building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

$420 + tax

[tawny violet]

Yeah because you randomly get 50 bucks off

[cyan ravine]

Ofc but you seem to think all of us knew you had a discount from the beginning

[little osprey]

Seems like you got a bad idea of Felix

[tawny violet]

Bro you really gotta do this...

[little osprey]

Second time asking why your arguing, I have a price why are you arguing?

[teal dome]

Felix is smart as hell bro

[little osprey]

I have something you guys don’t

[teal dome]

He Carries this discord

[tawny violet]

Oh hey the "I'm better than everyone" line

[little osprey]

Pretty sure I mentioned it multiple times

[cyan ravine]

By then you were already picking an argument man, just chill lmao

[tawny violet]

Okay I'm noping the hell out right now this just turned more toxic than the Chernobyl fallout

[little osprey]

Especially to you

[earnest olive]

anyways yall this is build chat not argue chat so can we chill

[little osprey]

Make an argue chat

Rq

[earnest olive]

im really not in the right state for this

[little osprey]

Guess we’re done

Am going to sleep now

[storm arrow]

What in the world

[silent token]

hey

uh

can this pc run starfield?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fRGnTY#compatibility_notes

(please pin me when you’re willing to answer)

[cyan ravine]

@silent token it can at like, 1080p medium-ish

Is this a new build?

I recognise making lists just like that but months and months ago

[silent token]

i think someone made a list for me a long while ago

i just got a job so now i’m trying to save up for my first pc

and i wanna make sure it can last a long while before i buy new parts

[cyan ravine]

interesting

not sure if we mentioned it at the time but prices fluctuate over weeks and months

idk what your intended budget was but you can do the same kind of build for a fair bit cheaper now

that looks to be about a $720 build

you could def get a lot better for that much

@silent token https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BYHtpB

same performance but much cheaper (this one has the mobo price included)

or for $720-ish you could do something more competent, brb

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CPn4n6

this would do 1080p high, maybe ultra on starfield

max out basically anything else you'd play on 1080p

[analog hearth]

Why is my new 6800 XT Starfield’s recommended :(

[mossy lion]

Has anyone ever used this product to control your fans and rbg lights upHere 7-Port 4PIN SATA PWM 5V 3PIN ADDRESSABLE RGB Fan Hub/Splitter for 4-Pin & 3-Pin Case Fans in Black-P7PRGB?

[manic cloak]

😈

[obsidian wigeon]

bruh

scummy lmao

also tbh 450 for that ain't even steep, assuming it's 11400h and 1650

better if it's 12450h

[cyan ravine]

Looks like an 11th gen i5 and a turing mobile 16 series

[obsidian wigeon]

there's two versions of the victus with 1650

11th gen and 12th

[mossy venture]

Tbh not that great

[cyan ravine]

Pretty mid

[obsidian wigeon]

it's mid as far as used stuff goes

[manic cloak]

I’m gonna haggle down to 200)

[mossy venture]

I got a 3050 ti laptop new directly from Dell for $650, in 2021

[manic cloak]

But idk what version it is

[obsidian wigeon]

450 gets you like 1660ti laptops

[manic cloak]

For all Ik

It could be a 1660

Ye

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

victus has no 1660ti versions

[manic cloak]

He said he got it on sale for 650

[obsidian wigeon]

it's 1650, then 3050 and above

[manic cloak]

It has to be a 3050

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

3050 ain't gtx

[manic cloak]

Ah shoot

[mossy venture]

^

I'd imagine its a 1650 if it was new for that price tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

i still kinda feel hurt by asus dropping price of 4060 tuf a15

to how much i got my 4050 one for

[manic cloak]

There’s one thing though

He said there’s 16gb of ram

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, it could have been some other version

[manic cloak]

Most of the models with 1650s are at 8gb only

[obsidian wigeon]

but there's no way it's nothing but 1650

[manic cloak]

Nvm found it

[obsidian wigeon]

hp never made victus with 1660ti

[manic cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/HP-i5-12450H-GeForce-1650-512GB-15-fa0031dx/dp/B0BVTB19CN/ref=asc_df_B0B67521S5/?

1650

[obsidian wigeon]

besides it's like, discontinued by the time the victus arrived

[manic cloak]

You think if i haggle to 200$ it’s still worth?

[obsidian wigeon]

200.. that would be insulting, so no

300 is probably doable i guess?

[manic cloak]

Then again

[obsidian wigeon]

look it's just a 1650 but the whole laptop is still new

and 1050ti laptops are 250+

those are with old cpus too

like 9300h

[manic cloak]

Idk how bad the 1650 is but still

[obsidian wigeon]

or heck, 7700hq

[manic cloak]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-victus-15-6-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-7535hs-8gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2050-512gb-ssd-mica-silver/6541840.p?

There’s even this for 500$

2050 but still

[mossy venture]

2050 is an embarrassment

[obsidian wigeon]

2050 is the old 3050 laptop

[manic cloak]

Should be better than a 1650?

[obsidian wigeon]

new 3050 got updated with 3050ti's core and 4050's vram

yeah much better

[mossy venture]

According to passmark

[manic cloak]

By like 100 points

[obsidian wigeon]

the benchmark scores are a lie tho

[manic cloak]

💀

[little osprey]

Barely

If not the same

[obsidian wigeon]

it actually matches 3050 laptop, the og version

[mossy venture]

Ah ok

[manic cloak]

So quick question

[obsidian wigeon]

i watched bench vids

[gentle pollen]

SL-Inf fans finally come in a 140mm variant!

[manic cloak]

Is this worth haggling down to 200 if it’s possible

[obsidian wigeon]

i wouldn't even bother if you want it that low

that's just mega lowball

[manic cloak]

IF it’s possible

[mossy venture]

I got my mx550 laptop for $450 or so after tax, essentially new (refurb but it was almost never used)

[obsidian wigeon]

mx550 is 1650, essentially

just cut vram

[mossy venture]

Wait it is?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[mossy venture]

I thought it was much worse

That's great

[obsidian wigeon]

it shares the 1650's core

but 64 bit vram

that's all it is

and low tdp ofc

[manic cloak]

😭

Foxy really disappointing us all today

Wait

I thought he said it was equal to 1650, misread my fault 💀

[mighty lantern]

Repasted the XTX. Dropped the hotspot temps from stock, much better

TFX paste was definitely tougher to work with but I hear it’s good for resisting pump out

[cyan ravine]

Which one's tfx again

[mighty lantern]

Thermalright

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcRAqp7QtWiXPcVbu8LJTds48ICJxNzWVN-P8Gzhzmfw1agaEkrSqjEDCgQl-TL5uTYdS9N5PPLwm5EYFlawXw2bJt2m5QHI

Probably could have heated it up a small bit to help with spreading but it didn’t take too long regardless

[cyan ravine]

Just do like, a time spy test or something

It can help with just after a repaste sometimes

[mighty lantern]

Yeah, did a couple tests including timespy extreme and port Royal to break it in a bit

[cyan ravine]

I normally don't fuss over that tho lol

[mighty lantern]

I’m just happy I closed the temperature delta in more lol.

Went from 35-40c delta to 20

[cyan ravine]

How big was your delta then vs now?

Ooo ok

Is this an asrock board?

[mighty lantern]

Powercolor

[cyan ravine]

Hmmm

Yeah I've seen that before on red devils

[mighty lantern]

It just had a couple bare spots on the die

[cyan ravine]

Or coil whine

[mighty lantern]

Spreading the paste evenly helped. Coil whine is almost non existent, it’s there but I can barely hear it

Honestly the old EVGA Sfx power supply I had had WAY more whine than the gpu

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I always spread paste

It's extra used but like

What $5 tube?

I'm not gonna worry about 20c extra paste and a few minutes extra time spreading if it means I get proper coverage

Goes double for a die too

You can't cheat on a gpu die lolol

[mighty lantern]

Yeah id rather make sure it’s fully covered

Happy with the results. Allows me to keep fan speed down a bit

Aside from that it’s been a great card, shreds through everything

[cyan ravine]

I always hear that from XTX owners

It's so weird lol

[mighty lantern]

Lol

I just couldn’t pass it up open box at $750

Microcenter came through

[cyan ravine]

That's an amazing deal omg

[mighty lantern]

It worked just fine. No cosmetic damage or anything

One of the least regrettable impulse buys I’ve made tbh

[fossil cedar]

That's a crazy good deal

[little osprey]

BRO WHAT

THEY'RE ACTUALLY SUSPENDING KIDS FOR USING ChatGPT

THE HELL

[mossy venture]

i mean

[little osprey]

Wait wrong channel

I'm stupid

[cyan ravine]

Pfffft

[little osprey]

Still BS

YK it's high school, I'm not risking that much

[autumn gulch]

Damn in high school , and they still check for that

[vague oracle]

Lol it gets even harsher in college

[earnest olive]

this has been around for much longer than chatgpt has

but also, why is this in build chat

[little osprey]

I didn’t look at the chat when I was posting it

But uhhh, it’s AI

It’s not anyone’s writing

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/car-driving-blind-driver-cars-drive-gif-23660501

[plucky timber]

ahahah wtf

here they just fail you

[gentle pollen]

Wow micro center has some really good bundle deals.

Was looking at their site.

[lone flame]

ayo

[potent portal]

Like that one professor that ran everyone's essays through GPT and just asked "did you write this" and ofc the AI hallucinated and said yes so he flunked the whole class.
When they tested how well that worked, the AI claimed to write the Declaration of Independence.

[lone flame]

actually its only $50 thats not that crazy

[obsidian wigeon]

meh

that's not really a deal

[little osprey]

@obsidian wigeon @potent portal buying the parts today, anything I need to consider? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X2B3t7

[storm arrow]

Already have a cpu cooler?

[little osprey]

@storm arrow The case has 3-4

the video card has 3

[storm arrow]

Ahh okay

[obsidian wigeon]

i have no comment tbf

[little osprey]

what do you think

of the setup?

decent?

[obsidian wigeon]

since i did direct you to something else, but that's fine

[little osprey]

Was it the 6800 xt?

[obsidian wigeon]

nah, it was like with 6700. it was a list with r5 7600 as cpu

[little osprey]

I cant find it with white

am trying to find one

[storm arrow]

So which cpu doesn't require coolers?

[obsidian wigeon]

all cpus require cooling

a lot of them come with coolers included inside the box

and they're just fine, but not good

loud under load

[storm arrow]

Ahhh okay that's what I figured

[cyan ravine]

Anything that draws generally like, 10W+ will have some form of a heatsink (/cooler)

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

So for standard spec nowadays that's pretty much every conventional cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

cpus with K, KF, and X lack cooler though

[little osprey]

@obsidian wigeon Am guessing the CPU does not come with the coolor liquid with it right?

whatever its called

[obsidian wigeon]

12400f has stock cooler

[little osprey]

no

the liquid

thingy

[obsidian wigeon]

and thermal paste is pre-applied

[little osprey]

that you put

ohhh

ok

thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

so all you have to do is install the cooler

[little osprey]

❤️

how

often should it be replaced

[cyan ravine]

When temps get bad

[obsidian wigeon]

^

but do clean the pc regularly

because dust will hurt your temps before the paste goes bad anyway

[little osprey]

How would

dusts work

on a laptop

A lot more difficult?

[cyan ravine]

Take it apart, clean it with a paintbrush

[lone flame]

7700 XT is wild

[cyan ravine]

By hand

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

wild as in?

[little osprey]

kk thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

and careful to not spin the fans too fast

[lone flame]

unless it drops to like 399 or below it isnt worth its price rn

[obsidian wigeon]

it will

knowing radeon gpus

[little osprey]

I dont know a video card that is white

on newegg

all I see is 3060s

[lone flame]

they should of given it 16 gb

[little osprey]

there is a 16gb

but

its back order

[obsidian wigeon]

12 is fine

[cyan ravine]

It's fine on 12gb

Most games you'd be playing on it won't demand more than like 9

And sensibly optimised ones should ask for less than 8 even on 1440p

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=white+video+card

Do you think you can find me a video card that is white and preferablly similar in performance but cheaper?

you gave me a 6700

It was good

I just prefer a white version if possible

[fresh jewel]

Haven't really kept up with DDR5 but I'm looking to build a new PC with a 7600x what are decent DDR5 speeds these days?

[cyan ravine]

Have you bought the 7600x yet?

Cos if not, get the 7600 instead. 10% cheaper for basically the same performance and comes with a cooler

DDR5 you have a lot of variety options but you want to get a get with hynix chips imo for longevity

I tend to recommend 5600 CL32/CL30 kits cos those are guaranteed hynix

[fresh jewel]

I haven't bought anything yet. In the planning stage.

[cyan ravine]

Like teamgroup vulcan for ~$85 or ripjaws S5 for $95-ish

Oh ok. What's your budget my guy? I can make a list in a couple minutes

Save you needing to do all the double checking

[fresh jewel]

1200 but it's a portable rig using the Hyte revolt case

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok, so like travel with the handle(?)

I think that's the handlebar case

[storm arrow]

Omg looking at my first build ever 1400 jeez amd 4170 with gigabyte 990fx and Radeon HD 6950 2gb

[fresh jewel]

Yeh. I have the case already and love it.

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough, so you've bought anything else?

[fresh jewel]

Nah

[cyan ravine]

Alr

Monitor keyboard mouse?

[fresh jewel]

Yeh got that. 1200 is just pc

[cyan ravine]

Alr, gimme a few minutes I'll ping ya

[fresh jewel]

Aight cool.

Btw I have a 700 watt PSU already. Came with case.

[little osprey]

@fresh jewel Can I see your list?

[fresh jewel]

The Hyte revolt setup?

[little osprey]

What parts you plan on buying

if you dont mind

Am also in the stage in finalizin my stuff

[fresh jewel]

Haven't really put a list together yet.

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyDykJ

This is mine

[fresh jewel]

I have a Hyte revolt already with a 5600x and 3080 in it though.

[little osprey]

if you would like to see

[cyan ravine]

@fresh jewel you're selling the old parts?

Also are you reusing your old ssd?

[fresh jewel]

Nah, this a completely separate new build

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok

[fresh jewel]

Here is my current Hyte revolt build.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8jyVmKS/

But that 1060 has been replaced with a 3080FE

[cyan ravine]

@fresh jewel
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GXNmgB

OR, if the budget is 1200 including the case, change cpu to 7600

It's a little over in both but that would be about where I'd land it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rmvx6D

[fresh jewel]

6800 huh? I'd think I'd rather drop the CPU down a notch and get a different GPU.

Kinda prefer Nvidia but 30 series.

[cyan ravine]

What are you doing with the build?

[fresh jewel]

I was even thinking about going 5600x but the itx mobo too much for those.

[cyan ravine]

Like what apps, work, gaming etc

[fresh jewel]

Just gaming.

It's for gaming while traveling for work.

[cyan ravine]

I mean, you could go used nvidia 30 series? If you wanted to

[fresh jewel]

Hotel room build basically

[cyan ravine]

You could land a 3080 12gb or 3080 ti maybe for 500

Used

But I would avoid buying nvidia new rn

Nvidia is doing shady stuff like limiting supply to keep their high prices up

[fresh jewel]

Yeh I wouldn't buy 40 series

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeast-mr-beast-gif-25629645

[cyan ravine]

Indirectly gouging, what you pay for new is nothing in value compared to amd rn

But if you were willing to try nvidia, my experience between the two of recent are basically the same

Rdna 2 is also very good

You just take the obvious dip in rt but you get the discount as a result

[fresh jewel]

What is a 6800xt close to in Nvidia?

[cyan ravine]

3080 12gb-ish

So what you'd get used as an nvidia card, relatively speaking will be about equal to new in Radeon, maybe a tiny bit better

Lemme adjust the list rq

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4PHgJy

You'd aim for that sort of price using places like r/HardwareSwap or local facebook marketplace

Always check the seller is legit

Never do "ship immediately" always do in-person exchanges to check the card is real

[fresh jewel]

So can you still get 6800xt new?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

I mean you can get 3080 ti's new too

But for 1200$

Instead of 500$

[fresh jewel]

Yeh....

[cyan ravine]

Lol

Up to you my guy, if you go the used route for 30 series it's still respectable

[fresh jewel]

Ok thank you! I gonna study this build. And think hard about the Radeon.

[cyan ravine]

Oh and one more thing, used paypal goods and services

It gives you buyer's security in case something goes horribly wrong

Acts as a middleman for you

Never do cash

[fresh jewel]

Yeh, I know. Thank you. I probably won't be buying used.

[cyan ravine]

No worries my guy, good luck

I'm out too lads. Have fun

👋

[vague oracle]

Bruh seriously?

[trim cave]

CPU：AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor
cooling ：Asus ROG RYUJIN I1 360 71.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
mother Board ：Asus ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING WIFI II ATX AM4 Motherboard
memory ：G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (4x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
SSD ：Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU ：Asus GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB ROG STRIX GAMING OC Video Card
Case ：Corsair iCUE 4000X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
Supply ：Asus ROG STRIX G 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Fan ：8*Lian Li Uni AL
I wanna sell my gaming pc. How much should I price?

$1200?

[potent portal]

CPU - $175
Cooler - $60
Motherboard - $100
Memory - $100
SSD - $60
GPU - $500
Case - $50
PSU - $50
Fans - $100
Total - $1195

1200 would be a good sell for that. If you're listing it local you can set a higher asking price, maybe $1450, and let people haggle it down to around $1250-1300.

[burnt plaza]

any thoughts on this psu? https://www.newegg.com/sama-xp-series-xp1000w-1000-w/p/1HU-02S6-00039?Item=9SIB41TJUN7392

doesn't come from a big name manufacturer, but seems solid and a decent deal

kinda working on this, although I'm not sure I really need that powerful a cpu or mobo https://newegg.io/d895fb7

[potent portal]

As far as I can see sama only has B tier power supplies

But I don't think that unit is on the list

[obsidian wigeon]

i'd rather get an a-tier 850w

[potent portal]

And no you don't need 1000W for that, and there's better SSDs for cheaper. Samsung had it's time and that time has passed.

[burnt plaza]

referring to the cultists network list?

[obsidian wigeon]

considering that 850w psu is plenty for most hardware

is this a gaming pc?

i also wouldn't buy from just newegg alone

[burnt plaza]

yea, i was thinking 1000 might be a bit much

[potent portal]

Yes the cultist list, and I can't say if it would be an A tier without seeing the internals

Oh also no one needs a $700 motherboard unless you're doing extreme overclocking with LN2

[burnt plaza]

i currently have a 5800x and rx 7900 xtx with a seasonic 750w and haven't had any power-related anomalies lol

[cyan ravine]

we can help you do that much cheaper my guy

unless you want someone to help assemble it

[potent portal]

That 750W would be fine if you do the 7800X3D, and you'll get the same gaming performance (if not better)

[burnt plaza]

and yes, it's essentially for gaming

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wvK9GP

threw something quick together

[cyan ravine]

I could help you do that list for maybe, 1700

[obsidian wigeon]

just 2k

[cyan ravine]

if you were interested?

[obsidian wigeon]

but felix can do his magic if you're interested

[cyan ravine]

catch is you build it tho

but basically same performance for far less

[burnt plaza]

i just want to be able to take advantage of the am5 chipset to play with some faster ram

[obsidian wigeon]

b650 is perfectly fine for that

[cyan ravine]

alr gimme a sec

do you like white builds?

or do you want black

[burnt plaza]

I've considered the thought of a white build before, buuttt i think i'd just stick with a clean black build

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-eyeroll-waiter-whatever-annoyed-gif-11655054

[cyan ravine]

alr

[burnt plaza]

i'd need to change my whole living area up thematically to get a white build

lol

otherwise it wouldn't fit

[potent portal]

Hey you could do that with the money you save going with foxy's list

[obsidian wigeon]

my list probably ain't the best since i did keep some stuff fancy

[cyan ravine]

here we go cheap itx 7800x3d build incoming

[obsidian wigeon]

but it's definitely way less than what you were going for

[burnt plaza]

I like all the ideas folks could throw at me! lol

for fun at the moment, tbh. i'm just brainstorming a bit...

[obsidian wigeon]

my idea is huge pc with all the fancy stuff

felix's would be itx

[burnt plaza]

and i need ppl to talk me out of buying unnecessary shinies lolll

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zM8gJy

lemme find a couple case ideas

[obsidian wigeon]

7800x3d on that cooler?

[cyan ravine]

yep

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't exactly trust that myself

[cyan ravine]

bro stock cooler works on those cpus

88w max tdp

[potent portal]

Yep it's a chill chip

[obsidian wigeon]

eh fair enough

[cyan ravine]

little cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BTHMcH

you could change gpu to the asrock phantom gaming instead

slightly better for $10

or we could ditch the itx and price drops about 50-ish

[burnt plaza]

I guess it would help to share my current build, which isn't terrible...as i said, i just want to take advantage of am5
msi mpg x570 gaming edge
amd r7 5800x
msi rx 7900 xtx
64gb g. skill ripjaws v series ddr4 3200
seasonic 750w

[cyan ravine]

boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VCyPn6

[cyan ravine]

you have the xtx already?

[burnt plaza]

yea

[cyan ravine]

what resolution do you play in?

[burnt plaza]

1440

[cyan ravine]

what cooler is on your cpu?

[burnt plaza]

nh d15 black

[cyan ravine]

already so plenty

[burnt plaza]

but...the second fan wouldn't fit on the front cause of the ram

should've thought of that at first

regardless, the 5800x is a freakin heat engine loll

[cyan ravine]

just get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KQVK4M

[burnt plaza]

i can put the cpu in eco mode and it isn't too bad

[cyan ravine]

and then

a $20 intel ax200 gig+ kit

and a $5 4g tube of arctic MX-6

the ram is low profile so second fan should fit

[burnt plaza]

but, i'm currently just running it at an 85c limit vs the previous 90c limit and slightly undervolted at ~(-)10-15 per core

[cyan ravine]

7800x3d is much colder than the 5800x

5800x is a volcano

7800x3d works on the stock amd coolers

quite well tbh

so a d15 is overkill

[burnt plaza]

when i first got it, i had to do a bunch of research before realizing that was indeed the general consensus regarding that specific cpu

[cyan ravine]

lol

I wish I could put the paste and wifi into the web list lol

pcpp so limited

[burnt plaza]

i am something of a msi fanboy btw

[cyan ravine]

no really cheap msi boards rn

for am5

[burnt plaza]

have you known of anyone to try out that solid thermal non-paste

[cyan ravine]

or rather, ones worth recommending

[potent portal]

You can tho, add a custom part

[cyan ravine]

sign in for me and you do it

[cyan ravine]

ptm750?

[burnt plaza]

xD

[cyan ravine]

that would be honeywell stuff, very expensive

not worth it for something like this

honeywell is like, one and done stuff

[burnt plaza]

it's like a little sheet of some material, maybe some sort of graphene mesh of sorts?! i really don't know

[cyan ravine]

oh graphene pads? those are also a pass

those are better for like

ram or ssd's

not cpu's

[burnt plaza]

oooh maybe it's the KryoSheet

[cyan ravine]

kryosheet lemme look rq

[burnt plaza]

and it IS graphene. eehh got something right.

https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/products/625-kryosheet-en

[potent portal]

The pads are good for systems that you need to change a lot

[burnt plaza]

that would make sense

[minor garnet]

Do I mount fabs as ibstake or exhaust I donno

[cyan ravine]

good but expensive for no real benefit tbh

I did a bit of looking around

it's like ptm750 honeywell

but it's still a pass cos thermal grizzly expensive af

MX-6 will give the same results for like, a few $ versus maybe 30

[burnt plaza]

so stick with arctic silver or something? loll

[cyan ravine]

arctic mx-6

it's the new price/performance goat

mx-5 was a total fail

[burnt plaza]

aah will look it up

[cyan ravine]

but they fixed it with version 6

[potent portal]

Nah it was great until that bad batch

[cyan ravine]

ye so now we have mx-6

one more thing @burnt plaza

what specific seasonic psu have you got?

[burnt plaza]

"Seasonic FOCUS GX-750, 750W 80+ Gold, Full-Modular, Fan Control in Fanless, Silent, and Cooling Mode, 10 Year Warranty, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application, SSR-750FX."

lol

[cyan ravine]

ok you're good

I just wanted to check your psu waas up to scratch

[burnt plaza]

then jayztwocents was saying nowadays there's no reason to NOT have platinum or titanium efficiency in a power supply

[cyan ravine]

that's a solid psu

yep

well the things that matter, psu brands don't market

they just tout efficiency

which means basically nothing in protecting your several thousand dollar investment

[potent portal]

It's harder to figure out on SFF builds like that. I think I saw that this case was better with the top exhaust, but you can try both and see how the temps look.

[burnt plaza]

i was just watching this recently...he does a good number of tests for this specific setup, but he probably has a video that might offer info more specific to your build. or maybe what he talks about here might give you a general idea https://youtu.be/SqozuPWzUII?si=-SFWGdm-VuwUZs4V

[cyan ravine]

exhaust

[burnt plaza]

interestingly, iirc, when he put the gpu in the side config set on intake, he had better cooling than when it was set to exhaust, but that is in this specific case

[cyan ravine]

oh yeah

but this is itx

you do exhaust to push all the hot air out instead of dump in

[burnt plaza]

at this moment he talks about it https://youtu.be/SqozuPWzUII?si=K5lmPDcBheezl0rB&t=451

[cyan ravine]

on o11 the layout is very different

[burnt plaza]

ooh yea, outside of my small realm of knowledge

lolll

[cyan ravine]

no you're good, I see where that comes from

(I have an o11 evo lol)

[burnt plaza]

it's a rather inetersting video in general...some of the changes are less impactful than one might think

[cyan ravine]

in itx, everything's packed really tight, psu, gpu, cpu cooler, ram etc

lots of heat in a small space

it's better to exhaust all of it instead of giving fresh air to the cpu

your gpu will run cooler as well as the psu

which will benefit the system as a whole more

[burnt plaza]

like, taking out the bottom fans altogether had zero impact lol

[cyan ravine]

you get more dust unfortunately but such is the life of itx

you make sacrifices

[burnt plaza]

ooh yea, they scare me loll

although, i do really like the aesthetic in some of those itx builds

[cyan ravine]

what gpu did he use in that test...?

40 series?

yeah 40 series

that's not really a representative result then

40 series gpus are behemoths under their own cooling

so changes to the environment would do much less then a more hotter gpu

[burnt plaza]

let's see, he's got the lian li O11 dyna evo xl
asrock x670E
r9 7900x
rtx 4070 Master

[cyan ravine]

lol 4070

even more so

that's like a 200W gpu with a 400W cooler

yeah, you'd see a couple degrees improvement with fans under the gpu typically

o11 was famously designed for a like, chimney style layout

[burnt plaza]

idk what i'm doing wrong but i just can't get this 7900 xtx to heat up much

[cyan ravine]

one sec I'll find a diagram

[burnt plaza]

maybe my cpu's bottlenecked it...whooo knows

lol

[cyan ravine]

at 1440? yea

5800x is def a bottleneck

you also have the gaming trio which is a tier 5 XTX

lowest power profile next to reference

so won't run hot

[burnt plaza]

actually, when i first put it in (i think you guys helped me with that some time ago bc pc wouldn't post) and got it up and running, it hit over 100c at hot spot

[cyan ravine]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Flian-li.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F12%2Fo11d_evo-00-1.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0ec1730587d0ec57381eff6d2b7baf6fe515e3f1c9db0a8479f25bd0687d8c7a&ipo=images

[burnt plaza]

but haven't seen that since

[cyan ravine]

hmm not the best representation

hold on lemme do some paint

[burnt plaza]

need to borrow my wacom? xD

[cyan ravine]

pay attention to yellow, ignore red 💀

o11 was originally intended for that updraft design

jonsbo d31/ d41 does a very similar chimney design

ap201 as well

https://www.jonsbo.com/UploadFiles/20232342344.jpg

https://www.jonsbo.com/UploadFiles/20232338939.jpg

https://www.jonsbo.com/UploadFiles/20232389994.jpg

so all the air gets fed fresh into the gpu (the cooler this is the more fps), then the rest updrafts into the cpu and spat out of the pc

chimney designs are quite effective actually

[cyan ravine]

wait does it still do that?

[burnt plaza]

i could run furmark or something and see, but i don't think so

[cyan ravine]

hmm, maybe the paste had to be worn in or something

typically hotspot should be like 90's-ish at most

depends which hotspot you look at

[cyan ravine]

hm not sure

try like, 8K

or 16k

[burnt plaza]

i don't think that stress test was stressful enough lol

[cyan ravine]

1440p is a bottleneck lol

ye lol

[burnt plaza]

i could turn on rage mode in adrenalin

lol

[cyan ravine]

nah just test higher resolution

[burnt plaza]

but if the resolution is the bottleneck, then i don't think that'd matter

[cyan ravine]

ye

[little osprey]

wouldnt you

want to find a case

that has fans prebuilt?

or is i better

to buy seprate

[cyan ravine]

if I'm trying to save money I would try and get fans yes

those are just depictive for the topic of convo tho

[burnt plaza]

i can't set it above 1440

i thought there was a way

[cyan ravine]

on the top left

you can set reso no?

kekw I don't have it installed

do stress test instead of benchmark

and set it top left to like 8K

[burnt plaza]

ooh just can't do it in fullscreen

[cyan ravine]

ye

what's the gpu temp saying now

this silence is reassuring

lol

[burnt plaza]

sorry, was feeding the cat

[cyan ravine]

all good

I'd download hwinfo64 and check the other temps on the gpu

64 looks quite ok for that

[burnt plaza]

beef and chicken cat food...makes me think that it could totally be a sustainable food source that the AI would never suspect

ya know, after the AI-pocalyse

[cyan ravine]

LOL

[cyan ravine]

yeah you're absolutely fine

that looks totally normal

maybe in niche cases the hotspot might spike a little but you're good

[burnt plaza]

it's not being pressed hard enough >:D

loll

jk jk for a thousand usd, i'm happy with the results and i certainly don't wanna f it up

[cyan ravine]

yeah for sure

I see nothing to really worry about tho

like furmark in 2023 is a little light ended but you wouldn't see an insane difference in other games unless something was pushing the gpu beyond normal

[burnt plaza]

like for all the complaints regarding Starfield's performance I've seen spread amongst reddit and yt, i haven't seen any performance issues loll

guess I'd have to agree with ol Todd...maybe people need to upgrade their pc's

OR stop attempting to run at ultra graphics with their taters and then blast the game on social platforms lolll

and throw out everyone's favorite umbrella buzz word "optimization!" xD

[weak flint]

I had a server and i ran starfield on a 6650xt on ultra lol

it was perfectly fine. got about 65-75 fps

but it throttled after 6 hours 💀

[burnt plaza]

i mean, i got a pc for a friend of mine, and before i got it to him, i let him stream starfield from it on steam and it ran really well...

and that was on a 2700x w/ a rx 6600 non-xt loll

and now he's got the pc at home and he says it runs great with everything on at least high at 1080p

got the pc for $400, seemed like it was hardly used, but dude said it wouldn't even run, idk, warzone or something

and he was switching to xbox lol

what he sold it as: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700x 8-core 3.7 Ghz
STORAGE - Sandisk SSD PLUS 480 GB
GPU - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
RAM - 16 GB DDR4 RAM
NETWORK ADAPTER- Broadcom 802.11ac
POWER SUPPLY - M12II Bronze Evo Edition 620W
Windows 10 Pro

first, he had the bios still at 1.1, so no XMP

and just single-channel ram in the wrong slots

i added 16gb of ram and swapped in the 6600 and added a 1tb m.2 nvme

although, for him, anything was an upgrade, as he was gaming on a pc i built in 2013 xD

[earnest olive]

at first i thought you were running starfield at 1080p high on a 1060 3gb

[languid nimbus]

yeah wouldn’t happen

[burnt plaza]

oh yea, I gave that 1060 to a friend who just happened to be building his first pc and wanted to be able to play rocket league (not a big gamer that one)

he sounds content, so

[olive cypress]

:]

[analog hearth]

@minor garnet build looks clean ngl. Kinda jealous lol

[minor garnet]

Oh thanks

[little osprey]

Will there be a noticeable difference going from a 240mm AIO to 360mm one?

[potent portal]

Depends on your CPU but probably not

[little osprey]

I'm running a 240mm one on 13600K

No contact frame

But I'm getting a 360mm AIO and a contact frame next week

[olive cypress]

5600x pulling just 77w in cinebench r23 (stock)??
Shouldn't it use more?

[mossy venture]

For gaming it likely won't change much, since I highly doubt the cpu is throttling as is

Multi core, it could make a difference

[little osprey]

I’m gonna be running some CPU benchmarks here soon

So maybe I should do some testing with current setup

And compare

[fossil cedar]

going dual tower to 240mm doesnt make much sense tho imo

unless you really want the aesthetics

[mossy venture]

I think they're going 240 to 360

[little osprey]

Got rid of my Phantom Spirit

[stuck hornet]

Im completely new to pc building and upgrading!
I got this pc in January of 2021, its a:
"Lenovo - Legion Tower 5 AMD Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5-3600 - 8GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Super - 512GB SSD - Phantom Black, Model: 90RB000DUS"

I also bought this in June of 2022:
"SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD with Heatsink 2TB PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 Internal Solid State Drive + 2mo Adobe CC Photography, Heat Control, Max Speed, PS5 Compatible (MZ-V8P2T0CW)"

But I'm extremely confused where I'm supposed to put this SSD in my PC!

[mossy venture]

Directly on the motherboard there's nvme slots, but I'm not sure where it'd be on the motherboard

Also if you haven't upgraded ram yet, you would see a HUGE difference going from 8gb to 16gb or 32gb

I'd just sell the 8gb and buy a new kit, 16gb is $30 and 32 is $50, if you're able to

[stuck hornet]

Are those the long thin sticks in my pc?

[mossy venture]

Also if you wanna dm me a picture of your motherboard I could look for the slot

Yeah

Theyre pretty much the easiest thing to swap out

[dusky hearth]

I mean

Sata isn't hard to swap

Might be easier in some cases

My ssd is blocked by my cpu cooler

Also btw for future reference, it's always good to verify that your computer supports x hardware before buying
though to be fair, basically all modern computers have m.2 slots

But still good to check

[potent portal]

I was able to boot off nvme on my old AMD FX 8300 so yeah, anything made in the last 7 years or so should support nvme at least through an adapter

[stuck hornet]

Thank you all! Much love frens!

[dusky hearth]

Yeah, but it is much easier if you know you also need an adapter to use x hardware after the fact

Tfw you buy something and can't use it because you didn't realize you needed some other part

[stuck hornet]

So would my pc be considered..outdated in anyway?
We are just trying to basically figure out if we should just get a new pc, or slowly replace all thats in it!

[lethal tapir]

It's an older model but it checks out

[strong raft]

Ah, depends on the clocks & voltage. higher wattage for no reason wouldn't be great. For comparison, my stock 12400 pulls 65-70 in CB around 4ghz all core.

[lethal tapir]

You'd probably be best to buy a whole new pc than slowly upgrade piece by piece

But if you want it to run games you're set

[dusky hearth]

It's not that old tbh

[stuck hornet]

My Sister recently installed two long stocks that have "SP" on the sides though i have no idea what thet are

Sadly she doesn't live with us anymore

[dusky hearth]

Generally I would probably recommend buying like, a new mid end pc every 8 years, and upgrade the gpu like every 4 years for gaming

8 years is about when hardware support ends? For like, new tech or whatever

[lethal tapir]

Until the singularity hits

[dusky hearth]

Though most people either never upgrade and some people upgrade every generation (which I definitely don't recommend since it's not worth it) and more commonly people upgrade every 5 years

August 12 2036

The heat death of the universe

August 12th 2036

The heat death of the universe

[dusky hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/august-12th-2036-gif-11613738643232627859

[mossy venture]

That's silicon power ram

Probably a 16gb kit but could be 32gb

[chrome gale]

Hey yall so when we are booting our new computer for the first time, we are booting from a flashdrive, and it keeps failing to detect a driver

[lethal tapir]

That's a pretty nice first pc

[chrome gale]

We have a AMD system.

[olive cypress]

I always read that this CPU drew like 100w max stock so I was expecting the same consumption and temperature as my 3600x... Guess they were talking about total system power and not just CPU

60C is amazing

Super quiet

Need to adjust my GPU fans because they ramp up too fast

[dusky hearth]

What error?

You don't need extra drivers for installing an operating system

[chrome gale]

Hang on.

[dusky hearth]

Hmm your installation media might not have been created correctly

[chrome gale]

Alright we will remake it

[lethal tapir]

Is the usb otherwise entirely empty

[dusky hearth]

If windows media creation tool doesn't work properly, then download the iso and use Rufus to make the usb

[chrome gale]

Ill try using my windows 10 install disk.

[little osprey]

@mossy venture Yo bacca you there?

[dusky hearth]

If you don't require bacca specifically, just ask

They aren't paid to help

[potent portal]

Sometimes I wish it was that soon but really it won't be within any predictable lifetimes

[dusky hearth]

Could be sooner than we think 💀

[potent portal]

Well... no not really

[little osprey]

Am just asking because he provided a tech deal of

https://www.newegg.com/msi-rx-6750-xt-mech-2x-12g-oc/p/N82E16814137735?Item=N82E16814137735&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-137-735-_-09152023

should I replace this deal video card with my pc part picker

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyDykJ

Or should I keep the 7800?

[potent portal]

The heat death of the universe is still only a theory and predicted to happen sometimes in the next 100 billion years

[dusky hearth]

Tbh no

[little osprey]

I should just keep the 7800 xt?

[dusky hearth]

Tech deals one has terrible cooler, probably not enough for that gpu, or at least it won't be silent

You have 7700xt

[little osprey]

ohh yea

my bad

And for the pc part picker

is it decent?

any modifications

[mossy venture]

Wsp

[little osprey]

I need to make?

[mossy venture]

7700xt isn't worth it

I'd take the 3080 10gb in tech deals over it

[little osprey]

Same performance am guessing?

and would I get the 3080 ti?

[mossy venture]

3080 10gb is a bit worse than 6800xt

7700xt I belive loses to 3080

Though since you want white it's up to you

[little osprey]

So the 6800xt is better than the 7700xt?

[mossy venture]

Yes

[little osprey]

it makes 0 sense

💀

But

[mossy venture]

This gen is very weird

[little osprey]

What is the price of the 6800 xt?

am guessing 300?

[mossy venture]

It's been on sale as low as $420

But normally around $500

[little osprey]

So if I changed my pc part picker with the 6800 xt, I would get better performance?

[mossy venture]

Yeah rn its $500, so 7700xt is better value than it

[potent portal]

Welcome to the new normal

[little osprey]

sorry but am confused

[chrome gale]

Alright i remade my USB. And same issue still.

[little osprey]

as hell rn

the 7800 xt is the new model??

and its worse?

[mossy venture]

Ok so here's how it goes

[mossy venture]

7700xt 3080 10gb 6800xt 7800xt 3080 12gb 3080 ti 6950xt

In that order, roughly

[potent portal]

Do you have a drive recognized in bios?

[dusky hearth]

Did your bios detect your drive(s)?

[little osprey]

So I am getting the 7800 xt 12 gb, am guessing the 7800 16gb is the best?

or am I wrong?

[chrome gale]

Let me check.

[mossy venture]

There's only 7800xt 16gb afaik

[little osprey]

For the 3080 ti or the 6950xt

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyDykJ

would it be posible to find one that is same price or cheaper?

I honestly dont care about the white anymore

[mossy venture]

Used, definitely

New, not really

I'd say that 3080 10gb open box is the best price/perf at $405 atm

[chrome gale]

Where is the BIOS stuff?

[little osprey]

so the 7800 xt is the worst?

wow...

[mossy venture]

Nah, 7700xt is

[mossy venture]

Well, in value

7700xt is the worst value of any of the cards you're looking at

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kPvD4D/asrock-steel-legend-oc-radeon-rx-7700-xt-12-gb-video-card-rx7700xt-sl-12go

@mossy venture Can you tell me the performance list instead of value?

[mossy venture]

That's what I did before

[chrome gale]

Under Qflash it diesnt see anything...

[dusky hearth]

When rebooting, hold the key that sends you to bios, which may be the delete key, or like f1, but check your manual or whatever

[little osprey]

ohhh ok

[dusky hearth]

Oh

[dusky hearth]

Btw put your ram in separated by one slot

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=video+card+white

[dusky hearth]

You're running in single channel currently

[little osprey]

Am looking at this

right now

[chrome gale]

Alright ill fi. That first.

[little osprey]

Do you think any would be suited?

[mossy venture]

Most of that is really overpriced

[dusky hearth]

Also what type of drive are you using

[mossy venture]

Tbh all of it is

Most reasonable price is $580 for a 6800xt and that's still bad

[little osprey]

my head hurts bruh

[chrome gale]

Samsung 2TB SSD

[little osprey]

this is no annoying

I dont know what video card to get

💀

[dusky hearth]

No I mean like, nvme m.2? Sata? Sata m.2?

Ah

Sata it is

Could have a faulty sata data cable

[mossy venture]

For a white gpu this isn't a super high premium, but 4070 just isn't super well price https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HZZXsY/galax-ex-gamer-white-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-47nom7md7kwh

[chrome gale]

I can try getting a new SATA then.

[mossy venture]

4070 is 6800xt perf

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-rtx-4070-ventus-2x-12g-oc/p/N82E16814137787?Item=N82E16814137787

What about black?

Is this good?

[dusky hearth]

Try plugging into a different sata

[mossy venture]

Basically paying $194 over that 3080 10gb for new over open box, 2gb vram, white, and like 5% perf diff

[dusky hearth]

On mobo

[mossy venture]

Ok, but 7800xt is better perf

And 3080 10gb is within 10% of it

[dusky hearth]

It's hard to type with one hand

While walking lmao

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-rtx-3080-ventus-3x-plus-10g-oc-lhr/p/N82E16814137816?Item=N82E16814137816

What about this

[mossy venture]

Do you have anything against open box/zotac?

[little osprey]

is zotac bad?

open box is fine

[dusky hearth]

No

[little osprey]

so why mention zotac?

whats the problo with that

[lyric thistle]

try while snacking with both hands occupied

[mossy venture]

https://www.zotacstore.com/us/zt-a30800f-10p-o

Better than ventus 3x

And $70 cheaper

[little osprey]

@mossy venture The 7800 xt is worse than the Zotac 3080?

[mossy venture]

No, 7800xt would be a bit better

But also almost $100 more

[dusky hearth]

It was one they recommended

[mossy venture]

I'd say the biggest difference is the vram, titles are starting to consume vram

[little osprey]

Thanks for your help bacca am going to take a break, this is making my head hurt

[mossy venture]

Lol understandable, sorry

[little osprey]

not your fault

[weary galleon]

We need an updated gpu chart thingy

Oh wait it is updated (thanks🙏)

#graphics-cards message

[chrome gale]

Does the SATA plug into the motherboard or PSU?

[dusky hearth]

Both

[potent portal]

As of february so it doesn't include the new releases

[dusky hearth]

But usually the faulty cable is the sata data cable which plugs to the mobo

[weary galleon]

ah. Still good to see it's being worked on though.

[olive cypress]

I found out why my cinebench scores with the 5600x were lower than average, installing the new CPU disabled xmp and I didn't remember to turn it back on lol

[dusky hearth]

You get it working?

[strong raft]

Small sata data cables go mobo to hdd/ssd, sata power is in pic below:

[weary galleon]

@pseudo pollen I feel your pain. Couple less fans in my case but it's even smaller than yours. I really should have gotten an sfx PSU or at least semi modular but I decided to go ultra budget

[pseudo pollen]

Mine was just an upgrade, but I decided to get some higher-end fans for some more airflow in my case, but since they all have to go to a hub at the back (with not much room for cable management) it just got all messed up. fyi I got the mesh version of the case, so no glass panels

[weary galleon]

Yeah same, no glass panel so in the end asthetics don't matter, just trying to keep cables from getting hit by fan blades haha

[pseudo pollen]

true, I accidentally bought an extra fan because I thought I could fit it in there, but there are no screw holes to mount it unfortunately

[hasty cove]

anyone recomend ethernet cables

?

[minor garnet]

Itx experience

[little osprey]

Hm

I'd argue it just being an NZXT cooler

[little osprey]

Cat 6, and pick a length

[minor garnet]

Itx experience

GPU is mad

[fossil cedar]

Nzxt aio

Also if it is actually that temp (don't trust nzxt cam, use msi afterburner or something to see real temps) if you make the fan curve a bit more agressive it'll be good as 83ish is the throttle point of most gpus

[cyan ravine]

That is hilariously hot for an xc3 3080

Hilariously hot to begin with but that is dialling it up a notch

[minor garnet]

i made fans exhaust and its at 80c now

but cpu went for 70c max to 91c but should be ok i think

[fossil cedar]

Yeah cpu temp is grand, the gpu is the one of concern

[burnt plaza]

@cyan ravine how about this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KMpCL9

[cyan ravine]

Same outcome nearly half the price
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m6XDxH

(Air mini has an mATX layout)

[burnt plaza]

this is about the same https://newegg.io/5cccf7c

oh

[obsidian wigeon]

no board and ssd

ah wait

i guess i missed the context

[burnt plaza]

https://newegg.io/5cccf7c

it didn't update

[burnt plaza]

i don't really want a mini case xD

or a gigabyte mobo lol

thank you for the effort though

one of these

[obsidian wigeon]

still i wouldn't spend $299 on am5 mobo

that's way overkill for anything

[burnt plaza]

and i have a x570 and like it...so i was going to stick with the x series

[obsidian wigeon]

no sense to

[burnt plaza]

aren't the B series lesser?

[obsidian wigeon]

unless you use the extra i/o

even a620 is plenty

[burnt plaza]

fine. i'll get the godlike.

you guys run a tough ship xD

[weak flint]

my guy did you literally search best motherboards?

[burnt plaza]

i searched msi mobos 2023

[obsidian wigeon]

our goal is value over anything

so yeah, we kinda don't care about aesthetics

[burnt plaza]

that's fair. thank you.

[weak flint]

get a a620 worst case just pay for a cheap docking station

[burnt plaza]

a620 = cheap?

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

cheap and good

cause the whole am5 lineup is basically overbuilt for the cpus available

[burnt plaza]

i understand

[obsidian wigeon]

at most i'd throw 200 since you already get so much at that price tag

[weak flint]

what usecase would you even have for an overbuilt mobo

[burnt plaza]

understand, if I'm playing a game, and I can't find the right look for my character, for example, if the game just doens't offer it, if I don't appreciate the aesthetics, then it's garbage to me, as that is a part of my enjoyment

not to say I'm not willing to be practical, bc my current pc isn't a spectacle to gaze upon, but I do appreciate how it looks

i'm know that sounds superficial, and probably childish, and I'm willing to look at every possible option

i am grateful for the time you guys are spending to help me out

[cyan ravine]

No point spending more than 150 max on AM5. Almost all the motherboards for AM5 are way over the needed spec. So A620's for example have the build quality more like b550, b650 to x570 etc

Your 7800x3d is an 88w max tdp cpu, a basic motherboard is all the more reason it would be fine to use. It doesn't need any insane vrm of a higher tier

[burnt plaza]

but, from the list i posted, you get kinda what i'm going for...I just don't want to sacrifice something that will cause me an amount of anguish down the road lolll

[cyan ravine]

Also o11 air mini is as big as a full atx lol

It's like

Wider than an atx case

But a bit shorter

Lol

Air mini and o11 evo have very similar footprints

(I own both cases so...)

[cyan ravine]

Honestly a good a620m will run any am5 cpu at full power no issue

Gaming x can do it

Asrock pro rs can too

I can link reviews if you're unsure lol

iirc it was wccftech that did both the good a620's

They're practically b650's with the quality that they are

Don't knock it for the name

[burnt plaza]

and to give you guys an idea, i'm on workers comp til next year cause my geriatric 38-yr old hip got broken at work. i have very little bills. and i get like $550 a week from insurance. lol

[cyan ravine]

Good lord

The medical bills tho

[burnt plaza]

all paid for

[cyan ravine]

I do not wish for that sort of pain

Broken hip is supposed to be quite painful

[burnt plaza]

all $80k+

xD

i can safely say it is the only pain that has made me shout out loud

ever

in my life xD

[cyan ravine]

I believe it

I mean even if you go the o11 evo I wouldn't blame it. It's a decent case. Do I still like it after 2 years? Nope lol

It's practical, but there are definitely better cases

[burnt plaza]

and the single worst moment...in the ER, even having been pumped up with pain killing stuff, they couldn't get me onto the xray table, so they wanted to slide a massive board under me to do the x-rays...

[cyan ravine]

Oh no and the lift

[burnt plaza]

note that at this point, no one knew i had a displaced femoral neck fracture loll

[cyan ravine]

Noooooo

Ah man, all the others gone quiet

Too young to understand

That sounds dreadful

[burnt plaza]

they thought i was being stubborn and ungrateful i'm sure loll

[cyan ravine]

LOL ouch

[burnt plaza]

lolll no no, it's understandable xD

had this guy once who wanted help in ESO...order gent. He wanted to be a tank and i gave him my years of knowledge...and he didn't like it

and then he came back and said he would take the advice

and then he got mad bc i wouldn't stop what i was doing with family on mom's day to help him out, so he left our discord and, i assume, blocked me haha

i'm not trying to be that guy

[cyan ravine]

Eso?

[burnt plaza]

Elder Scrolls Online

sry

[cyan ravine]

Oh that was my guess but I wasn't sure

[cyan ravine]

No you're good

[burnt plaza]

it was kinda funny, my friends were mad i was trying to help him bc he had pretty much ignored their advice as well

and i let him tank some dungeons...and he did terrible xD

[cyan ravine]

Yeah we get people like that from time to time but it hasn't bothered me for a long time

[burnt plaza]

he wasn't listening lolll and they were like 'yea, we're not playing if you're gonna bring him along'

[cyan ravine]

Yikes

Lol

It do be like that tho, there's always one guy or two lol

Anyway

I have a challenge for you

[burnt plaza]

yea, it kinda became a running joke afterwards

[cyan ravine]

Try scanning newegg for the nicest motherboard you like, for around $150

I reckon you'll find maybe 1 or 2 that look good

Brands like asrock for am5 are the best

Asrock and gigabyte have the best physical trace designs for am5

As well as agesa compatibility

But you find one and post it here

Strong chance I'll say it's really good

[burnt plaza]

k, first i'm gonna work on breakfast, bc i just had ice cream, coffee, and crackers yesterday loll

[cyan ravine]

All good my guy

I wanna say the goal of this is to make the compromise to save money but not really sacrifice the looks

Try not to hyperfocus on a brand, as I said before, almost all the boards for am5 are overkill

Then you can use what you saved to throw more at say a better gpu or more storage

Cos like, $500 is more than the difference from a 4080 to 4090, if that makes any sense?

That's a huge upgrade alone, nearly 30% more performance

We can have the cake and eat it too

[little osprey]

Hey all i am about to start bulding my Tiach B650E and 7900XTX Tiachi Build i was reading online a couple of reviews of hotspot problems on the 7900xtx Tiachi and now im worried about problems. It was like 3 reviews on newegg now i am afraid i will build my pc and have problems
can anyone help ease my mind i just worry my 7900xtx Tiachi will have problems and break my pc

[cyan ravine]

1 in probably 1000 chance and it's fixed with 15 minutes of work anyway

[little osprey]

thanks i was just worried i know like 10 reivews does not mean ill have the problem since they probably sold tons

[little osprey]

i guess stuff happens and i worry

[cyan ravine]

times like this when I wish I actually worked for Newegg, I could fix it in 5 minutes myself lol

[burnt plaza]

well i already have a rx 7900 xtx, 1tb ssd, and 2tb m.2 nvme (and an old 1tb hdd)

[cyan ravine]

I mean a much better monitor or keyboard could also count

[burnt plaza]

thanks for the optimism