building-and-recc-chat

[tawny violet]

Though I did cheap TF out on memory admittedly

@primal linden

There's 20 bucks of wiggle room so
You could adjust things
Perhaps the Corsair PSU is a splurge but it's better to have an A-tier PSU

You can probably downgrade to a 12400 if you want faster RAM or a prettier case

[primal linden]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kd9z7R the 6950 xt was 530 at one point

rate it

i like it

[tawny violet]

K CPU

non-OC motherboard

[primal linden]

wiw

ohh

[tawny violet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DvjxcH

@yes.3548 upgraded it to 1tb storage for you

[primal linden]

kewl

[tawny violet]

Dammit @primal linden I can't ping you in the previous message
But this is about as far as I can stretch it rn

Hopefully you have other storage with your own data to add to it cuz 1tb novadays do be feeling a little limiting NGL

I could try adding a smaller fast SSD and a SATA SSD for games
But cba

[primal linden]

nah dw about it

[tawny violet]

Tbf that would probably give a better experience

Just cuz you would have more space for games

Lemme see

[mossy venture]

yes

[primal linden]

ok

i wonder if black friday is gonna affect it

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vGJ9N6

I'd do that instead tho

6950xt not worth $100 over 7800xt

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CLWBD3/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6900xt-pgd-16go or this

[primal linden]

intresting

interesting

inttertastae

[tawny violet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qKqnL9
This is the 6950XT maxed out budget variant

I can try seeing how it pans out with other GPUs at around 620 dollars @primal linden

[dusky hearth]

i would say get the 7800xt

[white osprey]

best deal for 1440p monitor cheap? im thinking this one https://www.microcenter.com/product/671196/hyperx-armada-27-2k-qhd-(2560-x-1440)-165hz-gaming-monitor thoughts?!

[tawny violet]

How about a 4070?

[primal linden]

EHHHHHHHHH

[tawny violet]

Would a 7800XT beat a 4070?

[primal linden]

i think so

[mossy venture]

yes

[tawny violet]

I genuinely don't know

[primal linden]

4070 is 7800 xt main competitor so

[tawny violet]

Ah

Makes sense

Yeah 7800XT it is

Though

The 6900XT/6950XT might beat a 7800XT depending on price

[tawny violet]

#peripherals-and-displays people have the means to help

Or #old-monitors-and-tv

[mossy venture]

thats good yeah

[flint sapphire]

It’s a great deal

Getting that stand with it is excellent imo

[dusky hearth]

for the price, sheeesh yeah that is quite a good deal
95% dci-p3 coverage, which is fairly decent as well (could be better though)

but for the price, i would buy

[tawny violet]

@primal linden anyhow
I'd recommend that list I sent you and see what's the best performing GPU you can get for 630 bucks at the time of your purchase

[dusky hearth]

gaming monitor so there isnt really a need for a high colour accuracy

[primal linden]

im prob gonna go with the 7800 xt just cause its only 500

[tawny violet]

I do think you'd get more out of that 13400 than a 7600 (although at the price of upgrade potential later)

[mossy venture]

7600 beats the 13400 by a good bit wdym

[dusky hearth]

let's be real
are you really going to upgrade the cpu much between the generations
you might be buying a new mobo when you upgrade the cpu anyways tbh

and there's still no guarentee of how long the am5 socket will last

[tawny violet]

I don't think I can fit a B650 mobo into that budget
Mainly cuz the 6950XT ate most of it

Now with a 7800XT
Yeah I can see the reason

[dusky hearth]

but yes, the 7600 is better than the 13400 currently

[tawny violet]

But as he asked for a set GPU
I worked around that

[mossy venture]

q300l also isn't a great case, it's pretty old and has some pretty big downsides

p3 also overpriced

[tawny violet]

Besides a 13400-6950XT combo is I think pretty balanced

[tawny violet]

It was kind of a quick and dirty list
I never said it was the best list out there, all I said was it fit the budget and has the parts

[mossy venture]

im not trying to be rude, and im not saying the list is bad there's just better out there

[tawny violet]

I did suggest to look for a case they like

Cuz that's partially preference anyway

[primal linden]

yeah i got one

[tawny violet]

And I'm trying to learn more about the things I know less
I don't know that much about SSDs and cases

So I'm bound to mess up occasionally

But hey at least the case has a mesh front so it'll actually breathe right?

[mossy venture]

that's actually one of the big downsides of the q300l, even though it's mesh it's airflow is pretty dismal

[tawny violet]

Bugger

See I had no clue

[mossy venture]

ye it's annoying, but it's a good case for low budget builds around the $500-700 mark depending on pricing of other parts

cable management is also very annoying in it

[tawny violet]

Yeah fair

It is what it is
Now I know not to recommend it to anyone

[mossy venture]

and yeah I get it, I always try to not be rude when critiquing anyones lists or part choices

better to explain something than demean someone

[tawny violet]

As for the P3
It's speedy and reliable (from my personal experience anyway)

[mossy venture]

it's not a bad drive, just not good for the price anymore

[tawny violet]

I don't think 40 bucks is that much for what it does

[mossy venture]

m450 is a good bit better and $28 after rebate

[tawny violet]

The MSI one?

[mossy venture]

yeah

[tawny violet]

Huh
TMYK

I just now learned they make NVME SSDs

[mossy venture]

psu was a good choice, just udgm is fine for the gpu and $20 less

[tawny violet]

I will keep an eye out

[tawny violet]

I knew it was an A-tier so it was an easy choice

[mossy venture]

ram was good too, but a lot of people don't put the effort into ram tuning, so if they're just running it at stock it'd be a lot worse than 5600c32

[primal linden]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Bhp28

[mossy venture]

thats ddr4 with a ddr5 cpu

[primal linden]

oh

shoot

im too used to making am4 builds

[tawny violet]

@primal linden change the RAM to DDR5 and yeet the cooler

[mossy venture]

cheapest 5600c32 kit or better would be fine

[tawny violet]

Saves you 20 bucks

[mossy venture]

and coolers not needed like blackhole said, but if you want rgb it's fine

[tawny violet]

Yeah it's purely aesthetic for a 7600

Box cooler perfectly fine

[mossy venture]

b650 doesn't really offer anything over the a620, but if you want it whatever

[primal linden]

anybody know any good kits

[tawny violet]

I can check for you

[mossy venture]

the teamgroup kit i linked is the cheapest gauranteed hynix that doesn't need tuning

[tawny violet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FJmcTY

I splurged a little on faster RAM (cuz IIRC the memory controller can lock frequencies at 6000MHz)

So it'd give you better performance

[primal linden]

ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fYQbh3

[tawny violet]

Why are you not keeping the Corsair PSU?

[primal linden]

oh

mb

[mossy venture]

the d.f2 is a fine choice

both would be more than enough

same with udgm

[tawny violet]

Yeah
The RM is 10 dollars cheaper

That's like the only reason I'm asking lmao

[mossy venture]

not including rebate tho

[tawny violet]

Eeeeehh

[dusky hearth]

rebates take forever fr

[tawny violet]

I'd rather not have to wait yeah

[dusky hearth]

all my rebate money from my gpu

took like 3 months lmao

[primal linden]

https://www.newegg.com/white-corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139191 theres this but it only comes with 2 fans

[tawny violet]

Oh

I'd not recommend for a 1200 USD build

It's a good case but
You need fans for it

[primal linden]

damn shame

[tawny violet]

And pricey

[dusky hearth]

it's a good case, but on a budget, maybe not the most budget friendly

[tawny violet]

Yeah it's good stuff

But not for your budget

[dusky hearth]

wait

oh that includes the psu

[mossy venture]

udgm 850 is $80 i think w no rebate

B tier

[tawny violet]

But it's 185 without fans

[mossy venture]

and ye 4000d airflow is good but not for the price

[tawny violet]

I still don't think that's worth ot

[mossy venture]

g300a+psu+fans is still a decent bit less than that 4000d airflow with rm850e

[tawny violet]

Like the RM750e and the Bitfenix is 156 USD together

[dusky hearth]

yeah g300a would make more sense

[primal linden]

aHHHH ok

[tawny violet]

@mossy venture Bitfenix Nova not good enough?

[mossy venture]

it's fine, I'd take g300a over it though

[primal linden]

i was gonna go with a phanteks one but the bitfenix one does come with 4 rgb fans

[mossy venture]

3 pack c12c is $12

[tawny violet]

4 fans should be enough tho

[primal linden]

it is

[mossy venture]

g300a+fans is $63 and is pretty nice for cable management and such, albeit a bit small

[primal linden]

theres also a g360a

[mossy venture]

it's just a smaller g360a

[dusky hearth]

artic p12 value pack

[jagged ember]

Just arctic fans in general tbh

[mossy venture]

c12c has outmatched p12 for value atp

[tawny violet]

5 fans for like 10 bucks

[dusky hearth]

how are acoustics

[tawny violet]

Not the non-RGB one

[mossy venture]

isn't p12 5 pack around $24

[tawny violet]

No?

[mossy venture]

c12c non rgb is $11.90 for non rgb, rgb is $12.90

[mossy venture]

what's it at?

it's showing cheapest is 24 on pcp

might not be showing tho

[tawny violet]

Amazon has it at 40
But

It's way cheaper here

[mossy venture]

they're a bit worse than p12 but not by far

[primal linden]

so if i have one phanteks fan and 3 thermalright fans could i make them the same color

[tawny violet]

Probably some sort of anomaly

[mossy venture]

openrgb

ye

[tawny violet]

Motherboard ARGB software or OpenRGB

[primal linden]

alrighty

[tawny violet]

It's not that difficult just takes some setting up

[primal linden]

can you tell the difference

[dusky hearth]

pwm 5 pack is 34.45 if not on sale on amazon
dc 5 pack is 24 on amazon

[tawny violet]

Again
I can get it cheaper here in a local shop

So it's better value for me

Mixed it up a bit cuz it's 10-effing-PN for me and I'm still on my phone browsing PC parts for a stranger's build 😄

I'm perfectly responsible as an adult amirite?

[dusky hearth]

only 10pm?

i do it till 1am some nights 💀

[primal linden]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006269/amd-ryzen-7-7700x,-msi-b650-p-pro-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle ist thist gud?

[mossy venture]

Yes

[primal linden]

ok

[mossy venture]

Best bundle mc has rn

[primal linden]

could i use https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B1H1B9TV/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A2SOZ46JN0X2C6&psc=1 this for it

[mossy venture]

I'd go for a dual tower personally

Like pa120 se

[primal linden]

this? https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-SE-ARGB-TL-C12C-S-Technology/dp/B09P4M4C7K/ref=asc_df_B09P4M4C7K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=647178125460&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1804554230722387023&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9004164&hvtargid=pla-1637143491009&gclid=CjwKCAjw38SoBhB6EiwA8EQVLia_mDAySKH4L9kDEqgQN2ws7gP1G-uGWZ0uUbZoiYCdYRa32Vko7hoC-eUQAvD_BwE&th=1

[mossy venture]

Ye that's good

@bitter mason

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

thanks

[primal linden]

https://tenor.com/view/injustice2-raiden-god-of-thunder-raiden-god-of-thunder-thunder-gif-20122405

yay

orange mushroom saved the day

[mossy venture]

Ty sips

[viral horizon]

just curious

my case has its case fans and switches and such connected to a small board on the back of it

should i unplug them and put them onto the motherboard?

and also just curious

would a computer start working without the gpu or cpu

not like to even boot

but would the case and the other components start to function?

[stoic island]

hub is there to take up less headers since you only have so many headers

[stoic island]

no

in most cases, it will not respond at all without a CPU

[viral horizon]

alright thanks man

hey are you getting the new nordic dlc when it comes out or

[little osprey]

is this worth buying?

[weary galleon]

not a terrible deal or anything but i always recommend building your own

[dusky hearth]

usd?

[weary galleon]

it really isn't hard

[dusky hearth]

offer them 900 for it i guess
do some bartering

er

that's not the word

haggle

yeah that's it

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p3Mt89

Would perform better in games

And that's new, could do even better used

[weary galleon]

Drop the 32gb ram down to 16 and get a b450 or b550

[mossy venture]

For why

That a520 is fine for a 5800x3d

[weary galleon]

Doesn't a520 only have one nvme slot

Maybe I'm tripping

This is what I would do
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7HMvj

[mossy venture]

For why tho

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/THjVcH

16gb doesn't make sense in this budget anymore when 32gb is only $20 more

[obsidian wigeon]

1k you can go am5

but gpu will be stepped down

[cyan ravine]

Why b550

Go back to tuf wifi

[obsidian wigeon]

it's $85 tho

[weary galleon]

$100 for a board with one m.2 slot seems weird to me idk

[cyan ravine]

Paying $15 more for wifi isn't though

[mossy venture]

There's $20 wifi 6 cards, it's not terrible, and better wifi. I would go for the a520 tho

[weary galleon]

by default I just tend to assume people are using Ethernet

[mossy venture]

A majority of people are not

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

There are also sata slots anyway

You should be thinking about lemonade at this level as much as possible

[mossy venture]

Yeah can get a 4tb hdd for mass storage fine if just gaming, if you need faster storage Sata ssds are fairly cheap too

If need fast storage 4tb gen 4 ud90 is $160

Or 4tb xs70 is $200

[cyan ravine]

Or up to 2tb 670p

And go 6800xt for a tiny bit less

[weary galleon]

A520 is great until you want to expand your storage down the line without swapping and selling drives (source: me. I bought a520 and can't fit my second drive)

[mossy venture]

I mean also just https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YTxJfy

[mossy venture]

There's sata ports tho

Like felix said

[weary galleon]

True

[mossy venture]

That b550 has two nvme slots though

Wifi included in list $995

[weary galleon]

M450 1tb is cheaper than the cheapest 1tb sata lmao

(by like $5, still funny though)

[mossy venture]

Also 3 nvme slots with wifi on mobo https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wfcnL9

Wifi 6e too

[cyan ravine]

Think the pro would be better in that scenario if specifically needed

You only really need 1 nvme tho

[mossy venture]

Plus wifi def far better vrms

Than the vc wifi

[cyan ravine]

Probably yeah

[mossy venture]

If its just a gaming pc I'd 100% recc tuf wifi, no reason that secondary ssds need to be nvmes

4tb a55 was just what, $145?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

A55 is amazing I have like 6 of them

Just cheap, functional, simple

A60 in a sata slot lol

You won't get the burst speeds of an nvme but you will get the sustained speeds lol

[manic cloak]

HOLT MOLY

@obsidian wigeon

[obsidian wigeon]

what is that cable

[cyan ravine]

Why the psu cable

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

Anyway that looks nice

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[manic cloak]

He has benches so

[obsidian wigeon]

nice if legit

[cyan ravine]

Just remember the usual seller precautions

*goes into mom mode *

[manic cloak]

Looks legit to me

He wants to meet in safe spot

Willing to have it tested

[lyric thistle]

If the seller lies, steal his eyes

[cyan ravine]

Paypal G&S?

[manic cloak]

Cash, in person

Or well

He could do that too

But since it’s fbm it’s likely cash

[cyan ravine]

Ask him for paypal G&S

[manic cloak]

Alr

[cyan ravine]

Cash is a red flag imo

[cyan ravine]

Cos after it's exchanged they disappear

[leaden mauve]

literally just ask for them to test it with you

[obsidian wigeon]

mom mode

[cyan ravine]

We've had people in here who've had bad days with cash and fbm

[leaden mauve]

cash is not a red flag

[leaden mauve]

user error

™️

[manic cloak]

Uhhh question

Is there a basic zotac ver and an Oc version?

[cyan ravine]

Doesn't matter

[manic cloak]

Cause I see zotac gaming and trinity oc

[cyan ravine]

Silicon is the same

[manic cloak]

Ag

Ah

[cyan ravine]

Not everyone can or want to bring a pc willingly to an exchange

Some people have rigs that weigh like 20kg

Idk, I know sips does in person testing

You ain't wrong

[manic cloak]

Idk how I’d bring that to my Starbucks

Considering I don’t drive

Unless I get a buddy

Should I get this card and resell?

Cause I really want the 6800xt tbh

429.99 with starfield promo still

[cyan ravine]

Aren't you doing a build for your cousin?

That would slap

[leaden mauve]

read the description 💀

[manic cloak]

I am but like

I need a better gpu

[cyan ravine]

It's not saying "I will bring my pc" anywhere

[leaden mauve]

are you okay

[cyan ravine]

No

[leaden mauve]

[leaden mauve]

i have the solution

[cyan ravine]

Is it jjk

[leaden mauve]

no

wait

[cyan ravine]

Oh?

[leaden mauve]

its something else

[cyan ravine]

[leaden mauve]

@cyan ravine https://proskatersplace.com/shop/inline-skating/inline-skates/flying-eagle-f5s-eclipse/
inline skating brings peace and joy.

DO IT

JOIN ME

[cyan ravine]

Ooo the ps5 skating

You know what, I might

We have a bike track nearby

[leaden mauve]

GOOD

i just realized this is the build chat channel

oh well

[manic cloak]

I could build

A possible 3700x 3070ti build for 700$

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VFVK34

[cyan ravine]

That would be lowkey amazing

[manic cloak]

Parts rn

[leaden mauve]

why zen 2?

[cyan ravine]

Used

[manic cloak]

^

[cyan ravine]

Bit mid but tbh meh

[manic cloak]

Plus what fbm has to offer

[cyan ravine]

We did talk about 5600

[manic cloak]

Mhm but nothing good used

Possible 5600x3d 175$ used

[cyan ravine]

Damn

That's kinda nice too ngl

[manic cloak]

Though idk if my cousin could buy it

[mossy venture]

Yeah I'd spend the extra for it, difference in some games would be pretty big

[manic cloak]

He said he’s “broke”

Yet

flexed 10k in the bank last night to me 💀

Btw

Possible free wraith cooler

Just gotta find a cpu

[mossy venture]

I mean, what's the 3700x costing again?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/185778960211?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=opUC0xz5R8W&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

$79 3600 free shipping

@manic cloak

Also a 5600x for $130

[manic cloak]

There’s a 3600x in my area for 80$

[mossy venture]

Basically the same cpu as the 3600

Even less of a diff than between the 5600 and 5600x

[manic cloak]

Ah man

The guy put the 3070ti pending w/o messaging me

[mossy venture]

F

There's 3060 ti open box for $255 from zotacs store on ebay

But around 20% downgrade in perf

Could try r/hardwareswap, it's back up

[violet nexus]

So I just upgraded my my graphics card bc I was getting lag on my games and it’s acting up still I’m not sure what’s wrong now. I wanted to build my pc but I’m not that great at the tech stuff. It froze on a game I had and didn’t I freeze. Not even Alt Tab was working. What can I do to fix this?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 6-core processor
Memory is 16g
Gpu: AMD Radeon RX 6600 Core 8GB
SSD: INLAND 2TB platinum
Ram: Triforce 16gb Vulcan
Psu: EVGA 700 b

[mossy venture]

Did you ddu?

[manic cloak]

Eh

7600 better isn’t it?

[potent portal]

Did you enable XMP in bios

[mossy venture]

Than 3060 ti?

[manic cloak]

Idk benches

But ya

[mossy venture]

No

7600 is a tiny bit worse than 6700 iirc

Basically matches it

3060 ti>6700

[lone flame]

is 7600 better than 6600

[cyan ravine]

yes

if it wasn't there'd be riots

[potent portal]

4060 be like

[lone flame]

cause i wanted to upgrade my old prebuilt for my sister

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KKZGJM

[potent portal]

RE4 at 1440p

[cyan ravine]

good lord

thanks bit bus

[lone flame]

would that be a decent upgrade

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[cyan ravine]

if compatible bios and sufficient psu yes

[lone flame]

i think i asked about it months ago

but i forgot

i dusted/cleaned it up very good for her, reseat gpu and stuff and shes been using it a bit for some stuff

i think i took a picture of the psu hold on

GMA4000BST is the name of it, from cyberpower

got it end of 2019 i think

that

[cyan ravine]

probably fine then

[potent portal]

Good enough

[obsidian wigeon]

that's c tier

[lone flame]

i obv dusted it

[obsidian wigeon]

good enough

[cyan ravine]

hopefully the bios supports 5600

[lone flame]

i never touched drivers or bios when i used it

[cyan ravine]

you'll need to update it

[lone flame]

ofc

[cyan ravine]

but you need to look

to see if the system supports 5600

[potent portal]

Check before you buy for sure

[cyan ravine]

not all am4 boards do

the only series that has universal support is 3000

1000,2000,5000, all over the place

[potent portal]

It was mostly the APUs that got dropped from newer agesa versions, but yeah also 1000 series

X470 was also an excellent platform to get. My board supported every single AM4 CPU. Just not all at the same time, I needed beta bios for 5000.

[lone flame]

this was it, idk if it says what mobo it is https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-3-2300x-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-570-1tb-hdd-240gb-ssd-black/6362425.p?skuId=6362425

[cyan ravine]

x470 still supports all cpus

b450 as well

kinda goated series

[potent portal]

The only thing X570/B550 really had on it was PCIe 4.0

Which to this day is mostly useless

[obsidian wigeon]

and up to date bios

[lone flame]

so this would be fine https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KKZGJM ?

[cyan ravine]

heh

me over here having bought two x570's

tbf my first one was kinda bleh

[potent portal]

The latest bios for my old X470 board is from 3 months ago, and that's a dead platform

[cyan ravine]

it doesn't say on the website what mobo it uses

you need to open the pc and identify the motherboard

[lone flame]

i cant do that rn i can do it tmr

i remember i did it once

forever ago

[cyan ravine]

there's a very real chance you could install the cpu and it won't ever work

am4 does not mean all ryzen works

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardwarefield.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F06%2FAMD-Ryzen-4000-Zen-3-Vermeer-Desktop-CPU-AM4-Compatibility-Chart.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=7c202ddb3aaa144ce0908a2dd16844f42d533e16348916f07de32168feea933d&ipo=images

^and this isn't even truly representative

you have to check specific *mobo websites for compatibility

[cold orbit]

What is currently the best but cheapest cpu on the market in terms of gaming

[cyan ravine]

Hm

Probably ryzen 7600 or 5600x3d

Maybe 12600k?

Depends how you look at it

[cold orbit]

Nothing a little bit more cheap

?

[mossy venture]

Are you just buying a cpu/mobo/ram?

Or building a whole new pc

[cyan ravine]

I mean

5600

Or deeper 5500/12100f

Would not consider lower

[mossy venture]

3600 is $80 new on ebay from aaawave

[cyan ravine]

3600 is good

Would argue better than 12100f

[mossy venture]

Depends on scenario

12100f def a lot better single core, but if you have a few tasks open while gaming the 3600 would likely pull ahead

Also plenty of options used, basically anything 10400f/3600/11400f/12100f/5500/13100f or higher for each recent gen

Some older options too like 8700/k

[viral horizon]

its shiny finally

[cyan ravine]

Whoa !

?

[cold orbit]

Thx a lot y’all really helped me out.

[round cloud]

How’s this https://www.newegg.com/white-corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139191

[teal dome]

Go for the bitfenix case with the same psu

I think it would be lower

[teal dome]

It looks like a good deal tho

[sage mountain]

@cyan ravine @mossy venture Update: got the new psu and for 2 days going on 3 my game hasn’t crashed mid game at all!!

[mossy venture]

Nice!

[teal dome]

What psu did you get?

[teal dome]

Y’all were right I guess it was a psu problem lol

[cyan ravine]

Sweet

[round cloud]

Think I’ll pull the trigger on the 4000d. I was looking at smaller cases, but the Corsair seems inoffensive enough. And should allow me to fit whatever components.

[obsidian wigeon]

id get pop mini air

[cyan ravine]

He needs atx for micro center

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[cyan ravine]

@round cloud a couple alternatives I'll just list off for you to look at

[obsidian wigeon]

then normal pop air

[cyan ravine]

Just rq

Fractal pop air/xl
Bitfenix nova mesh
G300a

Montech x3 mesh

Montech air 903 base

Fractal focus 2 (bit meh rn)

Fractal meshify 2 compact

Deepcool CK560

G360A

Probably all I'd recommend before 4000D tbh

H5 Flow is also 85 but I'm neither yay or nay

[round cloud]

I want it to look non gamery

[cyan ravine]

If you like the look it's not a bad price tho

Ye

I remember you wanted like

Blackout

[round cloud]

H5 was one I was looking at

[cyan ravine]

Compared to what a 4000D normally goes for? It's kindaaaa better

Lol

Pop air is def the best in that bracket

[mossy venture]

This is one felix mentioned, this is my goto for office type aesthetic https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gWFbt6/fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-07

[cyan ravine]

You can get non rgb version

Yeah fractal makes a lot of non rgb variants

You can also get that with a glass panel and no rgb fans lol

Or one of the cheaper cases like the nova mesh and swap in thermalright c12c's

It might get you an aesthetic you like more for the same or less

[mossy venture]

G300a with c12c would look similar to 4000d

[cyan ravine]

It would yeah

And you could get the base version with no rgb for $50

It's a bit narrower tho isn't it?

[round cloud]

So many options

[cyan ravine]

Yeah man, thought I'd share what I'd do before 4000D

Give you a lot of food for thought

[round cloud]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/665996/fractal-design-pop-air-rgb-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-black

Perhaps

[mossy venture]

$110 for that's a bit much

[round cloud]

The Corsair with psu seems like a good value. But I know Corsair may not be highest quality

[mossy venture]

Corsair cases are good, just depends on pricing

And what's the price with what psu?

That $185 with rm850e?

[cyan ravine]

Corsair cases and psus are both good

Really the only things they do decent jobs of

[mossy venture]

Sorry yeah thats a better statement ^

[mossy venture]

But corsair ram best for ocing ofc

[round cloud]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Seasonic focus gx gold is A tier right?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

I love my gx

Dead quiet all the time

[mossy venture]

Nvm third party seller with 14 reviews

Was $98 on pcp and didn't see seller

[cyan ravine]

4000d with rm850e for 185?

Cos that's honestly not bad

You'd be saving some $25

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XQVNPF

Or $15 more for xpg core reactor 850

Or $10 less for udgm 850

[round cloud]

Corsair’s side panel is easily replaceable which is good since im accident prone and will be moving the pc a fair amount

[cyan ravine]

Moving a lot?

Hm, that makes sense ig

Any reason no for a laptop?

[round cloud]

Yea, new WFH job, semi nomad life for fun. Still want to game

[round cloud]

I’ve considered it since I play games like WoW, but I also want giga performance for the latest games

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

[round cloud]

Also, the act itself of building a PC seems fun

[cyan ravine]

Nowadays tho laptops are pretty good at running full tilt without overheating themselves as much

Just more food for thought ig lol

[round cloud]

Lol I was considering a MacBook for a laptop since I also have a music making hobby

I need like 5 computers lolol

[cyan ravine]

They have that LOQ at best buy rn for 800

Basically a 5800x/3060 desktop in a laptop

Honestly not that bad

Actually I think the cpu is even better

[round cloud]

Something like that would be great for WoW lol

[cyan ravine]

Think it's more like 7700 R7

One sec I'll find it

[round cloud]

It would be a weird spot for me in terms of performance

[cyan ravine]

Ah rip it's back up to 1100

Yeah it's a 7700/3060 desktop in a 15.6" lol

Pretty solid tbh

[round cloud]

What’s the catch

[cyan ravine]

The catch was you had to upgrade the ram

That was pretty much it

[round cloud]

Are laptop equivalents much worse? I remember like 900/1000 nvidia series vs m being significant

[cyan ravine]

At the high end yes

In the mid range? Not really

Low end, sometimes faster than desktop lmao

[round cloud]

Weird

Maybe ill end up with both

An even cheaper gaming laptop maybe for WoW on road-trips, and beast desktop at the house

[mossy venture]

This one felix? https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-loq-15-6-gaming-laptop-fhd-amd-ryzen-7-7840hs-with-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4050-6gb-512gb-ssd-storm-grey/6534465.p?skuId=6534465

Ah sale ended nvm

[round cloud]

Lots of my travel will be car and I’m planning on driving pc around.

Sometimes I may fly tho and want a laptop

[mossy venture]

Oh yeah you said that, sorry

[round cloud]

I’ll focus on desktop pc for now lol

[cyan ravine]

All good

The laptops around or under 1000 mark lately have been surprisingly competent tho

Now I'm curious, I might look for another sale lol

[round cloud]

I mean even with a laptop I’d still be at a desktop 99 percent of the time

Still good to know the laptops are better now

[cyan ravine]

@round cloud
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-aorus-15-6-144hz-gaming-laptop-fhd-intel-i5-13500h-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4050-512gb-ssd/6534579.p?skuId=6534579

Kinda on the same level as the loq

Again needs upgraded ram

[cyan ravine]

Maybe still consider the D31 for a bit of size practicality tho?

Go back to the matx size

Cos the size difference between 4000d and d31 is pretty significant

For just a handful of dollars at that

[magic summit]

I got a problem.. assembled a big PC, but I can't install Windows 11 via USB boot drive. Not my first time installing an OS. When I boot via windows USB key, it loads windows 11 installer, but the mouse/keyboard lose functionality so I can't go through with installation

Any thoughts 💭 would be appreciated

[cyan ravine]

Try a different keyboard and mouse?

Some use drivers that activate with windows

Or alternatively the pc could be freezing at the install screen

[magic summit]

Ok I'll try tonight to use a simpler keyboard/mouse, maybe the fancy gaming mouse with lights and buttons is too complicated

It's loads the files for the OS installer, but at the Choose Language prompt (first prompt of installer) I get no input. Mouse+keyboard are fully functional on BIOS menu

[cyan ravine]

It's happened to me before

[mossy venture]

Nice find, I always just check r/laptopdeals when I'm looking

[cyan ravine]

Food for thought lol

[magic summit]

For sure

[round cloud]

🤔 perhaps

[cyan ravine]

If it's something that saves you back pain I could see a couple hundred extra even, be worth it tbh

[round cloud]

I just want it to be easy to work with and be able to support a large GPU should I happen to splurge on one

[cyan ravine]

D31 is a really good choice for that

Ap201 as well

If you configure the case properly the D31 fits any gpu

And it's a lot smaller

[teal dome]

No more bob

[round cloud]

I might even get a 6950 for the gpu. Seems very worth at $630

[cyan ravine]

It is

6950 would easily fit in a d31

The other good thing too is that it'll still be as heavy

But less bulky?

If that makes sense, since everything is more densely packed

It's better ergonomics for carrying

Or you could look into an a620i motherboard for $140 and go even smaller to itx

Some itx cases have handlebars for carrying

[teal dome]

@cyan ravine what do you think about a decent itx case, mobo and psu for budget

Am4 cuz I’m going to get 5600

Also I wanna try painting my gpu white any tips?

[cyan ravine]

There's no cheap am4 itx

[teal dome]

Hmm alright

[cyan ravine]

Am5 is like the only one with the a520i

[teal dome]

Go for the micro atx then? With the mobo we talked about earlier

The tuf one

[cyan ravine]

And I believe it's a board for non x cpus

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[teal dome]

Aight

[cyan ravine]

Really the only board worth buying

[teal dome]

It was pcie 3 tho

My ssd is pcie4

I mean it should be alright right?

[cyan ravine]

Ye it just runs at half speed

Which isn't even totally true

It runs at full speed for all but the first 20 seconds

Which on a gen 4 motherboard it runs full speed all the time

So basically in a vacuum it's no real difference you should worry about

[stoic island]

I mean you'll still write at approximately the same speed over a long time with the same drive

[cyan ravine]

Especially when copy is not normally pushing peak bandwidth anyway

Yeah pretty much

[teal dome]

Alright but it will work right?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

It'll just opt for gen 3 mode

[teal dome]

Ok as long it works

I bought the solidgm p something for 30

For 1tb

[stoic island]

The pslc cache size is the same either way, just that instead of writing at say 7000mbps until you run out of pSLC and speed goes down to native tlc, you write at say 3500mbps until you run out of pSLC and speed goes down to native tlc

[cyan ravine]

I just learned a thing

[stoic island]

Oh p41 plus? That's like halfway pcie 4.0

[teal dome]

Ye

[stoic island]

You don't lose much on pcie 3.0

[teal dome]

Ok

@cyan ravine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xPJZZJ

So far

Any changes?

[cyan ravine]

Change the ram to cheaper 2x16

65 is not worth it

53 max

[teal dome]

Any other rgb ram?

I want it to kinda look good

Neo forza?

[cyan ravine]

Lemme look

Not really worth buying
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GdNv6h/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdb

But that's as close as you'd get to reasonable value

Otherwise just get a used ddr4 kit

[teal dome]

Don’t go for rgb?

I could not go for rgb if you don’t suggest

[cyan ravine]

I'd say avoid it yea and go sp gaming 32gb

Or go used and get rgb

And save a little more on top

[teal dome]

used kits in my area are super expensive

People be selling corsair 32gb rgb for 100

[cyan ravine]

Yeah definitely not corsair

Lol

Try like

Oloy or g.skill

[manic cloak]

@cyan ravine 200$ xfx 6700xt for this build 🤔

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Oml

[teal dome]

Is there 3600mhz for silicon power?

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KM8cTY

[teal dome]

That was mine no?

[round cloud]

Is there any reason to get the 7800xt

[manic cloak]

No diff one

[teal dome]

Oh

[cyan ravine]

Ye would be decent

If you go 3700x that would be about as high of a gpu I would consider

[teal dome]

32gb?

[cyan ravine]

Don't need

You could set 3600 manually if you really needed to

The performance difference isn't worth more than a couple dollars

[teal dome]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Jqvfy

[teal dome]

You can overclock it?

Even though it’s marketed as 3200?

[cyan ravine]

Mhm

[teal dome]

Ok

[manic cloak]

What about a 5600? Or if I manage to get like a 56/800x3d

[cyan ravine]

5600 still good

They got that tiktok offer for 110 for 5600

On newegg tiktok

[strong raft]

Very reasonable tbh. $20 under my cpu. Overall pretty nuts cpu value for $100-150 these days.

[lone flame]

200$?!?!??

[little osprey]

Price Check:
CPU - 13900KF
GPU - 6800XT
MTBB760i Strix,
RAM - 32GB Z5,
Cooler - Noctua NH-D15 chromax black
PSU - 850watt CM 80+ Gold
SSD - 1tb 980 samung pro
Case - NR200P

Whats the price of this

[mossy venture]

Buying or selling

[manic cloak]

Yes sir

[mossy venture]

I'd say max I'd go is around $1400 if buying

That's pushing it a bit

[lone flame]

Link

[mossy venture]

It's used

[lone flame]

Oh

I thought he meant

New

I was boutta cop that

[little osprey]

just asking how much used

and isnt the graphics card

too slow?

for the CPU?

buying

[mossy venture]

Yeah its definitely unbalanced

6800xt and 5600 is a good pairing

Also if you don't care about ITX, I wouldn't bother with that build

[little osprey]

@mossy venture Do you mind dming me?

please

[mossy venture]

Sure

[manic cloak]

@mossy venture 250$ 3070 or 200$ 6700xt?

Xfx 6700xt and asus tuf 3070

[mossy venture]

Hm

6700xt is only like 5% worse

I'd say 6700xt

[manic cloak]

Okok

[manic cloak]

There’s always a 300$ used 6800 that’s been mined on too

Red devil ver

[mossy venture]

6800 bit worse than 3080 10gb

Better than 3070 ti

[manic cloak]

Ik that

No clue if it’s worth still

[mossy venture]

I think the 6700xt is better price/perf, but the 6800 is still decently priced

So if the person the pcs for wants the better perf, it's not a bad buy

[manic cloak]

I could ask the guy if it’s still willing to do 250)

[mossy venture]

that'd be nice

[round cloud]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006269/amd-ryzen-7-7700x,-msi-b650-p-pro-wifi,-gskill-flare-x5-series-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle $400 CPU/mobo/ram

https://www.newegg.com/white-corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139191 $185 case/psu

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-MERC319-6950XT-Graphics/dp/B0B6GKX8MD/ref=asc_df_B0B6GKX8MD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=598359365939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=146489652721521256&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1026248&hvtargid=pla-1721290222499&psc=1 $629 6950xt

I'm letting this marinate. Still kicking around the idea of SFF/MFF but I am drawn to the Corsair case for aesthetics/popularity

[mossy venture]

I'd take a $500 7800xt over a $630 6950xt

[round cloud]

7800xt seems good to me! Seems like a lot of people haven’t tried it out yet based on my internet searching

Basically beefier than 4070, but missing out on Nvidia tech which could be nice (?)

[mossy venture]

I'd also take a 4070 at $550 over a $630 6950xt tbh

when they were 600 and 600-630 it was an easy choice for 6950xt

[lone flame]

i yearn for the day that the xfx 6950xt drops in price

[mossy venture]

$580 6900xt isn't bad, if that's still in stock

[round cloud]

I don’t know if it’s wise but would feel better with more recent tech. I might have heard the names are misleading though (?)

For example if I went nvidia I think I’d insist on 4xxx

[mossy venture]

why tho?

performance is performance

[round cloud]

im a sucker for marketing

I'm wanting to finish this within a week

[mossy venture]

there really isn't many features low end 40 series has that amd 6000/7000 doesn't

there's better rtx, but at that tier it just tanks fps a ton

[round cloud]

I mean, I was thinking the NVIDIA frame gen stuff is cool, but with a badass enough card, the extra frames wont be needed

[mossy venture]

frame gen is ok, but it has it's flaws

the frames generated tend to not look as good

only reason I'd go nvidia over amd is if you need cuda for workloads tbh

but it's your money and your decision

[round cloud]

I don't even know what that means

[mossy venture]

Some workstations tasks do a lot better with nvidia (cuda)

Like blender

[round cloud]

Nah no need. Just max fps

[mossy venture]

Purely fps, amd has nvidia beat price for frames

[round cloud]

Ok, so 7700x, 32gb ddr5, and probably a 7800xt if I were to make it happen rn

[mossy venture]

Do you have a microcenter nearby?

[round cloud]

I’m moving in a few days and will be near a MicroCenter

[mossy venture]

Ah alr

[round cloud]

So like this weekend

[mossy venture]

Getting the 7700x bundle from there?

[round cloud]

That’s what I’m leaning towards, yea. It seems like a good deal. Buying individually, I’d probably spring for the 7800x3d due to the small price difference. But I don’t see any bundles with the 7800x3d

[mossy venture]

Yeah not really any bundles with it

With the gpus you're looking at it wouldn't make a major difference anyways

[round cloud]

Plus this way I have an excuse to upgrade again in 2 years

[weary galleon]

Or Tensor for AI. Unless amd has added their own version of that to the 7000 series

[cyan ravine]

Eh I wouldn't, 3080 10gb vs 3090 Ti in a raster drag

[spare socket]

i play tarkov, rust, gta, rust on high settings. i have the ssd, psu, ram, gpu, case but im missing the mobo, cpu and cooler. what should i get https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pbz4dH

[mossy venture]

Could sell/return the ram and dohttps://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Dz8NKp
Or https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7BPMyK

Or https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/g8kwXy

Or could sell the ddr4 and go ddr5 on 13600kf, but atp I'd just go for the 7600

@spare socket

[south cliff]

I have a quick question why does my cpu only go up to 4.25 ghz when playing cyberpunk like it just stays ther

there

[pseudo pollen]

Games aren't very cpu intensive, or it could be thermal throttling

[south cliff]

but like it stays exactly on 4.25 and wont go any higher

[pseudo pollen]

It doesn't need to

[south cliff]

well it should

i need more frames

[pseudo pollen]

Check the GPU usage

[mossy venture]

It's either thermal throttling, being bottlenecked by something, misreporting usage, or just doesn't need to boost higher

[south cliff]

it doesent get above 52 degrees Celsius

[mossy venture]

Ram and gpu?

[pseudo pollen]

Check the GPU usage while gaming

[mossy venture]

Oh, 6800 lol

[south cliff]

ok let me load it back up real fast

[mossy venture]

1080p or 1440?

[south cliff]

1440

[pseudo pollen]

It's probably pegged at 100% usage constantly

The gpu

[south cliff]

dont make fun of my baby

[mossy venture]

Yeah that sounds pretty normal

[mossy venture]

No I was making fun of myself for not seeing your name

6800 is dope

[south cliff]

is there any reason to upgrade to new gen?

[pseudo pollen]

My 13500 is bottlenecked by the 3070 that I have

[lyric thistle]

No

[mossy venture]

Eh, personally I'd wait

Unless you have xtx money, potentially worth it but then you'd be cpu bottlenecked

[south cliff]

cpu near 100

gpu at like 90-100

more like 87-94

prolly just a cpu intensive game

[cyan ravine]

Depends on the load demand, core spread

4.25 could mean anything

[cyan ravine]

With your specs no

If you wanted to dial things up a notch you could do a little forced OC to peg the clock higher

Tho it's probably only boosting like that for that specific game or app

So elsewhere it could be a detriment to do so rather than a benefit

[south cliff]

i just thought it was a little wierd

[cyan ravine]

Meh, games be like that

They'll ask for a certain number of cores or threads depending on the way the games are made

Or apps as well

[south cliff]

i get about 60 - 80 fps on my settings i just wanted to get closer to 80-100

also

sometimes my game looks a little blurry could i be becasue of fsr

[cyan ravine]

Can be

Render resolution has the same effect

Anti aliasing

Etc

You could probably get a 10% bump or so from a little OC

[south cliff]

it just doesent look as good as i thought it would be

[cyan ravine]

What game?

[south cliff]

cyberpunk

[cyan ravine]

New patch?

[south cliff]

im pretty sure

could be my settings

[cyan ravine]

Supposedly really cpu heavy now

[south cliff]

https://www.charlieintel.com/cyberpunk-2077/best-pc-settings-for-cyberpunk-2077-high-fps-graphics-more-275393/

i just used the setting from this website

[cyan ravine]

Yeah those sorts of guides I'd be looking at

Digitalfoundry might have something very detailed

[south cliff]

wdym

[potent portal]

hardware unboxed published their optimization guide today

[south cliff]

could you link it

[potent portal]

https://youtu.be/B03_Aa5NwIY?si=g8GLEadvqNXM0MrD

They go over each setting and show how it affects graphical quality and fps

If you have enough vram you can set texture res to max with almost 0 impact for example

[south cliff]

should i use fsr

or intel XeSS

[potent portal]

XeSS is for Intel Arc

Yeah it works on others but it's still newer tech

[south cliff]

or whatever intes Xe

should i do balanced

[potent portal]

Depends on your preferences

[cyan ravine]

God imagine if they were called intes

Idk if I could live with abbreviated intestines

[south cliff]

i want it to look good

and a decent amount of fps

[potent portal]

Try settings and see what you like visually vs fps

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it's gonna be a lot of trial and error

[potent portal]

I usually do quality personally but I have a high end card

[south cliff]

should i run benchmark

[cyan ravine]

Hey rx6800 is pretty high end

[potent portal]

true

[cyan ravine]

In my head at least

[south cliff]

not really

[cyan ravine]

[south cliff]

but for me

it is

since my budget

[potent portal]

High enough to run high quality textures

[cyan ravine]

I remember when that thing dropped and everyone was looking at it like the downbin 6800xt it truly was

No slouch

Navi 21 go brrr

[south cliff]

what does image sharpening do

[cyan ravine]

Sharpens the-

[lyric thistle]

Sharpens the image

[south cliff]

but i wanted a 6800xt

[lyric thistle]

[cyan ravine]

Thanks

Lmao

[south cliff]

out of budget

at the time

[cyan ravine]

6800 still great

[south cliff]

but i swear it makes the image blurry

for some reason

[cyan ravine]

I mean, possible?

[potent portal]

Trial and error

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen-you-know-its-crazy-we-finish-each-others-sandwiches-crazy-what-gif-15694998

[cyan ravine]

If it conflicts

[south cliff]

it maybe just be me tho

[little osprey]

one of my relatives say that building your own pc is old fashioned and exclusive to gamers and tech enthusiasts is it true?

[south cliff]

no

building your pc is just overall better

[lyric thistle]

My brother hates computers and he voluntarily built my PC with me

[south cliff]

you get experience you save money

[primal linden]

exp

[south cliff]

and you could possibly have alot better performance

[lyric thistle]

Building computers is fun and if you help out people who don't know how to it's accessible

[south cliff]

and it could look better than a prebuilt

[primal linden]

and money

[south cliff]

depending on your budget

[cyan ravine]

Do you like money?

[little osprey]

build your own frameworks laptop !== a strict "build your own PC" I guess because the mobo is set in stone

[dusky hearth]

old fashioned? no
exclusive to gamers and tech enthusiasts? semi true

[potent portal]

You can swap to a newer model motherboard in the framework

[cyan ravine]

Framework brings the pc building world to laptops

[dusky hearth]

but even office pc levels of desktops can be done cheaper sometimes

[potent portal]

And then you can use the old model in an enclosure as a server or somthing

[primal linden]

i just googled frameworks

[dusky hearth]

well, it's not set in stone
there are several options, plus future options

[primal linden]

itt seems cool

[dusky hearth]

framework is honestly really only like, a bit less customizable than a full desktop

[cyan ravine]

Pretty much

It's also expensive for what it is

Being price conscious with decent laptops is still better atm

[dusky hearth]

alot more custom engineering in framework than desktop components though
especially when backwards compatibility (in form factor at least) is a very important factor

[cyan ravine]

I realise that but that doesn't answer for being inequitable

💀

[dusky hearth]

yeah that's true

[cyan ravine]

It's cool but not really brilliant yet

[dusky hearth]

might be cheaper in the long run? not sure tbh

[cyan ravine]

Yes

We wait until they get cheap

Then the enthusiasts will capitalise

[dusky hearth]

lmfao

[obsidian wigeon]

if i had money to throw

i'd get framework 16

[desert gulch]

Nah get a g14

G14 all the way

[potent portal]

I'd go framework too if I had a need for a laptop and the spare money for one

I like the repairability

Those USB ports? On a typical laptop a USB port breaks and you just don't have a USB port any more until you replace the whole laptop

[pseudo pollen]

technically you could resolder a new one on

but that's impractical for almost everyone

[dusky hearth]

i would have gotten a framework 16 ngl if it had come out in time

[lyric thistle]

That's why laptop repair shops exist

[dusky hearth]

i got a zeph g15 instead

[desert gulch]

G15? How you liking it?

[dusky hearth]

i didn't like the io of the g14

uhhh

it's decent lmfao

i have sweaty hands so the heat of the chassis doesn't help

[desert gulch]

Lol the top middle of keyboard gets really hot on yours?

[dusky hearth]

oh yeah absolutely

only wasd and the other side stays cool because of the air being sucked through the keys there

[desert gulch]

Right

[dusky hearth]

but even where the palm is can get slightly warm

[potent portal]

Sure but I'd rather just spend $20 on a new USB port than spend hours soldering a port

[desert gulch]

I have a g14, I know the feeling

[dusky hearth]

g15 isn't much different from the g14 afaik

[lyric thistle]

Gaming laptops are scary

[dusky hearth]

main difference is just slightly bigger, and 1 more m.2 slot

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[pseudo pollen]

What if the modular system for replacing the ports breaks?

[dusky hearth]

also nvidia instead of radeon dgpu

[desert gulch]

I'm still getting crazy good battery life for such a small laptop

[lyric thistle]

New motherboard, keep the modular ports

I guess

[desert gulch]

You can get Nvidia in g14

[dusky hearth]

ah

[lyric thistle]

Or also just send them in for repair

[desert gulch]

Mines a 7940hs and 4060

But yeah you can get Radeon dgpu in g14 if you want

[dusky hearth]

but radeon graphics is more power efficent iirc

i have the 2022 model so i have a 3070ti

[pseudo pollen]

expensive, defeats the purpose for having a repairable laptop in the first place

[desert gulch]

Nice

[desert gulch]

Probs, but I use mine for engineering college stuff so I wanted nvidia

I get like 10 hours of just browsing/doing basic stuff on battery life on igp

[potent portal]

I have yet to hear of that happening if it's used properly. It's designed so the plastic casing on the adapter box takes most of the force and none is applied to the board.