#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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BOMB BOMB BOMB

mossy venture
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Do you want an aio?

mossy venture
minor cypress
mossy venture
minor cypress
little osprey
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Yippee

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Gamer light

mossy venture
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Could fit a 4090 in budget potentially but would have to abandon a lot of aesthetics and QOL

minor cypress
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@mossy venture ohhhh those are both nice. Thank you I’m going to save both. I’m excited cause this will be my first ever gaming Pc !

little osprey
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Sick

mossy venture
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That's great! Do you have a monitor already?

minor cypress
mossy venture
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Yeah I'd get an upgrade with how much you're looking to spend lol

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Do you want some suggestions?

minor cypress
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I have one I was looking at lmk what you think gimme sec

mossy venture
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Btw you could also save money on the lists by switching cpu to 7600, if you decide to

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It's still a fine pairing with an xtx

minor cypress
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@mossy venture what do you think about this one? It’s on sale

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mossy venture
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I wouldnt recommend it

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Oled is nice but imo it's kinda silly until you're getting top, top of the line components. Especially with this being your first pc I'd go for something cheaper

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Do you want a big monitor, 32-34"?

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I prefer 27" personally but everyone's different

minor cypress
mossy venture
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War pig likes his 49" Samsung monitor

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Kk sounds good, I'll grab you a few suggestions then I gotta run

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Alright so first, 1440p 240 hz suggestions

minor cypress
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That first option looks nice

mossy venture
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All of those are great choices, I gotta run though but if you'd like me to in a little bit I can give a rundown of the differences between the options

minor cypress
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@mossy venture thank you bacca! I’m gonna add you if you don’t mind in case I have future questions

mossy venture
flint sapphire
mossy venture
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Atp I'd rather just go 4k

round cloud
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New PC has been crushing it 👍🏻
Might start eyeing an upgrade from my acer 1440

mossy venture
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What would you be upgrading to?

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4k?

round cloud
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Not sure, in no rush. I’d like 4K for single player games and stuff. But still want a good non massive monitor for gaming.

Curious to how much more perceived quality I can get while staying at 27”

mossy venture
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4k at anything less than 31.5 in is silly imo, but lemme find you some options

round cloud
mossy venture
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I'd say the best options for 4k are m28u and m32u right now

round cloud
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🤔

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Might wait for Black Friday.

golden forge
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Is there any reason to wait another month or two to get a 4080 GPU? Price wise, that is (holiday season). I’d be upgrading from a 2080ti.

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No word on 5000 series, right?

mossy venture
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5000 series I think is late 2024 early 2025

manic cloak
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Worth?

pseudo pollen
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I'd say no, but personal preference

viral horizon
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i was thinking of getting a optical drive, or a dvd drive for my gaming pc

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could it be possible to connect the dvd drive of a playstation or xbox and put it in your gaming pc to play playstation or xbox games on pc?

plucky timber
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If there's an emulator for your console

viral horizon
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i just dont wanna have to rebuy all of them for pc

plucky timber
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Yeah well

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That's the problem with switching to pc

viral horizon
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but yeah an emulator could work

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yeah

plucky timber
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What console?

viral horizon
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a playstation

plucky timber
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Which

viral horizon
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ps

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4

plucky timber
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No way

viral horizon
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damnit

plucky timber
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You're gonna have to either use the ps4 or re buy the games

viral horizon
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yeah ill just use the ps4

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also my family uses it too

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so ill just rebuy the games

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besides its not that many

plucky timber
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Buy them on sale

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If you can

viral horizon
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steam is pretty generous with those

plucky timber
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The cost of migrating to pc will be offset overtime with pc sales

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Look on humble bundle too

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Sometimes they have really good deals

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In the long run it'll be cheaper than owning a console

viral horizon
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yeah

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only thing that will suck is that i cant get ps4 exclusive

plucky timber
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They get ported gradually

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But still it's pretty slow

viral horizon
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but hey whats spiderman or god of war worth it if i can play 5x faster and better

plucky timber
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But still since you got the ps4 you can still play those games

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So

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You're not losing out

plucky timber
viral horizon
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besides i can use xbox due to my os being windows

viral horizon
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crap i guess ill get it sometime

plucky timber
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viral horizon
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thanks man

plucky timber
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Yeah there's a lot of ps4 exclusive being ported to pc

viral horizon
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nice nice

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alright look i gotta go

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i have scouts soon

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see you man thank you

plucky timber
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alright

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See ya

sterile path
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hey anyone can give me feedback on this build, the weird price are because a lot of componant are in bundle, the motherboard, ram and CPU are togehter and the PSU, case and cooler are in an other https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XvNvjH

mossy venture
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Also what are you using the pc for

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Bc if you're gaming you can do a lot better for the price

little osprey
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Uh oh

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Evangelion fan

sterile path
mossy venture
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Ahh ca.pcpartpicker

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When using pcpartpicker I just assume US for the most part

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That looks good then

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Wait you did use ca.pcparpticker

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I'm just blind lmao, mb

sterile path
mossy venture
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Nah I thought that was USD

sterile path
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hahah ok

mossy venture
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Which you could do 7900xtx 7600 for $1600 something usd

sterile path
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the lowest 7900xtx is 1120$ cad

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compare to the current 740$ card, i couldve gone with a 716$ red devil 7800XT but the perf gains are slight and NVIDIA got better AI thingy imo, like raytracing and waht not

little osprey
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EW

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NVIDIA SHILL

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GET OUT

sterile path
little osprey
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But in all seriousness that Nvidia frame gen BS is just a joke

mossy venture
sterile path
little osprey
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RT means nothing for eSports

mossy venture
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But either is good

teal dome
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@mossy venture got ram today, ordered apevia psu and montech air 100 case

mossy venture
south cliff
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Ok I got my nv5 built it

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Got everything working but the light bar at the bottom isn’t working

pseudo pollen
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make sure it's plugged in

rustic linden
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hey guys, just had a question and wanted a second opinion. I bought a case that i didnt realize uses molex fan cable instead of the normal fan header that goes into your motherboard. In this case was this the correct things to buy for it? https://www.newegg.com/p/1W7-003E-00027?Item=9SIACJF6N99514

pseudo pollen
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The molex should come with your psu, but most don't. I'd reccomend just getting some cheap replacement fans if you can that are pmw

rustic linden
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it is a nonmodular psu

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so is that newegg product the correct transfer cable from molex to fan header?

pseudo pollen
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It wouldn't work, since it's a male connector that's meant to plug into a psu

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actually, that's meant to convert molex into an 8 pin gpu plug

rustic linden
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so it wouldn't work?

pseudo pollen
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Yeah, it's the wrong usage

rustic linden
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ok imma cancel the order than

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what cable do i get?

pseudo pollen
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so you want to get molex to power your fans, correct?

rustic linden
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yes to plug into the mobo

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i want to get a converter

pseudo pollen
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to plug into the mobo? how many fans do you have

south cliff
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Nvm it’s working

rustic linden
south cliff
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Bro I got blood on my psu cables

pseudo pollen
# rustic linden 4

Okay, something like that would be weird to use and probably bad quality

gentle pollen
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xD.

pseudo pollen
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so you don't have to get some janky adapters that would probably cause a fire

rustic linden
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alr

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so there isnt any use for these fans that have a molex cable?

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unless i use a modular psu?

mossy venture
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Just depends on the psu

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Some non mod psus have molex connectors

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Molex is just kinda dead tech atp though

pseudo pollen
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well, there are uses, and you can get them to run, but they'll be at basically max speeds all the time.

rustic linden
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i bought the case with them pre installed

pseudo pollen
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plus in your use case, with no direct molex connection, you'd have to get a bunch of adapters, which would cost as much as just getting new fans

pseudo pollen
rustic linden
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alr thx

south cliff
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my fans are ramping up for no reason i got them connectred to a fan hub

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connected

pseudo pollen
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change fan curve

south cliff
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i just put it on silent

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in bios

pseudo pollen
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mine did that at first, you just need to adjust some settings

pseudo pollen
south cliff
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in what

pseudo pollen
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bios

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not on silent mode, just change it to see what fits

south cliff
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also how to i change the light bar

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at the bottom

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its just white

pseudo pollen
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signal rgb or something like that

south cliff
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alr

pseudo pollen
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motherboard software works too

south cliff
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it doesent show

pseudo pollen
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is it connected to mobo?

south cliff
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ye

pseudo pollen
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weird

south cliff
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i think it was just the argb connector right

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?

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to change color

pseudo pollen
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yeah

south cliff
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yeah i plugged that in

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ima go cahnge fan curve brb

pseudo pollen
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alr

lone flame
mossy venture
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Xfx tends to be pretty good, I wouldn't spend that much for it when 7800xt can be had $500 (or lower with tiktok shop)

south cliff
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alright the fan curve thig didnt help

lone flame
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As in just raw gaming performance

south cliff
lone flame
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Doesn’t anything get fsr 3 now

south cliff
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no its not even out

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might just be for the 7000 series

lone flame
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They said it was backwards compatible

lone flame
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I’m not sure myself tbh

mossy venture
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Believe so yeah

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With 6950xt at $630, it's not a worthwhile upgrade from 6700xt

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7800xt would honestly be better

potent portal
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Plans are for it to work as far back as the 10 series nvidia and 5000 series AMD iirc

lone flame
teal dome
mossy venture
teal dome
mossy venture
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Crazy, great build dude

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So prolly closer to $425 before tax?

teal dome
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Yeah

teal dome
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First time building so I’m nervous

mossy venture
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I'd recc following a tutorial on YouTube

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Robeytech has a decent one

teal dome
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Alright

mossy venture
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But I'll answer any questions I can, if you have any

teal dome
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Aight

mossy venture
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I've not really built much, so some things with building I can't really answer

teal dome
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I might need help during me putting my motherboard and everything in the case honestly

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I’m just kinda nervous rn because I don’t know what screwdrivers I need for my motherboard and case

mossy venture
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Just a Philips head is fine

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Might need a really small one for your m.2, but could use like a paperclip or smthn if you don't have one

teal dome
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I need to buy

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Or ask friend

mossy venture
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If you need to buy could probably find one for like $5-10

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Or be boujie and buy an electric screw driver (not a drill) for $20 or so

teal dome
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Yeah probably I need to go to my hardware store near my house

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I need your opinion.

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Should I build it with the psu? Which comes on Sunday or wait until Tuesday for the case

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So annoying all the cases have huge delivery times

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Also I don’t have a band or something to ground myself, what surface should I use to build

mossy venture
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As long as you're safe it's fine to do it w/o the case

mossy venture
teal dome
mossy venture
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Counter?

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Desk?

potent portal
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teal dome
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Imma remove the old monitor

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teal dome
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Is that space enough to build@it on

potent portal
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How big is the table

teal dome
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Ignore the mess

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My current setup 💀

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So ass

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I’ll prob clear all that

potent portal
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If the case isn't too huge yeah that should be fine, assuming it's cleared

teal dome
teal dome
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Of the table

potent portal
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Yep

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I recommend having something magnetic to hold your screws

teal dome
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I have magnets lmao

potent portal
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Perfect

teal dome
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look behind my laptop kekw

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I hope I find the right screwdriver

potent portal
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A standard philips #2 is usually all you need

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As for the M.2 screw, I've done that one with just my finger before

teal dome
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YO LETS GOO

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ITS ph1 and ph2

potent portal
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It's not like it needs to be super tight, it just needs to hold the drive down

teal dome
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I should be chilling on the screwdriver

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Any else should I buy or have?

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My case comes with Velcro for cable management

potent portal
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Cool so no zip ties required

teal dome
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So that’s about it?

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W

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Thanks falcie and bacca

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I should be able to build it around Tuesday or Monday if it arrives early

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I’m excited and nervous at the same time

potent portal
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Yep PCs don't need special tools really. It's meant to be as accessible and easy as possible.

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Cabling is another story, but the actual components are easy

teal dome
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Yeah

south cliff
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I should prolly remove the glass before I took the picture but it’s fine

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I might buy rgb fans but I don’t think it Willis be worth it

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It looks a lot brighter for some reason on my phone it’s a lot darker

mossy venture
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So to fill all 8 of those, would be $39

teal dome
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@mossy venture any good 1080p monitors that are good deals under 100

mossy venture
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Still showing same prices for me

teal dome
mossy venture
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Ah alr

teal dome
teal dome
mossy venture
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Oh weird

teal dome
mossy venture
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Looks decent

teal dome
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Yeah

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Got it for 90

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Not complaining and it’s 165hz

teal dome
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also

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should i update bios before or after installing windows?

mossy venture
teal dome
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like bluetooth drivers and all that

mossy venture
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That I've no clue

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I just carried over ssds for both of the builds I did, so I don't really know

teal dome
minor cypress
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Where do I find the TikTok shop everyone talking about???

obsidian wigeon
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make an account in tiktok app

minor cypress
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Question for anyone. The Lian Li strimer cables comes in a 8 pin and a 24 pin. I’m new to this pc gaming world and working on building my pc to have those nice RGB looks.

Do I need to buy both then?

obsidian wigeon
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yes

minor cypress
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I know there are regular cables but I like the way those Lian li cables look

lyric thistle
minor cypress
lyric thistle
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I've used tiktok exclusively to help my girlfriend delete tiktok 😭

cyan ravine
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Just the 24 pin

minor cypress
cyan ravine
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For 7900 xtx it will take a pcie 3x8 (24)

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Hi

minor cypress
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I went with plan C bro! I just bought all the parts just now

cyan ravine
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Ooo ok

minor cypress
cyan ravine
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So taichi is 3x8

minor cypress
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That’s plan C you gave me 😊

cyan ravine
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Motherboard is straight 24

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However lian li have a 3x8 strimmer for gpu

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As well as a 24 mobo strimmer

minor cypress
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Kk, so definitely buy the 24 pin then? 🤔

cyan ravine
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If you want yea, they click on to the end of your normal psu cables

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But make sure they're the right ones

minor cypress
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Kk, I’ll probably hold off on buying the strimer cables til I assemble my PC and can tell in person which kind

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@cyan ravine oh another question

cyan ravine
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Sure

minor cypress
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How many fans should I buy? I was looking at the Lian Li unifans V2

teal dome
minor cypress
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Lian Li O11 dynamic Mini @teal dome

cyan ravine
minor cypress
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Snow edition

teal dome
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Also if you’re looking for good aesthetics I recommend a aio, but I don’t think you need it

cyan ravine
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They look good

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But on the other hand

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They're expensive and performance is meh at best to terrible at worst

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Fans don't need to be 30$ a piece

minor cypress
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Ahh ok, which do you recommend 🤔

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That can still give me the white look with RGB at least

cyan ravine
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Thermalright TL-C12C-S white. 3 pack for 12.59

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And a cooler master masterfan pwm and rgb hub

minor cypress
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I been hearing thermalright is really good from a lot of people!

cyan ravine
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Yes

teal dome
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Yeah

cyan ravine
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They're the new goats around town rn

minor cypress
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And price is cheap too

teal dome
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If you’re gonna buy fans max you can fit is 10 in the whole case

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120mm

cyan ravine
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The strimmers I think are ok, if you want max rgb I say go for it

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But a good custom kit can cost the same or less albeit no rgb

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Food for thought anyway

teal dome
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Asia horse cables are no rgb for around 20$

minor cypress
cyan ravine
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Ye or ezdiy-fab 16awg cables

cyan ravine
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Cos you'll have a lot of fans lmao

minor cypress
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Ahh

cyan ravine
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Boop

minor cypress
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I was just about to ask lol

cyan ravine
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Amazing hub, requires no software

fossil cedar
teal dome
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@cyan ravine I’m getting the montech air 100, it has 4 fans. 3 in front and one in back. Should I leave the layout like that or change them around?

fossil cedar
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Good layout no need to change

teal dome
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Alright

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I hope the case is good

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Ordered it and the psu today

cyan ravine
minor cypress
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@cyan ravine that link you sent for cooler master. I can buy the fans from there you mentioned with the controller as well?

cyan ravine
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I think both are on amazon

teal dome
cyan ravine
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That's what I'd do anyway, those three things

cyan ravine
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Thermalright make noctua fans

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I'd do a thermalright build

teal dome
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Do it

cyan ravine
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I need a commission first

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I don't need more pc's lol

teal dome
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Me no money PepeRealizes

teal dome
cyan ravine
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Anyway ima head out, good luck lads. On a time crunch today

minor cypress
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@cyan ravine thank you again 😊

flint sapphire
lunar vortex
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hiya people, is someone able to help me with a build?

mossy venture
lunar vortex
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I just wanted a look over on the parts that I’m íntially wanting to get, this will be brought over a space of a year

lunar vortex
# mossy venture Sure, what do you need help with?

I just don’t know if the parts I picked are compatible with each other or not, so I’m happy with any changes, however i would love to keep the case I chose (snowblind s) unless there’s recommendations for any other cases that do the same

mossy venture
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If you have a list on pcp, can just post the link here

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If not either say the model names, or send me screenshots in dms

lunar vortex
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yeah i have a list, will just log into my fiancés pc and send it over, thank you so much

mossy venture
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Yeah np, and sounds good

vague oracle
hazy surge
lunar vortex
fossil cedar
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That processer is actually 5 years old and would be outclassed by a 100£ i3 from this gen

fossil cedar
lunar vortex
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i want to say i dont have a budget, as ill be getting the parts overtime however i do not want to spend money on extremely expensive stuff aha

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i picked the i7 as thats the one my partner has (hes due to upgrade everything) and ive had no problem with it :)

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i did check for i9 however theyre a bit expensive for me right now, however im open to any suggestions

fossil cedar
lunar vortex
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thank you :) and between 1350 - 2000 at most :)

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but i do understand it can go over

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max ssd - 15-18tb

mossy venture
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Yeah I second what pato said, while the performance is fine its really overpriced

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8700k loses to the 12100f in gaming, which is sub 100 pounds

lunar vortex
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i was thinking that, i did see alot of newer parts that were cheaper however i dont want to risk overpaying or buying really bad parts

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
round cloud
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Considering cramming my 2070 and i7 8700 into a fractal Terra. I’m very happy with the new PC but now I need something else to tinker with

lunar vortex
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ill be having alot of games on there, plus quite a bit of education work and ill be streaming too ahh

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i guess when it comes to storage i am a bit extra xD

fossil cedar
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Idk how you'll use that much but okay

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Also honestly

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No point buying just a tiny bit more than you'll use atm

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Since storage constantly gets better and cheaper

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So I'd consider less now and upgrading later and you'll save money and or get better storage

lunar vortex
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ooo thank you!

mossy venture
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Do you prefer rgb or no rgb

lunar vortex
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my budget is 1850

mossy venture
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Or don't care

lunar vortex
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rgb please :)

lunar vortex
mossy venture
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7800xt beats the 3080, it's like 60-70% faster than the 3060

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Maybe more, I'm just estimating

lunar vortex
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oh thank you

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is there a way to incorporate the case i originally chose, as i really do like it :)

mossy venture
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Yes but I wouldn't really recommend it, cases with a solid front panel that don't have some type of alternative tend to have really bad airflow

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Could I find some alternatives and see if there's any you like?

lunar vortex
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yes sure

i liked that the case was able to have an led animation on the glass through wallpaper engine

mossy venture
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There's other options too I just don't want to spam too much

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If you'd like to take a look, g360a, o11 air mini, Lian li ii mesh c, fractal design pop xl air

lunar vortex
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okay thank you :)

mossy venture
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H5 flow and h7 flow as well, though I'd put that at the lower priority end between the cases I listed

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But if you like the look of them the most, they're acceptable

lunar vortex
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thank you :)

amber spear
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Ok so maybe I can get opinions.
I have this as my build :
Fractal design north atx mid tower pc case , Gigabyte z790 aorus pro x lag 1700 intel z790 x atx mother board , with ddr5 m2 , MSI ventus GeForce etc 4070 12gb gddr6x pci express video card, intel core i9 13th gen processor Corsair vengeance 64 tv ( 2x32) 288 pin pc ram ddr5, Ed black sun 850x m.2 2280 4tb pci express 4.0 ssd, windows 11, cooler master hyper 212 eco v2 air cooler and sea sonic focus gx1000 1000 w 80+ gold power supply Anything missing or could improve ?

mossy venture
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Corsair aios just suck lol

lunar vortex
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thank you so much! i really appreciate this :)

mossy venture
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Also I believe pato is about to link a list or two

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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Yep right on time lol

lunar vortex
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yeah i was wondering why i had to pay lol

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thank you

mossy venture
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Any of those lists, or a mixture thereof, would be great

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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Xtx pog

lunar vortex
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if i wanted to put an i9 for optimal perfomance would i be able to? or an amd ryzen 9?

mossy venture
mossy venture
lunar vortex
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thank you both so much, i honestly appreciate the feedback and help :)

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and oh okay understood

mossy venture
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Just the higher the i_ or ryzen _, the more cores it has, which doesn't matter too much for gaming

lunar vortex
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okay got it

mossy venture
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The 13600k and 7600 perform within 5% of 7950x and 13900k in most games

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However you could go for the 7800x3d

fossil cedar
mossy venture
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Then xtx doesn't fit in the list though, atleast not with all the aesthetics, aio, and 10tb hdd

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I'd say either 7600 7900xtx, 7600 4070 ti, or 7600 7800xt would make the most sense for what you're looking for

fossil cedar
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If going 7800xt tho didn't get the asrock one

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There's a sapphire white one for like 100 less

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Honestly the aio isn't needed at all

mossy venture
shut rampart
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I want a white pc

fossil cedar
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Pcpp dumb

mossy venture
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Ahh

fossil cedar
amber spear
#

So is it that it’s 4070 and not 4080 or 90 ? Because the price difference is drastic. Would MSI gaming GeForce rtx 4070 12gb gddr6x pci express 4.0x16 atx video card gaming x slim 12g
Be a better option in my listed build ?

little osprey
amber spear
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MMORPG. Games mostly

little osprey
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Hmmmmmmmmmm

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I could do two things right now

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Call in the Nvidia shill or someone who'll help you

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@fossil cedar, your knowledge is requested

mossy venture
amber spear
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I mean I’ve been playing on a desktop from 2017. And it’s functional. But getting slow as the drive is near full and obviously the video card and everything else is old

mossy venture
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If not, what do you use the pc for, what's your budget, country, and personal preferences

little osprey
amber spear
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No. I built that. With guys here in my office on the new egg website. Haven’t bought it yet

mossy venture
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Like aesthetic, size preferences, storage needs, do you want an aio, etc

mossy venture
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And other things like that where budget reallocation would help you a lot

amber spear
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What’s important to me is memory. I do not want to deal with drives getting full. I still use iTunes as I have over 6200 songs and 90 movies in there. Budget. 2k-3k

mossy venture
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For that budget you can do a full 4090 build

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Are you set on nvidia for gpu, or open to amd?

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Xtx matches/beats 4080 for over $100 less

amber spear
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I’m open. I just want something fast, smooth and has a lot of memory. The deal on the ssd drive is amazing. So I’d like to stay with that. Other options fully open

mossy venture
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What's the ssd deal? There's a lot of really good prices right now

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2tb drives around $65-70, 4tb around $140-170

mossy venture
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Or just whatever functions best

amber spear
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No. Don’t care about looks function > looks all day for me.

mossy venture
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Perfect, my favorite type of list to make lol

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Do you actively dislike rgb, or just don't have a preference

amber spear
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The ssd deal is wd black sn 850x nvme m2 2280 4tb ssd. $309. Normally $699

obsidian wigeon
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4090 time

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jk

mossy venture
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Bc for things like case there's good priced cases that just happen to have rgb

obsidian wigeon
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$309 for a 4tb is insane price tho

mossy venture
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4tb you can get much cheaper now

amber spear
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Don’t have a preference irt rob

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Rgb

mossy venture
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250 not 350, sorry

obsidian wigeon
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It's double the price of budget 4tb nvme ssds

amber spear
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Ah ok. Well. I’m not set on any brand. I just would prefer at least 4 tb. Over 2

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Lol well this is why I’m here. I know what’s important to me and my budget but I have no idea what’s good or not. For the price

mossy venture
mossy venture
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Also, if you'd like you could switch to a 4090 in that list

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But it's $700 more for like 25% difference?

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And ofc better rtx, but rtx bleh

amber spear
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Well that would be me. In my world ? ( mechanical engineering ). I absolutely am an expert. But computers ? I know what works for me and what I like. Which is speed , functionality and quality. How I get there or what it takes to get there ? I am all ears and WANT to ask those who know

mossy venture
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That is the perfect outlook

amber spear
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Well. Given that I’m playing on a system that is almost 8. Years old will I notice the difference in a $700 vid card upgrade ?

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Meaning would that really be worth the money?

mossy venture
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Nah, you'll be so surprised with the difference already

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I'm assuming you'll be looking for a monitor upgrade too?

amber spear
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That’s kinda what I thought.

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Well. That’s the next question. The monitor is old too. So I’m guessing the comp upgrade would be limited by the monitor ? Or no ?

obsidian wigeon
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Yes

mossy venture
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Most likely yeah, minimum specs on a monitor I'd go for with an xtx is 1440p 144hz

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Preferably 4k 144hz or 1440p 240hz

obsidian wigeon
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Depending on your monitor's specs, you might not even need top tier gpus

amber spear
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So that’s the next area I have no clue about. What kind of monitor / prices would fit the linked build you sent ?

mossy venture
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There's a good few options, one minute

amber spear
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Trust my. My monitor is 11 years old.

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Lol

obsidian wigeon
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You could get decent 1440p monitors for just $300

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Something like a G27Q

amber spear
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That would be great. So you linked a built that is better and has a better monitor and total is STILL les than what I put together ? ( which was like $2576 )

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  • build
mossy venture
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So the g27q would be the bare minimum I'd go, it's a really nice monitor but 1440p 144hz is easily doable on gpus worse than a 7900xtx, like 7900xt/4070 ti etc

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The two 1440p 240hz options are both better, the acer panel is a bit lower quality than the g27q but not by far

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In addition to having the benefit of higher refresh

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The msi 240hz option has a higher quality panel, which means better color accuracy, brightness, blurring, potential for issues, just monitor quality really

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Then the m32u is nicer than all the others, but also twice as expensive

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4k means lower fps than 1440p, since the gpu is rendering more pixels

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But it also has better detail, won't see pixels at closer distances, and the panel is also better on the m32u

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With that info it's really up to you though, any of them are fine choices

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Could also go 1440p at 32", if that's what you'd like

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Could find a link for that

amber spear
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I think the gigabyte m32 would be the way to go. I do t upgrade often so if I’m making such a drastic jump. I think it makes sense to spend more on what I will see every day

mossy venture
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Sounds good, m32u is the best priced 4k monitor for what you get

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Gigabyte has been doing very well in the monitor market the last couple years

amber spear
#

Thank you very much for your time and expertise ! From a novice ‘s point of view I can’t tell you how much I appreciate it !

mossy venture
#

Happy to help! If you have any questions feel free to ping or dm me

amber spear
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I’m gojng to go with the build you linked along with the monitor ! (And I will Ping/dm) Thank you again !

south cliff
#

My keybol;'dafghjks

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My keyboard types randoms letters if i hit the A, Q, and 1 key

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And my windows key dosent work

cyan ravine
#

Macro?

south cliff
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nope

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g\hjkl

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IT JUST TYPES THT

vague oracle
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Does it happen with other keyboards?

south cliff
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Im not sure

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it just h

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RNDOMLY HPPENED

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its apex 7 TKL keybord

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i fctory reset it reinstlled drivers

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nothing seems to work

obsidian wigeon
#

dying switches

south cliff
#

oh dng

cyan ravine
#

Try it in another computer

south cliff
#

i need to get new keybord?

cyan ravine
#

See if the problem stops

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Always my first step with peripherals

obsidian wigeon
#

you can probs do some soldering since that board isn't hotswap

south cliff
#

Ill see wht i cn do

obsidian wigeon
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but do some basic stuff like felix said first

south cliff
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ok

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so i got another keybord and it works

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a

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q

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1

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I will go plug it into another pc

cyan ravine
#

I bet it's a macro

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Lol

south cliff
#

No I dont have any macros setup

cyan ravine
#

It's easy enough to record by mistake

south cliff
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And deleted any that might have been made

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I made sure it wasent a maco

cyan ravine
#

Ah idk then

south cliff
#

well i dont have another computer so i cant test it but I will assume its broken and get a new keybord

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Unless my brother know how to fix it

strange glade
#

Got my pc parts, built my pc. But I am stuck on this windows 11 screen that says Let’s connect you to a network. I connected my Ethernet into my computer, however my network still won’t come up. What do I do?

mossy venture
strange glade
#

Do I install them on an external usb stick and then plug it into my computer? Will that then install them for me?

#

My MSI motherboard came with a msi usb stick, so I can probably use that

desert gulch
#

What phone do you have?

mossy venture
#

Could prob find a tutorial on YouTube

desert gulch
#

Just tether your phone and plug it in via a cable

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It'll let you get past that at least

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I literally went thru the same thing on my g14 when I clean installed and that worked for me

potent portal
# strange glade Got my pc parts, built my pc. But I am stuck on this windows 11 screen that says...

You can either install the network driver when you install windows, or you can bypass the network requirement and install the drivers later.
https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-11-set-up-without-internet-connection/

MUO
How to Install and Set Up Windows 11 Without an Internet Connection

Windows 11 Home forces you to connect to Microsoft's services on setup, but what if the internet is down? Here's how to set up Windows 11 offline.

desert gulch
#

A bunch of the workarounds have been patched from my recent experience

potent portal
#

Including the OOBE\BYPASSNRO one?

desert gulch
#

Not sure if I tried that one

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I just tethered wifi with phone because it's by far the easiest and fastest

potent portal
#

Easy for some, but it's also fast and easy to open a command window, type one command, and reboot.

desert gulch
#

Sure

strange glade
#

Yes, I have tried the Shift F10 and it doesn’t work

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I hate an iPhone 13 Pro Max

potent portal
#

You have to hit back before you shift f10

strange glade
#

Do I just connect that into my motherboard with the charger

#

Wdym I have to hit back?

#

Like the delete key?

potent portal
#

The back button on the screen

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So it goes back to the screen just before it tries to connect

strange glade
#

I don’t have a back button on my screen

#

I would send a pic but I can’t in this chat

potent portal
#

You can DM it to me

strange glade
#

Alr

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Ya, nothing is working

#

I might have to instal new drivers because I can’t leave that screen or anything. Can’t even get to my bios

potent portal
#

So if they disabled shift+f10 on install I know a lot of network admins will be unhappy when they get forced to move to 11 in 2 years.

#

You'll have to install the driver when you're doing the initial installation of Windows if you're going that route. When it asks where to install windows, you tell it to load a driver and point to the folder it's in.

#

You should still have the option for tethering if you have that on your phone plan. You'll just need to enable it in your iphone settings when you plug in via USB.

south cliff
#

Well my keyboard fixed itself

maiden plover
#

Hello everyone, I’m having issues with my pc and I can’t seem to fix it. Maybe someone here can help me, it has to do with Bluetooth, I’m on windows 10

teal dome
maiden plover
#

Yeah, it’s happened before and I had to pay someone to fix it for me, basically my pc is telling me Bluetooth is turned off. And there’s no option to turn it back on.

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Really annoying for me because for some games i can’t play with keyboard and mouse, I’m terrible with it

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I was playing elden ring a few minutes ago with my ps4 controller, then it disconnected. I tried to reconnect it and it wouldn’t connect and I already knew what happened.

mossy venture
#

What are you using to connect your Bluetooth, like is it built into the mobo, is it a dongle, etc

maiden plover
#

It’s built into the motherboard I assume as I don’t use a dongle for Bluetooth.

mossy venture
#

Then I'd try using a USB dongle, can just search USB Bluetooth on amazon

#

Should be like $10

maiden plover
#

Appreciate it🤙

cursive wharf
#

Option 2; Reinstall bluetooth drivers:
-Device Manager > Network Adapters > find WiFi controller (doubles as bluetooth controller) (ex: Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265)
-Download the bluetooth drivers for the controller
-Double check that you do have the bluetooth drivers for the correct device
-Device Manager > Bluetooth > right click device that shows up > properites > driver > uninstall device
-Install bluetooth drivers with the driver you previously downloaded

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Option 3; Reset BIOS settings:
-Restart PC and watch what it tells you to enter BIOS/setup
-Restart PC again and spam that key (ex: f2 or f11 or f12 or del), or spam it on the first reboot if you're fast enough
-Goto whatever tab resembles "Save and Exit"
-Reset settings to default
-When exiting the BIOS via "Save and Exit" it should confirm whether you want to save and exit. With that prompt it should also tell you want settings are being changed, make sure to take a picture of all settings being set to default.

little osprey
#

Boredom got the best of me, rate the list

obsidian wigeon
#

sinfully overpriced

little osprey
obsidian wigeon
#

mobo n cooler

little osprey
#

Womp womp

#

What would you swap it to

obsidian wigeon
#

b650m pro rs and cooler to frozen notte

#

dis better

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and case to pop air xl white

teal dome
#

@maiden plover same thing happens to my laptop, I just reinstalled Bluetooth drivers and updated bios

quasi blade
obsidian wigeon
#

it isn't anymore when frozen notte white exists for almost half the money

quasi blade
#

saved 40

quasi blade
#

80 vs 110

obsidian wigeon
#

still $30 less

#

but p400a would save some, yeah

quasi blade
#

yeah idk why youd spend 120 on that case and settle for a notte

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@obsidian wigeon lfa or viper

mossy venture
#

240/280 white options and cheaper

obsidian wigeon
#

them new aios keeps poppin up from thermalright

quasi blade
#

eh

#

280 is kinda lame imo

obsidian wigeon
#

i can't keep up anymore

quasi blade
#

good 360s are so cheap now

obsidian wigeon
#

tbh using an aio on 7800x3d is pointless

#

it can straight up be cooled fine on a single tower

mossy venture
quasi blade
mossy venture
#

A 240 is already overkill on a 7800x3d

obsidian wigeon
#

dual tower is plenty

mossy venture
#

Single tower is plenty for all of am5

quasi blade
#

go big or go home if youre going aio on a 7800x3d

obsidian wigeon
#

7k x3d chips are pretty chilly

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and sips power

mossy venture
quasi blade
#

not rlly

#

its nice if you have the budget but yeah

mossy venture
#

Because they're limited by the ihs, a 7800x3d on a $20 air cooler and a 360mm aio is no different

quasi blade
#

uh

#

thats not true

#

have you seen tests showing they perform the same??

obsidian wigeon
#

buildzoid ran it on an amd stock cooler

mossy venture
#

Yes it is, am5 has a very thick ihs

obsidian wigeon
#

and it didn't have problems lel

mossy venture
#

And cannot exceed thermal transfer limits it has

quasi blade
quasi blade
#

have you seen any or?

mossy venture
#

Yes, felix has shown me some comparisons

quasi blade
#

do you know who did them

mossy venture
#

He also owns I believe both a 7800x3d and 7950x, but I could be wrong

#

No I don't

obsidian wigeon
#

he has 7950x3d too

maiden plover
potent portal
#

F2

#

UEFI = BIOS

maiden plover
#

Thank you!

dusty coyote
#

I have two 13900K’s and I can’t for the life of me figure out why neither of them will let the motherboards turn on. I’ve tried with multiple motherboards but it refuses to let them turn on. I can understand one cpu being bad but the chances of both? Any ideas? As soon as the cpu is in the socket, it won’t turn on at all. But it will without it.

maiden plover
#

To reset settings to default, should I click load uefi defaults?

potent portal
#

Yes

#

That's one way

#

It's generally enough for most issues, but if your problem persists you can try a CMOS clear

#

?cmos

jolly riverBOT
maiden plover
#

I did all that and my pc still says Bluetooth is turned off :/ time to try clear CMOS

potent portal
cyan ravine
#

@little osprey b12's

#

🖤

quasi blade
flint sapphire
dusty coyote
dusty coyote
# quasi blade how are you attempting to turn the pc on

I was using a screw driver to turn it on because I was testing out of the case but I decided to plug the power switch in from the case to make it easier. It works without the cpu but doesn’t work with it. Very strange. I’m going to try another power supply next.

cyan ravine
flint sapphire
cyan ravine
flint sapphire
cyan ravine
#

It's pretty accurate

flint sapphire
cyan ravine
flint sapphire
quasi blade
little osprey
#

would buying a 12900k and z690 e strix for 500 with free ram be a waste

quasi blade
#

yes

mossy venture
#

If you're doing multi core tasks it could be ok

little osprey
#

what intel would u recommend for friend

mossy venture
#

13600k same multi core better single core for $300, mobo for $120-150, ram for $82 6000c32 kit

#

If he's gaming I would 100% recommend a 7600, but I'm assuming by your phrasing he won't go for amd

#

Which is completely not based in fact but whatever, not my issue

little osprey
#

~~7900x ~~with 7900xtx fine to do

#

i mean 7600x

mossy venture
#

Does he need wifi on mobo

little osprey
#

i was looking at the B650E Asrock

mossy venture
#

B650m pro rs wifi is $125 and can handle a 7950x3d

little osprey
#

itx board

mossy venture
#

Does he want an itx build?

little osprey
#

he wants to keep it small i just asked

mossy venture
#

Does he need wifi

little osprey
#

yes

mossy venture
little osprey
#

ty

quasi blade
quasi blade
#

7600 significantly worse in games

#

is it way cheaper now or smth?

mossy venture
#

7600 is $70 cheaper than 13600k and has cheaper mobo options

#

And potential for upgradability, which is more a bonus than a selling point

#

Unlock pl limit and its within a few % of a 13600k

quasi blade
#

if he has the money idk why youd recommend something much much worse for upgradability

mossy venture
#

Also doesn't need an agter market cooler

mossy venture
little osprey
#

Dissing the 13600K behind my back 😭

mossy venture
#

13600k is $50 less than a 7800x3d

#

It makes no sense atp unless you're doing multi core tasks

little osprey
#

Nah they got a point

#

AM5 is kinda the go to socket right now

#

Unless you have work station needs

quasi blade
mossy venture
#

7600 is not far behind for $70 less, 7800x3d is far better for $50 more

mossy venture
#

You believe that

quasi blade
#

it is the truth

little osprey
#

No

mossy venture
#

👍

little osprey
#

I'm literally running a 13600K right now

quasi blade
#

yes lol

mossy venture
# little osprey No

Hes been consistently wrong every time I've seen him having a conversation here, im not bothering with this one

little osprey
#

And unless you're doing some crazy OC you're not gonna get much different for gaming

quasi blade
#

believe what you want

quasi blade
little osprey
#

7600X and 7600 are essentially the same

#

And yes there have been people here who've run both

quasi blade
quasi blade
little osprey
quasi blade
#

so why bring it up lol

quasi blade
#

they averaged 28 diff reviews

#

go read it

little osprey
#

Do they source the reviews?

quasi blade
#

yep

little osprey
#

Also averaging reviews isn't really a good idea

mossy venture
quasi blade
mossy venture
#

And 13600k also needs another minimum $30 for cooler

quasi blade
#

looking at less reviews is a bad idea

#

when you could look at more

little osprey
#

MF one sec

mossy venture
#

Looking at customer reviews period is a terrible idea lmao

quasi blade
#

what

#

its reviews from reviewers

#

wdym customer reviews

little osprey
#

Not all reviewers are good sources

#

Like the LTT incident not too long ago, benchmarks were entirely off

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=todoXi1Y-PI

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This review looks at the Intel i5-13600K CPU vs. the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X, Intel i9-13900K, and older Intel and AMD CPUs. Our 13600K benchmarks include power, gaming, production, and more. Intel's Core i5-13600K should already be released, with pricing more closely ti...

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Anyways

quasi blade
#

thats why its best to look at a bunvh

#

rather than one or two

mossy venture
quasi blade
little osprey
quasi blade
#

you can read the sources

little osprey
mossy venture
#

The price difference is negligible, the 13600k makes absolutely no sense

quasi blade
mossy venture
#

Ltt has been doing this wrong for over a decade

little osprey
#

Yes and LTT is entertainment not informational

quasi blade
mossy venture
#

And has consistently spread misinformation

quasi blade
#

yes?

mossy venture
#

They provide skewed benches

quasi blade
#

theyve been doing that for over a decade

#

thats a dumb argument and you know it

mossy venture
#

Lol

#

Their benches have been consistently off

#

For a long time

quasi blade
#

yeah

#

GN have made mistakes

little osprey
#

There's a reason GN specifically called them out

quasi blade
#

for a long time

mossy venture
#

Ok

quasi blade
#

i wouldnt trust their cs2 bench

little osprey
#

LTT didn't

mossy venture
#

This is just stupid

#

Goodbye

quasi blade
#

they didnt adequately correct the cs2 bench, no

#

they didnt take down the badly done original video

#

they literally ran an fps cap in a "benchmark"

quasi blade
little osprey
#

You know what buddy, enjoy your sinking ship

quasi blade
#

i will enjoy buying measurably better products

little osprey
#

MFW

#

13600K and 3050

quasi blade
#

ew ampere

#

rdna2 >>>

little osprey
#

So we can confirm he's not an Nvidia shill

#

Alright that's a start

mossy venture
#

Mfw 7800x3d is $12 more than 13600k with cooler, mobo, and ram included in prices

quasi blade
#

yes or no

little osprey
#

Why ask me

quasi blade
#

to see if youre honest

little osprey
little osprey
#

I don't know what else you'd want

mossy venture
quasi blade
little osprey
#

Womp womp

mossy venture
jagged ember
#

Oh he trusts LTT benchmarks LOL

quasi blade
#

seems like a fine deal

jagged ember
#

Yeah he's beyond saving then they literally only just started using the lab buddy

quasi blade
#

didnt click on your links

quasi blade
mossy venture
quasi blade
#

i explicitly said that ltt does bad benches

#

and has for years

jagged ember
#

So a decade worth of benchmarks up until then have been skewed and not for reference

mossy citrus
little osprey
mossy venture
little osprey
#

I only see the 13600K as a OC chip

quasi blade
#

whoops

mossy venture
#

13600k is great for gaming and workstation tasks

#

But when just gaming 13th gen makes no sense

quasi blade
mossy venture
#

The choices are 5500, 12400f, 12600k, 7600, 7800x3d

#

Nothing else makes sense with current pricing

quasi blade
#

6p 8e will last a lot longer than 6c

little osprey
#

If you're running stock on both chips you're not really gonna notice much of a difference while gaming

quasi blade
quasi blade
little osprey
#

13900K just crumbles while gaming

#

Same with 12900K

quasi blade
#

what lol

mossy venture
#

Not exactly

quasi blade
#

x3d crumbles generally

#

abhorrent lows

mossy venture
#

But without tuning it still loses to 7800x3d

quasi blade
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i significantly beat x3ds in lows on all stock clocks except ring

mossy venture
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12900k makes no sense

quasi blade
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with jedec 4800 mem

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so no thats not true

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unless you only care about avg

mossy citrus
quasi blade
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real

mossy citrus
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Even a 7700/X

quasi blade
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esp 12600k cuz funsies

mossy venture
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7600 beats both in single core

quasi blade
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🧌

mossy citrus
quasi blade
little osprey
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I can see 13400F but not 12600K

quasi blade
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IPC isnt one measurement lol

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you cant just say "in single core"

mossy venture
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$155

mossy citrus
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Ok damn

little osprey
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Isn't that KF?

mossy venture
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Maybe idk

little osprey
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Hm

mossy citrus
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Both are better value and outperform in multithreaded stuff

mossy venture
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If you're using your pc for more than gaming sure

mossy citrus
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Id pick 12600k over 13400f

quasi blade
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me too

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unless i had an eclk board

little osprey
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MFW BCLK

mossy citrus
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Not even cuz of that its because RPL perfers D5 for multi threaded stuff and ADL doesnt care

mossy venture
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More often closer to 10%

mossy citrus
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Yeah

mossy venture
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I say as I'm running a 13600k with xmp ddr4

quasi blade
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creenge

mossy venture
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Rev e too I just haven't gotten around to tuning it still, since I don't really need to. My gpu is so underkill for the 13600k it doesn't matter atm

quasi blade
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im runninf jedec ddr5 with a 13900k

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optimal

mossy venture
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Itd help with 1% lows but meh

quasi blade
mossy venture
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3060 ti at 1440p

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And my 3600 with the 3060 ti at 1080p was already more than what the gpu needed

quasi blade
vague oracle
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JEDEC DDR5 💀

gentle pollen
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Why 13600k then?

quasi blade
quasi blade
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i was on mildly tuned 8000 but i updated my bios

mossy venture
quasi blade
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forgot what voltages i use

vague oracle
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What board?

quasi blade
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but yeah

quasi blade
gentle pollen
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$$$

quasi blade
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it got cheap

gentle pollen
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What's your setup if you don't mind me asking?

quasi blade
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i think $310

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at the end

gentle pollen
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Oh ok.

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Thought you paid the full $699

quasi blade
quasi blade
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id never spend $700 on a mobo except maybe an apex idk

gentle pollen
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Neat setup.

mossy venture
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H510 💀

gentle pollen
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Interesting you get about the same frames as I do.

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DLSS on or off?

quasi blade
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idk how wz2 runs

mossy venture
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No?

quasi blade
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oh

mossy venture
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Wz2 is terribly optimized

quasi blade
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idk

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i get like 200 i think or smth

mossy venture
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Wz2 also really likes 13th gen I believe

quasi blade
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prob

mossy venture
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Very cpu focused game

quasi blade
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everything well made likes 13th gen

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except factorio