building-and-recc-chat

[upper ore]

And it shows that its off

[jagged ember]

Nvidia control panel maybe

[potent portal]

Guess it's a coincidence then, unless the driver is set to override it

[jagged ember]

Application max frame rate or that

[upper ore]

G-sync on the nvidia control panel is on

[potent portal]

That's different on a fundamental level

[upper ore]

Ik i was just saying that was the only thing on lol

Well whatever as long as it doesnt lag

[jagged ember]

Gsync good tho

[upper ore]

Wait a minute

[jagged ember]

Which is off in game

[potent portal]

It really is just a weird coincidence then

[jagged ember]

Might be yeah

[potent portal]

165 fps is good on ultra 1440p at any rate

[jagged ember]

800fps when

1000fps 480p

[upper ore]

Well i just ran it again after setting everthying at ultra. I guess this game is alittle old to me running a benchmark and expecting it to make my pc struggle

[potent portal]

If you want a more accurate measure of gaming related performance you can grab the 3Dmark Time Spy demo off of steam and it'll tell you if it's performing as expected

[upper ore]

Im pretty tight on money rn how much does it cost?

[potent portal]

It's free

For the demo

https://store.steampowered.com/app/223850/3DMark/

Steam

3DMark

PC gaming is a quest for performance, a never-ending cycle of upgrading, overclocking, and tweaking your system for faster frame rates, higher resolutions, and better quality visual effects.3DMark is essential equipment for this quest. For more than 20 years, 3DMark has been the first choice for benchmarking, testing, and comparing PC performanc...

Price

$34.99

Recommendations

14102

▶ Play video

[upper ore]

Alright i found it! Yeah i dont think ill buy the full thing anytime soon

Is there anything that i should do before running the test

[potent portal]

It goes on sale for 5 bucks at least once a year

No changes required, it'll scan your system specs and monitor everything automatically during the test

[upper ore]

Oh? Normally what time would say?

[potent portal]

It varies. Sometimes it's May, or June, or December

It was $8 in May this year

[upper ore]

Do i run Steel Nomad?

[potent portal]

Time Spy should be the one included with the demo

Regular, not extreme

[upper ore]

It wasnt sadly

[potent portal]

Guess they changed it with the new benchmarks then

Yeah run steel nomad

It'll still give you stats at the end

[upper ore]

Well uh

Hows this?

[potent portal]

Very average

Exactly as expected

[upper ore]

Ik i dont have all the newest parts but its average?

Is it good avg or meh avg? lol

[potent portal]

Yes. The average score for your hardware is 4867, you scored 4803.

Good average. To get higher you need to overclock.

[upper ore]

Oh yeah im not comfortable with doing that anymore. I would defiantly need brush up on some stuff before that. But first i need to figure out why i cant play modded Mc, LoL, or Ark without crashing. Its been driving me crazy

[plucky timber]

those capacitors are no joke

even when unpowered they still hold a lot of charge

[upper ore]

Nvm time spy is here i just didnt go to benchmarks. I just saw Steel Nomad on the home page

[potent portal]

Here's mine running at stock settings for comparison. Very close in score as expected for 2 very similar GPUs.

[potent portal]

Average for time spy too. That includes a CPU test which is why I default to it.

[upper ore]

This makes me feel good atleast

[upper ore]

How long do i own the demo?

[potent portal]

Lifetime

*as restricted by the standard steam agreement

[plucky timber]

It's a demo

[upper ore]

My cpu got pretty toasty there lol

Well thats comes with the kind of cpu i have if i remember right

[potent portal]

It's a 5800X3D, that's expected

It's the single hottest chip on AM4

[upper ore]

Damn right i remember that when getting it and running it for the first time. Thing gets stupid hot! lol

Should i run any others like fire strike or whatever?

[potent portal]

Luckily it's only when every core is slammed 100% that it gets that hot, gaming is fine mostly

Nah fire strike is getting pretty old

You could if you wanted though

[upper ore]

Which test was the one that would crash some Pc's back a few years ago?

[potent portal]

Oh are you talking about the Intel crashing issues?

That was a whole rabbit hole that just recently we can call "resolved"

[upper ore]

Probably i just remember seeing videos on it

[potent portal]

Or maybe furmark, which was melting GPUs

There's also resolved issues of crashing due to memory errors on all platforms, turns out early batches of DDR5 weren't great

[upper ore]

I think it was 3Dmark when they looked in the mirror on time spy or something. And then something with pirates and an island 🤔

[upper ore]

Ran it because why not

[jagged ember]

Intel was just because their CPUs were built different and they shoved too much voltage into them

[manic cloak]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/652921/glorious-model-d-pro-edition-wireless-gaming-mouse-(pink)

Do I get the hot pink mouse..

[manic cloak]

nvm it's absolute 💩

[muted shore]

Built for friend

[analog hearth]

Yo clean. Put that in #build-pics

[muted shore]

Got much better, thanks to case

[sour sage]

it still happens without it plugged

but funny story

my computer died

same day i sent that message

completely died

it doesn't even show the indicator led when i plug in the power cable

no response at all

i think its a short circuit

is that fixable

or is it over forme

and

is it possible that my ssd is safe

bro my data is of atmost importance

[sour sage]

i sent it to a technician who spent like almost a whole week waiting for an ic ( does he mean an integrated circuit? , what integrated circuit ? , i still don't know what he did ) but at the end said he couldn't do nothing

anythoughts

[weary galleon]

Yes ic is integrated circuit

And I believe someone else had suggested a potential short last time we talked so that's def possible

[weary galleon]

Pretty good chance the SSD is ok I'd say

[sour sage]

yea i've read that

do you think i can revive it

or no more gaming

😭

untill i get a job that is

[weary galleon]

I honestly don't know much about PC repairs

[sour sage]

i always felt like there something that got inside or that there is something lose cuz the issue was always related to movement

like moving the laptop around'

or hold parts down

but there is nothing wrong from the outside

and i was too afraid to delve too deep inside and remove the heat sink

and i don't have thermal paste around

and at this point since am not getting anything from the laptop am not sure if that will even fix it at all

i heard that if i remove the heatsink i should probably repaste it , but i dont have thermal paste around rn , will it be find to just put the heat think back on if i end up removing it , just to test if it will work?

[mossy venture]

Once the heatsink is off, you need new paste

Once the seal breaks between the cpu and heatsink, it won't cool properly

[weary galleon]

if it's not booting at all the issue probably aint the heatsink

[mossy venture]

^^

[jagged ember]

Heatrise

[sour sage]

i ment that i need to remove the heat sink to access deeper parts of the laptop

to see what the issue is

because for me to see the other side of the mother board it will require removing the heatsink

then try to boot , if it just boots up , then ill turn it off and buy some thermal paste

[sour sage]

i toke it to a technician

he said the mother board is dead

its joeover?

[rain carbon]

resuscitate it

bring out the controlled shock

[manic cloak]

Any good?

[potent portal]

The default answer for a Razer product is "no"

[jagged ember]

Iirc its fine? Just expensive

36 still feels kinda expensive

Its a pretty typical webcam quality webcam from memory

Could get a logi one or just use your old phone

[manic cloak]

Hmm alr

Just saw it so

[crimson zinc]

The only Razer product to say yes to is the death adder essential

[dusky hearth]

36 bucks

hmmm

honestly

for 36 bucks? that's not bad

not worth at msrp

but 36? honestly a fine webcam for 36 bucks

[frail valve]

Alright I dug up we of my first gaming PC parts. I got these when i was 14 and didn't know anything about PC building other than "parts cost money". An athlon X4 845, 16gb ram (that I got later honestly don't know when) and some random GPU I shoved on it because none of these have an igpu. The motherboard is the only difference and what I'll be throwing awayz but which do i keep? One is a asrock A58 board. Its some weird form factor called mini dtx, basically just mini itx with a little more board at the bottom to accommodate one more pcie slot. Its chipset is weak, stupid, and wasn't even wanted at release and only has 2 ram slots... but it is basically mini itx which allows it to be in such a small case. The other board is a gigabyte A88X micro atx board. Much better chipset, 4 ram slots, but its micro atx which kinda kills any potential for a small build (well, unless I pay a chunk of change for a new case and an sff PSU. For context I got this case for $35 on sale).
Do I keep the smaller build for having a sff PC, or the larger one for having an actually halfway decent motherboard? Or option 3, do I scrap both because fm2+ sucks?

[crimson zinc]

Keep

[potent portal]

Is there a real reason to ditch either? They're not really worth selling unless you're in dire need of $25 and they can be fun to play around with. Honestly, I'd take one to put Windows XP on it and play vintage PC games with since compatibility mode is fairly awful, especially on older games that relied on DOS. Even DOSbox isn't perfect.

It's also fun overclocking on older platforms and not worrying about killing expensive parts

[frail valve]

I mean, funny you should say that, cleaning my office/backroom at the workplace I found a system with an i7 3770, which also happens to be windows xp compatible. Even found a pentium 4 631 PC to throw windows 98 at for pure dos fun.

So I am literally swimming in old PCs. I don't think i can keep em all

[potent portal]

If the reason is that you're running out of room then perhaps it is better to keep the smaller build, or neither.

[crimson zinc]

I’ll take one

[covert vapor]

Put it in a nice case, add a gpu of questionable performance and put it up on ebay as a gaming pc for 10× the value

[crimson zinc]

Real

[frail valve]

. > maybe

Nah I still have some morals left. Very few but some

[ocean ledge]

Hey guys, I am looking for some build advice. Not sure if it's too early, but I am looking to build around a 9800x3d and was wanting to maximize performance while making sure that everything is still compatible. I don't care much about extra RGB. I am okay with getting minimal RGB and maximizing performance. This will be my first PC build from scratch, so I want to make sure I am getting the best setup for my money before I start buying parts.
My budget for just the computer parts is around $2000 USD. I am willing to go a little over if it will be a pretty big difference, but would like to stick around that price point. I don't live near a Microcenter, so I would be ordering online. I mainly play MMO's and Riot games, so I would like to optimize performance for those mainly. At this price point would I be better off trying to go for 4k monitors and still be able to hit 120+ fps on MMO's with a lot of people in an area or would I be better off just going for 2k monitors? If so would I be able to get a recommendation on monitors too for 4k or 2k (whichever would be best for the build). I apologize for asking so much in a single message. I appreciate any help I can get on this!

[rain carbon]

7900xtx is a clear winner here right?

Is the 2000 including peripherals or

Nvm just the computer parts

Fal cie can help here better than i lol

[potent portal]

4k makes the 9800X3D pointless unless you're also getting a 4090, which costs the entire budget. 1440p would be good for MMOs.

It'll be tight but you could probably do 9800X3D + 7900 XTX, I'll double check game benches to see if Riot's engine prefers one brand or another.

[rain carbon]

1440p is more than plenty enough for most users, unless you want say a 32" monitor

[potent portal]

And for MMOs you don't even want a monitor that big

[rain carbon]

At minimum a 2tb SSD if you're downloading modern mmos

[potent portal]

Do you need any extras like wifi, extra USB C ports, etc?

[potent portal]

Here's what I've got including a monitor recommendation so far https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxLXsp

Valorant doesn't favor either major GPU brand and LoL runs at 500 fps on a potato

[ocean ledge]

1440p is perfectly fine with me. I don’t need WiFi, or any other extras I can think of. Is there a reason you recommend the 7900 xtx over any of the nvidia cards?

I don’t play valorant a ton I am playing mmo’s 99% of the time anyways so building for that seems like it would be best

[potent portal]

It's cheaper than the comparable Nvidia option at the price while also being slightly better on average. The only downside to it is slightly worse ray tracing, which it doesn't sound like you're doing anyway.

In my experience most MMOs will run very CPU limited so you should be able to turn up all the graphical settings to max and get similar fps to medium

There's a few graphical settings that do impact the CPU like special effects settings

[ocean ledge]

Ok I was just curious. I have been recommended the 7900xtx from a couple different people, but I have always used nvidia. I have no issue with it I just didn’t know the reason

https://www.newegg.com/asus-vg27aqa1a-27-wqhd-170-hz-va-black/p/N82E16824281243?Item=N82E16824281243&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-281-243-_-10092024

Is there much of a difference between this monitor and the one you added to the list?

[potent portal]

The one I put is OLED which is hands down the best monitor tech that currently exists. No input latency, no smearing/ghosting with fast movement, great colors, perfect contrast.

If you're looking for a more budget oriented one I can find that too

[ocean ledge]

Yeah sure, if you could do that just to compare the two. I am willing to upgrade but wouldn’t mind looking at a more budget monitor rather than the oled and I can replace my current one (the one I linked)

Thinking it’s worth it to atleast upgrade to 240hz

At 1440p

[potent portal]

If that's your target this would be the cheapest one I would consider acceptable https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9MHqqs/gigabyte-gs27q-x-270-2560-x-1440-250-hz-monitor-gs27q-x

It's not HDR, if you want the extra brightness and colors you'll need to pay the premium

[manic cloak]

they have like 5 of these on sale & I was looking into then

synapse, the best software ever totally fries the camera into an auto focus spazam, lighting issues, and with it being discontinued, there's going to be no support for it if razer synapses updates decide to fry the software a bit more

otherwise it's a pretty decent camera without the software at 1080p/60fps

on the fence considering it's razer & if I really need it or not

[jagged ember]

At least an old phone as a webcam won't have those issues

[rain carbon]

My question is how do you set up an old phone as a camera like that lol

[jagged ember]

Download an app

I use droidcam

And it just turns it into basically a wireless webcam you can connect to and use

You'll also need like a small tripod or something to set it up

[rain carbon]

And its obs compatible, pretty sweet

Appreciate it

[ocean ledge]

Ok great. I appreciate your help on this. I will probably end up going with the original monitor you linked to get as much out of the build as possible. I have one more question about this photo. The only compatibility issue is just updating the bios. I would just update this on setup and it will be good to go with everything else in the build?

Didn’t realize I couldn’t post pictures, but this is the message -
Warning: The ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard supports the AMD Ryzen 7
9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor with BIOS version
3.10. If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.

[rain carbon]

Id recommend looking at some oleds at 1440p, that monitor is very top of the class but you dont need to spend that much when diminishing returns very much starts to peep its head out

Ive seen some at 400 recently

You could easily get two for about 1000 and have a dual monitor setup which i think is just way more beneficial for a marginal loss imo

Since im assuming you arent buying all of this now id just keep a tab here for good monitor deals

[ocean ledge]

Ok I will probably end up waiting until Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals for a monitor. I currently have 2 monitors that will work for now. Thank you

[rain carbon]

Aye np, hope you find some good deals and best of luck

[tawdry crow]

Hey everyone im completely new to general PC stuff and builds i wanna transition from my PS5 i have a budget of around 2-2.3k dollars if anyone is willing to recommend me the best build fit for the price it would be appreciated

[mossy venture]

Id want to ask some questions first

Specifically
Wifi or ethernet?
What's the pc being used for, just gaming from the sound of it?
Do you have a microcenter nearby?
Any preference for aesthetic, color, rgb, or size?

[tawdry crow]

Ethernet and mostly gaming

Dont know what a microcenter is but i dont mind aesthetics or colors etc. im not the kinda guy to be specific about those

[mossy venture]

Are you in the US?

If so I'd check Google maps for a microcenter

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q3jMnp

[tawdry crow]

No, at least not currently

[tawdry crow]

is this better than the intel i9?

[mossy venture]

Ah alr. What country? Prices and parts availability vary a lot

[jagged ember]

For gaming?

Yes

[mossy venture]

Yes, but its not out yet. The 7800x3d is, and is about 15% worse

Just low stock

A 7600/x might be a good temporary choice and then upgrade down the line when x3d prices normalize

[tawdry crow]

Saudi Arabia

But studying in the US next year

[jagged ember]

Good luck

In more ways than one, unfortunately

[potent portal]

Yes it would just need a BIOS update. The Pro RS motherboard has the flashback feature to make that easier.

[ocean ledge]

Ok perfect. I have your part list saved and ready to go. I appreciate all of your help on this!

[rain carbon]

as a heads up, intel and amd cpu naming schemes suck, i9 doesnt neccessarily mean its their newest line, let alone best available, there are i9s tracing back to 2017

[rain carbon]

could also be worth waiting on gpu releases next year, maybe just grabbing the 7800X3D and based on pricing the 8000 series or if nvidia actually decides to have any value for money the 5000 series

i would also recommend waiting until you get into the US before these purchases, for one would be one less thing to pack but also because of availabilities sake

hope you enjoy the pc world, the freedom of it is worth the money in the long term imo

look at some pc building guides and learn a bit about the general functions of a pc so youre a bit more prepared

and remember, pcpartpicker is your best friend on compatibility

[dusky hearth]

wait only 2017? feels like it's been around for longer

though 2017 was... about..... 8....... years...... ago.....

[rain carbon]

🥹

[icy thunder]

My PC isn't posting randomly. Left it on all night, which I don't normally do, and when I came back to it today all my peripherals were off including my monitors. Tried the reset button no change. Held power button and turned back on no change. Unplugged and discharged for 30 seconds no change. Not getting bios screen or anything. The lights in the case come on including the little debug light and it's the normal color so not sure what's going on. Any help would be appreciated

Looks like the newest part, my 4070 ti isn't spinning but has lights on

Lovely

Spins up at first then stops

Reseated the entire gpu no change

[mossy venture]

?cmos

[icy thunder]

Haven't done that yet, how do you do that again?

[mossy venture]

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[icy thunder]

W

[mossy venture]

I guess it doesn't work when you reply to someone

[icy thunder]

Ah

[icy thunder]

Tried touching the pins together and taking the battery out for 5 minutes but nc

Apparently the white light means vga

Damn

[manic cloak]

I found out that elgatos cam hub works, you just download an app on your phone, Bluetooth, WiFi, or connect it to your pc and it’s linked

Only issue is, I can’t find my iPhone 6 Plus & I have no clue if an old phone like that would even be able to support any app

So unless you have an “old” iPhone X, the elgato method might not work

[manic cloak]

Do you have specs of your build? Curious

[icy thunder]

Yeah

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ws8dTY

[manic cloak]

So when you boot, I assume lights n all come on from the motherboard or any part that has lights, but no fan spins?

Whether it’s GPU, Case, CPU?

[icy thunder]

Case fans and cpu fans spin

Gpu fans spin for a moment then stop

[manic cloak]

Is your OS on the hard drive?

[icy thunder]

There's s white light on the MB which according to the manual means vga

[manic cloak]

Or on the m.2

[icy thunder]

The sk hynix ssd

[manic cloak]

Okay well

This is a very fetched out idea

But it might be your mobo that’s dead.

[icy thunder]

I was thinking that too

[manic cloak]

I’ve heard about it from a random YT short, it’s the asus white death light for the am4 series

Hold on

[icy thunder]

I have my dp connected to the MB with GPU out of the system and still not getting anything

[manic cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/xjlcef/asus_tuf_x570_vga_white_light_of_death/?rdt=33404

Literally same board

And your vga is only on?

Nothing else?

[mossy venture]

You don't have an igpu

[icy thunder]

I thought maybe it would still go to bios

[icy thunder]

Yep

[manic cloak]

You wouldn’t have any spare parts would you?

Like an extra cpu, gpu, kit of ram?

[icy thunder]

Just ram which I'm not sure will work

Well I guess I have an old 1050 ti low profile card

[manic cloak]

Try swapping out the gpu, I don’t think it’s your ram

[icy thunder]

God I hope it's not gpu

[manic cloak]

Also try using hdmi

With your monitors

Wait does the 1050ti have a hdmi

[icy thunder]

Yeah

[manic cloak]

Alright just try that on one of your monitors

Also is the VGA solid or flashing?

[icy thunder]

Solid

[manic cloak]

I’d still switch GPUs then and use hdmi, I’m reading the comments and basically the issues go from one way to another. Some saying it’s the DP cord being the issue, or how it’s a bad connection with DP, possibly ram seating, the motherboard being absolutely kaka, etc

You can easily rule out a gpu issue & that DP issue with the 1050ti.

[icy thunder]

Dude I have no idea how to take this GPU out

The 1050ti

This PC doesn't have the clip you push down or screws

But when I pull nothing happens

Got it

Crazy

[analog hearth]

My gf and I if we were graphics cards

[honest knot]

big difference

[honest knot]

i was about to say a joke but ill pass

[analog hearth]

💀

[honest knot]

igpus ftw

[icy thunder]

Put new GPU in tried dp and HDMI doing the same thing

[manic cloak]

So more than likely your motherboard is the issue

[icy thunder]

Sounds like it, thanks for looking into this with me

[high field]

What’s a good pc I could get for a 1000$?

[mossy venture]

Building yourself or pre built

[high field]

Myself

[rain carbon]

With or w/o peripherals

[mossy venture]

Then I've got a few questions

Well, more than a few

[rain carbon]

Amd or nvidia for starters

[mossy venture]

Are you in the US, and if so do you have a microcenter nearby?
What's the pc being used for?
Wifi or ethernet?
Any preference for color, rgb, or size?

[high field]

What do mean like colors? And rgb

[mossy venture]

Mouse, keyboard, and monitor

[rain carbon]

Headphones, monitors etc

[mossy venture]

And one last question, would you order a cpu off aliexpress, 7500f? It's well reviews and trustworthy as long as the seller is trustworthy (plenty of yt videos) and is great value

[rain carbon]

Gonna go ahead and say for 1000 bucks alone a 7700xt would probs be a good option

How are the bundles looking rn

[mossy venture]

I'd have to check out neweggs bundles options

If no microcenter

[high field]

I do not have a micros center near me and yes I’m from the us used for gaming call of duty and black ops 6 and WiFi decently size one and some rbg

[rain carbon]

When you say some do you want to pay more for say rgb on ram or cpu cooler or would just case fans be fine

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D5PHHCK5?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K9YD4p

7700xt also a fine choice just kinda overpriced rn

Ssd is free with the cpu on newegg

[rain carbon]

6800xt is more than competent as well

[mossy venture]

And there's a lot of good used, refurb, and open box gpus if you're open to those

[high field]

No I got that stuff

[high field]

Nah not aliexpress unfortunately

[rain carbon]

Another question is do you plan to get this now or is this for a future build

Because bundles come and go

[mossy venture]

Imo were going to be seeing better deals more often very soon

[high field]

How much more is the 7700xt

[mossy venture]

Cheaper but worse perf

[rain carbon]

Also newer gen support

[high field]

Sometime soon

[rain carbon]

But not worth the trade off imo

[high field]

Oh

[high field]

U guys would recommend this one though?

[rain carbon]

6800xt is 2020 if i recall correctly?

[high field]

Shows something is 0.00$

[rain carbon]

Its part of a bundle

[mossy venture]

Yeah the ssd is free with the cpu on newegg

[rain carbon]

Thats the ssd

[mossy venture]

I also feel like these are worth mentioning
https://www.ebay.com/itm/156404825193?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155744430304?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

You'd want to upgrade ram and add more storage though

[rain carbon]

Earnestly id get this and just grab the cpu deal and do a swapsies lol

[mossy venture]

?

What cpu deal?

[rain carbon]

The bundle

Im bullying intel

I would never actually do that lol

[high field]

So what setup should I get? 😂

[rain carbon]

Do you want to squeeze out as much as you can with the 1000?

Or grab one of those and make the process a bit more streamlined

[high field]

Grab one of what?

Wasn’t sure who u where talking to

[mossy venture]

If you want best performance and experience, the DIY list is best

Although you'll get better value if you wait a few weeks imo

Or buy parts when deals pop up over the next few weeks

I post deals i find in tech deals (you can scroll through, it's excessive) so you could even turn alerts on for that channel to see if anything pops up

r/buildapcsales is also great

Side note
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BRBW94VL

$10 cooler for the 7600x

[rain carbon]

Sheesh

Not bad

[mossy venture]

This is also really good
https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-aegis-r-13th-desktop

Would still need a ram upgrade tho

[rain carbon]

Half the savings comes from not buying windows fr

But not bad for a 4070 and a good processor

1tb can always be upgraded and used as a secondary in the future

Airflow looks a bit awkward on the front tho tbh

If you just wanna run cod thatll be more than enough

Wouldnt recommend 4k but 1440p and 1080p is more than enough for most games on max

[rough loom]

Buying ram, DDR5 6400 for the 9800x3d, what sticks should I hit

I usually go Gskill, so looking at the z5's non royals this time

I went royals last time

[serene onyx]

Ah crap.

Guys.

I just finished building a new pc right.

Turns on, works

But*

It shows no output

And

It’s not working with any mouse or keyboard I connect to it.

@mossy venture

@obsidian wigeon

Help please.

🙁

I used the motherboard u told me to buy bacca

All parts are new.

(The ram, Gpu, and cpu, have been used in another build, but have been in it for less than 4 months)

[serene onyx]

Guys

Hello.

[mossy venture]

I'm not capable of helping at the moment I'm sorry. Tmrw if no one else does

Been crying

[serene onyx]

Oh

I’m sorry

[rain carbon]

Sorry to hear that, hope everything gets better soon

[potent portal]

What motherboard and CPU?
Are there any lights lit on the motherboard?
Where do you have the video cable plugged in?

[serene onyx]

So i got some news

I tested the power supply with my psu tester, its working fine, took out and reseated all the parts

reset cmos

didnt work

But this time

i replugged in the 24 pin cable

and it worked

but its not working reliaby

it finally booted and said Nvtpm error or whatever its called

[potent portal]

When it gets to that screen you press "Y" and it'll continue

[serene onyx]

I did

But its not booting into bios

Its booting but not into bios

Is that normal?

[potent portal]

That's fairly normal with modern secure boot settings

[serene onyx]

Ok sounds good

its working now

Im going to walmart to get anoither usb

lost my main usb

[potent portal]

If you need to get into bios you can always hold shift while you click "restart" in windows and it'll go to the advanced boot menu

From there you'd select enter uefi

[serene onyx]

thanks

I’m mad I lost my usb

I’m pretty sure a friend stole it from me

It was my main w11 boot drive and I had a crap ton of drivers and stuff on there

Argh this is annoying

[serene onyx]

@potent portal hey how do u bypass signing into microsoft for this pc

im gonna sell it and dont wanna put my email in

I did the cmd method but its not woeking

Working

[potent portal]

Which command method? There's several. The most reliable one I've seen is creating a local admin user using the net commands

[jagged ember]

I think the OOBE cmd still works

Used it fairly recently to setup a new computer for someone and it just worked

[potent portal]

OOBE\BYPASSNRO ?

[jagged ember]

Yeah

[serene onyx]

it didnt work

[jagged ember]

My friend got a new laptop and I did that

And it just worked

About a month ago?

[potent portal]

I think they patched it out of 24h2

[jagged ember]

Aaahhh

Yeah it must not have a been 24h2

[serene onyx]

I dont want to use rufus

[jagged ember]

Thank god

[jagged ember]

Not sure what this method is but

Might work

[serene onyx]

If i bypass i can always resign in later right?

[serene onyx]

How do i do rthis

[jagged ember]

Yes

[serene onyx]

I just need to bypass so i can sell

Unless i can use mines and just sign out

[jagged ember]

Eh wouldn't risk it

[serene onyx]

I dont want too either

[jagged ember]

I can look it up in a bit but rn I don't have anything unfortunately

[serene onyx]

i think it didnt work cause i alr connected to wifi before i tried to bypass

[potent portal]

net user "Username" "Password" /add
net localgroup administrators "Username" /add

reboot

[serene onyx]

Bet

thanks

im gonan try

Still making me sign in

[jagged ember]

Oh yeah no that'll probably be the reason if it wasn't patched out

Just wipe the drive and redo the install

[serene onyx]

I might do that

Gonna start it fresh again

[jagged ember]

Yes

Good

[potent portal]

If you're going that route let me pass you a file to add to your usb that bypasses it

[jagged ember]

Don't let microsoft hoover all of your data

[serene onyx]

thanks send it over

[potent portal]

Gimme a minute

[jagged ember]

I also use Risen's script to remove the telemetry and bloatware

[serene onyx]

Interesting

[jagged ember]

Cause windows loves to install crap

Revouninstaller is also a great tool for uninstalling programs fully

[serene onyx]

Ive heard of them

pretty good

[potent portal]

+1 for revo

Creating a custom autounattend script right now

[serene onyx]

Thanks man

I appreciate it

Im gonna try the fresh thing

in the mean time

if it still dont work im gonna run the thing

[crimson zinc]

Cheapest build for the recommended specs using used parts?

[potent portal]

Is there only one drive in the system?

[serene onyx]

Yes

1tb nvme

i think i installed 2 windows os on the same drive

i rebooted

it asked which windows 11 volume 3 did i want to boot into

[jagged ember]

Did you format everything on the drive

[serene onyx]

Deleted all partitions

[jagged ember]

I format them and then delete them

[serene onyx]

ok i think im jsut going crazy

[jagged ember]

Then I format the whole thing again because I'm paranoid

[serene onyx]

it has 905 gb available

[serene onyx]

this is so me

[potent portal]

This file goes on the root of the install USB and:
Creates an admin user "User" with password "changeme"
Skips EULA
Skips Wifi
Skips "Welcome" messages
Skips auto activate (do it later in windows)
Skips sending M$ a report on the install

[serene onyx]

YES

THANK YTOU

Do i have to access it via cmd to run

or does it run automatically upon booting up

[potent portal]

It's automatic when you run the windows installation

[serene onyx]

NICE

thank you

it worked

WOOHOO

installing drivers

[potent portal]

Sweet! Glad that worked out

[serene onyx]

Thank you

what are some apps that run benchmarks

timespy is on steam right?

[potent portal]

OCCT for stress testing
3Dmark (you can get a demo on Steam, that's Time Spy plus a few others)

[serene onyx]

thanks

[potent portal]

Benchmate will automatically handle lots of different benchmarks too

[serene onyx]

what are these apps on

occt is what

[potent portal]

ocbase

[jagged ember]

Benchmark being one thing makes sense

Mark is one guy

Mate implies more than one person in certain contexts

[potent portal]

Benchmate is here also
https://benchmate.org/

Compare results with hwbot.org if you want to see how you stack up

[serene onyx]

thanks

[crimson zinc]

.

[potent portal]

$150 for a HP workstation with an E5-16XX and a 1060

[serene onyx]

Hey guys i bought a argb fan hub but their is no place to connect the reset switch to connect to the hub to change the argb. did they just send me the wrong one?

[potent portal]

You probably either control it with a remote or the motherboard

[serene onyx]

how i do the mother board way

nvm i think the instructions for the mobo show me

[potent portal]

It would connect to an argb header on the motherboard

[serene onyx]

The hub?

It is

Im gonan check the manual

[fleet bolt]

anyone got a good pc build for 650 dollars

[potent portal]

Not with new parts

[fleet bolt]

oh alr

if i’m looking for a new one

what level of a gpu

should i go for

[potent portal]

You'd be very lucky to get a 6500 xt in that budget and I strongly recommend avoiding that

[crimson zinc]

Any links to specials?

[potent portal]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382453662473

Can get more RAM and a SSD for a total around $150

Plus this https://www.ebay.com/itm/356237226663

[crimson zinc]

Bet

[potent portal]

It won't run Win11 without bypasses, just fyi. No TPM.

It's comparable to a 6600K

But moar threads

[serene onyx]

Ah i got the fans to work

It was the app

[potent portal]

Dang software

There isn't a single one that doesn't suck

[crimson zinc]

This guy is offering $150.

Could just use as a temp.

[potent portal]

No GPU and alienware heat, eh

[crimson zinc]

[terse breach]

https://tenor.com/view/小猫吃惊-what-amazed-gif-15665604

📡

[languid nimbus]

wha

[jagged ember]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-deployed-alien-cat-gif-10264569409756179931

[mossy venture]

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

thanks

[mossy venture]

Ty

[serene onyx]

Pc with a Ryzen 5 1300x, 1660 super, 512gb ssd, 32gb ram for 300$?!?!

Worth it?

[tawny violet]

What's the Mobo and PSU?

[serene onyx]

600 watt psu

Mobo I have no clue

[tawny violet]

Any specific model of PSU?

600w tells us basically nothing

[potent portal]

1300X - $20
Mobo - $50 (maybe)
1660 - $100
SSD - $25
RAM - $50
PSU - assumed ewaste

[serene onyx]

Let me check

[potent portal]

That would add up to roughly $300 with everything included so it's the right price at least

But that doesn't make it a good deal

[tawny violet]

Yeah 300 could be reasonable of there is a REALLY high-quality PSU

But I doubt with that sort of rig

[serene onyx]

Same

[tawny violet]

So just assume it's ewaste and haggle down to ~220

[potent portal]

The 1660 is below the minimum spec on a lot of new games

[tawny violet]

Preferably lower

[potent portal]

I'd only be considering a 1660 super for a plex transcoder card at this point, or a retro-ish PC card

The 10 series is 8.5 years old after all

16 only technically newer to compete with amd at the low end

[serene onyx]

Oh yeah

Yall think 250$ is good for that?

300 with monitor?

[potent portal]

I could live with that price

[serene onyx]

Or 350$

With monitor

Not sure yet

[serene onyx]

Bet

[potent portal]

Depends on the monitor really. If it's some 1080p 60Hz blur-fest then it's not worth much.

[serene onyx]

Asrock ab350 gaming k4 fatalty motherboard

[potent portal]

That's the kind of thing you pick up at goodwill for $20

[serene onyx]

Yeah I get you there

[potent portal]

That's worth about $60 so I was close on my estimate

[serene onyx]

Monitor 144hz

[potent portal]

Well that's something at least

$300 for the lot would be ok to me

[serene onyx]

Sounds good

Thanks 🫡

[potent portal]

It would be a good candidate for a 5600X3D upgrade. Wouldn't go any higher than that with those puny heatsinks.

And I did confirm it has an update to support that, P7.40

[serene onyx]

NICE thank you!

[serene onyx]

Check this out on @Newegg:MSI MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI AM5 AMD X670E SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-x670e-tomahawk-wifi-atx-amd-x670e-am5/p/N82E16813144595?item=9SIAM8DKDG4276

Is this good?

If not any better alternative?

I’ve heard bad things of tomahawk mobos but not sure if it’s true

[cyan ravine]

What is the pc being used for

[serene onyx]

Just gaming

[cyan ravine]

Then I'd say no, you should pick something else

Cos the benefits of X670E aren't anything a person who just games will see

Better off with a B650/A620 then you can use the savings elsewhere

[serene onyx]

Thanks

[cyan ravine]

X670E gives I/O for creators

So like

More PCIe slots for multiple gpus

Raid support for servers

None of those things do anything for the cpu performance or gaming pc benefits

[mossy venture]

b650e riptide wifi is as high as wed suggest

[serene onyx]

Erm hey guys

Is 85 c good for a Ryzen 7 5700x?

😅

I think it’s normal right?

Stock cooler

[cyan ravine]

Not 95 = good

[serene onyx]

Thanks

[strong knoll]

i’m trying to install this ram into my motherboard

and won’t seem to fit

any ideas?

[rough loom]

did you buy the correct ram for your mobo

well its am5 and ddr5 so it should fit, just make sure the key in the middle fits

some new ram slots can be tight and hard to seat

[dusky hearth]

make sure to line up the notch with the silver thing in the ram slot

[strong knoll]

thank yall ending up getting

it

just need to wiggle it in there real good

[strong knoll]

hey so i just finished building it but no display

vga light is one i’m pretty sure but not sure what the problem is

can someone help

[stoic island]

Check you have the display plugged into GPU and not mobo, check GPU power, reseat GPU, double check which debug LED is on and troubleshoot off of that

[strong knoll]

i got it to work but ended up getting a “new cpu installed ftpm/psp nv corrupted”

what does that mean

[stoic island]

TPM is a security feature that is tied with the hardware, with a new build, there is nothing setup there, you might need to enable it if you plan on using windows 11

[strong knoll]

how do i enable it

[stoic island]

It's in the bios, location can differ, generally in the security/boot section

[strong knoll]

thank you

my computer is not picking up the wifi connection

or ethernet

how do i get past this part

its mot picking up my wifi

or ethernet

[analog hearth]

Restart the installation process but change the language to "English (World)". Yeah it sounds weird but it'll let you get through the installation process without signing into Windows (with Ethernet not plugged in and no antennas on the Wi-Fi). Plus it's less bloaty

Just change your region settings post-installation back to whichever country you reside in so you can still use the Microsoft Store and whatever else

I do this for every installation

You could also get a USB to Ethernet adapter. I had to do that with my previous build that couldn't connect to Wi-Fi nor (motherboard) Ethernet

[strong knoll]

would u be able to guide me te thru

im not sure wym by restart the install

i start my pc and this is the first question i get

[mossy venture]

Windows set up is self explanatory

It takes you through a bunch of yes, no, or multiple choice questions

[strong knoll]

ik but when i get to the wifi part no wifi pops up

[rain carbon]

Wheres the no button 😭

[strong knoll]

i have both the wifi and ethernet cable

[mossy venture]

What phone do you have

You can share wifi from your phone, I think it might be android only though

[strong knoll]

this is where i get stuck

[mossy venture]

I've never had to do a windows install without wifi, but I think you can bypass the wifi step?

[strong knoll]

i have an ethernet cable connected

and

and this

how do you bypass it

[mossy venture]

I'm not sure. Ethernet might kick in if you disable your wifi card in bios, but again that's something I haven't done

@potent portal has i believe

[dusky hearth]

Try pressing shift f10

If a CMD window opens, type in oobe\bypassnro

And click enter

[strong knoll]

will that mess up anything ?

i’ve seen a couple videos telling me to do that

[vale epoch]

Nah i did the same thing

Even if it does once you have a the wifi or lan drivers installed a windows reset wont remove them

[strong knoll]

and how do install those

[vale epoch]

You need windows set up first then u download em onto a drive from a different pc and plug it and move and extract

And the drivers are typically available in your mobos support page

[strong knoll]

so i need to install them into a usb ?

cuz it was giving me that option

i just thought there was another way

sorry im new to all this

okay i got in

it told me to download this

[rain carbon]

Armoury is so full of bloatware 😭

[strong knoll]

sooo wasnt a good idea lol

got me connected to the wifi so

[dusky hearth]

Amoury Crate helps with driver installation

But is quite bloated yeah

Less of an issue on desktop

But it absolutely sucks on laptops

Use ghelper if you ever end up owning an Asus laptop or handheld

I don't think it works with any desktop hardware

[analog hearth]

Armoury Crate isn't the worst

You know, it's a pain to fully uninstall and a pain to generally use

Also don't install the extra programs it encourages you to install

[high field]

What’s a good 4k monitor I could get for msfs2024 and I also play bo6 I currently have a lg ultra gear 1440p monitor but I want something better.

[verbal quarry]

Which is a better cpu the R7 7700x or the r7 9700x? I'm looking for an all around cpu so I can do some medium to heavy gaming, college and office work

[mossy venture]

What's the college and office work?

Those two and the 7600/x and 9600x are near identical in gaming

[verbal quarry]

My wife is going through college for nursing and the office work is her making a small business online

[mossy venture]

Yeah you really won't benefit from the extra cores

If uphradability isn't important 13600k/kf would be the best choice purely value wise

Or 7500f off aliexpress

[potent portal]

Definitely not something you want to spend extra for 9000 series

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BCF5CZ16

$175

[verbal quarry]

Appreciate the help with pointing me in the right direction

[mossy venture]

np, if you dont mind me asking what other parts were you looking to replace or buy?

[lament heath]

Trying to get my gf a PC for Christmas but not trying to spend over $800. She doesn't play anything too heavy mostly indie games. Would this be a good option for a first time PC?

[rain carbon]

Id look for something used personally

Better perf to price ratio

[mossy venture]

Definitely not
https://www.ebay.com/itm/375773747904?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FD6px4KaRcK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[rain carbon]

Now thats a really good pc for that price

Yeah at that price range buying new is like asking to get scammed

[lament heath]

That's fair honestly I guess buying pre-owned never occured to me 😂

Thanks

[lament heath]

Just to make sure but are HP omens made just as dumb as their laptops making them difficult to swap parts?

Cause chances are I'll be swapping the case for something better

[mossy venture]

Yes

And you can't swap case without changing mobo and psu too

[maiden mica]

I am looking for a pre built pc with a budget of 775$

[analog hearth]

Man what kind of price per spec is this, not even to mention that it's from CyberProblems

[dusky hearth]

never buy ibuypower or cyberpower prebuilts

truly garbage tier

[olive cypress]

came out ok, always better than dvd drive. improved under load temperatures by 3C on the gpu and 5C on the cpu

[iron berry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vqvf74

Cpu mobo and ram are a bundle (will be 48gb ram not 32 from the bundle), unsure if that psu is enough with the card or sure of the card choice heard horror stories with amd cards and software so wanting to stick to nvidia

Any suggestions appreciated

[stoic island]

Already have the case? And again, I'd recommend just getting a 7900xtx as with 90% of the time, nowadays Nvidia has as many software problems as AMD.

[iron berry]

Yes case is already owned

Case and storage and case fans are the things getting re used, cpu cooler is the last thing needed to add but havent decided air vs aio

[iron berry]

Why recommend the 7900xtx

[stoic island]

Had to double check prices, 7900xtx prices did increase, but the performance is more on par with a 4080 for a bit higher price than 4070ti super.

[iron berry]

major thing i am curious on is PSU and if 850 is fine for the 4070 ti super or if i would have to go up

[stoic island]

850w is going to be fine, 4070 ti super is only really like a 300w card

[iron berry]

cool i havent looked around lately and i had been seening when the 30 series were out alot of convos about power consumption

[stoic island]

30 series had some really high spikes, 40 series not really

It does still draw a lot of power, but nothing a 850w PSU can't do

[iron berry]

any recommendations on a cooler either air or a 120 aio since thats all the rear can hold

or should i go to cooling chat for that

[stoic island]

I'd top mount a 240mm if you wanted an aio, or just grab like a peerless assassin 120

120mm aios are not worth it

[iron berry]

https://a.co/d/cZFxzxs

this one?

[stoic island]

Yea

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-4486520

[mossy venture]

the 48gb ram at microcenter is slow

dont do the 48gb bundle

and honestly

7600x3d or 78003xd with a 4080 or xtx would be a much better decision if the machine is just gaming

7600x3d to 7800x3d to 9800x3d is a very minor real world difference

[iron berry]

longevity wise though would it make a difference? i dont plan to upgrade again for another 6 8 years maybe since im going from a 1070ti that is just hitting a wall for games im playing now and coming out next year

[iron berry]

I will ask before doing it i know the 32gb shows 6000 speed i assumed the 48 would be to

[mossy venture]

the 48gb kit is 5200mhz unfortunately, but they might let you do a faster kit and pay the difference

longevity wise between 7800x3d and 9800x3d there won't really be a difference, 7600x3d i can't say so as confidently

but it will certainly hold up well

[lament heath]

yeah I assumed as much but Im fine with swapping those 2 parts if its to get a better case lol

[lament heath]

yeah Ive heard cyberpower is bad but I wasnt sure what other brands to get

[dusky hearth]

realistically? no

there are still some people on like

ryzen 1000 series

still works*

*dont use them for gaming because they are quite old now

im on ryzen 3700x and that still can run any desktop game fine at reasonable settings, and it only struggles a bit on vr

[potent portal]

It'll be good for overclocking but not at expo

[mossy venture]

Oh is it? I thought it was samsung

[potent portal]

The 24Gb die is different from the 16Gb

All the 24Gb dies are good for 8000+

[mossy venture]

Oh dope

[zenith cargo]

I'm trying to increase my fps and have a stable 240 in bo6 or in general. I play at a 2k res but get severe stuttering and frame drop, overall inconsistent frames. Could this be an optimization issue or do I need an upgrade? My specs are, R5 5600x3d, 6900xt, dual channel 32gb ram. b550m. Any recs? Thanks!

[potent portal]

Overclocking memory should help with lows and smoothness

[zenith cargo]

Thoughts?

[zenith cargo]

OC ram already

[potent portal]

Post zentimings

GPU is fine from what I can see

[mossy venture]

Honestly the answer might just be a lower frame limit

Bo6 is demanding. I'm not so sure 5600x3d is going to push a consistent 240 in it

Especially with how cpu heavy warzone 2 was, I've heard bo6 did better but I'm not sure how true that is

[zenith cargo]

I did notice lower cpu usage in bo6, wz2 was around 85-100. Now it chills around 60-80

[potent portal]

That barely looks overclocked

[mossy venture]

I'd try a 144-200 fps limit before anything else

Well

Ram oc would genuinely help perf like fal is saying so that could lead to less frame drops, but its much easier to limit frames than mess with ram oc lol

[zenith cargo]

Do you think switching to am5 will help my pc's performance in general?

including everyday tasks

and school work

[mossy venture]

School work hell nah, unless you're in some major with demanding workloads like needing CAD programs

Every day tasks same answer. Gaming, potentially

5600x3d is slightly behind the 7600/x, but not by far

You're looking at a $400 cpu, $120-150 mobo, and $95 ram for a 20-30% upgrade

[zenith cargo]

what about the 9600x

[mossy venture]

Barely better than the 7600/x

Maybe 2-4%

[zenith cargo]

true

But I'd sell my current parts

for like $250

$200 idk

and just get a bundled am5

[crimson zinc]

I’ll give you $tree.fiddy

[zenith cargo]

send addy

[mossy venture]

5600x3d def worth 135 or so alone

I haven't seen 5000x3d below $170 idt

[weary galleon]

Probably more

Well I guess there are AliExpress 5700x3ds for pretty cheap

I'm quite tempted to grab one

[zenith cargo]

fb marketplace says otherwise

My area sucks for selling

I always get offers worth 30%-50% of what its worth

and sadly have to take up on the dumb offers because I'd rather get sum than nothing

[copper echo]

hey, i looking for a new pc, but idk what hardware is the best for my budget (5kusd) anyone can help me?

[rough loom]

5k is enough for just the PC alone to buy the best of everything and still have wiggle room

the question should be what do you need to do with the PC

[copper echo]

i just want to play evrything in high fps

[crimson zinc]

@copper echo do you have any specific needs/aesthetics?

[copper echo]

just like the case full glass and evrything white

[crimson zinc]

Need peripherals included?

[weary galleon]

5600x3d would sell on ebay I'd guess.

[copper echo]

only the monitor in need some like 540hz or something more than 240hz

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p798db

Rough draft

Can be improved by someone not tired

[rain carbon]

Id def try and get a 9800X3D at that price range

Through bundle or whatever you can rn

https://www.amazon.com/INNOCN-Monitor-Connectivity-Speakers-Adjustable/dp/B0CMSVLJW2

You do say you want a higher refresh

But id at least recommend an OLED as a second monitor

Refresh rates above 240hz is VERY MUCH beyond the realm of diminishing returns

[weary galleon]

unless you are an actual esports professional I wouldn't bother going over 240hz

[rain carbon]

And even as an esports pro its still a stretch

[weary galleon]

also OLED has much better pixel response times, it'll look cleaner

[rain carbon]

Absolutely

Helps a lot with smudge frames

Youll get a lot more out of response times than hz above 240

Shoot i run a 180hz monitor and thats still more than enough

[cyan ravine]

@analog hearth get in 'ere

Prepare to be discombobulated

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-distract-target-rdj-fighting101-gif-11233139

https://tenor.com/view/discombobulate-sherlock-sherlock-holmes-gif-14388058

[analog hearth]

:0

But I don't need tech support

[mossy venture]

Dont use fbm then lol

r/hardwareswap

[sour sage]

@rain carbon i didn't find the details tab at first in task manager , but i found it and unchecked core 0 , which made the game feel better but , gpu utilization is still low

[rain carbon]

That's unfortunate

Felix get in here 😭

[sour sage]

am considering to upgrade ram but hesitent to open it up , after what happend to my last laptop that is ,

and like

i looked up the difference between single channel and dual channel in performance

and in situations in which am already getting low fps it shouldn't make a difference

[cyan ravine]

How much ram is in it and how many sticks

[sour sage]

1x8gb

ddr4-3200

[cyan ravine]

You're running which kind of windows?

@sour sage

[sour sage]

11

[cyan ravine]

Just 11?

Not some special version or

[sour sage]

special versions? aren't they windows 11 home and ultimate

i haven't checked but probably home

[cyan ravine]

Ok that alone suffices as a reasonable answer

I see the problem

You really want more ram

8 is tiny for games

It's good enough for day to day, some light gaming examples you can skate away with in optimised windows installs (Hence the recent question of which windows)

But for general gaming, not a lot

And 8gb is likely single channel at that

So very stuttery, very inconsistent performance

This was mostly fixed with DDR5 but DDR4 really wants dual channel configs

If it's soldered, you could do another 8gb sodimm, run it stock, keep your windows usage very lightweight (No background tasks or very minimal)

If it's replaceable, go to 32gb imo

Used kits of ddr4 are very affordable

[sour sage]

both are replacable

but

isn't 32gb overkill???

[cyan ravine]

32GB is completely eaten by some games these days

Maybe it is in terms of a 1650 laptop, but up to you

I can easily tell the difference is that you only have 8 rn tho

8 is barely enough for basic windows work these days

[sour sage]

and still most laptops come wiith 1x8 gb 😭

my friend also have a 1x8 laptop

[cyan ravine]

Yup

[sour sage]

he has a slightly better laptop tho

rtx 3060 mobile

gets like 60 on elden

[cyan ravine]

The amount of small details that lead to problems with tech purchases these days

[sour sage]

my purchase was mad lucky tho

i got mine for like

400 usd

which is cheap here

[cyan ravine]

The lay person isn't capable of knowing that it's an odd configuration, and then in the real practice of it learn either after and need to upgrade and upgrade the warranty, or you end up finding out before and you are likely to buy the better model

[sour sage]

laptops with 3050 in where i live go for 800

no stores at all to build a pc at a resonable rpice

[cyan ravine]

It's "scumbag marketing" but I couldn't lay blame to anyone really

[cyan ravine]

Kinda ok, though you will want to change the ram in it really

Chances are the warranty is lapsed by now

[sour sage]

i bought it like 1 week ago the warrinty is still on

[rain carbon]

Oh shoot your ram was ddr4 too? Yeah explains the perf issues a bit more

I didnt want to say for sure it was the ram but it def feels like a problem, i would recommend looking at some 8x2 ddr5 kits

[cyan ravine]

Laptop wouldn't be compatible I'm pretty sure

[rain carbon]

It wouldnt? Rip

I dunno laptop parts as well

[mossy venture]

no ddr4 machine will run ddr5

without at least a mobo swap

[rain carbon]

Oh shoot yeah you cant mobo swap 💀

I forgor

And im sure cpu is integrated into mobo too

[mossy venture]

ye

i hate laptops

[rain carbon]

i love laptops

I hate laptop designs

Most ive ever been able to swap has been ram and ssds

And ive swapped out displays

[tawny violet]

@cyan ravine What is that USB key on top of the chip if I may ask?

is it just a USB key, or something more spicy?

[potent portal]

I think he just used it to cover the serial number

[tawny violet]

ah

[subtle halo]

thats alot of laptop

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z83WZc

Thoughts on this build?

[mossy venture]

i like most of it

id just change some minor things to do a better monitor

few min

[analog hearth]

Get this monitor instead
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CX8496ZP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title

I personally have also been having a bad experience with ADATA XPG SSDs

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7jMXLc

forgot monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JPrYcf/gigabyte-g27q-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-g27q

[analog hearth]

Also refer to the PSU tier list (I'm telling you to avoid the Thermaltake Smart PSU)

[little osprey]

why's that

[mossy venture]

bm3 isnt terrible but not good

[analog hearth]

Just not a good reliable PSU

[mossy venture]

there's much better psus at the price

[little osprey]

like?

[mossy venture]

.

look in this list

also you could fit a 7800xt in budget

[analog hearth]

Get the 750W PSU in #tech-deals that Bacca posted lol

[mossy venture]

few min

[little osprey]

was the PSU the only different thing changed?

from what I saw at least

[analog hearth]

There's also a 2TB SSD in there now

[mossy venture]

and cheaper cooler

[analog hearth]

Cheaper case but it won't get you roasted by the experienced PC people (and it still looks good)

[mossy venture]

cheaper case

Ended up costing more
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HxJBmC

could do an asrock 1440p monitor for cheaper

[little osprey]

so the psu, storage, and gpu

[mossy venture]

cooler changed too

cooler is "worse" but will do the job the same

[mossy venture]

so would the cooler in this list, but a lot more changed in this one than the first

[little osprey]

why a worse cooler?

[analog hearth]

That CPU really doesn't need much to cool it. It even comes with a cooler

[mossy venture]

because it will do the job the same, am5 is super easy to cool

the 7600 with an amd stock cooler is perfectly fine, and the 7500f is a 7600 with no igpu and a slight downclock

hell the 7800x3d is fine with a stock cooler

[analog hearth]

Why spend $20 on a good cooler when you can spend $10 on a cooler that's marginally inferior?

[mossy venture]

well the $10 cooler is objectively worse than the other two options

but it's still decent and it will handle a 7500f easily

[little osprey]

this list only has 1th of storage

[mossy venture]

Yes

Look at the other list

I gave two options

The second was trying to do as cheap as possible without bad parts aside from monitor and gpu

Meaning gpu and monitor were not as cheap as possible

[vale epoch]

Do u guys have any recs for 120mm fans with a similar style to these for bottom intakes?

[little osprey]

@mossy venture I noticed the GPUs are the same price on all lists provided, including the one I provided as well. What's the difference between the GPUs?

[potent portal]

The way they look

As long as they're the same model then they'll perform within a couple % of each other

Granted a few exceptions for bad designs

[rain carbon]

And in my personal opinion i think its more worth it to get a 3 fan design if your case has the room for it

[potent portal]

What fans are those? If they came with the case then the model of that will work

[vale epoch]

Montech xr

Cant find any info on the fans in the page

Except their sizes

I think i found it

[potent portal]

Well I'd recommend a reverse blade fan since it'll be bottom intake to start with so that can help narrow down the search for similar ones

[vale epoch]

Hmm not rb tho