Ultimately just wanna do a ITX media station for streaming stuff
#building-and-recc-chat
little osprey
mossy venture
prob this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zBn8TW/asrock-a520m-itxac-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-a520m-itxac
little osprey
Do you think I wil be able to find a 6800xt but white? Or is that not a thing?
Don’t know how much DDR3 would limit me
mossy venture
nah not really
earnest olive
don't go anything older than 4th gen for anything you intend to actually use
anything older than 4th gen is for hwbot purposes only at this point
mossy venture
Do you think I wil be able to find a 6800xt but white? Or is that not a thing?
but again back order
mossy venture
could be 2 days could be a month
little osprey
it looks good
mossy venture
I've no idea
earnest olive
4790k is cool
mossy venture
could buy a black gpu and paint the shroud white
little osprey
I’m stupid I know
little osprey
could buy a black gpu and paint the shroud white
potentially ruin the electronics yk?
It’s just one of those projects I wanna do
mossy venture
potentially ruin the electronics yk?
nah, you take the shroud off the gpu itself and paint it
earnest olive
anything older than 4th gen lacks AVX2 so
mossy venture
and then put it back on
earnest olive
just avoid anything older than 4th gen
mossy venture
but i understand not wanting to do that
earnest olive
i/o
earnest olive
timetec 
little osprey
timetec <:monkaS:790930403241623553>
is that bad?
earnest olive
i have a very interesting timetec kit
little osprey
your intresting timtec kit didnt have any probloms right?
little osprey
I should probably find another one ehh
earnest olive
nah it's probably fine lol
little osprey
earnest olive
i've just had one interesting experience with them myself
fleet heron
But the 6800 xt and 3080 ti are only like 5-10% different performance wise
mossy venture
But the 6800 xt and 3080 ti are only like 5-10% different performance wise
they're talking about the 6800 and 6800xt
not 6800xt and 3080 ti
fleet heron
Ohh I see
little osprey
What are some cheap HDD’s good for bulk storage?
mossy venture
What are some cheap HDD’s good for bulk storage?
How much storage you need?
And how much you wanting to spend?
little osprey
And how much you wanting to spend?
Ultimately I found a 4TB drive for about $70
Was told to go 5400RPM for NAS
plucky timber
$70?
What about 8TB drives?
nvm the 4TB ones are better value
8TB drives are more than double
manic cloak
Definitely a fake
potent portal
What's fake about it? That's about the right price for a used switch, and I have that limited edition one myself. It gets you an item in animal crossing.
runic spruce
Definitely a fake
Maybe just a crappy battery
potent portal
So... the normal battery?
obsidian wigeon
lmao
lyric thistle
What's fake about it? That's about the right price for a used switch, and I have...
take a knife to it and you discover it's a cheesecake
manic cloak
What's fake about it? That's about the right price for a used switch, and I have...
Csnt you get fake ones off of temu or whatever
worn wave
Off of Aliexpress most likely, but they are really obvious.
potent portal
Csnt you get fake ones off of temu or whatever
Those were real, they were just rarely in stock
And that one looks right to me, unless the perspective of that pic is weird and it's actually tiny
It has the right box art for the limited edition and everything
hot kite
Question. Would the Ryzen 7 7700X be a good pair with an RX 6800XT?
potent portal
Yeah that would be a good match
manic cloak
It has the right box art for the limited edition and everything
gotcha
little osprey
How do I fix this?
Really annoying how expensive ITX and SFX are
Trying to make a NAS that doubles as a media center for streaming
Dunno how much RAM matters when it’s DDR3
languid nimbus
Do you already own the 4790k
little osprey
Do you already own the 4790k
Yeah
potent portal
What program would you be using to make it a media center? Are you just hosting the files or transcoding like with Plex?
mossy venture
Really annoying how expensive ITX and SFX are
There's some cases that fit atx psus, but they're normally not much smaller than matx or atx, like p200a
Pcp says the core v1 does but that case looks absolutely tiny
mossy venture
?
little osprey
I was planning on buying all of the parts
💀
Then you show me this
Fits the design, and is better for the same price
little osprey
3080 ti or just regular?
mossy venture
It kinda goes between 3080 10gb-3090 perf depending on the game and some other things
Any between 3080 10gb, 3080 12tb and 3080 ti
The 12gb or ti would be nice for the extra vram, but if it's cheap the 10gb is fine
10gb is also about 8-10% worse than the 12gb and ti
little osprey
So it goes like this (worst) 6800 XT / 3080 / 3080 ti / 7800 XT (Best)
mossy venture
Eh, 3090 3090 ti 6900xt and 6950xt are pretty similar in performance
little osprey
Do you mind showing the the NVIDIA video card that is closest to Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB
mossy venture
Same with the other 5 tbh
mossy venture
Do you mind showing the the NVIDIA video card that is closest to Radeon RX 7800 ...
I'd say 3080 ti
In a lot of games its barely beating the 6800xt, driver updates might help it a bit
little osprey
@mossy venture 3090ti is better than the 7800?
little osprey
I cant seem to find a 3090ti white or a 3080 ti white
mossy venture
It's power consumption and power spikes are very high
little osprey
It's power consumption and power spikes are very high
so best if I go for the 3080 ti?
mossy venture
I cant seem to find a 3090ti white or a 3080 ti white
I know for sure there's white 3080 10gb
little osprey
I know for sure there's white 3080 10gb
tryna find it
mossy venture
so best if I go for the 3080 ti?
3080 12gb is within like 3% of the ti
So either or
little osprey
What do you mean %3?
mossy venture
3090 would be fine as well
little osprey
3% performance difference?
mossy venture
Yeah
mossy venture
Theyre basically the same gpu
strong raft
Decent 3080 Ti can match a 3090 in games. I wouldn't bother w/ either 3090 tbh unless obviously you needed more than 12GB vram.
mossy venture
Normally it's atleast a noticeable difference like 2080 ti
1080 ti was very nice over the 1080
little osprey
Decent 3080 Ti can match a 3090 in games. I wouldn't bother w/ either 3090 tbh u...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LTYhgB
What do you think I can change this video card with to suit the 7800? Am looking for specifically a white design yk
mossy venture
But in 30 series case with the exception of 3060 ti and 3050 ti it doesn't mean much
3070 ti is like 2% better than 3070, and has much hotter vram
little osprey
This is the only one I can find
and its $100 more than the 7800 XT
AND ITS REFURBISHED
mossy venture
I meant used as in like ebay
little osprey
@mossy venture what is the general price of it?
mossy venture
Also there's refurb 3080s for around $420 or so
little osprey
and isnt it worse than the 7800 XT?
mossy venture
Just not white
mossy venture
obsidian wigeon
7800xt is a lot faster than 3060ti
little osprey
@mossy venture What about this?
MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4060 Ti close to 7800 XT?
obsidian wigeon
4060ti performs the same as 3060ti btw
little osprey
bro what
obsidian wigeon
didn't we already tell you that last day
little osprey
No
little osprey
Bro what the hell is this market
obsidian wigeon
that 4060 and 4060ti aren't any better than their predecessor
mossy venture
A lot better than two years ago
Two years ago you'd be lucky if you got a 3060 12gb for $600
obsidian wigeon
prices are actually sane, just that this gen of gpus are meh to terrible
mossy venture
^
obsidian wigeon
or good but expensive
obsidian wigeon
why would you insist on nvidia when radeon offers more performance for the same price
little osprey
why would you insist on nvidia when radeon offers more performance for the same ...
Because the thing I need is on back order
obsidian wigeon
otherwise you could go on ebay
mossy venture
That'd be fine, but you willing to sacrifice around 40-50% of gpu perf (saving a good bit of money tbf) for aesthetics?
obsidian wigeon
and get used cards
mossy venture
If you are, thats fine
mossy venture
Also there's that 3080 10gb refurb for $430, that's fine
little osprey
This is what I want to buy
mossy venture
Just not white
obsidian wigeon
i'd get 6800xt instead personally
not that the 7800xt is bad, just price is a bit high for my opinion
mossy venture
There's also this, but matches 3080/6800xt for $600
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LLP8TW/asus-dual-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-12-gb-video-card-dual-rtx4070-o12g-white
Pretty bad pricing
little osprey
@obsidian wigeon Bacca told me the 6800 and the 7800 are the same price right now?
obsidian wigeon
so white is a must?
little osprey
so white is a must?
would prefer, but if it has to happen I understand
Bacca told me to spray paint, so I can take the risk
mossy venture
If you'll spray paint it, then that refurb 3080 or 6800xt
Or whatever used gpu you find in budget
Could find a 6950xt in $500 used
little osprey
Man for that price I would rather wait for the 7800 to restock
Might just back order
and wait
obsidian wigeon
that's also an option
little osprey
@obsidian wigeon Do you think prices will go down in the future?
or stay consistant?
obsidian wigeon
they will within just a month or two
little osprey
why is that?
mossy venture
It's a new release so stock rn is a bit odd
And people are receiving the launch very well since the last few releases we've had (4060, 4060 ti, 4070) have been pretty terrible value
And while it's still not great it's better than we've been getting
obsidian wigeon
^
little osprey
@mossy venture
am going to be honest
I change my mind
6800 would work just as fine
strong raft
If so, might as well lookup 6750XT also. probably.
mossy venture
6800 would work just as fine
👍
little osprey
mossy venture
I'd still take a 3080 refurb over a new 6800 personally
little osprey
Or is there other websites with better prices?
mossy venture
Ebay has a $420 zotac 3080 refurb I linked earlier
mossy venture
<@654444344274845698> https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-10g-p5-3897-k...
Those 3080s have a $45 shipping cost, and while it doesn't really matter they're likely mining cards
So they should honestly be cheaper
I'd take that over either of the evga ones
Or there was a gigabyte gaming oc for $430 I think from the same seller
little osprey
Those 3080s have a $45 shipping cost, and while it doesn't really matter they're...
how do I know if they were used for mining bitcoin
or like
over stressed?
mossy venture
It doesnt quite matter much since they were likely repeated and cleaned to be refurbished
And mining doesn't really degrade a gpu
But from what I've seen on the used market they're worth less because of the stigma around them
pseudo pollen
You'd think it would but it's actually better then gaming
it's continually stressed instead of being heated up and cooling down over and over
mossy venture
Yeah technichally, due to it being consistently hot instead of heat cycles
I still wouldn't pay almost $500 for a refurb 3080 10gb
And I believe without warranty
pseudo pollen
no
little osprey
since I dont trust ebay sellers
mossy venture
Ventus 3x is the worst 3080 model
pseudo pollen
msi ventus is the worst model of 3080
little osprey
nevermind
pseudo pollen
anyways, ebay has their money back guarantee
mossy venture
And is verified by ebay themselves
little osprey
@mossy venture I am a ebay seller, ive been selling for 5 years
Just because of the reviews
and vertification
doesnt mean they legit
mossy venture
K
pseudo pollen
have you had a bad experience with a ebay seller or what?
mossy venture
Do what you want then, I've given my advice but it's your decision and your money
little osprey
have you had a bad experience with a ebay seller or what?
I am a ebay seller, ive been selling for a long time and I know reviews and a badge that is automatically given after getting a certain number of reviews
pseudo pollen
answer the question
little osprey
@mossy venture I will buy this https://www.ebay.com/itm/155174974833?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2bCBlDMmSmy&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
little osprey
answer the question
Yes
and I also had bad customers
and the stuff I have done
is not good
pseudo pollen
bad customers isn't the problem if you're buying something
little osprey
bad customers isn't the problem if you're buying something
ebay is prob the worst company you can buy from
Your money back guarenteed
is not guarenteed
little osprey
I think my experience will speak for it self...
pseudo pollen
it's the sellers on ebay
pseudo pollen
listen, I do not care if you have been selling for 5 years
you come here and ask for advice, we give it to you
little osprey
correct, you gave me advice for the Video cardI should buy. I never asked for advice about the money back guarentee and the seller...
pseudo pollen
it's your money, and you can do with it what you please
yet you were saying you didn't want ebay or something like that
little osprey
Correct. Thats just my preferrence
pseudo pollen
and showing a newegg listing
so if you're not going to take the advice, why bother asking?
no need to tell us that you are an ebay seller
little osprey
Bro I asked for advice for the prices of video cards, I said I dont want ebay? Like?
You want to force down ebay on me?
pseudo pollen
none of those have good used cards
micro center is more of a local thing
nothing we can do online
amazon usually ships bad cards, newegg just is overpriced, bestbuy is a combination of the two
little osprey
There are multiple websites that sell, but when I asked not to be ebay. You are giving me advice based on a experience you prob never had?
pseudo pollen
and microcenter sells open box things in-store, so not like we can go there and check for you
mossy venture
Invisible I'm kinda with lsq here
little osprey
and microcenter sells open box things in-store, so not like we can go there and ...
Newegg is deadass the same but a little more expensive...
pseudo pollen
There are multiple websites that sell, but when I asked not to be ebay. You are ...
If you want to, go buy on those websites
little osprey
Also you never knew my experience? Newegg let me return a PC I had for 6 months
pseudo pollen
Newegg is deadass the same but a little more expensive...
exactly what I said
mossy venture
It's his decision and you kinda lost it, he was respectful about the way he said it and wasn't disregarding our opinion
pseudo pollen
To be fair, he was
mossy venture
Not at all
little osprey
man I feel like your forcing ebay on me
Like I told you, my experiences I wish not
pseudo pollen
go ahead and buy from somewhere else
mossy venture
It is his money and his decision.
pseudo pollen
That's what I've been saying
mossy venture
We can give advice, we cannot make a decision for someone else
pseudo pollen
multiple times at this point
mossy venture
That's what I've been saying
You've been berating the dude for choosing a different seller my guy
You lowkey kinda lost it
little osprey
Invisible I'm kinda with lsq here
Thank you for time, and helping me learn more. You have been very helpful
pseudo pollen
You've been berating the dude for choosing a different seller my guy
I told him that other websites don't sell very good used cards
mossy venture
Some people straight up ignore us and I can understand being annoyed at them
little osprey
Bro is choosing the seller for me 💀
mossy venture
But he wasn't rude or disrespectful
pseudo pollen
I didn't send a single link lol
mossy venture
Let's just leave it alone on both ends and move on
little osprey
pseudo pollen
mossy venture
Ok I'm going to bed I actually have to be alive tomorrow
pseudo pollen
sounds good, gn
minor garnet
whats some good airflow/style wise micro or itx cases i have an atx and im looking to down size
obsidian wigeon
pop mini air
minor garnet
i think i found the best itx case
fossil cedar
Ssupd meshilicous best itx case imo don't @ me
cyan ravine
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fossil cedar
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Same bro
fossil cedar
Indeed
little osprey
What program would you be using to make it a media center? Are you just hosting ...
Haven't really decided
Just wanna be able to hook it up under my TV and be able to play media files or stream off websites
Really haven't thought through how the files would be transferred to it
potent portal
Well if you do go plex you'll need a GPU to transcode. The CPU isn't powerful enough.
If you'll be transcoding into 4k you'll need at least a 1070/2060. If only 1080p then you can go a little cheaper but make sure it's got at least 4gb vram.
mossy venture
There's a 1060 5gb with no display out that might be cheap, though they're rare so they might actually cost more than 1060 6gb because people are weird
little osprey
Well if you do go plex you'll need a GPU to transcode. The CPU isn't powerful en...
I'm completely new to this remote stuff, so sorry if I don't entirely understand
What's transcoding and how will I know the resolution?
little osprey
There's a 1060 5gb with no display out that might be cheap, though they're rare ...
Are they like a server card or something?
little osprey
Pcp says the core v1 does but that case looks absolutely tiny
I wanna get a smaller case since it's gonna sit next to or under my TV
Found a 6GB 1060 for $75
mossy venture
I dont know if amd vs nvidia matters for this, kf it does I'd look for any 10 series above 1060 3gb and any 16 series with 6gb vram (not 1650 and 1650 super)
2060/s would be fine if cheap enough
I'd guess 3050 and 3050 ti 3060 8gb would be fine too but they'd likely be a lot more expensive
mossy venture
Are they like a server card or something?
Believe so
mossy venture
I dont know if amd vs nvidia matters for this, kf it does I'd look for any 10 se...
Actually I take this back
Fal said 4gb would be fine
So I'd say 1050 ti or better and any 16 series, just depends on price
little osprey
I'm seeing in the reviews this case has an included PSU, but knowing this came out in 2009 I have my doubts
Does this card seriously have 8GB VRAM?
obsidian wigeon
Are they like a server card or something?
nah, they were actually for crypto mining
mossy venture
Idts, i believe they came out for servers and such but they were used most often for mining
potent portal
Transcoding is taking one format or resolution of video and converting it to another in real time. So if you have an old TV show in 480p resolution, but you want to display it in 1080p, it needs to be either converted beforehand or transcoded while you're playing it.
potent portal
What's transcoding and how will I know the resolution?
As for the resolution, it'll vary. Most modern TVs are 4k, but can display 1080p and sometimes lower resolutions. Or if you're playing on another computer, your target is whatever your monitor resolution is.
cyan ravine
potent portal
Plex doesn't need a lot of power to transcode to 1080p, a 1050 ti should work but don't go any lower or older than that.
little osprey
As for the resolution, it'll vary. Most modern TVs are 4k, but can display 1080p...
My TV is at least a decade old
We only have a single smart TV
olive cypress
is there a way to contact dell and get info about one of their products? (i'm looking for something that isn't specified on the product manuals)
potent portal
Then it's probably 1080p and you would need a receiver to play the video on, like a game console or Roku box
little osprey
Receiver?
potent portal
Dell won't share specific details because they're anti repair and anti upgrade usually but it doesn't hurt to ask
potent portal
Receiver?
For a not smart TV you need a way to play videos, which will receive the data sent by the server and display it
olive cypress
Dell won't share specific details because they're anti repair and anti upgrade u...
ok, but where do i ask? their website is full of confusing stuff and only thing i can find is help to solve an issue
but i don't actually have issues on the pc and just need some info
potent portal
I'd assume support@dell.com would go somewhere
olive cypress
so just via email like that? feel like they wont answer 
potent portal
They'll answer eventually but it might not be the answer you want
olive cypress
it's either no answer or no answer if idont ask them
potent portal
Worst case you get a "sorry we can't help you" reply
olive cypress
yeah likely
little osprey
For a not smart TV you need a way to play videos, which will receive the data se...
Oh, would I not be able to directly hook up the server to the TV or would the OS be a limitation?
olive cypress
am i supposed to write the email in english right?
potent portal
English yes
potent portal
Oh, would I not be able to directly hook up the server to the TV or would the OS...
You can plug the server into the TV. In that case the server is doing double duty as both server and receiver.
Or if you don't want to access the files from other computers, just run VLC media player and play the files directly.
little osprey
You can plug the server into the TV. In that case the server is doing double dut...
Well that’s kinda what I wanted to do
Ultimately I wanted to create a system where I could play files from the little server directly into the TV
My question is if I could remotely access the files on the server or download stuff onto it remotely
Does PSU matter that much for near decade old hardware?
Most of the SFX PSU's on the tier list are $100-
potent portal
My question is if I could remotely access the files on the server or download st...
Both are possible, and fairly easy. If you're running windows you can just share a folder and everyone with the password can access it. Linux can do that too with SMB, it's the same protocol.
potent portal
Does PSU matter that much for near decade old hardware?
In this case no it doesn't matter much, but don't ever get below D tier. Risk of fire or catastrophic failure due to lack of protections is much higher in lower tiers.
fleet heron
can anyone tell me the difference between efficiency and preformace cores?
do they have diffrent tasks ?
potent portal
P cores have higher clock speeds, more cache, and have hyper threading
E cores are lower power and good for background tasks
fleet heron
ah i see, so when looking for like a computer for work or something i would benefit from e cores more than p cores
potent portal
Not really, it only makes a difference in power draw for tasks in certain situations
fleet heron
Ah
sullen spoke
the division of e cores and p cores was especially good for mobile devices since it is more efficient. I believe it can also offload background tasks to e cores while dedicating p cores to more intensive applications.
potent portal
Oh yeah that power difference helps laptops a bunch
fleet heron
Then what do threads do? Does the amount of threads matter?
potent portal
Threads determine how many tasks you can do at once
fleet heron
Ohhhhh I see
potent portal
But each logical thread is also capable of handling multiple tasks at once if it's not fully used by one of them
fleet heron
Ah
little osprey
In this case no it doesn't matter much, but don't ever get below D tier. Risk of...
Well, I’ve been looking at some HTPC cases with like 300W PSU’s but obviously those aren’t listed on the PSU tier list so I’m unsure what to think
potent portal
Those are typically good enough, unless it's a random unknown case manufacturer then they use the cheapest thing possible
300W should be enough for that build too, assuming you are sticking with the 1050 ti suggestion
serene zodiac
Is this where I list a system build to see if the parts are compatible?.
little osprey
300W should be enough for that build too, assuming you are sticking with the 105...
I was wondering if I could leach off the iGPU but if a 1050 Ti works I can do that too
Would it be difficult to fit a DVD player in here? I just saw it has a 3.5in drive bay
serene zodiac
O-11 dynamic mini case
MSI atx z690 gaming carbon pro
Intel i7 13700k
Corsair sf750 platinum
Corsair dom ddr5 6000 32gx2,-x2-128gb
Corsair mp600 pro m.2 nvme 2tb
Nzxt kraken z63 280 rgb + display
Or
Nzxt kraken elite 280 rgb + display
GeForce rtx 4080 16gb gaming x trio
Or
GeForce rtx 3060 12gb gaming x trio
I'm curious if the kraken elite will fit in this build and if the 4080 is worth it over the 3060 in this build
potent portal
I was wondering if I could leach off the iGPU but if a 1050 Ti works I can do th...
That old iGPU can't handle HD content, it would struggle playing YouTube
little osprey
That old iGPU can't handle HD content, it would struggle playing YouTube
I completely forget sometimes that’s how stuff works
My bad
💀
potent portal
Would it be difficult to fit a DVD player in here? I just saw it has a 3.5in dri...
3.5" is for a hard drive. If you need it to play DVDs there's slim external ones.
Internal DVD drives need a 5.25" Bay
mossy venture
Is this where I list a system build to see if the parts are compatible?.
Pcpartpicker.com, but a lot of those parts are very overpriced
I'm assuming that build is costing over $2500?
little osprey
3.5" is for a hard drive. If you need it to play DVDs there's slim external ones...
GOD I’M SO STUPID
No I don’t NEED DVD’s I just thought it’d be nice if my dad wanted to watch something
Drive bays are like a thing of the past to me
potent portal
O-11 dynamic mini case
MSI atx z690 gaming carbon pro
Intel i7 13700k
Corsair s...
You could get a 4090/7800X3D build for what you'd be spending on that 4080 build
little osprey
O-11 dynamic mini case
MSI atx z690 gaming carbon pro
Intel i7 13700k
Corsair s...
I would opt for a different AIO
mossy venture
I would opt for a different pretty much everything
I csnt make a list though I'm bringing my partner to the doctor, fal and slov will take care of you though r4ed
Theyre both very helpful
serene zodiac
I know the 4080 and 4090 max out the power with the 750 which is why I'm thinking the 3060, I already have most of these parts for free but I don't have the gpu or cooler
little osprey
Let me go do some goober work
potent portal
I wouldn't personally do a 4080 on a SFX 750W, even a high end one like that. You might be able to pull it off if you do a little power limiting.
You don't need to go as far down as a 3060, that's a severe step down. Like stepping off a 3 story building.
little osprey
@serene zodiac, need wifi, got a specific budget, and I’m assuming this is for gaming?
potent portal
He said he's already got most of it so I'm leaving the build there.
The kraken AIOs are pretty bad for the price too.
little osprey
Oh I just read that I’m stupid
Yeah ultimately something like the Liquid Freezer II or Frozen Notte would be my personal recommendation
Preferably 280mm or above
I dunno what limitations that case has
As for the GPU I’m unsure but like Fal’Cie said don’t need to drop all the way down to a 3060
Maybe 3080/3080 Ti?
serene zodiac
Yes for gaming and I think the it's a msi gaming carbon wifi
little osprey
Yes for gaming and I think the it's a msi gaming carbon wifi
Have you considered AMD?
For the GPU
serene zodiac
I see so many good reveiws and vids on the kraken
little osprey
In all honesty that was probably shill content
little osprey
It’s more it’s bad value
serene zodiac
280mm is the max for that mini case
little osprey
Yes I was looking at amd too
Good to know, I’ll go check some AIO’s RQ
serene zodiac
Because of the atx motherboard the rad can only be mounted in 2 spots
potent portal
Maybe 3080/3080 Ti?
I've seen my 3080 ti use over 450W so that's a no
vague oracle
https://www.ebay.com/itm/354980694615?
They’re great for AM4 CPUs but that’s about it
Meh for LGA1700 and AM5
potent portal
Yeah one of the meta coolers for 1700 would be the LS/LT720
little osprey
Meh for LGA1700 and AM5
Is that because of the cold plate?
little osprey
99% sure it can fit in a O11 mini
The dude said 280mm was the maximum size for radiator support
vague oracle
Unofficial supports some 360s depending on mobo
vague oracle
mossy venture
There's this but I don't know much about it https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DN38TW/thermaltake-floe-riing-rgb-280-tt-premium-edition-6319-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cl-w167-pl14sw-a
vague oracle
I’d probably get this https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Frozen-Magic-280-Specification/dp/B0BKKDC3T3
serene zodiac
K I need to do some more research. Thanks guys
viral horizon
lets go i just got my motherboard
already screwed it in my case, and put the ram and ssd on
the ssd flips up a little bit but itll be fine
weary galleon
the ssd flips up a little bit but itll be fine
Did you use the standoff and screw?
fleet heron
the ssd flips up a little bit but itll be fine
yea until it gets damaged or fall out lol
gentle pollen
short yoke
5090🤨
viral horizon
yea until it gets damaged or fall out lol
i screwed it down now its good
fleet heron
ah good good
viral horizon
yeah
the motherboard is also in the case now
i also got the ram on too
i couldve put on the cpu cooler
fleet heron
gpu?
viral horizon
6700xt
fleet heron
ah nice ]
fleet heron
cad or usd?
viral horizon
yeah
fleet heron
i payed about 410 usd for mine
viral horizon
im planning on putting the cpu cooler not on yet tho
because it would probably be better to wait for the cpu itself first
im getting a ryzen 5 7600
fleet heron
is it your first build?
viral horizon
yea
fleet heron
ah
viral horizon
can i put on the cpu cooler on before the cpu or...?
viral horizon
yeah
thought so
the case im using is a montech
i can actually show you the full build
fleet heron
dont mess with the cooler to much because of the thermal paste
viral horizon
its a budget tho so excuse some cheap parts
viral horizon
dont mess with the cooler to much because of the thermal paste
yeah dont worry the one i got came with paste
fleet heron
its a budget tho so excuse some cheap parts
ive also got the 6700 lol
viral horizon
fleet heron
yeah dont worry the one i got came with paste
most come with it
ive never seen that gpu
also nice
ive got the eagle one that also has 12gbs
viral horizon
nice
obsidian wigeon
the ram and board choice
ree
just get a620m version
cheaper, better
oh wait
nvm in my input, i didn't read enough
little osprey
@obsidian wigeon
Question for you
What is the closest NVIDIA Video card to 7800 XT?
little osprey
@primal linden Do you have a video card that is white https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LTYhgB that is 300 to 450$?
primal linden
the 6700 xt is better imo but if you want Nvidia go for it
little osprey
the 6700 xt is better imo but if you want Nvidia go for it
I can do a 6700 but I want it to be white
primal linden
nah i don’t really know any white ones
little osprey
back order
primal linden
it’s a new gpu so I don’t think it’s gonna be too long
I don’t have a direct estimate tho
little osprey
@primal linden Its like one of the best right?
primal linden
it’s good
little osprey
around its price
primal linden
there is a white asrock 7700xt but it’s 470
primal linden
primal linden
depends on the games
primal linden
nah i don’t think those games require much vram
little osprey
1 more thing
Do you have another case thats white
and is big enough to hold everything
and extra?
primal linden
what is extra
little osprey
extra space
little osprey
idk what that is
primal linden
form factor
primal linden
mid tower
little osprey
yes
primal linden
primal linden
ehh
little osprey
Just go Phanteks
primal linden
do they have it in white
little osprey
Probably
primal linden
lemme check
little osprey
@primal linden @little osprey also is my power supply too much?
primal linden
the price is good but I don’t think you really need 850
idk any good budget psu’s tho
little osprey
I should prob go cheaper
primal linden
ehh
little osprey
@primal linden can you give me the case when you got it
primal linden
little osprey
I should prob go cheaper
Wattage wise, yes
Price seems about normal for an A tier PSU
primal linden
i couldn’t find the g300a in white
primal linden
yeah i think the case comes with a fan controller
little osprey
cool cool
@primal linden If I buy all of the parts
I will be able to fully
build it
no extra parts needed
primal linden
ok
primal linden
ask somebody for opinions before buying
little osprey
@little osprey If I was to open the tempered glass for athestics
will it do harm?
better airflow?
primal linden
this is cool
little osprey
better airflow?
Like no side panel?
Just need to remove the logo and the dust catcher
little osprey
Like no side panel?
the tempered glass
primal linden
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FP3mP6/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-t...
This is also good
little osprey
I wouldn't recommend it, defeats the purpose of having a case
manic cloak
https://www.cdw.com/product/intel-wi-fi-6e-ax210-network-adapter-m.2-2230/6428539 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085M7VPDP
what's the difference
well for the type of wifi ofc
primal linden
both wifi 6
little osprey
https://www.cdw.com/product/intel-wi-fi-6e-ax210-network-adapter-m.2-2230/642853...
Probably encoding or protocol if I had to guess
primal linden
maybe
little osprey
Possibly interface
jagged ember
does the 6e have the uhh
Nope, looks like just the wifi chip
You'll need an actual wifi card unless it's a laptop
lethal tapir
You can buy the antennas
They just snap on and then run em through however
QAREQU 6dBi Wireless LAN Antenna RP-SMA MFH4 Extension Cable for M.2 NGFF WiFi Network Card https://a.co/d/cPUnjs9
obsidian wigeon
there's different types of antennas
so do be careful about that
you might end up getting antennas that doesn't fit
obsidian wigeon
anyway, the gig+ boxed kit comes with all the stuff you need
i'd just get gig+
also 6e introduces 6ghz wifi band, but that's not important
not yet anyway, since 6e routers are also expensive
and i doubt most of you guys in the us even have the speeds wifi 6 supports
let alone 6e
formal girder
6e is useful for quest air link but requires specific Intel modules
strong raft
Yea don't expect 6ghz to be strong after a couple walls also. 
potent portal
it's all standard fit
2 connectors for that same standard though, one has the male pin on the antenna and the other has the pin on the device
SMA is the name
cyan ravine
Yes
cyan ravine
Do this instead it's better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npYYHG
little osprey
Do this instead it's better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npYYHG
CPU cooler is not needed, price is $100 extra, I would rather have a 7800 XT, and Intel I5 is the same as the ryzen
And there might be compatibility issues
cyan ravine
Compatibility issues are solved with 5 minutes of bios updating
little osprey
Not taking that risk
cyan ravine
Well 850w won't help much either my guys
little osprey
Looks like a bunch of random stuff
cyan ravine
Not taking that risk
What risk?
little osprey
Well 850w won't help much either my guys
Bro yours is white and it’s hidden, and future upgrades….
cyan ravine
???
Both are perfectly competent psus
What do you expect to use in the future like a 5090 and a 14900k?
little osprey
Sorry man this is one of the first times I don’t agree with the part picker
little osprey
What do you expect to use in the future like a 5090 and a 14900k?
Looking to add a lot in the future
cyan ravine
Also for the record 7800xt is literally a 6800xt
little osprey
Also for the record 7800xt is literally a 6800xt
I prefer newer models
little osprey
?
Homie I asked for a white motherboard and I get the entire set up changed
I had like 15 people in this discord help me make it
little osprey
Correct, there is nothing else I can make white
PSU is hidden
Motherboard is the only thing really
Needed to be white
cyan ravine
I would avoid a 7700xt unless it is $400 my guy
cyan ravine
Said 470 when I looked at it 5 minutes ago
little osprey
Haven’t made the changes
cyan ravine
The msrp of a 7700xt is 450 and it just released, white always costs extra
No way is that 429
little osprey
Just the price I found it for
cyan ravine
And I'm right, it's not
little osprey
$429 mentioning discounts I have
Also it won’t really matter
You fr adding $100
To the cost
For no reason
Why need another cooler
little osprey
Sorry man am just letting you know I won’t be following your changes, there are mods that have helped me make this
cyan ravine
You ask for advice without context, I help you without said context, and now you're arguing as if I should know about said context
little osprey
You ask for advice without context, I help you *without said context*, and now y...
Am pretty sure I asked for a white motherboard
Or am I wrong?
cyan ravine
And I gave you one
cyan ravine
Lmfao
little osprey
Artic
tawny violet
Wait can you get white PCB mobos?
cyan ravine
That's as white as you'll get unless pay way too much
tawny violet
I want one too!
little osprey
That's as white as you'll get unless pay way too much
Just need to find one that is compatible
….
cyan ravine
LMFAO
gentle pollen
..... that's B360.
cyan ravine
Linked me a board from like 2018 
little osprey
So let me get this straight. Your clowning me for not taking your advice
After you changed my entire set up
cyan ravine
No, I'm clowning cos you came out the gate arguing that I gave bad advice
tawny violet
That's a Socket 1151 mobo...
little osprey
No, I'm clowning cos you came out the gate arguing that I gave *bad advice*
My advice that I needed was for a motherboard, not for a entire setup rework with a coolor that isn’t needed, a White PSU that can’t be seen, make me do EXTRA stuff for compatibility issues
cyan ravine
Bruh it's 10 minutes of work in a 2 hour assembly
gentle pollen
Man this is getting out of control you two..... Just take a breath.
tawny violet
I mean
6800XT > 7700XT
cyan ravine
💀
little osprey
I mean
6800XT > 7700XT
You may be correct, but I prefer newer models
tawny violet
It's literally free GPU performance
little osprey
Just my opinion
If you can’t take my preference, you shouldn’t be giving out advice
tawny violet
Well your opinion is meaningless when the numbers don't back it up IMO
Facts care not for feelings and opinions
gentle pollen
@little osprey, it really sounds like you already know exactly what you want. So why not just do the change you wanted?
cyan ravine
If you can’t take my preference, you shouldn’t be giving out advice
You should offer your desires first if you want to argue over advice then, just sayin
little osprey
Well your opinion is meaningless when the numbers don't back it up IMO
Your advice isn’t valid if you don’t understand preference
tawny violet
I prefer performance over looks anyway so more FPS is more better
little osprey
<@456226577798135808>, it really sounds like you already know exactly what you w...
Am just looking for a motherboard that is white, looking for advice. I know what I want except the motherboard. We got a mf that changed the entire set up???
little osprey
I prefer performance over looks anyway so more FPS is more better
I prefer to have a good design, just my preference
tawny violet
I'mma say this
If you want to buy an RX 7000 GPU
It should be the 7800XT
little osprey
Bros so triggered
Na your mad, am closing on you 💀
desert gulch
<@456226577798135808>, it really sounds like you already know exactly what you w...
Literally me when I asked about getting a new laptop and got recommended good value ones then just went to the g14 like I was planning on the whole time 💀💀💀
gentle pollen
Am just looking for a motherboard that is white, looking for advice. I know what...
#cpus-mobo-and-memory I think would've been the better channel for this.... Anyways, just lookup motherboards and pick up you like within your $ range.
tawny violet
The 7700XT is effectively created to justify upcharging the 7800XT
cyan ravine
<@456226577798135808>, it really sounds like you already know exactly what you w...
So true
little osprey
I'mma say this
If you want to buy an RX 7000 GPU
It should be the 7800XT
Do you mind changing the pc part picker so I can see the price diff and I can compare performance
tawny violet
It's
Literally right there
cyan ravine
It's like 20% better for $30
tawny violet
LMGTFY
cyan ravine
Lmao
little osprey
It's
Literally right there
You do understand there is probably different GBs in the video card and it’s performance varies….
tawny violet
Tho
6950XT > pretty much any RX 7000 GPU (unless you wanna do RT maybe?)
gentle pollen
You do understand there is probably different GBs in the video card and it’s per...
Does it need to be all white or is white and black fine?
tawny violet
You do understand there is probably different GBs in the video card and it’s per...
PFFFT
gentle pollen
Also $ range.
cyan ravine
You do understand there is probably different GBs in the video card and it’s per...
I think blackhole knows quite a lot tbh
tawny violet
Do you hear yourself?
gentle pollen
Just gonna do a quick look out of curiosity.
tawny violet
What GB can be different in modern GPUs?
little osprey
Does it need to be all white or is white and black fine?
Would prefer white, sorry to bother you
tawny violet
Please enlighten me
desert gulch
What GB can be different in modern GPUs?
Probs talking vram 💀
little osprey
What GB can be different in modern GPUs?
A 12 GB 7800 vs a 16 GB 7800 or something like that? And it’s something speed
tawny violet
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without saying it
tawny violet
A 12 GB 7800 vs a 16 GB 7800 or something like that? And it’s something speed
To date all 7800XTs have 16GB of VRAM
Nvidia tried selling a 16GB version of the 4060 but it's so dogwater it's literally slower than the standard 8GB version
little osprey
And your clowning me for not knowing? Pathetic
cyan ravine
There exists no 12gb variants lmao
gentle pollen
cyan ravine
Hahahahaha
tawny violet
Today's designs are quite locked down by AMD and Nvidia
little osprey
this is as white as it gets within $300.
Thank you for taking the time to help, do you think it would be possible to just spray paint, someone told me it would be fine?
gentle pollen
Thank you for taking the time to help, do you think it would be possible to just...
Ehhh I wouldn't risk it.
tawny violet
And your clowning me for not knowing? Pathetic
Well since you were clowning people for giving you more performance for the same money
You pretty much set the standard of knowing everything and then clowned yourself by not knowing something relatively basic
gentle pollen
One wrong move and you risk screwing up the pcie lanes.
little osprey
Well since you were clowning people for **giving you more performance for the sa...
Am pretty sure I set my standards. I never mentioned I wanted performance? And you continue to harass me about performance
tawny violet
If you're not willing to even listen to advice then don't ask for it lmfao
cyan ravine
Case in point
little osprey
2 days of painting Lmafo
gentle pollen
Would everyone just calm down?
gentle pollen
2 days of painting Lmafo
Honestly not far off.
Painting a mobo takes ages to do right.
cyan ravine
Would everyone just calm down?
I'm calm, laughing my head off rn
tawny violet
Would everyone just calm down?
Oh I am calm
You didn't see me angry here yet (probably)
I'm just disappointed
little osprey
Am chilling, just coming to ask for advice and I get my entire setup changed and told multiple times to change the part I never asked for
Yk?
gentle pollen
Anyways it's settled there are whitish and all white options within $300.
little osprey
Thank you
tawny violet
To me you all look outright mad tbh.
I'm not angry
Every second message would get automodded if I was lmfao
gentle pollen
And he clearly cares about looks > performance which I kinda relate to with the 4090 aorus.
tawny violet
I swear a LOT when I'm really angry
little osprey
And he clearly cares about looks > performance which I kinda relate to with the ...
Thank you for understanding me
Unlike some people💀
tawny violet
Okay that was really unnecessary ngl
little osprey
This Felix mf ready to burst
tawny violet
Can't help you keeping to poke people with that remark
little osprey
Okay that was really unnecessary ngl
It was necessary, never mentioned performance btw
gentle pollen
xD I guess I kinda relate more now that I think about it. I'm willing to spend nearly a grand on crystals to spruce up my pc over actual parts lmfao.
tawny violet
That's how you get arguments and fighting
cyan ravine
Bro really keeps thinking I'm mad
tawny violet
xD I guess I kinda relate more now that I think about it. I'm willing to spend ...
Is there at least a diamond among them?
little osprey
That's how you get arguments and fighting
Pretty sure I asked for a white motherboard advice and not every other part in my set up advice
tawny violet
Pretty sure I asked for a white motherboard advice and not every other part in m...
I haven't seen any truly completely white motherboards ever
The PCB is always black on them
gentle pollen
Sappires, Emeralds, Rubies, Garnets, Desert Roses, Aventurine, Lapis Lazuli, Obsidian, Quartz, Amethyst, Citine, Aquamarine, Smoky Quartz, Opal, Agates, and the list goes on.
tawny violet
So I find it somewhat ridiculous
gentle pollen
No diamonds though.
little osprey
I haven't seen any *truly completely white* motherboards ever
The PCB is always ...
That’s why am here, am asking if there is one
Buttttt
Butttt
cyan ravine
gentle pollen
I have around 35 different crystals now I think?
tawny violet
No diamonds though.
Then you're a fool simply put.
If you spend that much then you are legally obligated to have a diamond included /j
tawny violet
That’s why am here, am asking if there is one
Well that's easy
They all use black PCB so no, no completely white mobos exist other than custom painted
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyDykJ My set up / this dudes set up Do this instead it's better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npYYHG
gentle pollen
Just a clear piece of hard glass in my eyes.
Versus other crystals that have color, texture, and beauty.
little osprey
Well that's easy
They all use black PCB so no, no completely white mobos exist o...
Thank you for giving me advice on motherboards! And not continuously talking about performance!
gentle pollen
Your best bet is to buy a NZXT board if you want it to be as white as possible without custom paintjobs.
SInce the motherboard armor is white and covers up like 90% of the pcb.
little osprey
Thank you, I will probably spray paint it. Dad is a carpenter so he knows what he’s doing
gentle pollen
tawny violet
Well now that you bring it up lemme be quick and short so you are aware
12400F is like a percent or 2 faster so it depends on price
6800XT outright beats the 7700XT and you can still get it in white
PSU is whatever (you probably don't need 850 for those anyway so you can go with a 650 and save like 40 bucks)
Like the 6800XT is just better
And again, it's available in white (or at least should be)
little osprey
Well now that you bring it up lemme be quick and short so you are aware
12400F i...
- Never asked for a CPU to be changed. Never asked for a video card to be changed. I was given another cooler fan that I don’t need, I was given a 750 Watt PSU same price as a 850 Watt, NOT mentioning the PSU that was shown to me was white and is hidden, not mentioning I have extra work for compatibility issues
tawny violet
Buying previous gen used is pretty good IMOcuz you still have manufacturer warranty on it
And it's a lot cheaper
tawny violet
1. Never asked for a CPU to be changed. Never asked for a video card to be chang...
Easy solution
Just say you're dead set on the specs regardless of any possibility of being wrong
Like I can respect someone saying "this is exactly what I want regardless of whether it makes sense or not"
little osprey
Easy solution
Just say you're dead set on the specs regardless of any possibili...
Am pretty sure I told them I care about the looks more than the performance and I asked specifically for the motherboard.
But
You know
tawny violet
But then you should say it otherwise most people here will assume that you don't know what you want yet
little osprey
Lets modify the entire set up
little osprey
But then you should say it otherwise *most people here* will assume that you don...
So if someone asks for a ram stick? You proceed to change the whole setup?
tawny violet
Am pretty sure I told them I care about the looks more than the performance and ...
Can you find where you believe you said that you don't care for performance?
Just so I have context
little osprey
Am pretty sure I mentioned “White” Multiple times meaning it costs more for that color
tawny violet
Uh
tawny violet
Am pretty sure I mentioned “White” Multiple times meaning it costs more for that...
That
Doesn't mean you're not open to advice?
little osprey
That
Doesn't mean you're not open to advice?
There’s a difference between advice and doing what you want
tawny violet
Am dead set on the video card I have
Wait you already bought a 7700XT?
little osprey
No am getting my parts nailed down
tawny violet
Then
Just don't
Don't be dead set on a literally inferior part when you don't even need to spend more than 40 bucks extra for much faster
little osprey
Ok so how about this
tawny violet
Like I am saying this out of goodwill
Please don't do it
Get a used 6900XT/6950XT in white and you'll have MUCH better times
little osprey
Am asking you for advice, can you find me another video card that is BETTER and won’t go over $920 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyDykJ
Or can you provide me with a link
?
little osprey
US, CA
tawny violet
But please just get a used 6800XT/6900XT/6950XT in white
There's bound to be one that fits your budget
earnest olive
spend $20 on white cable extensions if white is this important to you lol
little osprey
spend $20 on white cable extensions if white is this important to you lol
Let me ask you something
I asked for a white motherboard
And this is what I was given
This is what we build btw https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyDykJ
Me and you
earnest olive
"white" is a strong word to describe that motherboard
little osprey
Couldn’t be more clear
earnest olive
it's got a tiny piece of white aluminum heatsink that you won't even see behind the cpu cooler
otherwise it's still mostly black
i don't see why bother
tawny violet
I mean mobos are a thing
But plz don't buy a 7700XT it's not good value and you'd get more white with a bigger card anyway
Just get a 6800/6900/6950
And profit
little osprey
it's got a tiny piece of white aluminum heatsink that you won't even see behind ...
Do you see a difference? Because I see a different video card, different cpu, a coolor that isn’t needed, a PSU that is 750 for the same price as a 850 not mentioning the PSU is hidden and a 100 increase in part costs?
tawny violet
Please for the love of God don't buy a 7700XT for 470...
little osprey
So basically just don’t listen to what I would love and do whatever you want 💀
@cyan ravine techie 💀
earnest olive
what
cyan ravine
Wassup my guy
tawny violet
Isn't that a little too far?
He already disengaged and you're just trying to reignite an argument that's long since done
earnest olive
man i have no idea what he's even saying lmao
little osprey
Isn't that a little too far?
He already disengaged and you're just trying to rei...
Am just asking for advice to see if the changes were what I was asking
cyan ravine
I'm down for more laughs
tawny violet
Like I get not getting told what you want is good isn't fun
But c'mon man do you really need to keep egging someone on?
earnest olive
white cable extensions look way better than the stock white cables
little osprey
earnest olive
is he mad at me for something
little osprey
No
earnest olive
man i'm so out of it right now i don't know
little osprey
?
cyan ravine
He's mad at me for offering a suggestion
little osprey
LOL
tawny violet
is he mad at me for something
They seem mad at everyone telling them the list they made isn't good
earnest olive
i just randomly passed out for 20 minutes
little osprey
They seem mad at everyone telling them the list they made isn't good
No?
earnest olive
probably dying
little osprey
i just randomly passed out for 20 minutes
You good?
tawny violet
Like imagine wanting a 470 dollar 7700XT 💀
little osprey
Like imagine wanting a 470 dollar 7700XT 💀
$420
tawny violet
No, it's 470
little osprey
$420
little osprey
Idk why your arguing bro
cyan ravine
little osprey
You do realize discounts exist
teal dome
<:Dorimeeeeeeeeee:801800420942282783>
Is this normal price?
tawny violet
470 before tax
Mfer that's over 500 bucks
little osprey
<:Dorimeeeeeeeeee:801800420942282783>
Prettt sure I mentioned that 3 times already. But seems like you only read what you want to read
earnest olive
man i don't know what's going on here but all i know is felix is one of the smartest people i know