#building-and-recc-chat

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low path
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My CPU didn’t come with cpu paste

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Did I do this correctly

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Uh is that the sticker the heat sink

weary galleon
low path
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Bc my Mobo comes with heat sink

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Also I think I messed up

low path
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I’m watching a yt tutorial but this screw isn’t coming off

weary galleon
low path
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For my SSD

weary galleon
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I'd refer to the motherboard manual

gentle pollen
low path
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Idk it came out with the heat sink

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Bro these SSD heat sinks are so confusing

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So they gave me 2 SSD screws in bags but my mobo had them on the heart sinks already?

gentle pollen
low path
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In Newegg

fossil cedar
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Btw looks like they're gonna be out in late January

limber oyster
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Got my itx to boot

vague oracle
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Mmm @cyan ravine

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Issa building time

low path
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Gatta love when my PSU doesn’t work with my case

crimson zinc
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MrBeast is running a “request a gift” promo

I’m taking my chances

cyan ravine
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Flip it upside down

crimson zinc
vague oracle
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LMAO my dad got the Unifan Galahad II

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This is beautiful

low path
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Anyone have a idea where these 3 go

vague oracle
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GODDAMNIT

crimson zinc
low path
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Oh ig there just rgb

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Both of them

limber oyster
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Ik the feeling

low path
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Oh my

limber oyster
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Yeah

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And a sff/sfx psu is too small to screw into the PSU shroud

open jungle
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Wahoo

vague oracle
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And it’s done

low path
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Same

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Except my RGB won’t work on my case

minor garnet
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Hi I upgraded my GPU and everytime I play the finals or iracing the game randomly drops to 10 FPS from 200 and my mouse cursor starts lagging around when I move it for like a minute and then it goes back to normal? Help? Xmp is disabled tried ddu multiple times no luck. Even uninstalled geforce nothing working.

open jungle
leaden mauve
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Baller

jolly riverBOT
minor garnet
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tried reseating gpu 10x

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tried disabling xmp no luck

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treid re plugging all psu cables no luck

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triend underclocking gpu no luck

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tried bios update no luck

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dried using another dp cable no luck

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tried reinstalling game no luck

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no lucj

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k

flint sapphire
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Eh it probably isn’t but who knows

minor garnet
flint sapphire
minor garnet
minor garnet
cursive wharf
# minor garnet Bad PSU u think randomly dropped to 90w and temp went fro 70 to 50 for couple se...

Nigh impossible for a bad PSU to cause frame stutters. Power issues stemming from the PSU means instant shut off usually.

Might kinda be worth checking to see if it's CPU or GPU causing a framespike using PresentMon. Tho that only barely helps diagnosing the issue. For example there can be lag spikes at the DX/Vulkan/OpenGL/etc API layer where it's still doing CPU work. Could also have CPU lag spikes from the game.
PresentMon: https://github.com/GameTechDev/PresentMon
PM setup: https://www.techspot.com/article/2723-intel-presentmon

Due to being rather hard to find what specific software bug is happening, your best bet is to likely reinstall Windows using the Media Creation Tool. Tho you can check to see if it's just a corrupted Windows install. Make sure that RAM is set to default JEDEC speeds (not XMP) and run SFC /scannow && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth && DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth && SFC /scannow in admin CMD.

primal linden
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Anybody know a psu under $100 for a RX 6800

mossy venture
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with tiktok, rm750e or seasonic focus gx 850

primal linden
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Ty

crimson zinc
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What did I do

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As soon as I get into D2, it hits this

potent portal
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That's your nvidia driver that it's naming as the cause.
Either the driver or the video memory is bad.

crimson zinc
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it’s probably cuz I forgot to install drivers when I reset this pc

crimson zinc
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I should be able to fix by just installing recent drivers right

potent portal
crimson zinc
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Yes

potent portal
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Then probably not RAM because it's a little more, well, random

crimson zinc
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You could say it’s a little more… ram-dom

crimson zinc
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Update, my pc is dying
Installed new drivers, game was fine, started losing frames badly
Game died, now I’m getting 16 frames in the tower in d2

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90+ in menu

serene onyx
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Hey guys

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I just built a pc

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AND it says cpu fan error

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But the cpu fan is spinning

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AND it's working

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Do I just ignore the error?

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@mossy venture

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@potent portal

potent portal
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Something needs to be plugged into the CPU fan header and it'll go away

serene onyx
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Oh ok

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Alright

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Well it is?

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Ohhh it's cause I think I plugged it into cpu fan header 2

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Ight

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I got it

potent portal
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I'd be a little more concerned about the GPU not having uefi enabled, that could be just a bios update needed but that typically happens on very old GPUs (nvidia 600 and older)

serene onyx
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Ok it works

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Do I press f1?

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The error is gone

potent portal
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Hopefully the uefi error goes away on its own or with a bios update

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Otherwise you won't be able to use resizable bar

serene onyx
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Wdym

potent portal
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Rebar is basically free performance on modern systems

serene onyx
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Oh

potent portal
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It's enabled by default a lot of the time for things that support it

serene onyx
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Makes sense

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OK so

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This pc can't run w11

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Damn

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I gotta get w10

potent portal
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Update your bios

serene onyx
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How so

potent portal
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Then it'll have tpm and such enabled by default so it'll pass the compatibility check

serene onyx
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How do I do it, I don't have another laptop or pc on hand

potent portal
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You just need to extract the bios update to a USB drive somehow, a phone works even with the adapter

serene onyx
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Hm

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And if I have a laptop

potent portal
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Even better

serene onyx
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I just do it using the USB right

potent portal
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Yep, then once it's on the drive you go into the bios and select the update file

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Easy peasy

serene onyx
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Bet

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Ok so

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I have the files and stuff on the usb

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Is there a specific way they have to be in the us

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Usb?

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@potent portal

primal linden
potent portal
serene onyx
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I think I got

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It

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It's saying this tho

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DO I ignore?

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@potent portal

potent portal
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Yeah you don't have anything to back up lol

serene onyx
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Ur right

potent portal
serene onyx
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It's saying that there is no bios update on the usb?

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I put the 2 files onto the usb

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Do I delete the renamer?

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Or what

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Or should it automatically work

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This is weird

potent portal
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Doesn't matter

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When you go to select the bios file in the flash menu you'll just pick that second file

serene onyx
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I did

potent portal
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You can delete them both after

serene onyx
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BUT it's not a proper bios

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It keeps saying "file selected is not a bios"

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But I downloaded the bios update from the site

potent portal
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What's the file extension

serene onyx
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.cap

potent portal
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That should be right

serene onyx
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Hm

potent portal
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Is it the exact match to your motherboard model? WiFi and non WiFi models for example use different versions.

serene onyx
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Alright

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I'll try that

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Ok I think I found the right one

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How do I make a w11 USB on a chrome book.

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I alr had the w11 thing ready

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But I had to delete it all to make the bios usb

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Kms

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@potent portal

serene onyx
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What's a good GPU to go with a i5-2400

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😭

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Can anything over a rx 570 work with it

mossy venture
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The i5-3470 limits even a 1030 gddr5 at times

serene onyx
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Oh lord

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So what can I upgrade too

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To make it better

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Or will I have to get a better cpu

mossy venture
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Better cpu 100%

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I would do used 10th gen and newer i5s, 8th gen and newer i7s, 3600 and above, and 5000 series (and better ofc, just depends on what you want to spend)

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For new, 12100f, 5600, 7600, 12600k/13600k etc

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And matching mobo/ram

hollow crag
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WHY DOES MY PC KEEP RESTARTING IN GAMES!!!
randomlyyy

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i tried undervolting i tried this i tried that

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THIS THING BRANd new

serene onyx
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Bro

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The pc doesn't meet the requirements for w11

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😐

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I update bios and everything

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AND it still syas

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Doesn't meet the requirements

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THE MOBO SAYS W11 READY

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😭😭

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Help 😭

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@mossy venture can u help

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😔

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@potent portal

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I need help guys

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Why does it keep doing this 😭

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Guys.

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🧍🏽‍♂️

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This is making me angry

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@obsidian wigeon

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Help

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It keeps doing the same thing

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I even turned on secure boot

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My pc meets all the requirements listed on the windows website

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I did this youtube video thing and it worked

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But I wanna make sure it's not gonna mess up anything before I press continue

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Guys ☹️

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Will this mess up anything on the pc in the future?

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@mossy venture what do u think?

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Fawk it

mossy venture
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Sorry I just saw this

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I'm very out of it and don't think I understand what is going on

plucky timber
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Ping fest

potent portal
crimson zinc
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Judge Newegg’s prebuilt enthusiast build

potent portal
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The AIO is trash, they've had recall after recall over that pump in that series.
ITX board in a 5000X is definitely a decision.
I hope they tested that 6400 memory thoroughly with synced UCLK.

crimson zinc
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Mainstream build

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And beginner

potent portal
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1700 for a 7800X3D and 3070 hurts me deeply

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They're really pushing those RMx units aren't they

plucky timber
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What are these lists

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💀

crimson zinc
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Turns out

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They are hot garbage

cyan ravine
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I bet they could hire any of the few regulars here and those lists would look 1000x better regularly

plucky timber
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This just shows the lack of research with most of the pc space

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people just throw together parts

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without seeing if it's actually good value

potent portal
plucky timber
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lol

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meanwhile the average LTT pc lists:

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here's something stupid

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are there any psus that can power 2 systems?

potent portal
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Yes

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All you need that's extra is a 24 pin splitter

plucky timber
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is it safe tho

potent portal
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Sure

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Not a lot goes through that 24 pin, the majority of the current is in the EPS cables

cyan ravine
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1600w units can definitely do dual system

potent portal
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Yep they'll have all the extra cables you need

plucky timber
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I am having X99 itch

cyan ravine
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iirc some come with two mobo output

plucky timber
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ahhhh I don't need X99

crimson zinc
plucky timber
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I mean that's not hard

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Just mod a roomba

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get a nuc motherboard

crimson zinc
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If someone ever made me a build inside a Roomba
I’d use that for life

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Idc what games come out
I’ll use that till I die

plucky timber
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do you want the roomba functions

crimson zinc
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No
Must be inanimate

plucky timber
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ok

crimson zinc
plucky timber
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that's easy then

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literally just put a nuc inside a roomba

crimson zinc
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But make it able to play modern games

potent portal
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NUC can do that

crimson zinc
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Let me be able to play d2 on max

plucky timber
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can't you run egpus on a nuc?

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duct tape a sfx psu and a 4090 on top

crimson zinc
potent portal
plucky timber
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oh they do?

cyan ravine
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minisforum....

potent portal
plucky timber
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damn

potent portal
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That's the NUC 13 extreme

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Full x16 gen 5 slot

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And it fits in a shoebox

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And no that's not a laptop 13900k either, that's the full fat desktop model

plucky timber
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what's this pcpp connection authentication thing

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It's getting annoying

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doesn't work on my phone for some reason

cyan ravine
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vpn authentication

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been there a while

potent portal
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The captcha? It comes up if there's either sus activity from your (shared, public) IP or if you do things too fast

plucky timber
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it gets stuck in a loop if i go on my data

potent portal
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Someone on your carrier probably triggered the cloudflare protections

plucky timber
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that's annoying

potent portal
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Keeps people from DDoS'ing sites so it's a necessary evil

crimson zinc
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Ah I knew I wasn’t awake enough
There’s a black mouse in there

plucky timber
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AHHAHA

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WHAT IS THAT SSD

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someone likes corsair too much

crimson zinc
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Idk
I clicked on something this morning

plucky timber
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newegg please

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🤮

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this value man

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and this is the entry level

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It just goes to the default page for me

cyan ravine
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isn't this the same list I fixed the other day

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with something way better

crimson zinc
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God I can’t think

plucky timber
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ok i think my newegg is just broken

cyan ravine
crimson zinc
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I shared the wrong build

cyan ravine
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lol

crimson zinc
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I have a “crap” ton of lists in my Newegg
I’m gonna sift through them then send the build I meant to

plucky timber
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Are there any platforms where I can get cheap high core count cpus that's newer than X99?

potent portal
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Define high core count

crimson zinc
plucky timber
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more than 8 cores

crimson zinc
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Did I even make this

potent portal
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AM4 does 12-16 cores

crimson zinc
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@cyan ravine am I on something

plucky timber
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hmm

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ryzen 9s are still pretty pricey tho

crimson zinc
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Who is SQUIRET

cyan ravine
crimson zinc
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Do you make builds you have no idea why or when you made them for

cyan ravine
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yes

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I get messages like 2 or 3 weeks after some people build theirs

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and their like "thanks" and I'm thinking "who the hell are you"

crimson zinc
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I’ve decided that I’m gonna start my Newegg and pcpp build lists over

New year new pc mental issues

plucky timber
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There's this one guy who was dming me for help... in a period while i was inactive on newegg

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I was so confused

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apparently he was dming everyone

potent portal
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I'd say I've done about 69 lists that I don't remember who or why they were for

plucky timber
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and every single time i just told him to ask on the server

crimson zinc
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Probably one for me before my Autism did a deep dive into pc learning

plucky timber
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because I'm not the best person to help with his problem

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I don't think he understood that it's just rude to just dm everyone

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  • it's not the most effective way to get help
crimson zinc
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Multiple peoples inputs ensure product bias doesn’t completely take over

cyan ravine
plucky timber
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brand bias in particular

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"It's corsair surely it's good???"

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"Asus is a big brand they don't make anything bad"

potent portal
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I'll shill logitech and AMD processors and I'm not ashamed to admit it lol

cyan ravine
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and if going only through newegg is the choice here then I wouldn't do only newegg for $1000 difference lol

crimson zinc
potent portal
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Which is why it's good for other people to see what I put in to make sure it's not a bad suggestion

plucky timber
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my case selections are biased towards phanteks and fractal so I'm guilty too

crimson zinc
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But everyone I’ve talked to hates it and everything about it

plucky timber
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they made good gpus

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psus are hit or miss

crimson zinc
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Lemme find my first pc build

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Hold

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This is what I was working with 3 years ago

plucky timber
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wtf

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32GB ram

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for a 960 build?

crimson zinc
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This was all free

plucky timber
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lol were you playing modded games?

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oh

crimson zinc
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Like donated parts from friends

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One accidentally bought the wrong ddr of ram

plucky timber
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well I guess the more odd part is the fact that it's 2 2x8GB kits instead of one 2x16GB kit

crimson zinc
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So he just gave me it and it’s been banging away ever since

plucky timber
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I guess it's not bad for 2020

crimson zinc
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The pc I think only cost a total of $140 to build

plucky timber
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yeah that's not bad for 2020

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tho 1300X?

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eh

crimson zinc
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Everything was donated or got off fb marketplace

plucky timber
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kinda mid

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then again you could probably go up to a zen 2

crimson zinc
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I soon upgraded to a ryzen 5 4500
And a 1080

plucky timber
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yeah that's the beauty of having older AM4

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a lot of upgrade headroom

crimson zinc
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I don’t know what I’ve taken out or replaced since I made that list

potent portal
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This was this week. No one should be buying a TR 3990X today. Especially not with 2 channels of DDR5.

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And I don't even think that air cooler will fit

plucky timber
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yeah that's AM4/115X/1200

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and ON A THREADRIPPER

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that thing will not cool a threadripper

potent portal
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That would barely cool a 12400

plucky timber
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I've seen better coolers at the same price

potent portal
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I've seen better everything at the same price

manic mango
lyric thistle
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Cool

leaden mauve
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what is it calculating

cyan ravine
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your death

potent portal
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It's calculating the question of course

cyan ravine
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"should we kill far?" the complex answer that still leads to "yes"

potent portal
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Should we though? He'll die soon anyway in a cosmic sense

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We all will

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We're just blips

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It's 5AM and I've had 3 hours of sleep

cyan ravine
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cosmic radiation from all his trash x79?

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I'd believe it

potent portal
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I wouldn't doubt it either

cyan ravine
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the level of jank

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that comes from that old stuff

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like us discovering microplastics decades later after the damage is done

potent portal
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Just like the asbestos and lead poisoned generations before us

cyan ravine
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we always knew something was wrong

lethal tapir
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Yeah except we always knew that asbestos causes lung problems since at least the Romans

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And lead too come to think

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People are just dumb and fragile

potent portal
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"Let's put lead in the paint, which has the side effect of making it taste sweet, what could go wrong"

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Asbestos also happens to be a really decent extinguishing agent, so let's aerosolize it

analog hearth
severe hull
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Good morning all !

I purchased a pc for my youngest. It has an integrated GPU . I am upgrading my oldest son's pc for Christmas so I will be taking his old GPU 1650 and hoping I can put it in my youngest pc ! Possible ?

mossy venture
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Theyre really just causing their own problems

mossy venture
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Just make sure you

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?ddu

jolly riverBOT
mossy venture
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For both pcs when you swap gpus

severe hull
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Just saved the link

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Thank you bacca ! All my tik tok orders came in thanks again

mossy venture
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Almost gaurabteed it'll work since 1650 is a 75w gpu

severe hull
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So that's actually next for my oldest pc so I will have a spare

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If I'm looking at it right its a 650

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But probably a cheap one

stark hedge
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Hello got a question would a i7-11700F go perfectly well with my 4080?

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im ready if i need to get a better cpu

cyan ravine
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Unless you're at 4k no, you'd be leaving performance on the table with an 11700

mossy venture
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Likely a lot of it

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No cpu on that platform is good enough for an xtx/4080/4090

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Maybe an oced 10900k would be alright with a 4080/xtx at 1440p, im not completely sure

burnt stratus
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i'd say grab some 12th gen chip

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or 13th gen i5 13600k i think is quite good for the price..?

mossy venture
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Oh no I wouldn't go from an 11700 to a 10900k

low path
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thinking about building a pc for my brother budget 1k

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maybe less if possible, rgb doesnt matter

crimson zinc
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@low path any guidelines for it?
Peripherals needed, cpu preference, etc etc

low path
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only gaming

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he mainly plays fps games, some anime games KEK

crimson zinc
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I’m assuming you already have a monitor/mouse/etc for him?

mossy venture
low path
mossy venture
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5600, b550m pro se, 32gb ddr4 possibly, 670p mp33 or mp34, or whatever other decent 1tb ssd, rm750e

burnt stratus
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none

mossy venture
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Case whatever with a mesh front

burnt stratus
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tiktok shop is not a good place to buy stuff i dont think

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is it?

mossy venture
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Anything I recommend on it is shipped and sold by newegg.

burnt stratus
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yeah

mossy venture
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It's perfectly fine as long as it is

burnt stratus
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Ohhhhhhhh

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makes sense

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they have really good discounts on tiktok shop actually

mossy venture
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Mhm

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Could also do b760 pg sonic wifi with an lga 1700 chip or a b650

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With an am5 chip

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12600kf is cheap

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And better than 5600

low path
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on tiktok shop? or just change it in general

mossy venture
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Could also do 6600 off tiktok

mossy venture
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There's also other options those were just off the top of my head

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If you did 6600, you can do this for case+ psu

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Or 6600xt/6650xt

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6700 I'd spend the extra for better case/psu

low path
mossy venture
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Believe an exhaust, not sure about otherwise.

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Airflow wise it's ass, but for $50 it's a case and a power supply

low path
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ill prolly stick with that other case bc he plays fps games like cod so airflow is needed

mossy venture
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Ah alr

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There's also a lot of case options on tiktok

low path
mossy venture
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Just look around, if you see one you like feel free to ask me

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Imo b760 pg sonic wifi with 12600kf and a cheap tower cooler is the beat choice

low path
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deep cool ak400 zero work?

mossy venture
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That, 214xt, ag200, basically anything

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Could spend some extra for a dual tower, $10 extra or so

low path
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which one?

mossy venture
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Literally any dual tower from thermalright lol

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I normally go for cheapest that isn't part of the silver soul line

low path
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got one ak620

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63$

mossy venture
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5600 is still a solid choice though, it should be like $20 cheaper than the 12600kf, comes with a cooler, and cheaper mobo options

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Ak620 is great but $63 is a bit much

low path
mossy venture
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Phantom spirit is just as good for $35

low path
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oo true

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i cant find the one for 35$

low path
weary galleon
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It's wild what thermalright has done in the past year or two

mossy venture
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It really is, theyre dominating the cooler space except for high high end

low path
weary galleon
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$35 dual tower cooler with RGB, 7(?) heatpipes, and black colored top surfaces
*And decent fans

mossy venture
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And ssd

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Also 12600kf shows $123 for me

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Not 140

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Try a diff account

low path
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Shows 135 still for me

manic cloak
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How does the 7800xt like get the weirdest stats during benchmarks?

mossy venture
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Hm

manic cloak
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Like I see it beat the 6950xt or even 3090, but when it plays some games it’s under the 6950xt and runs way hotter

mossy venture
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Just different architecture

manic cloak
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Ah

low path
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Kf^

mossy venture
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If k is cheaper go for it

low path
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cheaper than the 5600 u mean or

low path
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theres this prebuilt for 750

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nvm ill jst build him one

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the 5600 is 116 on tiktok

mossy venture
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Less upgradability, but easier

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Lenovo is pretty good pre built wise

low path
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its out of stock gg

mossy venture
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They don't use proprietary parts

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Ripp

low path
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ill prolyl go with a custom one bc upgradeable

mossy venture
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Ye

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For gpu, you can do anything from 6600xt-7800xt for $1000 and under

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Its your choice on what exactly, could even do a used 3080/6800xt or better

low path
#

ye i might buy a used nvidia card or amd card from hardware swap jsut to save some money maybe but idk

mossy venture
#

Ye that'd be a good idea

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6800xt/3080 for $325-375 would be great

low path
#

what do u recommd for that build u gave me? anything i should change if i get a 3080

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budget is 1k

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in total for the pc build

mossy venture
#

Yes 100%

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6800, 6800xt, 6900xt, 6950xt, 3080/12gb/ti/3090, anything along those lines

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Though def get rm750e from tiktok then, or seasonic 850

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Gives you the ability to run basically any gpu you want for both of them

low path
#

bet

potent portal
#

Noctua noise/performance for $40, insane

south cliff
#

What are some really good 360mm aios I’m going to get one for Christmas

manic cloak
#

hmm

potent portal
#

For LGA1700, LT720 or LS720

manic cloak
#

I mean Frozen Notte is good too

#

considering it's just a 12600k

potent portal
#

Yes but I've seen a greater than normal number of people complaining about pump failure on those so I don't trust them

manic cloak
#

oh yike

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yikes

#

btw B760 Sonic or z690 Velocita for a mobo?

south cliff
#

Is the ls720 se good?

manic cloak
manic cloak
potent portal
#

Do you plan to overclock the processor

south cliff
#

No

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It also looks good

manic cloak
#

uhhh he was asking me lmao but hit or miss on that tbh.

south cliff
#

And 87.99

potent portal
#

If you might in the future then a Z board now would save you changing it later

manic cloak
#

let's say probably

#

alr

potent portal
#

Talking to skyveha

#

He was asking about which motherboard to choose

south cliff
#

Oh my bad

potent portal
#

I should use the pings to avoid confusion lol

potent portal
south cliff
#

Is there a rgb version of the lt720?

potent portal
#

No

#

Which is sad because that infinity block looks nice

south cliff
#

Yeah

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I like it

potent portal
#

But it's easy to swap fans

south cliff
#

Does the se have the same performance as the lt720?

potent portal
#

Yes, the only differences are cosmetic

south cliff
#

Then I might just get the se my kraken x73 did me good

mossy venture
south cliff
#

But I have had a cat puke on it and spilled wax on it

south cliff
#

That’s what I have right now

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They are loud

manic cloak
#

hmm

#

what's the performance difference between 7700xt, 6800, 6800xt and 7800xt?

potent portal
#

Keeping in mind these do include overclocked results so there's a few percent variance in the results

manic cloak
potent portal
#

Which is why it's a rough comparison

manic cloak
#

true

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plus you gotta include driver updates and etc

#

but i'm surprised 7700xt is worse than the 6800

manic cloak
potent portal
#

Slightly more reliable data

manic cloak
#

lowest prices on market btw

#

it's 379.99 6800 vs 419.99 7700xt atm

potent portal
#

6800 XT and 7800 XT are nearly identical, and so are the 7700 XT and 6800. The 7700 XT has newer features like hardware AV1 encoding but otherwise isn't worth the increase in price.

manic cloak
#

alright

manic cloak
#

Uhh…

#

Do I retire my razer kraken tournament edition for this 💀

#

Although I hate razer so much, it’s literally my mouse n headset that’s razer, plus my headset has a good mic

plucky timber
#

I mean

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usually I'd say they're bad value

#

but at $23.99

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that's not bad tbh

manic cloak
#

26$ after coupon

#

Cause of tax and et

minor garnet
cyan ravine
lyric thistle
analog hearth
mossy venture
upper condor
#

Hey was helping my friend build a PC yesterday(and going back today) to fix a few issues. We turned it on and fans turned on, rgb etc etc but the GPU wasn't moving at all and the MOBO had none of the debug lights on.

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I'll send the parts list real quick

potent portal
#

How long did you let it sit

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It can take 5-10 minutes to do the first boot, longer with more memory

upper condor
#

That's what I said but I had to get going. Everything seemed fine besides no RGB or fans on the GPU

#

I'm heading over in a few but just wanted some ideas for before then

lethal tapir
#

Loose power connector? Loose ram?

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Wrong ram slots?

upper condor
#

I like triple checked all those and I think they're good but you never know

potent portal
#

Also update the bios using flashback if you haven't yet

lethal tapir
#

Updated bios yaaaaa

upper condor
#

Ah true good idea!

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And the last thing was for the AIO; does it matter if the tube is like this or should I put it other way around? Was kinda a rushed job

potent portal
#

I think on those boards you just rename the update file to MSI.ROM

#

Tubes don't matter much

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As long as it's not kinked

upper condor
#

Alright I figured just looks a little awkward

#

Those huge cases with the metal panels in the back for cable management are so nice

pseudo pollen
chilly pilot
#

Can someone help me, I’m having trouble with my pc. It has power but not turning on.

potent portal
#

Is this a new build or just a new problem

subtle halo
pseudo pollen
#

Brand new tho

chilly pilot
#

New problem, was running good about a week ago. I opened the back and started messing with some wires to put in a new HDD in two days ago, tried to game yesterday and it won’t turn on.

potent portal
#

Probably a loose cable somewhere then

#

You can start unplugging things one by one to find the culprit

subtle halo
chilly pilot
#

Made shire I did that before started to ask for help

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Took all the wires out and put them back in

#

I hit the bios button and a red light turns on

potent portal
#

I'd try with nothing except the 24 pin, CPU power, and GPU power plugged in

#

If you can get into bios then it's a loose/bad cable, if not then it's a deeper issue

chilly pilot
#

Could it be the motherboard?

lethal tapir
#

Can you smell burnt plastic

chilly pilot
#

No

potent portal
#

The next thing to try with only the minimum power connections would be a cmos clear

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?cmos

jolly riverBOT
lethal tapir
#

Pop the battery yaya

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Is one of the cables kinked?

chilly pilot
#

No

lethal tapir
#

It won't even post to bios?

chilly pilot
#

Nope

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Won’t turn on

lethal tapir
#

Could be the power supply

#

Worked fine for a while and then one cheap component pops? -this is conjecture

chilly pilot
#

It’s a 650w 80+ gold

potent portal
#

That means literally nothing as far as quality, that's just an efficiency rating

lethal tapir
#

Who made it

potent portal
#

There's gold rated units that explode under load, as in POP and smoke

chilly pilot
#

Segotep

#

Full modular

potent portal
#

It's at least C tier then, so that's good

lethal tapir
#

I guess that does leave the mobo

potent portal
#

How is the cmos clearing going

manic cloak
chilly pilot
#

I took out the battery out of my mother board but it is amd, need to look at the instructions on manual

mossy venture
#

?cmos

jolly riverBOT
mossy venture
#

Oh was already done, mb

potent portal
chilly pilot
#

Sorry, read that when I sent my last message

#

Didn’t work

#

I’m gonna try taking it all apart and putting it back together again

manic cloak
#

Anything good from this list

#

Btw my own case can’t support 360mm

lethal tapir
#

The crucial 1tb ssd but I bet you could get it new for that price too

burnt stratus
#

those cases seem good?

#

o11 for $60

chilly pilot
#

Didn’t work

#

If I have an rgb mouse that turns on if you click one of the buttons could that fry the mother board?

#

And or psu?

burnt stratus
#

no

#

i dont think so

#

it could fry the mouse i guess

chilly pilot
#

I wonder why my pc won’t turn on then

subtle halo
#

Computer Hardware Chart

use browser to zoom in. or plugins maybe.. very nice

burnt stratus
#

OMG

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PINNED MESSAGE

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!!!!!

pseudo pollen
#

Older list it seems, only goes to ddr3

leaden mauve
#

thats an extremely old list

#

I remember seeing that in 2016

subtle halo
#

its fine maybe someday it will get updated..

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the pheripiral is nice touch there

leaden mauve
#

yea its still a nice reference though iirc some stuff on there was blatantly wrong... though that mightve been another old list i had saved

#

yea that list is fine

#

"future" lmao

subtle halo
#

xD yeah

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this is from 2016 sadly someday we get 2024

#

if someone here is a good collector

leaden mauve
#

no thats from before 2009

subtle halo
#

and willing to take pictures

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xD

#

we need ddr4 to ddr5 update

subtle halo
leaden mauve
#

of ddr3....

subtle halo
#

i wonder how this thing not melting

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xD

#

it looks like made out of plastiic

potent portal
#

Socket 7... back in the day that AMD and Intel used the same socket.

leaden mauve
chilly pilot
#

@potent portal and the others who helped me to try and fix my problems with my pc, it was a bad psu, thankyou and I appreciate all of your help

subtle halo
#

nice

low path
dusky hearth
low path
#

Building it for my brother

pseudo pollen
cyan ravine
#
#

Other than that the list is basically point for point what I'd do

#

So it's a good list

#

Oh maybe change case again cos it's no longer 35$

#

But it does go on sale pretty cheap if you wait

low path
#

yea im not ordering the parts till next week ish

#

is that mobo micro?

cyan ravine
#

the one you linked is yes

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and is fine

#

any normal pc doesn't really require full atx anymore

low path
#

is that a similar mobo that isnt micro

cyan ravine
#

if you want cheap

#

cheap and full atx don't really go hand in hand

#

it's cheaper to just go with an matx case

low path
#

is there a board thats like 100$ that isnt micro?

cyan ravine
#

why do you need a non micro board

low path
#

You said that’s a cheap board isn’t it?

cyan ravine
#

?

#

there are atx boards but like

#

the point being you will end up coming closer and closer to a higher tier with every dollar at the low end

#

just get matx

#

it's easier

potent portal
#

"Cheap" does not equal "bad"
Micro boards have all the same features, minus extra PCIe slots and possibly minus one M.2

plucky timber
#

matx is just a form factor

#

I actually prefer matx over itx

#

Cost effective for smaller builds

low path
vivid copper
low path
vivid copper
# low path It’s for my brother around 700

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6sf6N6 That would be my take..unless you want to stick with bottom of the barrel parts to try to squeeze in a better GPU. That board just went out of stock. But MSI's own website has it for $99 bucks still. And i personally wouldn't downgrade to any lesser boards to save 10 or 20 bucks as the VRMs and upgradability of that board will trump any mATX sub 100.

low path
#

Why the 6650xt?

#

Rather get the 6700xf

vivid copper
# low path Why the 6650xt?

i was keeping you under $700, that's why i asked you what the budget was....but yeah you can substitute for a 6700xt if that's what you want....so if you feel $60 is worth about 20 or so more frames...go for it....

mossy venture
#

Differences in frames doesn't really make sense

#

It's about a 20-25% difference

#

In some games that can be 60 fps, in others that might be 10

#

B550 a pro is nice but also doesn't have wifi, the ds3h isn't the best mobo but it's perfectly fine for a 5600

vivid copper
#

that's why it's an average...not one specific game....

mossy venture
#

And can easily handle an upgrade to the 5800x3d

mossy venture
#

As a general performance difference that graph is good

vivid copper
#

i disagree a set percentage is very vague...saying a GPU is X% amount of better than another is a slippery slope....that's why we have plenty of reviewers and benchamarks....

#

that's why we don't take sites like userbenchmark serious

mossy venture
#

We don't take ubm seriously because it bases its performance comparisons on things beyond just performance

#

Passmark gpu/cpu comparison is a great tool, though not so much for comparing amd to nvidia

#

A % makes sense because its a % more performance in a game. Like 6700xt on average will get 20-25% more fps than the 6650xt

vivid copper
#

we can agree to disagree, i just have a different take.... 20% - 25% percent sounds cool on paper but going from 110 to 130 in frames is not a game changing experience as a normal everyday user will not notice the difference....so the percentage makes it sound more dramatic than what it really is...welcome to marketing 101.....

mossy venture
#

That's true, but it also isn't just fps it's being able to turn graphics settings higher at same fps

#

Also extra vram will let the 6700xt keep up a bit longer

low path
vivid copper
low path
#

bet

mossy venture
low path
novel parcel
#

My fan has 3 pin and molex. Can I just connect 3 pin to 4 pin on motherboard and leave the molex hanging off

left urchin
#

How does this look im buildin a PC for my buddy

vivid copper
# left urchin

For a build in 2023/2024 Those parts at those prices don't make any sense at all.....2060 super for 430? I think not...lol.....

#

What your budget my guy?

left urchin
#

Yea bc i have the RX 6600 and its basically the same its like 250 new

#

About 1500

vivid copper
#

we can do a million times better for 1.5K

left urchin
#

Lol hopefully

vivid copper
#

any preferences..do they need wifi, rgb?

#

and are they just gaming?

left urchin
#

Needs wifi and no AMD

#

Yea pretty much

#

It can be basic for now so no RGB

vivid copper
#

why no AMD......or do i even want to know?

left urchin
#

I stay away from AMD in my experience ive had 3 cards fail on me and they run so hot

vivid copper
#

well i meant more so for the CPU....

#

i should've been more specific

left urchin
#

Ah well i stay with intel jus bc its normally easier to build off them motherboard wise

#

Lol ur good

#

And i don't want to deal with pins on a CPU

#

And the new one without the pins are hella expensive

vivid copper
#

welp you're in luck AMD doesn't have pins on the CPU anymore....both platforms are now LGA sockets

left urchin
#

Yea but the lga ones be expensive lol a i5 12th gen should be enough for most uses

vivid copper
#

they're about the same cost wise...an B650 board and a 7600x is cheaper and peforms better than what you had in your Amazon cart by miles but we'll do Intel if that's what you're comfortable with

#

but i would advise you do some research and catch up to where things are right now...the market and prices have changed

left urchin
#

Well i do im jus trynna build a near copy of my build for my buddy bc ik mines good for now except the GPU is a little low

#

But for the most part its always upgradeable in the future

vivid copper
left urchin
#

Thanks my man🫡

vivid copper
#

They specifically stated they weren't interested in an AMD GPU

pseudo pollen
#

I hate it when people do that

#

I get why, but why

vivid copper
#

and if they aren't interested in an AMD and not the 4070 they'd have to find a used 3080ti or higher to get the same relative performance....

pseudo pollen
#

4070=3080

#

with 2gb more vram

vivid copper
#

it's better than a 3080 at 1080p

pseudo pollen
vivid copper
#

if we wasn't including a monitor the 70ti is the no brainer....but i see yall subscribe to the min-max build philosophy around here...lol....

mossy venture
mossy venture
#

Well I would do 7800xt or 7900xt, but if you refuse to go amd there you go

quaint ledge
#

worth $1800?

mossy venture
mossy venture
#

If you're exclusively looking for a pre built, I dont think you could do better

quaint ledge
#

alright

mossy venture
#

You get a bit worse gpu, worse cpu, for basically the same price

quaint ledge
#

whens the 4070 ti super release?

mossy venture
#

It likely won't be a thing

#

4070 super and 4080 super, possibly 4080 ti

#

Maybe 4060 super but I doubt it

#

For those, I think we're looking at a January launch but im not certain on that

vivid copper
quaint ledge
#

do u think 4070 price will go down

#

or 4070 ti price

#

once these drop

vivid copper
#

i think the 4070 msrp stays the same as the super will probably be priced in between the current 4070 and 70ti...i think the 70ti super replaces the 70 ti and those get cheaper or discontinued

#

but those are my guesses....we'll find out in a couple of weeks i guess...best advise is if you are dead azz serious on getting one of those cards you might want to wait

quaint ledge
#

discontinued so that means no more driver updates?

vivid copper
#

no it just means they won't be making new ones

quaint ledge
#

Oh

#

okay

potent portal
# vivid copper

This doesn't make a lot of sense, and it even has an error in the "article" where it says 7 dates and lists 8.

vivid copper
#

it says 7 embargo's....the announcement doesn't count as an embargo

#

not sure what else wouldn't make sense

strong raft
#

Fal might've missed how there's 2 on Jan 8th. What's up Meezy.

vivid copper
#

@strong raft What up!?

potent portal
strong raft
#

70 Ti Super kind of is a bit laughable of a name, perhaps it's just me.

vivid copper
#

I'm pretty sure reviewers will start getting these soon...might be getting them already....

#

70ti super duper extreme max ultimate tournament edition

potent portal
#

Reviewers get them about 3 days to a week before launch

gentle pollen
#

My ram finally arrived!

#

First kit I ordered was deemed undeliverabler by sender and this kit got marked as delivery attempted right as I noticed the Amazon car was leaving and chased after it.

#

Going to buy a USB stick then upgrade.

south cliff
left urchin
mossy venture
left urchin
#

Yea thats why im waitin lol

mossy venture
#

But if you know they're worse than amd gpus, why-

left urchin
#

Bc im waitin for them to get better

mossy venture
#

I'm not going to nvm

gentle pollen
#

Where do I install windows ISO?

vivid copper
#

an iso file is basically like having a disk without having a physical disk..you have to mount it and open it on already running OS

#

or using command prompt

gentle pollen
#

Could someone guide me on what to install on my USB stick for fresh install of windows on new pc?

vivid copper
# gentle pollen Could someone guide me on what to install on my USB stick for fresh install of w...

Click on the link i just gave you, but it must be done on another PC with windows....the second option says "create windows 11 installation media" you download the tool insert the USB and it will format the drive and will do everything for you........if you need more detailed instructions watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK7n0dWx_Fs

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gentle pollen
#

Thank you.

#

Should I flash bios? X670-P mobo from MSI.

#

7950x3D is the cpu, is bios flash as easy as just pressing the bios flash button once mobo has internet access and power?

vivid copper
#

I personally update the bios to the latest version every time i do a new build....considering the agesa updates and memory updates AM5 has received over the past year or so i'd say your best bet for stability will be using the most current bios

gentle pollen
#

Alright, how do I flash bios? Is it easy or do I gotta go through a series of USB shananigans?

vivid copper
#

there are two different ways using M-Flash in the bios or by using the bios flashback button

gentle pollen
#

The MSI board has a flash button, so what will I need to do?

vivid copper
#

Take your pick....

gentle pollen
#

Either way I need to get my pc up and running first right?

vivid copper
#

Yes, i'd advise to do the bios first before you install windows, but that is your choice....

gentle pollen
#

I already installed the media drive so....

#

Would it hurt me if I did it after?

vivid copper
#

nope you'll be fine

gentle pollen
#

Aight, windows first then haha.

vivid copper
#

don't activate windows tho until after you flash the bios

gentle pollen
#

Hopefully my board and cpu can handle 6000cl32.

gentle pollen
vivid copper
# gentle pollen Gotcha, thanks for the notice. Any particular reason?

because alot of times windows will treat a bios flash as installing new hardware....almost like you've swapped to a new motherboard, so it will prompt you to re-activate windows....and depending on your windows license this can cause issues re-activating windows using the same key

gentle pollen
#

Does the windows media install automatically format my usb drive? I kinda forgot to do that if not.

vivid copper
#

yes it will automatically format and erase everything on the drive

gentle pollen
#

okay good.

gentle pollen
#

How much thermal paste should I use?

#

I hear X is usually the preferred pattern but idk how much.

vivid copper
#

Pea sized amount in the middle of the IHS...once you tighten down your cooler it will spread the thermal paste across the IHS so no need to overdo it....what cooler do you have? I'd assume you'd have an AIO with a 7950x3D?

gentle pollen
vivid copper
cyan ravine
#

Yes it does

#

Also pea is fine on AM5, just make sure it's an actual pea

#

Not like, baby pea

gentle pollen
#

Reusing the cooler from existing build.

cyan ravine
#

Line, cross or spread for lga1700

gentle pollen
#

Would cross be better?

cyan ravine
#

Not really

#

Am5 is limited by the ihs

vivid copper
cyan ravine
#

So more paste doesn't do much for perfect contact

#

Much like an aio does basically nothing over a dual tower

#

Because of the ihs

gentle pollen
#

AM4 and AM5 use the same cooler?

cyan ravine
#

Mhm

gentle pollen
#

Okay good wanted to confirm.

gentle pollen
#

Okay am I doing something wrong? I installed M.2 Q-Latch from MSI but it won't swing on top of the drive.

#

Am I supposed to snap these legs off?

potent portal
#

no

#

If the board is in correctly then they won't be in the way

gentle pollen
gentle pollen
weary galleon
gentle pollen
#

Oh okay.

cyan ravine
#

It has to or it won't fit properly

gentle pollen
#

Will deal with the latch later first getting the board ready.

#

This enough paste?

cyan ravine
#

Idk

#

Does it look like the size of a green pea yes or no

gentle pollen
#

About yeah.

cyan ravine
#

Then try it

#

Normally I'd suggest spreading but* AM5 is that whack it probably makes no difference

gentle pollen
#

Alright.

gentle pollen
#

Am I really supposed to leave the legs on? It won't attack to the board.

potent portal
#

Just press it into the opening

#

It snaps into place

#

And the legs are fine

gentle pollen
#

Alright.

#

Attach cooler before putting board in?

potent portal
#

Air cooler, yes

gentle pollen
#

Aio.

cyan ravine
#

Board in, then aio, but you've put paste on, so aio then board in

potent portal
#

There's less to get in the way with an AIO

#

Put the 8 pin CPU power in before the board

gentle pollen
#

Hmmm gonna redo fan order on my aio first real quick.

gentle pollen
#

Any tips on organizing fan cables?

potent portal
#

Zip ties and velcro are your best friends

cyan ravine
#

Zip ties cheap and good

#

Velcro if you feel like changing 100 things instead of only once

#

Cable ties also nice from new stuff in boxes

gentle pollen
#

The way I am currently routing it from the start.

#

That a good way to keep the start organized?

gentle pollen
#

Gosh I hate these cables.....

potent portal
#

Preach brother

gentle pollen
#

Here is 3/9 fans done.

#

Batching them in sets of 3.

gentle pollen
potent portal
#

Coming along nicely

gentle pollen
#

Two sets of 3xARGB and fan headers.

#

Do I mount my board before putting the cooler on or?

#

Also for some reason I only have 2 mounting screws for my mobo....

potent portal
#

Odd but really that's fine

#

Most cases give you one guide peg, and put the screws on opposite corners

gentle pollen
#

Opposite corners on the top or top left and bottom right?

potent portal
#

Like top left/bottom right or top right/bottom left

#

Probably top right now that I think about it, just in case you need to pull the 24 pin

gentle pollen
#

Found a 3rd screw

potent portal
#

Pick another corner then

gentle pollen
#

Those darn legs on the io cover is getting in the way.

#

Is there any use for those? If not I am yanking them

potent portal
#

Yes they keep the devices from contacting the case when you plug them in, potentially preventing a short. It's rare but it happens.

gentle pollen
#

...... Dang it

#

Will try again

potent portal
#

I like to set the case in at an angle and line up the top row on the IO plate first, then set it onto the guide peg