#building-and-recc-chat
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The sticker on the SSD does act as a bit of a heatsink/spreader
Fr? Someone told me to take it off
Bc my Mobo comes with heat sink
Also I think I messed up
I’m watching a yt tutorial but this screw isn’t coming off
I'm fairly sure you leave it on, the motherboard heatsink goes on top of it
For my SSD
I'd refer to the motherboard manual
Idk it came out with the heat sink
Bro these SSD heat sinks are so confusing
So they gave me 2 SSD screws in bags but my mobo had them on the heart sinks already?
I think the screws were backups.
Btw looks like they're gonna be out in late January
Got my itx to boot
MrBeast is running a “request a gift” promo
I’m taking my chances
Wrong way around
Flip it upside down
You best be giving him that survey>:(
Anyone have a idea where these 3 go
GODDAMNIT
Probably somewhere /s
Oh my
And it’s done
Hi I upgraded my GPU and everytime I play the finals or iracing the game randomly drops to 10 FPS from 200 and my mouse cursor starts lagging around when I move it for like a minute and then it goes back to normal? Help? Xmp is disabled tried ddu multiple times no luck. Even uninstalled geforce nothing working.
@leaden mauve
Baller
most likely drivers
?ddu
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
trid ddu like 5 times no luck, tried uninstalling geforce no luck im lost
tried reseating gpu 10x
tried disabling xmp no luck
treid re plugging all psu cables no luck
triend underclocking gpu no luck
tried bios update no luck
dried using another dp cable no luck
tried reinstalling game no luck
no lucj
k
Any chance you bumped your cpu cooler or something? The weird behavior is pretty similar to temperature throttling;
Eh it probably isn’t but who knows
well i did do case swap when i upgraded gpu but i dought its the problem
Check your cpu temps just in case
Bad PSU u think randomly dropped to 90w and temp went fro 70 to 50 for couple seconds cause stuttering than went back to normal
Nigh impossible for a bad PSU to cause frame stutters. Power issues stemming from the PSU means instant shut off usually.
Might kinda be worth checking to see if it's CPU or GPU causing a framespike using PresentMon. Tho that only barely helps diagnosing the issue. For example there can be lag spikes at the DX/Vulkan/OpenGL/etc API layer where it's still doing CPU work. Could also have CPU lag spikes from the game.
PresentMon: https://github.com/GameTechDev/PresentMon
PM setup: https://www.techspot.com/article/2723-intel-presentmon
Due to being rather hard to find what specific software bug is happening, your best bet is to likely reinstall Windows using the Media Creation Tool. Tho you can check to see if it's just a corrupted Windows install. Make sure that RAM is set to default JEDEC speeds (not XMP) and run SFC /scannow && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth && SFC /scannow in admin CMD.
Anybody know a psu under $100 for a RX 6800
are you open to tiktok shop or nah
without tiktok, prolly 850 pmd https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pjZXsY/deepcool-pm850d-850-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-r-pm850d-fa0b-us
with tiktok, rm750e or seasonic focus gx 850
Ty
That's your nvidia driver that it's naming as the cause.
Either the driver or the video memory is bad.
it’s probably cuz I forgot to install drivers when I reset this pc
Weirdly, it can also be ram
I’ve done nothin with my ram in 3 years
I should be able to fix by just installing recent drivers right
Is there anything that couldn't be RAM though? The key question is whether it's the same code every time
Yes
Then probably not RAM because it's a little more, well, random
Yeah fair point lol
Update, my pc is dying
Installed new drivers, game was fine, started losing frames badly
Game died, now I’m getting 16 frames in the tower in d2
90+ in menu
Hey guys
I just built a pc
AND it says cpu fan error
But the cpu fan is spinning
AND it's working
Do I just ignore the error?
@mossy venture
@potent portal
Something needs to be plugged into the CPU fan header and it'll go away
Oh ok
Alright
Well it is?
Ohhh it's cause I think I plugged it into cpu fan header 2
Ight
I got it
I'd be a little more concerned about the GPU not having uefi enabled, that could be just a bios update needed but that typically happens on very old GPUs (nvidia 600 and older)
It's a rx 6600
Hopefully the uefi error goes away on its own or with a bios update
Otherwise you won't be able to use resizable bar
Wdym
Rebar is basically free performance on modern systems
Oh
It's enabled by default a lot of the time for things that support it
Update your bios
How so
Then it'll have tpm and such enabled by default so it'll pass the compatibility check
How do I do it, I don't have another laptop or pc on hand
You just need to extract the bios update to a USB drive somehow, a phone works even with the adapter
Even better
I just do it using the USB right
Yep, then once it's on the drive you go into the bios and select the update file
Easy peasy
Bet
Ok so
I have the files and stuff on the usb
Is there a specific way they have to be in the us
Usb?
@potent portal
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RTxbt6/cooler-master-masterbox-pro-5-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcy-b5p2-kwgn-03 is this a good case
No, as long as they're extracted and the USB is fat32 format (usually the default except in very large drives)
Yeah you don't have anything to back up lol
Ur right
The mesh version is ok, nothing too special, but the solid panel version is pretty toasty
It's saying that there is no bios update on the usb?
I put the 2 files onto the usb
Do I delete the renamer?
Or what
Or should it automatically work
This is weird
Doesn't matter
When you go to select the bios file in the flash menu you'll just pick that second file
I did
You can delete them both after
BUT it's not a proper bios
It keeps saying "file selected is not a bios"
But I downloaded the bios update from the site
What's the file extension
.cap
That should be right
Hm
Is it the exact match to your motherboard model? WiFi and non WiFi models for example use different versions.
Alright
I'll try that
Ok I think I found the right one
How do I make a w11 USB on a chrome book.
I alr had the w11 thing ready
But I had to delete it all to make the bios usb
Kms
@potent portal
What's a good GPU to go with a i5-2400
😭
Can anything over a rx 570 work with it
Work with it sure
The i5-3470 limits even a 1030 gddr5 at times
Oh lord
So what can I upgrade too
To make it better
Or will I have to get a better cpu
Better cpu 100%
I would do used 10th gen and newer i5s, 8th gen and newer i7s, 3600 and above, and 5000 series (and better ofc, just depends on what you want to spend)
For new, 12100f, 5600, 7600, 12600k/13600k etc
And matching mobo/ram
WHY DOES MY PC KEEP RESTARTING IN GAMES!!!
randomlyyy
i tried undervolting i tried this i tried that
THIS THING BRANd new
Bro
The pc doesn't meet the requirements for w11
😐
I update bios and everything
AND it still syas
Doesn't meet the requirements
THE MOBO SAYS W11 READY
😭😭
Help 😭
@mossy venture can u help
😔
@potent portal
I need help guys
Why does it keep doing this 😭
Guys.
🧍🏽♂️
This is making me angry
@obsidian wigeon
Help
It keeps doing the same thing
I even turned on secure boot
My pc meets all the requirements listed on the windows website
Simply and very #Shorts video how to install Windows 11 on unsupported PC using flash drive.
If you have error, This PC can't run Windows 11.
regedit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup
LabConfig
BypassTPMCheck
BypassSecureBootCheck
I did this youtube video thing and it worked
But I wanna make sure it's not gonna mess up anything before I press continue
Guys ☹️
Will this mess up anything on the pc in the future?
@mossy venture what do u think?
Fawk it
Sorry I just saw this
I'm very out of it and don't think I understand what is going on
Ping fest
Sorry for the delay. Just got home.
It'll work fine once it's installed. The only possible problem would be when windows 12 comes out and you try to upgrade, and you have to bypass it again.
Alright, thank you
Judge Newegg’s prebuilt enthusiast build
The AIO is trash, they've had recall after recall over that pump in that series.
ITX board in a 5000X is definitely a decision.
I hope they tested that 6400 memory thoroughly with synced UCLK.
1700 for a 7800X3D and 3070 hurts me deeply
They're really pushing those RMx units aren't they
I was curious as to what new egg’s official “ready to build” lists were on their pc builder shortcut
Turns out
They are hot garbage
I bet they could hire any of the few regulars here and those lists would look 1000x better regularly
This just shows the lack of research with most of the pc space
people just throw together parts
without seeing if it's actually good value
Really though, ask anyone here with a techie tag and we'll make a list for free. They can even add restrictions like "must be on newegg" and "no third party" and we accommodate. What they do with the list after, who cares.
lol
meanwhile the average LTT pc lists:
here's something stupid
are there any psus that can power 2 systems?
is it safe tho
Sure
Not a lot goes through that 24 pin, the majority of the current is in the EPS cables
1600w units can definitely do dual system
Yep they'll have all the extra cables you need
I am having X99 itch
iirc some come with two mobo output
ahhhh I don't need X99
You need to make an entire pc build shaped like a Roomba
If someone ever made me a build inside a Roomba
I’d use that for life
Idc what games come out
I’ll use that till I die
do you want the roomba functions
No
Must be inanimate
ok

But make it able to play modern games
NUC can do that
Let me be able to play d2 on max
Modern pc building
No need, they have actual PCIe slots
oh they do?
minisforum....
damn
That's the NUC 13 extreme
Full x16 gen 5 slot
And it fits in a shoebox
And no that's not a laptop 13900k either, that's the full fat desktop model
what's this pcpp connection authentication thing
It's getting annoying
doesn't work on my phone for some reason
The captcha? It comes up if there's either sus activity from your (shared, public) IP or if you do things too fast
it gets stuck in a loop if i go on my data
Someone on your carrier probably triggered the cloudflare protections
that's annoying
Keeps people from DDoS'ing sites so it's a necessary evil
Ah I knew I wasn’t awake enough
There’s a black mouse in there
Idk
I clicked on something this morning
newegg please
🤮
this value man
and this is the entry level
It just goes to the default page for me
Did I make the same one
God I can’t think
ok i think my newegg is just broken
"He doesn't want to change the psu"
lol
I have a “crap” ton of lists in my Newegg
I’m gonna sift through them then send the build I meant to
Are there any platforms where I can get cheap high core count cpus that's newer than X99?
Define high core count
Shared List https://newegg.io/a5848418
What the heckerino did I make this for
more than 8 cores
Did I even make this
AM4 does 12-16 cores
@cyan ravine am I on something
Who is SQUIRET
I can definitely do this better
Do you make builds you have no idea why or when you made them for
yes
I get messages like 2 or 3 weeks after some people build theirs
and their like "thanks" and I'm thinking "who the hell are you"

I’ve decided that I’m gonna start my Newegg and pcpp build lists over
New year new pc mental issues
There's this one guy who was dming me for help... in a period while i was inactive on newegg
I was so confused
apparently he was dming everyone
I'd say I've done about 69 lists that I don't remember who or why they were for
and every single time i just told him to ask on the server
Probably one for me before my Autism did a deep dive into pc learning
because I'm not the best person to help with his problem
I don't think he understood that it's just rude to just dm everyone
- it's not the most effective way to get help
Multiple peoples inputs ensure product bias doesn’t completely take over
Part List - Intel Core i9-13900K, GeForce RTX 4080, Phanteks Eclipse P400A Digital ATX Mid Tower
i hate product bias
brand bias in particular
"It's corsair surely it's good???"
"Asus is a big brand they don't make anything bad"
I'll shill logitech and AMD processors and I'm not ashamed to admit it lol
and if going only through newegg is the choice here then I wouldn't do only newegg for $1000 difference lol
Heh heh
Which is why it's good for other people to see what I put in to make sure it's not a bad suggestion
my case selections are biased towards phanteks and fractal so I'm guilty too
I’ve used EVGA stuff nearly the entire time I’ve had a pc
But everyone I’ve talked to hates it and everything about it
Lemme find my first pc build
Hold
Part List - AMD Ryzen 3 1300X, GeForce GTX 960, Deepcool MATREXX 70 ATX Mid Tower
This is what I was working with 3 years ago
This was all free
well I guess the more odd part is the fact that it's 2 2x8GB kits instead of one 2x16GB kit
So he just gave me it and it’s been banging away ever since
I guess it's not bad for 2020
The pc I think only cost a total of $140 to build
Everything was donated or got off fb marketplace
Happens all the time lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077777664254947378/1185407630127157338/image.png
I soon upgraded to a ryzen 5 4500
And a 1080
what even is the usecase
Until I get my new build
I think this is my current?
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 4500, GeForce GTX 1080, Deepcool MATREXX 70 ATX Mid Tower
I don’t know what I’ve taken out or replaced since I made that list
This was this week. No one should be buying a TR 3990X today. Especially not with 2 channels of DDR5.
And I don't even think that air cooler will fit
yeah that's AM4/115X/1200
and ON A THREADRIPPER
that thing will not cool a threadripper
That would barely cool a 12400
I've seen better coolers at the same price
I've seen better everything at the same price
Cool
what is it calculating
your death
"should we kill far?" the complex answer that still leads to "yes"
Should we though? He'll die soon anyway in a cosmic sense
We all will
We're just blips
It's 5AM and I've had 3 hours of sleep
I wouldn't doubt it either
the level of jank
that comes from that old stuff

like us discovering microplastics decades later after the damage is done
Just like the asbestos and lead poisoned generations before us
Yeah except we always knew that asbestos causes lung problems since at least the Romans
And lead too come to think
People are just dumb and fragile
"Let's put lead in the paint, which has the side effect of making it taste sweet, what could go wrong"
Asbestos also happens to be a really decent extinguishing agent, so let's aerosolize it
"It can also create boomers who pause for five years when you ask them a single question"
Good morning all !
I purchased a pc for my youngest. It has an integrated GPU . I am upgrading my oldest son's pc for Christmas so I will be taking his old GPU 1650 and hoping I can put it in my youngest pc ! Possible ?
They could give me $20 a day and I'd make them lists for each budget 10x better
Theyre really just causing their own problems
Yep! Perfectly fine
Just make sure you
?ddu
DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU
For both pcs when you swap gpus
One thing to check though, psu in the igpu build
Almost gaurabteed it'll work since 1650 is a 75w gpu
So that's actually next for my oldest pc so I will have a spare
If I'm looking at it right its a 650
But probably a cheap one
Hello got a question would a i7-11700F go perfectly well with my 4080?
im ready if i need to get a better cpu
Unless you're at 4k no, you'd be leaving performance on the table with an 11700
Likely a lot of it
No cpu on that platform is good enough for an xtx/4080/4090
Maybe an oced 10900k would be alright with a 4080/xtx at 1440p, im not completely sure
i wouldn't do that
i'd say grab some 12th gen chip
or 13th gen i5 13600k i think is quite good for the price..?
Oh no I wouldn't go from an 11700 to a 10900k
thinking about building a pc for my brother budget 1k
maybe less if possible, rgb doesnt matter
@low path any guidelines for it?
Peripherals needed, cpu preference, etc etc
gaming 1080p
only gaming
he mainly plays fps games, some anime games KEK
I’m assuming you already have a monitor/mouse/etc for him?
Threw this together rq, can do cheaper with tiktok shop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JVZbRK
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6700, Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower
what parts should i get from tiktok shop
5600, b550m pro se, 32gb ddr4 possibly, 670p mp33 or mp34, or whatever other decent 1tb ssd, rm750e
none
Case whatever with a mesh front
Anything I recommend on it is shipped and sold by newegg.
yeah
It's perfectly fine as long as it is
Mhm
Could also do b760 pg sonic wifi with an lga 1700 chip or a b650
With an am5 chip
12600kf is cheap
And better than 5600
on tiktok shop? or just change it in general
Could also do 6600 off tiktok
Tiktok
There's also other options those were just off the top of my head
If you did 6600, you can do this for case+ psu
Or 6600xt/6650xt
6700 I'd spend the extra for better case/psu
any fans in that case?
Believe an exhaust, not sure about otherwise.
Airflow wise it's ass, but for $50 it's a case and a power supply
ill prolly stick with that other case bc he plays fps games like cod so airflow is needed
which one should i get
Just look around, if you see one you like feel free to ask me
Imo b760 pg sonic wifi with 12600kf and a cheap tower cooler is the beat choice
deep cool ak400 zero work?
That, 214xt, ag200, basically anything
Could spend some extra for a dual tower, $10 extra or so
which one?
Literally any dual tower from thermalright lol
I normally go for cheapest that isn't part of the silver soul line
5600 is still a solid choice though, it should be like $20 cheaper than the 12600kf, comes with a cooler, and cheaper mobo options
Ak620 is great but $63 is a bit much
but for cod i think the 12600kf is bet ter
Phantom spirit is just as good for $35
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MzMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se-argb
This is also fine, good bit worse https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lvytt6/thermalright-silver-soul-110-54-cfm-cpu-cooler-ss110-black
oo i was lookin at tiktok shop for these lol but yea cheaper on newegg ig
It's wild what thermalright has done in the past year or two
It really is, theyre dominating the cooler space except for high high end
$35 dual tower cooler with RGB, 7(?) heatpipes, and black colored top surfaces
*And decent fans
Can also do ram, case, and psu on tt
And ssd
Also 12600kf shows $123 for me
Not 140
Try a diff account
Shows 135 still for me
How does the 7800xt like get the weirdest stats during benchmarks?
Hm
Like I see it beat the 6950xt or even 3090, but when it plays some games it’s under the 6950xt and runs way hotter
Just different architecture
Ah
If k is cheaper go for it
cheaper than the 5600 u mean or
theres this prebuilt for 750
nvm ill jst build him one
the 5600 is 116 on tiktok
Thats pretty nice
Less upgradability, but easier
Lenovo is pretty good pre built wise
its out of stock gg
ill prolyl go with a custom one bc upgradeable
Ye
For gpu, you can do anything from 6600xt-7800xt for $1000 and under
Its your choice on what exactly, could even do a used 3080/6800xt or better
ye i might buy a used nvidia card or amd card from hardware swap jsut to save some money maybe but idk
what do u recommd for that build u gave me? anything i should change if i get a 3080
budget is 1k
in total for the pc build
Yes 100%
6800, 6800xt, 6900xt, 6950xt, 3080/12gb/ti/3090, anything along those lines
Though def get rm750e from tiktok then, or seasonic 850
Gives you the ability to run basically any gpu you want for both of them
bet
PA120 is comparable to the NH-D15 noise normalized on a 13900K at 253W and it doesn't get much more high end than that
Noctua noise/performance for $40, insane
What are some really good 360mm aios I’m going to get one for Christmas
hmm
For LGA1700, LT720 or LS720
Yes but I've seen a greater than normal number of people complaining about pump failure on those so I don't trust them
Is the ls720 se good?
pairing with a 12600kF
that is I believe
Do you plan to overclock the processor
uhhh he was asking me lmao but hit or miss on that tbh.
And 87.99
If you might in the future then a Z board now would save you changing it later
Wdym
Oh my bad
I should use the pings to avoid confusion lol
Yes it's the same but with a slightly different pump block cover
Is there a rgb version of the lt720?
But it's easy to swap fans
Does the se have the same performance as the lt720?
Yes, the only differences are cosmetic
Then I might just get the se my kraken x73 did me good
Oh mainly meant high end of aios, but thats still incredible
But I have had a cat puke on it and spilled wax on it
Swap fans if you want https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vq6p99/thermalright-tl-c12c-s-x3-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12c-s-x3-d6
Keeping in mind these do include overclocked results so there's a few percent variance in the results
I don't believe the 7800xt loses to the 6800xt in direct 10-12
Which is why it's a rough comparison
true
plus you gotta include driver updates and etc
but i'm surprised 7700xt is worse than the 6800
would you recommend a 6800 buy or a 7700xt? paired w 12600kf and ddr5.
Slightly more reliable data
6800 XT and 7800 XT are nearly identical, and so are the 7700 XT and 6800. The 7700 XT has newer features like hardware AV1 encoding but otherwise isn't worth the increase in price.
alright
Uhh…
Do I retire my razer kraken tournament edition for this 💀
Although I hate razer so much, it’s literally my mouse n headset that’s razer, plus my headset has a good mic
It's a definite upgrade yes.
But it's still mid by headphone standards
Drip
bro in #build-pics got an iBuyProblems
How do these compare?
Hey was helping my friend build a PC yesterday(and going back today) to fix a few issues. We turned it on and fans turned on, rgb etc etc but the GPU wasn't moving at all and the MOBO had none of the debug lights on.
I'll send the parts list real quick
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7900 XTX, Lian Li LANCOOL III ATX Mid Tower
How long did you let it sit
It can take 5-10 minutes to do the first boot, longer with more memory
That's what I said but I had to get going. Everything seemed fine besides no RGB or fans on the GPU
I'm heading over in a few but just wanted some ideas for before then
I like triple checked all those and I think they're good but you never know
Also update the bios using flashback if you haven't yet
Updated bios yaaaaa
Ah true good idea!
And the last thing was for the AIO; does it matter if the tube is like this or should I put it other way around? Was kinda a rushed job
I think on those boards you just rename the update file to MSI.ROM
Tubes don't matter much
As long as it's not kinked
Alright I figured just looks a little awkward
Those huge cases with the metal panels in the back for cable management are so nice
Bro I got a $5 Corsair headset a while back
Can someone help me, I’m having trouble with my pc. It has power but not turning on.
Is this a new build or just a new problem
xD the logo cost u 4 bucks
Brand new tho
New problem, was running good about a week ago. I opened the back and started messing with some wires to put in a new HDD in two days ago, tried to game yesterday and it won’t turn on.
Probably a loose cable somewhere then
You can start unplugging things one by one to find the culprit
isnt the tube should be pointing below
Made shire I did that before started to ask for help
Took all the wires out and put them back in
I hit the bios button and a red light turns on
I'd try with nothing except the 24 pin, CPU power, and GPU power plugged in
If you can get into bios then it's a loose/bad cable, if not then it's a deeper issue
Could it be the motherboard?
Can you smell burnt plastic
No
The next thing to try with only the minimum power connections would be a cmos clear
?cmos
How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html
Defines CMOS technology and how to clear CMOS using the jumper or battery methods.
No
It won't even post to bios?
Could be the power supply
Worked fine for a while and then one cheap component pops? -this is conjecture
It’s a 650w 80+ gold
That means literally nothing as far as quality, that's just an efficiency rating
Who made it
There's gold rated units that explode under load, as in POP and smoke
It's at least C tier then, so that's good
I guess that does leave the mobo
How is the cmos clearing going
Not a headphone expert :(
I took out the battery out of my mother board but it is amd, need to look at the instructions on manual
?cmos
How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html
Defines CMOS technology and how to clear CMOS using the jumper or battery methods.
Oh was already done, mb
It's the same instructions for all motherboards, the only thing that varies is which features your board has. Most modern ones will have the jumper at least. The only thing you'd need to check is the location of it.
Sorry, read that when I sent my last message
Didn’t work
I’m gonna try taking it all apart and putting it back together again
The crucial 1tb ssd but I bet you could get it new for that price too
Didn’t work
If I have an rgb mouse that turns on if you click one of the buttons could that fry the mother board?
And or psu?
I wonder why my pc won’t turn on then
Computer Hardware Chart
use browser to zoom in. or plugins maybe.. very nice
Older list it seems, only goes to ddr3
yea its still a nice reference though iirc some stuff on there was blatantly wrong... though that mightve been another old list i had saved
yea that list is fine
"future" lmao
xD yeah
this is from 2016 sadly someday we get 2024
if someone here is a good collector
no thats from before 2009
the image i mean
Socket 7... back in the day that AMD and Intel used the same socket.
teamwork makes the dream work
@potent portal and the others who helped me to try and fix my problems with my pc, it was a bad psu, thankyou and I appreciate all of your help
nice
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JVZbRK this a good build?
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6700, Phanteks Eclipse G300A (3 Fan) ATX Mid Tower
Depends on polymer
A notable example is bakelite (this plastic isn't really used anymore since it's really old) and it can go over 200c for several hours without any significant degradation
Building it for my brother
I'd do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gwjwmD
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6700 XT, MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower
@low path just change psu to one of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dbCZxr/msi-mag-a750gl-pcie5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a750gl-pcie5
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xLtKHx/apevia-prestige-600-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-atx-rp600w
Other than that the list is basically point for point what I'd do
So it's a good list
Oh maybe change case again cos it's no longer 35$
But it does go on sale pretty cheap if you wait
the one you linked is yes
and is fine
any normal pc doesn't really require full atx anymore
is that a similar mobo that isnt micro
if you want cheap
cheap and full atx don't really go hand in hand
it's cheaper to just go with an matx case
is there a board thats like 100$ that isnt micro?
why do you need a non micro board
You said that’s a cheap board isn’t it?
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there are atx boards but like
the point being you will end up coming closer and closer to a higher tier with every dollar at the low end
just get matx
it's easier
"Cheap" does not equal "bad"
Micro boards have all the same features, minus extra PCIe slots and possibly minus one M.2
matx is just a form factor
I actually prefer matx over itx
Cost effective for smaller builds
whats a good matx case then
oo okay
I would say this needs some work...what's your total budget for a build?
It’s for my brother around 700
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6sf6N6 That would be my take..unless you want to stick with bottom of the barrel parts to try to squeeze in a better GPU. That board just went out of stock. But MSI's own website has it for $99 bucks still. And i personally wouldn't downgrade to any lesser boards to save 10 or 20 bucks as the VRMs and upgradability of that board will trump any mATX sub 100.
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 5600, Radeon RX 6650 XT, Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower
i was keeping you under $700, that's why i asked you what the budget was....but yeah you can substitute for a 6700xt if that's what you want....so if you feel $60 is worth about 20 or so more frames...go for it....
Differences in frames doesn't really make sense
It's about a 20-25% difference
In some games that can be 60 fps, in others that might be 10
B550 a pro is nice but also doesn't have wifi, the ds3h isn't the best mobo but it's perfectly fine for a 5600
that's why it's an average...not one specific game....
And can easily handle an upgrade to the 5800x3d
Yes but people play a lot more than those 12 games. It makes more sense to just give a % diff or have them look at benches for games they plan to play
As a general performance difference that graph is good
i disagree a set percentage is very vague...saying a GPU is X% amount of better than another is a slippery slope....that's why we have plenty of reviewers and benchamarks....
that's why we don't take sites like userbenchmark serious
We don't take ubm seriously because it bases its performance comparisons on things beyond just performance
Passmark gpu/cpu comparison is a great tool, though not so much for comparing amd to nvidia
A % makes sense because its a % more performance in a game. Like 6700xt on average will get 20-25% more fps than the 6650xt
we can agree to disagree, i just have a different take.... 20% - 25% percent sounds cool on paper but going from 110 to 130 in frames is not a game changing experience as a normal everyday user will not notice the difference....so the percentage makes it sound more dramatic than what it really is...welcome to marketing 101.....
That's true, but it also isn't just fps it's being able to turn graphics settings higher at same fps
Also extra vram will let the 6700xt keep up a bit longer
so this list ill get but with the 6700xt
sounds solid....
bet
If you need wifi would need a separate adapter
He’s gonna be hard wired
My fan has 3 pin and molex. Can I just connect 3 pin to 4 pin on motherboard and leave the molex hanging off
For a build in 2023/2024 Those parts at those prices don't make any sense at all.....2060 super for 430? I think not...lol.....
What your budget my guy?
we can do a million times better for 1.5K
Lol hopefully
why no AMD......or do i even want to know?
I stay away from AMD in my experience ive had 3 cards fail on me and they run so hot
Ah well i stay with intel jus bc its normally easier to build off them motherboard wise
Lol ur good
And i don't want to deal with pins on a CPU
And the new one without the pins are hella expensive
welp you're in luck AMD doesn't have pins on the CPU anymore....both platforms are now LGA sockets
Yea but the lga ones be expensive lol a i5 12th gen should be enough for most uses
they're about the same cost wise...an B650 board and a 7600x is cheaper and peforms better than what you had in your Amazon cart by miles but we'll do Intel if that's what you're comfortable with
but i would advise you do some research and catch up to where things are right now...the market and prices have changed
Well i do im jus trynna build a near copy of my build for my buddy bc ik mines good for now except the GPU is a little low
But for the most part its always upgradeable in the future
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zmTXVW Well that's under 1.5K and that's with a 4070 and a 280hz 1080p monitor....could also do 1440p as well instead....
Part List - Intel Core i5-12600KF, GeForce RTX 4070, Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower
Thanks my man🫡
oh please no
why 4070
They specifically stated they weren't interested in an AMD GPU
and if they aren't interested in an AMD and not the 4070 they'd have to find a used 3080ti or higher to get the same relative performance....
it's better than a 3080 at 1080p
Part List - Intel Core i5-13600KF, GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower
if we wasn't including a monitor the 70ti is the no brainer....but i see yall subscribe to the min-max build philosophy around here...lol....
Can damn near fit an xtx in that budget
I would do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CgvHqR
Part List - Intel Core i5-12600KF, GeForce RTX 4070 Ti, Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower
Well I would do 7800xt or 7900xt, but if you refuse to go amd there you go
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600, GeForce RTX 4070, Phanteks Eclipse G300A (1 Fan) ATX Mid Tower
worth $1800?
Unless you play first person shooters competitively, 1440p180hz would likely be better than 1080p280hz
If you'd build your own, no
If you're exclusively looking for a pre built, I dont think you could do better
alright
What I'd do for custom https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XF7kHG
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Radeon RX 7900 XTX, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower
For 4080, but this is much worse value https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jQpqrv
Part List - AMD Ryzen 5 7600, GeForce RTX 4080, Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower
You get a bit worse gpu, worse cpu, for basically the same price
whens the 4070 ti super release?
It likely won't be a thing
4070 super and 4080 super, possibly 4080 ti
Maybe 4060 super but I doubt it
For those, I think we're looking at a January launch but im not certain on that
i think the 4070 msrp stays the same as the super will probably be priced in between the current 4070 and 70ti...i think the 70ti super replaces the 70 ti and those get cheaper or discontinued
but those are my guesses....we'll find out in a couple of weeks i guess...best advise is if you are dead azz serious on getting one of those cards you might want to wait
discontinued so that means no more driver updates?
no it just means they won't be making new ones
This doesn't make a lot of sense, and it even has an error in the "article" where it says 7 dates and lists 8.
it says 7 embargo's....the announcement doesn't count as an embargo
not sure what else wouldn't make sense
Fal might've missed how there's 2 on Jan 8th. What's up Meezy.
@strong raft What up!?
Ah yeah missed that
70 Ti Super kind of is a bit laughable of a name, perhaps it's just me.
I'm pretty sure reviewers will start getting these soon...might be getting them already....
70ti super duper extreme max ultimate tournament edition
Reviewers get them about 3 days to a week before launch
My ram finally arrived!
First kit I ordered was deemed undeliverabler by sender and this kit got marked as delivery attempted right as I noticed the Amazon car was leaving and chased after it.
Going to buy a USB stick then upgrade.
nice
Appreciate it but ive had nothing but lemons and duds with AMD so ill stick with Nvidia i wanna go with Intels Arc but theres not much field testing done for them rn
Arc is worse quality than and gpus, they have gotten better since launch though
Yea thats why im waitin lol
But if you know they're worse than amd gpus, why-
Bc im waitin for them to get better
I'm not going to nvm
Where do I install windows ISO?
it's generally easier to just make a bootable USB using the MS media creation tool https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11
an iso file is basically like having a disk without having a physical disk..you have to mount it and open it on already running OS
or using command prompt
Could someone guide me on what to install on my USB stick for fresh install of windows on new pc?
Click on the link i just gave you, but it must be done on another PC with windows....the second option says "create windows 11 installation media" you download the tool insert the USB and it will format the drive and will do everything for you........if you need more detailed instructions watch this video
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Thank you.
Should I flash bios? X670-P mobo from MSI.
7950x3D is the cpu, is bios flash as easy as just pressing the bios flash button once mobo has internet access and power?
I personally update the bios to the latest version every time i do a new build....considering the agesa updates and memory updates AM5 has received over the past year or so i'd say your best bet for stability will be using the most current bios
Alright, how do I flash bios? Is it easy or do I gotta go through a series of USB shananigans?
no, you have to flash the bios using a USB drive as well
there are two different ways using M-Flash in the bios or by using the bios flashback button
The MSI board has a flash button, so what will I need to do?
Got an MSI motherboard with a Flash BIOS button on the rear I/O? Here's a step-by-step guide on what you will need and how to use the Flash BIOS button.
Chapters:
0:00 BIOS Flash Button Tutorial Intro
0:25 What You'll Need
0:29 Creating the USB stick to flash the BIOS
0:49 Formatting the USB stick
1:14 Downloading the BIOS from us.msi.com
1:43 ...
In this demonstration, we'll show you how to update BIOS using M-FLASH ?
Take your pick....
Either way I need to get my pc up and running first right?
Yes, i'd advise to do the bios first before you install windows, but that is your choice....
nope you'll be fine
Aight, windows first then haha.
don't activate windows tho until after you flash the bios
Hopefully my board and cpu can handle 6000cl32.
Gotcha, thanks for the notice. Any particular reason?
because alot of times windows will treat a bios flash as installing new hardware....almost like you've swapped to a new motherboard, so it will prompt you to re-activate windows....and depending on your windows license this can cause issues re-activating windows using the same key
Does the windows media install automatically format my usb drive? I kinda forgot to do that if not.
yes it will automatically format and erase everything on the drive
okay good.
Gotcha. Good to know for the near and future future.
How much thermal paste should I use?
I hear X is usually the preferred pattern but idk how much.
Pea sized amount in the middle of the IHS...once you tighten down your cooler it will spread the thermal paste across the IHS so no need to overdo it....what cooler do you have? I'd assume you'd have an AIO with a 7950x3D?
LS720 in push/pull config using P12s
LS720 has pre-applied thermal paste already if i'm not mistaken....if it's new that is....
Yes it does
Also pea is fine on AM5, just make sure it's an actual pea
Not like, baby pea
I am re-applying.
Reusing the cooler from existing build.
Line, cross or spread for lga1700
Would cross be better?
gotcha...pea size is enough....
So more paste doesn't do much for perfect contact
Much like an aio does basically nothing over a dual tower
Because of the ihs
AM4 and AM5 use the same cooler?
Mhm
Okay good wanted to confirm.
Okay am I doing something wrong? I installed M.2 Q-Latch from MSI but it won't swing on top of the drive.
Am I supposed to snap these legs off?
The Q-latch?
Is this in reference to the USB cover?
Nope, they're there to ground the io ports
Oh okay.
It will
It has to or it won't fit properly
Will deal with the latch later first getting the board ready.
This enough paste?
About yeah.
Then try it
Normally I'd suggest spreading but* AM5 is that whack it probably makes no difference
Alright.
How is this supposed to attach?
Am I really supposed to leave the legs on? It won't attack to the board.
Air cooler, yes
Aio.
Board in, then aio, but you've put paste on, so aio then board in
There's less to get in the way with an AIO
Put the 8 pin CPU power in before the board
Hmmm gonna redo fan order on my aio first real quick.
Any tips on organizing fan cables?
Zip ties and velcro are your best friends
Zip ties cheap and good
Velcro if you feel like changing 100 things instead of only once
Cable ties also nice from new stuff in boxes
The way I am currently routing it from the start.
That a good way to keep the start organized?
Gosh I hate these cables.....
Preach brother
How's this look?
Coming along nicely
Two sets of 3xARGB and fan headers.
Do I mount my board before putting the cooler on or?
Also for some reason I only have 2 mounting screws for my mobo....
Odd but really that's fine
Most cases give you one guide peg, and put the screws on opposite corners
Opposite corners on the top or top left and bottom right?
Like top left/bottom right or top right/bottom left
Probably top right now that I think about it, just in case you need to pull the 24 pin
Found a 3rd screw
Pick another corner then
Those darn legs on the io cover is getting in the way.
Is there any use for those? If not I am yanking them
Yes they keep the devices from contacting the case when you plug them in, potentially preventing a short. It's rare but it happens.
I like to set the case in at an angle and line up the top row on the IO plate first, then set it onto the guide peg


