building-and-recc-chat

[forest lava]

Just wanted to know whether it was important or not to go for a stronger CPU or a stronger GPU if your budget doesn't allow both

Another thing: 4060 Ti vs 7700 XT?

I'm not the most versed on pc stuff but I've heard a lot of people say to not go nvidia

But the 4060 ti has more vram and it's like the same price

wait no i'm trippin

I could've sworn I saw a 16gb model

[obsidian wigeon]

4060ti 16 is a joke

not faster than 3060ti at all

balancing on parts choice is heavily dependent on your budget and use case

there's no one list that always work for anything and any budget

vram count isn't be-all-end-all

nor is cpu core count

[cyan ravine]

@forest lava what's your pc budget

[forest lava]

I was thinking $1400-$1500

The cheaper I can go, the better, because I also no longer own a desk, chair, monitor, and some peripherals

[cyan ravine]

Let's knock it down a peg then

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XcbmmD

Or this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZwLFs
@forest lava

A 7800x3d would fit if you went a little over budget

Sorry, actually still a little under, I misread 1300-1400 not 1400-1500

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8MVxRK

Both would provide ample gaming experiences

[forest lava]

Alr thanks for this

I'm mostly looking for something I can use to play at high fps on higher settings

I had the misfortune of owning a 3050 and had a lot of trouble running newer and higher fidelity games well

[cyan ravine]

These both should run their appropriate monitors quite well

7800xt is also sort of where the value for money kinda stops?

We get the rare 7900 sale but not atm

Same with 4070ti

Just not the appropriate time as it's just after the november sales

[forest lava]

ah curse me for not going for a pc earlier then

Isn't it better to get a normal mobo and get a separate pcie adapter?

[cyan ravine]

Not really

Matx is fine

It's just atx with less plugs

Some mobos cheapen a bit more on top of that but, well...not really here

Both boards are ample

[forest lava]

No I meant a mobo without integrated wifi

[cyan ravine]

Oh that

Nah

If anything the integrated ones are better for cable management

They all use broadcom or intel wifi chips

Cards and mobos alike

You could get better antennas?

If you really found yourself needing it that is

It's all the same hardware though end of the day

[forest lava]

Alrighty then

I'm probably gonna end up using ethernet anyways if I can somehow work the router into my room

[cyan ravine]

Either way you'll have the option tho

Anything wifi 6 or better (ac) is typically solid for gaming anyway

[forest lava]

I already have 5tb of storage laying around (2tb nvme, 3tb hdd), so I don't need the listed ssd. What would I be able to do with an extra $52 on this part list?

[cyan ravine]

Save it tbh

Not really anything else worth upgrading

Oh

Maybe one thing

For the 7800x3d list

Change ram for flair
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bbJgXL/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-ff4d532g5600hc32dc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WKqC4M

Another $12 or so

But other than that no

[forest lava]

shiny

guess I'm going white

[cyan ravine]

You could consider maybe swapping to a better gpu brand

[forest lava]

oh god i forgot gpu brands matter

which are the better ones?

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fcBzK8/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7800-xt-16-gb-video-card-11330-02-20g
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9PJJgB

Another $20

[cyan ravine]

Sapphire is better but the asrock is still perfectly fine

Like electrically the cards are identical

But cooler wise, design and feel

[manic cloak]

the sapphire is quiet asf

[cyan ravine]

You'll get your 20 worth out of it

[manic cloak]

• Sapphire owner

ew

wtf

how did I make a bullet point

[cyan ravine]

Idk

[manic cloak]

• Sapphire Owner is what I meant

ah

the "-"

is now -

what

• a

[forest lava]

Yeah it makes those now

[manic cloak]

yuck.

[forest lava]

I think it's cool

pcpartpicker is trippin for me

[cyan ravine]

Each link I'm adding I'm updating with changes

[forest lava]

Much appreciated

[cyan ravine]

Should look like this now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJnPQP

If the 7900xt was still on sale it would fit here

[manic cloak]

hmmm

[cyan ravine]

You'd be about 80 over budget I think

[manic cloak]

he could get some deals w tiktok shop

[cyan ravine]

Sure, except I can't see any of those

[manic cloak]

rip

69.99 750e corsair ik is one

idk if he has storage

[forest lava]

I do

[manic cloak]

there's the montech air 100 for sale

ah

[cyan ravine]

Air 100 white

?

[manic cloak]

mhm

[cyan ravine]

Worth

[manic cloak]

it's the only color cause black is oos

[cyan ravine]

Tho not matx

[manic cloak]

let me check price

it is matx

[forest lava]

matx is generally better than atx?

[manic cloak]

or do you want ATX

well

[cyan ravine]

Air 100 I thought was atx no

[manic cloak]

it really depends but size doesn't matter here

air 903 max is what you're thinking of

[cyan ravine]

Is it? Oh

Oh yeah it is

Mb

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/wvmmP6,bQGhP6/

mhm

[plucky timber]

Ok so

[cyan ravine]

How much is the air 100 tho

[manic cloak]

let me check

[cyan ravine]

55 - ok
45 - great

[forest lava]

What about black cases

[manic cloak]

63.99-20$ + 10$ shipping + tax..

[cyan ravine]

54

[manic cloak]

so it comes out to 61$

[forest lava]

nah nvm I'll go white this time

[manic cloak]

for me

atleast

[cyan ravine]

@forest lava there are black case options

I was just colour matching the mobo

[forest lava]

nah why not go white

[manic cloak]

otherwise that's the only white case that's cheap without removing the quality

[forest lava]

it'd be boring to go black every time

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[manic cloak]

montech 903 max white is 5$ more

but otherwise that's it

they charge 10$ shipping for cases and some items

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JH3LFs

[plucky timber]

Xeon E5 2666v3,X99 Board, 16GB DDR3, CPU Cooler - $56
GTX 1080 - $100
PSU - $70
240GB SSD & 1TB HDD - $10
Case & Fans: NIL
Total: $236

[cyan ravine]

Worthwhile change of case

[plucky timber]

How much should i sell the PC for?

[cyan ravine]

Idk

Lol

My department is not resale

[plucky timber]

Gonna try $400

[cyan ravine]

Ur in HK right

Try googling what a 1080 pc is roughly like

[plucky timber]

Yeah

Hmm

[cyan ravine]

It won't translate to what anyone else says here

For one I'm Aussie and everyone else and their dog is north American

Lol

[forest lava]

I can't wait to own a fully modular psu

having a non-modular in my last pc was hell

I cringed every time I opened the back

[plucky timber]

Wtf

People are selling R9 370 pcs for $400

Scam

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[cyan ravine]

Modular is ironically worse to manage lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

list it for $400 then

ez

[plucky timber]

Screw it

$500

Low ball margin

[forest lava]

huhhhhhhh how is that possible?

[plucky timber]

I mean $500 will give me a VERY good profit margin

Ah crap

Gonna do $450

There's 3060 pcs at the $550 range

Actually

Psychological warfare

$499

ahhh I love money

[forest lava]

One final thing...

[cyan ravine]

When they make modular, they shrink each wire really tight and stiff

Where as on non modular, wires are really loose and flexible

[forest lava]

ouch

and I'm assuming bending them wrong can cause problems

[cyan ravine]

You have more to deal with on non modular typically but they fold away so much easier

[cyan ravine]

I mean if you're ridiculous with it yeah

But typically no

It's just a side effect of shrink wrapping

[forest lava]

Whenever I google TN vs VA vs IPS, I always hear that TN has a faster response time but worse colors, but my last monitor wasn't TN and had 1ms with 144hz refresh rate. Is the difference between the panels outside of visuals actually important?

[plucky timber]

Meh

Are you like

A esports sweat

TN is more like cheap refresh rate

[forest lava]

No but I really enjoy high fps but also good visuals

[cyan ravine]

I think I put an ips in there

[plucky timber]

TN looks pretty bad

Relatively speaking

[forest lava]

Yeah I know, I never liked TN but I don't want to potentially get something worse

[cyan ravine]

The best looking imo is va or oled

But you get ghosting on va

(va also includes qled)

[forest lava]

Doesn't OLED ghost too?

[cyan ravine]

Oled is one of the least likely to ghost ever

[plucky timber]

Actually now i think about it

How much would y'all pay for a LC 1080?

[cyan ravine]

OLED has an insane advantage in colour, response and clarity

[plucky timber]

Actually

[cyan ravine]

Responsiveness is typically near or sub 0.01ms

[plucky timber]

Better question

[forest lava]

OLED looks expensive as hell though

[plucky timber]

How much more are y'all willing to pay for a lc 1080 over a regular 1080?

[cyan ravine]

Probably normal 1080 price

I'm guessing sea hawk

[forest lava]

What about IPS?

[plucky timber]

Yea

[cyan ravine]

Yes, it's a natural winner

[plucky timber]

Sea hawk

It was like $10 more than a 1070 ti

1080 more marketable

[cyan ravine]

Ips is nice, but you don't get very clear colour or contrast

VA is nice, but you don't get clear frames without a tiny bit of ghosting

TN can't really comment

[forest lava]

IPS is probably the winner here then

[cyan ravine]

I've either put a good va or ips in the list

[forest lava]

I don't want ghosting

Oh the one you selected is VA

[cyan ravine]

Then the remaining like, 20? Could go to a better screen

[plucky timber]

Chinese market is stupid good if you know your way around used shops

And also X79/X99

[forest lava]

My last monitor was VA too so it's probably not a problem

[plucky timber]

Xeons are stupid cheap

Like go one generation back and you spend half as much on a pc

Pascal stupid cheap

[cyan ravine]

Ok this is maxed out @forest lava
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n7vBGP

[plucky timber]

Ok that's like 3 generations back but 1080 still really good

For a mid range pc

[cyan ravine]

You need to use tiktok shop to get the cheap psu

[forest lava]

that list is perfect

thank you very much

[cyan ravine]

Np

Can't think of anything else at this point

Hmmm

Yeah nope, intel won't come close here

Best we can do

good luck

[forest lava]

tyty

[leaden mauve]

👀

Don't buy x79 for a daily in 2023

2024...

[glossy edge]

Anyone know what to look for in a wifi bluetooth card?

[tepid compass]

my aio is positioned at the top and i have the tubes on the left side, is that okay?

[glossy edge]

Yes

The meme gn concern is dont have the pump at the highest point in the loop

[tepid compass]

wdym highest point in the loop?

i would send a photo if i could

[glossy edge]

If your radiator is at the top and its a traditional design with the pump on the part that mounts to the socket you are good

Like with regards to what part of the loop is physically the highest up

[tepid compass]

ah okay thanks

i have a h150i icue so it’s probably fine

[glossy edge]

If its this design idk what to tell you tbh but yea what you have seems fine

[cinder glen]

hello, I am having issues with my first boot up. RGB turns on but no display. Post status checker lights are showing for CPU and RAM. pcpartpicker showed the parts were compatible but the AsRock website doesnt show the RAM as compatible for their MB. I assume RAM is one problem but does anyone know solutions for CPU?

MB: Asrock B650M pro
CPU: Ryzen 7 7800x3d
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32bg (CMH32GX5M2D6000C36W)
GPU RX 7900XTX

[manic cloak]

Ram may be dead, Corsair isn’t the most reliable.

Plug everything back in, and leave one stick of ram inside B1 (aka the 2nd slot) call this ram stick R1.

If it doesn’t boot, take R2 (ram stick 2) and put that in B1.

Same thing, no boot take R1 and put it in B2 (slot 4)

Keep switching back and forth, basically trying both ram sticks in each slot to see if it boots. There can be many issues but it’s likely that the RAM is the issue.

[little osprey]

Clear CMOS

Check what display port you're plugged into

[crimson zinc]

@split cliff what is that screen right above your CPU?

[plucky timber]

what exactly is unreliable about corsair?

[plucky timber]

Is this your first build?

[cyan ravine]

corsair ram is actual trash

always using bottom bin chips wherever possible

locking pmic's down

poor QC quality, tons of kits barely make rated xmp

dominator heatsinks are their only redeeming feature and they charge a fortune for them so it's absolutely not worth it

icue support is flaky at best

most of the ram issues I see has corsair stamped on it

need I go on?

[plucky timber]

yikes

even for their higher end products?

[cyan ravine]

I wouldn't know about their higher end

I'm not prepared to spend umpteenth amounts more for corsair branding on the same stick lol

[plucky timber]

so basically

they're only good for their psus

[cyan ravine]

I've been saying this for a long time

lmao

their cases are ok, they used to be better bang for the buck

it's really just the psus now

[plucky timber]

meh

They still sell the 900D

while yes it's a fine case

they charge full retail price for it

the only reason you would buy it is for the 5.25" bays

[cyan ravine]

pop air exists

[plucky timber]

or literally any other case

my go to cases picks are phanteks and fractal

[cyan ravine]

phanteks enthoo in the chat

[plucky timber]

or just anything with good build quality really

[plucky timber]

i miss my enthoo pro 2 tbh

great case

oh yeah

lian li is also good but they don't have much on the lower end

I'm also starting to develop a fascinating for compact MATX cases

they're like ITX but way more affordable

not just in case prices but the fact that you don't have to get a itx board (and sometimes you can use a ATX PSU with them)

[cyan ravine]

o11 air mini

eh, not really low end

but I mean

[plucky timber]

that's on the mid range but yeah

[cyan ravine]

for server stuff? meh kinda

[plucky timber]

i mean tbh that is a good price range

it is pretty pricey but usually the cases at that range are really good

[cyan ravine]

for a case that is extremely modular, 110 isn't bad

[plucky timber]

yeah

modularity is worth the price 100%

[cyan ravine]

personally I don't like the o11's anymore, but they're very practical

[plucky timber]

tho I kinda want a case that has removable 5.25" bays

[cyan ravine]

it does tho

[plucky timber]

wait

IT DOES?

[cyan ravine]

yes

[plucky timber]

can i put a blu ray drive in it?

[cyan ravine]

oh those

uh

no

[plucky timber]

aw

[cyan ravine]

optical bays are a no

[plucky timber]

to be fair barely any cases have that feature anymore

[cyan ravine]

sorry, mixed up 3.5" with 5.25"

[plucky timber]

lol

[cyan ravine]

pop air

[plucky timber]

does it?

[cyan ravine]

yes

bottom of the front

[plucky timber]

ohhh

[cyan ravine]

specifically has the enablement of a 5.25

[plucky timber]

that's a pretty neat solution

[cyan ravine]

fractal respects the og

lol

[plucky timber]

too small for me tho sadly

[cyan ravine]

then pop xl air

[plucky timber]

I kinda want a server case with a 5.25" drive

[cyan ravine]

heh

enthoo

[plucky timber]

OG has 5.25"?

oh wow it actually does

damn

[cyan ravine]

enthoo is the case that has way too many mounting options

like a meshify 2(?)

[plucky timber]

"case"

enthoo is like

the mindset of enthoo is like "how much hardware can we possibly fit in a case"

that's the enthoo

TWO computers and a crap load of hard drives

[cyan ravine]

if I redid things

I'd get an enthoo

I'd have like

[plucky timber]

can legit have a gaming pc and a server in the same chassis

[cyan ravine]

TR + ITX Ryzen

[plucky timber]

i sold my enthoo

cuz laptop

[cyan ravine]

meh

nothing wrong with downsizing

[plucky timber]

yeah

I'm moving in the exact opposite direction really

instead of going for maximum space for hdds

I'm going for the most compact and portable setup

[tranquil basin]

So I’m building my first pc and testing my prebuild (motherboard-gpu-cpu-cooler-power out of the case with a screwdriver as a power switch) to make sure everything is good,

I’m trying to get my monitor to pull up the boot screen

Instead, everything turns on then turns off over and over again??

This is all i got if it helps:

Any idea why that might be happening?

[plucky timber]

hmm

this is probably not the issue but

a dead, missing, or improperly seated cmos batteries causes the motherboard to boot loop

so maybe try replacing or reseating the cmos battery

it might also be improperly seated ram

[little osprey]

Anyone know what case the OMEN 25L uses or if there’s similar?

I like it

I saw it at Best Buy

[vague oracle]

Omen 25L is an OEM case

[little osprey]

Oh

Well I liked the pre-built look a lot

Might’ve been the small air cooler cooler and minimal RGB

I’ve only used Phanteks cases

I dunno if that’s a good or bad thing

https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/HP-OMEN-25L-Gaming-Entertainment-Desktop-PC-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600G-6-Core-GeForce-GTX-1660-Super-32GB-RAM-512GB-PCIe-SSD-2TB-HDD-3-5-Wifi-USB-3-2-HDMI-Win_13fc216a-a079-4144-ac56-70abf4dab817.b3803417120ae7417c95a6b91bcc4eb6.jpeg?odnHeight=768&odnWidth=768&odnBg=FFFFFF

I think this is the one I saw

Anyone know a similar case?

[tranquil basin]

I’ll try that once I’m back from work tonight, thank you

[plucky timber]

ahahha

You've been sheltered from the poorly built sub-$50 cases

[little osprey]

I just think my rig now has too many ridges

[vague oracle]

Change your mind on selling it?

[little osprey]

No, I still wanna

Just can’t find anyone to buy it

I want a laptop or downgraded rig (Like an actual 1080p rig)

But many a laptop

[spring nacelle]

can anyone help me out here, upgraded from an older system not too long ago and the old one has been sat gathering dust. What would be the right price (£) for a r7 1700 + gtx 1070 16gb ddr4 system? only thing missing is a storage device.

[olive cypress]

New side panel filter finally came in, now the sleeper looks even better
It does trap some of the heat but it's not too bad, GPU still around 60C being not too loud

Tomorrow I'll mount the new CPU cooler

i7 4770 and Vega 56 pulling 400w with heaven benchmark

[crimson zinc]

So, a friend of mine doesn’t have discord, but he wants a build for his new gaming room. He Came up with some guidelines for his pc.

“Something that can game 1440p high settings at no problem, I want H6 flow as a case, AMD cpu only, and white build sort of, I want some white rgb fans too.”

Budget of $1300 MAX. No peripherals needed.

@potent portal, would you be able to build a PCPP list for them?

[pseudo pollen]

that's sort of an odd build request, with amd cpu only

[crimson zinc]

Yeah, I told him that.
But he’s sticking to his guns.

[pseudo pollen]

It's alright, I'll make a quick build

[crimson zinc]

Ty. He’s a bit of an odd one, if that explains the choices lmao

[pseudo pollen]

i don't get the h6 flow as it looks kinda bad imo, but he likes what he likes

[serene onyx]

https://www.newegg.com/peladn-rx5600-6g/p/27N-008H-00026?nrtv_cid=579abeff68a84cd11c896148edb3c1993b372d1ab97f0c02a27cc55cd5cba537&utm_source=howl-toastybros&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-howl-toastybros&cm_mmc=afc-howl-_-1524-_-14192363409&nrtv_as_src=1

[pseudo pollen]

no

[serene onyx]

Not worth it?

[pseudo pollen]

not really

[serene onyx]

I'm trying to make a 670 build

[pseudo pollen]

a used 5700xt is around that price, so not worth it

[serene onyx]

This is what I have so far

Alrighty

[pseudo pollen]

for 670 you can get a much better gpu

(in the pc)

[serene onyx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y2bnyg

What about this?

This is the build I have

[pseudo pollen]

eh no

not that psu whatever you do

[serene onyx]

Can you help me fix it

[pseudo pollen]

yeah, just let me help someone else first

[crimson zinc]

Never take that PSU

[serene onyx]

I'm trying to keep it below 670

[serene onyx]

Alrighty

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Zesty_/saved/#view=XrjPf7

This was the other one I had

[pseudo pollen]

that's better honestly

not the best, but getting there

[serene onyx]

Yeah I figured

I was gonna use tiktok shop to get the cpu cheaper

[pseudo pollen]

Tiktok shop rn doesn't have many good deals

I've been checking daily on a few different devices and accounts

[serene onyx]

Damn

If you can, do you think we can maybe use some of those new egg Christmas discounts?

[pseudo pollen]

not sure man

Let me just finish up this build and I'll help more in depth

[serene onyx]

It's fine

Alright

Take ur time

@ me when you have the time

[pseudo pollen]

yeah sure

[serene onyx]

Alrighty

[pseudo pollen]

@crimson zinc this is what I have rn https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y8Pyt7

I had this 7900xt in there, but it went over budget slightly https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cBFWz6

If I really wanted that 7900xt in there under budget, I could cut the ram to this, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hQwwyg, but I don't feel comfortable getting that bad of ram

alright, this is the best I can do for ya https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tnNkWt, probably will have to ask someone else, because I don't know what else to cut to get to that 1300 budget

[manic cloak]

😭

[pseudo pollen]

that aint bad

I'd get that If I was looking to build a pc

also, if you want to stop getting buyers remorse, stop looking at gpus

@serene onyx https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pk8RYN

could probably get a better price with a used gpu

[serene onyx]

Thank you

[pseudo pollen]

yeah no problem man

[serene onyx]

@pseudo pollen are amazon used gpus good

[pseudo pollen]

eh, not really

[serene onyx]

Hm

Alr

[pseudo pollen]

I'm looking at used gpus rn, and none of them are in the $350-ish dollar range

[serene onyx]

Damn

[pseudo pollen]

could get like a 3070 ti, but not worth it imo

[serene onyx]

Yeah I feel you

[pseudo pollen]

used 3070 could save some money if you wanted

[serene onyx]

What about a rx 7600?

Is that good?

[pseudo pollen]

it's a 6650xt in performance iirc

[serene onyx]

Is there a massive difference between the rx 7600 and the 6700 xt

?

[pseudo pollen]

not the biggest difference, but it's there

[serene onyx]

Do you think it would be noticeable? Cause this build is for my cousin

[serene onyx]

Oh wow

[pseudo pollen]

20% difference is pretty noticable imo

[serene onyx]

Yeah

Ur right

[pseudo pollen]

It's still around $50 under budget too

that's if you can get the same prices that I did on tiktok

[serene onyx]

Yeah

I'm trying to account for the taxes

[pseudo pollen]

true

[serene onyx]

My cousin gave me 670$ so I'm trying not to pay the taxes out of pocket with my money 😭

[pseudo pollen]

I feel you man https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1070256989738905660.webp?size=48&name=deadge&quality=lossless

not the link lol

[serene onyx]

😭

LMAO

[pseudo pollen]

I thought it would get rid of it 😭

[serene onyx]

The link added on to it

[pseudo pollen]

will it happen again...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1080163210851794995.gif?size=48&name=FeelsKeebMon&quality=lossless

[serene onyx]

This time it worked 😭

[pseudo pollen]

no it just sent as a gif

this one is animated

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/818316720317267970.webp?size=48&name=BlushingKek&quality=lossless

wait what

WHY IS THIS BROJKKEN https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154547694191259708.webp?size=48&name=gasp~1&quality=lossless

[serene onyx]

😭

How'd you get those really low prices

On the build

[pseudo pollen]

That's including the "30% off orders up to $20 off"

[serene onyx]

Ohhh

So I'll have to make multiple tiktok accounts?

[pseudo pollen]

yeah

[serene onyx]

Alright

[pseudo pollen]

actually maybe not

just buy one thing on one acc and see if that coupon is still there

I bought a few things on tiktok, and after a while I get the coupons again

[serene onyx]

Hm

How long would I have to wait

I need to build this before christmas

[pseudo pollen]

A decently long while

[serene onyx]

Oh god

[pseudo pollen]

make new accounts, it's not too hard

[serene onyx]

Alright

[pseudo pollen]

just get a proton mail acc, some new gmail accounts

grab your mom's email if that's what it takes

[serene onyx]

The coupon is not appearing

[pseudo pollen]

that happens sometimes

if you have another device try it on that

if you have a pc you can get bluestacks, which is an android emulator

and get tiktok on that

[serene onyx]

😭

[pseudo pollen]

it's annoying, but you gotta do what you gotta do

or you can get the parts from normal websites and just get worse parts

[serene onyx]

Yeah

I might have too

I'll probably buy like 2 parts from tiktok

And the rest that way

[pseudo pollen]

maybe, choose the most expensive parts then buy them on tiktok

[serene onyx]

Alrighty

[pseudo pollen]

like cpu and ram/ssd probably

actually, cpu and psu

those you can save the most money on

[serene onyx]

Alrighty

[manic cloak]

Is this monitor better than the XV272U? https://www.costco.com/msi-27"-wqhd-ips-nvidia-g-sync-gaming-monitor.product.4000203457.html

[pseudo pollen]

looks like a decent monitor, not sure on the panel quality though

yooo just beat my record

[gentle pollen]

About to buy parts in a moment.

Going with these parts:

• 7950x3D (Game & Work)
• X670-P motherboard from MSI
• ram, would like some help with this. Debating on this kit: https://www.amazon.com.mx/gp/product/B0BPHRJX6F/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A1G99GVHAT2WD8&psc=1

[pseudo pollen]

cl46 5600mhz isn't too good of a kit, probably something around that price that has a better cas latency

[gentle pollen]

Pesos.

I need to order from amazon.com.mx as I am in Mexico.

[pseudo pollen]

yeah that makes sense

[gentle pollen]

I heard this is guarenteed Hynix which ocs well? I don't mind manual tuning so long as that's the case.

[pseudo pollen]

yeah that's outside of my knowledge, probably have to ask someone else about that

[serene onyx]

Ok so I messed with the thing a lil

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7fLVmD

Is this good?

I got it below 670$ (including the taxes)

[leaden mauve]

Hynix 16Gbit A and M-die OC well, M-die is better but i cant tell you any specifics off the top of my head or how to identify it

ddr3 better

[gentle pollen]

are these teamgroup sticks guarenteed A or M die?

they say Hynix IC in the name.

[leaden mauve]

with an xmp that low i wouldnt be surprised if it wasnt mdie, but it might be similar to S8B where there's a big difference in the lower-upper limits of kits its used it iirc

so yea idk lol

ask forks he messes with ddr5 a lot

[gentle pollen]

Is it allowed to ping in here?

I am about to pull the trigger after a year of waiting so I wanna make sure I get the right kit.

[serene onyx]

@pseudo pollen hey

[pseudo pollen]

What's up

[serene onyx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7fLVmD

Is this good

This is what I was able to do not using the coupons

It's like 633$ taxes included

[pseudo pollen]

The case I have experience with, and it's kinda crap

Rest of it is fine

[serene onyx]

Alrighty

The error is a false negative right?

[pseudo pollen]

The case uses pop out pcie covers, molex fans, and the motherboard hangs over the edge over the fans

[pseudo pollen]

Yeah

[serene onyx]

Oh god

Yeah I'll find a better case

[pseudo pollen]

Yeah, they're getting pretty cheap now so you don't have to get a crap case

[serene onyx]

Yeah I get you

[gentle pollen]

Pulling the trigger.

It is done!

[pseudo pollen]

Good luck on the build!

[cinder glen]

swapping the RAM fixed it. I guess I read the instructions wrong and placed the RAM in the A slots. Holding it the other way, I slotted my ram to the B slot and now boots up. Weird how B goes before A....whatever, it works now thanks

[manic cloak]

it depends on the ram

cause some recommend to do B1 and B2 instead of A1 and A2

[cinder glen]

AsRock B650 pro recommends B first. But I was looking at the MB upside down and inserted it in A slots

[cyan ravine]

Lmfao

[cyan ravine]

That would legit do it

[cinder glen]

glad that was the only issue, was worried my CPU was dead.

[cyan ravine]

The 1st and 3rd channels from the cpu are weaker on some motherboards than the 2nd and 4th

Almost like, they don't need to be there anyway

[manic cloak]

Felix idk why but you have two profile pictures

[cyan ravine]

One's my server profile

[manic cloak]

Ah

Anyways I found a used 6800xt for 300$, then 6950xt at microcenter for 550$

And as of right now I’m getting fricked over by Microsoft’s cash back with my 7800xt

[cyan ravine]

Contact them

Hassle them constantly about it

No better way to address that

[manic cloak]

I can’t

Well, I have but it’s email only

[cyan ravine]

You can, they have support emails

[manic cloak]

Search up Microsoft cash back on Reddit

Trust me man

I’ve waited 3 weeks

No reply

Isn’t in my junk mail considering it’s appearing in my focus, would be a massive issue if Microsoft emails appeared in Microsoft junk bin

[cyan ravine]

I'm not sure what the issue is

No there? Stuck on ms?

Apparently that cashback appears on your ms account

Or something like that

[manic cloak]

Nope

I’ll show you

@cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

Ok so no email yet

[manic cloak]

I got this email for purchasing the order through edge after redeeming cashback

[obsidian wigeon]

aka ms account

wait for email

[manic cloak]

That’s my Microsoft email.

that’s in outlook

[cyan ravine]

Have you checked that cashback account for it

[manic cloak]

Yes

Many times

[obsidian wigeon]

hmm

[manic cloak]

no cashback history

[obsidian wigeon]

yell at ms about it

[cyan ravine]

Then hassle the crap out of their support

[manic cloak]

which is strange

oh I have

4 emails sent out

[cyan ravine]

Just keep hassling

[manic cloak]

I was supposed to have my cashback redeemed on the 28th of November

[obsidian wigeon]

hassle em on and on

[manic cloak]

but it POOFED

[cyan ravine]

You've done all the right things

Just keep it up

[manic cloak]

there's so many support forums out there rn

for "cashback isnt responding!!"

[cyan ravine]

Reminds me of when razer just "broke my phone" after withholding it for 3 months

[manic cloak]

and the dumb MS mods are like "just reply with a support here"

[cyan ravine]

That was a fun time

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

[cyan ravine]

Just keep hassling

[manic cloak]

ya im gonna start calling the wrong support lines

[obsidian wigeon]

my lg refurb fone was rejected from rma

my solution?

[manic cloak]

for like advertisement and business

[cyan ravine]

If you wait and stay patient, they will think you can keep waiting

[obsidian wigeon]

sell it while i can

[cyan ravine]

Mine was working until they broke it

It had a loose usb-c plug

Ez fix

Apparently not?

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

mine was the OLED itself failing

[manic cloak]

calling ms advertisement rn

gonna yap

[cyan ravine]

Oh I thought that was allowed

Lmao

In hindsight razer were just asses, broke the phone to make me pay

[obsidian wigeon]

asus rma here is amazing

[cyan ravine]

But the upshot was I got an upgraded phone

So it kinda worked out

[obsidian wigeon]

warranty still on? rma anything

no questions asked

the technician broke some parts during the fix? free replacement of said broken parts

i wanna buy an asus phone but they stopped making budget ones

only the gaymer and zenfone

[cyan ravine]

Zenfone would be my next phone

I've been back on armoury crate for some time now, I think they've fixed whatever bs was plaguing it

Not that I recommend the software, but it used to be terribly buggy

[manic cloak]

They have a limit on how many emails you can send to cashback

which is 1!

i'm on MS advertisement rn for support

not yelling at this lady but i'm ranting about where's my money

if they don't help, to microsoft business!!

[tranquil basin]

Does anyone have experience with the arctic freeze ii 360 liquid freezer?

This thing is massiveeee idk how to fit it into the case

Seems like there isn’t enough clearance no matter where i try to put it!!!

-The radiator portion-

[crimson zinc]

Okay. If I had a budget of $2,500, and wanted peripherals with it, could someone build me something? Preferably a white case.

[pseudo pollen]

excluding peripherals, how much do you want to spend?

[crimson zinc]

Max of $2500.

[pseudo pollen]

actually with ram https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2TRNxH

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8CkvdH could fit this 4090 if you wanted

[cyan ravine]

All 4090's out of stock

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3XtxRK

Could also do gigabyte m27q-x for the monitor

450 isn't really worth it though unless you need a kvm (if you don't know what this is then you probably don't need it)

If you wanted OLED this is slightly over budget too @crimson zinc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4jkvdH

Could trim down to be under tho

Like we did a 1tb ssd instead

And ditch the air cooler and use the one that comes with the cpu

Actually this is right on the dot:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHtxRK

This specific oled is definitely worth it if you go with it

[vague oracle]

What case?

[manic cloak]

Uhhhhhhhh

[tranquil basin]

This one..

[steel cloud]

yall rate this https://pcpartpicker.com/user/AdrielGaming/saved/rb3fpg

[cyan ravine]

what's ur budget

the gpu price isn't shown

welp

do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T4CmN6

or change psu to this if you want something a little beefier

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v4L7YJ/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpg-0650fpcgus-r

it's in budget

[steel cloud]

i dont even know

[steel cloud]

im gonna change that

[cyan ravine]

well I posted a list there that's cheaper/same if you want feedback

should be much better

[rancid lodge]

recommended ram speed and cl for 7900x?

thinking of upgrading and turning my 5900x into a sweet server host for mc and other misc stuff

recommended max of 5200 by AMD but like

5600 or 6000

cause I've been running my 5900x with 3600 cl16 absolutely fine since ryzen 5000 launched

[cyan ravine]

whatever is stable for whatever capacity you think you need

64gb can work up to 6400

48gb as well

128gb you'd want to consider 4800 or less

192gb as well

[rancid lodge]

Okay yeah I'll go 6000 then

Won't need more than 64gb

[frigid jackal]

what y’all think about this prebuilt for my younger brother
https://a.co/d/9xQOsHP

[fossil cedar]

Really bad for the price, this is a good bit cheaper and better build quality and stuff
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-codex-r-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-12400f-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-1tb-ssd-black/6559039.p?skuId=6559039

[frigid jackal]

:3

thank you

[frigid jackal]

if I were to upgrade the ram to 32gb could I just install two more of the same sticks into the other slots?

[fossil cedar]

Technically it's a gamble but yeah should be fine

[coarse coral]

PC has two kits of 32gb 6800cl36 ddr5 but will only run stable on 6400

[obsidian trout]

Hello I bought I5 12600k and MSI MAG B760 Tomahawk WiFi motherboard
I need a good cpu cooler less than 100 CAD any recommendation

[potent portal]

Canada though

[low path]

im so excited for my build. Fal what do u recommend i do first? should i install the mobo in the case then the cpu and cooler or should i install both on the mobo before installing the mobo in the case

[potent portal]

Air cooling right? Install the cooler before putting in the motherboard, and attach the CPU power cable before too

And memory while you're at it, might as well

Heck even the M.2 if you wanted

Anything you can attach before you limit your working space is one less headache

[low path]

Yea air cooling, my cpu cooler is that big one the overkill xD, I was gonna install the cpu cooler and cpu after bc i have to figure out if my bios is on the right version to support my cpu

[crimson zinc]

Does anyone here have any experience with gaming laptops? Fiancé wants one and I have a pick for her.

[potent portal]

You can do that before you install the board too. No need for a case, set it in the motherboard box. Cardboard is non-conductive.

[low path]

so i can install the cpu then or does it not matter

[crimson zinc]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-predator-helios-neo-16-wqxga-165hz-ips-gaming-laptop-intel-i7-13700hx-geforce-rtx-4060-with-16gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-steel-gray/6541302.p?skuId=6541302

[potent portal]

If you have flashback you can update the bios before anything else, you just need power cables.

But it still works with or without everything else installed

[low path]

Flashback?

[potent portal]

The bios flash button

It lets you update the bios without turning on the motherboard

[low path]

ohh the one on the mobo

and i gatta put link it to my monitor for dispay correct? or

[potent portal]

Not for flashback, but if you want to do a boot test yes you can do that and skip the GPU for now

It might take a few minutes for first boot

[vague idol]

tell me how this makes any sense at all? for gaming it says 0 but for general task 19% lol?

[potent portal]

Those calculators are worthless

[vague idol]

i think so

it told me its to weak

like what

amd is the best for gaming

lol

also i get my pc back in a few hours

[potent portal]

Second best gaming processor is too weak for the 20th best GPU lol

[vague idol]

i got it all to work

this got to be made up i just refreshed the page

and it

says 46% now

so its just giving me random numbers

[potent portal]

Possibly. Maybe it detects if you have AMD or Intel and gives a number within a certain range.

[vague idol]

it just said 0

now it says 93%

its just giving me random numbers xd

[potent portal]

Caught in 4k lol

[vague idol]

back to 0.6

xd

[low path]

so i just hook up the psu to the mobo? and then just click flashback and it updates to the right bios?

[potent portal]

The grammar is awful too on that site

[vague idol]

it gets 900 to 1k in creative

xd

let me check the parts i have rn

[potent portal]

Bruh that range though

[potent portal]

Yes you can just connect the 24 pin and CPU power, plug in the USB drive with the bios on it, and hit the update button.
Exact steps vary by model.

[vague idol]

..

now i know this site is lieing LOL its telling me my pc can get 600 on low settings and im on all low and cant get solid 240

thats the max

xd

[low path]

so install the cpu then? or not lol i assume i do since i plug in the cpu power

[potent portal]

Up to you

Check your manual for the exact steps. CPU is optional.

[vague idol]

so so cpu can handle the 4090 is what this is saying lol?

also falcie i got a issue

i left the plastic on the thing that goes aabove the ssd

that covers the sticky pad

is that ok or do i need to remove the cpu and remove it

[potent portal]

The heatsink? Yeah you'll want to remove the plastic. It'll stop the heatsink from doing its job.

Which honestly isn't a big issue unless you're using a gen 4 or 5 drive, it might be ok on a gen 3.

[leaden mauve]

you can ignore this, thats wrong lol

where'd you see that

[manic cloak]

It’s basically a website that compares bottlenecks

But in reality

It ain’t true

[little matrix]

can anyone help me?
my pc deadlocked last night after like a month of no crashes after I replaced my ram and psu
i didn't get any crash or error dumps
it was just like an extended freeze and i ended up having to hold the power button down because nothing was happening
like no caps lock response

[low path]

alright, ill ask more when my mobo actually comes for i can it,

[cyan ravine]

not sure how they're measuring that but depending on how you do things a 14900k could be too strong even for a 4090 at 1080p

for 1440p at a bare minimum you'd run a 4090 with one though, generally speaking

[potent portal]

Yeah it's not technically wrong, a 4090 at 1080p is just... why.

[cyan ravine]

all bottleneck calculators are like that

not totally wrong just

generalising is a terrible idea

[leaden mauve]

Which is why it's wrong

[cyan ravine]

it's not totally wrong

[potent portal]

It's the same kind of wrong as UBM though

[cyan ravine]

kinda

idk I'd put ubm lower tbh lmao

[mossy venture]

We should get a ?bottleneckcalc

[cyan ravine]

yesss

good idea

[leaden mauve]

"not technically wrong" is such a low standard

Its wrong

[cyan ravine]

I guess I'm just a nicer person then

[leaden mauve]

Its like saying x99 is still a viable option to daily 😭😭😭

[cyan ravine]

man just admitted to years of preaching the untruths

💀

[potent portal]

Are you saying it's not? I was just running handbrake on my E5 1650v2 yesterday

[leaden mauve]

Dailying am5 and ddr5 has changed me. Maybe I should revert to my old ways

[potent portal]

(granted it was at 408x360 resolution but it worked fine)

[leaden mauve]

[vague oracle]

DDR5>DDR3

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-tobey-maguire-tobey-maguire-spider-man-epic-sadness-gif-23810402

[potent portal]

Considering you can have 12 channels of DDR5 now, yeah that's hard to dispute

[leaden mauve]

24 channel ddr3

[potent portal]

Would still only be half the bandwidth

[cyan ravine]

48 channel

let's ignore having any pcie slots here

[leaden mauve]

96 channel take it or leave it

[potent portal]

But can you have 1TB of memory on a single board with DDR3

Imagine running a ramdrive off that

[leaden mauve]

🥴

64GB dimms are 19 bucks or so now iirc

and i happen to have access to some r720s....

[cyan ravine]

won't fit

[leaden mauve]

[leaden mauve]

did you just make this LOL

[cyan ravine]

maybe

48 channel ddr3

[leaden mauve]

valid

im running more ddr3 soon

3570k 4820k and 4930k though i save that one for later

[potent portal]

So you'd only need 16 slots, and to cross your fingers they all work

[leaden mauve]

wait no im running the 4930k instead of the 4820k

[leaden mauve]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/276149061000?

8Rx4 lmao

insane

[potent portal]

What motherboard supports 16 of those

Without making the bios have a panic attack

[leaden mauve]

proper server platforms

like the r720

[leaden mauve]

it would only cost 303 bucks

thats really cheap for 1TB

[potent portal]

Honestly yeah that's not bad

I can still remember 1TB SSDs costing that much

[edgy viper]

I'm dreading geting 128gb ddr5 ecc lol it's over 1k 😦

[leaden mauve]

simple solution, use ddr3 instead /s

[cyan ravine]

use ddr4

[potent portal]

ECC D4 is still pricy too tho

[edgy viper]

can't use ddr4

[potent portal]

*high capacity

DDR5 supports 512GB sticks

It would take exactly 2 of those to make 1TB

12 channels, 2 slots per channel

12TB in one epyc computer

[edgy viper]

but yeah my dilemma is choosing 128gb 6400 or 256gb 4800 for 1k lol

[potent portal]

What are you using it for

[cyan ravine]

definitely pick the larger capacity

128 would be luck to run 6400

[edgy viper]

raw editing and 3d rendering

[cyan ravine]

larger capacity 100%

[potent portal]

Yeah you don't need speed for that

[mossy venture]

128gb at slower speeds an option?

And what would the price diff be?

[edgy viper]

technically yeah, 128gb 4800 is like 500

Then again if I'm gonna go with the slower ram might as well go higher capacity lol

[mossy venture]

That seems like the best option imo, unless your tasks actually need 256gb

What about 2x96 kits?

[edgy viper]

Has to be rdimm

no 48gb rdimms

[cyan ravine]

I'd just go higher cap

you get so much more potential over a slight speed bump

[edgy viper]

probably what I'm gonna do

[potent portal]

Ahem... https://www.crucial.com/memory/server-ddr5/mtc20f208xs1rc56br

They have 96GB ones too

[edgy viper]

Oh hmm didn't see them

[potent portal]

Samsung is also starting production on their 32Gb ICs, so 128GB sticks are within easy reach

[edgy viper]

Maybe I should just wait

Maybe wait for 128gb dimms and see if people offload the 64gb lol

[potent portal]

Mostly the ones that can afford to do that are the likes of Google and Amazon

[low path]

wanna know what isnt so great, so i got 2 copys of the new avatar but the other person needs to have the cpu or gpu for it to work :|

[cyan ravine]

yes

they register it to the hardware

to avoid people mass buying > returning > redeeming all the codes

[weary galleon]

you can try subreddits like steamgameswap or gametrade. Sometimes people have the hardware but didn't catch the game key promo and are willing to pay

[vague idol]

So I'm almost done with my pc

But

I get a vga light

Any help?

I've reseated the gpu twice

[weary galleon]

reseat ram, make sure all cables are plugged in

[vague idol]

The ram?

[weary galleon]

yeah

the sticks in the motherboard

[vague idol]

The pc boots up

But the light is still on

And I do get a display

So ?????

[potent portal]

Bios bug then

[weary galleon]

i mean if it works it works

[vague idol]

So were good

[potent portal]

If everything is working as expected then yes

I think the bios is just forgetting to turn the light off

[vague idol]

Ok

Want me to show you the final product

[potent portal]

Go for it

We have #build-pics so it doesn't get buried in chat too

[vague idol]

Ok

Wait where should I put it lol

[lone flame]

#build-pics like he just said

[primal linden]

Anybody know a good budget $60 to 70$ atx case

[plucky timber]

G300A

[mossy venture]

^^ g300a is bae

Fractal design Pop air is also on sale for $70

[plucky timber]

Yes

Phanteks and Fractal makes really good case for the sub-$100 category

[manic cloak]

903 max 😍

Idk how good it is compared to the g300a or g360a

[mossy venture]

I'd take the g300a or pop air over it, but someone else might take the 903 max

[manic cloak]

I don’t like fractual tbh

Charges for shipping and wants you to pay for a usb c adapter for a front io

[cyan ravine]

903 max is good

p400a has been seen recently sub 60 too

[manic cloak]

Oh by the way if anybody knows

My dads trying to use his very old black external harddrive, I mean this thing is like the size of a mini pc.

Probably from 2002-2006 maybe? I’m wondering would there be any damage to it if I were to plug it in a usb-A 3 or 2?

had this happen Sunday night with a Christmas tree

[mossy venture]

At $70 after shipping its a pretty nice case

But understandable

[mossy venture]

I dont think it would, usb is backwards and forwards compatible, but I'm not 100% certain

[manic cloak]

👀

60$ 6000CL38

[mossy venture]

6000c38 but at that price nice

$60???

That's unbeatable value

[manic cloak]

30% coupon

And after tax

[mossy venture]

Unless 5600c46 t create kit is similar price

[manic cloak]

But that’s c46 😭

Plus the cl latency wouldn’t be a massive difference right

[mossy venture]

5600 is back down like 108 I think

[mossy venture]

It's gauranteed hynix

So great with 5 min of changing settings in bios

Even better with a couple hours

[manic cloak]

?

!!

@ornate condor how much would this be for you if you have tiktok shop? 👀

[vague oracle]

CL latency has almost no impact on performance

[cyan ravine]

ew

[potent portal]

No promises it works at all. The magnets usually have a life span around 10 years.

[potent portal]

To add to this, the tertiary timings seem to have the largest effect on performance, with the secondaries being fairly significant as well. Primaries are the last thing to touch on DDR5. oddly enough you can lose performance by putting primaries too low, especially on Samsung.

[manic cloak]

IT WORKS HA

the harddrive

just the windows 11 is so incompatible for it

it's crazy

anyways is there a difference between the b550 or x570 mobos considering it's last gen?

[earnest olive]

if, for some reason, you absolutely require pcie 4 on more than just a graphics card and one nvme, then get x570

otherwise, get b550

[plucky timber]

Also a lot of motherboards have some sata ports that are disabled when there's a NVMe ssd installed

[potent portal]

X570 can actually be worse than B550 because it has the chipset fan and since B550 is a newer design they might have better memory trace layout

[plucky timber]

But usually you wont enough sata drives for that to be an issue

[earnest olive]

i am honestly struggling to think of any use case for this

[manic cloak]

ya just looking at tiktok shop rn

[earnest olive]

x570 boards are fine but avoid paying extra for them

no reason to avoid one at a good price

[mossy venture]

B550m pro se kinda unbeatable value, unless there's a new sale on tt with the holiday sale

Last I saw, it was $63, idk if it can have a coupon or not

Probably doesn't really help you since very different price platform wise, b650 live mixer is $120 after coupon

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