building-and-recc-chat

[manic cloak]

Your PSU is the prestige - Not bad from what it’s listed as a C tier.

[little osprey]

not bad

which one

@manic cloak

[manic cloak]

Demo

Only the few one

Free

[little osprey]

alright its downloading

and you said run Timespy on it?

@manic cloak

i see timespy

so far so good

alright

@manic cloak

[manic cloak]

Sorry I want here

Wasn’t

[little osprey]

u gud

[manic cloak]

Did you do the whole thing?

[little osprey]

so...it good?

should've been yeah

[manic cloak]

Let me see something

CPU score looks off

[little osprey]

is it

[manic cloak]

Can you look into the cpu

Or did you close it off?

[little osprey]

no its still open

[manic cloak]

Open it up and look into all of CPU

[little osprey]

this?

[manic cloak]

Weirdly enough it’s fine.. 😭

Apparently the avg score for the 5800x3d is 7500

[little osprey]

huh...its way passed that

[manic cloak]

Although below some other averages

Like looking at this

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/nvdia-4070-ryzen-7-5800x3d-timespy-score.3847818/

Your score is in the acceptable range.

[little osprey]

hmm

[manic cloak]

Your fans did go to max speed during the test right?

[little osprey]

should be

[manic cloak]

Doesn’t show fan curve sadly

But I got a feeling it’s just yourCPU getting really hot and shutting off

I don’t know how to figure out what your issue is sadly

[little osprey]

Hmmmm

would be odd if that was the case tho

because it's not that it's shutting off smoothly.....it's just brutal

[sacred obsidian]

I mean just download HWinfo and watch it to see if it's going above operating temps

it shows temps of all the components

if you have dual screens, it's a bit easier, but you could play in windowed mode with the hwinfo client next to it if you dont

[little osprey]

I have plenty of stuff like that.....but keep in mind, it happens even when my PC is starting up (sometimes). It shouldn't be hot

tho i never really pay attention to them

[sacred obsidian]

I would think, without looking to deep into it cause I don't have time, that it's either a PSU issue or a short somewhere

[little osprey]

idk how to tell tho

cpu temps always seem to be normal for me

[sacred obsidian]

you can pull the PC out and go as barebones as you can with it out of the case and stress test it that way. Stress test as in doing what you were doing while it was working and see if it is happening still.

make sure every cable is properly seated and connected

PSU only way I know how to test is to try a different PSU and see if the issue remains

could also be some kinda driver conflict but I wouldn't know how to sus that out

but the pc turning off with the fans going on blast sounds like an overheating problem

so I would start with monitoring temps

specifically the CPU

[little osprey]

looking at it rn

so far so good

between 70⁰C - 75⁰C

[sacred obsidian]

I think safe temps is technically up to 90 degrees

[little osprey]

right

[potent portal]

That's tjmax on a 5800X3D so yes

[potent portal]

I've seen a bad cpu or memory cause this

Motherboard could be too

[muted patio]

Fans going full blast is just a system hang/crash

[potent portal]

...

wait

Is that you

ALL THESE YEARS

[muted patio]

Long story

But ye

[potent portal]

Wow, I never got any real answers before. It's like you up and disappeared.

[muted patio]

But for this person, need to check event viewer to see the cause of the crash, fans are just a result of system crash and software not controlling them anymore

WhoCrashed is a great application for checking system crashes/BSOD's

To find the offending driver

[muted patio]

I did, I'll DM you

[muted patio]

Temps are fine, GPU fan speed is a bit all over the place in Timespy but it's fine too. I'd recommend grabbing WhoCrashed and running it to see what driver is causing your sytem crashes

I'm gonna brag a bit, 3700x and a 3070 OC. 😉

[jagged ember]

Holy God it's vintage

Hope you're doin well man

[little osprey]

sheesh....for such old parts?

[muted patio]

This was a few years ago but yes, still rocking the 3070. That was on air too. You can push things if you dabble a bit!

But really, download and run WhoCrashed to see the cause of your system hangs

[muted patio]

I don't recognize your name, did you change it?

[jagged ember]

I must have since you were still active lol

[muted patio]

Only been like 3 years

[jagged ember]

I think it was fluffyshadowman before

[muted patio]

AHA! That one I do remember. 🙂

[jagged ember]

Back when Mike was admin HAHA

But yeah man I hope you've been doing alright

[muted patio]

I'll DM, don't wanna clog this up

[little osprey]

Is that on steam or sum

[muted patio]

https://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed

[little osprey]

thank

am i supposed to do anything here or is this is?

[muted patio]

Click the green Analyze button

Results will show in the bottom part of the window

[manic cloak]

Excited to see what happens

Cause I’m really wondering what’s up with the pc

[muted patio]

Well, running 4 sticks of RAM with a 5800X3D is known to cause problems

[manic cloak]

Also I just hit a new idle temp of 37 degrees with a hotspot of 45 😔

[muted patio]

Especially if they aren't a 4 matched stick set from the same kit

Ryzen is picky about that, especially about 4 sticks and the QOL list.

[manic cloak]

Hopefully cyber power isn’t that dumb

[muted patio]

It's also DDR4-2400 which is a bit slow but that shouldn't crash

[potent portal]

Wouldn't put it past them at all

[manic cloak]

Wait his ram is 2400?

[muted patio]

Ya

[manic cloak]

Wth

[little osprey]

sooo is this something it tells me once it does crash?

[muted patio]

4xDDR4 2394

It should pick up previous crashes and display them in the same window, scroll down

[manic cloak]

Hmm

I would like to see the event hub is device manager too tbh

[muted patio]

Or Maximize the window so you can see everything

[manic cloak]

See if that picks up anything

[muted patio]

Interesting. how many times has the fan speed gone maxed and system rebooted?

[potent portal]

Hard crashes with no errors are fun. Typically memory or storage issues in my experience.

[manic cloak]

Let’s start off with basics honestly

[little osprey]

it doesn't reboot. the only way to stop of from sounding like a jet engine and turning it back on is if I flick the power switch off and on again

[manic cloak]

Command prompt and do the windows corruption detect

[muted patio]

So it's a hard crash then

[little osprey]

i guess

[muted patio]

That's a hard crash, not a driver or Windows. Either BIOS or hardware

[manic cloak]

Nvm

[little osprey]

well it happens quite often

[manic cloak]

Hmm could it possible be bios software?

[muted patio]

Possibly. Can you please give me make and model number of the PC?

Or a link to where you bought it works too

[little osprey]

ive also noticed how almost every time i shutdown my PC for the day, the RGB lights stay on but the fans stop spinning...also having me flick the switch

[manic cloak]

He’s customized it so it’s not exact

[manic cloak]

I assume he went on their website and did the upgrade option right?

[muted patio]

This can be normal, some BIOS has a function for the RGB to stay on until PSU is off, my system does this

[sacred obsidian]

rgb on the mobo or on the fans and gpu as well? my mobo lights stay on

[little osprey]

fans

[muted patio]

What motherboard is it?

[little osprey]

a GIGABYTE B550 UD AC ATX w/ WIFI 802.11, 1 Gigabit LAN, 5 PCIe x16, 4 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe

[muted patio]

Press Windows key + R and type msinfo32 and tell me the bios version pls.

THe line is "BIOS Version/Date"

[little osprey]

My PC is actually off rn....Im heading to work 😬

[muted patio]

Ah, no worries.

[little osprey]

but ill definitely keep y'all posted

[muted patio]

The link for the bios version is here: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B550-UD-AC-rev-12/support#support-dl-bios

If it's older than FD, it needs updated

[muted patio]

Also, when or after you check the BIOS version, please check the RAM make and model as well. Not a lot of 4 stick kits in the QVL list. Need to look at that also.

[little osprey]

alright, thanks

[muted patio]

Your DM's are closed lol

[jagged ember]

Huh

Bruh mine are open in my settings

Lemme toggle

[jagged ember]

Should be good now

[muted patio]

Ya nah lol

[jagged ember]

The hell

Okay I've opened every setting I can for dms kekw

If this still doesn't work discord is once again garbage s

[little osprey]

F5D is my current version

I remember discussing this on
#gaming message

[muted patio]

F5D? Not on the list. Is it a Cyberpower motherboard?

[cyan ravine]

F5D sounds like a gigglebit bios name

My own x570 is on like F4D rn

[muted patio]

Yeah but the support site for the mobo doesn't list F5D, just Fc, Fd, etc

[cyan ravine]

F4C?

F6E

Oh I see

[muted patio]

Even the BIOS file name is just FD

[cyan ravine]

No the website collated them

[muted patio]

I dl'd and checked

B55UDAC2.FD

[cyan ravine]

Yeah they used to have F#D not just FD

The number implying a patch/revision

Seems they moved to a new format

FGa i.e F1G

[muted patio]

Did you add any RAM sticks to this PC?

[little osprey]

No. It's been with the same (8x4) that it's been having

[muted patio]

Has this been an issue from day one or after a change you made?

[balmy lake]

Hey yall, I am going to upgrade my Zen 3 to a Zen 4. Any MB reccs?

[sacred idol]

i have the z490 p board and am using the 2080 super... would it be beneficial to upgrade or is that about the best i can get for the board?

i have looked it up and what i have seen i can put a 3070 or 3080 but what i have been reading it says its not much of a gain... wasnt sure what you guys think from experience

[dusky hearth]

What cpu though

[sacred idol]

i7 10700k

Overview
Computer model: ASUS System Product Name
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (10.0, Build 19045)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700K CPU @ 3.80GHz 8/16
Motherboard: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. PRIME Z490-P
RAM: 48 GB

[dusky hearth]

Huh another 48gb ram user lmao

[sacred idol]

man i had 16 so i just bout 2 16 gb sticks and added them lol

[dusky hearth]

With the 2080, what is your cpu utilization in your games

[sacred idol]

i planned on upgrading the 2 8 sticks later lol

[crimson zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-pc-ram-johnny-mnemonic-gif-7310302748509028834

[dusky hearth]

Real

Downloadmoreram.com

[sacred idol]

im new to all this lol like i said the pc came with 2 8gb sticks so i bought 2 t force 16gb and added them

[mossy venture]

Any gpu is compatible with a z490

[dusky hearth]

^ but I'm worried that you might get cpu limited

[mossy venture]

The thing is, any gpu above say a 3080/4070 or equivelany would be very cpu limited

Assuming 1440p, 1080p would be lower than those two

Personally with a 2080, I would suggest a cpu/mobo/ram upgrade first

[sacred idol]

from what i was reading the 2080 super is a powerhouse but wasnt sure if it would be worth upgrading or not

[dusky hearth]

personally, i dont really think there is really a need to upgrade everything yet; i feel like your system should still be able to run anything you throw at it at least half decently

is there anything you're struggling to run currently?

[sacred idol]

the most demanding game i think i have played is star citizen and it ran great

[dusky hearth]

yeah not much point in upgrading then lmao

just save your money for a future build

[sacred idol]

but with that i think it was running at between 70 to 80%

[vague oracle]

buy a 4090

[dusky hearth]

not even using 100% of your hardware smh

[sacred idol]

i always put the graphics settings to the highest lol

and im running at 250hz

well my monitor is 250 max but i get the notifications aafter games end saying i hit a max of like 3 something

[mossy venture]

It's about equal to a 3060 ti or 4060 ti

[mossy venture]

1080p 250hz I'd imagine

[sacred idol]

1440

its an msi monitor hdr

[mossy venture]

250hz on a 1440p monitor is rare lol, normally it's 240 or 260

I would wait a month or so for 9000 series cpus, and hop to am5

And then upgrade your gpu down the line, new gens are coming out end of this year/early next year I believe

[sacred idol]

yeah my second monitor is a sceptre and its 1080 at 240 but the msi is 1440 at 250

[crimson zinc]

3060ti

2080ti is the one near the 4060ti

[mossy venture]

2080 ti matches the 3070

4060 ti and 3060 ti perform the same

[crimson zinc]

Hm

[crimson zinc]

My chart is wrong

[visual sun]

so what would you guys recommend to do to make a build to sell using these parts

3060 12gb ventus 3x, 32gb crucial ballistic, 650w super nova evga, probably a arctic 240 2 as well

[visual sun]

3060 12 gig outperforms 3070

[dusky hearth]

heavily depends on what you're running

or rather, only on applications that need more than 8gb vram

[visual sun]

minecraft....

[mossy venture]

Uhhhh...

Ok

[visual sun]

how much do u think is a reasonable amount to spend on a build to sell with these parts as a start tho?

and recomendations?

i was thinking going for a compact and semi portable build

itx or Micro atx

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/84k8DZ

Oh mitx is doable

And could def do a better cpu

What supernova model

[visual sun]

i have a open budget its just a mater of what would it add value to the buyer

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WDLTKNM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08WTFG5BX?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083TSLDF2?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WSDLRVP?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

the cpu cooler is only if i replace my current one with the newer model

[mossy venture]

I'd say this then
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H9YwdH

[mossy venture]

What's your current cpu?

[visual sun]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0815Y8J9N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[cyan ravine]

Where did you see this...?

[mossy venture]

I'd just grab this for the new build
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zrP8TW/thermalright-assassin-spirit-120-evo-689-cfm-cpu-cooler-as120-evo

[visual sun]

ive tested

the extra vram is needed

[mossy venture]

In vanilla minecraft?

[cyan ravine]

I'm guessing you mean modded which is an edge case

[mossy venture]

No texture packs nothing?

[visual sun]

i want to use a closed loop

[cyan ravine]

Edge ≠ whole picture

[visual sun]

not realy anymore and yes modded

[mossy venture]

Hold up

For your build or the resale

[cyan ravine]

If you put that the 3060 is faster in the article... you'll raise some eyebrows lad

[dusky hearth]

fr

in most games 3070 would beat the 3060 lmao

[mossy venture]

The blanket statement of "the 3060 12 gig outperforms 3070" is just false

[visual sun]

resale

[visual sun]

i was just saying in reference to the above comment

[dusky hearth]

most people i know arent playing modded minecraft, or at least that's not the only game they play

[mossy venture]

Isn't archimedes air ships infamous for being buggy

[visual sun]

ik the 3070 is faster on lower loads

[mossy venture]

Unless that's a diff mod

[visual sun]

not that mod

[vale epoch]

Cleaned up the cables today

[dusky hearth]

iirc that mod has been dead since 1.7.4

or smth

[mossy venture]

Nahh

[vale epoch]

This is before

[mossy venture]

It was remade in 1.14 or 1.16, smthn like that

[dusky hearth]

or at least the original dev? idk, i dont use that mod lmao

[visual sun]

anyway do u thing a higher end build is worth it for resale?

[dusky hearth]

the more expensive the build, the harder it is to sell as one piece

especially used

[cyan ravine]

Not quite right either, it's faster by a mile in anything where the vram is not over 7.5gb

[visual sun]

might wind up keeping it as a mobile rig tbh

[cyan ravine]

Big mile

It's better to say it as an edge case. I would agree in modded minecraft specifically as modding often involves a lot of vram

[visual sun]

minecraft and building games are all i play XD

that and cad work

[cyan ravine]

that's fine, for those things it makes sense

[mossy venture]

Grab the z20 plus, d30, or an im01 variant

[cyan ravine]

But better to cover this now as putting weird statements in articles for sale will challenge people to lowball or stay away

[visual sun]

and thats the market of the resale build i think aswell

[cyan ravine]

It undermines a genuine article

[dusky hearth]

you want to focus it on a broader audience or you'll never be able to sell it ☠️

[cyan ravine]

You could say things like "12gb vram! Lasts longer!" But I wouldn't say anything to do with 3070

[visual sun]

ik a few in the same area as me that i think ill sell it to

[visual sun]

not planning to

[cyan ravine]

Good

[visual sun]

and is am5 worth it anyway?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[visual sun]

if i were to just rebuild my rig

the 16 core has 4.2mhz tho

[cyan ravine]

Intel is on the britches rn if you consider any of their K processors over i5

[dusky hearth]

clock speeds dont really matter

[cyan ravine]

Massive architecture degradation

[visual sun]

im debating rebuilding my rig but i just got more ram for it 🥲

any small cases that will fit a full sized atx board?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089CQFHHZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

if i were to swap it for am5

[cyan ravine]

There's a few

Though most of the really good choices these days are shifting to mATX

Like DAN A3, D31, IM01/Pro etc

There's still decent ATX choices

XT Pro

Air 903, sky two

All that's coming to my memory atm

[visual sun]

i kinda want to go for a am4 motherboard

for resale

[dusky hearth]

oh you're currently deciding on what to build for the resale

[visual sun]

yes but also if swaping to am5 on my rig and just using that board and cpu is better

would have 96gigs of ddr4 on it then

and id need new ddr5 64 ram

also the resale rig would be stuck with a full sized atx board

[dusky hearth]

tbh

if you only have a gpu, ram, psu, and cooler

just sell them seperately

you're likely to sell each part for more than a whole build

[visual sun]

i have a windows key aswell XD

i think

[dusky hearth]

that's pretty much worthless tbh lmao

[visual sun]

fair

[torn mesa]

if i use an old ssd in a completely new pc build, can i boot the system using the os on it? or would there be any problems with windows / the drivers ?

[muted patio]

If it's WIndows 10 or 11, might be OK.

I've done it before with new Mobo and CPU so should work with those OS

[torn mesa]

Might 😅
what if i installed windows onto another ssd without an os and used that to boot?

whilst having the old ssd with an os in my secondary m.2 slot ?

[rose musk]

Damn

I’m completely new to this stuff but since I’ll be building my first pc I was wondering if I could get help with choosing a rgb cpu cooler (preferably a 2x or 3x rgb fan cooler) Also I need to find the right gpu as I’m not sure if a rtx 3050 or 3060 would be a good pair for a Ryzen 5 5600

I pretty much have chosen everything else

[fossil cedar]

What country you in? Both of those are almost definitely not the best options

Also you can get a better gpu if you just use the stock cooler or a cheap air cooler instead of water cooler

Since they're bare minimum 50$ and 20$ will get you a good enough air cooler

[potent portal]

The 5600 comes with a cooler, but if you really want something with RGB go with something from Thermalright. They've been killing it in the market lately.

You won't need anything more than a single tower but a dual tower would be good too for a future upgrade.

[rose musk]

Hm as of right now this is what I have chosen

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TmhdZJ

[rose musk]

I’m located in Canada

Ohh I wasn’t sure if using the stock cooler would be efficient since I don’t seen anyone using them anyways

Not sure what gpu to go with though but I’m definitely not looking to spend more than $400 for a gpu as I am trying to build a budget- mid end tower

[jagged ember]

Stock cooler would work just fine haha

[fossil cedar]

What's your total budget?

[jagged ember]

Might get a bit loud

[fossil cedar]

It's a tad loud but perfectly fine, nothing a 20$ cooler wouldn't be able to handle though

[cyan ravine]

@rose musk what's your max budget mate

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-kenobi-anakin-skywalker-ewan-mcgregor-hayden-christensen-lightsaber-duel-gif-25996335

[rose musk]

I’m looking to be under $2000 if possible or just at 2000 lol

[fossil cedar]

Already asked that stop tryna steal

[rose musk]

💀

[cyan ravine]

I'm already nearly done with the list mate

Snooze ya lose son

[fossil cedar]

Oh that's easily done,is there a number you'd prefer instead?

[potent portal]

[fossil cedar]

Same

[cyan ravine]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/3vtHCd

[potent portal]

[cyan ravine]

I had this so far in the queue

Can go way up

[rose musk]

Hmmmmm $1000-1300?

[cyan ravine]

Big boom
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/dkrPZJ

Oh 1300

Yeah the first one I posted then

2000 is big boom list

[rose musk]

I did update the list after your recommendation about the cooler and it brings me to $585 CAD just missing the gpu and caseeee

[cyan ravine]

The psu and mobo both need changing

If you go 5600

Way out of balance for the pc

[rose musk]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TmhdZJ

[cyan ravine]

But 12600kf and 7800x3d both destroy 5600

[rose musk]

Are they budget cpus?

[cyan ravine]

And peerless on a 5600 is like throwing the continent of Antarctica at a bonfire

[cyan ravine]

@rose musk ^^^

[rose musk]

Lmaooo

Okay thanks lemme check it out one sec

[fossil cedar]

@rose musk would do this personally the value with the XT isn't there imo
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Br8yYN

[cyan ravine]

Why is canada the one place that makes sense for pc building

[fossil cedar]

Idk lol prices are acc good atm

[cyan ravine]

The cheapest hynix and mobo for am5 are just goated

Gaming x op

[fossil cedar]

Better than pro rs?

[cyan ravine]

For the price it is

[fossil cedar]

Oh well for that price hold up

[cyan ravine]

Snooze ya lose

[fossil cedar]

@rose musk for 1300
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jzrPZJ

[rose musk]

Okay so I did check all of them out

[cyan ravine]

Air 100 my beloved

[rose musk]

Just generally curious isn’t an i5 an old ass cpu? I know that there’s an i7 and the latest is an i9 or am I getting it all twisted lmao

[fossil cedar]

Nono

They're the tiers

[rose musk]

Ahhh

[fossil cedar]

They have one of those every generation

[cyan ravine]

It's identical to ryzen 7600 basically

[fossil cedar]

You've gone too advanced and misinterpreted

[potent portal]

Intel relies on you being confused about it. They just want you to think "i9 gud" and spend crazy money on it

[rose musk]

Oo thats pretty good

[cyan ravine]

12600kf = 7600

Why have we got two thistbh

[rose musk]

Yeah would’ve fooled me

[fossil cedar]

Yes but they said isn't an i5 an old ass cpu

[fossil cedar]

Urs fake

[cyan ravine]

I'm an old ass

[fossil cedar]

Not from wegg

[cyan ravine]

What

Mine from wegg

Urs not

Where urs

[fossil cedar]

U don't have nitro so

Not possible

[cyan ravine]

oh wth

[fossil cedar]

is the this wegg one

[cyan ravine]

Wth

I HAVE 3 WHAT

[fossil cedar]

Weggs tbh is teebeeh

[potent portal]

So there's 3 then

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-gone-crazy-insane-letter-l-gif-17135412

[cyan ravine]

I have been growing my thistbh crops for many years

They finally bloomed

(Why does every server have them now??)

[obsidian wigeon]

now harvest em

claim what is yours

[fossil cedar]

You also have :this : from my serv

The pink one

[cyan ravine]

My fav tbh

[fossil cedar]

Use it them

Then

[obsidian wigeon]

i have a friend that i respect

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wigeon]

but they're planning to

[cyan ravine]

I would say is my favourite

[obsidian wigeon]

pair a 4060 with his i7 3770 pc

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/unus-annus-markiplier-favorite-green-screen-meme-i-think-about-this-every-day-gif-540335293201984056

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[obsidian wigeon]

im trying to talk him into getting low power gpu instead

im assuming it's an optiplex

[cyan ravine]

Talk him into a threadripper

[fossil cedar]

Eew if his psu has a pcie cord it's actually not terrible even tho could probably get a 7700xt for that price lol

I do understand upgrading gpu then upgrading cpu later on

[cyan ravine]

TR 7995WX

Dell stock coolers stacked 8 high

One for every ccx

[potent portal]

Dell power supplies are probably the least trash component they make

Because it's really hard to screw up 12VO so they often qualify for 80+ platinum

[rose musk]

I’m tryna sort and search for all of these parts for in store pickups and I happened to stumble across something

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=201283

Are any of those 2 bundles good or should I just stick with the pcparts link I was sent originally

You have to scroll a bit down to see them

[cyan ravine]

Nah neither of them

Just worse value

Though I will say, the board I had in that list has no wifi just a heads up

You can add wifi tho

[jagged ember]

Self added wifi also means you can upgrade down the line

[cyan ravine]

Yeah, otherwise it's something more like this
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zd6L34

Or
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/csJPZJ

It's faster by a bit due to ddr5 (12600kf can come with ddr5 which is why they're really equal cpus) but you're gaining wifi in the process if you really need it

Pay some 9% more for a better life board and 10-15% more performance in cpu limited situations, which is basically fps games and certain workstation tasks

It's not a bad decision to pick any of these lists basically

Just a second choice if you needed the wifi is all

[little osprey]

my i3 9100F is finally catching up to bite me lol

my taskbar won’t work unless i reset my pc like twice

can’t wait to finish my new build and use a 5600

[little osprey]

right now it’s been 4 times, i might need to figure out what to do

[dusky hearth]

that's just windows

try reinstalling windows

[little osprey]

[rose musk]

Thank you so much, I appreciate it.

[cyan ravine]

Np

[stable cove]

So when do you all think the 5090 gpu will finally come out? They’ve been saying it’d be cheaper than the 4090 but I can’t tell

In the future I’m probably going to upgrade my gpu for vr

[flint sapphire]

cheaper

[cyan ravine]

Idk where you heard cheaper but I'd believe nothing until full details are out

[crimson zinc]

Yeah cheaper ain’t happening lmao

[tawny violet]

Anyone wanna guess MSRP?

I'll go first
It's probably gonna be 2 grand for the FE, 2200-2500 for a high-end AIB one and 3 grand for any Asus one :3

[crimson zinc]

Probably 1900-2100. 2400+ for liquid cooled ones.

[mossy venture]

I doubt it'll cost much more

Maybe $50-100

[crimson zinc]

Average 4090 was $1700-1900 right? On release

[cyan ravine]

1600 msrp

It will at the least either adjust for inflation or relegate to a smaller die and no longer be the halo tier, giving the impression it "became cheaper"

I'm with Bacca, probably 1700, maybe 1800

[crimson zinc]

Ig that’s true

[rose musk]

Genuinely curious whats the better cpu a R5 5600x or 7600x?

[mossy venture]

7600/x by far

It's the 5600/x but a new generation

New, faster cores, runs on ddr5

Other generational improvements contribute to the performance difference too

[cyan ravine]

7600/x ≈ 57/800X3D

[rose musk]

Oh okay just wanted to confirm it

[cold imp]

can anyone look over this build before we start buying stuff https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ny2TL9

[mossy venture]

id spend the extra for https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mnxRsY/hp-fx900-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-4a3u1aaabb

and save money on psu for gf a3

[rose musk]

How does this seem?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WkyR7R

[vague oracle]

@cyan ravine I need your professional foot doctor opinion, 5090, do I buy?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8txCHG

Nicer mobo, nicer psu, cheaper gpu same price, ssd is a lot hetter/more reliable

Ram is better while costing the same

[rose musk]

Soooo I’m not sure why but the prices on newegg are wayyyy off because I’m searching up the components on actual websites and a lot of store here don’t carry the psu and the ssd is $130

😭😭

Stores*

[runic spruce]

u might be on newegg in a different country

[crimson zinc]

@rose musk what country are you in

[rose musk]

Canada, specifically Toronto

I’m just tryna buy everything from in store so it’s easier for me

Yeah I can’t find that cpu cooler in any store or on newegg

[rose musk]

Nope

[rose musk]

Literally the only things in that list that are available here is the psu which is $140 and not $100. The gpu I can easily get in store and the cpu but everything else…

Being Canadian sucks bro😭

[runic spruce]

thats an american pcpp list

its gonna be more expensive bc the cad is worth less than usd

[teal dome]

Bro in Toronto there's so many good deals in marketplace

I saw a 3080 for like <400

[rose musk]

I legit checked I can’t find nun that was the first place I hit

[teal dome]

Check again, you gotta scroll through

I saw some decent pc parts

Aios ram

[rose musk]

I can’t find nada that would align with what I would need I legit even checked Kijiji

I was going based off of pc parts lists sent by people on here tbh

[mossy venture]

There is a Canadian pcparticker

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BH4hbL

[tulip dragon]

whats a good board to go with a ryzen 9 7950x3d

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/57X2FygcqLE?si=QHTL6nYzlAwe4YNz

[crimson zinc]

What would you guys say are some “standard” builds you recommend for like $500, $750, and $1000?

[rose musk]

Thanks, found most of the parts

[stable cove]

Does anyone have a specific tool I should buy or use to clean dust out of the pc. Know everyone said compressed air and cleaning out dust should be pretty easy since I can remove the glass panel from my computer.

[potent portal]

If you don't want to buy cans of compressed air you can get an "electronics duster" like this one https://www.amazon.com/Compressed-Adjustable-100000RPM-Rechargeable-Cleaning/dp/B0CFQC4DB3

[crimson zinc]

I have one of these

They suck

[viral ore]

one hundred THOUSAND RPM??

wild

[potent portal]

Yeah I have no idea how they're measuring that but it's not the important part anyway

[viral ore]

i dont think physical objects of any kind could spin that fast without blowing up

:D

[potent portal]

It's probably one of those random aliexpress DC brushless motors that claims to be 100k

But again that's not super important here

I'm not even suggesting you get this one specifically, it was just the first one that popped up when I searched amazon looking for an example

[viral ore]

yeah i get it, thats how it goes with most internet marketing these days

[dusky hearth]

no, they blow and suck

[stable cove]

Electronics should not be able to explode

Why would they even sell that?

[dusky hearth]

technically remote detonating explosives are electronics

[potent portal]

Because it can't actually reach that speed and it's either a falsity based on bad information or they're just straight up lying, both are equally likely imo

[jagged ember]

LMAOOOO 1000000RPM

They're probably straight up just lying

It's not like Amazon's going to penalize them or enforce any kind of sane rules

[jagged ember]

This ied I made is an electronic, time to place it in the middle of the highway

[stable cove]

It shouldn’t be legal for electronics to just explode the worst we should expect to happen is for stuff to just stop working

[potent portal]

They don't explode, because it's not actually running at 100k rpm

[left shore]

Yo

[silk heart]

Hello all, I am going into engineering school this fall and I am looking for laptop recommendations, I was pointed towards Lenovo by a friend but I am open to all suggestions. Any help is welcome

I am leaning towards 2-in-1 laptops with touchscreens

[dusky hearth]

honestly, in that case, the lenovo yoga line is the better choice

rtings ranks "HP Spectre x360 14 (2024)" as the best overall 2 in 1 laptop

[silk heart]

would this be good?
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/yoga/yoga-2-in-1-series/lenovo-yoga-7-2-in-1-gen-9-(16-inch-amd)/83dm0005us?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.reddit.com%252F

[dusky hearth]

yeah

[silk heart]

yeah i am looking at this and as far as i can tell the lenovo one is more value for similar price
https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-spectre-x360-2-in-1-laptop-14t-eu000-14-7k635av-1

actually cheaper

what is the intel equiv to AMD Ryzen 7?

[dusky hearth]

i7
but that's the line

[silk heart]

ok

1 TB is probably plenty, right

[dusky hearth]

also do you need any gpu accelerated workloads? neither of these laptops have a dedicated gpu

[silk heart]

that is a good question which i do not know the answer to

[potent portal]

Is CAD one of the things you'll be using? If so then you probably do want a GPU

[dusky hearth]

are there even any 2 in 1 laptops with a dgpu? i dont think i've ever seen one

[silk heart]

i'd assume so, but irdk. I am currently engineering undecided but i am planning on doing chemical

[silk heart]

i dont need to get a 2 in 1 it just seems like it would be convenient

[dusky hearth]

or actually, do you currently have a desktop

[silk heart]

yes i do

[dusky hearth]

so maybe you can just remote into that

for anything heavier

[potent portal]

CAD is typically more of a focus for structural engineering and design

[potent portal]

Yep up to a 4070

[silk heart]

i have also considered bringing my desktop with me to college but idk if it will be worth it

also what is a dgpu

[dusky hearth]

dedicated graphics card

seperate chip from nv or amd

[silk heart]

ah ok

[dusky hearth]

both laptops sent there were using the igpus

[silk heart]

i see

[potent portal]

This one has a dedicated GPU https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-spectre-2-in-1-16-2-8k-oled-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-ultra-7-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4050-1tb-ssd-nightfall-black/6568348.p?skuId=6568348

[silk heart]

yes for double the price of the other ones i was looking at

i dont have a set budget but would like to stay below 1500 usd

[dusky hearth]

i'd say figure out what your technical requirements before throwing money for a pc

[potent portal]

There's open box ones for $1577

[silk heart]

that would likely be online somewhere right?

[dusky hearth]

your program website would probably say what you need for your classes

[silk heart]

okay

[dusky hearth]

for example, my current program says this

though technically we do need more than just 500gb

[silk heart]

Operating System

Windows 11

Processor

Minimum: Intel core i7

Recommended: Intel core i9

Video card

Minimum - Dedicated video card Nvidia or AMD 4 GB

Recommended - Dedicated video card Nvidia or AMD 6 GB or higher Memory

(RAM)

Minimum - 16 GB Recommended – 32 GB or higher Storage Minimum - 256 GB Recommended – 512GB or higher Screen Minimum – 14 inch Recommended – 15 inch or larger

now looking at one of these
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-5-series/legion-pro-5i-gen-9-(16-inch-intel)/83df00a7us
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-pro-series/legion-pro-5-gen-8-(16-inch-amd)/82wm001jus

[mossy venture]

The requirement of "i7" is stupid

There's 14 generations worth if i7s

There's multiple i3s that beat multiple i7s

Hell there's probably recent dual core cpus that beat some i7s

An amd cpu is perfectly fine, it's not like with gpus where an amd vs nvidia gpu can make a massive difference

[crimson zinc]

But muh eye 7

[gentle pollen]

My friend lives in the US and is looking to get a computer.

It's gonna be used mostly for games and his budget is $800 MAX.

He needs either a laptop or a desktop with a monitor included in that budget..

[crimson zinc]

Any aesthetic choices wanted?

[stoic island]

They got kb+m already?

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6wLL34

Buy used 6700xt

Someone else will do a better job with a list

[manic cloak]

Question, microcenter & which nearby? (if there is)

[gentle pollen]

I do not know. Waiting on a response.

[gentle pollen]

He just wants performance.

[manic cloak]

well what state does he live in? would that work?

[gentle pollen]

To be honest I forgot... Just asked him.

He got back.

He says he lives in Washington.

[manic cloak]

Ya closest one would be Cali for him

which is a long drive

Anyways

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LhDVkJ @gentle pollen Let me explain some things before you send this

All black build, which I hope is fine because I did like you said, performance>the looks

Now you may see some cheap prices and a part you never seen, mainly this build is refrubished/used.

[gentle pollen]

So I need to hunt for the used parts or?

[manic cloak]

If he's fine with that, great cause he's going to get the best out of those extra 4$. The CPU is from Aliexpress but usually comes within 1-2 weeks (on par with 7600) the motherboard is from Newegg and whoever buys it will need to fill out a form to get the money back which he should do, decent mobo too. The graphics card is from Amazon's Resale department listed as "Good" condition but they have a 90 day warranty for that.

All the links for the used/different parts are at the bottom of the list.

While everything else you can click on it's dedicated section and buy it through there.

[mossy venture]

Should still have a warranty through manufacturer too

I doubt og buyer registered it

[manic cloak]

Possibly

But I could only find the 90 day warranty for it

[manic cloak]

Who knows though if there is extra warranty. Your friend should 100% inspect the motherboard and graphics card before doing anything just in case.

[gentle pollen]

Gotcha.

Thank you.

[manic cloak]

Of course

Otherwise he has a real good AM5 build that he can easily upgrade without switching platforms, only switching monitor resolution if he wanted.

[rose musk]

I have a question about finding a pc case/tower. Would any mobo fit in any mid size towers? I’m scared to buy a tower and then have my mobo not fitting or aligning.

Just asking because I’ve seen people have issues with that^

[muted patio]

Cases list the motherboard size they should fit

Best to pick a motherboard/form factor (ATX, ITX, etc) then a case for it.

[rose musk]

Hm I have a B650M

Alright I’ll figure it out, thank you

[muted patio]

That's M-ATX

So any case that fits ATX or M-ATX should work fine

[rose musk]

Okay thanks

[mossy venture]

What vintage said. Aside from that just make sure your cooler and gpu fit

[oak sequoia]

Hey so my friend ran into a issue and I was wondering if anyone could help. “so I’ve run into a problem where everything turns on but the gpu flashed red and won’t spin and the case fans aren’t spinning either”

[muted patio]

Red light on the GPU or red VGA light on the motherboard?

[oak sequoia]

I can send the video in #build-pics

Nvm it didn’t work

I’ll send in DMs

[muted patio]

What motherboard is it?

[oak sequoia]

Let me ask him

[oak sequoia]

B650m-A Pro Wi-Fi

[muted patio]

Red light on the motherboard = CPU not detected or fail.

Power off PSU, unplug from wall, wait a few, replug and restart. BIOS might be borked. If that doesn't work, BIOS reset recommended.

Is it overclocked at all or stock?

[oak sequoia]

i invited him to the server

ill tell him to message here so its easier

[muted patio]

Probs easier that way lol

[oak sequoia]

yeah lol

hes joining

[muted patio]

👍

[oak sequoia]

his user is belac (belac4769)

hes verifying his account

[muted patio]

It's all good, I'm here

[river goblet]

mb im here now

[muted patio]

All good

[oak sequoia]

@muted patio

[stoic rapids]

[oak sequoia]

hes all urs

[muted patio]

So, here we go, I'll start at the beginning, I saw the vid

Red light on the motherboard = CPU not detected or fail.
Power off PSU, unplug from wall, wait a few, replug and restart. BIOS might be borked. If that doesn't work, BIOS reset recommended.
Is it overclocked at all or stock?

[river goblet]

Stock these are all new parts

[muted patio]

Ohhhh, is this a first boot??

[river goblet]

Yeah first boot

[muted patio]

Ok, what CPU please

[river goblet]

Ryzen 5 7600

[muted patio]

Gimme a sec

[river goblet]

I’m also using the stock cooler it came with

[muted patio]

Good

Let me watch the video again real quick

[river goblet]

Alright

[muted patio]

It's ahrd to tell in the video, do you have an 8 pin power connector on the upper left of the motherboard? Didn't look like it but hard to see

ALl I saw was what looked like a fan cable

[river goblet]

I’ll send a picture

[muted patio]

DM if it won't let you post here.

I've been gone a while, can't remember all the channel perms. 😂

[river goblet]

Yeah it won’t let me I’ll dm

[sour ice]

Hello i’m trying to build a PC and my budget around 1.6 K and I already got the case so don’t include that to the total I got the H9 elite the theme I am going for is a clean white build with lots of rgb and screens doesn’t have to be over the top because I know the budget is limited but just a few of these aspects and I already made a list of what of what I want to get but maybe you can look over it and check if it’s a good configuration or how you would build it for that price thank you.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fwctz6

[muted patio]

Cool, got the pic. That cable says CPU and not VGA, right? If it says, CPU, good to go

[manic cloak]

My friend was looking for a 1080p monitor, 24 or 27 in, 165hz+ for around 100-150$ and i'm currently finding a few but don't know what's best

[river goblet]

Yeah it just says cpu

[muted patio]

And the CPU fan is plugged into the CPU_FAN header? hard to tell in pic

[manic cloak]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/670531/acer-nitro-kg240y-m5biip-238-full-hd-(1920-x-1080)-180hz-gaming-monitor https://pcpartpicker.com/product/H34Zxr/asus-tuf-gaming-vg249q1r-238-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-90lm05v1-b01eb0 what i've found for now

[river goblet]

Yeah it’s plugged into CPU_FAN1

[manic cloak]

For gaming? Also what resolution.

[muted patio]

RAM is in A2/B2 slots?

[river goblet]

those are the second and fourth slots right?

[muted patio]

Correct

[river goblet]

Then yeah they’re on those slots

[sour ice]

Yes a gaming rig and I don’t know that much about resolution and stuff like that

[muted patio]

Unplug it from the wall, pop out the battery in the bottom left under the GPU (move the small metal tab, battery will pop), wait 10 minutes, battery back in, leave GPU out, add power and restart.

[manic cloak]

Okay so with your budget I plan on giving you 2k resolution aka 1440p. Also you want monitors included in budget?

Do you plan on doing anything else than gaming?

[muted patio]

If the motherboard boots to a VGA error, we can unplug it again and put the GPU back in. Need to move past the CPU detection issue first

[manic cloak]

Like a job? Rendering? Animations? I'm just listing things people do.

[sour ice]

I don’t know I don’t need monitors or anything else. I already have everything. I’m just getting a new PC because my old one is broken and yes, just for gaming.

[manic cloak]

So just a new pc is all, no monitors

and no diff case

gotcha

[river goblet]

Got it

[manic cloak]

I mean I can tell you this, if you figure out what monitors you have and send it here that could help me out

cause I don't want you to have a 1.5k pc on some office monitor

Also @peak shore Do you live in the united states? Near any microcenter?

[sour ice]

I have 3 Samsung monitors but I am pretty shure they all only have 60hz but I don’t mind

[river goblet]

I’m gonna try it soon i gotta go to work in a bit

[muted patio]

ALl good

[manic cloak]

You know which models? I mean your PC is going to be pumping out some hefty frames, i'd atleast want you to have one monitor that is clear as day to you, others as off tab/secondaries

[sour ice]

No I don’t know right now but maybe that’s something I’m going to upgrade in the future or like at least one of them but for now just gonna buy the PC

[manic cloak]

Gotcha. Also USA? Near a microcenter?

Sorry for so many questions

[peak shore]

You tagged the wrong John

[sour ice]

No worries but I sadly don’t have a microcenter in my country so you can jut look on Amazon for reference

[manic cloak]

My fault john 😭

[manic cloak]

So you don't live in the US?

[peak shore]

Yeah it's all good, I thought it was funny

[sour ice]

Nope

[manic cloak]

Which country then because they have pcpp's in that region likely

[sour ice]

I am from germany

[manic cloak]

And total comes out to 1600 euros or USD?

[sour ice]

1600 in Euro but the difference is not too big anyways

[lone flame]

What is the best way to get my AIO tubes to look like they do in the first picture with the PC powered on? Can I get away with like flipping the block around or does the whole thing have to come out and be flipped?

[manic cloak]

Does the AIO cord not bend back?

[lone flame]

Cord as in like the power cable of the pump?

[manic cloak]

Nono, what you're trying to bend back.

the tubes mb

[lone flame]

The tubes can’t really go anywhere no

It’s how I put it in idk what I did tbh

[manic cloak]

Honestly I wouldn't really have a clue without suggesting to take it out 😭

[lone flame]

That’s fine, I’m taking it apart a bit anyway to replace a bad fan so

[sour ice]

@manic cloak So do you have any suggestions for me?

[manic cloak]

I'm currently building the list still, i'm not used to using other markets so sorry for my slow process 😭

Cause unfortunately I do conversion rates, I double check if I can do things I do here but i'm very limited

[sour ice]

Oh lol sorry take your time

[manic cloak]

Like Germany's amazon has no resales that are in reasonable

Plus you guys are paying like an extra 5-80$ per component depending on what part

which is scary

I assume you want RGB ram?

[sour ice]

You could look on pcpartpicker too and configure something

[sour ice]

Yea

[manic cloak]

What i'm doing rn but like alot of the pcpp items aren't on sale in germany

[manic cloak]

and an AIO because you're going for THAT H9 elite type build?

[sour ice]

Yes but doesn’t have to be if it is not possible

You can also take parts that are unavailable I am shure you can get most of the stuff elsewhere

[manic cloak]

Alright well do you prefer Dominator RAM or Teamgroups delta model for RGB?

[sour ice]

You can take dominator ram or if that is too expensive you can look at g. Skill ram

[manic cloak]

Ya cause both of them are around 120 euros

Just diff CL latency and mhz, the dominator is slightly better.

[sour ice]

If the difference is not too big just go for aesthetics

[river goblet]

forgot to ask but when you say leave the gpu out do you mean leaving the gpu disconnected while I restart the pc?

[muted patio]

Completely remove it from the system, I think you'll have to to remove the button cell battery anyway

7600 has an integrated GPU so you'll have graphics without it

Once we get it booted up, can shut down and put GPU back in

[manic cloak]

@sour ice https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AsiaHorse-Extension-Sleeved-Extensions-Management-Snow-white/dp/B0BP2CLQ4B/ref=sr_1_1?

Is there any shipping price on these?

[river goblet]

Alright thank you I’ll be trying it after work

[manic cloak]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/AsiaHorse-Sleeved-Extension-Extensions-Management/dp/B0B4V8T8BD/ref=sr_1_2? Or this one.

[sour ice]

Doesn’t matter I have Amazon prime

[manic cloak]

Oh sweet

@sour ice https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/yHwfQP

That's the list I made, somebody else might remake it at a later time, no clue when. Originally it had a 7600 + small aircooler but you had about 400 euros extra so I added the 7800x3d and AIO.

[sour ice]

Thanks for taking the time to configure this for me I am probably going to build it almost like this with a few changes 👍

[potent portal]

VAT and other taxes are included in their prices

[lone flame]

I put in a replacement fan and adjusted my AIO tubes, now my PC is shutting itself off

I got into desktop once and everything was super slow then it shut itself off

I turned it on again and it booted but shut itself off before it could get to desktop

[mossy venture]

Did you reconnect the pump header

[muted patio]

When you adjusted your AIO tubes, it's possible you changed the mounting of the block on the CPU. Sounds like CPU getting hot or you unplugged the pump or something

[mossy venture]

To the mobo

Lol same idea

[muted patio]

Yup

You just had less to type

[lone flame]

It may of come lose let me double check it

Also my replacement fan is making the same clicking noise so I need to get another one 💀

[mossy venture]

Sure it isn't the pump?

Not sure what clicking noise a pump would make

But both fans having the same exact issue is... odd

[lone flame]

Yes when I hold the bearing and stop that fan the noise stops

And yes the pump cable wasn’t in that’s awkward

[mossy venture]

Lmao I did the same thing but so much worse

[lone flame]

As soon as that fan stops the noise immediately stops

[mossy venture]

I spent an hour and a half taking the cooler off and remounting it, redoing paste, running cinebench wondering why it was instantly 70s-90s on boot

[lone flame]

Yikes

grahh I might have to take my gpu out again my fat fingers can’t get it back in

My pump thing plugs like right under the ip shield

[mossy venture]

Oh weird

I feel like most mobos it's top right or about level with the cpu on the right

[lone flame]

I have an A620 board so maybe that’s it idk

There is one to the top right of the CPU

idk what I’m using it for I can’t remember

[mossy venture]

Ahh

[lone flame]

I think my rgb/fan header is plugged into it

The only other one and what the manual said for Aio pumps is to the left

Yeah ima have to pop the gpu back out lol

Nvm I got it just took a weird angle

Okay I’m back into windows and temps are fine and stable

But now it won’t let me connect to any network

Like there’s no option to open the list of networks near me

Yeah it just randomly loses wifi now and won’t let me select a option

oh cool it just blue screened

I need help if someone has time

[dusky hearth]

onboard? or add in card

if it's an add in card in a pcie slot or whatever, i'd first try reseating it

and if not, then try reinstalling the wifi drivers

[mossy venture]

The blue screen makes me think ram or windows issues

Did you get the error code?

[lone flame]

No it was all artifacted

Another guy helping me says I need to download wifi drivers off of another pc

[mossy venture]

Wait hold up

[lone flame]

There’s no wifi card detected under device manager

[mossy venture]

Artifacted as in gpu display issues

Or monitor/cable

[lone flame]

It only did it during the blue screen

[mossy venture]

I would 100% think gpu or ram

Make sure gpu is fully slotted in

[lone flame]

Okay but why did my wifi disappear

[mossy venture]

Artifacting isn't a random thing

[lone flame]

What would gpu have to do with that

[mossy venture]

Could be separate could be related

But artifacting is not a symptom of wifi issues

[lone flame]

It was a weird like 4 small blue screens all artifacted over the top of my screen

I tried to grab my phone but i wasn’t fast enough

[mossy venture]

Just to be 100% clear, something along these lines?

[lone flame]

Uhh

Yes

Only did it that once

[mossy venture]

Is ram oced or just expo/xmp?

[lone flame]

Should just be expo/xmp

[mossy venture]

Hm, if it happens again I would run a memtest and a gpu stress test

P95 would do the job, otherwise timespy

You can also share wifi via your phone btw

If you have an android, not sure if it works with iphones

[lone flame]

This is what it shows for my wifi btw

[mossy venture]

I hate device manager

That's mostly gibberish to me. I believe the second one is your wifi card

Yeah it is

Realtek pcie etc

[lone flame]

im on my pc
just reseated
theres wifi rn
idk if this was it or not but if it was
the stupid screws securing my pump block to my cpu werent all the way tight
i tightened those
knock on wood it seems to be fine?

[mossy venture]

If anything else happens like I said I'd run ram/gpu stress tests

If nothing happens, then nothing happens lol

[lone flame]

id rather nothing happen than something at this point lol

Nevermind it just lost wifi again

I ran the built in gpu stress test in the Radeon software and it was fine

10 seconds after it finished it lost wifi

[muted patio]

GbE is gigabit Ethernet, for the record

Wifi wasn't showing in device manager pic.

[lone flame]

So id need to download wifi drivers off of a flash drive

?

[dusky hearth]

2nd one isnt wifi, 2nd one is wired

[dusky hearth]

no, windows isnt detectng it at all

so drivers wont fix it

it needs to show up for the drivers to work

[lone flame]

It has wifi for like 5 minutes when I turned the pc on

[dusky hearth]

i had a similar issue on a laptop and it was just the wifi chip dying

though my laptop was 6 years old at that point

[lone flame]

It’s a year old mobo

Only started doing this after I adjusted my auto and put in a new fan

[dusky hearth]

your auto?

[lone flame]

AIO

sorry

[dusky hearth]

ah

is it the mobo's wifi or did you add a wifi card?

[lone flame]

Built in WiFi

[dusky hearth]

hmm

[mossy venture]

Make sure the lil cables on it are still connected

[lone flame]

Where would it be on an asrock a620m pro rs wifi

[dusky hearth]

if it's built in, that shouldnt be an issue? even without antennas, the wifi card should still be detecting in devmgmt

[lone flame]

Bro what the hell

I shut the pc down from windows and everything turned off but my fans are still spinning

And my peripherals still have power

[manic cloak]

Okay I need a timeline for all of this

From what I know, you removed your graphics card, readjusted AIO or something, no wifi now? i'm lost

[muted patio]

WiFi card is directly under GPU, one moment

Red circled part

Make sure you didn't disturb it messing with GPU

It's an M.2 formfactor so if it turns out to be bad it can be easily replaced. Probs worth shutting PC down from power, removing power cord, reseating the M.2 card and powering back up

[dusky hearth]

oh it's not soldered on

[muted patio]

In this case, nope, which might end up being a good thing

[dusky hearth]

would also mean it's upgradable

which is nice

[rose musk]

Hey so I’ve had someone tell me that you don’t necessarily need to purchase win11 or pro because it’s pricey but there’s just a watermark and it gets annoying and restricts some things

Is that true? And would it be recommended to go without it??

[fluid flare]

If I backorder something is it the same as if I’d wait till it came back in stock to order it or how does that work cus the gpu I’m looking at just went out of stock and I’m not sure what to do

The gpu I’m looking at is the sapphire 7900 gre pure

[jagged ember]

you absolutely can just use windows without activating it

its effectively freeware and microsoft is handing it out like candy lmao

[rose musk]

Wait so I’d still have to buy windows11 itself it for $139 though right? Just not the key??

[jagged ember]

huh?

No lol you're buying the key if you pay for it

What I'm saying is you can just download the latest version of w10/w11 and create a usb to install windows on your computer

and you can just choose to skip activation during setup

effectively making it freeware

the key is just a string of letters and numbers that shows microsoft you actually bought windows

though as with all things there are ways around it

[analog hearth]

ur mom

[jagged ember]

That is valid

[rose musk]

Alright that cleared it up thanks

[lone flame]

is it just like a screw driver

[muted patio]

SHould just be a philips screw on the end, yes. Might even have a little hold down lever you swivel out of the way, can't tell from pics

[lone flame]

im on my pc now, i went to bed last night snd decided it was a tomorrow thing, pc has been running without gpu in and has had wifi for the past like almost 10 minutes

its a little screw by the looks of thingsd

none of these are my wifi card though correct

[muted patio]

Your WiFi card is there. RZ616 Wi-Fi 6e 160 mhz

[lone flame]

so where was it last night

[muted patio]

Taking a nap

[lone flame]

just from a visual look at it without my gpu blocking it it looks fine

[muted patio]

Checked last nights pic again, that wasn't there

[lone flame]

wires look onbothered on their way to the atennas

[muted patio]

It's showing up now so no need to mess with it

[lone flame]

As soon as I said that

My WiFi connection dropped

[muted patio]

Gone again?

[lone flame]

Looking in device manager no wifi card

[muted patio]

Ah, OK def pull it and reseat it and try again. Do it with power off and unplugged from wall

If you continue to have issues, might be time for a new one

Lukcily a new one is only ~$30

[lone flame]

What would of changed just from me putting my gpu in and out

[muted patio]

Bumped it without knowing

Or just a coincidence that it died while doing things

It's right under the edge of the GPU below the PCI-E slot

[lone flame]

My cpu shut the PC down once when I forgot to replug my pump in, could that of done anything to it

[muted patio]

doubtful

[lone flame]

Was on without pump running for less than like 2-3 mins

[muted patio]

CPU shouldn't affect the wifi card

[lone flame]

Mk

When I reseat it so I need to unplug the cables going in? Can I even do that?

[muted patio]

Nah, don't need to plug or unplug the cables. It's like an M.2 SSD, take the screw out of the end, remove card, put it back, put screw back

Check the cables to be sure they're connected firmly though but don't need to remove to reseat the card

[lone flame]

That top one looks kinda bent now that you mention it

Alright let me see about reseating this

[muted patio]

Doesn't look horrible but a quick check might save you $30

[muted patio]

Oh, that other antenna wire looks like it might be touching the screw and grounding out??

Check that too

[lone flame]

It’s out, anything I should be looking at in particular before i put it back in?

[muted patio]

Not really, make sure the antenna wires aren't touching the screw and it's seated fully

[lone flame]

Reseated, how does that look

[muted patio]

Looks good

[lone flame]

alright back on pc with it back in

everything boots fine and its detected, wifi is there

let me just wait and see i guess

[muted patio]

Ya, if it keeps disappearing, might need to replace the WiFi card

[mossy venture]

^ I've got a spare wifi 6 m.2 card I could send you

[lone flame]

alright it has been running for over 20 minutes since reseat

i still have wifi

[muted patio]

Nice!!

[lone flame]

weirdly my rgb isnt working with signalrgb tho

[muted patio]

Out of the frying pan into the fire

That is outside my expertise, never been good with RGB

[lone flame]

i still have to put my gpu back in which is scary since thats right by my wifi card

[muted patio]

Keep your fingers away from slot and bottom of card, you'll be fine

[lone flame]

Okay update

GPU was back in and it was working fine

Just now my rgb turned on and off and on again, my Bluetooth headphones disconnected, reconnected, then disconnected again, and then my wifi dropped

Clicking on my wifi card it says there are no drivers for it

But it is showing in device manager

[muted patio]

No yellow ! icon or anything?

Have a look by your GPU, is it touching the WiFi card at all? Does the GPU have a big cooler on it?

[lone flame]

In device manager no not that I can see

[lone flame]

It if it’s I couldn’t tell, its a xfx 6950xt so it’s a big cooler

[muted patio]

You ain't kidding!

[lone flame]

It was running fine for 30 mins

[muted patio]

It looks like the cooler shouldn't touch the WiFi card itself, although the wires for the antenna might be getting bent or something?

Could just be a bum card too, in my opinion, I'd message Bacca about the other WiFi card they have and try that

[lone flame]

At this point would it have anything to do with the wifi card drivers

Clicking on it in device manager says none are insyalled

[muted patio]

Possibly. Check the motherboard support section for drivers and reinstall if you'd like

[muted patio]

https://download.asrock.com/Drivers/All/WLAN/MediaTek_WLAN(v3.3.0.0702).zip

Click, Unzip, Install

[lone flame]

bro what is happening

I can’t even restart my pc

It’s just sitting on the windows restart screen

[muted patio]

Just hit reboot switch on the case

Windows doing Windows thing

[lone flame]

Downloaded it, now restarting

alright im back in and stuff is working, but I know its not

my rgb isnt on, but in my rgb software it says it is, if my wifi drops or acts weird again which I bet it is going to, the lights will come on for a few seconds and turn off like it did last time

[mossy venture]

I would just reinstall windows atp

[lone flame]

how

[mossy venture]

With a USB with windows on it