The cheapest one
#building-and-recc-chat
mossy venture
They all are so overbuilt even the worst models stay cool
Just please use a sag bracket
pseudo pollen
embrace the sag
plucky timber
that sag's gonna become a crack
potent portal
Especially on a gigabyte
lone flame
Especially on a gigabyte
those pictures ive seen of those bro
š
didnt they not allow rma
plucky timber
4090s are way too heavy and anyone running them unsupported has a death wish
potent portal
didnt they not allow rma
Yeah there's been several documented refused repairs
burnt stratus
4090s are way too heavy and anyone running them unsupported has a death wish
mine's getting held up with a piece of string cheese
mossy venture
I used some tic tacs stacked on eachother vertically for my sag bracket
vague oracle
waterblock the card
simple cosmos
How's it going all I'm looking to have a massive upgrade to my whole system and have been going through picking out some parts within my price range. If possible can I get some feedback or improvements on what I have? On a side note I'm planning on using my current storage (512 gb teamgroup ssd and a seagate 2tb hardrive). I'm also planning on keeping my current power supply (seasonic focus gold 550 w 80+). Is it possible to keep what I want and if not can I get any recommendations. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3PZmCd
potent portal
~~waterblock the card~~
cyan ravine
~~waterblock the card~~
Already done it
potent portal
How's it going all I'm looking to have a massive upgrade to my whole system and ...
Well to start with the 7600 is the same as the 7600X and you don't need the cooler at all if you get the 7600. I'm sure a couple of us will have some pointers.
simple cosmos
Well to start with the 7600 is the same as the 7600X and you don't need the cool...
So since the 7600 comes with a cooler I can get rid of that right
potent portal
Yep
cyan ravine
@simple cosmos
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xspspB
But you need a new psu.
potent portal
Right, the 7600 doesn't need more than a $20 air cooler at most
simple cosmos
bet
cyan ravine
If you were able to give up on the north, or spend more
This would be a solid all white upgrade
(problem is a white gpu is hard to find cheap so)
cyan ravine
obsidian wigeon
disregard my list
cyan ravine
simple cosmos
still faster than 3060ti
If you don't mind explaining how is the 7700 better than the 3060ti?
cyan ravine
If you don't mind explaining how is the 7700 better than the 3060ti?
Straight out destroys it
mossy venture
Its not far behind a 3080 in performance
obsidian wigeon
7700xt is about as fast as 4070
cyan ravine
But the 7800xt is better for $50
obsidian wigeon
almost
cyan ravine
Far better for $50
obsidian wigeon
fair tho
cyan ravine
Like, 10% more money, 20% more perf
simple cosmos
The only problem I have is that I like the look if the fractal case but if it comes down to price to performance should I just say F it?
potent portal
That's up to you
obsidian wigeon
^
potent portal
What's more important, looks or performance
obsidian wigeon
north is a good case
just pricey
so to pay more for looks or not is your choice
vague oracle
(problem is a white gpu is hard to find cheap so)
Waterblocks are cheap tho 
simple cosmos
Oh okay so if I'm not reading this wrong that fractal case should be able to stuff all of the components
cyan ravine
Yes
obsidian wigeon
yes
cyan ravine
But I would suggest a cheaper case
vague oracle
aliexpress
cyan ravine
The CC360 argb is good. The Nova M mesh argb is good
obsidian wigeon
unrelated but acer nitro v15 seems to use 75w 4050
not bad for an even cheaper nitro
simple cosmos
and all of this is windows 11 combadible?
obsidian wigeon
ye
potent portal
Can get all for fairly cheap, <:pepe_gun:931453947141554216>
If you call $300 cheap, that's more than the white tax usually, plus harder to find good blocks for lower end cards
cyan ravine
and all of this is windows 11 combadible?
Mhm
obsidian wigeon
works with win 11
simple cosmos
Alrighty thanks everyone I appreaciate the feedbackl have a good one
potent portal
I mean if it wasn't, windows would be terrible
*more terrible
cyan ravine
Oath
vague oracle
Smh, just use macos
potent portal
TempleOS master race
obsidian wigeon
i'd rather use nothing than mac os
cyan ravine
Meh I think it's still decent
obsidian wigeon
if im forced to
cyan ravine
Tell you what the m1 ipad is amazing
potent portal
Which means it's probably 85% in reality
obsidian wigeon
13450h+4050 75w, 16gb ddr5 and 144hz
vague oracle
Are you here to help or cause chaos
Itās 2am for me, what do you think? 
vague oracle
Tell you what the m1 ipad is amazing
Love my m1
cyan ravine
Itās 2am for me, what do you think? <:PepeBox:768454775972298805>
Drink
obsidian wigeon
idk, but reviews on my tuf a15 with claimed 100% is close to it
like 96%
either way it shouldn't be too bad
cyan ravine
idk, but reviews on my tuf a15 with claimed 100% is close to it
Ima be real
The screen is NOT
The selling point there
obsidian wigeon
im aware
vague oracle
My M1 is easily my favorite piece of tech
obsidian wigeon
i just like it cuz it's got colors that are easy on the eyes
obsidian wigeon
no eye fatigue at all
potent portal
M1 Abrams > M1 Mac
obsidian wigeon
qcomm is apparently making an arm soc for pc
snapdragon x or something
claims to beat apple's socs
the m2 stuff
vague oracle
Donāt make me come over there and take away your subway Felix
potent portal
qcomm is apparently making an arm soc for pc
It might be good on teeny netbooks but I don't see the real advantage in full form there
Netbooks mostly being ChromeOS
potent portal
Windows ARM edition sucks eggs
obsidian wigeon
or one of those samsung tablet/laptop thingies
lyric thistle
I WANT SUBWAY SO BAD BUT I'M TRYNA NOT EAT IT
lone flame
Right, the 7600 doesn't need more than a $20 air cooler at most
can confirm 
potent portal
lone flame
i might get an aio in the future tho, the fan makes some annoying noise under load
vague oracle
custom loop
cyan ravine
Air 4 lyf
potent portal
Or adjust the fan curve so it never hits that annoying frequency
If you think an AIO would be less annoying you're sorely mistaken. Pumps are often a lot louder than fans.
lone flame
I honestly want to do a full blackout build I think
Rgb is cool but Iām kinda getting over it
cyan ravine
YES
lone flame
COME TO THE SIDE OF PERFECT
I saw this the other day and Iām like 
plucky timber
the D15 is a good cooler
but it is also outdated
cheaper and more compact coolers that deliver similar performance have been out for a while
fossil cedar
Thing is whoever built that probs already had the d15 for ages ^
obsidian wigeon
ye
fossil cedar
And it's like 10 years old
plucky timber
true
jagged ember
I saw this the other day and Iām like <:pepehmmm:903335097305034783>
https://y...
Ew, the h5
cyan ravine
If it's the one that has the slide and a riser, yes that's decent
south cliff
If it's the one that has the slide and a riser, yes that's decent
is there a better one for the same price?
cyan ravine
Better? I mean if there's one specific to your case? Yes
The CM one is extremely versatile though
It's very good
south cliff
that one cost 100 tho
cyan ravine
It probably does
But that would be the objectively better one
Ez-diy fab has a couple options, including a tilt one
But not really recommended imo
south cliff
i get about 20 dollars off of the coolermaster one
cyan ravine
The CM one just caters to many cases so well due to the slider
south cliff
if i buy it off tiktok shop
cyan ravine
It's a good mount
south cliff
will my case not fit it?
cyan ravine
It's supposed to fit any atx case
At least the v2 definitely was
The slider lets you move the mount point, so you can have more space to fit cables through the pcie slots
So you can connect the dp and hdmi properly
Actually does the v3 have that? I have to check
It does
The clips on top are the slider adjustment
minor cypress
Do I have to use all 3 3x8 pin connectors on my GPU?
My PSU only came with 2 3x8 pin connector cables.
Itās the 7900xtx graphics card in case you wondering
The PSU I bought is 850W SFX
Actually I think Iām gonna have to buy a whole different PSU š¤¦š½āāļø
mossy venture
Itās the 7900xtx graphics card in case you wondering
What psu do you have
Cooler master v850 sfx?
Lian li sp?
On two white Sfx psus I know of
minor cypress
@mossy venture
mossy venture
Yep
Does it have two pcie power cables?
If so, just use the extra cable at the end of one of them. Two separate cables will be fine
south cliff
it should have two with a extinction
minor cypress
@mossy venture it came with 2 of these pig tail ones and then one straight 8 pin with no pig tail
mossy venture
The straight 8 pin is likely cpu power
Do not use that for your gpu
The pcie power, use two separate cables
And on one of the cables use the second 8 pin it has
south cliff
<@654444344274845698> it came with 2 of these pig tail ones and then one straigh...
use those for gpou straight for cpu
minor cypress
I heard itās not good to use both ends of the pig tail to plug into GPU because the wires might burn? Is that wrong @mossy venture @south cliff
mossy venture
it's not good, but it won't burn.
south cliff
I heard itās not good to use both ends of the pig tail to plug into GPU because ...
its perfectly fine
mossy venture
it's also not bad in this case
it's not good if for example you have a 2 pin 3080, and you use the pigtail
but for a 3 pin xtx, it's fine
south cliff
it's not good if for example you have a 2 pin 3080, and you use the pigtail
gulp i do that for my 6800
minor cypress
Whew š° @mossy venture ok dam I was about to buy a whole new PSU just now lol
minor cypress
though also, are you doing an itx build?
Sorry Iām still learning the pc world language lol.
Itx pertains to the motherboard type yeah?
minor cypress
My specs:
Case- O11 Lian Li mini dynamic
M/B- ASRock B650M Pro RS
@mossy venture basically looks like this
south cliff
looks nice
mossy venture
Ah nice
minor cypress
looks nice
Itās the one ive been working on for the past 5 days asking you and everyone in this discord to help me out together since itās my first ever Pc lol
south cliff
Itās the one ive been working on for the past 5 days asking you and everyone in ...
man i love a white build i wouldve went with a white build but it cost mroe
minor cypress
@mossy venture @south cliff I owe putting this build to you 2 guys and everyone in this discord for helping me out it together lol. I have yet to boot it up for the first time
Alright boys well Iāll hook up these cables and power it on for the first time! Wish me luck
south cliff
Good luck hope everything goes wonderful
@mossy venture do i need to connect the Front USB3.2 Gen2 Type-C
is that only fo the usb type c port on top of my case
becsaue i had it plugged in but they put it in a spot that is pretty far away so it kinda looks ungly so i unpluged it
minor cypress
Letās go! It works! @south cliff @mossy venture @cyan ravine @potent portal . You all helped me out this together. Took me 5 days but it came out nice!
mossy venture
Letās go! It works! <@883177420176363551> <@654444344274845698> <@10110795140145...
nice! glad it's working
south cliff
Letās go! It works! <@883177420176363551> <@654444344274845698> <@10110795140145...
nice now you know its working you can maybe go back over everything and make sure everything is pugged in correctly and maybe fix up some cable managment
teal dome
Hello guys
I need opinions
My friend wants to buy a pc from Best Buy only cuz his mom said so for some reason, and his budget is around 800 to 900
Are there any decent computers at that price at Best Buy?
US
I told him to build a pc but he doesnāt want because of his mom
mossy venture
My friend wants to buy a pc from Best Buy only cuz his mom said so for some reas...
not really
teal dome
not really
Ik man im telling him but he isnāt listening
south cliff
me personally i would prob just get a ps5 or xbox series x unless he wants to permently switch becasue unless he building his own i dont think there would be any pre build that could match the ptp opf the xbox or ps5
mossy venture
ill take a look but i doubt theres much
teal dome
me personally i would prob just get a ps5 or xbox series x unless he wants to pe...
He does YouTube so pc only
teal dome
ill take a look but i doubt theres much
Alright thank you
mossy venture
and while it is skytech https://www.bestbuy.com/site/skytech-gaming-blaze-3-0-gaming-desktop-pc-intel-core-i5-10400f-16g-memory-amd-radeon-rx6600xt-500g-ssd-white/6499428.p?skuId=6499428
south cliff
He does YouTube so pc only
still i would tell him that he should save
teal dome
still i would tell him that he should save
Same I might just tell him to wait and build his own honestly or buy my computer
south cliff
Same I might just tell him to wait and build his own honestly or buy my computer
what pc do you have
south cliff
he said his mom wont allow him or smt like that
teal dome
could build your own pc again with better specs too
Yeah
mossy venture
no if tech sold him his
south cliff
My friend wants to buy a pc from Best Buy only cuz his mom said so for some reas...
.
oh my bad yeah he could do that
start over
teal dome
Imma try convincing his mom and stuff
mossy venture
then technox could build a better pc than the one he just did for what he sells it for
south cliff
yeah i would do that
teal dome
Yeah I wanna upgrade to ddr5 ong
Imma convince him more and wait until he can build his own
Thanks guys
mossy venture
Yeah I wanna upgrade to ddr5 ong
there's a ddr5 kit on tiktok for like $50 after coupon
6000c38 iirc
which isn't hynix, but ddr5 32g and $50
teal dome
Well canāt get it now it depends if he wanna buy my pc XD
mossy venture
yeye
teal dome
Iām not overlocking any so itās fine
south cliff
i would get ddr5 but i would hae to switch motherboard
teal dome
i would get ddr5 but i would hae to switch motherboard
I meant like when I sell and get a new computer
south cliff
i know
mossy venture
yeah tech if you do, lmk i could set you up with a list again with tiktok
south cliff
fr
teal dome
Stock amd coolers make so much noise bro holy
Ok he talked to his mom and his mom said sheāll think about it
W
mossy venture
or you could also build him his own pc
teal dome
or you could also build him his own pc
I told him but he said he would wanna buy mine
Which is good for me cuz now I can make better decisions and make a better pc 
south cliff
actually w
mossy venture
Which is good for me cuz now I can make better decisions and make a better pc <:...
sick dude
main thing will be getting another well priced gpu
mossy venture
you'll still easily be able to build a better system with 800
south cliff
dude i remember when i bought a i5 9600k for 192 dollars still hirts to this day
teal dome
Main issue is the gpu tho they are all soooo expensive
Oops
I was looking at 4070 but itās 600 each lol
south cliff
lol you need to look at a 6700xt
teal dome
I donāt wanna get another 6700xt lol I wanna get something better
Maybe the 7000 generation
south cliff
you kinda cant unless you wanna up the budget maybe find a use 6800-6800xt
mossy venture
I was looking at 4070 but itās 600 each lol
520 or so
in an $800 build not likely
I'd say go for a used 6800xt
teal dome
If I can find a used 6800xt Iāll try finding
mossy venture
6900xt/6950xt/3080/6800 worth taking a look for too
south cliff
6900xt/6950xt/3080/6800 worth taking a look for too
i wouldnt say 6900xt or 6950xt
south cliff
eh, can find them for $450
where\
teal dome
300 for the rest of the parts
mossy venture
but would be cutting corners in other areas in an $800 build
teal dome
True
teal dome
I donāt wanna buy a non mod psu again
south cliff
i saw a 6900xt on hws a couple days ago
teal dome
Itās pain
south cliff
?
south cliff
your gonna have to save then
teal dome
Iām probably not gonna game as much anymore so imma just get a decent gpu and not the best
But weāll see
mossy venture
I'd say it would look something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHFDjH
mossy venture
Iām probably not gonna game as much anymore so imma just get a decent gpu and no...
then another 6700xt would be a good choice
very capable, will last a good while
teal dome
True
teal dome
I'd say it would look something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yHFDjH
Thatās nice
Anyways thank you
Imma head out and study
potent portal
7600 ddr5
You'll have to get pretty lucky to be able to run that. You will need a K CPU so you can change the SA voltage, and most CPUs lose stability randomly between 7000-7400 even on the best motherboards. Sure it'll be stable enough to run a test if you try a few times, but you'll be crashing in games with no explanation.
teal dome
You'll have to get pretty lucky to be able to run that. You will need a K CPU so...
No no I meant 7600 cpu and ddr5 ram
potent portal
Ohhhhh
teal dome
Myb
lone flame
If you think an AIO would be less annoying you're sorely mistaken. Pumps are oft...
fair, part of it is that this a 20 dollar air cooler the fan is prob cheapish
the full black like dual tower cpu coolers look so sick though'
never seen it go past like 55c under load so im assuming its doing fine though
gentle pollen
i can vouch for the p12s, they are very silent. I hate dealing with the rgb cables though,
pseudo pollen
expensive though (for the rgb ones)
mossy venture
C12c pog
potent portal
If you wanted rgb it's actually cheaper to get the c12c 3 pack
Even if you were only using one fan
gentle pollen
When I swap out my fans next time I am going SL-Infinities, I don't want to ever have to deal with daisy chaining dozens of fans ever again.
lone flame
whats the pump noise like on this guy
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07WNJCVNW?ref_=ast_sto_dp
mossy venture
I'm pretty sure lf2 is among the quietest aios
$140 is pretty pricey though
Notte 360 is $70 for at most 5c worse performance
potent portal
You could get the 420mm for $140. (it only fits in like 4 mainstream cases)
I'd recommend the 280mm if you really wanted the LFII, which is really only the best on high power AM4.
gentle pollen
whats the pump noise like on this guy
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Fre...
Be careful, the LFII 420 is slightly bigger then 420mm so it doesn't fit all cases.
potent portal
"Slightly" lol
Without modifications there's really only a few cases that fit it and they all cost a LOT
strong raft
YEa it's the same "slightly" over 420mm as most are, 15+mm for the tubes on the end of course. Another vote for a 280mm, not far off performance of a 360mm model anyways.
potent portal
YEa it's the same "slightly" over 420mm as most are, 15+mm for the tubes on the ...
458mm actually, so +38mm
It's larger than other 420s
Thicker too, the radiator is 38mm
strong raft
I knew that. more messing w/ apex since almost no rad is "420mm".
leaden mauve
"Slightly" lol
Without modifications there's really only a few cases that fit it...
My 900D 
gentle pollen
I am amazed the thing won't fit a Fractal Torrent without modding.
@fringe iris, awesome pc. š
What's the specs?
fringe iris
What's the specs?
12600k 4070 32gb ddr4 and z73 i also have (2) 2 TB nvme.. I would love to upgrade cpu but i think my pc is good right now lol 12600k is more than capable
gentle pollen
Pretty nifty setup. I am surprised you went D4 though,
burnt stratus
12600k 4070 32gb ddr4 and z73 i also have (2) 2 TB nvme.. I would love to upgrad...
12600k garbage, get 15900k
mossy venture
12600k garbage, get 15900k
15900k garbage, get threadripper 9995wx
burnt stratus
15900k garbage, get threadripper 9995wx
get rtx 9010
gentle pollen
š
halcyon olive
i need help lol my buddy has confused me, He is looking to build a PC that is primarily focused on home theater purposes such as streaming 4K content to his TV and storing photos and music. He also wants to copy his CDs in high resolution. Greg is not interested in fancy lighting and wants a good bang for the buck build that will provide audiophile sound quality. He doesn't play games and only wants something built from 2-3 years ago within a budget of $700 if possible.
potent portal
i need help lol my buddy has confused me, He is looking to build a PC that is p...
If you're doing 4k streaming you'll want, at minimum, a GPU at the performance level of a 1070. You can get those pretty cheap, the rest of the system is mostly inconsequential.
A $700 budget is doable with a used GPU, but how much storage are we looking at here? And what kind of audio setup?
mossy venture
Would arc be a good choice there?
potent portal
AV1 could be a nice feature, but I haven't seen too many transcode benchmarks from arc
Looks like A380 can transcode 4k to 4k at 43 fps, looking for lower source res benches
halcyon olive
If you're doing 4k streaming you'll want, at minimum, a GPU at the performance l...
Iām not sure what audio setup but I would like help on choosing , also around 2-6tb of storage (2tb of Ssd Nvme, 4tb HDD)
potent portal
Sadly I am not an audio guy so I can't really help pick out a system. If you had one in mind I could give you compatible hardware options for the PC but that's about it.
Only 6TB? Easy enough I think
mossy venture
I think 13400f/13500 would be a good choice?
potent portal
Way out of budget
potent portal
Gotta factor in storage
mossy venture
Yeah fair
Almost got it in https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cfCxgB
Though I'm not sure if the mobo has a bios flash button, might want a similarly priced b760 if going 13400f
potent portal
A580 should have some extra oomph for transcoding lower res to 4k
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t3vMCd
CPU is rather unimportant here
mossy venture
Oh I thought compiling was cpu, mb
potent portal
Compiling is CPU but streaming is not
mossy venture
Oh I don't know where tf I got compiling from I just reread the message
potent portal
Plus I snuck a 6TB HDD in there
That movie collection only gets bigger after all, I'm needing to add more to my 10TB server soon
mossy venture
Oh how is the apevia galaxy?
I'm on mobile and no ctrl f for tier list is annoying
potent portal
Apevia only has 2 units on the tier list, and that's not one of them
mossy venture
Oh I think you accidentally put it on your list then instead of the Prestige
potent portal
But realistically it'll only be running at 200W max
I can look for some load test results if it'll give you peace of mind lol
mossy venture
Oh nah I trust you just thought you accidentally added the wrong one
potent portal
Nope I picked cheap on purpose
fringe iris
Pretty nifty setup. I am surprised you went D4 though,
well i built the pc before 13 series and ddr5 was out haha thats why.. i had a 3070 i just recently got the 4090.. im slowly upgrading as I go
gentle pollen
well i built the pc before 13 series and ddr5 was out haha thats why.. i had a 3...
Gotcha. Keep up the good work.
potent portal
(which was still better than DDR4)
leaden mauve
lol
fringe iris
Gotcha. Keep up the good work.
Preciate it
fringe iris
ddr5 was definitely out with 12th gen
Well tbh when it came out i was looking for a cpu and not ram and im an idiot and didnt realize there was new ram š
lone flame
Well tbh when it came out i was looking for a cpu and not ram and im an idiot an...
what gpu do you have btw
the ring leds on the fans are cool
gentle pollen
Preciate it
Mind if I ask how your experience with the Lian Li SL-Infinity fans have been?
fringe iris
what gpu do you have btw
A gigabyte 4070 OC
fringe iris
Mind if I ask how your experience with the Lian Li SL-Infinity fans have been?
Really good actually, my temps are really good in my case and i love the colors and fans itself looks amazing
gentle pollen
How's the cable management? Aesthetics aside, the main reason I keep contemplating them is I don't want to keep spending two hours everytime I need to redo my rgb cabling.
weary galleon
If you're spending 2hrs to cable manage multiple times on the same rig maybe reconsider your cable management strategy
gentle pollen
If you're spending 2hrs to cable manage multiple times on the same rig maybe rec...
I constantly swap out parts in my system as I upgrade is the main issue, xD.
So I want to reduce the amount of time I spend on it.
I change parts roughly every 2-3 months? New ram, rgb strips, storage, etc.
fringe iris
How's the cable management? Aesthetics aside, the main reason I keep contemplat...
Really good actually, they dont have many cords tbh.. less than the fans I usually see with singles
little osprey
Well got paid $300 for a 3600X and 5700 rig
Mostly spare parts so only cost me like $150 to pull together what I didnāt have
drifting marten
finally got a car, now let's look to see what I can afford
cunning dome
Hello, I have a friend who wants to build a PC that is made for gaming and has a budget of $500. Thanks for any help.
little osprey
Hello, I have a friend who wants to build a PC that is made for gaming and has a...
Well got a few questions
Care about looks, need wifi, any priorities, care about going used for parts?
cunning dome
No, No, play siege, No
lethal tapir
That's pretty close, a used GPU instead would cut costs down significantly
And that's without any sales, I'm sure there's case+psu deals right now
mossy venture
Hello, I have a friend who wants to build a PC that is made for gaming and has a...
He would have to buy parts off of tiktok shop to get something worthwhile
Would he be able to?
That psu is known for catching fire
This would be on tiktok shop, buying each apart wirh a separate account because of the new user coupon, the prices are estimates. Can drop gpu to 6600/6600xt/6650xt https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BZN3wg
mossy venture
@cunning dome
lethal tapir
That psu is known for catching fire
Yikes my bad I just picked a cheap one. I guess you get what you pay for š¬š¬š¬
mossy venture
Yikes my bad I just picked a cheap one. I guess you get what you pay for š¬š¬š¬
No you're good, was just letting you know
mossy venture
<@815591073379909654>
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WYncxH this would be not on tiktok shop, and I'd do a used gpu.
Like 1080/ti, 5700xt, 2070/super, 3060 12gb, 6600/xt/6650xt/6700
Anything along those lines
cunning dome
Thank you
potent portal
Fair warning, games are starting to not support AMD 5000 and nvidia 10 series cards because they lack mesh shaders. Alan Wake 2 is a notable example.
It runs, but at like 20 fps on a GTX Titan X
mossy venture
Wow, good to know
The fact that a 1080 ti, which still holds its own compared to some current gen cards (7600 and 4060) isn't supported by some games is so weird
It feels like intentionally making things obsolete
potent portal
More like they're finally making use of the new features introduced 5 years ago
It takes about that much time for studios to catch up tbh
And now that the 3060 is the most common GPU on the Steam hardware survey instead of the 1060/1660 they can feel more secure in using those features without losing much of the player base
lethal tapir
Yeah it's pretty incredible how common the 1060s are
mossy venture
I'm just surprised the 3060 ti didn't take over the number one spot, with it being the best value 30 series cars
pseudo pollen
3060 is in basically every prebuilt though
mossy venture
Though the vram on the 3060 and people thinking that's better is also a factor
Yeah true
pseudo pollen
yk what's sad, my cousin built a $2000 pc, with a 4070
mossy venture
Pain
pseudo pollen
he could've asked for some help with picking the parts from me or my cousin, but he didn't
mossy venture
For the price of a 4090 you can do a full 7600 7900xtx build
pseudo pollen
yeah, but it's not going to be the best build
mossy venture
I mean, can do a pretty solid one for $1600
pseudo pollen
I mean if you don't have a budget
then a 4090 build will outperform everything, just at a cost. A very large cost
mossy venture
pseudo pollen
if it was my build, I would upgrade the cpu, but that's just because of the stuff I do on it
mossy venture
Ah fair
pseudo pollen
it just seems very unbalanced, with the one of worst cpus and best gpu from amd in the newest generation
mossy venture
I mean...
mossy venture
The 7600 doesn't really limit the xtx much in a lot of scenarios, especially at 4k
7500f yeah, it's just the 7600 but no igpu
pseudo pollen
most people don't play at 4k though because of diminishing returns of quality
mossy venture
For gaming 7600 is fine with an xtx, the 7800x3d would be noticeably better but just depends what the budget is
pseudo pollen
I'd want something with more cores
mossy venture
At 1440p it's often less than a 10% bottleneck from what I remember
pseudo pollen
still a bottleneck nonetheless
mossy venture
I'd want something with more cores
If you're doing more than gaming then yeah 13th or 14th gen is worth it
It's impossible for there not to be a bottleneck
pseudo pollen
13700k bundle from mc would probably be best
pseudo pollen
It's impossible for there not to be a bottleneck
Losing 10% of performance though is still a large amount
mossy venture
If you get a 7800x3d then you're losing performance of the cpu
Or 13700k
It's just a matter of what you're spending and what works best for what you're doing
jagged ember
There shall always be bottlenecks
mossy venture
If you need multi core perf, 13th gen cpu and 7900xt would make more sense
jagged ember
Whether it be hardware or software
Don't worry about those nearly as much
More important is the components own performance anyway
That's what you're going to notice the most
mossy venture
Basically, yes a better cpu would get more out of the gpu. But if you have to downgrade the gpu to get the better cpu, then there's not really any point
jagged ember
Unless you buy the cutting edge
But then you'll still be limited by the game's optimization
Which people don't really do anymore
gentle pollen
Really good actually, they dont have many cords tbh.. less than the fans I usual...
Ahh okay.
jagged ember
So really, no winning
gentle pollen
What do you do with the older stuff you replace?
Reuse it for extra pcs or sell it if I don't have a planned use case.
potent portal
I'm just surprised the 3060 ti didn't take over the number one spot, with it bei...
Miners bought them all
And since they were some of the early cards used most of them died
mossy venture
Miners bought them all
Ahh good point, that and 5700xt were crazy for mining
Iirc 60mh/s + at 120w or less on 3060 ti, and 58mh/s +/- at 90w or so on 5700xt
leaden raft
@mossy venture hi
mossy venture
alright so, first off what's your specs?
gpu, cpu, and do you have an ssd or hard drive?
leaden raft
5950x, 3070ti, 2x NVME 1tb, 36gb ddr3200 or 3600cl ram cant remember which
mossy venture
yeah plenty strong, what's the issue? you said applications are running slow, but whats happening?
is it just really laggy, choppy, is it just while gaming or is it with simple tasks like google too?
leaden raft
is it just really laggy, choppy, is it just while gaming or is it with simple ta...
it genuinely feels random
usually I have discord, spotify and one application goign
chrome if im doing homework
or a game if im gaming
mossy venture
for ram, have you enabled xmp in bios?
leaden raft
and seemingly randomly my screen with start to lag awful
mossy venture
and are you experiencing any crashes of anything or blue screens?
mossy venture
alright that's good
leaden raft
usually just goes too choppy its unbearable so i restart
mossy venture
alright, so first open windows defender and run a virus scan
leaden raft
do you want the sc of my hwinfo
mossy venture
if you type in security to windows search bar and open windows security, you can go from there
from there virus and threat protection
leaden raft
yup, scanning
42k files scanned no current threats
id like to think im pretty smart about my downloads
im not an ad clicker lol
trust pilot every website i download from at the very least
wait
my ram is way underclocked
wtf
if its cl3200 shouldnt it be at 3200mhz?
@mossy venture should I enable DOCP?
desert gulch
ddr in your ram stands for "double data rate" so if you see 1600 clock speed on that, youre already at 3200 technically
mossy venture
42k files scanned no current threats
sorry i had to go for a while, im back
1600mhz mean it's running at 3200mhz like he said
next run command prompt as administrator and type the commands
sfc/scannow
chkdsk
and then im gonna get one for you to copy and paste
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
mossy venture
kk
storm arrow
Okay noobie here the cpu pump fun does plug into the pump fan connection on the motherboard correct?
potent portal
Yes
pseudo pollen
That is for the display, and I think it plugs into a usb header
restive halo
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JchDZJ
Cheapest cpu, gpu combo for this. Already have these parts just going to make use out of the for the wife. Trying to stay under $300
Looking at just going 5700g honestly
But I know there are a lot of gpu deals
mossy venture
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JchDZJ
Cheapest cpu, gpu combo for this. Already ...
If gaming 5500 6600xt/6650xt, or 3600/3600x/3700x/5500/5600/x used with whatever used gpu you find
gentle pollen
Looking at just going 5700g honestly
5700G has served me pretty well.
gentle pollen
5700G has served me pretty well.
I get around 100fps 1080P in MW2 mid-high settings and similar frame rates in other games assuming they aren't large simulators.
restive halo
If gaming 5500 6600xt/6650xt, or 3600/3600x/3700x/5500/5600/x used with whatever...
$300 will work?
restive halo
5700G has served me pretty well.
What cooler do you use on it?
earnest olive
I get around 100fps 1080P in MW2 mid-high settings and similar frame rates in ot...
now do it with the igpu
earnest olive
Looking at just going 5700g honestly
please don't lol 5700g gets obliterated by CPU+GPU combos far below $300
earnest olive
can triple the performance of a 5700g with $100 on the right used deal
1060 6gb going for $40 now
1060 6gb laughs in the face of that 5700g
$60 probably gets you a 3600 for that b550 if you're patient
otherwise $70 does it easily
if you're trying hard enough you can squeeze a 6700xt into that budget
restive halo
please don't lol 5700g gets obliterated by CPU+GPU combos far below $300
Do you have any links? I don't by used because I don't feel like I know enough.
restive halo
Yes definitely
What are my options new and used? If you have time
earnest olive
that's fair, you can still do a lot better new though
if you want the best used deals you gotta be scouring the market in real time so that's not something we can easily help you with
all the best deals I've gotten were within 1 minute of posting
cause you're competing with people hustling to profit off of this stuff lol
when demand was higher I'd just toss together rigs out of good deals I found and sell them like that
got some tidy 120% profit margins on some of the really insane deals
mossy venture
What are my options new and used? If you have time
Cpus I listed above, 3600 would likely be your best option which I'd try to find one around $65, you can buy one new for $84
Anything better than a 3600 if you find it cheaper, why not
2600/x and 2700x wouldn't be bad, not sure what they'd cost
earnest olive
interesting 5500 is apparently out of stock rn
mossy venture
Gpu, 1070/ti, 1080/ti, 1660 super/ ti, 2060/s, 5600xt, anything higher
earnest olive
I'd avoid ryzen 2000
performance reasons aside, b550 boards don't officially support them so it's pretty hit or miss whether or not it boots
just avoid the headache when ryzen 3000 isn't expensive anyways
and is also a lot better
mossy venture
3600 good bit better anyways
earnest olive
remember all the 2700x vs 3600 debates back in the day lol
mossy venture
Can't say that I do lol, I wasn't into pcs till 202
I didn't even know what a cpu was in 2019
earnest olive
same
this was an ongoing debate in early 2020
which is when I got into pcs and bought a 3600x lol
I guess you started out by letting skytech make the choice for you so it wasn't relevant to you back then
mossy venture
Actually I'd say more like 2021 for me, since I bought my pre built in Dec 2020 and I still knew f all
earnest olive
ahh december
mossy venture
I guess you started out by letting skytech make the choice for you so it wasn't ...
Tbf though, I was going to make a custom build purely off of amazon
earnest olive
oh boy
mossy venture
So actually skytech was the better option lmao
earnest olive
corsair vengeance
mossy venture
I would've ended up with a 10400f and 1660 for $1200
mossy venture
Yeah I think towards the start
earnest olive
yeah uhh my friend paid 600 for a gtx 1650 off of amazon before I met her
mossy venture
I about gave the friend who was helping me an aneurysm
With how dumb I was being back then I'm surprised I can say I know more about pcs than he does now
mossy venture
How bad?
earnest olive
I don't know how she managed to get her 3600c18 xmp kit running at 1600 full auto timings with 800 synced fclk
and I don't want to know
mossy venture
Now that's just impressive
earnest olive
5900x @ 800 fclk + ddr4-1600 15-15-15 + incorrectly mounted cooler + backwards cpu fan + enough dust to coat a small village + $600 gtx 1650
I paid rent by overclocking her ram lol
mossy venture
Reading that is a jumpscare
earnest olive
tripled her fps in the only game she played despite the horrifying gpu bottleneck
mossy venture
What game?
earnest olive
val
mossy venture
Ah that makes sense
1650 can run high settings 144 fps iirc
I think 1050 ti is the recommended spec for that
earnest olive
boy let me tell you I was shocked when that corsair ram kit with a samsung c-die sticker turned out to be micron rev. e
mossy venture
I didn't even know corsair had Rev e kits
earnest olive
idk I got 150 fps at 1080p out of my 1gb dell radeon r5 240 in league lmao
dell is relevant there, the normal r5 240 uses 2gb ddr3 but for some reason dell made a variant with 1gb gddr3
mossy venture
Dell things
earnest olive
clocks higher but half the capacity
I guess they just had a surplus of old gddr3 lying around and figured they'd use it on some cheap display adapters
little osprey
Yāall think this comes with a support bracket?
Only three fan card thatāll fit in my case
lethal tapir
I've only seen support brackets come with motherboards
mossy venture
<@654444344274845698> <@122901618369757184> 5700xt $175 and 2700x 109.99
No on both
Sips said to avoid 2000 series since b550, aim for 3600/3600x/3600xt/3700x
3300x would be fine if it's cheap
Assuming usd, 5700xt shouldn't cost over 150
restive halo
Oh OK sorry
mossy venture
No you're fine
Sorry if I came off rude didn't mean to
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MBkRwc this is what I had for new
If you can order off tiktok shop you might be able to do cheaper
restive halo
No your fine. I just apologized. I don't like wasting people's time or making them repeat information if its not necessary
Tiktok shop?
little osprey
I've only seen support brackets come with motherboards
I'm trying to find a 7800 XT that's black and fits in my case
I'm looking at a Sapphire one and the Gigabyte one I just posted earlier
lethal tapir
Right I just don't think they come with support brackets
lethal tapir
Might have to get a watercool setup for the card and support it that way
That's a bit extreme but hey
Or just stack pennies and tape
3d print a stylized support brick
gentle pollen
What cooler do you use on it?
Really anything works on it tbh. I paired it with a 3070 just to be clear. I would not recommend iGPU gamming.
little osprey
I might as well just grab the Gigabyte 7800 XT and see how that sits
lethal tapir
At 320mm there's only 3 cards on newegg
The nitro+ the sapphire pure and the asus tuf
The steel legend is smaller
haughty zodiac
ä½ ä»¬å„½
earnest olive
Anything before 3000 series AMD is ewaste
I mean... there's still a right price
vague oracle
$25 at most imo
earnest olive
$40 2700x + $30 b350 + $30 32gb garbage ddr4 = decent cheap $100 server or something
$10 display adapter?
bad idle power draw though
anyways, not ewaste yet at least
$110 is definitely not the right price though lol
earnest olive
I might as well just grab the Gigabyte 7800 XT and see how that sits
you really don't need an included support bracket
can always just buy one or use something you have lying around that happens to fit
I used to run my 1080ti supported by a box of mechanical pencil graphite
pseudo pollen
*cough cough* ~~ <#555881495492034561> #2~~ *cough*
I literally just said what
potent portal
That's why it wasn't an actual warning
pseudo pollen
sullen spoke
south cliff
Picking up the valve index up for 500 im super happy from coming from the quest 2
vague oracle
@earnest olive I bought a Z270 Apex
south cliff
Will my rx 6800 be enough for vr on the index at 144hz'
potent portal
Should be for most games
earnest olive
<@122901618369757184> I bought a Z270 Apex
you know what comes next
mod it and insert 9900KS
vague oracle
With the way the 7600k delid went, itās a possibility
Not sure if I killed it
I think I did tho
earnest olive
no
I was in a physics class with my friend who worked in IT
and he brought in 3 retired 6700K office PCs
prof and I were chill
so I was sitting there in the physics lab watching his demonstration while absentmindedly disassembling the PCs and delidding the 6700Ks
vague oracle
I wish I still had my 6700k
earnest olive
I was getting some interesting looks
vague oracle
You still got any for me? Lol
earnest olive
only one of the three pcs was for me
vague oracle
Smh
earnest olive
one was for the guy's sister and one was for our mutual friend
he just wanted me to help delid them
I think he was expecting me to delid them after lab rather than during lol
we got a 100% on that lab too
but yeah, $12 delid tool from amazon makes it so safe to delid that you don't even need to look at the cpu while delidding it
vague oracle
I shouldāve just gotten a delid tool
earnest olive
I lost that tool but I got some pretty good mileage out of it
it's probably in my house somewhere still
$12 delidded 10 cpus, $1.20 per delid lol
xeon e3-1241v3
i7-4770K
i5-6600K
i7-6700K x3
i7-7700K x3
i7-8700K
earnest olive
I no longer own any of those cpus
you know me alec
hardware exits my hands as quickly as it enters them
mossy venture
Hey just like Linus, he's just dropping it though
mossy venture
Does dropping a screwdriver on my motherboard count
And not a small one like you'd use for an m.2 screw
earnest olive
did it cause damage
vague oracle
hardware exits my hands as quickly as it enters them
Smh
gentle pollen
How much does Black Friday usually affect prices on Amazon? Please ping when replying, ty.
lone flame
How much does Black Friday usually affect prices on Amazon? Please ping when re...
Depends on parts, but from what Iāve seen last year when I was thinking about building a PC is fhat (gpu wise) lower prices will slowly climb in the weeks before bf, and when it actually comes it drops back down to the original
A good example rn is prob the 7900 XT imo, it was like 710-720ish a few weeks ago
Itās back up to 799ish now, and will prob drop again back to 720ish fo make it look like a deal
That probably doesnāt answer your question now thinking about it but
plucky timber
I dropped a ram stick once
š
ended up getting a 16GB stick
because i wanted more ram
so i had 8 + 16GB
not ideal
but it was still a upgrade since at the time i was playing ram intensive games
that was back in like 2020
empty pollen
How much does Black Friday usually affect prices on Amazon? Please ping when re...
nothing, black friday is a commercial scheme.... prices usually goes up one month before bf, so in bf prices will drop to normal values so it will look like a deal to you
austere parrot
hey guys i just got the ryzen 9 5900x... i have a x570 aorus elite wifi (upgrading board soon) ... what is the best ram i can get ? i rarely game, but i am a graphic designer (mostly illustrator and photoshop - will start video editing soon).... next what is the best board i can get ... im not to familiar with hardware, im getting so many different answers online
fossil cedar
hey guys i just got the ryzen 9 5900x... i have a x570 aorus elite wifi (upgradi...
Upgrading the motherboard will be the biggest waste of money, only reason to upgrade motherboards realistically is if you're upgrading cpu and moving sockets or if the board is actually broke
empty pollen
id say some 64gb of 3200c16 ram sticks
fossil cedar
Depending on the video editing resolution etc, 128gb could be an option
austere parrot
id say some 64gb of 3200c16 ram sticks
what brands should i choose
fossil cedar
But if going 64gb get a 2x32gb kit so you can upgrade if you want
empty pollen
64 and then upgrade from that
fossil cedar
what brands should i choose
Doesn't matter they're all the same realistically, the best ram to get is the cheapest for the speed and size you want
empty pollen
still me thinks that he wants our expert opinion on brands and prices
you are da man pato
fossil cedar
Only 3 companies actually make the ram, everyone else just puts the heatspreaders on them
empty pollen
however.... unless you are willing to buy now then we can only suggest, cause prices wildly changes from day to day
austere parrot
Doesn't matter they're all the same realistically, the best ram to get is the ch...
thanks guys i appreciate this ... i have the patriot viper steel at the moment... looking to up from 16gb cards to 4 32gb cards, but i keep hearing brands like G.Skill Trident Z Neo , etc
austere parrot
Only 3 companies actually make the ram, everyone else just puts the heatspreader...
ohhh okay cool cool
empty pollen
patriot are good ones, gskill too
austere parrot
however.... unless you are willing to buy now then we can only suggest, cause pr...
yes im looking to buy within a few hours .. not sure if i should stick with patriot or try soemthing on here https://www.cgdirector.com/best-pc-for-photo-editing/
fossil cedar
thanks guys i appreciate this ... i have the patriot viper steel at the moment.....
Brand doesn't matter when it comes to most things pcs, but especially ram because the only companies that actually make ram are samsung, (sk) hynix and micron
Every ram companies just buys from them and wacks a piece of metal or plastic on it ^
fossil cedar
yes im looking to buy within a few hours .. not sure if i should stick with patr...
Are you in the US?
austere parrot
patriot are good ones, gskill too
sorry wrong link i meant to send this one https://whatifgaming.com/best-ram-for-ryzen-9-5900x/
and yes NJ
fossil cedar
@austere parrot https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yRQcCJ/mushkin-enhanced-redline-stiletto-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-mrf4u320gjjm32gx2
They're the best value for 64gb atm
empty pollen
you can start with those, 2x32 that pato linked
and if somehow in the future you feel the need for more, then you buy an extra 2x32
austere parrot
Brand doesn't matter when it comes to most things pcs, but especially ram becaus...
i appreciate you guys big time ! i may just stick with https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08688GFPD?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 the patriot for a few bucks more... ive had them for about 3 years now , and i just feel good about it .. lol
guys i may have just one more question before i have to head out for work
maybe two actually .... gpu ? im running a gt 750 ti at the moment because my toddler accidently dropped my evga 3060 when i had it out for cleaning
empty pollen
thats a nice card, i have one as well š
fossil cedar
i appreciate you guys big time ! i may just stick with https://www.amazon.com/d...
The ones you linked me too show out of stock and 3600mhz cl18 for me, at those high speeds you're better off running at 3200mhz just because the more ram you have the harder it is to run a stable high frequency
fossil cedar
i appreciate you guys big time ! i may just stick with https://www.amazon.com/d...
So it'd be these but theres honestly 0 difference
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vPLwrH/patriot-viper-steel-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-pvs464g320c6k
austere parrot
i believe they are out of stock but can get them individually... but thank you for the info im trying to learn and take this all in ... im super stoked to have fround this group ... ive been busting my brain for DAYS
austere parrot
So it'd be these but theres honestly 0 difference
https://pcpartpicker.com/prod...
okay great .
fossil cedar
i believe they are out of stock but can get them individually... but thank you f...
Getting them individually isn't the best idea
empty pollen
you always get them in pairs
austere parrot
i have an oppurtunity to get an rx 570 8gb for like 60 bucks ,,, or should i get something like the 3060 again
austere parrot
Getting them individually isn't the best idea
deff more expensive... but at the moment i just care to gas it up really quick, so i can blow through a few pc gigs , i dont want to wait for restocks
austere parrot
you always get them in pairs
okay thank you
empty pollen
that depends on your needs, the rx570 is a tad better than the 750ti, but still way underpowered compared to a 3060, 60 bucks is a great price for that card tho, but older af
austere parrot
that depends on your needs, the rx570 is a tad better than the 750ti, but still ...
okay i guess i have somethings to think about . i dont care to blow the bank right now but i would deff like this pc to MOVVEEE
empty pollen
well, if you have more time later you can ask the guys here aagain on your gpu dilemma, but you need to help us with how much money are you willing to spend on your gpu and the resolution you will be using it
depending on your budget we can point you in the right direction
austere parrot
depending on your budget we can point you in the right direction
i appreciate this ! ... im not to sure about budget , maybe 300 350 tops
i dont really like used parts but im open to them from amazon this time? hmm not sure
empty pollen
you can get a 6700xt brand new at about 300usd these days
a tad better than a 3060ti
however if you use apps like blender then you should get the 3060ti at about 320-350
austere parrot
my last question before i have to run... this is my current setup in a nut shell : x570 aorus elite wifi - 5900x & Thermalright Frozen Notte 240 - 750ti - 3 nvme drives (p41 sk hynix 1tb - 500gb firecuda 520 - and a super cheap 1tb crucial nvme ) what should my psu be?
austere parrot
a tad better than a 3060ti
thanks a bunch !! been seing and wondering about the 6700 and the 3060ti
empty pollen
650w can work just fine on that setup including the 6700/60ti, 750w if you want some spare
austere parrot
i try so hard to figure this out and just go in loops , believe me guys im not lazy ! lol ... i most deff appreciate your help. i was in another server for almost a month and couldnt get this much help/info
austere parrot
650w can work just fine on that setup including the 6700/60ti, 750w if you want ...
niiiceee ! you guys rock !!! i appreciate it
obsidian wigeon
rx 570 is much faster than 750ti, but that's besides the entire discussion above anyway
empty pollen
indeed, on par with a 1060
austere parrot
rx 570 is much faster than 750ti, but that's besides the entire discussion above...
yes i believe so as well i was just playing with one for about 2 weeks ... gave it back to my litle brother .. looking to repurchase one of my own . thank you 1
empty pollen
for 60 bucks is a good deal
austere parrot
for 60 bucks is a good deal
its xfx branded , should it matter .. 8gb
fossil cedar
deff more expensive... but at the moment i just care to gas it up really quick, ...
No like it's a bad idea because technically sticks are only rated to run at their xmp speeds in their kit, so best chance of them running fine is getting a 2x32gb kit then another 2x32gb kit because a 1x32gb stick would have a higher chance of being unstable
austere parrot
No like it's a bad idea because technically sticks are only rated to run at thei...
oooohhh wow ! thanks i didnt realize
empty pollen
brands most of the time only matter for aesthetics, most of them are on ok standards
obsidian wigeon
maybe you can find rx 480/580 for that much tho
fossil cedar
For video editing, something like the 3060 (make sure it's the 12gb, the 8gb one is a scam) is actually one of the best options still especially on a budget
empty pollen
according to pcpp there are 3060tis are 320-350
obsidian wigeon
ah video editing
fossil cedar
Would be a huge upgrade if for that ^ over any of the amd cards tbh
obsidian wigeon
yeah nvidia by default lol
fossil cedar
according to pcpp there are 3060tis are 320-350
Ye but the extra vram ACC means 3060 can be better
empty pollen
the 3060 12gb is the winner
austere parrot
okay great!.. guys i appreciate you all . BIIG time , but im pressing my luck now lol ive got to get on the road... ill be back, hopefully not with so many questions lol ... thanks again guys ... have a blessed day you all !
empty pollen
have a nice day and drive safely š
fossil cedar
No problems happy to help
gentle pollen
nothing, black friday is a commercial scheme.... prices usually goes up one mont...
rip.
lethal tapir
Thank God for the Honey extension
manic cloak
Anyone here know about polaroid cameras?
devout yacht
Question, when anyone takes a look at this list of components https://newegg.io/ce08c7d is there anything you would radically change? or is there anything missing on the list to complete the build? Like am I still missing some power cables or internal cables?
mossy venture
Question, when anyone takes a look at this list of components https://newegg.io/...
Yeah thats pretty expensive for what you're getting
What are you using the pc for?
vague oracle
Yeah for $2k you probably can fit a 4080
devout yacht
mostly gaming and streaming
mossy venture
Can fit an xtx in $1600
Alright few follow up questions
Are you absolutely dead set on an LCD display on the aio
Or did you just throw that aio in
Bc corsair aios are really expensive and aren't great
devout yacht
no every part is changeable
mossy venture
Kk cool
Is there a certain look you're going for?
I saw the aios white, and the ram is rgb
devout yacht
but budget is around 2000-2200$ and yes just a clean look either black or white
mossy venture
I'm assuming white + rgb with a glass side panel
Oh even easier
Do you need wifi or are you using ethernet
devout yacht
wifi is essential yes
mossy venture
Alright perfect, just a few min
Wait I lied one more question
What do you think of this mobo ASRock B650 LiveMixer ATX AM5 Motherboard (B650 LiveMixer) - PCPartPicker
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ckhFf7/asrock-b650-livemixer-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-livemixer looks wise
It's a really good mobo but it doesn't really fit the black or white aesthetic
So if you don't like it there's plenty of other options
Actually nvm a diff mobo is on sale too
devout yacht
yea this one screams a bit too much for my taste š
even though i reckon with RGB you could actually get a quite cool effect inside the case
mossy venture
I can give a couple other options but I gotta drive first
Aio isn't needed at all btw
214xt would be plenty
White option https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NVTBvj
No good white psu at a reasonable price though, might want extensions since black cables w white build
devout yacht
these are great suggestions thank you!
besides these parts lists, would you normally order stuff power cables / internal cables etc? or is that all usually included in the components delivered parts?
like would you normally order thermal paste too?
potent portal
All the cables you need are included, you can get extensions or replacement cables if you want a certain look like colored or RGB cables.
The cooler includes thermal paste
potent portal
No good white psu at a reasonable price though, might want extensions since blac...
You can absolutely run a X3D and XTX off a 750W
devout yacht
Thanks Fal'cie
mossy venture
You can absolutely run a X3D and XTX off a 750W
Yeah true I forgot to look at 750s, ty
mossy venture
Thanks Fal'cie
Ok just got home, one more list that's purely price/perf (and cheaper) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4DHh9c
devout yacht
thank you for all this effort Bacca š this is great
mossy venture
Np! It's weird but I actually enjoy making them
It's like a challenge to make the best list for your needs/budget, its fun
jagged ember
Weirdo non-techie
pseudo pollen
It's like a challenge to make the best list for your needs/budget, its fun
I used to do it a few hours every day and it was so exhausting in another server, probably bc I was dealing with 11yr olds who are diehard o11d fans
plucky timber
I used to do it a few hours every day and it was so exhausting in another server...
Same
In my case I was dealing with broke kids that don't understand that spending a bit more on a power supply means their pc won't blow up and then they'll have to spend more money to replace it
Nothing wrong with being broke but like
Better to save up and get a good psu than get a crap psu
pseudo pollen
For the people I was dealing with, they usually understood when I said it would blow up, but for the rest of the parts most of them would be Corsair fanboys without even trying their parts
pseudo pollen
Not just value, part quality as well
pseudo pollen
They'd want like i7/gt730 builds with Corsair rgb
pseudo pollen
Corsairs makes good psu
Some of them yeah
plucky timber
Some of them yeah
CX Green š
pseudo pollen
Peripherals too if I can get them at a good price
plucky timber
Nice
plucky timber
They'd want like i7/gt730 builds with Corsair rgb
Doesn't the 730 get outperformed by the intel hd?
pseudo pollen
Yeah
plucky timber
ahahah
It hurts me to see $1000 lists with like a 1060 when it could've fit a 1070
All because it had like 6 corsair rgb fans
pseudo pollen
1070 in a 1k build š
plucky timber
Time period is around 2018-2020
pseudo pollen
I've mostly done recent lists around 2021-2022
plucky timber
yeah I haven't done lists in a while
pseudo pollen
in techsource discord server
plucky timber
I'm really rusty
pseudo pollen
Yeah, I took a long break from making lists
I just pop in from time to time to help out
plucky timber
It takes a lot of market and hardware knowledge to make a good list
pseudo pollen
I see some new guys in there every once in a while giving out some really crappy advice
plucky timber
Oh god
pseudo pollen
This one guy was convinced that the 10700k was better then a 13600k
plucky timber
I'm really glad that this server's got some really knowledgeable people when it comes to parts lists
pseudo pollen
agreed, probably because it's a smaller server too
plucky timber
This one guy was convinced that the 10700k was better then a 13600k
lol he never googled "10700k vs 13600k benchmarks"
pseudo pollen
he said it had more cores or some crap like that
plucky timber
I mean
pseudo pollen
"better for most things"
plucky timber
What was he doing with the cpu tho
plucky timber
Cores might be valid if his use case could utilise all the cores
oh
If it's gaming then no
pseudo pollen
10700k has like 8 cores I think
hold on
yeah 8 cores for 10700k and 13600k has 14
plucky timber
ahahhaha
pseudo pollen
so no argument is valid
pseudo pollen
I'm gonna spend some time and see where that convo was
it was about a year ago iirc
sometime there
It's gonna take me a while
summer sun
can someone help me with my build i need to make sure i wont run into any compatability issues
maybe some pointers
pseudo pollen
Go ahead and ask
pseudo pollen
I have to go so ping me with the update
found the guy
teal dome
Where do I find a f-usb connector on my motherboard
pseudo pollen
look at the manual
it's front usb, and for usb 3 it's usually on the right side of the mobo
pseudo pollen
found the guy
I got more
teal dome
it's front usb, and for usb 3 it's usually on the right side of the mobo
Not there
I saw and thereās no pictures
pseudo pollen
what mobo you got? and what case
pseudo pollen
k hold on
teal dome
Iām trynna connect my WiFi
pseudo pollen
wifi card?
teal dome
Ye
teal dome
Also for Bluetooth
pseudo pollen
it should be on the bottom of the mobo, next to the hd audio I think
teal dome
It says for Bluetooth need to connect f usb
Where?
Also itās alright if I remove the gpu right?
Iāll put it back
teal dome
Yea
pseudo pollen
to something else anyways
teal dome
Is there one more
pseudo pollen
hold on
pseudo pollen
it's just front usb 2
teal dome
it's just front usb 2
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