building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

I think your next step is probably to take a look at that wifi card

[limber oyster]

They own the house

I just pay rent

[dusky hearth]

Oh

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[dusky hearth]

They asked for it to be in the bedroom

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[dusky hearth]

Damn

[limber oyster]

Yep

Oh, and the street side box that runs the cable to our house? That breaks with EVERY severe storm or temperature snap

It broke 5 times in 6 months

[cyan ravine]

Iirc wifi card should be right here behind the antenna plugs

[limber oyster]

Prior, we had spectrum and our wifi would die from 6pm to 6am.

[limber oyster]

Yeah, but my heatsink rests on the shield. Can't remove shield without removing the CPU cooler

[cyan ravine]

Wait you might be in luck

Hold on

[limber oyster]

Every day

[dusky hearth]

Quality ISP moment frfr

[limber oyster]

Yep

[cyan ravine]

I see 2 screws that might hold the wifi card in

[limber oyster]

Covered by the case

[cyan ravine]

Meaning it might slot straight out of the board

Without removing the heatsink

[limber oyster]

And I have the side io cover on too

[cyan ravine]

Lol.

[limber oyster]

So again, CPU heatsink and GPU

[cyan ravine]

So board needs to come out, but possibly not the heatsink

[limber oyster]

Heatsink covers motherboard screws

[cyan ravine]

Cos it looks like the wifi is removable without touching the cover

I'm aware but the wifi card looks independently connected

[limber oyster]

But to get to those I need to remove the board

Case covers those

[cyan ravine]

Yes board needs to come out

[limber oyster]

And for board to cove out I need remove the screw holding it into the case

[cyan ravine]

What size is this heatsink again

I remember it was a lp of some sort

[dusky hearth]

Size of pluto

[limber oyster]

Of which the heatsink covers

It's the thermalright axp120

X67

[cyan ravine]

Ah 120

So probably top left

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

Hmm well I can't say a whole lot else to this, reinstalling wifi drivers might trip something

[limber oyster]

Again, did so

In w10 and 11

[cyan ravine]

But there's not a whole lot of diagnosis for network drivers

[limber oyster]

From Intel AND asus

I did both wifi and Bluetooth

[cyan ravine]

I believe you I'm just reiterating for a comprehensive answer

[limber oyster]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

I think the next step is just opening up that board

[limber oyster]

Which if I'm tearing apart my PC for, I'm just replacing the card

[cyan ravine]

Wifi dongles aren't a good idea, and if you lack a spare m.2 you couldn't use ngff

[limber oyster]

I have two NVMes currently

The wifi chip has its own tho

[cyan ravine]

Yeah and that strix takes two nvme only ye?

[limber oyster]

Mhm

One frontal, one rear

Minus wifi slot

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I think that's the way to go then

Open it up, see if you can swap/replace the card with the same thing, try it again with a different card

Wifi card dying is not an uncommon thing, especially in a low airflow situation like itx layouts

[limber oyster]

This says compatible with AMD, but not sure if I could remove the chipset and plug into board

[cyan ravine]

No slot space for it

[limber oyster]

But might go this as it's what I have now

[limber oyster]

Remove the actual wifi chip from the PCIe adapter

[cyan ravine]

Oh and swap it? It may work

But as we established like, most of am4 doesn't detect that card

[limber oyster]

But idk if it's that Intel wifi 7 one that Intel says isn't

[cyan ravine]

Ye that's the thing

Only BE200/202 is really out there rn

[limber oyster]

Might work on amd BECAUSE of the adapter

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Which you could do with an ngff to m.2 slot

[limber oyster]

But both of mine are populated

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[limber oyster]

Wait...if the wifi slot is m.2, wouldn't the adapter work there too?

[cyan ravine]

It's e key, but you may as well just plug direct

Or rather should be e key

[limber oyster]

I almost want to buy the wifi 7 and TRY

If it doesn't work, just return it

But I absolutely want to go the wifi 6 as I can guarantee its compatible

[cyan ravine]

Yeah but then you're taking the system apart twice if wifi 7 fails lol

Which is most likely

[limber oyster]

I'll just go the ax210

Go wifi 6e

[cyan ravine]

I'd just pop it open, order whatever card it has

Then pop that in

It may have killer or realtek

[limber oyster]

I know it has the Ax200

Already verified

[cyan ravine]

Oh ok fair

Ax210 should work then

should

[limber oyster]

I think it has a realtek Ethernet controller, but it has an Intel chip

[cyan ravine]

Likely yeah

Some amd manus use realtek or killer tho

[limber oyster]

What's those KILLER wifi chips?

Is that Intel or another brand altogether?

[cyan ravine]

Killer is another brand, my last one was in 7th gen

[limber oyster]

Ahh

Those any good?

Or are they overpriced

[cyan ravine]

I mean it works

It's much like any other card really

I've never really looked at comparisons between wifi cards

I live where there's basic internet everywhere so I'm dreaming of hitting full speed at any point lol

[cyan ravine]

Never had the thought to learn if any are better than their counterparts

[limber oyster]

Interesting. Killer and Intel....

[cyan ravine]

Though I would stick to same brand

[obsidian wigeon]

Intel bought Killer

[cyan ravine]

As oem driver compatibility may come into play

[obsidian wigeon]

They're the same brands now

[limber oyster]

Use what works...I can stick behind that

[limber oyster]

Gotchya

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[limber oyster]

I also have the AX200 drivers already

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise you might get a wifi 7 situation lol

Do be careful tho, the aerial wires are very fragile

They kinda just pop off the wifi card

Excessive force and they'll snap

[limber oyster]

Think that could've happened?

Wires popped off?

[cyan ravine]

Moving it around?

[limber oyster]

For wifi anyways

[cyan ravine]

Hmmm

[dusky hearth]

You don't want to see me rage

[cyan ravine]

Maybe?

Loose wire would kill your wifi speed definitely

[limber oyster]

Might not effect Bluetooth

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-rage-tiktok-twerks-gif-23084232

[limber oyster]

But I still get full bars for connectivity so...

[cyan ravine]

Hulk SMASH! *Bends one wire *

[cyan ravine]

It would definitely feel bricked tho

I've run a wifi card without antennas

Almost no signal next to the router

It does in fact work tho

💀

[limber oyster]

I have full bars signal wise so...

Maybe not the cables

[cyan ravine]

Mm

[dusky hearth]

Tbf it's separated for tx and rx so maybe just tx fell off

Or broke

[cyan ravine]

Quality asus moment

[limber oyster]

I've had 5 Asus boards

This is a first

[cyan ravine]

I'm meme'ing

I'm on my fourth, Not really had this happen either

[limber oyster]

I've debated just going to an ASRock board too

[cyan ravine]

Go asrock next gen

[dusky hearth]

Idk what chip it was using but maybe it was using the same antenna for Rx and tx and using the other one for steering

[cyan ravine]

Asrock upped their game with am5

[limber oyster]

But their itx kind is.... miniscule

[dusky hearth]

But yeah idk

[limber oyster]

I have a 5900x rn

Not gonna upgrade to am5

[cyan ravine]

Asrock is probably the best for am5 rn

[limber oyster]

I don't have THAT much spare money

[limber oyster]

There's only one board from ASRock that fits my needs and it looks ugly

[cyan ravine]

A620i lightning wifi is like, $140 or something, same vrm as the b650i's

[limber oyster]

And then new cpu

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[limber oyster]

New cooler as mine didn't come with am5 mounts

And new ram

[cyan ravine]

Am5 is am4 for mounting

Identical

New ram tho

[limber oyster]

New ram

I have 32GB rn

I'm not paying 32GB DDR5 prices

[cyan ravine]

If you offset a lot of this from flipping the 5900x+board+ram tho you could probably do that pretty cheap

[limber oyster]

A ASRock am4 board is pushing my budget to the absolute max

[cyan ravine]

Not suggesting you do it now but it's fun to consider

$83 32gb 5600 hynix A + asrock a620i + 7600/7800x3d you'd be looking at about $400/$570 but offset by the used parts you could probably cut that down to like 100, 200-ish

[limber oyster]

If I went am5 I'd go atleast Ryzen 7. That's atleast $350 right there

[cyan ravine]

Especially since it's itx

I mean sure

But itx boards hold value well

Especially since it's strix

People love strix tax

[limber oyster]

Pfttt tell that to the $450 b550-i strix board prices

I got this one for $150

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[limber oyster]

In Tennessee

[cyan ravine]

So you imagine reselling that for 150

+prolly 250 for 5900x

200?

$60 for 32gb

410-ish?

And a 7700x/7800x3d with all the kit would be about 570

Technically doable

But 5 times the price of ax200/ax210

Lol

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2PRNZJ

About $450 out of budget

And I only make $2200 a month

$600 of which goes to my vehicle

[mossy venture]

7800x3d is better for gaming

[limber oyster]

$800 of which goes to rent

The rest is other various bills

$80 is phone bill

And the $600 is not counting gas

So ..yeah

I'm on a very TIGHT budget

[cyan ravine]

I said 7700x or 7800x3d

[limber oyster]

Ik

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[limber oyster]

And the 9 is ONLY $50-60 more

[cyan ravine]

Jesus the 7700 is 280

Wth when did that happen

[limber oyster]

Less than $40

[mossy venture]

and it is worse in gaming due to core scheduling

dual ccd nonsense

[cyan ravine]

This is what I was targeting

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z3xXGP

[limber oyster]

Jeez, got a notification from our driveway Ring camera...

It is POURING outside

[cyan ravine]

If I put the 7800x3d in it does reach 570

[burnt spruce]

So what should I do?

[cyan ravine]

You'd offset it with the am4 parts sold tho

[limber oyster]

Wouldn't the silicon power ram be better for $10 more?

[cyan ravine]

It's the same stuff

Just no xmp

The cl46 kits do 8000+

[limber oyster]

Ah

I don't do overclock so...

[cyan ravine]

They're unironically insane

[limber oyster]

That's one thing i don't do, especially in an itx case

[cyan ravine]

Well you can do an xmp manually tho

Put any other xmp in for amd expo and it'd run

It's 7 numbers in bios

Takes 5 minutes

[limber oyster]

Yeah...I don't trust myself

[cyan ravine]

Instead of a preprogrammed button for 6400 cl32, you do it manually and out in 6400 cl32-39-39-39-97

[limber oyster]

Random stuff breaking keeps happening

My vehicles VTT solenoid failed

My wifi chip failed

[cyan ravine]

I mean ok but, it's really the same thing as the xmp button lol

Just manual steps

[limber oyster]

My sedans alternator fried twice in two years

[cyan ravine]

That's kinda crazy ngl

Was the replacement just cheap or something??

Surely you have a warranty

[limber oyster]

Most recent one I was 3 hours drive away from home

And tow truck wanted $1500 to take me home

[cyan ravine]

Damn

[limber oyster]

Instead I paid $150 to go 5 minutes down the road to an Oriellys and paid another $450 to change it out myself in the parking lot

[cyan ravine]

That's a "take me to the local mechanic" moment lol

Yeah 100% I'd do that too

[limber oyster]

I was 3 hours from home at 5pm

Took me 15 minutes

[cyan ravine]

Damn

You did well then

Albeit a pain

[limber oyster]

It was my second time doing it

And it was in a V6 Honda Accord

[cyan ravine]

That's even more surprising

[limber oyster]

The only thing that's a pain on those is the rear bank spark plugs

[cyan ravine]

Those are supposed to be pretty reliable

Lol

[limber oyster]

Pft

I've had THREE Honda, currently on my third

All three have been nothing but issues

[stoic island]

do chkdsk /f and restart, /r first if you need to recover whatever got corrupted

[cyan ravine]

All used?

[limber oyster]

My '99 Pontiac sunfire which I got from an abandoned car auction was more reliable

And I had to rebuild the engine in my parents driveway

The engine and the entire brake assembly

[cyan ravine]

I've never owned a honda myself, tho most people I've spoken to I've never really heard of issues

[limber oyster]

Spent close to $5k fixing that car

[cyan ravine]

Usually they crash into things

That's a weird like, relationship between them lol

[limber oyster]

Usually people try to crash into me

[cyan ravine]

But vtec is known to be really solid

[limber oyster]

That's why I installed two 24/7 dash cams

[cyan ravine]

Do you mod your car?

[limber oyster]

Not power wise

Engines are stock

Also, my current Honda is a 4 cylinder AWD CRV, 2006

It gets 8 miles a gallon on gas

[obsidian wigeon]

ouch

[cyan ravine]

Which motor was it

[limber oyster]

In a week, my V6 sedan used as much gas as my 4 cylinder AWD CRV

[obsidian wigeon]

Might wanna check spark plugs lol

[burnt spruce]

is says like this ?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I'd believe that lol

[limber oyster]

*as much gas as my 4 cylinder CRV did in a day

[obsidian wigeon]

6 mpg is terrible for any average sized crossover

Something's wrong with it

[cyan ravine]

I'd have no idea what my mpg is

[limber oyster]

It isn't even a crossover. It's listed as an SUV

[cyan ravine]

We do L/100km

Crv, suv??

[limber oyster]

Honda CRV

[cyan ravine]

Isn't that a 5 seater

Am I mistaken, isn't that 5 seats

[limber oyster]

Kinda. More like 4.5

[cyan ravine]

That would count as a crossover to me

Back then crossover wasn't really a category tho

[limber oyster]

Well the registration has it has a SUV

[cyan ravine]

Wouldn't consider it really an suv tho

Yeah that's weird

[limber oyster]

This is 2006 tho so...

[cyan ravine]

Mmm

[limber oyster]

It also has a full size spare tire too

🤷‍♂️

[cyan ravine]

Those are nice to have

[limber oyster]

And a picnic table where the spare tires usually are

[cyan ravine]

Lol

But some of the most reliable engine's I'd learnt about over the years were

The 90's vtec

E36

2jz

[cyan ravine]

The lancer one (no memory of the name)

[limber oyster]

But anyways, am5, even if I sold my current hardware is out of budget

[cyan ravine]

The hilux motor

[limber oyster]

Mitsubishi

[cyan ravine]

Ye the motor tho

So many codes I can't remember them all, not like pc ones lol

[limber oyster]

Nothing Kia or German are reliable

[cyan ravine]

E36 is

E36/e46

[limber oyster]

Ehh

[cyan ravine]

Won multiple engine awards of the year through then90's and start of 2000's

I mean I'd know, I owned one

[limber oyster]

Tbf, back then all you needed was fuel efficiency

[burnt spruce]

I tried chkdsk C: /f also

[cyan ravine]

You can take an e36 rallying

They're ridiculous

Lol

[limber oyster]

People say Hondas are reliable...My personal experience says otherwise

Reminds me of my taichi temps

[cyan ravine]

I believe you that you had problems

100% won't deny you of that

[cyan ravine]

I see a lot and hear a lot of good things tho, so it's just surprising

[limber oyster]

My taichi

[cyan ravine]

I mightn't last any longer in the chat

My phone can barely even launch discord anymore

[limber oyster]

Oof

Close apps

[cyan ravine]

Ever since the new update

They're all closed lol

[limber oyster]

Oof

I like my phone

$50 and has 16GB of memory

[cyan ravine]

2022 flagship not good enough for android anymore apparently

[limber oyster]

And a snap dragon 695

[cyan ravine]

The engine from honda I'm thinking of btw

Honda B series

[cyan ravine]

So the one from the civics, integras, accords, 1990's

[limber oyster]

My "SUV" has a k24

My sedan has a j30

Both automatic

K24 is a 2.4L 4 cylinder

[stoic island]

yea do Y and then restart

[limber oyster]

J30 is a 3.0L v6

Anyways, I'm gonna stop car chat and let Mr1111 help Miya diagnose

[burnt spruce]

After that what next step should I do?

[obsidian wigeon]

My phone can still launch discord

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough lol

[stoic island]

After it finishes restarting? Since there was something that got corrupted, it's probably a good idea to grab some software like crystaldiskinfo or hwinfo64 and look at the drive SMART data

[cyan ravine]

The e36 I had was M42

[obsidian wigeon]

2021 flagship too, well 2021 phone that was delayed to release in 2022

[cyan ravine]

That one you could throw anything at

M56 replaced it and was pretty good too

Ah the lancer engine I was trying to remember is 4g63

Anyway

[burnt spruce]

it looks like this

[stoic island]

uh what

not CrystalDiskMark

CrystalDiskInfo

[burnt spruce]

https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/

I downloaded this one

[stoic island]

iirc it downloads both at the same time, but you want to look at crystal disk info rn, not crystal disk mark

[burnt spruce]

this ?

[stoic island]

Yes

[burnt spruce]

what to do now ?

[stoic island]

Doesn't look that bad actually

might just be a windows problem not drive

[burnt spruce]

Oh if its a windows problem should I reformat ?

Or any solution to it ?

[stoic island]

prob a good idea to run dism now, type DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth in an admin command prompt

if it's just windows, once its fixed, it'll be fine

[stoic island]

Well, now theoretically windows is fine again, so see if you still get crashes now

[burnt spruce]

Noted on this. Thank you @stoic island. Will msg you just in case it crashes again

Do you guys use W11 instead of 10 nowadays ?

[stoic island]

Windows 11 doesn't offer much over windows 10, but its just eaiser to have w11 now since microsoft will slowly phase out w10 and will stop support it in another year or so

[burnt spruce]

Oh maybe just wait to phase out the support with W10 before switching to W11 ?

[stoic island]

yea you don't have to switch from w10 rn if you don't feel like it

[dusky hearth]

If it's a fresh or reinstall, then might as well go with windows 11
If you're just on windows 10, no need to upgrade right away

[cursive wharf]

@stoic island @burnt spruce There are multiple DISMs to run, and also ideal to run SFC after a dism. Ideally do this: #building-and-recc-chat message

Don't need to DDU, but should do everything else including lowering RAM speed.

[stoic island]

From how its described, it looks to me like restorehealth will do what scanhealth and checkhealth try to do already, so now I just suggest running with restorehealth

but yea should do sfc after dism, forgot about that

[cursive wharf]

It's been considered good to do them separately so idk. I haven't done enough DISMs to know tbf.

[stoic island]

just seems like checkhealth is checking if anything is really noticeable, scanhealth is actually scanning, then restorehealth is scanhealth plus restoring anything it finds

but I'm not too familiar with it

[cursive wharf]

I think I've seen checkhealth fix stuff before. But I never really pay attention to where fixes happen and my memory is worse than c*rsair XMP so can't say for sure.

[stoic island]

reading over the microsoft documentation, this is interesting, might need to look at other sfc options

[limber oyster]

MUCH better than last night

[cursive wharf]

Prolly is concerned about more corruption happening. Like memory errors or smth

[stoic island]

maybe

[crimson zinc]

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m97291209695?sv=0
Is it just me, or is this dude giving away a controller with the easiest fix possible

[potent portal]

It's just some no name $15 controller

It's possible the button mechanism is just bad, or the membrane tore

[burnt spruce]

The screen still freezes and I restarted it now it only loads

And the cpu is running but the monitor only blinks

Technically how to check the prob since the screen freezes and I have to manually restart it

[stoic island]

Wdym now it only loads?

[burnt spruce]

Cpu runs but no display

I checked eventviewer and found this before and on the crashed

[potent portal]

Looks like it's trying and failing to set up some hardware.

[burnt spruce]

How to check what is failing ?

[torn sluice]

I was trying to get into conact with newegg about a gpu i ordered but i dont think i have access to the channel

[burnt spruce]

when the screen freezes

I forced restarted it manually

[torn sluice]

Does anyone know what the delivery exception thing means? I never had that pop up before from something i ordered but this gpu’s coming from Yeston in China

[burnt spruce]

And when I opened the pc the cpu runs but no display

[torn sluice]

Does the cpu have integrated graphics?

[potent portal]

You'd look at one of those device setup manager entries and get the PCI ID

[potent portal]

That usually means the mail carrier has an issue. Could be any number of things, and all of them are outside of Newegg's control.
If it's shipping from China I'm guessing you ordered from a third party seller. Contact that seller.

[torn sluice]

Pain

I just ordered a 7800xt from yeston so id hope thats not the case

[burnt spruce]

the Error level ?

PCI ID is the general ?

mostly the error looks like this

[wild peak]

i was looking at this psu, but i cant tell if it has white stock cables, does anyone happen to know if it does?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKS5GYH2?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[cyan ravine]

This one's better and cheaper with white cables
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qrgrxr/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactorii850g-whcus

[wild peak]

but does the other one have white cables?

[cyan ravine]

I believe it does but it's nowhere near as nice as the one I linked

[wild peak]

ok ill proabably just get that one then

the one you linked

[cyan ravine]

No worries. I don't mind GF A3, I think it's quite good, but only when it sells cheap

[wild peak]

can i ask why its better though

[cyan ravine]

Keeping it brief, going back to when I scanned out reviews for the second gen, I believe it was aris, put it at a much higher tier than the GF A3

GF A3 is about, RMe-ish levels but a bit worse

Meanwhile core reactor ii is like

RMx

Which in simple terms, RMe is like a stripped out RMx

[mossy venture]

The adata one is just an A tier psu with atx 3.0 added

Gf a3 is B tier

[cyan ravine]

They're both good units, but yeah, the II is both cheaper and stronger so I would go that one

[wild peak]

should i get cable extensions

[cyan ravine]

Can you see the psu in the case?

Cos if you can't, you could get an even cheaper unit with extensions instead and forego the colour

[wild peak]

one sec ill check

[cyan ravine]

Asiahorse extensions with like an A850GF or A850GL for example

[wild peak]

i dont think you can

https://www.newegg.com/white-phanteks-eclipse-g360a-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854117

[cyan ravine]

Yea that's one with the psu invisible

Are you making a new build?

[wild peak]

yeah

[cyan ravine]

Would you prefer me to make a quick list

Takes 5 minutes

[wild peak]

well i already have the mobo, cpu and gpu

but sure

[cyan ravine]

So it's just ssd, ram, psu case and cooler

[wild peak]

yeah

[cyan ravine]

1tb or 2tb, and rgb yes or no

Also ddr4 or ddr5

And lastly which CPU and gpu are we talking about

[wild peak]

1 tb, rgb, ddr5, 5 7600X, 4070 super

[little osprey]

anyone know the best white gaming chair in amazon?

Under $140?

[cyan ravine]

Which mobo sorry lol

[wild peak]

B650 Aorus elite ax ice

[cyan ravine]

Jeez that's an expensive board

[little osprey]

thank you for providing me with a lawn chair

[wild peak]

you are very welcome

[wild peak]

i needed something that was am5 ATX and white

[cyan ravine]

What are you using the pc for

[wild peak]

gaming

[cyan ravine]

Ok. Here's what I have in mind. Use Asiahorse 16awg white extensions, or cablemod RT if you can find them used for cheap

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zqjd7R

[wild peak]

is 750W enough?

[cyan ravine]

There are a bunch of alternatives however for white motherboards since this is just a gaming build, if you still have the chance, I would go back and get an Asrock pro rs matx and a 7600 non-x, then grab a case like the lian li 205m

Also known as the sama argb-q5

750w is insane overkill

That system would run on a good 550w if you picked the right one

[wild peak]

ok

[cyan ravine]

Changing the board, cpu and ram would save you probably about 140 or so

And you could upgrade the gpu with that to 4070 ti easily

Or 7900xt

Good 20% uplift in fps and no loss anywhere else

Example
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hwL3Jy

Damn the 4070 ti hiked up overnight

That used to be sub 700

Argb-q5 used to be known as a lian li case sold exclusively by micro center

Called the 205m mesh

Or that may have been the 185m and the IM01

Either way, Sama was a Lian Li oem and the case is quite good

[wild peak]

whats the difference between these two and which is better

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3HGJ4V7?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LHNPVLS/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=AWD7GDDT7Q2ZT&th=1

because the second is cheaper but has a high mhz rating

[cyan ravine]

It's not hynix so the second one is slower

[crimson zinc]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1VK-028J-00075?Item=9SIB7VEJ694924&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIB7VEJ694924-_-05042024

wtf is this

[worn wave]

DIY Amazon FireStick basically

[dusky hearth]

DIY? What part of this is doing it yourself

[worn wave]

Software

These style of systems are also useful for digital signage

[dusky hearth]

I mean, you could do that with a fire stick as well

[worn wave]

Yeah, of course you could

[little osprey]

Am having a problom with my pc. It will randomly turn off, when I turn it back on it will not have any video???? Started happening 2 days ago

[mossy venture]

Immediate thought would be psu protections are being tripped/wattage is being exceeded, or a connection came loose

What psu, cpu, and gpu

[little osprey]

4060 ti, Ryzen 7800 x3d, 850 watt Deepcool or something like that !

Be quiet! Gold 850 Watt PSU

Just started happening yesterday, while it was on idle

Had it for like 5 months now

I took out the PSU power put it back in and now I have video

Like the hell is going on????

I would leave my computer, the monitor would turn black to save energy, I click space on my keyboard and the monitor would come back on but sometimes it doesn’t get back in, get no video. Turn off the pc, remove the PSU power and then put it back. Get video after that

@mossy venture thoughts?

It’s not overheating I know for sure, pc is a good 40 C

Only happens when I stop using the pc after 1 hour ish

[little osprey]

Fans are still spinning and stuff so how would it be the PSU?

^Normal temps

[mossy venture]

That's very weird

Could try disabling igpu

[little osprey]

in nvidia settings?

[frigid jackal]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLCYfDvM/

Thoughts on this case? not gonna buy it but it looks dumb idk

very aesthetically

[mossy venture]

Pretty sure it's bios

I haven't had to do it before

Fal felix or foxy would probably know (why does everyone's name start with an f)

[little osprey]

ok thanks cutie

@cyan ravine @little osprey if you cuties would like to help a brother out

it would be awesome

[dusky hearth]

for itx, it's fine ig

[crimson zinc]

It’s the “aesthetics” case. Doesn’t do anything special but doesn’t choke your build if it’s mid range

[rancid lodge]

Hey all, solid timings for DDR5-6000? Not had to look into DDR5 timings until now so

[fossil cedar]

Manual? Xmp?

[rancid lodge]

XMP probably, not gonna bother with manual

just want a solid kit

For Ryzen 7000

Probably looking at 7900x3D, heard productivity difference between non 3D and 3D was minor anyways although idk about that given the 50w difference in TDP

I do a solid amount of both productivity and gaming and that lower TDP and being more efficient, even in the case of being maybe marginally worse in productivity, sounds like a solid trade off

[fossil cedar]

Just be warned that the 7900x3d can be finicky and just not work correctly on games @potent portal may be able to explain more, believe they have one

You in the US?

[rancid lodge]

Yeah it’s late for me, so gonna sleep soon but

Stability issues in games isn’t one I’ve heard

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HNZXsY/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-flbd532g6000hc30dc01

Would get this

[rancid lodge]

Yeah looks perfect thanks, will check back for info on that mentioned instability issue tomorrow when I wake up

[fossil cedar]

No probs

[potent portal]

The issue is when the game isn't aware that there's multiple CCDs and it tries to switch between them. It's especially bad in games that can use more than 6 cores.
You get a full half second or more stutter and it's really annoying. Sometimes you can fix it with process lasso but other times you have to just disable the second CCD.

Most larger games run perfectly fine once they've had a few patches. I've encountered this mainly on smaller studio and indie games.

[crimson zinc]

Do I have it running with XMP enabled?

MSI bios confuses me

I fixed it

I had auto enabled

[wild peak]

should i get an h6 flow or a Phanteks Eclipse G360A case i dont really care too much about the price difference

[dusk sorrel]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HPFzrv

should i change motherboard or nah

[burnt spruce]

Anyone can help me ? my pc keeps freezing

[fossil cedar]

Don't waste money on thermal paste, cooler comes with perfectly acceptable paste, those fans etc are overpriced
Would do this, just as good for wayy cheaper
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/GPjt28

[fossil cedar]

Try turn off game bar

[mossy venture]

^^

Much better list

[burnt spruce]

Done with this

[dusk sorrel]

i have all my parts already except my mb 😭

[earnest olive]

kryonaut is worse than the included paste unless you want to replace it way more often

it's not designed for long term daily use

[cyan ravine]

Kryonaut is known to last 6 months at most

[earnest olive]

yup

[cyan ravine]

It's high performance is credited to it's liquidity as it's a very wet paste, which evaporates and loses it's efficacy fast

Just like hydronaut

If you want to pick a high performance paste that has life in it, MX-6 is about as close to that as it gets without costing a fortune in the process, otherwise you'd pick PTM which is just plain better than everything else period

And ptm is a pain to apply

Not impossible just annoying lol

[earnest olive]

how does ptm stack up against lm?

[cyan ravine]

LM is far and wide better

[crimson zinc]

G360a

[earnest olive]

was curious cause people talk about it like a gift from the gods lol

[cyan ravine]

Depending on the circumstances it's ±MX-6 but with a supposed infinite service life and perfect spread

Or KPX

[earnest olive]

my laptop has already gotten to the point of a "forever" lm application

full saturation

[cyan ravine]

Some high density applications benefit from it though

[earnest olive]

it's nice never needing to replace it again

[cyan ravine]

A lot of people use PTM for XTX for example as the heat density is strong enough to *cause eventual dry out

So PTM is a bit of a weapon of choice, the cards ship with them stock as well

No clear explanation why it happens, but I believe the chiplet design adds ridges for air to get in from a permanently uneven contact

Who knows though, I'm not prepared to study it for 6 months in pieces lol

[wild peak]

Why

[burnt spruce]

Now

Anyone knows whats the red color light ?

[crimson zinc]

It has good flow, looks cool, and has good space

[pseudo pollen]

personal preference really

[pseudo pollen]

Depends on the motherboard

there should be some inscription near it, if not then look at mobo manual to see which one it is

[potent portal]

Can you get a closer pic, there's usually 4 lights there

[manic cloak]

Well isn’t that inconvenient

Different person, same model(?) and it’s same price. Only issue is it’s WAYYY up north compared to last seller

[honest knot]

Cheapest 4070ti on eBay atm

There is like 9 left and is on sale

https://www.ebay.com/itm/386868525451 @manic cloak

[manic cloak]

Ya I know @honest knot but basically idk if this is the E version or not

[honest knot]

E version?

[manic cloak]

And the E is basically just an upgraded vram and lil more power efficient

Basically E for efficient

[honest knot]

I didn't know that

[manic cloak]

Mhm they have two versions for the MSI ventus atleast

[honest knot]

Ventus...

Are you interested in that GPU for upgrade?

[manic cloak]

Well..

I have a 7800xt pulse.

Obvious by the name

[honest knot]

Hehe

Should be enough then

[manic cloak]

But I was told it isn’t worth the upgrade really

Although I could sell it

[honest knot]

Oh funny thing is... I have the same config

13600k/7800xt

Let's go

[manic cloak]

😭

[honest knot]

Yessir we buddies now

[manic cloak]

Mhm

But just a quick little fill in

I think 2-3 days ago maybe

Same thing occurred

Same model, price, etc

This

Oooo

And possibly this

[honest knot]

Eh

I'd still rock with the 7800xt

[manic cloak]

6950xt is 400$

[honest knot]

I mean if you really want to

It is faster

7900GRE also exists

[manic cloak]

I guess so but that’s about what.. 560$?

In general perspective I don’t think my 750w EVGA GT could run the 6950xt

Just a quick resell

[honest knot]

Mmm

[manic cloak]

Possibly 450-500$

[honest knot]

Well if it's successful enjoy the 6950xt, at least you can go the extra mile with MPT (more power tool)

[manic cloak]

Eh, its just iffy for me is all

If I managed to sell the 7800xt should I even get the 4070ti

I’ve never had Nivida before

[honest knot]

If you like what Nvidia is offering then yes

[manic cloak]

Idk what it does offer except for DLSS and RT tbh

I know AMD driver hub is amazing

Along with some features

But idk about nivida

[honest knot]

Are you interested in nvidia's features? Do you want to game with a 12gb vram GPU?

Don't get me wrong that GPU is fast

Just gotta research what you like and if it's the best option for you

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture I need a build for a friend around $400.
He needs wifi+bluetooth.

[mossy venture]

for what

[crimson zinc]

Entry level gaming

[mossy venture]

used?

[crimson zinc]

Sure.

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bx4KTY

$5 bt adapter

actually one sec

lemme swap mobo

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xPRLN6

if they buy other parts used can add more budget for gpu

[manic cloak]

Idk what it really offers

[crimson zinc]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/364877494098?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=tytxua9arxg&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

@mossy venture look like anything wrong with this?

It’s a TI, not a super, but should perform similar

[mossy venture]

ti>super

ventus bad but its a low power gpu

prolly will run loud tho

[potent portal]

New seller

Not inherently a red flag, maybe a yellow flag

[crimson zinc]

Similar

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115921820249?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=dNs4eqn6R0K&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/335377763255?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=h_jegne4qjw&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=rej26bxrr_g&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

This too.

[potent portal]

None of those three sellers have much experience selling, if any

Just something to be aware of

[crimson zinc]

Welp, they gotta start somewhere.

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m85596218428?sv=0

Minus the ram, might be good to resell?

Or maybe part out for future builds

Oh shi

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m40744154188?sv=0

Dude probably just doesn’t have windows LMAO

[burnt spruce]

anyone knows how to fix this ? I already uninstalled the ryzen master and clear the registry

but I still encounter screen freezes not sure if its because of this

[cyan ravine]

Iirc that pops up on my system and I never even had ryzen master installed once

Not aware of the whole story but I'd wager that ryzen master probably isn't the issue

[weary galleon]

Yeah at 120W tdp I wouldn't worry too much abt ventus cooler

[crimson zinc]

https://item.mercari.com/gl/m40744154188?sv=0

@mossy venture guy is offering 200 for it

Worth?

[mossy venture]

300 is a solid price already

If that's actually a 2060

It isn't

Msi doesn't have a single fan 2060 I don't believe

Unless that's ventus 2x and it's just that small

[crimson zinc]

Correct

The chrome side on the last few pics.

[weary galleon]

Not a 2060

Not even a 6gb 1060

[crimson zinc]

I sent him a message about it.
Hasn’t responded.

[weary galleon]

don't bother

could report the posting

[stoic island]

yea it's a 1060 ocv1

[weary galleon]

if it was a 2060 6gb i could see an honest mistake, but this is just lying

no way someone mistakes a 3gb 1060 for a 2060 super

[crimson zinc]

I’ll see if he knocks it down $100 or so.
I still want the parts from it lmao

Easy resell

[earnest olive]

1060 3gb is gonna be hard to sell

very few people want that

[cyan ravine]

I'd try and get 150 back

[crimson zinc]

Sell it locally
Or put it in a budget build

[pseudo pollen]

ok so I have a pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4YsHFs

how much do yall think I can get for it

[crimson zinc]

I’d pay maybe $700 for it

[pseudo pollen]

crap

[crimson zinc]

Being used

If some parts are brand new, I’d go closer to $825-850

[pseudo pollen]

cpu, case, fans, gpu, ssd, and cooler were all upgrades from the original build

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture what’s your take dawg

[mossy venture]

to the right buyer i could see 1k

actual value like 750 or so? not sure

[pseudo pollen]

I'm just thinking if I can sell it for like a grand I should be golden to get a new pc that performs better (no reason to do so, just is an idea of mine)

[mossy venture]

dont want to do a part by part appraisal rn

[pseudo pollen]

Technically if it's all new parts it should be well over a grand, but gpu isn't worth that much anymore

[mossy venture]

275-300 for gpu

[pseudo pollen]

more like $200 lol

[mossy venture]

a 3070? what are you on

[pseudo pollen]

That's what I saw it going for like 6 months ago

shouldn't it have gone down in price?

[cyan ravine]

200 for 3070 sounds like a fire sale price

[pseudo pollen]

ig i'm just out of the loop

selling individual parts would probably be more cost effective

[cyan ravine]

relatively speaking a 3070 I could see for 250, 300 seems like normal or ebay levels

[pseudo pollen]

but ebay takes wayyy too much for it to be worth it

funny thing is I bought my gpu for $400 about a year ago iirc, and a few months later they dropped to $200, now they're $300

[cyan ravine]

Checking a bunch of recent HWS articles I see 260-300

[pseudo pollen]

I still have boxes for mostly everything rn

so in box would probably raise value, no?

[cyan ravine]

sure

$300 doesn't seem unrealistic shipped

[pseudo pollen]

thinking of selling locally

so probably won't get as much

[crimson zinc]

@pseudo pollen do you live in the US?

[pseudo pollen]

yessir

[crimson zinc]

Try Mercari.

Been selling on there for years.

You’ll have to post a little lower to get some bites, but buyer pays all the fees.

[pseudo pollen]

are there seller fees?

[weary galleon]

buyer pays all the fees

[leaden mauve]

I could've sworn there were seller fees

[weary galleon]

They recently like revamped their structure I think

[pseudo pollen]

I'll try that, thanks!

might not do this whole ordeal though, just seeing how much I could get towards an upgrade without spending anything out of pocket

These microcenter deals are too enticing

[leaden mauve]

Oh nice

[crimson zinc]

They now offer no fees for selling. But they have a low “you gotta file a form for taxes” floor.
I think it’s like $200.

[weary galleon]

'No selling fees', but they still push fees to buyer so you'll likely have to price your item lower for it to sell. Still gotta make money.

[manic cloak]

So how do monitor arms work, like ones off of amazon?

cause I plan on buying one for the element EM3FGAB27BS monitor cause the stand is just a non tilt non raise piece of metal

but the pattern on the back of it is different

[weary galleon]

Find out what the mounting pattern is, then buy an arm with that pattern

[stoic island]

It's generally vesa 100x100, rarely something different

[hot heath]

Hello Im looking to extend PSU about 60 cm .. has anyone done this before with 2 extenders?

[potent portal]

That would work in theory but you get more potential points of failure the more things you connect

[cyan ravine]

Should work but most don't recommend extending twice yeah

Some custom cable brands sell custom kits that extend a lot longer than the normal ones, food for thought @hot heath

[potent portal]

Cablemod for one yes, good suggestion

https://store.cablemod.com/configurator/

[cyan ravine]

Ye cablemod, moddiy too, they're solid

[lone flame]

https://www.newegg.com/acer-bifrost-video-card-dp-z3aww-p01-amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814553008?Item=N82E16814553008

does anyone buy acer gpus

i havent heard anything about them in terms of quality

[analog hearth]

Didn’t even know they made GPUs

[lone flame]

i kind of did but

i forgot

[crimson zinc]

Barely

7

[analog hearth]

7

This guy typing up a story

[hoary furnace]

So what are the chances I can run a build by someone for some input/recommendations? (It's my first build) I want to make sure parts are fully compatible and I won't have anything in unaware of, like parts limiting other's, etc?

[lone flame]

thats what alot of people in here help others with, ask your questions in here and someone smarter than me will probably come help lol

[crimson zinc]

Shoot the list into this chat and we can help

[hoary furnace]

Is it okay to post a link to the list?

[crimson zinc]

Yes.

[hoary furnace]

https://newegg.io/4cfe3e9

I appreciate any input and help. Thank you all

[crimson zinc]

Let me help you save a few bucks

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJwhpB

Something simple

The 14900 have too many issues rn that are not being fixed to make them worth purchasing

@hoary furnace if you can find that case in stock anywhere, it’s worth a buy.

MB is $20 off rn

If anyone else wants to chime in for a second opinion, that would also help.

[hoary furnace]

So a few things. First off, I'm not overly worried costwise as it's a work thing, and I use it for heavy use outside of work as well.

[crimson zinc]

Gpu is whatever you really want. Cheaper listed ones tend to have coil whine.

[crimson zinc]

Cost wise, it’s better to just get more efficient things.
I don’t want you to waste your money.

If you want to use the PC for workstation, switch that 7800x3d to a 7950x3d for better workstation perf

But if you game, that 7800x3d is just too good

[hoary furnace]

Agreed. Second I am interested in 2x hdmi off rip, but can settle for an adapter. Nit a big deal. I do prefer a good 10x USB though for connections

So I definitely don't know much about intel over amd. Just for knowledge sake, may I ask why?

[crimson zinc]

I think @obsidian wigeon might be able to help with that

[crimson zinc]

They’re both good.
The latest intel chips just have a lot of degradation issues that intel refuses to fix or actually listen to concerns for.

Ooo, @mossy venture would know.

[mossy venture]

What do you do work wise

[crimson zinc]

~~I should’ve asked that first ~~

[hoary furnace]

Work wise not a whole lot. A lot of advertising, video work, etc. Off work, heavy gaming and video creation

[crimson zinc]

64GB of ram might be a good investment for video creation then

[mossy venture]

Any specific aesthetic you want?

And do you need wifi, or are you using ethernet?

[hoary furnace]

Numbers wise, I say the 2 hdmi, a good 10x usb, Bluetooth, 64gb ram are my main focuses i think

Ethernet

Nothing crazy necessary, I like a glass tower with a solid steel frame like the one original shown

But down for options

[mossy venture]

First option
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/syV7jH

Second
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xyq3DZ

Can swap parts between the two however, I wouldn't bother with the 14900k. It's the 13900k with a 100mhz overclock, abt a 1-2% difference that you could achieve with changing one number in bios

[crimson zinc]

Bacca showin me up once again

[hoary furnace]

I'm liking both of those. I was interested in the 4080 super instead.. thanks for these

Time for a stupid question. What is with all the different types of graphics cards, like PNY shown there for example? What differences should I be looking for in those?

Is there an alternate motherboard you would suggest with more USB ports? I see 8 i believe there

[leaden raft]

why pc lag(says i have 8.6/31.9gb in use of memory)

[muted egret]

lag comes from wifi/internet

[leaden raft]

not talking about internet lag, talking about framerate

[muted egret]

then gpu to monitor

most likely

[leaden raft]

wait what

thats a thing

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08C7BNJ46/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

could this actually be causing the framerate loss on my pc

[mossy venture]

It doesnt really matter too much especially with 40 series

Btw you can get a USB hub for like $10-15 on amazon and not have to worry about it at all

But I'll grab some options

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y9bTwP/asrock-z790-steel-legend-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-steel-legend-wifi

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GG26Mp/gigabyte-z790-aorus-elite-x-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-aorus-elite-x-ax

Not many boards with 10 ports really

[mossy venture]

Wait

I completely forgot abt a major issues intel has rn with their high tier chips just dying

Let me change my lists rq

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rnMcKX

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mjskt7

[crimson zinc]

What the heck is that design for that board

[mossy venture]

12 usb ports tho

[crimson zinc]

True

But such a bold colour scheme

[mossy venture]

13*

[analog hearth]

lmaooo it's so ugly

[mossy venture]

+1 usb c

[potent portal]

Livemixer is lowkey goated

(I'm totally not biased as an owner of one)

[analog hearth]

2006 ahh mobo design

[mossy venture]

Could do eagle ax or this too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tz2WGX/asrock-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-b650e-pg-riptide-wifi

[hoary furnace]

With a design like that, who needs rgb

Just let that man shine through the glass

[potent portal]

Most of that will be covered by the CPU cooler and GPU anyway

[hoary furnace]

Thank you for all your help. I truly appreciate it. This has helped tremendously. I'll be finalizing it all shortly. Wish me luck

[manic cloak]

I was wondering what truly are some good headsets, wired or wireless. I’ve had this razer tournament kraken for so long and it’s hard playing stereo instead of surround sound due to me not wanting the 95 daily synapse pop ups

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hyperx-cloud-ii-wireless-gaming-headset-(black-red)? saw this but I watched a few and people said it was alright

[obsidian wigeon]

cloud ii is pretty good

according to rtings

[manic cloak]

Ya I saw that and a few other opinions

Idk if it’s the best option right now or?

[potent portal]

I have the wired cloud II, it's decent enough for the price

Surround sound on a headset is fake 99% of the time also

Real surround sound needs multiple speakers

[manic cloak]

Ya tbh I don’t like surround sound

It’s so disorienting to me

If it were to be like “it’s to the left of you” and footsteps play in my left ear cool that works

But if it plays audio in both ears it ain’t helping me

Anywho what’s the difference between core, stinger and just cloud?

[potent portal]

That'll depend on the game you're playing, not just the headset

[manic cloak]

CS2, rust, fortnite, roblox 😭, Minecraft, hellduvers 2

[potent portal]

iirc
Core is a cheaper, basic version
Stinger is the "ooh shiny" gamery one
Regular falls in the middle

I know at least 2 of those do proper directional audio but the others...

Oh looks like MC does directional audio as of 1.19

Rust seems like it's as bad as I remember when I tried a demo, everyone hates the audio

[obsidian wigeon]

Core sucks

[potent portal]

CS2 seems like they did a weird hybrid directional audio thing where they mix the channels

Fornite has decent audio. Enable "visualize sound effects" for best results.

Helldivers I can't find much info on except lots of bugs, and not the kind you can shoot

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

Issues democracy can't fix

[burnt spruce]

Anyone know how to match the resolution I'm using one 1080p and 1440p?

How to make both 1440p in resolution only for extend these display. I tried super resolution in AMD

[cyan ravine]

Are both monitors 1440p

If not then it won't work afaik

[gleaming arrow]

I give up on trying to get a good deal on a 5700/XT Which of these is the lesser evil? https://www.ebay.com/itm/276453409487 https://www.ebay.com/itm/166715831252 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155737954389

[autumn gulch]

Just send them a lower offer

[gleaming arrow]

For which one

I can't even put a offer lower than like 145-150 for the Nitro+

[autumn gulch]

If u have 150 go for 2070 or 2070 super

5700xt is worse

[gleaming arrow]

linux and egpu :P

both things I believe work better with amd (not sure on egpu)

[limber oyster]

FOUND A WIFI CARD

Took it out of a tp-link ax3000

[autumn gulch]

Ah, yeah kinda, maybe 6600xt

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I uh

I just bit the bullet on the nitro+ 5700 XT I linked

:P

[autumn gulch]

For how much

Oh well enjoy

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Asking 💀

Tbf, Nitro+ is a higher end 5700xt so I know those usually go for more (140 - 160), Annnnd getting that quick shipping premium, but still 😭 that hurts 😭

[autumn gulch]

So 140?

[gleaming arrow]

No 💀 175 + tax 💀

[autumn gulch]

💀 oh, well at least it’s a higher end 5700xt

[gleaming arrow]

Yeah 💀

Could've been in better condition tho 💀

[limber oyster]

I spent $425 on a Taichi OC 16GB 6800xt

[wild peak]

Does anyone have recommendations on a cpu fan, I was planning on using the thermal right peerless assassin 120 SE but when I installed it, it was too long and was interfering with my ram

[wild peak]

Preferably thermalright as my case fans are thermalright and I’d like all my fans to match

[wild peak]

And preferably not a dual tower due to what happened with the last one

[cyan ravine]

Move the fan to the back or move it up on the front to clear the ram

It's designed to do both these things

[wild peak]

Can move it to the back bc of the ports thing idk what it’s called

And it looks bad if it’s moved up

[weary galleon]

can you send a pic?

[cyan ravine]

The io cover?

[weary galleon]

or VRM heatsink maybe

[cyan ravine]

You should have ample room in the back

[wild peak]

I can in a minute

Just not rn

And by a minute I mean 20

But I’ll send a pic

[wild peak]

@cyan ravine

There

I can’t put the other fan on the outside see

[cyan ravine]

Can

Move it up a tiny bit

[wild peak]

But that looks bad

[cyan ravine]

Do you want 2 fans or do you want aesthetics

I'm not a magician lol

[wild peak]

I’ll see how it looks once I’ve built it and decide

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[wild peak]

And then you can’t see the ram very well

[potent portal]

What CPU was it

Something mid or low tier you could probably get away with a smaller cooler

[wild peak]

5 7600X

[potent portal]

Oh that's absolutely happy with a single tower

No need for the second fan probably

[wild peak]

So should I return this one and get a single tower

[potent portal]

You can keep this and just use the one fan

[wild peak]

I kind of want to see the fans rgb though

[potent portal]

It sounds like you've made up your mind already

[wild peak]

Can you recommend any?

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP8QLN8Q

[wild peak]

Ok

[cyan ravine]

You gotta pick one sacrifice here

[cyan ravine]

Lp cooler

Guessing you already know this tho

[wild peak]

I just need one that’s like 100mm

Or less

[cyan ravine]

Any white thermalright single tower is fine

Like just about all of them

[wild peak]

So that one is fine?

[cyan ravine]

Pick your poison and aim for $20

It is yeah

[potent portal]

Other options https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/YwbTwP,vHH7YJ,7TddnQ,r3kH99/

[cyan ravine]

Just won't be as strong as the other thermalrights due to decreased fin stack hieght

[potent portal]

Won't matter for a 7600X but maybe if you upgraded to something that uses more power later like a 9800X

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[wild peak]

Should I get the last one

The spirit 120 evo

Since it has the highest rpm

[potent portal]

Whichever one looks the best to you, they'll perform effectively the same

[wild peak]

So then I should one with a lower decibel rating?

If they’ll perform the same

[potent portal]

Don't bother with CFM or dB specs from the manufacturer

Everyone measures it differently