building-and-recc-chat

[raw dove]

tryna fit it in this with a budget of $950

i wanted to know if there was anything worth checking out usef

[mossy venture]

Nice list

You could spend $5 more for a good bit better psu tho
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bGJp99/corsair-rm750x-shift-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-side-interface-atx-power-supply-cp-9020251-na

Rmx is top tier

Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tWMTwP/cooler-master-mwe-gold-850-v2-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-8501-afaag-us

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x2xkvj

@mossy venture

That look fine to suggest?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/356193816305?

3070ti for $300 on eBay

[mossy venture]

I dont like the gpu personally

[crimson zinc]

Neither do I
But there’s similar for a couple bucks more.

[mossy venture]

Zotac has 3070 at like 255 i think

For same perf

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Pphd89

New list

@raw dove

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8TrPmD

My take

[crimson zinc]

I’d use a better looking case, but this is a better list

[raw dove]

baller

sweet

[raw dove]

that gpu an averaged price?

[crimson zinc]

Used

But baccas list will be better

I’d just use a prettier case

[manic cloak]

So like is anybody here willing to give me some guidance if I mess up reposting my gpu

Repasting*

Cause like I’m kinda scared to do this 😭

[crimson zinc]

https://youtu.be/Nvl1C5MLPaI?feature=shared

[manic cloak]

I’ve watched it but I just generally might have an issue with the pads is all & possible RMA warranty

[crimson zinc]

If you can get it RMA’d, do that

[manic cloak]

Nonono

This card is an RMA card

My original one was defective since the day it arrived for artifrscting

Finally found out what the 7800xt pulse insides look like

[cyan ravine]

Just don't wrench it apart and make sure to spread the paste across the entire die, apart from that, almost zero risk

[manic cloak]

Is there any pads that need attention or should I just get the die and close it up

[manic cloak]

Ya I was careful considering the fan header is latched onto the board. I slowly shifted it and pryed with even pressure on each side before one gave through

But otherwise no pad issues?

[cyan ravine]

Just looks like a goofy mount to me on the core

Idk why you're repasting anyway

I don't have any context

[manic cloak]

like 3-4 months ago I wanted to repaste it because performance took a very noticeable 💩 & the temps kept rising slowly

[cyan ravine]

Lmfao

Well that's probably dry paste

[manic cloak]

I can’t even remove it

It’s really hard

Im using a q tip with isopropyl though but its still difficult

[cyan ravine]

LOL

I don't think I've ever reached the "Concrete" phase of thermal paste

[manic cloak]

And I don’t think it helps that I got licensed isopropyl (apparently 99%?) that my dad managed to bring home from his work 💀

With the cap off it gives me a headache

[crimson zinc]

You can buy some on Amazon for $9

[manic cloak]

oh ya ik, just this is the only isopropyl that’s on hand 😭

[cyan ravine]

Why's he taped like metal sponges to it

Is

IS HE SURE IT'S ISO??

@manic cloak does it immediately evaporate when you use it

[manic cloak]

Yes it is and yes it does..it’s also styrofoam 😭

[cyan ravine]

Ok it likely is iso

Or rather

An alcohol of high concentration

Which works

But the styrtofoam on the sides is strange af

[manic cloak]

I mean it’s a glass jar, only ordered in gallons through his work

I wouldn’t want this to break & spill either tbh

[dusty coyote]

Welllllll fellas I’m back…. So every game I have, no matter what platform, they all keep crashing. I have a gigabyte 4070 Ti, 32GB Corsair vengeance DDR5 RGB RAM, AMD 7900X cpu, ROG Strix B650E-F gaming WiFi, and 2TB of storage.

[cyan ravine]

I can have a look later maybe but rn I'm hungover af

Lmao

[dusty coyote]

Fair enough lol

[cyan ravine]

But do this in start menu

Then read all the errors and critical errors

Find out what they say

Red X's

[manic cloak]

Q tip is soaked in the iso and I’m apparently some pressure and it’s not budging.. 😭

I’m just dapping tiny bits of iso on the thermal paste and waiting so it softens

[cyan ravine]

Skyveha

Grab a paper towel

Soak it in some iso

Wipe carefully

[manic cloak]

Alr

[cyan ravine]

Q-tip is only so effective

[manic cloak]

So shiny

[cyan ravine]

All the mlc's are still around the die ye?

[manic cloak]

Mlc?

[cyan ravine]

These things around it

[manic cloak]

Oh ya

All of them are

[cyan ravine]

Ok, you have basically no risk from here once you cover the entire die perfectly

Keep going

[manic cloak]

It’s put back together

Stressful but it was cool

[cyan ravine]

Not that hard is it

[manic cloak]

But did I void my RMA warranty from screwing that sticker

[manic cloak]

Aside from the concrete thermal paste not at all tbh

[cyan ravine]

Probably one of the easiest things you can do in a pc is repaste of gpu tbh

Easier than cpu imo

Can take it right out, do it separate

[manic cloak]

It’s just having the 500$ part in your hands in pieces is what makes me nervous

But otherwise I made sure the cooler was pressed onto it, then I just screwed it back on with the star method

Now I just gotta repaste the cpu, then fire it back up..

[cyan ravine]

Yup

[manic cloak]

it booted!

[manic cloak]

So uh performance doesn't look well compared to other 7800xts, the temps are doing amazing now but the performance though?

https://www.gpumagick.com/scores/show.php?id=426620

[manic cloak]

this was my score back in July.. https://www.gpumagick.com/scores/show.php?id=204497

[manic cloak]

the mx-6 is 100% working considering i've had hotter than this when it isn't so hot hot but otherwise I haven't tweaked any of my settings for awhile now

I don't know what would make my system lose 20 fps, I haven't updated my bios (not even after that x125 and x129 stuff) or windows, possibly my amd drivers?

[crimson zinc]

Any way to repair damage done to this 1080 by an AIO falling on it?

[dusky hearth]

With that much corrosion, it may be difficult
Especially considering how much corrosion there is on the PCB, I have a sneaking suspicion that the owner didn't realize something was wrong until the PC stopped working, so there is a bit of a chance that the GPU may be dead and can't be fixed just by cleaning off the corrosion

[crimson zinc]

Sad.
It was an older system, but had a nice looking 1080.

[dusky hearth]

If you can get it for free, it may be worth attempting to fix, but I don't think you should spend any money to get the GPU to try to fix

[crimson zinc]

It’d come free with a like $100 pc

[weary galleon]

I'd check drivers and fan profiles first. Beyond that I'm.not sure what would be the issue

[dusky hearth]

Considering that you're doing this for profit
Make sure the rest of the PC would be worth the cost, and consider the GPU to not be able to be sold
So that if you can fix it, you can have extra revenue, but if it doesn't work, you wouldn't have to eat a loss

[crimson zinc]

Alienware.

[dusky hearth]

Hmm

[crimson zinc]

I could probably flip it for $250? If I can get the gpu working.
If not, I guess I’d have a server.

[dusky hearth]

Maybe try haggling on the price a bit

[crimson zinc]

I’ll try.

[whole inlet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mddc6D

Guys, give me your opinion, I've compiled it

[mossy venture]

Are you just gaming

[whole inlet]

Yes and programming

[mossy venture]

7600, 7600x, 7700 and 7700x all perform very similar in games

Ah alr the extra cores might help with coding if you're doing heavy loads

[whole inlet]

And I want to play flight simulator

[mossy venture]

Id highly advise against an overpriced aio and the very poorly priced 4060 ti

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TG2nmD

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cjvc6D

[whole inlet]

Ok, I can replace it and take the 4070, no problem

[mossy venture]

There's also
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387340821706?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=_WbF24AfQmC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[whole inlet]

nice price

Give me a 2k screen but good price

Because I like play 2K

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QsV3C/acer-nitro-xv275u-p3-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-umhxxaa302

[mossy venture]

Only downside is 10gb vram

Unsure how flight sim likes 10 vs 12. It'll of course still run well, just not sure what the difference will be like

And 3080 runs hotter and I'd probably grab a good 850 instead of the 750

[cursive atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nGmv89

this is my friends built and he wants some feedback on it

i don’t know much about pc parts so yk

[mossy venture]

Does he own any parts yet?

And what's it being used for?

Because id suggest https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sqkPmD

Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WXPHfy

[cursive atlas]

he owns some

let me ask

[cursive atlas]

he plays games

id say val is his main game rn

but he plays a variety yk

he said the rtx, cooling, hdd, cpu, and sdu he doesn’t have

[verbal quarry]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gCzgTY Currently trying to build a small tower and just want to make sure this is a good setup to go with. Any advice or changes are appreciated

[manic cloak]

Did you want the terra case or do you prefer any other small form factor

[mossy venture]

What's the budget

Also what's sdu

Id say something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VqhJz6

5700x3d is far better for gaming than the 5900x

[mossy venture]

Id change some things personally

Like sky asked are you set on the case? What's the build being used for?

[cursive atlas]

ngl i have no clue

but

[cursive atlas]

he has all of this

everything else he doesnt have

[mossy venture]

Same case
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4kgmfy

Diff case, far better value, bit bigger.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrYzn6

[mossy venture]

Oh you said he doesn't

[cursive atlas]

yea he misstyped

[mossy venture]

Damn

That sucks

Any chance he can return the cpu at least?

And that means he doesn't have the ram, mobo, case, and psu right?

[mossy venture]

Cooler too honestly

[cursive atlas]

ill ask him

is the cooler and cpu bad

or

[mossy venture]

Overpriced

5900x is about 15-20% worse than the 5700x3d for twmes

And a $40 cooler is more than adequate

And if he wants an aio, corsair isn't the move

[cursive atlas]

im ngl

i gave him the feeback

and he got upset

im blocked now

thanks for ur help anyways

[potent portal]

Here's a laugh for you.
The 5700X3D beats the brand new Core Ultra 9 285K.

[manic cloak]

Those new CPUs are ruining my life

Like just lower the z790 prices already

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[manic cloak]

Anyways if anyone would like to help with my situation, I kept running it over and over & nothing changed, I tweaked the Overclocking in drivers & nothing changed aswell

Is it possible that my system is just already killing itself?

[mossy venture]

Sounds about right

[cursive atlas]

was tryna help him fr

but would there be a better 200 dollar cooler

than that one

[mossy venture]

There isn't really anything noticeably better than the lf III 360/420 around $90-120

[verbal quarry]

Ive only really looked at this one because it caught my eye but anything better is prefered.

[mossy venture]

But 7000 series is super easy to cool. The 7950x3d performs the same under a $40 phantom spirit air cooler compared to that lf III

[potent portal]

If you're referring to the voltage issues on 13th gen, the primary symptom is crashing, not performance loss. I do recommend updating the bios still.

[verbal quarry]

Any changes work for me and to answer your question its going to be used for light to heavy gaming, college, and office work.

[manic cloak]

Ya I’m mentioning that but I don’t understand where the 20 FPS went to 😭

[mossy venture]

Can take a look at the two i linked above, but sounds like a 7600x would perform the same as the 7700x for you

[potent portal]

Run hwinfo64 while you play and watch the presentmon stats. It'll tell you whether it's the CPU or the GPU that's waiting more and you can narrow it down.

[mossy venture]

And could drop a 9800x3d in down the line

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QqVT4M

Im01 pro is bigger than the im01 but still fairly small

[manic cloak]

Stress test or do you want me playing an intense game?

[languid nimbus]

ooof i want that 9800x3d

bad

we'll obviously have to see when it comes out but I'm excited to see how the 5090 performs vs. the new amd lineup

planning on going all out with a new build

[manic cloak]

I kinda regret getting intel 😭

I might aswell buy a 7500f/used 7000’s and a used b650 for the price of a z790 atm..

[potent portal]

Whatever it is you're losing fps in. Looks like furmark 2 is what you were talking about.

[plucky timber]

in gaming?

[potent portal]

Yeah

Also of note is the 285K sometimes loses to the 12600K

[mossy venture]

That's hilarious

[jagged ember]

Even in ltt testing it showed that so

Its bad

Hopefully 2nd gen core stuff is much better in performance

Then they start making core Y3D chips

Like x3d but totlly different

[potent portal]

Like how they made chiplets but called them tiles

[manic cloak]

@potent portal sorry for ping but i'm having a few troubles trying to figure out how to navigate around hwinfo64

I managed to get the cpu preset but not the gpu one

[manic cloak]

nvm found presentmon.

This wasn't in full screen cause it kept hidden everytime I wanted it up

[crimson zinc]

What’s the minimum pc that could run this stuff at 1080p 60fps? (I do not need WiFi, and I would like to use an Arc A750)

[manic cloak]

what mods on t loader exactly?

calamity?

[manic cloak]

also are we talking like potato quality or do you want some high/ultra quality for your 1080p/60fps

[crimson zinc]

I used tloader once and I haven’t used it since, so unsure

And just solid quality. Motion blur off, high settings.

I don’t want it to look garbage, but I’m fine with non-super-ultra presets.

[manic cloak]

imo at that point spend your money on a used 6650xt. a750 brand new costs about the same so.

Plus I don't know if a a750 is as consistent as a 6650xt

thing is terraria is horribly optimized

[crimson zinc]

$140 is the lowest I’ve found on an a750

[manic cloak]

like my PC is cranked to 100% each time it opens & I can't find a frame cap

[manic cloak]

i'll research real quick

@crimson zinc You should be able to hit your 1080p 60 FPS with your medium/high settings with the a750, though some games may give you extra troubles some may not. The price is good enough to throw the 6650xt out of the question unless you find it at a very close price, otherwise it's like a 10-20% diff depending on which game with the a750 behind.

easiest build imo is either a cheap 5500/5600 or a 12400F

12600kf if it's on sale at a nice price

[dusky hearth]

Idk what the minimum would be exactly, but my rx570 would likely be able to run all of those games
Though I'm not 100% sure it would be a stable 60, maybe a stable 30 for a few games

Most games are quite light

[manic cloak]

like the 5th image no questions you should exceed your frame rate

just cs2, apex, finals, witcher, warframe, saints row, TCP, and possibly farming sim are your only challengers you'd have to tweak quality with

[still canyon]

I’ve got a r7 3700x, 32gb 3000mhz ram and a 3060 12gb. Yall think there’s even any worthwhile “upgrade” i could make that wouldn’t need an entire system swap? Like the performance upgrade from 3700x to 5700x seems to be a really insignificant boost for games. And as far as I can tell upgrading the Gpu won’t bring much since a lot of games that actually need the Gpu also get bottlenecked by the cpu. Upgrading the ram might be good I’ve heard a lot abt am4 getting a significant yet cheap boost from 3200mhz so maybe I’ll do it.

[dusky hearth]

Upgrading to x3d could be a fair boost, though I think you should upgrade your GPU first if you're gaming

I am honestly somewhat surprised that you're being cpu bottlenecked though with a 3060 though
Well, I also get cpu bottlenecked with the same cpu, but that's only in VR games, and I don't really get anywhere near cpu bottlenecked on most 2d games, even on more cpu heavy ones like beamng

[still canyon]

I get bottlenecked because I play poorly optimized games (worst being star citizen)

[dusky hearth]

💀

[still canyon]

Yeah

[dusky hearth]

Well, in that case, a used 5700x3d should likely be a worthwhile upgrade

That's what I'm also planning on upgrading to

[still canyon]

The x3ds look nice but last I checked they were mad expensive

[dusky hearth]

Though I'm waiting to find a deal that is like under 200 cad

[dusky hearth]

That's why I specified used, you should see them floating around for decent prices, especially if you're in the US

Less good deals up here lol

[still canyon]

I’m the typa person to be paranoid abt used parts. I know that used computer parts are actually normally fairly good deals since they’re harder to “consume” but at the same time it’s just worrying trusting someone like that. In like two years when games actually need more performance ill do it but for now I’ll suffer for the paranoia lmao

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

If it makes you feel any better, your mobo is more likely to die before your cpu

Which is also kinda why some very old cpus can be dirt cheap but the mobos are expensive

[still canyon]

True. I’ve had four die without even one cpu going (all were user error)

[dusky hearth]

Well, I meant due to age, but user error could also be a factor lol

[still canyon]

Even new x3ds are actually a lot cheaper than I remember. Might actually end up doing it lol

[dusky hearth]

Probably because 5000 series is technically 2 generations old at this point

Though 9000 series x3d isn't out yet

But 5000 series, even the non-x3d variants were a fairly big performance jump from our 3000 series due to the improvements in single core performance

And then add a load of extra l3 cache, and alot of games perform quite a bit better compared to something like the 3700x

Like, iirc it was like 25% better on single core from 3700x to 5700x-not3d

Something around that

[sleek dawn]

Hey I am a first time builder and I want to know if my choices are compatible before I start building
Case
https://www.newegg.com/black-be-quiet-pure-base-500-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-0037-000A8?item=2AM-0037-000A8
CPU
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-ryzen-7-5000-series/p/N82E16819113735?item=N82E16819113735
Motherboard
https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-ax-v2-atx-amd-b550-am4/p/N82E16813145248?item=N82E16813145248
Memory
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-64gb-ddr4-3600/p/N82E16820236602?item=N82E16820236602
Graphics card
https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-rtx3080-o10g-v2-gaming/p/N82E16814126525?item=9SIBP4YJZB8850
Power supply
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm750e-cp-9020262-na-750-w-80-plus-gold-certified/p/N82E16817139307?item=N82E16817139307
Storage
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-2tb-990-evo-plus-nvme-2-0/p/N82E16820147900?item=N82E16820147900
CPU cooler
https://www.newegg.com/nzxt-liquid-cooling-kraken-elite-rgb-394mm-intel-lga-1700-1200-115x-amd-socket-am5-am4-strx4-tr4-blk/p/N82E16835146135?item=N82E16835146135
Operating system
https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-windows-11-pro/p/N82E16832351757?item=N82E16832351757

[cyan ravine]

Holy 2022

[jagged ember]

holy god

links galore

[plucky timber]

ok uh

anyone got a pcpp list?

ah screw it just gonna make a new one

[plucky timber]

what is your use case?

are you playing modded games? 3d modelling?

[plucky timber]

I have no idea what you're using the PC for so here's a way most cost effective list optimised for gaming:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JcTxZJ

the list could use some touching up

[fossil cedar]

Probs wouldn't bother with a 5700x these days

Would do this personally
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6nj9jH

[tawny violet]

I think they already have the parts and just want to know if they'll go together

[tawny violet]

They will go together alright if that's what you're interested in

[fossil cedar]

Oof outdated list for sure :/

But yeah compatible

[tawny violet]

just make sure you install the cooler with the tubes pointing the right way to make it last longer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk

[fossil cedar]

Or top mount the radiator if there's room

[tawny violet]

Nope

Not possible with a 360 in that case

already checked

[sleek dawn]

What would be a better setup because Im trying to stream game and graphic design

[jagged ember]

The list pato made

[plucky timber]

^

that'd be more than enough for that use case

[verbal quarry]

What are some of the best budget monitors right now?

[cyan ravine]

XV275U P3

[verbal quarry]

A good second monitor to pair with it?

[cyan ravine]

Tbh almost anything

As long as it runs 💀

Main monitor for games, colour work, high fps etc

Secondary for discord, streams etc

We often suggest just any old extra monitor you may have around

Free 2nd, as long as the 1st is great

[crimson zinc]

That’s what I was thinking.

Like a used 5500 should be the cheapest I could find

[dusky hearth]

Hear me out
Main monitor for discord
Secondary for work

[clear pasture]

i heard artic is a good aio cooler for performace is this true?

[dusky hearth]

yes, but do you even need an aio? air coolers are going to last longer, and should be able to cool most cpus on the market outside of the high end intel ones in a matx or larger case

[plucky timber]

Aren't (good) air coolers close in performance to lower end liquid coolers anyways?

By good air coolers I mean something like a peerless assassin

[mossy venture]

phantom spirit at $38 matches or beats almost any 240mm aio

a good 280/360 will cool better, but not many people need that extra

[plucky timber]

oh damn

I wonder

what if you put an water block on a cpu cooler

[mossy venture]

wat

[plucky timber]

air cooler I mean

[mossy venture]

yeah i dont understand

[plucky timber]

a water block on the base of an air cooler

ok it's probably one of those ideas that's too dumb to be effective

[mossy venture]

ive never used a water block or honestly looked at one beyond a glance

so im not sure

[plucky timber]

someone should test it out

would be very stupid but who knows

[dusky hearth]

they can be better, 360mm aios are ususaly better than the high end air coolers, but 240mm is kinda close, sometimes better, sometimes worse depending on the cooler, as bacca said

[plucky timber]

but generally with how much 240mm cost

kinda eh in value

[dusky hearth]

if i were to guess, it probably wouldnt really make much if any difference, because the limiting factor is usually the heatpipes on the air cooler (which would be in between of where you want to put the water block and the cpu)

[plucky timber]

yeah that's what I thought

probably like one degree cooler

[potent portal]

They have that, it's called a vapor chamber and a lot of GPUs use it

[plucky timber]

oh is that literally what a vapor chamber is

[potent portal]

It works like a heat pipe but more liquid and bigger reservoir

[plucky timber]

wait

Haven't there been vapor chamber air coolers recently?

at least I've seen some tech demos

[potent portal]

For CPUs? Probably at least a couple

The problem is they work best in a specific orientation

[plucky timber]

ah

[dusky hearth]

servers often use vapor chamber heatsinks

but that's easy to do because the cpu is usually laid flat

similar to laptops

because they're in server racks

[potent portal]

Yep you can expect a server to be a specific orientation and form factor

https://youtu.be/wXMcMgrVIxw?si=c81-kX4C5BSM1GeN

[whole inlet]

Hi

@mossy venture

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2RxQ34

[plucky timber]

interesting list

I assume the AIO's for aesthetic purposes

[whole inlet]

Guys, give me your opinion

[plucky timber]

what are you using the pc for?

[whole inlet]

2k play and programming and study

[plucky timber]

"2k"?

you mean 1440p?

[stoic island]

2k resolution or budget

[whole inlet]

yes

[plucky timber]

well if it's just for that

you could get the same or better performance for a lot less

[whole inlet]

send

[plucky timber]

I'm making it rn

[whole inlet]

Ok

[plucky timber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VYdQ34

[stoic island]

dont forget a case

[plucky timber]

oh yeah

you wanna do the case?

I'm not too good at avoiding bad cases

[stoic island]

lancool 207 is pretty cool

[plucky timber]

alright

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tyWRN6

[whole inlet]

I know that the PC assembly is average, but the price is expensive, but it will last with me for a while

[whole inlet]

Change the video card

[stoic island]

and for $2 more you can get a m482 eco pack 2tb, small upgrade but yea

[whole inlet]

Because I like Nvidia

[stoic island]

any specific reason?

[plucky timber]

They're pretty much on par for $200 cheaper

so you're pretty much paying for the brand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3o4sZklnJo&t=505s

[whole inlet]

Imaging software right from Nvidia

[plucky timber]

Imaging software?

[stoic island]

are you talking about ansel or?

[plucky timber]

DLSS?

frame-gen?

[whole inlet]

Yes for Nvidia

[plucky timber]

what are you talking about tho

[whole inlet]

I mean taking snapshots

Fortnite

[plucky timber]

ohhh

you mean shadowplay

[stoic island]

video or screenshot?

for video, AMD has an alternative to shadowplay

[whole inlet]

video

[plucky timber]

AMD's encoder's gotten a lot better since RDNA1

[stoic island]

think they have av1 now

[plucky timber]

unless you're using it for productivity reasons I wouldn't get nvidia just for nvenc or shadowplay

[whole inlet]

Because two years ago there were problems

[plucky timber]

^

[stoic island]

rdna 3 has av1 now

[plucky timber]

They're come a long way in 2 years

Radeon software's not the unstable mess it used to be known for

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fzpsHG

7900xt would be a far better choice though

7600x and 7700x perform within 2% of eachother in games

https://www.ebay.com/itm/387296579461?

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture @manic cloak https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/LGgXsY/entry-level-intel-gaming-build
minus the gpu, this would be a nice a750 build.

[manic cloak]

Case is same length, taller and wider both by 4 inches. Mainly same price with I believe a better PSU? (fact check please w someone else) and you get more RAM + a cooler if needed https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QqChDZ

board is refurbished yes, but like that's the most refurbished motherboard you'll ever see. I'm saying that you're 100% likely just getting a brand new one cause i've seen these on woot/amazon resale, newegg, ebay, everywhere.

[crimson zinc]

It was a good jumping off point
But yeah, this is better

[mossy venture]

cheaper case to do 12400f, but yeah ntb

[crimson zinc]

Wait, isn’t the 12400f more expensive?

[mossy venture]

?

[crimson zinc]

Than the 12100

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hZQHfy

[mossy venture]

yes

$30

but that case is also overpriced

so cheaper case, more expensive cpu

[crimson zinc]

Oh yeah

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7Tc6D

I made this

[mossy venture]

imo id go used cpu before 12100f

4 cores isn't going to hold up very well

theres https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ZFDCd

[analog hearth]

For sure. Ask my gf lol

She has a 12100F

Minecraft struggles a bit when it rains

[mossy venture]

amazon warehouse is worth checking for cpu, psu, mobo, maybe ram and ssd

[crimson zinc]

Don’t the arc cards benefit from intel cpu? Or am I imagining?

[mossy venture]

oh maybe

id still rather a 5700xt to an a750

[serene onyx]

Upgrading from a 6600 and a Ryzen 5 5500

Free ddr4 kit included w the cpu

[crimson zinc]

go ahead and throw me your old stuff, I’ll make it into a robot

[serene onyx]

😭

[crimson zinc]

Are you planning on building a server with them, selling them? Or just letting them sit?

[serene onyx]

Im gonna make another pc build with the old parts and maybe sell it

Or just maybe give it to my gf as a birthday present

[crimson zinc]

I got $12

[serene onyx]

😭

I got you with the cardboard rtx 4090 pc build

[crimson zinc]

[serene onyx]

Will the Ryzen 7 5700x be compatible with my mobo?

It says Ryzen 5000 series

So I’m assuming so

[fiery nova]

is 20c gpu temp as soon as i turn on pc too cold

i might be dumb idk but should i wait for that to warm up before playing games

[whole inlet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2RxQ34

ryzen 7700x
MSI MAG CORELIQUID E360 75.04 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus TUF GAMING B650M-PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard
Rtx 4070 super 12gb
32 ram
power supply 750w

@mossy venture

Is the PC assembly excellent or not?

[mossy venture]

Did we not have this conversation yesterday

7700x and 7600x perform the same in games. An aio is very much not needed, and that aio costs $60-75 more than it should. Corsair is the singular brand to avoid when it comes to ram. Mobo is overpriced.

Sdd is overpriced.

[mossy venture]

.

If you feel the absolute need to have an aio, get the aqua elite v3

[floral delta]

Hi, can anyone help me with my first pc build?

[mossy venture]

sure

budget, country, use case, any aesthetic preference, do you have a microcenter nearby?

[floral delta]

Well I already have all the parts, just having issues booting it

[mossy venture]

ah

what cpu and mobo

[floral delta]

Built it the first time and it would run but, no signal to the monitor

[mossy venture]

and id check ram is fully slotted and all connections

[floral delta]

So I rebuilt now I get a signal to monitor but it turns on the shuts off right after

I have a ryżen 9 5950x I think

And Msi mag b650x tomahawk wifi

[mossy venture]

the 5950x is an am4 cpu

b650 is an am5 motherboard

[floral delta]

Also when I turn it on my cpu cooler flashes red

So they can’t work together?

[mossy venture]

no

not at all

[floral delta]

I mean I bought them from my coworker and it was in his old pc

So it must have worked

[mossy venture]

then its a b550

[floral delta]

Yeah I could be wrong on the numbers

And I checked to see if my power supply and mother board were bad but they seem to run

Also yeah there’s a micro center like 30 min away

[mossy venture]

id try clearing cmos

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[mossy venture]

and make sure all psu connections are secure

and that the psu is on lol

[floral delta]

Ok I’ll try that

At first I thought maybe my psu was bad but i did the paper clip test and it seems to be good

[bitter mason]

@upper condor nice loop. I'd never seen that CPU block. I like it, is one of the ones that replaces the IHS for direct die? my only question is why the long pipe from the top rad instead of going straight to the CPU block so the pipes wouldn't cross lol. For real tho nice job

[upper condor]

It’s not direct die, it’s actually supposed to be a threadripper block from bykski. I tore off some of the upper VRM heatsinks to make it fit lol…you can kinda see but it doesn’t change temps much and lets it fit. I think the cross is because of how the in/out works for it, but honestly I don’t remember too well

[plucky timber]

does it cool the vrms as well?

[upper condor]

Nah, not at all lmao

[plucky timber]

oh

[upper condor]

But it’s the mobo vrms with a 7800x3d

They never go over like 60

[plucky timber]

yeah

As long as you got decent airflow it shouldn't be a problem

[upper condor]

Yeah my temps are perfect. GPU was really bad but I used PTM and fixed all the kinks and now it’s great

[plucky timber]

reminds me when I throttled my gpu with my AIO

I had the AIO mounted on the front of the case because it wouldn't fit on top

And that pretty much cut the gpu off from most of its airflow

[bitter mason]

lol why'd you go with that block? you had it already?

[bitter mason]

PTM?

[upper condor]

Ptm7950, idrk much about it but it’s a phase change material so it can be solid and like a liquid paste. Really good for consistent application in my experience

[bitter mason]

lol this wouldn't work?

[bitter mason]

ah like that honeywell stuff Linus sells?

[upper condor]

Bought all my parts off of Aliexpress, saw it for cheap, thought it’d be cool pretty much

[upper condor]

Yeah that exactly

[bitter mason]

btw not talking crap I just get stingy with tubing lol

[upper condor]

I’d need more rotaries and stuff for that I think

Only had like 2 at the time

[bitter mason]

ah gotcha

[upper condor]

And I could do that without them so I did

[bitter mason]

good flow > saving some tubing

[upper condor]

Then when I rebuilt idk was just lazy and honestly I’m fine with how it looks

[upper condor]

I had like 3 meters or something lmao

[bitter mason]

is that EPDM tubing?

(the generic version of that stuff EK overcharges for, "ZMT")

I've been trying to find a good place to get EPDM tubing from since I first got ZMT

[upper condor]

Yep but it wasn’t EK

https://www.titanrig.com/alphacool-epdm-flexible-tubing-10mm-id-13mm-od-38-id-12-od-3-meter-black-0370ac017001on.html?srsltid=AfmBOopmIPvi2C8htyFH1HSxiDpkwI1PLBOLY5IbStb0OEWyYzNKWQOW

Not this exactly I don’t think

But this website that brand

[manic cloak]

Does anyone know what download manager is?

basically I went away from my system for 2-3 hours, come back and it's an app that just randomly opened.

I don't know what it is and I think it's a virus, idk

I uninstalled it and nothing happened, the last few things I downloaded were furmark & a fancontrol gui to hook up with my gpu so..

[potent portal]

It might have been bundled with other programs. Those aren't usually malicious at least, just not good at what they do.

[analog hearth]

I agree with Fal'Cie. It could just be some adware. Malwarebytes makes a program called "Adwcleaner" that works very well to get rid of stuff like this

But you'd already deleted it so who knows whether it would detect it

also not a bad idea to do a malware scan (I make this sound like a recommendation. Don't think about it; do it)

[cyan ravine]

Been thinking about swapping to malwarebytes

Or maybe an aggressively scripted defender

Looking from something clean but automated

[potent portal]

You can run mwb free alongside defender as needed. You should be able to set a scheduled task to run it on a schedule.

[tawny violet]

At what GPU tier would you consider having a 7800X3D as "mandatory", or at the very least beneficial enough to buy one even if it's actively scalped by AMD as it is right now?

[cyan ravine]

Never

Oh

Actually no

Specifically FPS esports

In that one scenario, not tied to gpu but cpu bound fps

It makes sense

But only if it's cheaper than like a 14700k/f

[tawny violet]

so if I was to mostly play SP games or like MP COD, it's not even that big a deal?

cuz I know for sure that Paradox games absolutely love the cache

[cyan ravine]

Ya not really that big you're right

Only a handful of exceptions like assetto corsa

[tawny violet]

and again, Paradox games

[cyan ravine]

That engine LOVES X3D

It's like

30% win over anything else

Just a complete domination

[tawny violet]

so in most games it doesn't matter that much?

[cyan ravine]

Nope

[tawny violet]

like if you play 1440p with a midrange GPU

[cyan ravine]

Would you even notice 10%?

[tawny violet]

Eeeeeeehhh

It wouldn't hurt

But like

Is it worth spending 40% more money for it?

again outside of PDX, not really probs

[cyan ravine]

Definitely not 40% unless again, the margin is enormous

[vale epoch]

New system?

[cyan ravine]

40% for a 25% win I would consider

[tawny violet]

Yeppers

[main nymph]

is a 4070s with an i5 14600k good

[cyan ravine]

Not a bad general pairing yeah

[vale epoch]

Damn, did a need for a second computer come up? Cuz if u want more performance wouldn’t a gpu upgrade suit you?

[tawny violet]

Ultimately I'm fairly set on going with a 7900 XT

[main nymph]

i put my build in a bottleneck calculator it said i had a 10% bottleneck then i figured out it was bs

[tawny violet]

but whether I should shell out on a 7800X3D is up in the air still

There is something about bottleneck calculators on this server

[main nymph]

most of them are bs

[tawny violet]

I just don't remember the command

[vale epoch]

The only real answer is to wait for the 11800x3d

[tawny violet]

there's a whole copypasta about it lel

[main nymph]

im upgrading my 5 year old pc

[tawny violet]

lmao, fair

[main nymph]

im putting it out of its pain

[tawny violet]

but yes I'm gonna be building a new rig in like

[cyan ravine]

?bottleneck

[jolly river]

"TL;DR Bottleneck calculators take massive generalisations and will cause someone to almost completely miss the entire snapshot of the performance that they wanted to know in the first place.

Bottleneck calculators are a commonly searched tool on the internet to make a generalised comment on a pairing of hardware for things such as games, workstation software, rendering and the like.

Bottlenecks are regarded as a limit for a pc in a given task, and each different workload, each different game, each different task may and will push a pc to a limit in a certain way, and it's never the same way. Some games will push the cpu to a limit, most the GPU, some the ram, etc.

Bottleneck calculators try to generalise this and this is why you should never use them. It isn't a true outlook of the hardware you'd be working with and doesn't give you a real take on the performance, especially when you consider your own individual needs. Some bottlenecks are good for example, a lot are expected and normal, some are caused by the application itself and don't bring out the full pc performance either, the games or apps you use might be very specific and unique in their behaviour and have an entirely different realm of performance altogether."

[tawny violet]

whenever I get my third paycheck

[main nymph]

i feel bad

i want to put it out of its misery

but still

ill miss my build 😭

[mossy venture]

What's your budget for the upgrade?

13600k and 14600k are the same cpu

[main nymph]

i got a good deal on the cpu

[cyan ravine]

How much tho

We're like accountants when it comes to pc building 😂

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/764WYN

[mossy venture]

Not wrong

[main nymph]

like uh

200

for a i5 14600k

[mossy venture]

Nice

[cyan ravine]

Not bad yeah

[main nymph]

yeah i got realtives who sell parts

newegg wished me an eggcelent day tho so thats probably a good sign

[mossy venture]

Smthn like
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qVDPmD

[main nymph]

rip my 1660s tho

retiring after 5 years of service

[cyan ravine]

[main nymph]

i bet u bought daddy

[tawny violet]

And blocked

Actual scumbag

[main nymph]

fr

[cyan ravine]

@obsidian wigeon

[tawny violet]

@obsidian wigeon we have a crypto scammer

[cyan ravine]

Spam

[tawny violet]

also Felix

Food for thought

I guess it's not quite as worth for paradox games as it seemed

[cyan ravine]

?

I don't know who paradox is

[tawny violet]

Swedish game dev

they make a bunch of strategy games like Stellaris

[cyan ravine]

Oh

[tawny violet]

their games are notoriously CPU bound because of the myriad of calculations

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[tawny violet]

so their stuff is where you'd expect the X3D chips to shine the most

and yet the 9700X is faster than a 7800X3D

which is surprising but ultimately factual

[main nymph]

What do yall think of the 4060

[tawny violet]

Just no

[cyan ravine]

ACC, Factorio, Rust

Those are the 3 key games I recall that leverage X3D really well

[tawny violet]

Ye Factorio is one of the big wins for X3D

[cyan ravine]

Nothing else afaik

[tawny violet]

I suppose if you're a Factorio youtuber then it makes sense cuz you literally make money with it

but even then

[mossy venture]

Horrid value

Itd be okay at $200

[fickle crane]

Does it make sense for me to upgrade from 16 gb ram to 32 gb ram running 3600 ddr4

My ram is my bottleneck rn i think

[cyan ravine]

Sure

Go used tho imo

Ddr4 isn't really worth it new anymore unless you go like, really low end

And make sure it's a complete kit, so like, 4x8gb or 2x16gb as one set

Don't mix old and new, or g.skill with corsair

Those are the highest common denominators for ram problems

[flint sapphire]

Nah just mix the ram it’ll be fine

[rain carbon]

and make sure your ram has rabies

[crimson zinc]

And broken pins

[jagged ember]

Hole punch them

Like a golf ball speed holes

[dusty coyote]

Fellas. I am a man of many pc issues out of nowhere.

Two main issues. On my PC with a gigabyte 4070Ti, 32GB of ram, 7900X cpu, and an Asus B650E-F Wifi, (if I remember correctly), all my games are crashing out of nowhere. I can play for like five minutes on halo wars 2, then boom crash, I can play for about the same amount of time on every game I have except halo MCC and they all crash. Halo MCC doesn’t crash (or hasn’t yet) but I get random aggressive frame drops for a split second. Almost feels like lag basically.
That’s my first issue

Second issue is I have a pc I’m working on and the fans don’t light up even though they’re supposed to, but the pc turns on, however it doesn’t display anything.

[dusky hearth]

game crashing? or windows crashing?

if it's just the game, i'll probably reinstall gpu drivers with ddu

2nd issue, make sure the rgb is connected properly into the right header, though the no display is a bit more of a bigger priority
i would clear cmos on it, and make sure that you're plugged into the gpu
or if you're plugged into the gpu, and your cpu has an igpu, then try plugging into the mobo to see if it's the gpu that has an issue (if your build has a pcie riser cable, those commonly have issues)

also check to make sure that you dont have any debug leds lit

[dusty coyote]

Unfortunately this motherboard doesn’t have any debug LEDs and I don’t have the little speaker to hear the beeps either sadly. I’m hoping it’s nothing major. I’m going to tear it down one piece of hardware at a time and see what I can figure out.

Also I heard about the DDU, where would I download the DDU?

[dusky hearth]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[dusky hearth]

Should be a download link in there

[dusty coyote]

Thank you so so much!!!

[cyan ravine]

Spunds like a dead ram chip potentially

'EY

@wide sparrow

WAT U DOIN SPEAKIN IN THE #build-pics

[wide sparrow]

[wide sparrow]

Mod privilege

[cyan ravine]

.ban @wide sparrow

[wide sparrow]

Fine. I remembered it. Smh

[cyan ravine]

If it wasn't for me being unusually selective with the rules we'd be anarchy by now

[analog smelt]

Quite new to pc building, what kind of gaming pc could I get for roughly 900GBP? I have this build right now but I am wondering if there is anything I should change

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/IceyMan346/saved/#view=CrPyxr

[mossy venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/YBFTwY

imo

[analog hearth]

@manic mango hardest thing I’ve seen in a build

[dusty coyote]

Hey the DDU didn’t fix the issue. Any other ideas? I’ve reset my pc completely and it didn’t help either. Fresh install of windows, I’m just not sure.
I’m stumped

[dusty coyote]

It could be. It is new ram. Could have been defective.

[cyan ravine]

Go here
https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

Run this test

Load up "Anta777 Extreme"

Run it for 3 cycles

It'll have around 15 tests not the basic 5

Reset btw is not a complete reinstall, it can retain the reigstry which can be corrupted

[dusty coyote]

Dang. They just have to be difficult lol. Thank you so much for the help! I will give that test a look!

[cyan ravine]

All good

[tawny violet]

@manic mango That looks amazing in #build-pics

[full elk]

What’s a good AM5 cpu to replace a AM4

I’m thinking of doing a rebuild during Black Friday

[mossy venture]

7600x, gigabyte b650m gaming wifi, and 32gb ddr5 are $330 off newegg

And cpu comes with a free ssd

[manic mango]

7600x is already two years old though

[mossy venture]

At $330 that's insane value, 7600x is fine for a 7900xt or comparable at 1440p

And gives you an upgrade path to 9800x3d or similar

Considering the cheapest new gen intel cpu is $320, I'm taking the $330 bundle any day of the week lol

[rain carbon]

Its an insane bundle and youd be insane to think it isnt

[serene onyx]

Hey guys

I just upgraded cpu on pc

It’s not booting

Into w11

Anymore

It keeps only booting into bios

I updated the bios

Still not booting into w11

Help please

I wanna hurry up and leave

Can someone hop in a call and help

New cpu is in

Bios updated

Not booting into w11 anymore

Hello

Anyone

🙁

@mossy venture

@obsidian wigeon

Sorry for pinging but I need help

😞

This pc has given me hell since day 1 of being built

[rain carbon]

😭

Good luck man

[serene onyx]

Bro 😭

HELP ME

[mossy venture]

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[rain carbon]

Idk how

[mossy venture]

try that first

[serene onyx]

Clear cmos?

Then boot?

[potent portal]

Windows might not like having a different TPM with the CPU swap

[serene onyx]

Tpm is off

[mossy venture]

also worth asking, what cpu and mobo

and what cpu were you on

[potent portal]

Well it's a requirement for W11 so

[mossy venture]

you might need to update to an older version of bios, then another newer version? though then i dont think itd boot to bios

im tired

[serene onyx]

Ryzen 5 5500 is the old one new cpu is Ryzen 7 5700x mobo is asus tuf A520m-plus WiFi

So what do I do? Do I reset cmos then restart the pc?

[potent portal]

Yes

[serene onyx]

Ok

On it

[potent portal]

With the latest bios version the default settings should be the correct ones to boot W11 but it might not have reset correctly when you updated

[serene onyx]

Ah ok

[potent portal]

Especially if tpm is off since it defaults to on as a prerequisite for W11, along with secure boot

[serene onyx]

I had to turn off both just to download w11 on this pc I believe but popping out the cmos now

[potent portal]

That doesn't sound right since both are hard requirements and it won't let you install without them (unless you bypass it manually)

[serene onyx]

I had too bypass it manually

For tpm

Cause it was being stubborn and saying it doesn’t meet requirements

Ok put CMOs back in

Turning it on

Still only booting into bios

No w11

[potent portal]

What was the old bios version

[serene onyx]

No idea

I forgot which version

When I built it I had to update it just for it to work

[potent portal]

Around what date was it installed then

[serene onyx]

And bypass

It was earlier this year

2024

[potent portal]

If the old version was prior to August 2021 then it wouldn't have supported W11 out of the box, but newer shouldn't have needed any tweaks to install at all

[serene onyx]

It needed heavy tweaks

It was refusing to boot into w11

It was refusing to even boot into bios

When I made it

[potent portal]

Which leads me to believe the install was always scuffed from the start

[serene onyx]

I had to flash it

Using the button

So what do I do?

[potent portal]

Reinstall Windows

[serene onyx]

Crap

Ok

[potent portal]

With TPM and secure boot and all that enabled

[serene onyx]

I was really hoping I didn’t have to do this

Damnit

Ok

Well crap

Guess I have too

This pc has been pain since the start

Ok let’s hope it works

[potent portal]

If it still tells you the pc doesn't meet requirements then next we'll check if the drive you're trying to install to is GPT format or MBR

Secure boot will straight up refuse to work on MBR

Because of the EFI partition

[serene onyx]

Ah ok

Well I will try

So theirs nothing I can do then

[potent portal]

Well, if it is MBR then you can convert the drive but it needs to be wiped first since it's not booting

[serene onyx]

Alright

Crap

It is in fact

Move

Mbr

[potent portal]

What told you that

[serene onyx]

I checked the info on the drive

It said it was MBR

I wiped it

Reformatted

Reinstalling windows now.

Crap man.

This sucks so much

[potent portal]

When you get to the installer and you get to the "where to install windows" screen you'll hit shift+F10 to bring up command prompt, then
diskpart
list disk
select disk X [replace X with the correct disk number]
clean
convert gpt

You'll get a blank drive then with GPT format to select when you close command prompt

[serene onyx]

Oh

Well crap it’s already done installing w11

[potent portal]

In that case you're fine

[serene onyx]

Al I did was click reformat and it did it

Ight

[potent portal]

Maybe they improved the install script a bit

[serene onyx]

Probably

BRO IT RESTORED ITSELF

I WAS CONTINUING WITH THE W11 setup AND IT GOT TO A PART SAYING “we found a backup from your previous pc” AND It restored EVERYTHING

LETSSS GOOO

I LOVE W11

[potent portal]

Yep it'll back up settings to your microsoft account, and your user folders to your onedrive by default

[jagged ember]

But also ew onedrive

[serene onyx]

Yeah

Anyways

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JqKp9C

Is the mobo and nvme good?

Everything on the list

I already have

Except the Mobo, and the NVME

I don’t have those yet

[potent portal]

NV2 does have some issues, mostly inconsistency because they swap parts around

[serene onyx]

https://a.co/d/izz7R0l

I was thinking of getting this one

[serene onyx]

?

Is that drive and the vdh pro WiFi mobo good?

[potent portal]

The original model of the NV2 was good and got good reviews, but they got cheap and greedy and decided to use cheaper, worse NAND and controllers without changing the model name

[serene onyx]

Oh

[potent portal]

The motherboard is pretty basic, lemme check if it even has PCIe 4.0

[serene onyx]

Thank you

It’s just an extra pc I’m making I’m probably gonna sell it cause it’s made using extra parts I have laying around

[potent portal]

Alright it does have PCIe 4.0 so it'll work at full speed with the P3 Plus, which is a good drive

[serene onyx]

Ok good

So it’s a good mobo?

[potent portal]

I wouldn't call it good

It's passable for a low end CPU

[serene onyx]

It’s bear minimum good

Yeah sounds appropriate

[potent portal]

Yep a 5500 would be fine on it

[serene onyx]

I might upgrade my brothers cpu using the spare 5500 and just use the 3300 he has

For this build

Free upgrade for him

[jagged ember]

Performs better for longer writes if there's more empty space

But its a nice drive

[faint lily]

I would like to purchase a laptop for making a 2d game for mobile in unity, what cpu and gpu should I aim for, which will give me a decent experience?

idk if that's the appropriate channel, sry :3

[dusky hearth]

Nearly anything

An igpu would be better than a mobile phone's GPU

Just get anything with a 12th gen or newer cpu, or ryzen 5000 or newer cpu

[serene onyx]

https://a.co/d/0UZtJpa

Will this be compatible with a Ryzen 5 3300??

I just placed the order and I forgot to even check or make sure.

Can someone let me know so I know to cancel the order or not 😅

[cyan ravine]

Should be

Though I would hope not a new 3300

Cos used and new 5500's cost nothing

[serene onyx]

It’s a used 3300

It’s my brothers

I got a spare 5500, and put it in his system and now I’m gonna use his 3300 for a new build

Just wanted to make sure it would work with the mobo

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KcyH99/asrock-b450mac-r20-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450mac-r20

id just grab that imo

[plucky timber]

B550 should be compatible with most early zen 2 out of the box

[serene onyx]

Ok good

[serene onyx]

Damn I wish I found this one before I ordered the other mobo

I might cancel and get this one

Cheaper

[plucky timber]

and it's got more vrm heatsinks

[mossy venture]

the msi one is better

[plucky timber]

oh really?

[mossy venture]

just don't need even the b450 tier perf for a 3300

[plucky timber]

oh wait

oh yeah it's a b550 compared to b450

nvm I'm stupid

[mossy venture]

it also has overall worse features

[serene onyx]

So the one I already purchased is better?

[cyan ravine]

If reselling get the cheaper

[plucky timber]

It's better but

[cyan ravine]

If using go vdh imo

[plucky timber]

you're putting a ryzen 3 in it

if you're flipping it

I'd say save the b550 for something better or go for a cheaper board

[serene onyx]

Ight I’m that case I’ll cancel and get the other one

Cause it’s a pc made using spare parts

[plucky timber]

flip?

[serene onyx]

I’m gonna sell it

Yeah

[plucky timber]

yeah not worth

[serene onyx]

Ok I’ll buy this one then

[plucky timber]

I mean even a bios updated b350 would do

[serene onyx]

Understandable

[plucky timber]

not that you can find any these days

[serene onyx]

True

lol

Ok doing that

[plucky timber]

I miss flipping rigs tbh

and good used markets

[mossy venture]

amazon warehouse prolly has some even cheaper options too

[plucky timber]

I remember in January I flipped a pc with a haswell xeon

bought a 1080 and chucked it in there

all because I wanted to get rid of a case

total build was like

$200

barely made a profit off it because

xeon

[serene onyx]

This current build is 200$

[plucky timber]

ooo

[serene onyx]

Well 220$ plus tax

[plucky timber]

what gpu does it have

[serene onyx]

6600

[plucky timber]

that should be better than a 1080 right?

[serene onyx]

Yes

[plucky timber]

not bad

[serene onyx]

Oh yeah

I picked up a brand new case un opened and a psu for 30

[plucky timber]

tbh the only reason the build was $200 was because I was unwilling to cheap out on the psu

which in hindsight

[serene onyx]

Together

[plucky timber]

kinda stupid for a flip

I could've found a used cx or rmx

[serene onyx]

Yeah 😅

[plucky timber]

🤷‍♂️

[serene onyx]

Lmao

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-B550-PRO-ProSeries-Motherboard/dp/B089CZSQB4/ref=mp_s_a_1_92?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.i4EHnFSsR47HvWO2TXTL60q6Z9YZ7ILjEku_P5f-E80Hqu3BUm9Nxe7IVfXDSUw2Ytkc5Yz-O16y6Z5YP5rzDc0iSc9BO0wma10CwdLTpblDvK8Q_kFA9wY6Kt--PXv3_HFqPIei3ZqhEl7HmgSjLF7RyEj86JujEViKdC8k8A8.FrjNu2CB-zFz3YAgxfmg-vuPyFP4914HJ4dxBOz1wpA&dib_tag=se&m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&pf_rd_i=10158976011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=3a7aa31b-b4e3-4010-92ab-d4794868ffb6&pf_rd_r=JR4V2CQ7K23AKXW1G8RQ&pf_rd_s=mobile-hybrid-5&pf_rd_t=30901&qid=1730676817&rnid=193870011&s=warehouse-deals&sr=8-92

Sorry for long link

Amazon warehouse

[plucky timber]

try cutting it off at the question mark

[serene onyx]

Sadly that mobo is too big for the case

🙁

[mossy venture]

ah alr

[plucky timber]

wait what the hell

why is amazon green

[serene onyx]

I got lucky with the parts I got

Christmas

[plucky timber]

ohhh

[serene onyx]

Yes it’s weird

[plucky timber]

in early November?

[serene onyx]

We’re 2 months out basically

Yeah it’s weird

They already have the holiday deals section

[serene onyx]

canceled order on other motherboard, bought the cheaper one

[muted shore]

Pls recommend a small pc for data work that doesn't need to be opened for next 5 years

With huge storage

16gb ram

[analog hearth]

Any Beelink PC. Add whatever storage you want. Reinstall Windows (or whatever OS you want) if needed

[crimson zinc]

^

[clear pasture]

thoughts on the MSI MPG A1000G PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 Gaming Power Supply

[plucky timber]

Should be solid

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

It's speculated to be A tier on the tier list

should be somewhere between A and B

[dusty coyote]

Hey guys weird…. Maybe very weird question. I just removed a cpu from my buddies pc and when I lifted up the clip, there were tiny bugs LIVING under the cpu clip. Someone tell me what the actual FRICK that was? Lolllll

[mossy venture]

That's uhhh-

Im just gonna move on from that and pretend I didn't read it

[potent portal]

Got a pic? Could be several things. I've even heard of ants eating thermal pads.

[plucky timber]

does he ever clean his room

[dusty coyote]

Oh goodness!
I didn’t think to get a picture but if I find another one that I may have missed when trying to get them, I’ll get one. His room is always clean and he cleans it religiously. Of all people, he shouldn’t have an issue from that lollll

[plucky timber]

that's really weird then

has the pc been placed somewhere damp and wet

like a garage or basement

[dusty coyote]

It hasn’t. It’s been on his desk since I built it for him

This one was I. The graphics card

[plucky timber]

yikes

[vale epoch]

Bugs get attracted to electronics either due to the heat it gives off or from adhesives which have starches they can ingest as food, also is his room cold? In colder months insects tend to go anywhere warm and they might have seen your friend’s pc as a prime nesting spot

[potent portal]

Light can also be an attracting factor for bugs, if there's lots of RGB

It's hard to tell what kind of bug that is from that in motion shot

[dusty coyote]

He said it definitely gets cold at night so the nesting spot makes sense

[dusky hearth]

that's a bug

https://youtu.be/zPJsscHHAsg

[plucky timber]

a literal computer bug

[dusty coyote]

Yes sir! Lol

[dusty coyote]

Figured out the issue with his PC. The bugs crawled into the power supply and fried the power supply.

[dusky hearth]

💀

the bug felt the might of zeus

[potent portal]

I guess you could say the PSU had some bugs to work out

[jagged ember]

ZEEUUUSSS!! YOUR SON HAS RETURNED!

[upper ore]

Why would my gpu only getting .4ms when i run the shadow of war benchmark? Ive had to move my pc around a few times due to 2 back to back hurricanes hitting me. Could something gone wrong?

Something feels wrong because when i bring up the task manager it says only 16% of it is being used max

[potent portal]

What even is that program

And I'm guessing your monitor is 165Hz so you probably have vsync on

[upper ore]

Its the benchmark on a game

[potent portal]

Lower is better for frame times

[jagged ember]

I'm pretty sure shadow of war is an RTS game isn't it

I am immediately less sure after sending that kekw

[upper ore]

More along the lines of an rpg

[upper ore]

So having 0.4ms for gpu is a good thing? I havent played this game or anything in awhile so im alittle out of the loop and have forgotten alot

[potent portal]

Yes, that means 0.4ms of the total render time was from the GPU being busy

[jagged ember]

I mean if you think about it if the gpu takes 0.4ms to render

[potent portal]

Most of it was from the CPU running simulations

[jagged ember]

I'd say that's good

If it was 100ms I would be massively concerned