#building-and-recc-chat

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mossy venture
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If its not separated it's fine

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What paste is it?

sick lichen
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Arctic MX-4

mossy venture
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Id imagine it's fine

sick lichen
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I'll do a test blob when I find it

green laurel
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Hello all, quick question I recently noticed that I have not had the top left thing I am pointing at plugged in for the past 2 years on my pc and it has worked without issues, should I plug it in now that I have noticed or not worry about it?

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mossy venture
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It's unnecessary

green laurel
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Oo just making sure because on the new pc I build i know i plugged it in lol

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One more thing I am unsure of, i am looking in this software and am wondering if this gpu2 can be disabled since I have a gpu and it seems like it's un necessary or am I wrong?

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mossy venture
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That's the igpu, there's nothing wrong with it being enabled

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Good for troubleshooting and some obscure tasks

green laurel
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Alright didn't know if it was helping or hurting or just drawing power

rain carbon
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wdym? everyone brings out the crow bar, hits the cpu a couple times until the igpu stops working and THEN install the dedicated gpu

dusky hearth
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This is true

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I removed the igpu from the 3700x

rain carbon
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Also idk why i can never get temps like that on idle 😭

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dusky hearth
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I idle at 60

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0 fan speed

rain carbon
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Ah so since my fan speed is at zero thats fine?

dusky hearth
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Yes

green laurel
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mine is at zero rpm as well

rain carbon
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Yours is built different

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😭

dusky hearth
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Idle temps depend on your fan curve

rain carbon
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I have a very quiet fan curve

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So fair

potent portal
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Ambient temps determine your idle temps more

green laurel
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not sure bud its saphire nitro plus. i dont know if that makes a diff, i heard they were pretty good at cooling

potent portal
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Especially at zero fan

dusky hearth
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Only when it's at thermal throttling with the fans running 100% does that mean either your heatsink isn't enough, or your paste is dry

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Or it's clogged with dust

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Or a fan is dead

rain carbon
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I have a powercolor red devil so i have a good quality heatsink

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But yeah with no fan i dont mind the temps since when the fans do kick on i dont think ive hit much higher than 70c at 100% uti lol

dusky hearth
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I set my fan curves to maintain my GPU at like 90

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Under load

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85 or 90 I forget

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Basically right before thermal throttling

green laurel
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i was actually thinking about turning zero RPM off and running fans constantly, i am not sure it that's a good idea considering it was built to run zero, again i am not sure though. i dont know enough about this stuff to speak on it

dusky hearth
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In other words, my GPU fans nearly never spin at over 50% speed

dusky hearth
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Saves power

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Your GPU won't care about keeping at 90c

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Let alone 60

rain carbon
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For longevities sake i dont want it to stay around 90c

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Even if 95 is considered safe to a degree

dusky hearth
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You're probably gonna upgrade before thermal damage from keeping a GPU constantly at 90 would destroy it tbh

green laurel
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i stay around 55C while gaming with Zero so i think i will do as you say and keep it on

potent portal
rain carbon
dusky hearth
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Oh yeah another factor is that I don't turn off my PC unless it's to restart, or to do maintenance

potent portal
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Also if they're frequently starting and stopping they die faster, but the firmware is good about avoiding that

dusky hearth
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So having fans spin as little as possible is more ideal to not have fans keep dying lmao

dusky hearth
potent portal
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At least GPU fans are cheap and easy to replace

dusky hearth
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(so it goes up and down in speed in a sinusoidal wave)

potent portal
dusky hearth
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I see

mellow meteor
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VK3TVK2?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08R5W27JS?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hTL4C8
which psu should i pick

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potent portal
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RMx shows out of stock on Amazon

mellow meteor
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oh it is

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hold on

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https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm750x-cp-9020199-na-750-w-80-plus-gold-certified/p/N82E16817139271?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASUBID=&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2F6NcG3C%2Fcorsair-rm750x-2021-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020199-na&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-YvTL980vKDRMPROiUbF6eg

potent portal
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Ok RM750x is the clear winner, it's a top tier power supply

mossy venture
potent portal
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And Corsair sells a cable that you can use to upgrade to the new 12VHPWR (12V-2x6) when you upgrade later

mellow meteor
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and idk much about pc parts

potent portal
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Who is this "someone" because it's pretty well established that 1> Gigabyte power supplies have a bad reputation after they violently exploded and 2> That's a B tier power supply

mellow meteor
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some guy in the buildapc discord

potent portal
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Did he say why that one over the other

mellow meteor
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nah he just said that he would change the psu

mossy venture
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Rmx is top tier

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Like id say top 10 psus on the market

potent portal
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I have the RM850x personally

mossy venture
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I had the 650

mellow meteor
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wait do i get the 2024 or 2021 one

mossy venture
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2024 will have new connector

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Old will need an adapter

potent portal
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They're usually more expensive because they really are high quality so they don't get recommended often, but they are top tier

mossy venture
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Psus are one of the only things corsair does right

mossy venture
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Any idea if amds new gen is supposed to be 8 pin or not?

mellow meteor
potent portal
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No clue, I have heard very little

potent portal
mossy venture
mellow meteor
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oh alright

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theres nothing else i need to add right

potent portal
mossy venture
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Superflowers the oem iirc?

mellow meteor
potent portal
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I think so

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They're garbage

mossy venture
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That said not many brands do

potent portal
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Some of their cases are decent like the 4000D airflow

mossy venture
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3000d and 2000d airflow have been $60/55 recently

mellow meteor
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their cases look pretty cool though

mossy venture
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Thats great value

potent portal
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But they use non airflow cases in their prebuilts often so the parts just choke on their own exhaust

mossy venture
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Otherwise mostly meh

mossy venture
mellow meteor
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😭

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okay but that aside i would definitely buy their cases if they were good

potent portal
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The airflow cases are good, mostly

mellow meteor
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yeah but theyre more expensive

potent portal
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Sounds like a standard corsair product to me, they have that brand tax

mellow meteor
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yeah i wish they were cheaper

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actually

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isnt a case optional

potent portal
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There's plenty of decent cheaper cases now, Montech has a few for example

mellow meteor
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you could technically have a caseless build

potent portal
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Technically yes you can

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In fact that's typically how I test builds before I put them in the case, just leave the motherboard in the box it came in

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Cardboard is non conductive

mellow meteor
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oh speaking of that

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do i need to buy one of those like

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grounding bracelets

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i think thats what theyre called

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like the thing that prevents static electricity from breaking your build or something

potent portal
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Nah, they're not necessary on modern parts

mellow meteor
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i still see people talking about it though

potent portal
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If you've never seen the static wand he uses, that thing HURTS and he zapped the parts directly and didn't hurt anything

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It would take a very specific set of rare circumstances to actually damage your PC with static

dusky hearth
potent portal
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They weren't super sensitive to it but they often didn't have good grounding

weary galleon
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I bought an antistatic wrist band/cord when I build my first PC around 2019-2020. After watching that video I've never used it since.

dusky hearth
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the cheaper ones might even just be fake

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good practice is still to just avoid ESD as much as possible

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dont to be unlucky enough to happen to touch something that will actually get damaged by esd

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but you dont really need a esd wrist strap for that

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just ground yourself on a metal object occasionally

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and dont wear clothing that builds up static like wool sweaters

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and dont shuffle around carpeted floors in shoes

potent portal
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I built my pc wearing socks on a carpet and it worked for 4 years before an update killed the cpu

jagged ember
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It was just that the static decided the update was the best time to strike

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It actually hid in there for 4 years

potent portal
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Sneaky little electrons

dusky hearth
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real

analog hearth
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Just apply lotion if you feel unsafe

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imagine I get banned for saying "use lotion" because Felix took it the NSFW way

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nah but it works though 😭

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It practically deletes the static from wherever you apply it on your body

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also just don't wear socks if you're standing on carpet

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Never had an issue using these methods

cyan ravine
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I deleted it

analog hearth
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💀

cyan ravine
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I'm in a good mood rn cos I basically repaired an unrepairable SSD

analog hearth
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I mean I doubt I would've even gotten kicked because of it but still lol

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wow that's impressive

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what was wrong with it and how did you fix it?

cyan ravine
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I/O errors "Fatal hardware error" "Device request failed"

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It was basically completely cooked

analog hearth
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so it was basically dead?

cyan ravine
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But me and my OCD

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We never gave up

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I kept spamming commands during the first 15-20 seconds it would detect, eventually I pulled off a format

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And it just, works now

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All issues gone

analog hearth
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lmaooo that's insane

analog hearth
cyan ravine
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I suspect it had some sort of bad power contact cos when I plugged it up to my AM5 system it slowed the pc down to a crawl, the same symptom that my 7950X3D had with this drive before it basically died

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So I am genuinely suspicious the drive is like, actually dangerous

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💀

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I'm going to test it a bit, see how it goes, but I got it out of an irrecoverable state

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Hopefully the power symptom is gone now too

jagged ember
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Slap it

cyan ravine
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I already did

analog hearth
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Yeah I wouldn't rely on it but at least you brought it back to life lol

cyan ravine
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Saved $80

analog hearth
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@cyan ravine put that lotion message back 💀

cyan ravine
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And a whole PC

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What message

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No idea what you're talking about

cyan ravine
sick lichen
potent portal
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HX1000 is a great power supply still as long as it's less than 10 years old. I wouldn't buy that motherboard unless you really, really need USB 4.0 though because that's all it offers over X670.

cyan ravine
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What's the pc being used for

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Not even usb 4

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My X670 has usb 4

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It's just an increase of minimum 4 on standard

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So the bar is raised despite both chipsets able to support a similar amount

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More importantly what is this pc being used for and what cpu is going in there

mossy venture
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I7-7900x because it has the same name as the r7 7900x

potent portal
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Not to be confused with the 7900 XT

cyan ravine
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Why confuse it when we can just put all 3

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Whips out Enthoo pro

rain carbon
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and if you confuse it with the RTX 2080 Ti quite frankly you shouldnt be touching computers to begin with

cyan ravine
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Don't worry that won't happen

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There's no 2080 CPU

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We're safe

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For now

mossy venture
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Liar

rain carbon
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the tension building

lean anchor
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What's a good RGB program that has access to SAMA products, particularly fans?

mossy venture
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Open rgb should be fine

rain carbon
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i could never get open rgb to work personally

lean anchor
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Yeah, doesn't pick up my fans or the hub

mossy venture
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There's another one fal likes

rain carbon
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not to mention the rgb is registered backwards on my board lmao

mossy venture
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Fusion rgb i think?

lean anchor
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Is it one you need to pay for like Signal?

mossy venture
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Idts

rain carbon
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ive been using signal rgb despite the fact it takes WAY too much ram

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its just convenient

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and i have a lot of ram to spare

rain carbon
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dont need to at least

lean anchor
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All I have access to is rainbow and up and down, I can't even access breathing lol

rain carbon
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weird

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cant you custom edit it?

lean anchor
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I'll reinstall it really quick

rain carbon
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im not at home rn and cant check the software myself

lean anchor
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LOL, it picks up the Phantek strip, but can't control the color

rain carbon
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lmao rip

lean anchor
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Can't detect the fans either

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Guess no breathing then -_-

dusky hearth
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disable rgb

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no more headache

rain carbon
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Fr

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But i need funi colours!

potent portal
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RGB is pain

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Even when it works it doesn't work

rain carbon
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Why is it so difficult 😭

analog hearth
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I blame bad software

tawny violet
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Like trying raw blue on my fans
CPU cooler looks outright purple in comparison to the case fans

potent portal
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Even the same model of fan can have that variance

tawny violet
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No I mean my case fans are matching up really well

potent portal
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And matching whites is impossible

tawny violet
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They have a TINY difference but not noticable if you aren't aware of it
But the cooler fan is atrocious

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Like the cooler fan just seems to randomly add red to any color I set up

dusky hearth
tawny violet
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See that would be really cool
If you could individually dial in colors on each device

rain carbon
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Rgb software doesnt like logic

tawny violet
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Ikr?

cursive wharf
shut rampart
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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TmWJ7P/thermalright-aqua-elite-v3-6617-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-240-white-v3

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YXFmP6/thermalright-aqua-elite-v3-6617-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-360-white-v3

triple or double? I think triple only a $3 bucks differance

Thermalright Aqua Elite V3 66.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Aqua Elite ...

Thermalright Aqua Elite V3 66.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Aqua Elite 240 White V3)

Thermalright Aqua Elite V3 66.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Aqua Elite ...

Thermalright Aqua Elite V3 66.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (Aqua Elite 360 White V3)

weary galleon
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if you have the space I don't think there's a downside to 360 over 240

potent portal
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Might as well get triple, it'll only be slightly louder from the extra fan but have more cooling capacity

frigid jackal
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friend with asrock b650m and amd gpu has msi afterburner and amd software showing 0% gpu usage

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any help 🥺

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Crazy it didn’t crop the pic

mossy venture
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Download drivers

frigid jackal
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real

frigid jackal
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meooow

mossy venture
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Is that after downloading drivers?

jagged ember
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Windows moment perhaps

frigid jackal
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restarted his pc, reinstalled his drivers

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then boom it's working now

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thanks

mossy venture
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Nice

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Yeah any time a gpu related software isn't working the answer is typically drivers

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At least from what I've experienced

weary galleon
potent portal
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While you are correct, that would only apply under load

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It would be near minimum speed at idle

tawny violet
cursive wharf
tawny violet
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I'm only using it while I'm still cursed with this mobo

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I'm probably gonna move over to openRGB once I build my new rig (ITX 9800X3D+7900XT, later a 4080s)

potent portal
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It's aSUS motherboard for sure

jagged ember
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sus

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I should try using openRGB to see if it can control the RGB for my motherboard and GPU

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just to turn it off

cyan ravine
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WDL >>>>>

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Having all of it work off one software

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The clear meta

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Windows OP

analog hearth
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There's not as much customization in WDL lol

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Half-bakes feature ngl

mighty lantern
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She has arrived

languid nimbus
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oooof

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want

crimson zinc
mighty lantern
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10000$ and it’s yours kekw

crimson zinc
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$2.14

rain carbon
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i have some pocket lint

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i know i know, its a very generous offer from me but i promise its authentic

little osprey
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Hey, I have this PC with these specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12 core processor
motherboard: gigabyte Aorus master X570S
RAM: 32gb g.skill trident Z 3200 MHz dual channel
Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 TI
CPU cooler: NZXT Kraken X63 280 mm rad.
Storage:
one 1 TB Samsung Evo 970 m.2
one 250 GB western digital m.2 SSD
one 2 TB Seagate barracuda HDD.

The RGB on the PC turns on, like the ram and such. I hear a clicking when pressing the power button, but the PC won't turn on

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The PSU, Motherboard, and the wiring have been swapped from the default parts it had

severe dove
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Do you guys think it's better to hold on buying 4070s and wait for new releases?
I currently use 1660 Ti with 7800x3d. I just basically upgraded everything and waited for black friday for gpu but no luck so far with the discounts in my area.

languid nimbus
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Well Black Friday isn’t till next week

potent portal
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New 70 class cards won't be out until Q2 next year at the earliest, about 6-8 months from now

boreal notch
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I'm looking at upgrading my CPU as it seems to be bottlenecking my GPU constantly. I have and I7-12700F and RX 6900 Xt. Is it worth swapping to Ryzen? If so what do I need to swap out. I know I'll need a new motherboard but is there anything else?

potent portal
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12700 shouldn't be bottlenecking a 6900 XT unless you're at 1080p. Are you using DDR4 or DDR5? That can be a limiting factor for the CPU.

boreal notch
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DDR4, I also have an ultrawide idk if that has an impact (5120x1440)

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I'm mainly going off of my metrics im always at 100% utilization on my CPU but never going above 90% on GPU

potent portal
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Yep it's the memory that's your limiter probably. Double 1440 ultrawide should be entirely GPU dependent.

weary galleon
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%age numbers don't always tell the whole story

boreal notch
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alright, so just upgrade ram?

potent portal
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You can start to close the gap by overclocking your current memory. What kit do you have?

boreal notch
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I dont know much about ram are there any changes I need to make to my rig to upgrade to DDR5?

potent portal
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Yes it would need a new motherboard too

boreal notch
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like just my specs?

potent portal
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The memory specs are a good start

boreal notch
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I dont remember the brand but its saying "32GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Memory"

rain carbon
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Yeah thats older gen stuff

weary galleon
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or maybe not running xmp? not sure if 2666 is a base speed or not

potent portal
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If you can, load up CPU-Z and show the memory and SPD tabs

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That's probably xmp off

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Those tabs will tell the story

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It will also tell us what the overclock potential is

weary galleon
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https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z for Windows® x86/x64 is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time measurement of each core's internal frequency, memor...
boreal notch
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hope I got the right program

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was it suppose to install "PC app store"?

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nvm I got it

boreal notch
potent portal
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Yeah it's 3200 c16 memory, you need to enable xmp in your BIOS

boreal notch
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alright I'll give it a try

potent portal
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I've never tried to overclock ChangXin memory before but based on the SPD data I would guess it wouldn't do well

boreal notch
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so I shouldn't do it?

potent portal
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XMP yes, overclocking past that no

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XMP may be called by another name, like DOCP or Memory Profile

boreal notch
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alright, but I should eventually upgrade the ram?

potent portal
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There's not much point tbh, it would still be slower than even cheap DDR5

boreal notch
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That’s what I mean like upgrade the motherboard and ram to DDR5?

potent portal
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You can make that decision after you see how xmp improved it

boreal notch
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I’m in bios and it has the option for “xmp profile” is that all I need to click?

potent portal
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Yes

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Profile 1

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Then F10 to save and exit

boreal notch
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Alright then should I just go back to CPU-Z or is there another way to test?

potent portal
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The memory tab will show the speed as 1600 if it applied correctly

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Next to DRAM frequency

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Then you can try your game again and watch the GPU load

boreal notch
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is that close enough?

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potent portal
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Yep

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Slight variance is expected

boreal notch
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I dont know what happened but my computer is dying. Everything is freezing and stuttering. the game is using 0% GPU and 15% CPU. I'm not sure what happened but my computer is basically unusable

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its improved it might've just been adjusting idk I'm trying to launch the game again

boreal notch
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its seems to be taking way longer to load things

potent portal
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If it still doesn't feel right then you should try a memory test next. OCCT from ocbase will run a quick 1 hour test that can catch obvious errors.

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It's entirely possible that the memory is just bad. I haven't heard any good things about those Chinese ICs

boreal notch
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these are my stats in the game that use to be at 100% CPU and 90% GPU. could this be because of the xmp? I'm also only getting 30 fps

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just tested another game, same problem

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I swapped off xmp and its still got the same problem so I don't know what I did

zenith cargo
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Can I install an ssd without the screw?

dusky hearth
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it will still work even if it's just floating there

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but a small bump on the computer and it'll fall out

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assuming you have it in a pc case

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well, that is only true if there's no heat spreader on the mobo that you can use to keep the m.2 down

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or wait, are you talking about a sata 2.5" ssd

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if you're talking about that, then yeah you dont need to screw it down

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if you'd like, you can use some double sided tape to keep it from banging around if you ever move the pc around, but it's not required for that

zenith cargo
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I’ll use some electrical tape

dusky hearth
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Well, new mobo

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If it's open box or used, then someone might have tossed it

zenith cargo
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mine was prebuilt

dusky hearth
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Ah

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Sometimes they leave a screw in the MOBO if they're nice, or have a box with the extra PSU cables and or screws or whatever

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Though I assume you might not have that anymore

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It is a very tiny screw after all

zenith cargo
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is this safe 💀

verbal elm
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Can someone help me I’m trying to see what I need to upgrade my pc I been having problems with my pc and I think it’s time for a upgrade

clear pasture
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whats a good motherboard to pair with the ryzen 7 9800x3d ?

stoic island
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What's your budget?

split cliff
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can someone build me a pc (on pcpsrtpicker) within $600-1000 (lower price the better, prefer $600-700) that’s good for ur usual gaming (fortnite, forza 5) 16gb ram 🩵

mossy venture
weary galleon
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12400F is $111 rn, could be an option to not be stuck on am4

mossy venture
mossy venture
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5700x3d vs 13/14600k as EOL

weary galleon
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oh didn't realize 14th gen was the end of it

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That 7600x bundle is pretty sweet. Got a friend making a new build so I suggested that to him

split cliff
mossy venture
split cliff
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ah ok

mossy venture
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If you want a cheaper gpu get the 7600 for $216

clear pasture
split cliff
analog hearth
stoic island
# clear pasture 250.

On the cheaper end, B650 Eagle AX for $140, and for the mid range, B650 Aorus Elite AX v2 for $175, and on the expensive end, X870 Pro RS Wifi for $210. All 3 have good enough VRMs for a 9800x3d, although you may have to flash the B650 boards with a usb stick, both of them have flashback (q-flash plus). What you get for the extra price on the B650 Aorus Elite ax is 3 more USB type A ports on rear IO, and 2.5gbps instead of 1gbps ethernet port. What you get for the extra price on the X870 Pro RS Wifi is 2 USB-C ports instead of 1 on the rear IO, while still having 10 type A ports, and the board not needing to be flashed, and wifi 7 instead of 6

clear pasture
stoic island
#

If you want IO and don't want to spend much money -> B650 Aorus Elite AX
If you want more potential m.2 slots for potentially 4 SSDs instead of 3 -> One of the other X670e or X870 boards, including x670e Tomahawk
If you want general plug and play -> X870 Pro RS Wifi
If you want cheap and works -> B650 Eagle AX

clear pasture
#

i see

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i wanna get the tomahawk line so im thinking MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK

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thats a plug and play right?

stoic island
clear pasture
stoic island
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If you like the look, or branding, it's fine as long as you understand you're paying extra just for that and not for the performance

clear pasture
#

ohhhh

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yeah im all for that performance

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whats a solid x870 board

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like for performance bc im gunna get a 4080 super

stoic island
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This is how little of a difference it would make between tomahawk wifi and pro rs wifi here

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0.1% difference, within run to run variation

clear pasture
#

so the best bang for my buck is the GIGABYTE X870 AORUS ELITE

stoic island
#

I wouldn't really call if bang for your buck when it's about $300 and within ~1% performance wise from the $210 Pro RS Wifi, but it is also a good board and has a good amount of IO along with 4 m.2 key m slots

clear pasture
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alr ill get the Pro RS Wifi,

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thanks

stoic island
#

You're welcome

rain carbon
#

personally i stay away from gigabyte considering some of their other products quality and tactics

mossy venture
#

Meh

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Personally, parts are parts

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As long as it's reviewed well/known to be good idc what brand it is for the most part

sand plover
stoic island
boreal cave
#

Yo can anyone help me decide between the 4080super and the 7900xtx , the 7900xtx is cheaper with more vram and better raw performance , but thr 4080 super (or 4070 ti super ) has better ray tracing , dlss and dlaa .

stoic island
analog hearth
#

The 4080 Super and 4070 Ti Super are two different GPUs

stoic island
sand plover
boreal cave
sand plover
boreal cave
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Gaming

sand plover
analog hearth
boreal cave
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I’m going with the 7600x3d

sand plover
boreal cave
analog hearth
sand plover
analog hearth
boreal cave
#

Same but I can’t use it anymore

jagged ember
#

If you see yourself using a lot of RT

boreal cave
#

I don’t

jagged ember
#

Nvidia

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Else, AMD

boreal cave
#

Like I play competitive shooters so ray tracing isn’t huge

jagged ember
#

RT is still a very gimmicky thing

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so yeah, 7900xtx then

crimson zinc
jagged ember
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there's FSR 3 that will only get better with time

boreal cave
analog hearth
crimson zinc
boreal cave
#

Also what do you guys think of the 7600x3d?

crimson zinc
boreal cave
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Pause

crimson zinc
#

If you can’t afford the. 7800x3d, it’s worth a buy

sand plover
crimson zinc
rain carbon
#

how much perf does the 7600X3D get over the X?

crimson zinc
analog hearth
#

I usually use this site but I’ve never known how accurate it is lol

potent portal
#

Does that say 1 benchmark

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Yeah that's only 1 benchmark

jagged ember
#

how is that only one benchmark

potent portal
#

It's only passmark

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That's how

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A synthetic benchmark that favors clock speeds

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https://youtu.be/Awz_CG2320E?si=Oc-1ZpcFKvpABenh&t=1304

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▶ Play video
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When Steve is smiling in the thumbnail it's good

jagged ember
#

Most efficient CPU ever

mossy venture
#

If only it weren't mc exclusive

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Id love $300 14900k perf in games

jagged ember
#

much less watts per frame as well

dusky hearth
shut rampart
dusky hearth
#

Fan controllers are pretty much never included with a pack of fans

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Sometimes they may be nice and include y spitters but it's also rare

shut rampart
dusky hearth
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Actually

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You don't even need a fan hub since that daisy chains with the proprietary connectors

shut rampart
#

true

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idk if I want infinity mirror or daisy chain

zenith cargo
#

is it possible to only clone windows 11 to a new ssd, and keep all data on that old ssd or will it wipe?

weary galleon
#

I reccomend Macruim Reflect

zenith cargo
#

are the first two partitions related to windows OS?

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zenith cargo
weary galleon
#

im not sure tbh. I'd probably just install wndows on the new drive and move over whatever you need

potent portal
sand plover
#

Does this fit in the h9 flow

IMG_4396.jpg
sand plover
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And is the h9 flow elite or normal better for airflow

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Oh I just looked and the elite is more for aesthetics but I’m not sure if it will affect my parts in a negative way

analog hearth
sand plover
#

In super happy since I’m getting the case I actually want now

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I think it’s the h9 flow elite

analog hearth
#

Flow, or Elite? Two different cases

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Neither of which are bad if you asked me. At least it's not the H510 that every new builder would spam

sand plover
#

I’m not stupid

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After seeing how it leaves the top I’m getting it since before I thought it wouldn’t work

IMG_4400.jpg
analog hearth
#

That 4000D in #tech-deals is also an option unless you're absolutely set on dual-chamber cases

sand plover
analog hearth
#

So, dual-chamber

wraith trail
#

anyone got a pc build for sub 800. my brother gonna give me his 4070

mossy venture
#

And do you have a microcenter nearby?

wraith trail
#

yes in the to US sadly no microcenters

mossy venture
#

Black or white, and rgb or nah

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And wifi or ethernet

wraith trail
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Perfer black and ethernet

mossy venture
#

Dope, few min

wraith trail
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thankyou

mossy venture
#

The mobo is one of the low end am5 ones, but at $303 for cpu mobo ram and ssd it's unbeatable value

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Ima do a list w/o the bundle so you can compare

wraith trail
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ok

mossy venture
boreal cave
#

Should I get the 7900xtx or 7900xt or 7900gre for 4k competitive shooters ?

mossy venture
boreal cave
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Around 2300-2000

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I think 7900xtx but idk if the extra money is worth it compared to the xt

mossy venture
rain carbon
#

Although the gre pulls more than plenty for me

noble phoenix
#

hey, if anyone is still in the market for the 9800X3D combo, we just restocked, 800 of them!

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discord heard it first haha

weary galleon
rain carbon
#

If you care about value then the xt, xtx value isnt much worse tho

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Gre has amazing value but the deals for it suck rn

weary galleon
rain carbon
#

Which is why i said rn

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Typically its better value on any regular day lol

weary galleon
#

Xt is $620
Xtx $830
34% more money and I'm pretty sure the perf difference is more like 15, maybe 20%

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Oh I think the $620 one is oos

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So $640

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Still about 30% more for the xtx

rain carbon
#

Id only recommend it for story games and more setting based experiences

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For shooters youd be more than fine with cards from gens ago

shut rampart
mossy venture
#

isn't there an antec case w fans at 110-130 and same aesthetic?

shut rampart
#

its 160 I think

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but I read that the fans are terrible

weary galleon
#

Also if you already have a 1440p high refresh, why buy a second?

shut rampart
#

dang it yesterday the c8 was in stock for 119 and now they dont have it anymore

weary galleon
# shut rampart mini led

If you could squeeze another $210 you could go OLED. But $190 for mini led seems pretty good too

shut rampart
#

210 bucks or $20 more?

weary galleon
#

190+210=400 for OLED currently on sale

shut rampart
#

sure I will prob use my Acer Nitro XV1 when I build it, and then will prob have enough money to buy the oled

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what is it?

weary galleon
#

The $400 is a sale though and might not stick around, just a heads up

shut rampart
#

Hopefully it can stay for about 7 days

rain carbon
#

It's a very good sale

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Just waiting on 300 dollar 1440p oleds fr

tawny violet
#

They will be coming

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I'd say PROBABLY in early to mid 25

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When the next gen OLED panels release current gen slides down to potentially midrange

Which makes early OLEDs available at the entry level

shut rampart
#

Since c8 isn’t in stock will c5 fit?

severe dove
#

Any good cheap m.2s? I have one that is perfect 1TB but need more storage and I'd like it to be fast storage but within a good price range. Thanks in advance.

mossy venture
boreal cave
severe dove
boreal cave
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Idk fun

severe dove
#

What I know is that in 4k the cpu matter more less than in 1080p. So make sure to get a good gpu for whatever game you're aiming to play competitively in. and watch benchmarks for it with the cpu you choose i.e 7600x3d

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I personally wouldn't go anything over 7600x3d for 4k. Wait for more knowledgeable people responses to make sure.

boreal cave
#

I did it seems like a 10-40 fps difference

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Depending

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But for cod it seems around 20

severe dove
#

If you reach your monitor hz. It doesn't matter how high you get above that imo.

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So if that gets you enough frames for your hz. Go for it and save money for something else.

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I would go with dual monitor setup if I were you, 4k and 2k since not all games are runnable at high refresh rate on 4k display. Personal preference.

potent portal
finite drum
#

I am looking to buy a new processor and motherboard for Black Friday this year, what are the best deals. I would like to spend not spend much more than $500

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Does anybody have any recommendations?

mossy venture
#

At 4k you will be very gpu bound

mossy venture
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If you've got a microcenter the 7600x3d bundle

weary galleon
#

1440p OLED is also on sale rn and oled response times are lower than VA/IPS panels

boreal cave
#

I still don’t know if I should get the 7900xtx or if the 7900xt is good enough for me cus I’m using the 7600x3d from micro

rain carbon
#

7900xt is still a very high tier card lol

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Sure the xtx gets a good crack more perf, but its hard to be disappointed at this range

weary galleon
rain carbon
#

Yup

boreal cave
#

For like 4k on black ops 6 multiplayer I know I gets around 90fps and that’s good enough right ?

tawny violet
#

You'd really want to do 1440p for BO6 multi

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You would get an advantage from the higher refresh rate

mossy venture
#

^^

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The 4090 struggles to push over 100 fps at max settings in multiple titles

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I think a few it had issues doing 60 lmao

cyan ravine
#

Yep

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If you're looking for competitive good numbers, you don't do 4K

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Also XTX > 4090 for COD

boreal cave
#

Nah I don’t need competive the xtx can push 150fps in 4k

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Which is still good

cyan ravine
#

4K still not worth it though unless you use a huge as hell TV

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Lol

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Ppi is so dense at 1440p on a normal monitor that you need extremely good eyes to see the difference

zenith cargo
#

um

cyan ravine
#

Rip

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Bootloader died

zenith cargo
#

At

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bro 💀💀

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fix ⁉️⁉️⁉️

#

@cyan ravine i

obsidian wigeon
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Reinstall windows

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There's no other fixes

cyan ravine
#

Sorry went to bed

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You could try macrium reflect to create a recovery drive

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There's tutorials on youtube for that

#

It can fix the bootloader potentially

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But if that fails then yeah, it's a complete reinstall or an in-place reinstall/repair

timber canopy
#

can anyone help me find a good prebuild on newegg? I have a budget of $1500 and I'm not necessarily looking at all to build my own pc for right now or in the near future
the only thing I'm really looking forward to doing on it is to play some intensive games like the new stalker or tarkov or black ops 6

I heard yeyian or skytech are good but im not sure.

dusky hearth
#

Any particular reason you can't build?
For new builders, it'll take around 2-3 hours usually, and it's really just a game of "does this fit in this" and if the answer is yes without excessive force, and it looks like it fits there, then it's probably the right place

crimson zinc
#

@timber canopy

tawny violet
#

At least not ones that are worth getting

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But you can very much build one that you also know how to maintain

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Like the performance difference is massive for a prebuilt vs a custom PC

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The upcharges can get really, really big even with builders that are good

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We can put together a list for you that's gonna trounce the price to perf
Or watch this year's Secret Shopper from LTT and order from the winner
But even then I'd not recommend prebuilt 99% of the time

shut rampart
#

Will a 750w work with an 9800x3d & 7900xt

tawny violet
#

Should be just fine

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Make sure it's a good 750w tho @shut rampart

shut rampart
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how do i make sure its good lol

tawny violet
#

What is it?

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I can tell you if it's something I know about

shut rampart
#

Asus ROG Strix 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

tawny violet
#

That's an A-tier
It's gonna be fine

shut rampart
#

oki just clicked some pc part list for high end pc and it was 850w and I got scared

tawny violet
#

That's the recommendation based on something like an i9 or R9 processor

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Manufacturers always overestimate power needs to cover their butts

mossy venture
#

7900xt should be fine on a decent 650w with a low power cpu like the 7800x3d

tawny violet
#

It's a 9800X3D

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That goes to like 125w

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I'd be more comfortable with a 750
But ye it's a good 750 so it's definitely good

crimson zinc
#

Would a GTX Titan X for $95 be a solid choice for a cheap build?

weary galleon
crimson zinc
weary galleon
#

I mean

crimson zinc
#

That just helps with textures, so it’s probably not that great.

#

Maxwell 2.0 is aging at this point

weary galleon
#

what games are you planning on playing on a sub-$100 gpu that need more than 8gb vram?

#

^this is sort of rhetorical

crimson zinc
#

That’s true.

How’s the 1070ti against the 1070?

#

Worth an extra couple bucks?

weary galleon
#

off the top of my head i want to say yes

crimson zinc
#

Seems like a maybe 5%~ uplift.

weary galleon
#

More than that I think

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probably more like 10%

timber canopy
# tawny violet I don't think you can get a prebuilt for 1500 USD that's going to run Stalker 2 ...

Ultimately, besides some health problems that could be a risk, I could definitely build one myself. The thing it comes down to is that although my budget is $1500, it's not something I can drop on a one-time purchase. A monthly plan with one big bill is something I can easily manage and definintely pay off within a year when I'm given an estimate of how much I'm going to pay each month for the $1500.

I could definitely do something like $2000 but yeah, the main thing it comes down to is the fact that I'm able to pay monthly

mossy venture
#

I forget, does ebay offer monthly payments?

little osprey
#

I’m planning on buying a few things to help me get started on buying for components for a pc, I was just wondering if I get a 4070 ti super what cpu should I get with these Black Friday deals?

mossy venture
little osprey
#

Why is that?

mossy venture
#

It's just poor value

#

It's never gone below 700, and even at that price it's $80 more than the 7900xt is rn, for the same perf and less vram

finite drum
#

I am getting a amd am5 processor, what motherboard should I get?

mossy venture
#

The 4070 super and 4080 super were much better priced compared to the 7900 gre and 7900xtx than the ti super to the 7900xt

mossy venture
#

Ascending in price, any could handle any am5 cpu fine

#

B650m hdv linked in there

#

Others you can find w Google I'm sure

little osprey
#

So what gpu should I get that’s better or is similar to the 4070 ti super

mossy venture
#

7900xt imo

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Best value gpu atm, except maybe the 7800xt

finite drum
mossy venture
#

We have also seen 4080 down to 800ish

mossy venture
#

It holds the world record oc with a 7950x

little osprey
#

Okay I’ll look into it, I still got a bit of saving to do but I really want to get some things that are on a huge sale right now like the cpus and monitors

mossy venture
little osprey
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$2k

mossy venture
#

You can easily build a full pc with a great monitor for that

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I can make a general idea rq

shut rampart
#

hmmm 7900xtx for 936.48 with tax or 7900xt for 674.68 with tax

mossy venture
little osprey
#

Well I don’t want to blow all the money I got right now because I still got to get things like a desk, keyboard and mouse, chair, all that good stuff

mossy venture
mossy venture
shut rampart
mossy venture
shut rampart
#

sad u took my c8 case SadgeCry now I have to buy c8 with fans

mossy venture
#

Hehehhe

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Was my plan all along

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I'm going to return it right after you order yours

shut rampart
#

meanie

mossy venture
#

:D

little osprey
# mossy venture Check that list out rq

I dont know, I’ve just never dealt with amd or ryzen, I’ve always played on intel and Nvidia, and I’m just really trying to future proof everything so I dont have to upgrade anything for a while

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On a laptop that is

mossy venture
#

Cpu i 100% would suggest not caring about brand. Gpu i can understand

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Cpu doesn't affect user experience whatsoever, and am5 allows upgradability

#

You could do a 13600kf, but you'll need a new mobo when it comes time to swap cpu

#

Ill grab some gpu options, are you open to open box/refurbs?

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With warranty

little osprey
#

I stay away from open box and refurbished items, always had terrible experiences with that kind of stuff

#

Got a refurbished item one time and both times still had peoples stuff logged into it

mossy venture
#

And it does have 2yr warranty directly through zotac, but i understand

#

New 4070 ti super link in there

little osprey
#

Okay bet, I seen an i7-14700k on Newegg in the deals for Black Friday and it had a free 1tb ssd with it? Price was $360 is that a good deal?

mossy venture
#

Not really, unless you're doing more than just gaming and typical pc use

finite drum
mossy venture
mossy venture
#

But yes the asrock b650m bdv is perfectly fine

finite drum
#

I was wrong about the deal, it was an asus prime b650-plus wifi

mossy venture
#

What deal

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Microcenter?

finite drum
mossy venture
#

This is $340 now, id do that instead

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Neither mobo is good but this one's a lil bit better if I remember right

finite drum
#

if it isnt good, then I wont do the deal

mossy venture
#

So what a bad mobo means

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Not a ton of ports, and the cpus vrms, or power delivery isn't great, or isn't cooled very well

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With a 7600/x, you dont need great vrms since it's not a high power cpu

#

If you plan to upgrade, 9800x3d pulls around 120w peak, which that mobo will be at its limit but could handle it

finite drum
#

I am fine with paying more for a better motherboard, I am just not sure which one to get

mossy venture
#

A better mobo could easily handle over 120w, like the HDV, pro rs, eagle ax or riptide

#

What's your budget for the whole build, or the parts you're replacing

finite drum
#

I'm planning on getting a new ssd, processor, motherboard, and ram for about $400-700

mossy venture
#

1-2tb?

finite drum
#

I think I have already decided on the samsung 990 pro 2TB and the AMD Ryzen 5 7600x

mossy venture
#

990 pro i wouldnt bother with

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Pcie 5.0 is useless for anyone considering a 6 core cpu, and it's 5.0 x2 instead of x4

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Which means it's limited to gen 4 speeds with gen 5 advertising slapped onto it

finite drum
#

it says it is gen4

mossy venture
#

For gaming, you don't need a high end ssd. The m482 at $90 will perform identically to the 990

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Oh then it's the 990 evo that's gen 5

finite drum
mossy venture
#

Still, same difference. There's also multiple cheaper ssds with the same specs like m480 pro, 530r, s70, gm7000 and some others when they go on sale

#

Yeah $160 is too much for a 2tb drive

#

Thats the same tier as the 990 pro

little osprey
finite drum
#

What motherboard should I get with my current setup though?

little osprey
#

Also what does this likewise protection plan on Newegg cover? Does it cover accidental and surge?

edgy holly
#

How far do you live from a micro center?

#

Spent around 440 for a b650m ax Aorus board, 7600x, and 32gb g.skill ddr5 ram. CPU was $98 dollars with the bundle, paid extra for a different motherboard than what was included in the deal

timber canopy
mossy venture
#

The 14700k performs 3-5% better in games. It's nowhere near worth the extra cost and heat

mossy venture
mossy venture
#

Respectfully, figure it out

mossy venture
finite drum
young cliff
analog hearth
#

bruh

dusky hearth
#

dear mother of god that desktop and taskbar is gonna give me a stroke

dusky hearth
young cliff
dusky hearth
#

it certainly could be better

#

change the aio to an arctic liquid freezer or smth like that

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you dont need the extra thermal paste, the cooler will include some

#

someone here could probably make you a much better value build while still keeping some aesthetics

young cliff
#

ok im just going for pure performance i dont really care how it look

mossy venture
#

oh 100% can do cheaper

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and if you want 4090 performance, imo id buy a cheaper gpu and wait for 5080/5090

dusky hearth
#

corsair is one of the brands that you should avoid if you want value lmao

mossy venture
dusky hearth
#

when is the 5090 releasing anyways

mossy venture
#

ive been told early next year

dusky hearth
#

probably 2-3 months then

young cliff
#

im worried that tarrifs will make everything hella expensive

mossy venture
#

tbf 4090 is alr scalped

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it should be 1600

dusky hearth
#

5090 already was leaked to have a msrp of 2k anyways
fairly likely to be that

#

and possibly could be scalped for even higher

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💀

mossy venture
#

if 5080 doesn't beat the 4090 at cheaper i cry

dusky hearth
#

remember when the top end gpu was only $800 ong

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only 4 generations ago

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💀

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though tbf

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people back then were sometimes spending like 2k on their gpus as well since sli still existed

mossy venture
#

can we just hit the reset button on the whole world

dusky hearth
#

real

weary galleon
dusky hearth
#

ah true

#

technically it wasnt under the gtx branding though was it

weary galleon
#

Though even accounting for inflation I think gpus have gotten more expensive

weary galleon
dusky hearth
#

hmmm

#

i remember the 20 series titan as titan rtx rather than rtx titan

#

it could just be me not remembering correctly though

weary galleon
weary galleon
dusky hearth
#

they randomly removed gtx from it

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lmao

#

literally got into pcs the year they removed gtx from it 😭

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well, not got into pcs, i got into pc building the year they removed gtx from it

#

i've been pcmasterrace all my life but never really looked into pc building until 2016

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IDE cables scared me

rain carbon
#

i didnt have the choice (nor my parents had the money lol) for me to grow up with computers

dusky hearth
#

i had a very high end system frfr

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pentium 4 with not 1 but 2gb of ram

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4 whole 512mb sticks of ddr2

rain carbon
#

holy crap TWO gigs of ram???

#

you were spoiled

#

ong

dusky hearth
#

frfr

mossy venture
#

my first pc was a gt 1030 i5-3470

dusky hearth
#

(that pc was kinda old at the time i got it lmao)

mossy venture
#

wait do laptops count

rain carbon
#

my first pc was a 7900 gre 7600x

dusky hearth
#

laptops count

rain carbon
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wait a second...

mossy venture
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bc if they do i had an i3-4030u laptop

dusky hearth
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my first laptop was in 2014

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had the cursed intel atom cpu

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technically it wasnt classified as a laptop, but a netbook

mossy venture
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mine was a hannukah gift from my grandma bc it was too difficult for her to learfn to use it

rain carbon
# dusky hearth laptops count

oh shoot then my first was a pink aa HP laptop that got stolen a month after i got it when our house got broken into

dusky hearth
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i took it apart and there's not even a heatsink on that cpu

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it's literally a fan blowing on a thin sheet of like alu that is thermal pasted to the cpu die

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that was apparently enough to cool it

rain carbon
dusky hearth
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mine was a gift for passing level 4 piano or whatever

rain carbon
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shouldve passed level 5

dusky hearth
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i passed level 8 and quit

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lmfao

rain carbon
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lol

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i wish i learned the piano when i was younger

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instead i was insane and learned the french horn

dusky hearth
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pretty hard to learn that

rain carbon
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i loved it especially because i was left handed

dusky hearth
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piano isnt as hard since you dont have to plrrp into the mouthpiece at a certain frequency to get the right note lmfao

rain carbon
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genuine nightmare fuel LMAO

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i enjoyed it tho

dusky hearth
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💀

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once you become a decent musician for any one instrument, you should be fairly easily be able to fafo till you figure out how to play another instrument at a beginner level at least lmao

rain carbon
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french horn and trombone both have that "i want to fall into a deep slumber" affect where all the oxygen in your lungs evaporate

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trumpet players have it easy fr fr

dusky hearth
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💀

rain carbon
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plus i had to sell my horn

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and they pricey ASF

dusky hearth
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i know how to play twinkle twinkle little star on a cello even though i've never learned any bow instruments

i dont play it well

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but it sounds like twinkle twinkle little star

rain carbon
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i can play hot cross buns

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im so talented

dusky hearth
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real

rain carbon
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not on cello, piano

dusky hearth
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lmao

rain carbon
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id love to play the cello tbh

dusky hearth
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you're practically a pianist already

rain carbon
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practicing flight of the bumblebees tomorrrow ong

dusky hearth
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ong

rain carbon
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i do own a keyboard, it just sits in my closet

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maybe i should

dusky hearth
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but first you need to warm up with all 240 hanon exercises

rain carbon
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my mom is a nanny for rich people who cant bother to take care of their kids and they just let us take their nice friggen keyboard because their kids didnt like it anymore

rain carbon
dusky hearth
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damn i cant find it but i saw a kinda hilarious skit that someone did that was like "that one friend that has to warm up with all of hanon every time before playing"

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idek if it's even actually hilarious or what, since i saw it like 3 years ago at this point

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💀

rain carbon
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sounds like a skit daniel thrasher would write

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also damn you can say damn

balmy lichen
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Hi guys, what changed since May in gaming laptops/PC building?

rain carbon
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ryzen 9000 series launched

balmy lichen
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any 9800X3D laptops to expect soon?

mossy venture
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i dont think x3d has been in laptops yet

balmy lichen
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ok, is it impossible?

rain carbon
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probably

dusky hearth
plucky timber
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impossible? no

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practical? also no

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If they ever make a 9800X3D on mobile It'd probably be a 9800HX or something

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with significantly lower power requirements

cyan ravine
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They've made 3D chips in laptops already

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See: 7945HX3D

plucky timber
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they have? 👀

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damn

rain carbon
plucky timber
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Is it comparable to desktop X3D?

cyan ravine
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Quite literally the desktop part bga soldered to a laptop board

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I mean

plucky timber
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literally?

cyan ravine
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As far as the power allows yes

plucky timber
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damn

cyan ravine
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If you were jank with it you could probably run it untapped with exotic cooling

plucky timber
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really shows how efficient zen 4 is eh?

rain carbon
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I mean x3d chips are the exact same size

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Don't see how they wouldn't allow

plucky timber
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I mean

cyan ravine
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Likely comparable to 7950X3D eco mode

plucky timber
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the cpu themselves would almost always work in a laptop

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any cpu would

cyan ravine
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Mhm

plucky timber
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but then you have to take in account cooling and power

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that's the real limitation

cyan ravine
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13900HX is literally a laptop soldered 13900K

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Not really anything special here

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My 7820HK was a 7700K soldered to a laptop

plucky timber
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It's amazing how far laptops have come since Turing gpus came onto mobile

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laptops can be comparable to desktops now at a similar price point

balmy lichen
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what's better for $: this

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or this?

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if playing stalker on high fullscreen is the goal

analog hearth
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Bruh shorten those links I’m not reading all that

balmy lichen
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how

dusky hearth
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remove like 90% of the link

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almost all of that link is just tracking information

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you just need the text right before the question mark

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so you can actually trim the link even more

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lmao

cyan ravine
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https://www.ebay.ca/itm/135391986072
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/305718430632
Like this^

eBay
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balmy lichen
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thank you

cyan ravine
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I would set your sights lower

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Game runs like dogwater

balmy lichen
cyan ravine
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Not worth buying a laptop to do that

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That's a 4K+ laptop

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You could build a desktop that could do that for a third of the price

balmy lichen
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I travel often

cyan ravine
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Again, you could build a desktop that could do that for a third of the price

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ITX box

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Or a tower you stream from at home to a normal laptop

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Paying $20 extra for an additional carryon if you needed that btw, you'd take about 100 trips before that'd ever make the money back

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Which

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If you pack smart, won't be necessary

balmy lichen
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alright, thank you

cyan ravine
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Ez

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Faster than any laptop

mossy venture
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Could do lian li a3 for an matx option not much bigger

cyan ravine
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That's huge for a suitcase

mossy venture
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True

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Didn't look up to see that lol

cyan ravine
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Now getting better performance overall for less

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Not even talking used parts here

shut rampart
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will a micro atx mobo look weird in a full towner case

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feel like there going to big gap from the case fan to gpu

dusky hearth
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yes

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also full towers are somewhat rare

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most desktops you see are mid towers

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matx already looks pretty tiny in a mid tower

shut rampart
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sooo can I get a white mobo lol

cyan ravine
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Aw yeah we're faster in canadian now

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Faster eh

shut rampart
cyan ravine
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Nyoom eh

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Don't think I can do better than that unless I pull used parts

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Though if I did

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I could probably get it down to like, 1400-ish

balmy lichen
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thank you, insightful

cyan ravine
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Np

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I'll be fair in saying I didn't look at the article at first so wasn't aware the laptop is used, but yeah, I still can find better value in avoiding that route

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And there's a future prospect to an itx box as well

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They're less fragile than a laptop

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And they're upgradeable

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Unlike the laptop which is a one and done routine

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SF1000L should let you run most of any combination as well so it's not slacking as a build in general

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You pack them with a mouse, mini keyboard and a hdmi cable in tow

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You roll up to a hotel and just plug it into the tv

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Or take a portable monitor

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Other thing you can do is if you already have a good laptop with thunderbolt and a good cpu, you can look into egpu for a halfway house solution

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One of the only situations it makes sense is tons of travel

balmy lichen
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Have you tried a projector instead of the monitor?

cyan ravine
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Projector works yeah

shut rampart
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hmm im just going to return the micro mobo and buy the full size one

cyan ravine
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I just forgot they existed

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I been thinking of one lately though lol