#building-and-recc-chat

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cyan ravine
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So $70 for the SE?

round cloud
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MicroCenter been hitting my social media algorithms hard lol

cyan ravine
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Lol

round cloud
cyan ravine
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$80 for the p41 plus still great

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Hmm

lone flame
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720 dollar 7900 XT…….

cyan ravine
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Have you opened the aio yet

round cloud
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Yea lmao like a child

cyan ravine
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Alr it's fine then, keep it

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Not worth $10 at that point

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Or what $14

round cloud
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Yea yolo

cyan ravine
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Especially if you like the look

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Ok and how much was the mx500 ssd

round cloud
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I do, I’ll take the Samsung back, get the p41, and maybe the $720 7900xt in one go.

cyan ravine
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Yeah that would be solid

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Lets see if we can save a little more

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Did you buy the sata ssd?

round cloud
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I got it in March

cyan ravine
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Ah ok

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So that really leaves the aio then

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You could try return it? They might still take it

round cloud
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Nah

dusky hearth
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Esp if unopened

round cloud
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Unless I’m upgrading I’m not gonna bother tbh

cyan ravine
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They do no questions returns often

round cloud
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Then I’d have to wait for the other one to get here

cyan ravine
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Oh I mean, just thinking about making up the gap to the 7900xt

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How much was your 7800xt

round cloud
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$520

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Wait

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$540

cyan ravine
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So you'd be $150 net down

round cloud
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Jk it was $520.

cyan ravine
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170 then

dusky hearth
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I was gonna say zamn but then I realized that most people don't live in Canada

cyan ravine
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Are you dead set on the 7800x3d?

round cloud
cyan ravine
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How much was it

round cloud
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$385 with starfield

cyan ravine
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Ah ok

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Yeah I can't see much improvement here

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Nothing really noteworthy

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The 7900xt would be worth it if you want to jump up

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720 is about as good as it'll ever be

round cloud
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I was eyeing the other one

lone flame
cyan ravine
round cloud
cyan ravine
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Nah they have one for 720 rn

round cloud
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But hell hound has an off switch for led which I like

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May just go hell hound

cyan ravine
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One sec I'll check it fits first

round cloud
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I think anything should fit

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Look

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Plenty of clearance with psu in that position

cyan ravine
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It fits

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Yeah I just wanted to be sure

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These cases can't take some of the bigger psus

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Pretty solid

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The psu is very overkill tho, but one of the better things to have overkill tbh

round cloud
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Damn, the mobo price dropped $25 since I ordered

cyan ravine
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It did

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You could return and swap?

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Order again? Lol

round cloud
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Maybe just ask Newegg tbh

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I don’t even have it in my possession yet

cyan ravine
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Oh

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Omg

round cloud
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I bet Newegg would refund difference. Especially since I could prob cancel and reorder anyway

cyan ravine
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What's the bot again

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@fresh garden yeah this is them

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Dm them and ask to cancel

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Then reorder at the better price

round cloud
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Ya, I’ll contact them.

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Other than that sounds like I just swap drives, bite bullet and go with that 7900xt

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Tyvm

cyan ravine
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Pretty much yeah

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And/or grab the same aio cheaper/change

round cloud
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I’ll think on it

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Big bonus pts if I’m able to get it going on Friday tho

terse jackal
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Best CPU for streaming?

mossy venture
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7950x3d

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Cpu doesn't really matter for streaming though, gpu encoding is so much better than cpu encoding

terse jackal
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Best GPU for streaming then

mossy venture
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Any semi recent nvidia gpu or 7000 series nvidia has a very good video encoder

terse jackal
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What motherboard do I need with a Intel® Core™ i7-10700K Processor

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Like what chipset

pseudo pollen
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z490/b460 I think

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it also works with z590/b560

terse jackal
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Any motherboard recommendations for that chipset?

stoic island
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Z490? Do you have a CPU already?

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Oh wait

stoic island
terse jackal
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No

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Just doing a theoretical build

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Need to be able to stream well though

stoic island
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Would recommend like a 13600k then

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Better performance, newer chipset

terse jackal
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mossy venture
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Like mr111 said I wouldn't buy a 10700k, there's a lot of cpus that are cheaper and perform better

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12600kf is $155 rn and beats a 10900k

terse jackal
mossy venture
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Ehh, id take a 7600 over 13600k

stoic island
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oh damn 65$ off

mossy venture
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And I'll BRB I gotta drive

stoic island
dusky hearth
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Text and drive real

stoic island
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but when it's that much cheaper I'd just take that

lone flame
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For a 7900 XT/XTX would a 750w psu still be fine, along with a r5 7600 at 1440?

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If so that’s going to be my next upgrade in the future

dusky hearth
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I would probably upgrade the psu

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Amd says to use a 800w psu

mossy venture
earnest olive
# dusky hearth Amd says to use a 800w psu

but they have to make that recommendation assuming you’re running a 13900K at asus AI suite voltages in prime95 while also running furmark and your “800w” is a thermaltake smart or something

pseudo pollen
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technically you could use something like a 550w psu if it's a good model, but it's not recommended

earnest olive
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technically could get away with less lol

pseudo pollen
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uses a 220w oem dell psu

dusky hearth
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Fair

lone flame
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i have a corsair 750e i think

pseudo pollen
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that's a good model

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a tier iirc

lone flame
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RM750e is the full title i think

pseudo pollen
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👍

mossy venture
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Could run an xtx or 4090 on that with a low wattage cpu like the 7600 fine

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7800x3d too

lone flame
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could i get away with an AIO and some nice fans with it

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thats what i plan to upgrade to within the next yearish i think

mossy venture
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Yes

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Though a lot of "nice" fans are kinda pointless, if you like the look of c12c rgb those are really nice for 3 for $13

lone flame
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bro i saw the lian li infinity fans the other day

mossy venture
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Those are like what, $40 a fan?

lone flame
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overkill for no reason

mossy venture
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$30?

lone flame
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but they look so nice

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im not even a big rgb guy

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they look so nice

manic cloak
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4070ti for 500$ supposedly brand “new” 😭

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You think it’s worth

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If you close your eyes while listening it’s just.. 💀

dusky hearth
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Where's the esd bag lmfao

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He just gon put the gee pee you on the bed

manic cloak
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Fr

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I’m gonna ask him where the electric static bag is

dusky hearth
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It's definitely not brand new
But it's like new at least

Assuming that it still works lmfao

manic cloak
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I could test it

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But I’d need to figure out how to meet up w him and my Pc

dusky hearth
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They don't have a pc?

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Oh right you need to be in a public place

manic cloak
dusky hearth
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If you go with a friend you should be fine but hmm

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Why did they buy it if they can't use it 💀

primal linden
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(slim) shady

strong raft
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Yep. Already got some grimy fingers on it. Thnx but no thnx.

primal linden
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shoulda been open box

dusky hearth
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^

manic cloak
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Fr

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Imma ask him to meet up near my place then

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At city hall

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Actually no

earnest olive
manic cloak
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A library or Starbucks maybe

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Cause I’ll need wifi

earnest olive
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have you seen my setup when I was buying a gpu at starbucks

primal linden
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Grande GPU with extra creamer

primal linden
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holy

earnest olive
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can’t believe I paid $750 for a 5700xt

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different times

primal linden
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crayzy

earnest olive
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made more than $750 off of it so it was worth it 8)

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but yeah

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starbucks is chill the employees don’t care

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sometimes if it’s slow enough they’ll even come out from behind the counter to look at wtf I’m doing

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LOL

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I was buying a 3070ti and the barista came out and complained about not being able to find a 3070

primal linden
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did you have the 3070ti in your hands

earnest olive
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not quite

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I was buying a full prebuilt that came with the 3070ti in it

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the price was right lol

primal linden
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noice

earnest olive
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the second time I bought a whole prebuilt just for the gpu

primal linden
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was the value that good

earnest olive
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dude wanted 1200 for this 10600K 3070ti nzxt prebuilt

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back when 3070ti was like 950 on average

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the first time someone wanted 800 for a 3700x 5700xt cyberpower prebuilt

potent portal
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If you could even find one in stock

earnest olive
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when 5700xt was 800 on average

primal linden
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did you sells the other parts

earnest olive
earnest olive
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just swapped the case and cooler

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to what he wanted

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then used the case and cooler that came with the prebuilt to build a budget flip using that customer’s old stuff

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offered to buy his old hardware off of him as part of the payment for his upgrade

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in total off the two transactions I think I profited like $900

primal linden
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noice

earnest olive
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and put in about 3 hours of work

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he actually wanted me to reuse the case and cooler he already had so I was basically just swapping parts between the two pcs lol

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3 hours of work including meetups and negotiations and stuff

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actual swap maybe 30 mins

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love doing upgrades for people bc a lot of the time they'll just sell you their old stuff for a killer deal so they don't have to deal with it

little osprey
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i really hate my ocd on worrying my asrock Tiachi build and 7900xtx will have hotspot problems after reading a couple of reviews 😦 this kills me. I read them on newegg it was like 3-4 of them out of 41 reviews

mossy venture
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Customer reviews really don't mean much

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For all we know it could be in an h510 elite

little osprey
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also i would assume they sold tons of the 7900xtx taichi and 41 reviews is a small amount

little osprey
teal dome
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@mossy venture what’s that subreddit again? For the pc deals?

primal linden
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r/buildapcsales

teal dome
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Thanks

earnest olive
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many 7900xtx were having hotspot issues at launch

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should be resolved these days

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not just taichi

nova apex
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what’s easiest way to get thermal paste off. and what’s the best method to reapply (also do i apply thermal paste to cooler or cpu)

mossy venture
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Isopropyl alcohol, high %

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And cpu

nova apex
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cotton swab?

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also how much thermal paste, what’s the best pattern

potent portal
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I'll do an X if I'm feeling lazy but technically the best is to pre spread it

nova apex
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also is there an alternative to isopropyl alcohol?

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also what do you use to prespread

little osprey
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It’s like forty cents extra on MX-4

nova apex
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but doing an x will do just fine?

mossy venture
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Yes

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Spreading it doesn't really affect much, if it does its normally less than a few degrees

nova apex
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cool ty

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what do i do after wiping with alc?

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paper towel on it?

dusky hearth
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it will just evaporate

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alcohol's boiling point is like 60c, but evaporates at much lower (same with water)

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oh it was 82.6°c

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isopropyl alcohol is not miscible with salt solutions and can be separated from aqueous solutions by adding a salt such as sodium chloride.
oh hey we can fairly easily make pure isopropyl

dim forge
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as long as the towel is not dripping alcohol it'll evaporate quick af and do the job just fine pepe3090

strange glade
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How do I know if my PC will be able to connect to the Ethernet?

dusky hearth
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wdym?

strange glade
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After I build a PC, it will either be connect to the internet via ethernet or through like bluetooth right?

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you know what i mean?

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I'm new to this building thing so I prob sound dumb

dusky hearth
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no bluetooth, only ethernet
the wired connection normally works with the generic drivers windows includes (on some rare occasions it doesn't, so you'll have to download the drivers onto a seperate device then transfer it via usb or dvd or whatever)

mossy venture
strange glade
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alr bet

mossy venture
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If they say ax, ac, or wifi in the name, they can use wifi or ethernet

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Well actually

strange glade
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Okay, my motherboard says wifi thats why I was confused

mossy venture
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Any mobo can use wifi, but those mobos come with a wifi card

strange glade
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I ordered my parts and monitor so I am just waiting for them to arrive

mossy venture
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But if it doesn't come with wifi you just need to add a wifi card

dusky hearth
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you'll have to install the drivers first for wlan, i don't really ever see any wlan cards that work with the generic drivers if there even are any

strange glade
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So I have to install drivers for my pc to be able to connect to the wifi

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I gotta watch hella vids cause I didn't know that

dusky hearth
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yes

strange glade
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You got any reccomendations for videos to watch?

dusky hearth
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your mobo or wlan card should include the download link in their websites

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if they don't you can come back here and ask, but usually the drivers from the chip manufacters work, so like from intel

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it's very straightforwards and i don't really think you'll need a video

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most installers are basically just download, and run the executable

strange glade
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ya, my cpu is intel

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Is there a way to test how good the parts will run in games

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or do I just have to test it once I built it?

dusky hearth
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well, for an accurate representation, you'll have to test it yourself

earnest olive
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@cyan ravine unifans acquired

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might not have time to do the swap today tho

dusky hearth
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for an approximate, which will probably be close to the result you'll get, go on youtube and search for your cpu and gpu

strange glade
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When I buy my parts off Newegg, does it come with all the cables I need?

dusky hearth
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depends

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buying a sata drive usually doesn't include any cables, you'll have to use the cables that may be supplied with the mobo

nova apex
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i’m so upset, this coolers bracket came broken wtf

dusky hearth
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but other than that, basically all the cables you need should be included

strange glade
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Is there any difference for windows 10 and windows 10 pro for gaming?

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11* sorry

earnest olive
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yes

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if you don't have a strong preference just use 11

strange glade
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alr bet thanks

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Does thermal paste matter because i am getting this (Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G). This should be okay right?

earnest olive
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seems pointless to buy that

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very old formula

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probably not better than whatever paste is included with your cooler

potent portal
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Arctic silver 5 used to be the budget option, now the budget option is MX-4

terse jackal
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I know this might sound stupid but you know how some mobos come with a second m.2 slot. Mine does but doesn’t have heat sink for the second slot. Should I buy one to add into it?

leaden mauve
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you dont mean if you should buy another m.2 drive for a 2nd slot you dont have?

terse jackal
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I mean that it doesn’t come with a heatsink cover like the first slot does on my motherboard

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If i do decide to purchase a second m.2 should I look for one that has a heatsink built into the drive or at least purchase an external one?

Or will the m.2 be fine?

cyan ravine
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Depends on the drive

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Some use enough power to need it, others don't

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I would say the only times it's worth buying a drive with a heatsink is if it's like, 5-10$ more?

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Otherwise just buy one separate

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Like an ek m.2 heatsink is very good and quite low profile

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There are other aftermarket options with rgb as well (if you're into that sort of thing)

cyan ravine
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lyric thistle
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Fr

untold vessel
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Everyone, for Strictly Gaming PCs paired with a 4090, what would the differences in performance be when using an i5-13600K vs an i9-13900K?

cyan ravine
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If you tune the cpu properly, maybe 1 or 2%?

untold vessel
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I did a little bit of crappy self-research and found that for gaming, the differences were... negligible? How would the differences be if my goal is to play 4K Cyberpunk at the absolute MAXIMUM framerates I can upgrade?

cyan ravine
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Yes that's right

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Cos you're supposed to overclock a K cpu

untold vessel
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Even for 4k10,000hz? (pepehmmm )

cyan ravine
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You pull both out and push them as hard as they'll go the differences will only be small due to downbinning

dusky hearth
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most games don't care about cpu too much asides from like
clock speeds
and that's only if you're playing at like lower resolutions at like several hundreds of fps

cyan ravine
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Yeah Upvote

untold vessel
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Oh jeez

dusky hearth
cyan ravine
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And additionally, very few games if any use more than 8 threads

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On a 6 p core cpu? It'll handle it

untold vessel
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So in what world would PC builders ever spend TWICE the money on a cpu for 1% more performance?

cyan ravine
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Cos they're not that witty my guy

untold vessel
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I see so many "God" builds but never understood the logic

dusky hearth
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or they have a use for the cpu

cyan ravine
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Why do you think I lecture people constantly here lol

dusky hearth
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or they want to flex

cyan ravine
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Cos people overspend way too often for pc gaming

untold vessel
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What would be the absolute best build price-wise for Cyberpunk, especially with the new update?

cyan ravine
untold vessel
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I know you and Pato had to slap the Nvidia out of me with the $600 price difference

untold vessel
cyan ravine
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Hm

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Would you run RT or no

untold vessel
untold vessel
cyan ravine
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Ok

untold vessel
# cyan ravine Would you run RT or no

I had to choose between Ray Tracing Medium at 4k or Ray Tracing Overdrive at 1080p and I finally choose Overdrive at 1080p for those sweet sweet Path tracing rays

dusky hearth
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if you want to run ray tracing at max settings or such, then nvidia still has the best currently for rt
for best value, it'll have to be like the 7900xtx or smth like that, which afaik also has pretty good rt now? i havent been keeping up with the gpu game recently ngl

untold vessel
untold vessel
untold vessel
untold vessel
potent portal
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Nvidia's not putting as much resources into gaming, they're putting everything into AI

untold vessel
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Think they'll ditch Gaming for good?

potent portal
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Nah just until the AI bubble bursts

untold vessel
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No way they forfeit that marketplace to AMD, no?

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yeah

potent portal
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AMD is doing the same

untold vessel
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Oh crap

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then who will fill the gap?

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Battlemage? Is that ever seriously coming out?

cyan ravine
untold vessel
cyan ravine
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It's extreme but like, extreme without making extra spending for pointless improvement

potent portal
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And nvidia lost 25% market share on their last investor report but they still called it a win because AI sales waaaaay outstripped it

dusky hearth
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i wonder
is the ROI for gaming not that great

cyan ravine
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Like for example, 13900k for games

cyan ravine
dusky hearth
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though like everyone seems to be pumping a crap load of money into ai currently which probably is going to make more money, at least in the short term

potent portal
untold vessel
untold vessel
cyan ravine
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13600k works too

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It's a bit more tricky

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As in you'd turn more knobs

potent portal
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You'd have to overclock the 13600k and tune the memory to match the 7800X3D

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Which is easy enough

cyan ravine
potent portal
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But comparing costs, you can slap the X3D onto an A620 motherboard that costs half what you'd pay for Z790

cyan ravine
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And yes, you overclock both 13600k and ram (a die)

cyan ravine
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Bclk oc go brr

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Glorious $130 greatness

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But the short stick is he's right

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You want a ridiculously good z board

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And they aren't cheap

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At least to match a 7800x3d

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That is

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Apex or kingpin are the hot choices for pushing a 13th gen chip to go faster than 7000X3D

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However in a drag race? The results would be very similar in most games, almost unnoticeable

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You'd be easily within 5% with a riptide instead

untold vessel
# cyan ravine It's a bit more tricky

Here's my current situation. I'm running the $1,000 i5-11400 ABS Prebuilt that you two (@potent portal) & Pato helped me decide on about 2 years ago. I swapped its 3060 for an EVGA 3070 FTW, and am currently getting a stable 55fps at 1080 with Everything, EVERYTHING maxed out in settings.

Here are the two problems:

-I can't play Cyberpunk at 4K max settings without the crutch of DLSS

-I need a new motherboard anyway, because my current one can't detect my new expensive Wireless keyboard that I bought-- More on that, if I get a new motherboard, I might as well get a new CPU-- no? (I tried to fix my bluetooth issues at a help store, but they quoted me $100 to even diagnose the issue, and the further charges on whatever they have to buy to fix it (As in, the price of a new motherboard anyways)

cyan ravine
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Sure the dongle isn't dead on the keyboard?

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Happens a lot

untold vessel
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What's the dongle?

cyan ravine
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The little usb that wireless keyboards normally have

untold vessel
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Thinking back I probably just should have asked you guys for help on the bluetooth issue

untold vessel
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Oh there is no USB

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it's a Keychron

cyan ravine
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Hmmm

untold vessel
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Kind of bugged about that

dusky hearth
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keychron should have a usbc port huh

untold vessel
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But hey, I did my research and got it for a good price

untold vessel
cyan ravine
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Does the pc connect to your phone over bluetooth?

dusky hearth
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there's no dongle but you'll have to use it wired for best

untold vessel
dusky hearth
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oh

cyan ravine
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Hm

dusky hearth
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you probably dont even have a wifi/bt chip

untold vessel
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I then tested some headphones and also the same keyboard with my laptop

cyan ravine
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Did you install the antenna

untold vessel
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Worked completely fine

dusky hearth
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does your mobo have wifi

untold vessel
untold vessel
dusky hearth
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that's the problem

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oh?

untold vessel
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Which is the kicker

dusky hearth
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interesting lmfao

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any bt drivers on the site

cyan ravine
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If it has wifi then it should have bluetooth

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It's not a wifi card is it?

untold vessel
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Bluetooth shows up in the taskbar completely fine

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It just says "no devices detected"

cyan ravine
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Ah ok so it is turning on

cyan ravine
untold vessel
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Yup!

cyan ravine
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You should have two antenna sticking out the back of your pc

untold vessel
cyan ravine
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Do you see like, two gold knobs sticking out of the motherboard?

dusky hearth
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tbh ideally you have the antenna on those wires to put like above your desk if it is like under the desk or smth

untold vessel
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Yes! I am very familiar with the golden antenna-attachments!

cyan ravine
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Hmm

untold vessel
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Wait

cyan ravine
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Yeah I reckon it's still a range thing

untold vessel
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Do i have to do any software or clicking

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Or do i just twist on the antenna and bluetooth should work

cyan ravine
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Without those antennas bluetooth has basically no area of effect

dusky hearth
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it should theoretically be preinstalled if it's from abs

untold vessel
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because I did the latter

untold vessel
dusky hearth
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i mean the drivers

untold vessel
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Oh yeah i did so many driver updates

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Even completely reset my pc

dusky hearth
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the antenna you probably should have reached out to support when you noticed that it wasnt included

untold vessel
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Don't know what I'm doing at all

dusky hearth
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ah, resetting pc, so you'll need to reinstall the drivers

untold vessel
#

It's a specially gigabyte model

dusky hearth
#

does abs include a packlist of parts that should be included

cyan ravine
#

I'd try the antennas again tbh

dusky hearth
#

they should probably include that

#

(as in like, if they don't, they should consider putting a pack list in the package as well)

cyan ravine
#

Antennas are like, $10 off amazon?

untold vessel
cyan ravine
#

Should ye

untold vessel
#

Alright, I think I can try it

cyan ravine
#

Maybe takes some funny poses or angles

dusky hearth
#

you need to make sure that you get the right antennas with the correct antennas for your mobo though

dusky hearth
#

generally they use the same but if on the off chance they're different, then that would be a pain

untold vessel
#

Another thing the help store told me was that the Bluetooth card was broken? was I getting punked like a lady asking for an oil change?

untold vessel
#

AH, NOOO HAHA

cyan ravine
#

Bluetooth card is your wifi card

dusky hearth
untold vessel
#

Oh yeah wifi card

cyan ravine
#

Your wifi works

untold vessel
#

they did say that

#

yeah my wifi works

#

are the wifi card and bluetooth "card" one in the same?

dusky hearth
#

technically there are bluetooth only adapters

#

depends

untold vessel
#

because if my wifi works, bluetooth should too, no?

dusky hearth
#

wifi and bluetooth are completely different

dusky hearth
#

but often built into the controller chip for the wlan

#

so you see wlan cards
and wlan+bt cards

cyan ravine
#

Typically your motherboard should have both wifi and Bluetooth

dusky hearth
#

^ (assuming that it has wlan)

untold vessel
#

They did point to a smaller green looking board that was slightly attached to my motherboard- were they actually on to something?

cyan ravine
#

Mm

dusky hearth
#

send pics

cyan ravine
#

My battery gonna die

untold vessel
dusky hearth
#

goodbye forever

cyan ravine
#

I will leave to network masta 343

#

Professional

dusky hearth
#

lmfao

#

i have to go eat breakfast soon

#

i have a linux test in 60 minutes 💀

untold vessel
#

Alright alright; So before I go spending $400 that could've gone towards my 4090 on a Motherboard-CPU-RAM combo deal, is there a cheaper solution to get my bluetooth keyboard to work?

#

I honestly think I'm blowing this out of proportion and might end up spending $400 for a 13% performance upgrade

dusky hearth
#

first try just buying an antenna set for your mobo

untold vessel
dusky hearth
#

if that doesnt work (also remember to install your bluetooth drivers) you can buy a usb bluetooth trancever that just plugs into an external usb port on your pc

cyan ravine
dusky hearth
#

(which will also likely need drivers to be installed)

cyan ravine
#

👋 fr

untold vessel
#

Okay okay okay

#

Got thihs

dusky hearth
#

yeah those 2 drivers

untold vessel
#

But I don't have this model, I have the special version that computer builders get to buy

#

it adds a dash and one letter to the end of the name, or something; Can't remember

dusky hearth
#

assuming those ones use the same connector (fairly likely), you're going to need to buy SMA antennas

lone flame
#

@fringe iris that color scheme in #build-pics is so cool

untold vessel
#

I'll be home in about 5 minutes to give you more info

dusky hearth
#

that's the connector

obsidian wigeon
#

it's the type of connector

dusky hearth
#

"SubMiniature version A"

#

you'll need 2 of them

#

(often you'll find them sold in pairs of 2)

#

brb

fringe iris
lone flame
dusky hearth
#

You can't filter evade here lmao

#

Or at least be more subtle 💀

lyric thistle
#

Peepee poopoo

dusky hearth
#

Balls

lone flame
#

what'd you use for rgb control

earnest olive
#

🙂

lone flame
#

huh

teal dome
#

Banned

earnest olive
#

one filter evade isn’t worth a ban

#

just delete the message

fringe iris
# lone flame what'd you use for rgb control

I just use the lian li one and thats it, gigabyte software for gpu and nzxt for the display on the kraken.. i got annoyed using aio rgb because it kept detecting some and not all and then wasnt consistent with colors

earnest olive
#

I use openrgb for my fans, openrgb for my gpu, openrgb for my aio, and wallpaper engine for my internal display

fringe iris
#

I tried signalrgb but for some reason it would work perfectly for my razer mouse and keyboard and then the coloring would be off on my gskill ram and the rest… i kept trying to fix it but i had to like enable and disable stuff everytime i started up.. it was irritating lol..

earnest olive
#

openrgb worked great on every rgb ram kit I tried with it

#

but now I have something that looks better than rgb

#

ddr3 heatsinks

fringe iris
#

😂 ill have to try openrgb then and see if it detects and keeps everything.. with a restart too

earnest olive
#

you can set it to load a profile at startup

fringe iris
#

Ill have to try that then thanks

limber oyster
#

Question. I'm looking for like a reddish orange coolant for my build. I already have red. Can I partially drain and add yellow of the same brand or should I fully drain and add new?

hot monolith
#

is there a channel I could get help in with my RGB issues

dusky hearth
#

You can just ask here

hot monolith
#

alright

#

well at default RGB settings both my CPU cooler and LED strip (came with the case) are flickering (cooler on the top left, strip right at the end), and when I change my rgb settings using armoury crate, certain rgb modes like breathing cause everything to spazz out and erratically change colours

#

not sure what could be the issue

earnest olive
#

are they hooked up to the same controller/header?

#

try checking if the connection is good

hot monolith
nova apex
#

https://a.co/d/cBEFRPj is this a good cpu cooler? also does it fit my cpu and board

cpu: intel i5 12400f
mb: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700

earnest olive
#

maybe it’s just struggling to supply enough amperage?

#

if you’re chaining a lot to it

#

idk how many leds are in that led strip

cursive wharf
cyan ravine
#

Or is it SE 224XT? I can't remember

nova apex
#

came broken last night, and it was honestly so confusing to put in

hot monolith
cursive wharf
earnest olive
#

I think it means how many can it address

#

but can it power 500

cyan ravine
nova apex
#

i couldn’t get the screws to fit inside the holes on brackets

#

i returned it dw

#

but i need one now and the one i sent just clips in like the intel cooler i have which is easier

hot monolith
# earnest olive but can it power 500

my PSU is 750 watts, GPU 6700xt and CPU 5600 - back when i built the pc I think most website showed that I had 200 or so watts to spare, so I think it should have enough power

earnest olive
#

not the power supply

#

rgb header has its own amperage limit

#

usually 1A I think

cursive wharf
#

2a is standard iirc

hot monolith
#

oh

cursive wharf
#

maybe it is 1a tho

hot monolith
#

if 1 RGB item in the "circuit" is faulty or not working properly, could it affect other ones?

earnest olive
#

2A should be able to handle what you’re doing

#

maybe it varies by board

#

try unplugging the led strip and see if the cpu cooler still has issues

hot monolith
#

how would I go about unplugging the led strip? I didn't touch any of the RGB stuff that was already in the case

earnest olive
#

oh

#

what is it hooked up to?

cyan ravine
hot monolith
#

I think the controller that's on the front of the case (my case is a g360a) Although im not sure since I haven't messed with any of that stuff

cursive wharf
earnest olive
#

ah, phanteks

#

idk, I’ve definitely hooked up more than that to g360a controller before

#

something else is wrong

#

what software you using? maybe try openrgb

hot monolith
#

I tried armoury crate and signal rgb, both lead to buggy fans

#

I'll try openrgb now

cursive wharf
#

Hook up RGB directly to mobo? This way you're only testing one device rather then three (two RGB devices and one controller/hub).

hot monolith
#

everything is already connected to the motherboard - I don't have any extra fans besides what came with the case, and I've only added the CPU cooler into the daisy chain for the 3 case fans, so in total there's 4 fans and 1 led strip going into the motherboard on the same header

#

ok well I just noticed a few things

#

led strip never changed colour

#

changes

#

when I change all the RGB colours

#

very light blue causes no flickering on the CPU cooler but the led strip remains unchanged, red causes CPU cooler to flicker

cursive wharf
#

And you want to test each thing individually at this point IMO. Really looks like a defective RGB device doing something. That or two+ processes are writing to the RGB controller at once.

golden forge
#

Is there a legitmite way to know if a CPU and GPU combo will have a bottleneck? A bottleneck that will hinder performance more than a few percentage points, that is. I don't trust any of these bottleneck calculators. I am specifically looking at the 5800x 3D and 7900 XTX.

mossy venture
#

Nothing noticeable at 4k

mossy venture
#

I wouldnt worry about it personally

cyan ravine
#

7900xt is a better match

dusky hearth
#

there's always one somewhere

golden forge
cyan ravine
#

Iirc in synthetics it's about 5-10%

#

It's not true for all games

#

And not truly representative

earnest olive
cyan ravine
#

But it is pushing the limits of the cpu a bit

dusky hearth
#

as long as you arent gaming with a epyc and 1650

cyan ravine
#

Hence me suggesting 7900xt

#

Both xt and xtx are at pretty awesome prices rn

earnest olive
#

well are you gonna use that xtx at 1440p or 4k

cyan ravine
#

So either one wouldn't be a bad idea

earnest olive
#

don’t say 1080p

cyan ravine
#

Lol

dusky hearth
#

one thousand and eighty progressive

cyan ravine
#

Yeah everything I'm saying is for 1440p btw

earnest olive
#

5800x3d + 7900xtx at 1440p is probably fine honestly

cyan ravine
#

1080p is a huge bottleneck

earnest olive
#

look at how crap all the new games run at 1440p anyways

cyan ravine
#

4k is basically nill

golden forge
# cyan ravine It's not true for all games

Right. Thats why I was aking if there was a way to find that info out. Other than actually playing each game or doing specifically CPU and GPU heavy tasks separately to find any potential bottleneck issues. ITs not like I am using a Ryzen 3 4100 with a 4090 GPU, lol.

cyan ravine
#

There's no easy answer there unless you go straight for the gullet

#

Comb benchmark scoreboards

#

Find people

dusky hearth
cyan ravine
#

Search forums

#

Etc etc

earnest olive
#

wish I still had my i3-12100 and i7-4790K to test with my 4080 lol

cyan ravine
#

Every reviewer has a different answer to your question and it's often through wildly different test methods

hot monolith
#

how do I get rid of open rgbs settings? Like make it go back to factory default

earnest olive
#

my i7-4790K put up a shockingly good fight with a 3080

#

overclocked ddr3 putting in work

cyan ravine
#

You won't get a totally clear answer out of what is essentially "gpu busy" being at full tilt without someone else running basically identical hardware telling you it does or not lol

#

And with so many combos for reviews it goes all.over the place

#

Especially for mid range

golden forge
# earnest olive don’t say 1080p

I have four monitors. One of them being 4K and one being 1920x1080. On the 1080 monitor (24.5 in, 240 hz), I play competitive games and when I play somehting like Assassins Creed or single player/story mode games, I will play on the 4k screen. When looking at the GPU, I wanted to go for the XTX mainly for future proof. I have been going back and forth between just upgrading to a AM5 based system, but that means a new mobo, CPU, and Ram... plus the GPU. So right now I am just looking at upgrading the CPU on AM4 and the GPU. The 4080 is out of the running because of its atrocious pricing.

earnest olive
#

at 4K you're gonna have no meaningful bottleneck

#

the 7900xtx is gonna be asleep in esports but I'm sure you already know that

#

even your 2080ti is so laughably overkill for esports

cyan ravine
#

Tbh yeah

#

1080p is a joke to either of those gpus

earnest olive
#

I mean...

#

you can definitely bring the 2080ti to its knees at 1080p

#

just not in esports

#

maybe if it's one of the heavier ones like apex

cyan ravine
#

Yeah, but I wouldn't call that reasonable means lol

#

Well apex idk

earnest olive
#

don't think the 2080ti maintains 240 fps 1% lows in apex at 1080p max

cyan ravine
#

Lol

earnest olive
#

but if you cared that much you wouldn't be running max settings anyways

#

meanwhile my 1660ti pushed 1214 fps in 1440p val

golden forge
#

Rarely any of the games I play, even at lowest settings, will go to 240 fps (240 hz monitor). Hmmm. It could just be that the games are mor eCPU intensive. Usually my GPU is running at 100%, both in Task Manager and HWMonitor. So I assumed my GPU would need the upgrade. I'll upgrade to the 5800x 3D first and see what that does before doing anything with my GPU. Maybe its a CPU "issue".

#

And the 5800x 3D just dropped to $359 on Newegg, so I am picking it up for sure.

cyan ravine
#

359??

golden forge
#

19% drop since adding to my cart

cyan ravine
golden forge
#

All AMD chips just dropped, it seems

cyan ravine
#

How much is a 7600, I wonder...

#

It's faster than a 5800x3d

#

But you also get ddr5 and am5

#

Kinda worth it

#

I mean if you're happy to spend 359 and flip a cpu, you could def spend $69 more and flip your am4 mobo and ddr4 as well

#

You'd break lower overall and save money tbh

#

Bit more of a hassle but you get the creases out of the build a little earlier

#

And you save money doing it

golden forge
#

I am looking over the builds you made me the other day. Decisions decisions.

cyan ravine
#

I completely forgot until you wrote decisions decisions

#

I'm guessing I had something similar

nova apex
cyan ravine
#

I've seen that cooler before

#

Can't say I'm a big fan of it

#

It's a big fan, though

#

It probably works for 12400? But no promises

#

Definitely single tower worthy* that cpu is

golden forge
#

If I go the the AM5 route, would it just be worth it to build a new PC? At the end of the day, I am upgrading my CPU, RAM, Motherboard, and GPU. If I want to sell my AM4 systems, I would think it would be easier to sell as a whole PC instead for parts.

cyan ravine
#

I mean you could go either way tbh

#

Selling the whole pc kinda worth but I'd take the storage out and bring it along

earnest olive
#

if you're willing to put in the work of setting everything up again then full new pc is a good idea

#

storage is super cheap now

#

you can often get a premium for selling a full working machine compared to parting it out

golden forge
earnest olive
#

okay 8tb m.2 is still not cheap to replace

#

but the rest is very cheap

#

4tb m.2 is sub 150 these days i think

mossy venture
#

I think they have been sub 140 but they're not consistently

earnest olive
#

neat

mossy venture
#

Cheapest worth it is mp34 at $162 rn

golden forge
obsidian wigeon
#

massively overkill and overpriced ngl

obsidian wigeon
#

like use case

#

asking because i need to figure out how to recommend you to the right parts

fleet heron
#

Yea that's unnecessarily expensive

cyan ravine
#

Most of that he owns guys

obsidian wigeon
#

aha

#

ok, then my bad

golden forge
#

There is a whole convo above, but in simple terms, its if I upgraded to an AM5 setup. This is just what the cost would be if I just made a new PC altogether. Not including the GPU.

tawny violet
#

Wait you have a 7900X3D?

cyan ravine
#

Case psu ssd cooler

tawny violet
#

Wryyyyy

cyan ravine
#

Iirc

#

He doesn't

#

You own the ssd right?

tawny violet
#

If you wanna game
7800X3D
if you wanna do other stuff
7950X

obsidian wigeon
#

A few parts are bought, like case and ssd?

potent portal
tawny violet
#

7900X3D to me feels really underwhelming

cyan ravine
#

7900x3d is kinda good tbh

obsidian wigeon
#

it's a decent in-between for gaming and workstation

cyan ravine
#

Where's the lists

#

Hold on

potent portal
#

You can mark parts as purchased with the little cog wheel by the price

cyan ravine
#

Here

tawny violet
#

I don't really like the other X3D chips honestly

cyan ravine
#

@golden forge if you don't own the 980 pro I strongly advise against buying one

#

Idk if we ever talked about that

obsidian wigeon
#

thx

obsidian wigeon
#

just bad value

golden forge
#

My main question was do I stay with AM4 or go to AM5. So if I upgraded to AM5, I would be replacing the CPU, Ram, and Motherboard. I am also looking to replace my 2080 ti, but I am fine with keeping GPU for now. However, I am also looking at the re-sell value of selling the parts separately vs as one full PC. So the build I posted above is what the estimated cost would be for a new build, not including the 2080ti. But I have to sit down and do the math. What is easier may not be in my best interest.

cyan ravine
#

It's always been poor value pretty much

cyan ravine
#

If you want a totally new build I could swap some things, I'd keep the case, cooler and psu tho tbh

#

Use those yourself

#

Idk, up to you tbh

cyan ravine
#

But the others not really, those are kind of worth keeping

#

Gpu you could go either way

lone flame
mossy venture
#

yeah 1080 ti and 2080 ti

flint sapphire
#

Hey Felix make a mid range gaming pc but sff pepehmmm

flint sapphire
#

800-1200

#

Baca is now a Felix

mossy venture
flint sapphire
#

Oooo very fancy pepehmmm

mossy venture
#

5600 is $1 more than 5600x now

earnest olive
#

but it's worth more because it's more power efficient obviously /s

#

can't have that 5600x hitting such dangerous temperatures like 70c

desert gulch
#

Dummy

earnest olive
#

but my friend said his 5600x was overheating to 60c in fortnite under his hyper 212 and after upgrading to 5600 it only hits 59c

#

smh my head

desert gulch
#

Must've been due to replacing the paste smh

cursive wharf
#

X is 10, 5600x means 5600 times 10. So 5600x is 600c when 5600 is 60c.

mossy venture
jagged ember
#

Guys I found the x

dusky hearth
#

i know what x is

#

but im not telling you

terse jackal
#

Any suggestions?

#

Yes the mobo is overkill he’s not worried about the money necessarily as far as me trying to talk him down in that department

mossy venture
#

does he care about looks, and if yes what aesthetic does he want

terse jackal
#

He didn’t name an aesthetic but said he cares about RGB. He doesn’t really wanna go over $1,600

mossy venture
#

for black and white

hot monolith
#

after tinkering around with RGB flickering issues

#

I found out that for some reason

#

if I press my case controls

#

for the rgb

#

2 buttons, my RGB slightly changes but only on the CPU cooler and RGB strip

#

The 3 front fans are unaffacted

#

Those buttons should be disabled, considering I plugged in an RGB cable into the motherboard

#

Anyone have any idea what this means? Why are the case buttons not disabled?

dusky hearth
#

did the case include a manual

#

maybe see that

mossy venture
#

for nvidia best you could do is 4070 ti, which loses to the 7900xt, let alone xtx

hot monolith
dusky hearth
#

hmm

#

wait

#

what are the cables to the case

#

is there like

#

one molex or sata, and one argb?

#

if there is a power connector in your case, try disconnecting that

mossy venture
hot monolith
# dusky hearth one molex or sata, and one argb?

not really sure, think I remember seeing a molex. I connected the sata to the PSU, the argb from the case I connected to my CPU cooler in a daisy chain (and the CPU cooler into the motherboards argb header)

#

tomorrow I will try disconnecting all the fans from the daisy chain and going through them one by one

dusky hearth
#

im assuming that you have the molex plugged in which is sending power to the case's rgb controller, so its making the rgb flicker

hot monolith
#

built the pc a while ago - forgot what if there was a molex so I most likely didn't touch it

dusky hearth
#

hmm

hot monolith
#

Could it be a compatibility issue between the case's controller and my motherboard?

dusky hearth
#

i doubt it

#

it's not a digital signal afaik

manic cloak
#

anybody here know how to remove the autofill stuff

#

on chrome btw. I've done a few video guides and it keeps saving my info no matter what I try, google just being google

earnest olive
teal dome
#

Should I get this bundle?

#

In microcenter store

#

Also should I pick this up?

nova apex
#

where does this fan go i’m so confused

teal dome
#

On the cooler lol

#

Like there should be clips so you can put on the cooler

#

It came with the cooler right?

nova apex
#

right but how, instructions doesn’t have anything abt putting the fan on

#

yes came with cooler

#

214 cr

teal dome
#

Check manual

nova apex
#

did, doesn’t say anything

teal dome
#

@earnest olive

teal dome
teal dome
#

So like around 220

manic cloak
#

is the 12600kf on sale on tiktok shop

mossy venture
manic cloak
#

nope it isn't

teal dome
manic cloak
#

16gb of ddr4

#

tho

teal dome
#

Is that worth

mossy venture
#

What about 5500 on tt shop after the coupon?

#

It might be $60

#

And yeah imo

teal dome
#

92

mossy venture
#

It's $80 before the new user coupon rn

teal dome
#

With taxes

mossy venture
#

Idk if the coupon works tho

teal dome
#

It’s 92 with taxes

teal dome
#

It’s 5 dollar shipping

#

How do I remove shipping

mossy venture
#

Might not be able to

#

$65 for a 5500 is pretty nice

manic cloak
#

for what item

#

fr

teal dome
#

Is that worth?

#

99 on Amazon

#

Without taxes and all that

mossy venture
teal dome
#

Go for the 5500??

mossy venture
teal dome
#

Don’t got that much rn plus I don’t need all that for 6700xt

mossy venture
#

That's fair, the 5600x would be more worth than the 5500 then

teal dome
#

I mean I want the best budget honestly

mossy venture
#

Yeah

teal dome
#

The motherboard kinda mid no?

#

Is it alright

#
#

This is what I was gonna go originally

mossy venture
#

You can do a 12100f on tiktok shop potentially

teal dome
#

i3?

mossy venture
#

Yeah

teal dome
#

What do you suggest ?

mossy venture
#

$72 before shipping for me

#

How much would it be after shipping for you?

teal dome
#

After?

#

Idk I don’t have the coupon

mossy venture
#

$77

teal dome
#

I have another coupon tho

#

I mean account

mossy venture
#

Ah

teal dome
#

But wouldn’t I pay more for the lga motherboard?

mossy venture
#

Eh nvm it's not worth

#

You'd save maybe $10-15 total

teal dome
#

True

teal dome
#

Aio one fan

obsidian wigeon
#

nope

#

120mm aios are loud

teal dome
#

Aight

teal dome
#

There’s TikTok where I can get cpu for pretty cheap

#

120 for 5600 and 95 for 5500 with shipping and all that

#

And there’s also a microcenter deal for mobo and 5600x for 200

#

Idk what should I buy?

round cloud
#

It’s time

lone flame
teal dome
mossy venture
#

Felix?

round cloud
#

Nah I did it all my self

#

Jk

#

I’m stuck lol

#

Not sure about the m2 and heat sink

#

Oh

leaden mauve
#

baller

terse jackal
obsidian wigeon
#

overpriced is what i'd say

terse jackal
#

I know the mobo is overpriced he won’t budge

#

Anything else

obsidian wigeon
#

underperforming gpu for the price

terse jackal
#

4070ti then?

obsidian wigeon
#

overspending on aio

terse jackal
#

It’s a LF2?

#

Since when was that overspending

obsidian wigeon
#

12600kf doesn't need 360mm

terse jackal
#

Ah

#

Gotcha

obsidian wigeon
#

and there's frozen notte for aio

#

240mm frozen notte is like $60 i believe

terse jackal
#

Okay for the GPU what alternative

obsidian wigeon
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it has rgb so he might like it

terse jackal
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I just installed it in my rig

obsidian wigeon
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lemme make a new list but keep the parts your friend wants

terse jackal
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Thank you :)

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Appreciate it

obsidian wigeon
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See what he thinks about radeon gpu

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6950xt matches 4070ti in perf

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But $200 less

terse jackal
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Yeah no i totally agree about the GPU but he really wants nvidia

obsidian wigeon
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Case I swapped for pop air

terse jackal
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Like how can i convince him

obsidian wigeon
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Tell him that he will have to spend a good amount more just to achieve same performance amd offers

lone flame
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6950 XT sounds cooler too

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obv the real reason

obsidian wigeon
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cuz this is what a 4070ti build looks like

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shame your friend wouldn't budge on board

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otherwise

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he could go amd am5

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and have better gaming experience

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just took almost 100 off going amd lol

cyan ravine
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Wth is that mobo

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And if the lad is after ray tracing link him this video, one sec

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Non-RT (To quote the video "Would have been significantly faster overall if we ignored DX11 fortnite")

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Vs. A 4080, not 4070 TI

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4070 TI is like a good, 20%? Slower

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So it's hardly any competition to an XTX

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This video came out today so it's very relevant

teal dome
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Is 4x8 gb good for ddr4?

cyan ravine
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It's fine

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Any reason?

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It usually costs more

teal dome
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I’m buying used

cyan ravine
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It's fine then

teal dome
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Also 32gb rgb ram for 50?

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Yay or nay

cyan ravine
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That's the same as new

teal dome
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Is the corsair one

cyan ravine
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Ew

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No

teal dome
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Ok

cyan ravine
teal dome
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The 4x8 one is also corsair

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And it’s rgb as well lol

cyan ravine
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I bet it's vengeance rgb

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And 3200 cl16

teal dome
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It’s up for 70 tho

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Cringe

cyan ravine
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Absolutely no

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Rubbish kits

teal dome
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I can prob talk it down or some

cyan ravine
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Corsair ddr4 was arguably corsairs worst run with ram

teal dome
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What about t force Vulcan 16 Gb for 30

cyan ravine
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Nyo

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That's new price

teal dome
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What if I talk it down to 20?

cyan ravine
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Yes

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That's good

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32gb used for 40 is good

teal dome
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Ok I will ask

cyan ravine
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16gb for 20 also good

teal dome
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I asked and they said 50

cyan ravine
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Well screw them then lmao

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Silicon power is new for 50

teal dome
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Yeah rather b uy that ong

cyan ravine
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That's a terrible deal they're offering kekw

teal dome
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New is 80 I think

cyan ravine
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For the layman sure

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But for an enthusiast it's rubbish

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Lipstick on a pig situation

teal dome
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Who is a layman

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Stop using big words fr

cyan ravine
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Lol

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A casual person