building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

That's true

Inside everyone is a linus

[dusky hearth]

All the active accounts on this discord is just all our alts talking to each other

What a sad life we live in

[cyan ravine]

I'm actually just a bot

[dusky hearth]

Oh

Am I a bot as well

[cyan ravine]

Sorry I've been programmed to confess specifically when the topic came up

Please subscribe to chatgpt-5

[dusky hearth]

I don't have money

AIs do not have wallets

[cyan ravine]

Then perish

Bidenblast

[dusky hearth]

I have 5 copies in my archives

[cyan ravine]

Finally found an emoji I don't seem to have

Bidenblast 💀

[dusky hearth]

You're so Portuguese

[obsidian wigeon]

i regret stumbling into an apple bootlicker channel

[dusky hearth]

You mean #mac-os-and-ios

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

no

a yt channel

[cyan ravine]

Surprised you know of any that aren't

[dusky hearth]

Lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

fpt. aka front page tech

one of the many apple shilling channels on yt

[cyan ravine]

Watch some jerryrigeverything

You'll feel better

[obsidian wigeon]

beautiful apple destruction vids?

hell yeah

i almost had a lapse

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wigeon]

an urge to buy iphones

but yknow android much better

[weary galleon]

Imo iphones can be an alright purchase if you keep it and use it for 4-5 years. But the people who buy a new one every year or every other year are pretty stupid

[obsidian wigeon]

thing is said iphones i could afford were like from 2019

iphone x, xs, xr

the older stuff

[weary galleon]

yeah im guessing android devices have better regional pricing

[obsidian wigeon]

it was either s21 fe or 2019 iphones for me

[lone flame]

I used my first phone, iphone 6s for like 8 years

[obsidian wigeon]

so i went s21 anyway

[weary galleon]

6s was crazy

[obsidian wigeon]

i could keep iphones for that long too but

i had ios app support concerns

and the fact that 64gb ain't enough anyway

128gb i could find but they're a tad too rare

[dusky hearth]

iPhones are good if you're a vtuber

The faceid is very good at tracking facial expressions

[weary galleon]

Can do like depth scanning for making 3d meshes as well (might be pro model only, not sure)

[obsidian wigeon]

they charge painfully slowly

the old iphones

[weary galleon]

My iphone 8 charged fairly fast

Overall battery wasn't amazing though

[cold sorrel]

I feel bad I stopped tracking tech info for so long.

[crimson zinc]

I do not have one

I’ll check a local pc shop

[gleaming arrow]

Is there a specific 5700 XT one should go for?

Or ones to avoid?

[obsidian wigeon]

any will work

msi evoke is the one you wanna avoid

[cyan ravine]

Larger is better

[plucky timber]

Sapphire is generally solid

[crimson zinc]

I’ve yet to hear too many bad things about them

[lone flame]

is there a reason you are going for a 5700 XT specifically?

[gleaming arrow]

Broke as hell

Best budget upgrade I believe

[lone flame]

valid 💀

[lean anchor]

Soooo, I got it built and cpu is dysfunctional

No output image and the red light stays solid for the post status.

It looks like some of the pins are bent on the board -_-

Also to point out it could just be my eyes for the pins, but I will say that the CPU light is solid, DRAM blinks and VGA and BOOT don't even light up.

So maybe I messed up

[plucky timber]

I doubt it's the cpu

It's probably just the usual first build shenanigans

[lean anchor]

Okay I hope you're right, any suggestions?

[plucky timber]

From the top?

Show me pictures of every single cable connection of the pc

[lean anchor]

Right now it's messy I know

I need to clean betterXP

[obsidian wigeon]

Everything looks fine

[plucky timber]

where is the cpu cooler?

[obsidian wigeon]

But you forgot cooler

[plucky timber]

I assume you removed it

to troubleshoot

[lean anchor]

I have

[obsidian wigeon]

it does kinda look like it had paste on it

[plucky timber]

CPU power looks right, 24 pin looks right

[obsidian wigeon]

but cleaned

[plucky timber]

on the gpu?

[obsidian wigeon]

Have you waited at least 5 mins for first POST?

AM5 usually takes long to train ram

[plucky timber]

have you plugged in the gpu

[lean anchor]

Now I will admit this is the only connection I found, so I could be missing something

[plucky timber]

no no

that's correct

[lean anchor]

Okay it's been 20 years since I built one so things have changed quite a bit

[plucky timber]

oh so it's not your first build

thank god

[lean anchor]

Well first modern

[plucky timber]

the fundamentals haven't changed much so

[lean anchor]

Last time I built one GeForce 2 was a thing

And 80gb was huge

[plucky timber]

hmm

looks like you have a vertical gpu setup

could it be the pcie riser?

[lean anchor]

I mean it could be, but it's seated really well.

[plucky timber]

could be the ram

have you tried reseating it?

[lean anchor]

Second photo is a bit odd, but without pulling out the gpu it will be near impossible to get the shot

[plucky timber]

hmm

I'd reseat ram if you haven't already

[lean anchor]

Did that just before posting here

[plucky timber]

hmm

[lean anchor]

Power does stay on the whole time, but if I plug a monitor into the gpu or the MB it says no signal

Also would need to reseat cooler before prolonged running

[dusky hearth]

this shouldnt affect anything, but you should have your ram sticks one slot to the right

[lean anchor]

A2 and b2?

[dusky hearth]

also ddr5 takes a few minutes for memory training or whatever, so maybe try leaving it for 10 mins

yeah

the.... silkscreen print? on the pcb also shows it

[lean anchor]

Vga solid, then boot solid, cpu off and DRAM off

Ram seems to have slightly fixed it

Hdmi no signal

Vga and BOOT still no go

[obsidian wigeon]

Wait, where are you connecting your monitor to?

You should hook it up to the gpu if you haven't

[lean anchor]

I have

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm

[lean anchor]

Build just shut down

Full power down

I got cursor

!

In boot

[obsidian wigeon]

Sounds like it's working

But no bootable devices

[lean anchor]

Keeps shutting down though

[obsidian wigeon]

Try getting into the bios

If that doesn't work, try doing a cmos reset

Find the coin battery or a reset header

[lean anchor]

It went to bios

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay, that's working then

You can install os on it now

[lean anchor]

Okay first things first

How long should it stay in the bios before shutting itself down?

I get 5 min and it turns itself off

[obsidian wigeon]

It shouldn't shut down until you tell it to

5 mins is probably long enough to cause the cpu without any cooling to heat up enough to need a shut down

It's working as intended

[lean anchor]

It's back on with new paste

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm

I'd watch cpu temp in the bios

[lean anchor]

Ok where can I find that?

[obsidian wigeon]

It should be in basic/easy mode menu

Or the first menu

[lean anchor]

Well it booted to the windows installer so if it makes it through installation then I will check then

[obsidian wigeon]

That works too

[lean anchor]

-_-

Cpu 95c XD

No wonder

[obsidian wigeon]

yeap

It's bad mount or the pump isn't connected properly

[lean anchor]

Okay it's a 3 pin and the spot on the board for it is a 4

[obsidian wigeon]

What does the connector look like?

I suspect it's argb cable

[lean anchor]

It comes right off the pump

[obsidian wigeon]

Ahh that's the pump cable

[lean anchor]

I also couldn't hear it running

[obsidian wigeon]

You can connect it to 4 pin fan header still

Yeah it's not hooked up lol

Hook it up to cpu fan or pump header

They're the same

[lean anchor]

That's just it, it was hooked up

80 and climbing

88

[obsidian wigeon]

Are the fans on the rad spinning?

[lean anchor]

98

Yup

104

[obsidian wigeon]

Wait

Is there any plastic covering the coldplate of the aio?

The part making contact with the cpu

[lean anchor]

Nope

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay

[lean anchor]

Shut down at 110

[obsidian wigeon]

Let's try mounting the cooler again

It sounds to me like a bad mount

And reapply paste ofc

[lean anchor]

Okay reseated

72c

82c

92c

[lean anchor]

I reapplied more paste, have enough for one more mount

[obsidian wigeon]

Oof

Either the pump is what's wrong or you kept getting the mount wrong

[lean anchor]

Kept getting it wrong

Honestly hate this bracket

[obsidian wigeon]

rip

[lean anchor]

Let's try again

Still climbing where should I sit at with an aio

[dusky hearth]

Nowhere near 90

[lean anchor]

82

[dusky hearth]

That is still high

[lean anchor]

Chassis fan 3 isn't working

[dusky hearth]

Unless you're in a 70c room lmao

Is pump running fine now

It should be set to 100% in bios with no curve generally

[lean anchor]

Fans are running, can't really feel the pump going

[dusky hearth]

Hmm

Is there a tach reading for the pump in the bios

[lean anchor]

12351

[dusky hearth]

That seems strangely high I think? Usually I see it more around like 800rpm

Hmm

1800*

[lean anchor]

12371

[dusky hearth]

Well, at least we know that it is running

[dusky hearth]

What aio is this

[lean anchor]

Pump is not running

Thermalright

[dusky hearth]

Notte?

Pump Rated Speed：5300 RPM±10% (MAX)

Definitely abnormal

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm starting to believe the aio is ded

[dusky hearth]

Yeah same

[lean anchor]

Doa?

How often does that happen?

[obsidian wigeon]

Pretty slim chance

But if you're unlucky enough you get a bad one

[lean anchor]

I got it to change though

Went from 12371 to 12501

Then back down

[obsidian wigeon]

The pump probably shouldn't run that fast

It's definitely broken

[lean anchor]

Hmmm

[dusky hearth]

Gonna go sleep, 0330 here

[lean anchor]

225 here

I'll hit it in the morning and buy more compound

[dusky hearth]

And yeah, chances of your unit being faulty is pretty high considering the symptoms

[lean anchor]

Okay have any recommendations then?

For an AIO that is

[cyan ravine]

What going on

[dusky hearth]

You could try to get a replacement

[cyan ravine]

Is this a new aio

[lean anchor]

Yes the one you and 111 recommended me 😛

[dusky hearth]

Aio pump going 2x speed of rated speed and not moving water at all

According to tach

[cyan ravine]

Is it new

[dusky hearth]

And tach value is changing

[lean anchor]

It is

[cyan ravine]

Warranty it

Unfortunate but just get a new one from them

[dusky hearth]

Anyways 🛌

[cyan ravine]

It's supposed to be one of the best aio's on the market, there's not really a better alternative

Liquid freezer 3 gets close but it's still not better

[dusky hearth]

This is a prime example why I prefer air cooling

[cyan ravine]

This is a prime example of not normal

Lol

[dusky hearth]

Less potential for failure

[cyan ravine]

Aios are fine

[lean anchor]

This one

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Very good one

It runs as good as Asus' ryujin iii and ek's nucleus but for a fraction of the price and still a 5 year warranty

With a12x25 noctuas for fans

[lean anchor]

So should I go through Amazon or them?

[cyan ravine]

Amazon

Tell them the cpu is clearly overheating, you repasted to check, it's just not working

[lean anchor]

Okay, I suppose I will have to wait then

[cyan ravine]

They'll give you a shipping sticker, the moment you deliver it to one of their return points, they'll refund you

I would then order it again

[lean anchor]

I'm ordering a replacement and overnighting it lol

[cyan ravine]

But contact amazon cs immediately

Just double checking, you did remove the plastic off the heatsink yes?

[lean anchor]

Per your orders sir I shall

And yes I did

[cyan ravine]

Damn ok

Sometimes a board can misreport rpm but it's working

[lean anchor]

Yeah well it fluctuates between 12200 and 12501

[cyan ravine]

Sad that it's happened but there's always the odd one out, recommended this aio to hundreds of people now tho

Rarely if ever had a problem normally

So see how you go with the second one, if you still have issues come back and we can help

Buy a lottery ticket if you get two in a row that are definitely broken

[lean anchor]

Nah my luck will double bad if I do that.

[cyan ravine]

They say luck comes in 3's

And it all equalises

Fun thoughts

I'd enjoy winning a minor prize for a few grand thanks to thermalright shenanigans

Lolol

Anyway, hopefully the second one is fine, but we're here if not

Which cpu is this for btw

[lean anchor]

I mean you aren't wrong.

I bought the 7950X3D

[cyan ravine]

Ok so definitely an aio issue then

Sometimes on lga 1700 (sorry: this is intel) you can get a really bad cpu ILM, the clip that holds it into the socket

And it just warps the cpu disgustingly so contact is basically non-existent to the cooler

So with that variable out of the way, pretty easy to say its pretty much the aio

If you have paste on the cpu when you took it back off then it was definitely contacting

[lean anchor]

It was, there are some spots with more than others though

[cyan ravine]

That's fine

As long as it's pretty obvious good contact

AM5 is limited by the cpu itself for cooling, not the cooler

More is obviously better but you don't need to have great contact to avoid overheating in bios

So yeah, seems pretty obvious to me something is up with the aio for sure

[lean anchor]

How about this... I get it by Tuesday for free, so I just order it now or see if bestbuy has on, doubt they will but who knows.

[cyan ravine]

If you want yeah

But def contact amazon immediately about the current one

You can explain (or maybe for their understanding simplify) what we talked about, and explain it's just simply not doing what it's supposed to do and you've double checked

As long as your amazon record is good, they'll send you a return form without much question

[lean anchor]

What's a good thermal paste or is there something better that doesn't require luck to create good contact?

[cyan ravine]

Thermalright has good paste now with tf7

If you want an alternative, arctic mx6

[lean anchor]

Thanks

[lean anchor]

Ordered a new one and got the return label for the old one

[plucky timber]

Oh you guys found the problem?

Nice nice

[lean anchor]

Well kinda not really. The pump was idling, at least according to tach, at between 12200 and 12501.

Also I noticed the rad had a few bent pieces so this is for the best I suppose.

The good news about all of this is I highly doubt I can mess this up anymore. I have loads of connections at the bottom that are currently un used, do I need to have all of those connected? They are all for sata and rgb and stuff.

[dusky hearth]

Hmm if there were some bent pieces, maybe there was drop damage or smth

[lean anchor]

Nah the pins aren't bent, I just have things that have no cables to them.

All SATA and rgb stuff though.

[dusky hearth]

i mean for the aio

[storm arrow]

What's wirless mouse would you recommend for gaming

[dusky hearth]

gotta specify a budget for recommendations

[storm arrow]

Umm idk 150

@dusky hearth and 200 for a keyboard

[dusky hearth]

keyboard, maybe the keychron q2?

or q1

mouse, maybe logitech g502?

[storm arrow]

G502 seems like a bit much means I probably wouldn't need all the buttons

[cold sorrel]

I dread the day my Logitech G600 dies, because they discontinued it.

[dusky hearth]

it doesnt have that many buttons, and having macros is nice

[storm arrow]

I was personally looking at the razor huntsman v2, logitech g pro and the glorious gmmk2 keyboard and recommendations on one of those?

[dusky hearth]

this mouse be like

razer viper v2 pro is another option

also the v2? isnt there a huntsman v3 already

[storm arrow]

Yeah I was looking at viperv2 as well

Ahh there is a v3

[fiery nova]

Glorious model o >>>>>>

[analog hearth]

Eh

Overrated mouse

[fiery nova]

Idk I love it

Kinda gets dirty tho cuz of the holes

[storm arrow]

What about the logitech g pro superlight 2

[cyan ravine]

Ask in #peripherals-and-displays

The mice fanatics don't lurk here

[storm arrow]

Rodger that

[cyan ravine]

I think the usual go to recommendation is the viper v3 pro rn since it regularly goes on sale

But I don't catch up on that chat a whole lot

Something like $90

They will have a far better suggestion most likely

[jagged ember]

I do not like the superlight cause it's missing a button for accessing the second layer

And also I do not like LGHUB

And newer mouse don't work with the legacy version

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but you can just set the profile once on ghub to the mouse memory and then uninstall ghub

[jagged ember]

But then when you find a new game or want to swap your controls you have to download it again

[cyan ravine]

Also the fact that it's LGHUB

[dusky hearth]

A sus

[short yoke]

If You have sweaty hands the glorious O is horrible

From experience

[short yoke]

I'll always recommend this

https://a.co/d/6r3wQxv

I've never had any issues with that mouse at all, it's super comfy and will make you forget about the others

[fiery nova]

Fr? I have sweaty hands and feel like it's better because I get more ventilation lol

[obsidian wigeon]

I guess it's a concern of moisture damaging the mouse

But that has never happened before

[lean anchor]

I personally use the Chakram, love it, but a bit pricy for what it offers

[analog hearth]

I like that you can hot swap Asus mice but I haven't had issues with Razer's optical switches

I personally prefer the Razer mouse just for all of the buttons

(It's also lighter than my Asus Gladius if that matters)

[manic cloak]

There’s a 7800xt Nitro used (bought from Microcenter) going for 450$..

I could possibly sell my Pulse for 450$ and just buy the Nitro 🤔

[obsidian wigeon]

Pulse is arguably the same tho

I just don't like the idea of going through the hassle, so take this as you will

[little osprey]

is reselling pcs in todays market viable or nah

no

[weary galleon]

Locally maybe, probably not shipping

[crimson zinc]

Unless you buy cheap and also sell cheap

Not much of a profit atm

[manic cloak]

But the 3 fan with all of the flashy lights

(Jk)

Though is it normal for a pulse to get up to 73 degrees (1440p on CS2 high settings) cranking about 375 FPS?

I’ve seen it a bit colder before many times

[mossy venture]

If you buy used parts and deal hunt, sure

[obsidian wigeon]

that sounds fine

[mossy venture]

If you buy new parts, no not without a business

[mossy venture]

Yes

[crimson zinc]

@mossy venture @cyan ravine I’m challenging you both to not build the pc this time, but find the best prebuilt. Price = performance.

[weary galleon]

Not to be that guy but for a prebuilt price = convenience, not performance

[crimson zinc]

I know, I’m just intrigued on what they’d find.
Bacca has been on a roll lately in #tech-deals

[mossy venture]

That's just r/buildapcsales

I see deals there and post em here for the most part

[crimson zinc]

[mossy venture]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/ABS-Cyclone-Aqua-Gaming-PC-Windows-11-Intel-i5-13400F-GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti-8GB-DLSS-3-5-AI-Powered-Performance-32GB-DDR4-3200MHz-1TB-M-2-NVMe-SSD-CA13/5426712668

This is ok

[crimson zinc]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/31865/value-1080p-gaming-ryzen-5-3600-evga-1660-6gb-512-nvme-ssd-16gb-ddr4 @mossy venture

[mossy venture]

I do not know this site

[potent portal]

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/jawa.gg

[crimson zinc]

is it good? my embeds are not working

Now it’s working

[potent portal]

Seems like your average market like ebay or mercari

[crimson zinc]

I cleared cache

[crimson zinc]

They have some pretty nice deals on there

[potent portal]

Same rules as buying from any other third party, use paypal g&s if possible so you're covered and make sure the seller is reputable

[dusky hearth]

only 268 reviews though

[potent portal]

https://www.scam-detector.com/validator/jawa-gg-review/

In summary: Small Risk. Standard. Active.

[crimson zinc]

https://www.jawa.gg/product/32247/low-dollar-pc-amd-fx-4130-zotac-gt730
@potent portal free parts pretty much

[potent portal]

You couldn't pay me to take a FX 4130

I would rather use second gen intel core

[languid nimbus]

What if I offer you a 4320 and a “please?”

[cyan ravine]

Who is pong

[fossil cedar]

Ping

[storm arrow]

So I was recently going to purchase the 4090 on nvidia website because it showed it was back in stock the other day and was waiting till today and its back out of stock will the 4080 super run 4k well?

[obsidian wigeon]

you could save money going for 7900 xtx

but yes the 4080 super is able to run 4k pretty well

[storm arrow]

Well I seen a store has the 4090 msi slim. I'm new to this sorry but what the main difference between it and I regular card besides the width

[obsidian wigeon]

well it's slimmer

that's all there is to it

[storm arrow]

That's about it?

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[storm arrow]

Okay cool

[obsidian wigeon]

means it's probably a louder gpu

fans might need to run faster to keep it cool compared to other cards

[storm arrow]

Would you spend the extra 100 and get the aorus master vs the slim?

[cyan ravine]

As long as that 100 more is 1700 over 1600

[storm arrow]

Lol I wish slim is 1799 and the aorus is 1899

I mean in all honesty you think you would even hear the fans while gaming?

[cyan ravine]

More that the price of those are just plain not worth it when the 4080 super is 1K

4080/4080 Super are both some 25% less performance for almost half that price

XTX is overall even closer in games, akin to more like 15-ish percent slower if you avoid heavy RT

For some $930-ish

4090 hasn't been worth buying for quite some time now if you're purely considering a gaming standpoint

We've come full circle back to the 3080 Ti/3090 era of last gen where 3080ti was practically the same but with half the vram

But $1000 vs $1600

Tentatively

[storm arrow]

I should've just bought it when I could lol

[cyan ravine]

You have an xtx right?

Iirc

My personal experience with XTX having owned both, I prefer the XTX

Simple comparison, I can game at 4K120 on the 4090 at medium, whereas XTX I can game at 4K120 at low

Which sounds a bit significant

Until you see what low actually offers

[storm arrow]

No I was going to order the rxt last Thursday at msrp but was waiting until today but it went back out of stock lol

[cyan ravine]

Rxt?

[cyan ravine]

Low is practically the same save for some RT effects in a lot of games

[storm arrow]

Rtx srry

[cyan ravine]

Ah

1600 is at least not terrible

But I still say it's not as good as a 4080 Super for msrp

Or XTX for the usual 930

Especially the sapphire

Driver-wise, they're about on par with each other for stability

I have as many problems with 4090 drivers as I do XTX

Some weeks it's more one than the other, others it's the opposite

So to me it's like, practically a half price 4090, the xtx is

It's not a perfect copy but it's pretty damn great for half the price

I really like the suprim 4090 I have but I'll never get over that I paid almost half the price for the nitro xtx

And it runs just as quiet

[cyan ravine]

When I say this btw, I'd hope that it'd be a decent 1600 sku

Like PNY Verto rgb or Founders edition

colourful vulcan etc

Not like

Msi ventus vanilla

Msi slim etc

Not that those aren't perfectly performant but you take really big hits on cooling and quality going down to like, the slim variants from msi

And aorus master is huge

Like enormous

It won't fit in most standard layout cases

[storm arrow]

Yeah it was 1599 for the founders addition

[cyan ravine]

I think the 4090 is a good card make no mistake, but I genuinely feel the time has passed where the 4090 has been worth buying, even at msrp, unless you do heavy ML or workstation

There's genuine reason to still buy the 4090 for serious work, but for gaming you're inching for a few % for a huge premium

[storm arrow]

Okay so I'll get the 4080 super or 7900xtx hmmm

[cyan ravine]

Most cards from both are great imo

The best picks to me are pny verto and sapphire pulse for low end of both respectively

[storm arrow]

I just ordered the Samsung odyssey g8 neo. The gpu is literally the last piece of the puzzle

[cyan ravine]

They're both not the greatest, but very good for what they are

G8....

The 4k240?

[storm arrow]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

There's like 4 g8's lol

Ah ok

So if there's any chance to debrief on this I'll forewarn now

[storm arrow]

$899

[cyan ravine]

That display is limited to 38.4GBps

What does this mean

It's the limit of data transmission it can accept

This limit being displayport 1.4

Unfortunately

This translates to specifically 4K 120hz

This limit is overcome with display stream compression though

What DSC does is it compresses and interpolates, blends the image together for a consistent, higher fps experience, should you go above 120hz

But the problem with this, is if you're really sensitive to poor image quality

When you hit 240hz, it's fair to say you're basically doubling your fps with compression to a ratio of 50/50

It can make a 240fps experience look like a blurry mess

It's a nice screen

It's sadly limited by hdmi 2.1 and displayport 1.4a

There's no gpu that can competently run AAA of the current year at 240fps yet at 4k

That said however, the xtx does have displayport 2.1

So it is technically capable of I believe 4K 240

If the game is light enough

So I figured I'd divulge this, in case you might feel it not worth or useful to remember, that you'll be dealing with a lot of interpolated fps

For some people it's unusable, other's won't even notice it

You'll know when you try it at least

But as far as displays that support 4K 240hz, to my knowledge there still aren't any avilable yet with a higher display bandwidth than 38.4gbps

Apart from possibly that new asus oled

Qd-oled iirc, 32", has a hybrid setting between 4K 240hz and 1080p 480hz?

It might be 4k 120

Nope it's 4k 240hz

[storm arrow]

So basically if I want to run at a constant 240 get the 4090? Lol

[cyan ravine]

In other words no gpu can run 4k240 even remotely yet

[storm arrow]

Ohhh okay

[cyan ravine]

4k 240 has two limits rn

One is the monitor ports, in this case the ports aren't fast enough

Only half as fast

[storm arrow]

Should I return the monitor?

[cyan ravine]

The other is the gpu

Simply not powerful enough for current gen games to run 240hz

Older games will do 240hz, but nvidia doesn't have a display plug that can do 4k 240 native yet

The 4090 is also bottlenecked by it's own display plugs

[cyan ravine]

More just to caution you to it, if it's not too late, I'd consider doing a little research first

The G8 is good, again, much like I say the 4090 is

But there are catch 22's to both of these that normally have them off my recommendations

I would look into what display stream compression is and see how you feel about it

Because ultimately it's just a form of frame blending to allow the higher fps, but it's not a genuine 240hz

That said, it's a 32" screen right?

You could still play 1440p 240hz

Then play triple A in 4K

Not the end of the world, not unusable by any capacity, and you might be perfectly fine with DSC anyway

It's more like a, FYI I'm giving here

It's frustrating seeing these high end displays do this though

And specifically because nvidia didn't adopt a next gen display port

So you get this situation with both display and gpu being really good, but the cable and plugs are bottlenecking it in between

If you wanted to consider a very good display imo as an alternative? If this is worrying you

LG C2/C3 are really good for 4K

Aorus FV43U is excellent

[cyan ravine]

KTC have some oem versions of this for even cheaper

Or you could go widescreen 1440p

Like AW3423DW

Or the KTC OLED 1440p 240hz for $650

It depends on what you really want to do

The G8 could be amazing to you though

I think the best step forward is more just to research more about the G8 itself before you decide to keep or return

Sorry I started rambling lol

@storm arrow feel free to ask me anything if all my rambling is too confusing

Lolol

[storm arrow]

No I kinda get what your saying lol

[cyan ravine]

Lol good

As long as you have the awareness, imo that's the best thing you can arm yourself with

That monitor isn't cheap, so always worth double and triple checking you're comfortable with the choice

[storm arrow]

Omg

I got it. Well on may 2!

4090 founders edition for 1500 at bestbuy I had a gift card so that helped a lil

[cyan ravine]

1500 is nice

And a good 4090 too

Well done

That's a pretty respectable result

[storm arrow]

On the other hand monitor still good? Lol

It will be here today

[cyan ravine]

Try it, see how you feel about it

Do some research on it

[storm arrow]

Okay can't wait to show you this overpriced build lol

[cyan ravine]

I spilled a lot above which could mean either a lot or very little to your experience

[storm arrow]

You helped alot over the past 6 months lol

[cyan ravine]

As long as you're informed and you're thinking critically

All good lol

I learn a lot myself around here

[storm arrow]

And as far as windows goes you can just buy a key for cheap huh?

[crimson zinc]

I’d suggest going with an official key.

[mossy venture]

why

theres absolutely no reason to pay $100+ for windows

[cyan ravine]

@storm arrow dm

[potent portal]

theres absolutely no reason to pay for windows
fify

[crimson zinc]

Or do the “Method”

[potent portal]

I personally like the method of finding scrap windows 7 and 8 machines that have the license key printed on the side, then just using that key

My windows 11 pro is an upgraded key from 7 ultimate I got that way

[crimson zinc]

can you find one for me

[potent portal]

yes

[lone flame]

thats insane with the prices on the 4090s nowadays

[storm arrow]

I know it's crazy the best buy chat bot kept saying it was available at a store nearby so I called and they even said it wasn't available and at that very moment I was able to order it

[stable cove]

Think when I move I should turn my thermostat down or use an air conditioner so theres cold air in the surrounding passing through my pc

[lean anchor]

-_- Amazon is taking forever says my new AIO wont be delivered until 9pm. This is lame

[stable cove]

Didn’t they say AIOs were not worth the price?

[stable cove]

It’s just way more money for the same performance as air coolers they showed me this.

[cyan ravine]

Points for remembering

Yes but they bought a cheap good one for the looks so it's ok

[cyan ravine]

The air needs to be like, -15

-30

Before you'd worry about it being too cold around a pc

[stable cove]

Too cold?

[cyan ravine]

Like -30 celsius

Sub zero

Antarctica

[stable cove]

No I was saying maybe an air conditioner would surround the whole room with cool air and it’d go in to help reduce chance of the pc overheating

[mossy venture]

There's not exactly a chance of overheating

[cyan ravine]

All that'll do would just reduce the pc a few degrees down but won't do anything else to it

[mossy venture]

It either will or won't for the most part, unless something degrades or changes

[cyan ravine]

It won't save it from anything

The pc has it's own measures to save itself if it gets too hot

It doesn't need external help

[mossy venture]

A cpu won't start overheating on the tenth hour of running a program in a row

[cyan ravine]

All that turning the thermostat down will do is make yourself a lot colder

If you find the room too hot then great, all works out

[mossy venture]

For benchmarking it could make a minor difference

[cyan ravine]

Otherwise you'll catch a shiver 😂

[cyan ravine]

Like, 1%

[mossy venture]

I used to have a full size fan in front of my pc blowing into it whenever I did timespy lmao

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[mossy venture]

True, but for ocing that could make a big difference

[cyan ravine]

True

[mossy venture]

Alr I'm out

Shower

[cyan ravine]

I feel like

You said that an hour ago

[mossy venture]

?

Def not the shower part

Idk about the first one

[stable cove]

Maybe Felix is right because the CPU is covered in thermal paste underneath the air cooler so it probably wouldn’t feel anything

[cyan ravine]

The day my cpu grows feelings I'll start panicking tbh

[cyan ravine]

Maybe someone else was showering

This is taking a weird turn

Maybe I should at everyone in the other servers to check who's showering

For science

[obsidian wigeon]

you can run a pc for 24/7/12/365 and not overheat as long as cooling, ambient temp and environment is adequate

until dust starts to collect

dust is one of the main things that worsen cooling over time

a good clean and it'll be like new again

[cyan ravine]

Foxy were you showering

I should ask around

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

i showered like hours ago

[cyan ravine]

Damn

Tmi

[obsidian wigeon]

you asked

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wigeon]

and it's not that personal of an info

[cyan ravine]

Ik

Lmao

Most fun way to reply to that tho

[obsidian wigeon]

ofc

[cyan ravine]

@mossy venture @obsidian wigeon the mysterious person was fal

[stable cove]

Maybe I’ll check for dust in my computer and clean it out every more and then when it starts to build up

[mossy venture]

lol

[mossy venture]

Every month or two is a good idea

I don't clean mine often enough, but it really isn't the end of the world if you wait longer

Honestly I prob do mine every 4-6 months

[stable cove]

Funny I used a cheap $1000 Dell computer for 7 years and then I upgraded to a rtx 4080 build

Hopefully when I upgrade to a 5000 gpu if they become a thing anytime soon I’ll be able to switch certain parts instead of buying a whole new computer

Plus I’ll probably need to upgrade to custom water loop. Can’t imagine how hot cpus above the 7800x3d start getting

[mossy venture]

I'm debating if my next upgrade is gpu or oled

I'll decide when I feel like spending the money

[stable cove]

So what tool should I use if I see any dust in the fans of my computer or anywhere inside the case?

[obsidian wigeon]

Basic cleaning stuff

A rag, soft bristle brush (especially those anti esd thingies)

And maybe compressed air

[stable cove]

Well at least it won’t be hard to see the dust. I got a big glass panel showing what’s inside my pc

[obsidian wigeon]

Also custom loops are pretty redundant

An aio is all you'd need running any consumer class cpu in the world

[potent portal]

14900KS would like a word

Boiling the water in a 360mm

[obsidian wigeon]

Hey well 7950x3d ain't like that

Gotta thank that efficiency

[stable cove]

Yeah and they just showed me AIOs have literally the same performance as air coolers so I’ll probably have to buy the custom loop for future upgrades like the 7950x3d

I saw a video

[potent portal]

That CPU runs perfectly fine on air cooling

[cyan ravine]

I'm specifically moving off a water loop with a 7950x3d as the difference over a normal aio is a whole 0%

Literally in the process of changing case and everything

[potent portal]

A video showing it hitting 90 or whatever temperature isn't showing the full story. The full story is that whether it's running at 70 or 90 degrees, the benchmark results are the same

[cyan ravine]

A good tower cooler is overkill on AM5. See: Thermalright phantom spirit evo

A cooler which

[obsidian wigeon]

14900KS is just an extreme case

[cyan ravine]

Cools almost anything

[obsidian wigeon]

Don't let that sway you

[cyan ravine]

That tower cooler can almost handle a 13900k

It's insane

It's $42

[storm arrow]

Would you recommend a gpu bracket for the 4090 being its almost 5 pounds?

[obsidian wigeon]

But in the context of am5, air is perfectly good

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[obsidian wigeon]

And yes, please do get one

[potent portal]

Yes you want some kind of support

[obsidian wigeon]

Or a stack of legos lmao

[storm arrow]

Any recommendations

[potent portal]

GPUs are already breaking at the PCIe slot because of sag

[obsidian wigeon]

3d print something if you have a printer

gigabyte cards are especially prone to pcb cracking btw from the sagging

[potent portal]

Yep thinner PCB design so it's more prone to that

[storm arrow]

I personally have the founders edition

[cyan ravine]

Lego

2nd choice

More lego

3rd choice

$5 amazon chinesium exclusive

[potent portal]

4th choice, random stick from the tree cut to length

[cyan ravine]

5th choice, driftwood cut to length

6th choice, finger

[storm arrow]

I like the random stick idea I can carve it and paint it lmao

[cyan ravine]

cut to length

[obsidian wigeon]

6th choice slab of aluminum cut to size

[potent portal]

No one said it had to be YOUR finger

[cyan ravine]

Ofc

[storm arrow]

This is where I'm currently at waiting on the 6 fans and gpu

[cyan ravine]

Who would be crazy to cut off their own finger

Not me wth

The straight ones with rigor mortis are easiest to work with

[storm arrow]

I'm not like the 24pin connector at all

[cyan ravine]

Well no, you're a human are you not

[potent portal]

The 24 pin is something like an 18 year old design, it needs an update

[cyan ravine]

Damn

It can drink!?

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[potent portal]

It took me a second to remember you aren't in the US

[cyan ravine]

Oh is it different in freedom land

[potent portal]

Where I am they raised even the smoking age to 21

[cyan ravine]

Damn

Should move to italy

[obsidian wigeon]

thailand has 20 as drinking age

[potent portal]

Which is great because you can enlist and die for your country at 17 but you can't smoke, drink, or vote

[cyan ravine]

They're only thinking about changing the italian drinking age

[cyan ravine]

Should raise enlistment to 21

At least then they'll be old enough to think for any of those things

[potent portal]

But then they can't prey on high schoolers that don't know anything about the world

[cyan ravine]

True

You make it sound so creepy wtf

This ain't a white van LOL

It's a camo van

[potent portal]

That's because it is creepy. I've seen videos of the recruiters hitting on HS girls at the mandatory assemblies.

[obsidian wigeon]

yikes

[cyan ravine]

Damn

Ok fair enough

[torn mesa]

this looks great! unf, the person im building it for really wants an amd cpu/mobo 😭 u think u can help me out some more?

[obsidian wigeon]

kinda hard to do

don't think it matters tho

given am4 is also dead end platform

[cyan ravine]

Eh no

Just swap the motherboard to asus tuf a520m wifi ii

And the cpu to ryzen 5600

It's slightly worse but the result is almost the same

[stoic island]

x3d is a small upgrade path

Not completely dead

[cyan ravine]

They keep dropping more cpus onto it

That platform is about as dead as MJ's thriller

[potent portal]

Do you mean as dead as the dancers in the music video? Because I definitely heard that on the radio recently

[cyan ravine]

You know when you're at like a party and you got the talking stick

And you say something you thought was funny and then the next person says "My sister caught that disease!" And you're just

Mortified

Me rn fr

[stable cove]

So why were other air coolers $100 compared to my current one? Is it because they’re more powerful or just highly overpriced?

[cyan ravine]

Just overpriced

[stoic island]

they didn't have to account for the r&d costs

[cyan ravine]

Either for aesthetics or reasons beyond our understanding

[potent portal]

Or name tax like you get on a noctua

[stoic island]

Honestly I think noctua prices are just trying to pay for the 5 years it takes them to get a new product out lol

Next gen d15 has been on the roadmap for so long now

[stable cove]

What are aesthetics for? What do they do? Whatever it is it might not be important

[cyan ravine]

You mean 10 years and cancel

[stoic island]

Where's my noctua desk fan xd

[cyan ravine]

See>> white fans

[potent portal]

I will give them that, they put real resources into R&D to make sure it's up to their standards. But there's no excuse at this point for the NH-D15 to be $80+ 8 years after launch.

[cyan ravine]

Ya ikr

The desk fan was awesome

[stoic island]

Yea it's unfortunate that noctua just takes so long and never adjusts the prices

[cyan ravine]

Thermalright has them outclassed in almost everything now

We've come full circle again

[stoic island]

At least noctua isn't putting out a rushed product

But there's no product

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

They need to adjust their price

[cyan ravine]

I know exactly who you're quoting too

[stable cove]

Is noctua even a good product at all?

[cyan ravine]

Lmfao

[stoic island]

Who?

[cyan ravine]

They were

Reddit

[stoic island]

They have the best product whenever they launch

[obsidian wigeon]

Noctuas are great

But very expensive

[stoic island]

But that's what, 6 years ago for d15

[stable cove]

Wasn’t it like $100 though?

[cyan ravine]

Swear all I've seen after being in the pc space for 4+ years now is nt-h2 and the direct die frame

[obsidian wigeon]

I wonder what that ek custom loop guy has to say about ek imploding

[cyan ravine]

Oh and that fan channelling thing

[stoic island]

The passive cooler was really cool tbf

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah that thing

[stoic island]

And they keep putting out new sff coolers

[cyan ravine]

Thermalright does too tho

Look at the axp90 copper

[stoic island]

They're "new" sff coolers but not that new

[cyan ravine]

It has a red and orange fan in 2024

And all copper design

[obsidian wigeon]

Thermalright to me is becoming chinese noctua

[cyan ravine]

It's really interesting and weird

Like rolling up into asia for the first time and seeing locals have something exotic like snake

[stoic island]

just todya actually
https://noctua.at/en/noctua-introduces-nh-l12sx77-low-profile-cpu-cooler

its kinda just an improved l12s

[cyan ravine]

Wtf

[stoic island]

cool, but nothing that new

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it looks like an l12

LOL

[stoic island]

2 more heatpipes, slightly larger

[cyan ravine]

Oh cos it really is an L12 just taller

[obsidian wigeon]

austria doesn't exist, it's australia duh

[stoic island]

w more heatpipes

[cyan ravine]

*distant war noises *

[stoic island]

austrilia

[cyan ravine]

Austra

[stable cove]

How much should I expect it to cost to get a custom loop in the future when I upgrade my pc parts?

[stoic island]

australa

[stoic island]

anywhere from 200 to like 600$ depending on what you get

[cyan ravine]

Depends on how jank you like things

[obsidian wigeon]

one aio is like $100 for 360mm tho

[stoic island]

maybe more depending on how much blocks cost now

[obsidian wigeon]

just saying

[cyan ravine]

*55

[stoic island]

(I'm talking cpu and gpu loop that is)

[stable cove]

I was assuming it’d be $1000 for custom loop so that’s not too bad

[obsidian wigeon]

im making a broad example

thermalright has $55 ones

[cyan ravine]

Loop is so pointless tho

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[stoic island]

it can be if you get some 400$ waterblock for no reason

[cyan ravine]

7950x3d gets 0 benefit

[stable cove]

How it?

[cyan ravine]

And any modern gpu gains nothing but slight noise improvement

[stoic island]

custom loop used to be more useful, not as much now

[cyan ravine]

7950x3d is not limited by the cooler, it's limited by itself

[stable cove]

For a cpu like a 7950x3d like hell air cooling will be enough to handle it.

[obsidian wigeon]

Hence

aio

[cyan ravine]

The ihs is so thick on 7950x3d that you get the same result with liquid nitrogen or the tip of your finger

You don't need overkill

[stoic island]

direct die funny

[cyan ravine]

Waterloop does nothing

Direct die does a lot

But good luck doing that clean

[obsidian wigeon]

AM5 doesn't need loops. period

[stable cove]

Where are we get a cooler with liquid nitrogen?

[cyan ravine]

You can do direct die with 7950x3d and it would likely work on a small single tower

[stoic island]

funny roboclocker

what even happened to the roboclocker

[cyan ravine]

Robo'd his last clock

[stoic island]

like it wasn't even an april fools joke
https://youtu.be/9TTqxXxIpPY

[stable cove]

Well I checked the inside of my pc and there was barely dust anywhere at all so I just wiped my dust filters to be certain and put them back on.

I probably should’ve let my room cool down for a few hours after I used my heater before turning my pc back on

Yeah my fault

[mossy venture]

Does it have to be white?

Well, specifically the g360a?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XZvrQP

Psu
https://www.ebay.com/itm/295986890634

That is new ^

Just neweggs ebay store

It's a decent psu, not fantastic but not bad. If you want a better one for better upgradability, grab the rm750x.

[stable cove]

People said you needed a lot more power to overclock but if overclock has so little benefit then why does these pc know a lots bother?

[mossy venture]

The century 850 would still support upgrades, just to clarify

[stable cove]

With all due respect I’m not a pc nerd I bought my computer just to be able to play vr to be honest

[mossy venture]

It depends

Ln2 ocing an i9 or similar and heavily ocing 3090/3090 ti/4090? Yeah I could see you needing 1000w

For gaming though, the most you'd really do is a moderate cpu oc, ram tuning, and a gpu oc

[stable cove]

I’m definitely waiting for 5000 ti or better to come out. Going from 4080 to 4090 probably is not that much of an upgrade.

[cyan ravine]

There's still a lot of performance to be had but it becomes several degrees harder to find and accomplish every time something newer comes out

[crimson zinc]

donate your old 4080 to me:D

[stable cove]

First off no and two I bought it a few months ago when Felix set up a build for me to buy online

So I just bought that gpu. I’m just saying I may have to upgrade to something wild in the future for these crazy high resolution vr headsets like pimax Crystal super. It’s 3800x3800 pixels per eye

[crimson zinc]

Upgrade to a 5090

[potent portal]

8k headset

[cold sorrel]

On my saga of catching my brother to talk, last night he did confirm his buddies bought their rigs from NZXT BLD and was a bit baffled at how much they spent.

[mossy venture]

yeah nzxt is very overpriced

and mediocre

well

their cases and aios are mediocre

their mobos and psus can be surprisingly good

but still overpriced

[potent portal]

There was a time a couple years ago when they were one of the best options for getting a computer, during the GPU shortage.

[dusky hearth]

pimax crystal has impressive specs but iirc in the real world it isnt much better than other high end hmds
and their software is pretty bad for the price of the product

[potent portal]

That might change soon https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-opens-quest-operating-system-third-party-device-makers-2024-04-22/

[dusky hearth]

depends on if they do use that os though

[potent portal]

It probably wouldn't be until their next gen headset if I had to guess, since the OS is pretty integral into the core functions of the device and they'll probably have to design the headset around its limitations.

[dusky hearth]

yeah prob

[potent portal]

Asus and Lenovo are already partnered for that, interesting.

[dusky hearth]

a few corps have partnered up to create vr or such headsets because apple did it

[crimson zinc]

They’re still riding the word of mouth from then.

The prebuilt market needs to drop a LOT

The amount of $1000+ builds I see using just a 5600x+no gpu is astounding

[lean anchor]

An update to my earlier post,

Amazon said it would be delivered today by 9pm, UPS said nah, you getting it on May 1st

Now overnighting it XD

[vague oracle]

3090 for 2k prebuilt went so hard

It’s how I got my first gpu during the shortage

[lone flame]

im so glad i wasnt into pcs during the shortage lmao

i got a prebuilt for like 600ish for christmas i think in 2019 with a rx 580 that i used until summer last year

[lean anchor]

Hey btw, while I was cleaning up my build yesterday while waiting for a package that never came I noticed something my MB has 4 pins at the bottom of the board that aren't listed in the manual and look like a 4 pin fan connector, but are missing the plastic bit that clips in, any ideas on what this is?

[obsidian wigeon]

which mobo?

[cyan ravine]

Ah

Sometimes boards leave out small details of non essential extras

Could also be a misprint in the manual

The port should be labelled whatever it is

[lean anchor]

Well I already have everything in that needs to be plugged in so not really required for operation. I was just curious. As for what MB It's the B650 from Asrock.

[dusky hearth]

I would assume it's either a RGB header or speaker or similar

[dusky hearth]

Also asrock has a few b650s, the b650 is just the chipset and not the model

[lean anchor]

ASRock B650 Steel Legend WiFi ATX AM5 Motherboard

[dusky hearth]

From left to right

1. Front panel audio
2. Universal Asynchronous Receiver-Transmitter
3. RGB
4. ARGB
5. Fan
6. Fan
7. Fan
8. CMOS clear
9. USB 2.0
10. USB 2.0
11. Power LED/speaker
12. Front panel

[lean anchor]

Maybe it's an extra fan controller after all, my manual only lists two fan controllers and then the CMOS

[dusky hearth]

The mobo I looked at for the model you said had shown all 3

Also all 3 of them are labeled in the image

[lean anchor]

Between 23 and 24 there is a four pin connector. In the event you can't zoom that's the bottom center.

[cyan ravine]

It's rgb

I can see it in the stock pics

[lean anchor]

Ahhh, okay, odd that the manual doesn't show it.

[cyan ravine]

As I said probably a misprint

I am not

[lean anchor]

Who the hell uses crypto anymore?

[cyan ravine]

Peter, ever been attacked by a wolf?

[lean anchor]

LMAO

It replies

[cyan ravine]

Holy crap the bot can speak

@subtle halo I need fire

[lean anchor]

Bye Peter XD

[cyan ravine]

Ok now the puppy of wall street is gone

Yeah it's probably just a misprint

There's no other plug that looks like 3 pin argb

[lean anchor]

Big sad I need to wait until 10 tonight to get my build fully put together

[cyan ravine]

All good

Perfection with patience

[lean anchor]

Well I paid for two day shipping on a cooler on Sunday, and then amazon was like cool bro we'll send it, UPS was like nah not until may 1st, so I bought another one for $3 cheaper and it's overnighted...

Like why?

So if this one doesn't work could it just be that the controller doesn't work?

I mean I did move it to another one and it didn't seem to work either, but I figure these are questions I should be asking

[cyan ravine]

Think it be best not to overthink it and just see what happens with the second one

Hard to make any suspicions without taking that faulty one apart to be sure

[lean anchor]

Also what's a good way to hide the pump and fan wire better?

The cables aren't long enough to run through the top, and they just dangle in the case....

[cyan ravine]

I normally run it under the mobo heatsinks

[sinful silo]

is newegg safe i want to order pc parts

is newegg safe i want to order pc parts

[fossil cedar]

yep

[crimson zinc]

I ACCIDENTALLY UPDATED TO WIN11

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

@cyan ravine I’ve done a terrible thing to fiancés pc

[fossil cedar]

good

win 11 pogor

and win 22h2 ends support in october or so anyway i think cant remember if next year or not

[crimson zinc]

I went back to 10

https://tenor.com/view/baku-deku-izuku-midoryia-fortnite-take-the-l-fortnite-dance-gif-15091119180638209418

[cold sorrel]

I don’t think my PC can be updated to 11. Though I’d rather stay on 10 anyway.

[plucky timber]

lmao

Am I the only person to like 11 more than 10?

[crimson zinc]

No, but 11 just has some customization that people like me don’t like. And I’m not advanced enough with windows OS to be able to customize it myself to what I want.

[obsidian wigeon]

I'm fine with it

You can also use other programs to customize if you so wish

Copium yes but win 10 will lose support in 2025

That means a year left before you need to use win 11

Or linux, alternatively

[lean anchor]

@cyan ravine soooooo. Got the new AIO installed and same thing, 12224 rpm via tach and steadily increasing temps.

So my question is, am I supposed to be using the SATA cable to power it because it came with one of those, but neglects to mention it in the manual.

I have to be doing something wrong at this point I am thinking I should take it to a local shop and let them take a look, unless we can figure this out...

No way I got two defective pumps back to back and I'm getting the feeling I might not have it plugged in right or something

The bios screen is from a fresh boot after 10 minutes of sitting with it off.

[obsidian wigeon]

Incorrect reading on the mobo then

Temps look right tho

[lean anchor]

Oh, yeah nah after two minutes it's well into the 90's

In the bios no less

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

I think that sata thing is for rgb or daisy chaing of case fans

[lean anchor]

I have the chain cable and then the sata

Well now....

I just fixed it

Holding at 42

Hell yea boys and girls we are in bidnus

[obsidian wigeon]

nice

[lean anchor]

So apparently the cable behind my gpu is plugged into not a fan controller but something labeled as one.

[obsidian wigeon]

I guess that's the cause

At least it's fixed at last lmao

[plucky timber]

that's what i use linux for

third party programs on windows are way too bloated

[lean anchor]

So nice having the dual monitor setup, now to get everything reinstalled XD

Thank you so much everyone

[cyan ravine]

Sata into what, the pump?

[cyan ravine]

Oh what was the fix lol

[lean anchor]

Well you see the Manual for the MB said the plug I had the AIO plugged into was a fan controller, it was more like a "I can't believe this isn't a fan controller." I moved it and bam 42 flat

[cyan ravine]

Damn alright

I'll try to remember that for the next person

[lean anchor]

Side note, changing numbers and getting a new PC and trying to access TFA is a pain -_-

[sand trout]

What buget do i need for a New pc and monitor?

[potent portal]

It depends. A solid entry level system will run you about $600-650 including peripherals. You start getting into the midrange at $750-800.