building-and-recc-chat

[manic cloak]

z690 Tuf Gaming DDR4

And for DDU should I use DDU or AMD util?

/ddu

.ddu

[potent portal]

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[manic cloak]

Thabks

[potent portal]

Definitely use DDU because AMD doesn't have anything to do with this

[manic cloak]

Gotcha

[potent portal]

Win11?

[manic cloak]

Yessir

[potent portal]

Chipset https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1700/ROG_STRIX_Z790-A_GAMING_WIFI/DRV_DTT_Intel_RPL_TP_W11_64_V101140139039_20231123R.zip?model=TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4

[manic cloak]

That's Z790?

Nvm

[potent portal]

Same driver ig

[manic cloak]

Alright so once I DDU I assume that first THEN AMD?

[potent portal]

Leave AMD alone for now

Just Intel

[manic cloak]

Alright

[potent portal]

Here's an iGPU driver too https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/07VGA/DRV_VGA_Intel_RPL_TP_TSD_W11_64_V3101014824_20231229R.zip?model=TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI D4

[manic cloak]

@potent portal

All looks good?

[potent portal]

Yeah that's fine, just make sure Intel mode is selected on the main screen

[manic cloak]

Alright clean and restarting intel

[manic cloak]

It won’t open..

How would I even check if it installed..

[potent portal]

It's hard to tell unless you know what to look for

What won't open? The link or the file?

[manic cloak]

Well that first link where I thought it wasn’t the motherboard chipset you sent me

I opened it, it asked me to run or do not run cause smart screen wasn’t available

Then when I pressed run, closed out and nothing happened

[potent portal]

Did you extract the whole contents of the zip

[manic cloak]

Yes.

All of it

It just appeared and disappeared

[potent portal]

Try running install.bat instead of the asussetup

[manic cloak]

?

[potent portal]

In the folder

There's a file named install.bat

[manic cloak]

Oh it’s just named Window Batch File for me

But it’s doing the same thing

I’m gonna go out of safe mode and see

[potent portal]

Oh you're still in safe mode

That would be it

Most things won't install in safe mode

Since most system services are stopped

[manic cloak]

Strange.

Same things happening

Pops up, closing immediately

My music works aswell

[potent portal]

Maybe that version is installed already then? idk, it's probably safe to just move on but you can check the system logs if you're curious

[manic cloak]

I guess so, strange though.

Should I just reinstall amd?

[potent portal]

AMD drivers should still be installed

[manic cloak]

Well I mean

Ddu that

Plus my VGA light is off now

[potent portal]

Are you having problems with your AMD GPU? It didn't seem like you were to me

[manic cloak]

I don't think so, just when I tried to boot and get display it was being wonky

and Adrelalin was like "Hey I just set your settings back to basic"

[potent portal]

I'd leave it for now then

Try installing the Intel graphics drivers now

[manic cloak]

Alright

[manic cloak]

@potent portal Thanks for the help, managed to hit a 4k clip with a negev in CS2 LOL

[naive latch]

Does anyone know why my hdd isn’t coming up it’s detected in my bios but not in disk manager or anything

[fossil cedar]

Ah yeah that's like 2.5kw per day just idling tho

[lyric thistle]

Sure beats full power all day

The more alarming revelation is the TV power consumption

Not because it uses a lot of power, since its usage is quite small, but because it doesn't seem to go into standby power properly

Standby power regulations mandate that it should consume at most half a watt, and like a decade ago it was a whole watt

If it can't effectively go into standby at that wattage then it's defective, or they did away with regulations to make that TV

Most electronics and electrical appliances in the past like 20 years have been made to conform to that watt standby power

[spice dragon]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Cooler: Kraken X73 RGB, White
Motherboard: Aorus Elite AX ICE B650
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 - White
Video Card: White Aero 4080

is it a good build?

[potent portal]

Yeah

Minus the corsair cooler

The 7800X3D runs perfectly on a basic air cooler

[spice dragon]

is the mb good or i change it

[potent portal]

If it's a good price it's fine

Lots of people are setting world records on B650, no need to go higher

[random thistle]

Can anyone help me put together a pc for 1,200 USD?

[cyan ravine]

a what kind of pc

[random thistle]

Wdym

What kind

[cyan ravine]

an editing pc

a gaming

pc

a workstation pc

[random thistle]

Gaming

[cyan ravine]

lol

ok

[random thistle]

Gaming, and casual streaming

Like once a week streaming is what I mean by casual

[cyan ravine]

hmm

do you need wifi

[random thistle]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

ok this will overshoot a little bit but frankly it can't really get any better than the following

[random thistle]

Its fine its over a bit

[cyan ravine]

this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v3snqR

but ideally this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b8xb6D

the SSD is free with the cpu is why it's $0

there are ways to trim it a little more but, it starts to come in the way of, not really being worth it if that makes sense

[random thistle]

Mhm

[cyan ravine]

you could drop to a 7900 GRE or 7800XT and this would still be good

[random thistle]

Yeah my absolute max is 1,250

[cyan ravine]

yeah well this is pretty much minmaxed for 1250 then

[random thistle]

Ok

[cyan ravine]

You could do things like A620i AX or A620M Pro RS (not really any different as a board, just an aesthetic mismatch)

the zotac card

maybe gamemax m60 or phanteks g360a

[random thistle]

Whatever you think is best man

[cyan ravine]

but it's all kinda going all over the place aesthetically

[random thistle]

I don’t really care about aesthetics

I’m pretty basic

[cyan ravine]

oh it's more like I'm just sorta explaining the thought process lol

one sec I'll pull up the amd cards rq

the build I did is really small btw, it's basically an itx build

[random thistle]

Mhm

Will the smaller builds effect temps or no?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fq26Mp/gigabyte-gaming-oc-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-gv-r79gregaming-oc-16gd
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BtkH99/powercolor-hellhound-oc-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-rx-7800-xt-16g-loc

[cyan ravine]

not enough to make any real difference tbh

[random thistle]

Ok

[cyan ravine]

the cpu and gpu both have decent ventilation

in fact this is a great case for the gpu, it can feed straight from the bottom

[random thistle]

What’s better the amd cpu or the nvidia

[cyan ravine]

uh, I'd lean towards the 4070S a little for streaming

just because it's more accessible?

[random thistle]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

they perform about the same

but as far as open compatibility nvidia is doing slightly better overall

[random thistle]

So you would go with a 4070S build?

[cyan ravine]

ideally ye

[random thistle]

Ok

I will go with it

[cyan ravine]

np

if you have more questions lmk

[random thistle]

Do you think all the prices will stay the same cause I won’t have the money until this monday coming up

[cyan ravine]

for 5 days? Good chance

if not come back and we'll adjust

[random thistle]

Ok

Thanks for the help

[cyan ravine]

I'd only be worried about the SSD + CPU sale

no worries

[random thistle]

Or I got a question

[cyan ravine]

the rest of the build the prices have been very stable

wassup

[random thistle]

Do you think I should buy all the parts on the same day or like buy some parts now and the rest later

What do you recommend

[cyan ravine]

hmmm

do you have a current pc

[random thistle]

Ye

[cyan ravine]

what's in it

[random thistle]

Its garabge

[cyan ravine]

I won't judge lol

[random thistle]

i7 4790 RX580 , 16gb DDR3

[cyan ravine]

mmm yeah no, I'd flip that

[random thistle]

I don’t think anyone will buy it lol

[cyan ravine]

or I'd get an Arc A380 and use it as a streaming rig

they will

[random thistle]

Its a jank dell optiplex build

[cyan ravine]

that sort of spec still sells

[random thistle]

The dang power button don’t even work on it

[cyan ravine]

won't sell for a lot

but sells

[random thistle]

Gotta put it in sleep mode every night

Cause the power button doesn’t work

[cyan ravine]

lmao

[random thistle]

Very jank

Lol

[cyan ravine]

I think RX580's are about $80-$100 worth iirc

4790 non K would be worth a few bucks too

whole pc probably for 200-300

it's in that range of like, kinda not worth it anymore, kinda worth something

4790 in particular

[random thistle]

I got the Chinese version RX580 lol

[cyan ravine]

it's suprisingly still viable

[random thistle]

Got the 2048SP version

[cyan ravine]

oh lmao

[random thistle]

😂

[lyric thistle]

4790 is like 40 bucks I think

xeon equivalent is an e3-1271v3 and that's like 20

same clock speed just doesn't have igpu

[cyan ravine]

if you flip that with a blank drive it'll be worth a couple hundred probs

use that to offset what you paid for the new one

[cyan ravine]

going back to this, given your current pc, all at once

depending on the specs I can sometimes just opt for half the pc upgraded and leave it at that

[lyric thistle]

it's fine to buy parts a few at a time if it's a working system

[cyan ravine]

ye it is

tho a 4790 would be hella bottlenecked

you may as well just do all of it

the build above would last a pretty long time imo

[lyric thistle]

I'd go in order like...power supply, then board cpu and ram, then gpu and case

[cyan ravine]

power supply then ssd

ye

if the ssd fit

depends if key compatible board but I agree kinda

[lyric thistle]

key compatible?

[cyan ravine]

well some slots are sometimes sata incompatible, or in rare situations, m key incompatible and only do msata

very uncommon now, but on really old boards yeah

also go back far enough and you wouldn't even have m.2 slots

[lyric thistle]

oh old dell yhaswelll board right

[cyan ravine]

throw key compatible out, that would be pre 4th gen

not even a slot to begin with

lol

[lyric thistle]

4th gen just doesn't have m.2 outside of hedt

there's msata and mini pcie slots on some oem boards I guess

[cyan ravine]

so even some 4th gen would be out of luck too lol

[lyric thistle]

there are custom aftermarket 4th gen consumer boards from like china that have m.2 slots I think

[random thistle]

I was saying like buy a few but just leave them sitting until I got everything lol i’m not gonna try to use a dang 4070 with a i7 4790 lol

[cyan ravine]

oh you can do that

nothing wrong with doing that

[lyric thistle]

but in terms of upgrading gradually, I'd pair a new cpu, new board, new ssd and ram, not go with new old

[cyan ravine]

try and grab the cpu and ssd first

of all the things that's the one that you want to get both for 229

it's a limited sale

[random thistle]

Ye

[cyan ravine]

the rest are easily substituted

[random thistle]

Do I need the 850w or would it run with a 750w?

[cyan ravine]

750w is fine, nay a good 650w honestly

thing is this is the best psu in the sub 100 range rn just about

and it's only a few more dollars for a very nice upgrade so, may as well

means you can carry it over later

[lyric thistle]

I forgor wat watt my psu is tbh

[cyan ravine]

RM750e I think is 10 less

but I feel honestly, $10 is well spent

it's a good bit better than an RMe according to aris

[random thistle]

will using the 850w make my power bill go up more or nah

yeah I can buy everything besides the gpu rn

then gotta wait for my paycheck on monday to get the gpu

[mossy venture]

No

[lyric thistle]

nope

you can have as big a psu as you want

[mossy venture]

A psu only pulls the power the pc is requiring

[lyric thistle]

the parts will sip what they need

[mossy venture]

A bigger psu can actually reduce power bill funnily enough

[lyric thistle]

efficiency

[mossy venture]

Since a psu is more efficient when its using a lower % of its total wattage available (to a certain extent)

Its really negligible, but its there

[cyan ravine]

the differences are so small anyway, you'll notice maybe a couple dollars on your electric bill

running your air con for 10 minutes would cost more than running your pc for a few hours

[random thistle]

yeah my my damn town charges a damn arm and a leg for power

I had to pay $834 last month

[lyric thistle]

the higher proportion of the wattage rating being used, like 450 watts of a 500 watt unit, the lower the relative efficiency, so like an 850w psu running a 450w computer will waste a little less energy

[random thistle]

so just get the 850w then

[lyric thistle]

pretty much

whatever is recommended 🤓👍

[random thistle]

pcpartpicker recommend the pc for 436W

and I heard its good to get 150-200 more than what it recommends

[cyan ravine]

again, a good 650w would work

[lyric thistle]

that's a wattage estimate, just based on the manufacturers' listed wattages

[cyan ravine]

but the best in the price range is the a850gl

[mossy venture]

HUH

[random thistle]

yes sir

[mossy venture]

Hold up

[random thistle]

my town is a scammer

[lyric thistle]

wait

that's no power bill

[mossy venture]

This genuinely might be a reason for a platinum rated psu

[lyric thistle]

that's a factory power bill lol

[cyan ravine]

no

a pc uses so little power

[random thistle]

my town is like known in the area for having high ass power bills

[mossy venture]

Even if it's a $10 difference?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qY7G3C/evga-supernova-750-p5-750-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-p5-0750-x1

[cyan ravine]

using the stove for an hour would use more than a pc in a day

[lyric thistle]

what electric company

[random thistle]

lol

its the town electic company

[cyan ravine]

these are tiny as hell differences

[mossy venture]

Or a step up in the tier list too
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mW4Ycf/super-flower-leadex-platinum-850-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14mp

[random thistle]

like you pay through the town

so get that instead?

[mossy venture]

What gpu? Sorry I missed earlier

[random thistle]

4070 Super

[mossy venture]

I'd lean towards the p5 probably, $10 more than the msi 850 agl

[cyan ravine]

it needs to be 140mm long

[mossy venture]

Ah

Pain

[cyan ravine]

also btw

even if it says gold or platinum

in practice some psu's don't reach that

[random thistle]

want to see my current pc lol I got this video

[cyan ravine]

some go above

[random thistle]

make ya'll cringe

[cyan ravine]

some go below

[random thistle]

Look lol this my pc

rn

LOL

W setup fr

[lyric thistle]

it's a coimpuer

[random thistle]

😎

so big upgrade

[lyric thistle]

the last pc I built before this one is i7-4790 + gtx 970

wait no

i5-4460

4790 is in my lenovo beepboop

[random thistle]

I used to run a i7 4790 and a gt 760

lol

[lyric thistle]

I did with gt 730

[random thistle]

it was pain

that damn thing couldnt even run gta at 30 fps

[lyric thistle]

war thunder was the saving grace

runs on anything

[random thistle]

lol

so buy this or nah

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-lol-idk-lol-jpste-gif-25792930

[cyan ravine]

should all be fine tbh

[random thistle]

then this

[cyan ravine]

do the 2nd bit first

I will say this btw

[random thistle]

hm?

[cyan ravine]

of all the power efficiency discussion

the one thing

one thing that would make your pc more efficient

the nvidia gpu

and the ryzen cpu

lol

those don't draw nearly as much as their competitive counterparts

[cyan ravine]

get this first

[lyric thistle]

I went intol cpu radeon gpu

weeeee

[random thistle]

Do I need to get thermal paste or is it already pre installed

[cyan ravine]

comes with the cooler

[random thistle]

ok w

so buy this now

[cyan ravine]

ye

[random thistle]

alr

can I use your card instead of mine

lol

[cyan ravine]

lol

[lyric thistle]

just pay my mom's bills

[cyan ravine]

if you use my card, it delivers to my address

[random thistle]

do you get a tracking number and all that with newegg I literally never bought anything from newegg

[cyan ravine]

should do yeah

[random thistle]

damn $20 tax

I hate living in the US

do I need to get like a special screwdriver to unscrew the m.2 slot?

I heard you do

[lyric thistle]

phillips

[random thistle]

ok

man Im nervous lol

W

[lyric thistle]

make sure to eat your ram

[random thistle]

Got everything besides the gpu which ill get on monday

[random thistle]

Gotta download more ram also when I get the pc right

lol

[lyric thistle]

yes

doordash

more calories

[random thistle]

download a 4090 also

for pro pc

[crimson zinc]

Get it NOW
You have 18 seconds before I throw a strawberry at you

Put yourself in debt rn

[random thistle]

Give me money

then I'll get it

Just need $600

lol

[crimson zinc]

I only need $1849 for my gpu

[random thistle]

oh god

[limber oyster]

My dad's thermal paste finally gave out after 6-8 years

Running 85-90°C on idle

[obsidian wigeon]

not bad

that's a long shelf life indeed

[spice dragon]

hello i have a AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D what aio do i get?

[lyric thistle]

just glue a spoon to it

it'll be fine

[spice dragon]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[crimson zinc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xMLFf7/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-white-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-white-argb

Here’s the AIO you need to cool it

[potent portal]

No joke, that processor runs just fine on the stock AMD cooler. You don't need to spend more than $15-20.

[crimson zinc]

Could probably get away with one of these

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YwbTwP/id-cooling-se-214-xt-682-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-214-xt-argb-white

[wild peak]

Do I need thermal paste and if so which should I buy?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8zNpn6

[crimson zinc]

Mx6

No question

[wild peak]

So I do need it? Because I’m installing a cpu cooler as you can see

[potent portal]

Coolers come with paste

[wild peak]

But should I buy it separately

[potent portal]

MX6 is just really good, but in the end gets you maybe 4 degrees colder

[crimson zinc]

Mx-6 gang

[crimson zinc]

It’s just good to have spare thermal paste

And it’s literally $6

[tawny violet]

You never know when you'll need some thermal paste

It can be real handy

[crimson zinc]

^

And mx6 does the job nice

[limber oyster]

Whoever pinged me in #building-and-recc-chat, I can't view

[crimson zinc]

@potent portal would 1x16 work better of ddr4 ram than 2x8

[mossy venture]

2x8 far better

[limber oyster]

Originally went in for thermal paste

[crimson zinc]

Gotcha

[crimson zinc]

PILLOW

[potent portal]

Dual sticks gets you about 15-20% better performance in real world tests, but DDR4 is so cheap now it's hard to not recommend 2x16

[potent portal]

Spicy pillow!
Drop that in a bucket of sand and pop it for free fireworks and glass

[crimson zinc]

Trying to get 16gb for $30 for this build, and every time I’m like, cool everything is ready for Thursday, someone buys what I had in my cart

It’s happened 4 times

I kid you not
Case, PSU, PSU, and now the ram

[viral ore]

do you usually go to the grocery store, fill up your cart, then come back for it a few days later to buy it all?

well, dont do that online either

[potent portal]

This is why I start shopping after I have the money in hand, or at least credit available that I can use to float the payment for a week before I pay it off.

[crimson zinc]

I’d rather just do it now, and fill in any issues that arise as they go

[fiery nova]

Anyone know my pc only lets me select 165hz when my monitor is 170hz

[viral ore]

all thats doing is wasting time

but if you simply prefer to waste time then so be it

[crimson zinc]

It’s filling time that would otherwise be doomscrolling

Plus if I have any questions or concerns, I can adjust ahead of time

[mossy venture]

It's probably the cable you're using

5hz really isn't noticeable, I wouldn't worry about it

[viral ore]

toss the pocket computer bro, its worth it. got rid of mine, haven't looked back

feel better doing literally nothing as opposed to staring at it

[crimson zinc]

Unfortunately I can’t
I’d love to go phoneless, but I am getting married to someone with OI, which if anything happens to her, I need to be there asap.

I’ve not had social media in years. The only thing I have is Reddit and discord.

[viral ore]

well, the next step is dropping reddit

discord aight, only reason im still here

[fiery nova]

Is the display cable that came with the monitor, but yeah I was just curious

Also idk if it's screen tearing or what but whenever i move side to side in a game it gets like blurry/fuzzy

It's not motion blur in game

[crimson zinc]

I’ve almost completely

It’s just useful for finding random questions

[viral ore]

for sure still useful, but that was one of the last accounts I deleted

still find my way there through google for specific things

[weary galleon]

TAA maybe?

If it's a slight blur only when you move it's most likely TAA

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gH62L9

Upgrade thoughts for 1440p 165hz, ultra graphics? I play games like Horizon Zero Dawn, CoD MW3/Cold War, 7 days to die, Forza Horizon 5, Ace combat 7, etc

[obsidian wigeon]

a 7900 gre i guess?

[lone flame]

is that your current build

[mossy venture]

X3d cpu

[limber oyster]

Yes

[limber oyster]

My 6800xt barely fits

But I'll look into it

Maybe there's as n xfx that fita

*fits

Or a tuf

[fiery nova]

I have a weird sound "buzzing" sound whenever I'm tabbed into a game

When I tab out it stops

Can I get pic/vid perms plz so I can send or can I dm to someone?

[crimson zinc]

@fiery nova you have to talk long enough

[fiery nova]

I could on my old account

I lost login cuz I'm dumb

I think it fixed on pc restart, still concerning tho

[crimson zinc]

Just talk for a few more messages

[fiery nova]

Nvm it started back up again

I feel like it might be gpu

Cuz whenever I tab out it stops

[mossy venture]

lock FPS

[fiery nova]

It is

At 165

[mossy venture]

oh hm

[fiery nova]

Oh I can send now

My phones like on top of my pc there so it's a lot louder

My temps and performance is still fine so idk

Does anyone have any idea on what it could be and if it's a problem

It only appears to happen if my gpu is at like 70% utilization and over ~270w

If I tabbed out or like looking in the sky it stops

[jagged ember]

I'm going to guess it's coil whine from the GPU then

Since it's so situation specific

There isn't really a fix for coil whine as far as I know since it's a physical issue

[fiery nova]

Is it a problem?

[jagged ember]

Other than in terms of sound

No

It's caused by coils in your hardware vibrating when specific conditions occur

I've seen people hot glue the coil to fix it but frankly that's a terrible fix

[fiery nova]

Yeah as long as it's not a problem I dont mind leaving it, it's unnoticeable with headphones on

Only reason I heard it is cuz I had headphones off for a bit

[jagged ember]

Gotcha, that's fair enough

Just double check to make sure no cables are hitting your fans

[fiery nova]

Ye no cables hitting it

It actually still happens if I'm looking In The sky but much less noticeable

The whoosh sound is my mouse

This is me just looking in the sky and then looking straight head ahead

[jagged ember]

Yeah it sounds like coil whine to me

[fiery nova]

Alright thanks appreciate the help

Also I might've asked this a couple days ago but is it safe for my pc if I game with my window open in the winter

Like close to 0c outside

My room is naturally warm and with the pc it gets hot in here

[crimson zinc]

Yes

As long as the pc isn’t freezing, you’re fine

[fiery nova]

Like the temps inside the pc?

[mossy venture]

itll be fine, dw about it

[potent portal]

I used to leave my window open gaming while it was snowing outside, my roommate thought I was crazy until one day he stepped into my room and said "oh dang it really is warm in here"

[potent portal]

The key point is the dew point. Keep the temp inside the PC above that and you won't get condensation.

Odds are you're nowhere near it unless you have a crazy phase change cooler or a modded AC unit directly hooked up to it

[crimson zinc]

Yeah that

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zvstt6/hyte-revolt-3-mini-itx-tower-case-cs-hyte-revolt3-b

Thoughts?

[mossy venture]

fine case

[limber oyster]

Imma scrap the case upgrade

https://shop.alphacool.com/AtsdCartSave/load/key/771bd367a309e506704ebf05efc258d8

[fiery nova]

How often should I clean my pc

[potent portal]

Depends on how quickly it gets dirty

[cyan ravine]

When it looks dusty

Clean it lol

[potent portal]

If you're in a dusty region like a desert, every couple weeks. If you're in Alaska, every few months. It varies.

[cyan ravine]

Check filters, make sure they stay clean, that's about it

Don't let fans spin while cleaning

[fiery nova]

Ok thanks

I'm east coast USA

[potent portal]

Probably somewhere in the middle of what I said then

[fiery nova]

👍

[lone flame]

XFX generally are some of the longest amd cards

my 6950 merc is only 2.5 slots but is almost 350mm long

[cyan ravine]

Surfboards

Tbh

[lone flame]

I’d rather have a longer card rather than one that’s like 4.5 slots

[cyan ravine]

True

[lone flame]

That’d be kinda funny tho

[cyan ravine]

Though depending on the situation, either/or can be better

[lone flame]

Like a single fan 4 slot card

[cyan ravine]

Iirc the 3060 single fan from zotac or pny was 3

It wasn't even half bad

Lmao

[lone flame]

no

[spice dragon]

https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-Dual-Chamber-Multidimensional-Infinity-Anti-Leak/dp/B0BX48898B/ref=sr_1_19?crid=24YEEIT2JP3YW&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rAEiMiSK_cLxozK9e0F3WuScGC0OMa9x2xneAa6-J0dJ1JfuA5bH_cQZuApzKqMRHhySFsiAqe989ZSu6hZkllIDRfrUI5k1e-lj88gMYovGy5A2O0gCypzFbCEwjcK-rfABTrHRp9_FFplUR7NYWv9qCNzl2rmzE9QH3UOwF1ieOkXHCs_rW05WHXfdR-pCfzFrPBpoWjXrH2WQrb2LFtvH9c20i95XQ54nTDtXlHM.4JTdagIDFOZkrKbLoyU9mH_tp7EuIdfQHsPrflOlflM&dib_tag=se&keywords=white%2Baio&qid=1711048169&sprefix=white%2Baio%2Caps%2C240&sr=8-19&th=1

is it a good aio for ryzen 7 7800 x 3d

[cyan ravine]

Way too overkill

Get a good single tower, low profile cooler at a minimum with a good coldplate

Thermalright assassin X V2 plus is a really good one and overkill in itself for 7800X3D

Since the problem is the CPU runs hot, but only due to the fact the IHS on the cpu is so thick it basically insulates the chip instead of moving the heat off it. What you get is a cpu that will naturally run hot (especially with the vcache) and it just won't get very effective heat extraction from really any cooler

@spice dragon example

7600X pulls more power than a 7800X3D and is by and large plenty cold even on a good dual tower here

A single tower is more than enough

https://amazon.com/dp/B0CCP76TGZ

This one is really good

[serene onyx]

Does anyone know how to fix insane fps stutter?

I’ve been having bad stutter lately, but it’s never happened to me before. Like it just started all of a sudden

[obsidian wigeon]

cap fps

[spice dragon]

4070 Ti SUPER or 4080 SUPER

wich one it better for a Ryzen 7 7800 x 3d

[potent portal]

With such a generalized question, you get a generalized answer.
Whichever GPU you can afford that does what you want it to.

[mossy venture]

Obviously the 4080 super would do higher settings/frames

[cyan ravine]

Totally agree with Fal. Short hand questions get short hand answers

You won't really get ideal advice

[spice dragon]

i can afford both but wich one is good

[potent portal]

They're both good

The question is what are you doing with it

[spice dragon]

gaming

and photoshop

[cyan ravine]

what is your budget

[potent portal]

Ok, what games? What resolution and refresh rate is your monitor?

[cyan ravine]

what is your ideal gaming resolution

etc etc

[spice dragon]

2k

[cyan ravine]

2K is 1080p

do you mean 1440p?

[spice dragon]

2560 x 1440

[cyan ravine]

1440p ok

[spice dragon]

yes

[potent portal]

(it's not a standardized naming but 1440p is often referred to as 2k even though 1080p is a lot closer to 2000 horizontal pixels)

[cyan ravine]

1440p is better considered 2.5K

[potent portal]

Indeed

[cyan ravine]

if you shop for "2K" monitors, we've seen it here before, you can often end up with a 1080p

so what is your budget

[spice dragon]

on what the monitor

or graphics card?

[cyan ravine]

the all things

whole computer

monitor, keyboard, mouse, funny keychain, all of it

[potent portal]

Depending on what games you play, the 4070 ti super can often easily push 1440p high refresh but if you're doing ray traced games the 4080 is better

[spice dragon]

i all ready have some parts |
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Cooler: Kraken X73 RGB, White
Motherboard: Aorus Elite AX ICE B650
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 - White

i just want to buy the graphics card and monitor

[cyan ravine]

ok so you want a white build

[spice dragon]

yes

[cyan ravine]

but what's your total budget

my monitor and graphics card recommendations do a whole 180 based on the answer to this question

[spice dragon]

for the graphics card 1200$ and the monitor maybe 400$

[cyan ravine]

if you did 960 for the graphics card and 640 for the monitor, you could do OLED

or swap the cooler out for something much cheaper, that would also grant you OLED

gaming and photoshop both benefit enormously from this

[spice dragon]

i can get an oled monitor but late r

[cyan ravine]

e.g

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xMLFf7/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-white-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-white-argb

[spice dragon]

but now do i get the 4070 ti super or 4080

[serene onyx]

I have, but it’s still doing the same ☹️

[cyan ravine]

https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z/

[spice dragon]

i already bought the nzxt kraken

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gy7scf/zotac-gaming-trinity-geforce-rtx-4080-super-16-gb-video-card-zt-d40820d-10p

[cyan ravine]

I know, but if you return it and swap to the dual tower, you'll lose no performance but you can spend way more on the monitor and get something 10x better

[spice dragon]

do you recomend gagabyte AERO

[cyan ravine]

no

aero is always expensive

in fact there aren't any decently priced white gpus rn

I'd recommend a can of white paint lol

[spice dragon]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[cyan ravine]

hey $10 vs $150 and they'd look the same with some patience

[potent portal]

I'm more of a "plasti dip the shroud" guy

[spice dragon]

ok thanks alot my friend

[potent portal]

More easily reversed than paint

[cyan ravine]

plastidip works too

much better if you want to backtrack

for your budget I'd do this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GfbDyg

[spice dragon]

il just use water paint

jk

[cyan ravine]

if you can't swap the cooler, do this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GtXJ7P/xfx-speedster-merc-310-black-edition-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx-79xmercb9

for the gpu

and still go oled

this one is dead easy to paint

the black part of the shroud comes easily undone, and they look great in white

[spice dragon]

the problem is that im used to nvidia im not thinking to change

[cyan ravine]

what they look like done

https://plecom.imgix.net/iil-380261-665826.jpg?fit=fillmax&fill=solid&fill-color=ffffff&auto=format&w=1000&h=1000

though black fans in this scenario

[spice dragon]

it looks cleaaaan

[cyan ravine]

mhm

[cyan ravine]

in your situation amd would make no difference

in fact, it's arguably faster

while spending less

https://plecom.imgix.net/iil-380260-665826.jpg?fit=fillmax&fill=solid&fill-color=ffffff&auto=format&w=1000&h=1000

the backplate would be silver

[spice dragon]

is it good for fps games

[cyan ravine]

but you'd get a decent idea from this

oh yeah

[spice dragon]

like call of dute

[cyan ravine]

call of duty LOVES AMD

talking like differences up to 30% more fps in some of them

here's someone else's paint job:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fpainted-my-xfx-7900-xtx-white-with-corsair-lcd-aio-v0-guy6mthpkq7a1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D921b260a9debc5e08ee3f73fc9f3e3f6dc1e9eed&rdt=53032

[spice dragon]

i just saw a test and the 4080 super is like the same

[potent portal]

I've seen the 7900 XTX beat the 4090 in CoD at 1440p because the game loves the drivers that much

[cyan ravine]

it's not all cod games

but some are just night and day better on AMD

@spice dragon

https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2589/bench/MW2_1440p_o.png

one example I vividly remember

[spice dragon]

i think i well get it you convinced me🤣

[cyan ravine]

lol

Merc is a good binned card and easy to paint

your only catch is it's not going to be the quietest

there are other XTX options though

[spice dragon]

there is no a msi or gaabyte ?

[cyan ravine]

I think hellhound paints well

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wHVmP6/powercolor-hellhound-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-24g-loc

there are msi but they're quite literally worse than stock for XTX

the goats are XFX and Sapphire

MSI and Gigabyte kinda mid

[potent portal]

Asrock honorable mention for the top cards

[cyan ravine]

only with OCF

[potent portal]

Which is why it's only honorable mention

[cyan ravine]

and even then, their ability to miss the die with paste has an incredible count in my head far more than any other brand

[potent portal]

idk gigabyte simply forgetting thermal pads on 3080s was pretty bad too

[cyan ravine]

if white paint seems like too much effort @spice dragon

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tb88TW/asrock-taichi-oc-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-24-gb-video-card-rx7900xtx-tcw-24go

but no higher than this

it's about on what I'd call the aesthetics limit of 10% over others

[spice dragon]

is it good with ryzen 7 7800 x 3d?

[cyan ravine]

ofc

they all are

that's why we gave generalised answers at first

it's easier to target advice with context

[potent portal]

7800X3D is the single best gaming CPU currently

You can put it with literally any GPU

[cyan ravine]

if you go the taichi btw, you'd need to swap the kraken cooler

if you want an lcd aio I'd suggest the thermalright frozen vision

same price/slightly cheaper and far, farrrr better

[spice dragon]

the problem that i bought it and open it

[cyan ravine]

ah I see

ok

either way, your build will be pivotal on getting that oled monitor imo

huge deal

especially for fps games

and you get unmatched color accuracy for photoshop

it's not even comparable to anything else

[spice dragon]

im just waiting for my cpu to arive and then i will but the oled monitor

[cyan ravine]

remember to DDU if you're using an old windows install

?ddu

[jolly river]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[spice dragon]

what does ddu means

[cyan ravine]

switching from NV to AMD you'll kinda want this ^

it cleans and sanitises the drivers for the graphics cards

gets it all out of your windows

for a fresh install

very very useful tool if you also run into gaming problems

[fiery nova]

Anyone have any ideas why my pc goes down to 1 fps when tabbing out? Its very rare probably happens 1 in every 100 times I tab out

Everything in task manager is fine while it's happening

Just my entire pc goes to 1 fps for a solid ~7 seconds

[empty pollen]

literally on the post "DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato"

[weary galleon]

Should be all the ones running on the modern cod engine (MW2019 and up)

[regal blade]

can someone rate my build

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/96bf4M

[cyan ravine]

@regal blade
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/VGtyBL

Fair bit better

[regal blade]

how is the 5500 better than the 5600x

[cyan ravine]

It's not, but the 6750xt is by a mile

5500 is like a slightly better 3600

[regal blade]

but not better than the 5600x

and this is a budget build

plus the psu isnt even modular

[cyan ravine]

Yes? A 5500 is fine for the 6750xt

And the psu is the best choice under 110

It's a solid quiet unit

[obsidian wigeon]

btw 5600x comes without a cooler

so you will be spending effectively the same money for a machine with worse gpu

coz cooler cost

[tawny violet]

wow

0303 BIOS version on a B650M-A Wifi 2

a BIOS version that doesn't even exist on Asus's website

@obsidian wigeon that doesn't sound right to me

[obsidian wigeon]

asus does that with some bios updates

[tawny violet]

and the worst part is that I'm stuck on it because I can't flash the bios

[obsidian wigeon]

it gets delivered before asus even published it on support

[tawny violet]

I mean I can try to like

borrow a flash drive from my stepdad and use that to update the bios

maybe it'll work

it technically could be the drive being picky

[regal blade]

It comes with a stock amd wraith cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

ah, nevermind on that then

i still think felix's list is the better one tho

better gpu matters more in this instance

[regal blade]

I would also agree but the place I’m getting these parts from doesn’t have a 6650xt they only have the 6600

[obsidian wigeon]

can't you buy from other places?

[regal blade]

nah

the place im getting the parts from is the cheapest places to get them

[regal blade]

and ive checked all pc stores near me the only place i can get the 6650xt is on amazon or on ebay both of which are not 100% safe

[obsidian wigeon]

you can look at sellers and verify tbh

but up to you, the pc is yours

[regal blade]

cant be stuffed

[lyric thistle]

it's pretty easy

don't need to be stuffed

[regal blade]

its not that i think its hard it just i cant be bothered to do it

plus ive already decided where to get the parts i just wanted 2nd opinions on it

[lyric thistle]

the second opinions are that you can be safe on ebuy :^)

[regal blade]

what do u guys think about this AIO

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/LMwkcf/id-cooling-auraflow-x-745-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-auraflow-x-360

[obsidian wigeon]

meh honestly

high end performing air coolers are better than average aio

[regal blade]

are air coolers the ones that look like boxes

[runic spruce]

Air coolers are ones with a heatsink and fan

But yes

[crimson zinc]

Air coolers tend to just be better in general for gaming

[bleak kayak]

Anyone who has a Thermaltake Versa H18 case, is the rgb strip addressable

[crimson zinc]

Head to google and see if you can find out

[lyric thistle]

the led strip

is a blue led lol

[limber oyster]

This is cool!

[severe hull]

When overclocking a cpu . How much more performance should it give ? After restarting it said it was .02 more don't remember what lol

Warzone is cpu dependent

[mossy venture]

wz 1 wasnt too cpu dependant, 2 is

[limber oyster]

I just leave my CPU OC on auto in the bios

[severe hull]

Might have to do that. Everytime we overclock once you shut off it goes back to default

Do those numbers look OK?

Is 99% usage ok

[limber oyster]

Yeah

Especially with those temps. You're fine

It's also a 6 core too so...

I have a 5900x on my big system and it's usually around 75-80% usage when I game

[tawny violet]

@obsidian wigeon would a Thermalright Frost Commander 140 beat a 360?

[obsidian wigeon]

probably easily lol

fan noise can be a concern tho

[tawny violet]

Wow really?
Even a Freezer III???

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-frost-commander-140-review

[tawny violet]

That's insane

[obsidian wigeon]

maybe not LF3

[tawny violet]

And def not a T30

[obsidian wigeon]

but definitely the second one

[tawny violet]

Since that's just in a whole higher league with the next gen fans

[obsidian wigeon]

LF3 is on a league of its own

[tawny violet]

T30 is above it tho

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[tawny violet]

Cuz it's got the premium fans

[obsidian wigeon]

like those are top two

this one will do just fine for you

if it can cool a 13700k fine

[tawny violet]

So yeah maybe not an LF3 or a T30

But that FC140 is still beating 99% of AIOs

[obsidian wigeon]

i wouldn't worry

[tawny violet]

That's kinda insane if you think about it

Thermalright out here locked in a deadly cooling arms race

Competing with itself lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

don't max fans out and you're good

unless you don't mind the noise

[tawny violet]

Yeyeye, makes sense
Esp in a good venting case

Though a P200A may not be exactly the best ventilation for a 7700X and 7900XTX

[obsidian wigeon]

doable

gpu might be a lil toasty

[tawny violet]

It's still two 120s in the front so

[obsidian wigeon]

but i think it's fine

[tawny violet]

CPU would be gud
And the GPU is right against the vented bottom

Since it's a top PSU design

[obsidian wigeon]

right

[tawny violet]

It should be fine right?

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[tawny violet]

Sure there is no actual I take fans (unless you Frankenstein them to the bottom outside of the case)
But that's still mesh allowing the GPU to intake fresh air from the bottom

[obsidian wigeon]

might want a more aggressive fan profile

but in the end it's ok

[tawny violet]

That's entirely fair, or you can get like two P12 Max fans and connect them to the GPU (Sapphire has a 4pin PWM linked to GPU temps so it can kick on fans)

Which I think is a really neat feature for like SFF builds where you really want to optimize noise and airflow

Frankly that's a use case where I would actually be willing to pay a little extra

[obsidian wigeon]

It's pretty much a pay less more noise or more for less noise game

[tawny violet]

If you look at the side profile
I think a 25mm thick fan would totally fit into the bottom (maybe affixed with zipties, cable routed into the case through the PCIE slot and plugged into a nearby fan header)

Or again, if you get a Sapphire Nitro+, you can literally just plug a daisy chain PWM connector right into the GPU and tune the curve to let them ramp up

The one time where I can totally justify spending extra on a higher-end GPU model

Sadly you appear to need their Trixx software to get PWM fan control, but you probably just need to set a fan curve there and then you're free to uninstall it

@obsidian wigeon actually does any other mfg put PWM or ARGB headers on their GPUs?

[obsidian wigeon]

I honestly have no idea

[tawny violet]

Cuz the Nitro+ cards all have that big RGB bar
And you can plug that RGB bar into the mobo

Which I think is pretty based actually

[obsidian wigeon]

pwm control for rgb is pretty cool

and i don't think is common

[tawny violet]

I mean it has a PWM header on the GPU
And an ARGB in from the mobo
They even provide the cable to connect the GPU RGB to mobo which is cool

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[tawny violet]

So yeah that could be something you would want depending on what your use case is
SFF builds come to mind where you're limited on headers and need to sync lighting (for a build you might intend to flip) or you want to let the GPU breathe better

But yeah it has a 4 pin PWM header for fan control and a 3 pin 5v ARGB connector to let mobo control the lighting

[crimson zinc]

@obsidian wigeon question
I have the option to get a 6gb gtx card

For like $30 from a friend

Is that enough to do heavily modded Skyrim

[obsidian wigeon]

sounds like a 1060

or 980ti

[crimson zinc]

1660 I think he said

[obsidian wigeon]

1660 likely

it can be anything lol

even a 2060 best case

iunno, physically look at it

then find out what it is

[crimson zinc]

I’ll have him send a pic to me

[crimson zinc]

@obsidian wigeon never mind, he doesn’t want to anymore:(

[obsidian wigeon]

f

[wild peak]

is it possible to run elden ring at max graphics for $1200

[mossy venture]

I don't have time, but 7600x/7900 gre list

[cyan ravine]

Yep

7600x off newegg, mp33 1tb free with it

Assassin x 120 v2 plus

B650m-a pro wifi

Adata xpg blade 6400 cl32 32gb

7900 GRE, Pulse? Iirc

Bitfenix nova m mesh argb/gamemax m60+thermalright c12c 3 pack/sama im01

Msi A850GL psu

That should hit around 1200-ish @wild peak

If you put that into pcpartpicker it'll spit out a list of places to buy from

Actually, 4070 super fits

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gNV9L9

Slightly better than GRE

@wild peak

[wild peak]

wait whats up with the ssd?

[cyan ravine]

It's free with the cpu off newegg

[wild peak]

oh sick

[cyan ravine]

Sorry I fixed the list

Had the wrong supplier

[little osprey]

2k pc good for gaming
like valorant or fortnite or siege
good fps n shi
no overclock
pls help

[cyan ravine]

@little osprey Monitor?

No monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jdLgxH
Monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LdZ7BL

[little osprey]

I got a 240hz acer nitro monitor

[cyan ravine]

240hz what res

[little osprey]

1920x1080

[cyan ravine]

Use the second list

[little osprey]

okok

you added a monitor 😭

[cyan ravine]

1080p is weaksauce for 2K budget, you may as well go oled and get an extreme monitor upgrade for responsiveness and clarity

Ye

Cos 1080p 240hz is wasted on anything over a 6700XT

If you stuck to the same monitor it'd be a 7600X 6700Xt list

Which is about 1K

[little osprey]

so what should I do

[cyan ravine]

Cos the monitor will bottleneck the fps gains

I'd either go with the 2nd list

Or I can make a new one with a 6700xt

[little osprey]

wtv gets me good fps n good performance for the games i said

[cyan ravine]

They all will, it's just a question if you want to change monitor or not

Cos the monitor will cap out at 240 for pretty much all of these

[little osprey]

yeah ik

gonna stick with the same monitor for now

[cyan ravine]

Anything higher than 240 you won't see so won't really be a benefit other than mild smoothness

[little osprey]

yeah

so which one do ill go with

[cyan ravine]

Oh oops I left the ssd out hold on

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gp77BL

This

The ssd is free with the cpu

Can also use the cpu cooler from the other 2 lists if you want

This is an SFF pc btw

Conveniently cheap

[little osprey]

bet ty

[cyan ravine]

@little osprey If you run into fortnite issues come back

It should run just fine on a 6700xt (especially DX11/performance mode) but just in case, leaving the door open

[little osprey]

okok thank you

[spice dragon]

WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS100T2X0E

is this good?

[cyan ravine]

FX900 pro beats it for a fraction of the price

[spice dragon]

can you send the link please?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VhbTwP/hp-fx900-pro-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-4a3u0aaabb

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mnxRsY/hp-fx900-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-4a3u1aaabb

[spice dragon]

thx

[regal blade]

i need help

[quasi kettle]

what you need help with

[regal blade]

i need to find a rtx 3060 12gb gpu for 300AUD

[quasi kettle]

I dont live in australia but thats around 200 US

[regal blade]

195

and the cheapest i can find brand new is 430

280usd

[quasi kettle]

check ebay

and use the filters and set it to 300 Australian dollars

or newegg

Helps narrow down your search and scroll down till you find someone selling a 3060 in good condition

You only gonna find used ones

its gonna be impossible to find a new one for under 300 AUD unless you are very luck for a flash sale to happen on that item

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-1080P-Monitor-VG279QM1A/dp/B0C84G7TNH/ref=sr_1_3?crid=KQQ1VY2TJTH7&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.6uytzpS94l3EuOjuXkj0XrHhld3ID2nJovP0wlLAdARz3JaHX_MF-8-0hZeX6BfDbQXaXpmUBxk0Gc2vnTtQdqMeTz-rOHAEtZyA-QLSfLwoFeP434ZdFZkOmNynN0gWHxWAn6HDRBySBzv1E_ypoFyPqpfkxxl9ZvyDW1IQ86dz0gYWDQqCihaMnVV3JOlq2GJD0KAp7uTgS1SkId6EMdve7XHv-05n4oTnFXWGRjA.kVltAKCQUYMRAdvhkSufiaYYtUItlrV0GeRLd17cTRs&dib_tag=se&keywords=280hz+1440p+gaming+monitor&qid=1711263473&sprefix=280hz+1440p%2Caps%2C129&sr=8-3
anyone know if this can be monitor arm mounted

[frigid night]

No, but yes. You would need to get a monitor "bracket" that's Vesa mount compatible.

Basically you set the monitor in the bracket and then you can mount it to the arm.

[regal blade]

can someone rate my build list?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/gdFN7R

[subtle halo]

when they wake up they will

[obsidian wigeon]

i wouldn't get an aio for such cpu

and no need for paste, tho it's nice to have if you need to use more later

[fossil cedar]

This is much much better
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/8cfT7R

[regal blade]

how so?

the 5600x is better then the 5600]

and i cant get a 6750xt

they nt sell it in my state

[spice dragon]

Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 Snow Edition 1050W 80+ Gold Full Modular SLI/Crossfire Ready ATX 3.0 Power Supply; PCIe Gen.5 600W 12VHPWR Connector Included; PS-TPD-1050FNFAGU-N; 10 Year Warranty

is this a good power supply?

[analog hearth]

Just overclock it

Better yet, just turn on PBO

I have a 5600G in my second system and it's kicking it pretty well

[regal blade]

im alrdy turning on xmp

[regal blade]

is pbo the same as xmp

[analog hearth]

No

PBO is an automatic overclocker for your CPU (better than manually OC'ing on Ryzen). XMP is a profile setting for memory (RAM) that configures the clocks, voltages, and timings

[regal blade]

oh

[analog hearth]

I personally just OC my RAM to its rated frequency. I usually have problems with XMP and DOCP

[regal blade]

I’ll ask my pc friends to help me with that as idk much bout OC

[mossy venture]

5600x isn't better than 5600

Theyre the same cpu, it's about a 1-2% difference

I'd try to do this though, and add gpu as you want (preferably 7600 or 6700xt)

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/qWtDyg

[fossil cedar]

They're basically the same, and mucy much better gpu, could get this instead then
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/NCwmP6/pny-verto-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-8-gb-video-card-vcg4060t8dfxpb1

[fossil cedar]

They'd be going a good 100 over budget at least

[fossil cedar]

Only thing worth manually overclocking is your gpu, other than that just turn on pbo and xmp

[regal blade]

With this build and a 6700xt it’s over my budget

[mossy venture]

What about 7600.

I would rather an r5 7600+ rx 7600 than 5600+ 6750xt

Especially for longevity/upgradability

[cyan ravine]

Over budget

[teal dome]

What is a decent budget build rn?

Below a 1000 for sure, light gaming like fort, gta and stuff and work stuff

[mossy venture]

Can do cheaper on psu if you're not worried about upgradability
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rgKtdH

Either Prestige 600w or cx 750

Ssd is free with the 7600x on wegg

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JsPpn6

Can swap gpu to something better in both lists as well

[cyan ravine]

@regal blade literally the best possible for your budget

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GdtDyg

Can't shrink it

Spent a good 20 minutes this time, nothing comes close to the value out of this list and it's worth the $30 extra

[teal dome]

Thank you

[teal dome]

Aight

[cyan ravine]

Think it needs to be said btw, 6700xt is a good 70% faster than the 6600

Be throwing away almost half of your fps if you commit to the 6600

[teal dome]

6700xt is a good card and it runs many games well

[cyan ravine]

ok it's well and truly minmaxed now

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/88v9L9

I have literally scanned every single article now

[teal dome]

1500 is crazy

How much in US dollars

[cyan ravine]

it's aud

so about...

900?

950?

[teal dome]

Damn still a lot for those parts I feel like lol

[cyan ravine]

the reality of living here...

[teal dome]

I have same build but with 5500 and 6700xt for 500 💀

[cyan ravine]

but at least these numbers translate fairly well

[teal dome]

I have same ram but different motherboard

[cyan ravine]

it translates well

but there's a some 10-20% extra for every item

bar the gpu

gpus are just blegh here

[teal dome]

Damn

[cyan ravine]

wtf

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/cW8tdH

@mossy venture

what is wrong with my country

[teal dome]

It’s over for au, might as well buy a prebuilt no?

[cyan ravine]

I got the list within a dollar

ok this is genuinely better

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/hgxBHG

@regal blade literally the best possible ^

1080p build

you've got a board that happily takes a 5950x now, with bios flash

decent gen 4 ssd

4060 Ti which is slightly faster in raster over 6700XT but less vram and bit bus so it's thoroughbred 1080p, almost 2x faster than a 6600 now

cheapest not garbage psu possible

cheapest mesh case with 3 fans

the cheapest best keyboard I can find bar the EVGA Z20 but this would be better to type with

and probably one of the best budget mice available

only alternative to that above, would be this if you must have a better cooler:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/mq8tdH

but the motherboard will only really do 5700X max, the keyboard and mouse albeit still ok are not as nice either

yep that's the limit

I've checked absolutely everything now, it won't physically get better unless you start replacing everything with used parts

[dusty cedar]

havent used my laptop in a very long time. is 51c idle temp on gpu normal?

[short yoke]

Should i recommend this to a buddy trying to get a pc

Wrong chat mb

[regal blade]

Does the mob have wifi6?

Wifi 5!?!?