building-and-recc-chat

[lone flame]

no i manually put it into sleep mode

and went and made food

[teal dome]

If you have pc just leave it on lmao 💀

[manic cloak]

That’s a big Nono

[lone flame]

...why

[potent portal]

Sleep + drivers + windows = bugs

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

Still contemplating between 7700 XT or 7800 XT

[potent portal]

If you can find a 7800 XT then get that

But good luck with that

[little osprey]

Realistically I would only be using a 6950 XT for 1440p

I see no need to spend the extra $150-$200

[little osprey]

I’m gonna wait till next month (Birthday month) and see if I have any luck then

I’m hoping the 7800 XT will be a nice pair with a 13600K

[potent portal]

Should be

[little osprey]

I wanna hit that sweet spot for higher mid range

[potent portal]

Recommendations may change if AMD does what they've done in the past and lowers the retail price shortly after launch

[little osprey]

I suppose so

I’m waiting on my DDR5 anyways, should be here Sunday

[lone flame]

I wanted to pull the trigger on a 6950xt before they go out of stock but parent said no so ill prob wait until maybe christmas or my birthday, if I stick to AMD is a 7800 or 7900 XT more worthwhile

[potent portal]

Well the higher tier stuff will obviously get better fps but as far as price/performance, that's subject to change quickly.

[lone flame]

mhm

would a 7600 bottleneck any of those cards that heavily

[potent portal]

Nah it would be fine. Anything less than a 4080/XTX would work with that cpu.

[lone flame]

cool

would a 750w psu also work

mine is pretty good i think let me get a link

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YRJp99/corsair-rm750e-2023-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

ik prob not for XTX

[potent portal]

It would work for the XTX

Current gen isn't as hungry as last gen

Or at least, not as spiky, which was the main issue

[lone flame]

do you know what tier it is

[potent portal]

A, just like every other RM model

[lone flame]

fair enough

[manic cloak]

7800xt + 13600k with a 750w is fine?

[wary tundra]

my cpu is spiking to 1.488 v for some reason and I wanted to know if that was cool. I didn't overclock it or anything and temps are reasonable

im also on a stock amd cooler

[obsidian wigeon]

it's fine

that looks like you're idling

ryzen idles at high voltages

it'll just step down when there's load

[potent portal]

Perfectly fine

[wary tundra]

nice thank you

[lone flame]

rip

such a cool card too

i have the money for it, parent wont let me pull the trigger

which is fine

i need to save my money

[mossy venture]

As long as it's A or B tier should be fine

[analog hearth]

@wary tundra don’t be shy. Turn the lights on

[wary tundra]

I love the lights off but also I don't have any on it. It's a big contrast from my main build

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-off-the-lights-bright-light-bright-donald-trump-le-bright-gif-24021357

[cyan ravine]

@wispy crest why do you have different ram sticks

💀

[hollow steeple]

Is this a good deal

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

not for a used 3080

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256210722762

Instead get this

[hollow steeple]

Is this a good deal

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah, the ebay link is cheaper

and this one is from a reputable seller

they do have many different gpus to choose from

[hollow steeple]

I know it’s alienware💀 but this is a good deal right

Nvm

Its $1100 for 32 gbs of RAM and RTX 3080 and 1tb ssd

I know it’s not that good

[fossil cedar]

6800xt is cheaper and better, new, except for ray tracing

[shell meteor]

If anyone has any ideas, I just built a pc and anytime I tried to enable XMP or update bios or windows the system shuts off then turns back on as it should. But, all I see is a black screen when it restarts. No mouse or anything. It works if I turn it off then back on to get into bios but whenever it restarts, all I see is a black screen. Any suggestions?

[lethal tapir]

Does it see the boot drive in the BIOS

[shell meteor]

Initially, yes. But if I tried to update bios from it or install windows, it just restarts and black screen

[lethal tapir]

So you try to update, it reboots, but never gets past a black screen

[shell meteor]

yep

If i manually restart it, I can get back into bios

[lethal tapir]

Mine kind of did this too

I had an nvme drive just stop working and I came to the conclusion it's either that the nvme heat sink kept shorting the drive

Or just a bad m.2 slot

Try and move your boot drive to another slot and see if that works

[shell meteor]

I'll do that. It's just a new build so it's frustrating

[lethal tapir]

Yeah man I had a tantrum the first time I put thermal paste on

Strings everywhere

[shell meteor]

That does not sound like a fun time

[lethal tapir]

I'm replacing a lga1700 bracket for a thermal plate, would electrical tape be fine to support the backplate while I unscrew the front

[little osprey]

Electrical, normal, whatever

As long as there’s no adhesive left behind

Since I’m betting you’re gonna do this with your PC unplugged

(That’s what you should do)

[lethal tapir]

Ofc

[brittle tinsel]

Can AIO water coolers spring a leak like a window unit Air conditioner? Window units also are closed loop systems but with Freon so the impact may be different than water on the tubing.

[mossy venture]

What cpu, mobo and ram do you have

[lethal tapir]

Everything I'm reading says that a leak is extremely rare, I don't think the liquid is pressurized to a high degree

The more likely scenario is the pump burns out and it breaks, throwing shrapnel down the water tube and maybe poking a hole

[little osprey]

AIO’s were designed to eliminate the issues commonly found on custom loops

All AIO’s are never filled 100% and are are airtight so no liquid/air leaves or gets in

[little osprey]

Going back to this, AIO’s lack user serviceability unfortunately

But that’s the sacrifice you make by choosing a cheaper option since custom loops are only found on the higher end of things due to their price

[mossy venture]

Ye, $1000+

Just for the water cooling parts

[little osprey]

Depending on what tubing your AIO uses that will determine how sensitive it is and what can possibly damage or cut it

[mossy venture]

Meanwhile frozen notte 360 is $70

Custom loops are pretty much never worth it unless you're very, VERY into overclocking

[little osprey]

Was gonna point that out

Custom loops only offer so many benefits and ultimately their downfalls outweigh those benefits for daily use

[mossy venture]

It's never worth custom loop unless you're already getting the best of the best, and a 7800x3d can be cooled by a $20-40 air cooler, and 4090 shrouds are all overbuilt

[royal delta]

New here and could use some help mid-build

Trying to figure out why my build won’t boot up proper

So it seems that my GPU (AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT) may be causing a complete failure.

I have 2 VGA cables from my power supply plus a pigtail from one of the cables inserted into the GPU.

When GPU is completely disconnected, everything seems to be working properly (but I have nothing to display onto monitor) once I attached the GPU without additional power outside of the motherboard, I have power supply issues (no power)

BUT when I attache 2 cables with no pigtail, everything appears to work properly for about 10yrs before dying

Would anyone know what my next step should be?

[frigid night]

What CPU/Motherboard do you have? Also, what Power Supply do you have?

[royal delta]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 MK
Power Supply: EVGA 750 GT

I’m now wondering if power supply (even though it meets the minimum requirement) may not be strong enough.

Or the motherboard is shot. Motherboard had HDMI slot but isn’t displaying anything on monitor.

[mossy venture]

The gt is a good psu, but its possible it has issues

[royal delta]

But everything seems to work without GPU.
I’m wondering if it may just be the motherboard now….

[teal dome]

@mossy venture 5600 or 12400f

[mossy venture]

Whichever + mobo is cheaper

[mossy venture]

If there's a pc you could test it in, like a family members or a friends I'd try the gpu in it

Or does the mobo have a second pcie slot?

[royal delta]

1 PCIe and no other PC I can borrow. (Everyone has laptops)

[teal dome]

which one do you think the mobo is cheaper

[mossy venture]

I forget, do you need wifi on mobo?

[teal dome]

I do got a Ethernet cable

Actually sure I need wifi

[mossy venture]

Ok one sec

[earnest olive]

you can add wifi to any mobo, so don't let wifi dictate your mobo choice too much

[teal dome]

Since I’m getting the gpu tmr I might try to build it soon

[mossy venture]

For 5600 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J7kmsL

[mossy venture]

This is also a good point

[teal dome]

Yeah

True alright no Wi-Fi then

I’m getting the 6700xt for 200

[primal linden]

nice

[earnest olive]

like you shouldn't pay a premium of more than $10 for wifi 5 or more than $20 for wifi 6

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9WTQY9

[teal dome]

Alright thanks

[earnest olive]

200 for a 6700xt is pretty sweet

[teal dome]

Yeah I found a good deal and imma buy it tmr

[primal linden]

it’s sugary

[teal dome]

And idk what to do, should I wait for Black Friday and cyber Monday or build it in the next month

[earnest olive]

in theory your 750 GT is extremely overkill for that system

possible it could be a defective unit

but it's not because it's underspec

[earnest olive]

your cpu has no integrated graphics, so the motherboard hdmi will never work

[royal delta]

Tracking that now

[teal dome]

Isn’t the amd one cheaper, I don’t need the Wi-Fi adapter now anyways since I have an Ethernet cable

[earnest olive]

also it's not supposed to work without external power to the gpu

so that's not really relevant

[mossy venture]

The amd one also has wifi

[earnest olive]

you said it works for 10 years, did you mean 10 hours...?

[primal linden]

true

[teal dome]

Do it without Wi-Fi and I’m pretty sure 5600 is better for budget

[mossy venture]

That b550 would be fine for a 5800x3d, that b660 would be fine for a 13600k

[primal linden]

amd mobo’s are cheap either way so buying it without wifi would be good

if you have Ethernet atleast

[teal dome]

I9 13600k?

[royal delta]

Meant seconds but iPhones like to make me look stupid

[mossy venture]

Imo not any boards without wifi worth it, as most are a520s with far worse vrms

[earnest olive]

12400f is the superior cpu over the 5600, but at least for gaming the difference won't be too relevant

[teal dome]

Yeah I have a cable it works so I’m chilling

[mossy venture]

i5-13600k

[teal dome]

Ah ok

[earnest olive]

lmao how did your phone manage to autocorrect seconds to yrs

[mossy venture]

Yeah, there is a difference just not a huge one

[teal dome]

Why is it superior

[earnest olive]

i mean

[mossy venture]

Like 5% or so?

[earnest olive]

same core count but each core is stronger

[royal delta]

🤷‍♂️ iPhone surprises me often

[teal dome]

Yeah o think so

[earnest olive]

it's more than 5%

[mossy venture]

Even on d4?

[earnest olive]

not that much more than 5% though

[mossy venture]

Ah

[earnest olive]

more like 7-8%

[teal dome]

Also yeah bacca I change my mind I might try to build the pc as soon as possible so make me a build that’s super budget with 16gb ram and with a monitor

[earnest olive]

it's like.. with the gpus you are going to pair either cpu with, you'll be gpu bottlenecked either way

[primal linden]

what is super budget

[mossy venture]

Maybe this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TG9tt6/asrock-b550m-phantom-gaming-4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-phantom-gaming-4

[earnest olive]

well my android phone once tried to correct "what's" to "28th" so neither side is free from jank

[mossy venture]

Ok one second

[royal delta]

This is mine I believe

[teal dome]

Like which is really cheap I meant but decent performance

[earnest olive]

so what do you mean by "dies"? like does it just shut off?

[teal dome]

Does the 6700xt bottleneck those cpus

[earnest olive]

does it make any sort of abnormal sound like a loud click?

[royal delta]

Yes

[earnest olive]

the 6700xt will be the limiting factor yes

[royal delta]

No audible noises at all

[primal linden]

what no way

[earnest olive]

ok so it's not a short at least

[teal dome]

Why is that? Should I downgrade my cpu for lesser cost?

[earnest olive]

are you ever able to get into bios?

[earnest olive]

no, you want to be gpu bottlenecked

being cpu bottlenecked is miserable

[teal dome]

Alright

[mossy venture]

Which would you rather, a good 750w psu that you can reuse in the future or a cheap 600w that'd be fine with a 6700xt but is less likely for you to be able to reuse

[earnest olive]

you still get consistent frames with a gpu bottleneck (assuming the limit is just rendering power and not out of vram)

[mossy venture]

$19 difference

[royal delta]

That’s promising

[earnest olive]

with a cpu bottleneck you will get inconsistent frames and stutters and input lag and all that

[primal linden]

no way

[teal dome]

A cheap one is fine I might as well make a whole new system when I’m older because I’ll get a better job and allat anyways

[teal dome]

Alright

[earnest olive]

i'm not sure what saying "no way" repeatedly adds to this conversation

this is all common well documented knowledge

[primal linden]

my bad

[teal dome]

He’s probably being sarcastic

[earnest olive]

i dailied an i3-12100 + 3090 for quite some time lol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tnZ8MV

Can add more ram down the line, could also go cheaper on case

[earnest olive]

good system

[mossy venture]

Imo I'd just buy 32gb for $50 right now but if you want it as cheap as possible

[primal linden]

is cpu bottleneck slightly bad

or worse

[teal dome]

Aight

[earnest olive]

obviously depends on the degree of the bottleneck

[primal linden]

true

[teal dome]

Thank you

[earnest olive]

you can still play games with a slight cpu bottleneck

games were playable on my i3-12100 + 3090

[primal linden]

ok say like a 12400f and a 4080

[teal dome]

💀

[earnest olive]

now pair that 3090 with an fx 8350 you won't have such a good time

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-hello-chat-gif-15702064948618184850

[teal dome]

Not too bad I think

[earnest olive]

12400f probably won't even bottleneck a 4080 at 4k in a lot of games lol

1440p maybe some? but not too bad

[mossy venture]

Lowkey, bclk oc with ddr5 ram at 4k it'd likely be fine

[primal linden]

ok

[earnest olive]

i don't think we should consider bclk oc as a relevant factor for the 12400f

[teal dome]

Tbh I would like a smaller case if you can add it and also a monitor

[mossy venture]

I think its $130 for z690 pg riptide rn

[mossy venture]

Ok one sec and yeah forgot monitor, sorry

[teal dome]

It’s alright thanks for always helping tho

[primal linden]

nah wrd

[earnest olive]

is that a bclk oc board?

[primal linden]

bacca even helping on birthday

[teal dome]

Fr

[primal linden]

super dedication

[earnest olive]

not every Z series board allows bclk oc

[teal dome]

Best pc builder ong

[earnest olive]

actually almost all of them don't

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFccqR I'll link monitor in a sec

[mossy venture]

I think the pg riptide does have it but I could be wrong

[earnest olive]

oh interesting, b760m pg riptide has external clock gen

man i love asrock

[mossy venture]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824026341

[teal dome]

Also when I do decide to go for this build y’all should tell me the basics and how to build it and all that

[mossy venture]

Yeah, ddr5 too

[earnest olive]

asrock ❤️

[primal linden]

LG doin good rn

mega value

[mossy venture]

The z690 is ddr4 though so I think it's more worth going ddr5 if caring about bclk lol

[lone flame]

asrock L

[teal dome]

It’s not loading 🥲

[teal dome]

Asrock is nice for budget

[lone flame]

The 6700 XT I got from them has been nothing but issues

When it does work fine it’s good tho

[earnest olive]

sounds like a defective unit

[lone flame]

No complaints there

[earnest olive]

RMA it

[lone flame]

I tried

[earnest olive]

asrock is considered one of the better radeon partners lol

[lone flame]

I never got an email back

[earnest olive]

check your spam

[lone flame]

That was like the start of august I did

I emailed them twice

[earnest olive]

average time for asrock to reply to me has been 18 minutes

dunno what to tell you

[lone flame]

Yeah mine has been never

[earnest olive]

did you email them or did you use the rma form

[lone flame]

Both I think

[earnest olive]

does it say anything on your rma portal

[lone flame]

I would have to look again but probably not

[teal dome]

[lone flame]

Are they more likely to answer on the portal or email

[earnest olive]

i mean i just did an asrock rma like 2 weeks ago

and they never emailed me iirc

but they updated the portal

[lone flame]

I guess I’ll have to try the portal

They won’t find anything wrong with it

I know that

It hasn’t happened for awhile luckily

[earnest olive]

i mean have you even isolated the issue to the gpu

[lone flame]

The GPU was like disconnecting cause of driver issues

[lone flame]

Idk what else it would be

[earnest olive]

gpu driver crashes can be a manifestation of other issues

have you ever run a memory stability test

probably like half the complaints about 5700xt driver issues were from people running unstable corsair xmp lol

[lone flame]

When I was originally trying to get help for it that never came up no

[earnest olive]

what's your ram kit

are you using xmp/expo or whatever

try running it at default and doing a clean reinstall of your drivers

see if the problems persist

also, make sure you're not daisy chaining your gpu power cable

[lone flame]

They haven’t in almost 3+ weeks thankfully

[lone flame]

I am not

[earnest olive]

then yeah i would check your ram

you can run a stability test with xmp/expo or just try default settings

[royal delta]

Pins on my cpu are bent…. Fml

[teal dome]

Bruh

Ok I guess you’re buying a new cpu

[manic cloak]

7800xt or 6950xt?

[teal dome]

6950xt I’m pretty sure

Cuz like I watched Linus video and 7800xt is almost similar to 6800xt which is previous gen

[mossy venture]

6950xt

[limber oyster]

Welp, I definitely need a new video card now...mine just had a meltdown

Pulled these out of it

[teal dome]

No more 3080

[limber oyster]

Nope

[strong raft]

That's mostly why I wouldn't run those.

[limber oyster]

Now to price new card and waterblock

Well now EVERYONE knows not to

[mossy venture]

Wtf are those white connectors

[limber oyster]

They're adapters

[mossy venture]

Oh god

[strong raft]

Did the reverse oreo look.

[primal linden]

how do you get windows free on a new pc

[potent portal]

You install it normally and tell it you'll input a license later. Then you just never give it a license so you're in perpetual trial mode.

[primal linden]

ok

can I use windows install media tool for it

on a usb

[potent portal]

You may get a watermark and warning when you boot up that it's not a valid copy, but it's a full version. You just can't use the "presonalization" menu

[primal linden]

ok

[potent portal]

Yeah you use the normal installer tools

[primal linden]

thank you

[limber oyster]

DO NOT BUY THESE

[mossy venture]

Bruh

[limber oyster]

I found out the hard way

[wary tundra]

Ezdiy

[lyric thistle]

We only go hardiy in this club

[obsidian wigeon]

that looks a lot like something that is very safe indeed

[cyan ravine]

I wouldn't recommend those from any brand. They break too often with issues, not even cablemod could pull it off without problems on theirs

[obsidian wigeon]

^

chaining up power plugs is always a big nono

heat adds exponentially and stuff

[cyan ravine]

Extensions are fine

It's the power through such a tiny pcb that is very concerning lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

ofc this kind of extension is scary

but if it's an extension cable, all is fine as long as the design is safe

[limber oyster]

Proud to say that GPU is fine. Played Starfield for an hour

1440p max settings

[wary tundra]

I found a person 4 hours away selling a evga dg87 case for 100

Im going to go feral

[limber oyster]

Thought it was a fridge

[lyric thistle]

looks like a space heater

oh wait

[wary tundra]

[little osprey]

I have the B650E Tiachi and i have a quick question am i able to plug in 3 fans the Noctua NF-12x25 to 1 header? The manual does not state if the header is 1 amp each

[cyan ravine]

yes

those fans should draw less than .25a per fan

headers are typically 1A but some can go higher

if you're super worried get a fan hub

[flint sapphire]

speaker guy is back

[little osprey]

.14 to be exact

[cyan ravine]

it should be fine

[little osprey]

Thanks

[little osprey]

Another quick question will this ram work fine with the B650E Tiachi on EXPO Settings

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBRJ63RT?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[cyan ravine]

don't get those, get these instead.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1TKSDKR?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

same sticks, same performance, 20% cheaper

but better quality

have you bought this taichi yet?

or the noctuas for that matter

[little osprey]

Taichi was free in contest with 7900x

[little osprey]

How is that seller though it's not shipped by amazon

[cyan ravine]

pretty good.

[little osprey]

Lol

It ships from amazon facility so I guess I'm safe

[cyan ravine]

if you haven't bought the noctuas, get the thermalright b12's. exact same fans just 60% cheaper and with a thermalright badge not a noctua one

they're both nidec gentle typhoons

down to a T

[cyan ravine]

I mean, iirc it's G.skills official storefront so I would say it's pretty legit

[little osprey]

Wait what is there official store front

[cyan ravine]

racerspeed on amazon

[little osprey]

Really didn't know that

[cyan ravine]

I've been told before by several people it's g.skills official amazon store

if you look up the business it leads to a california facility, probably an affiliated agent for them? either way it should be plenty trustworthy

[little osprey]

Thanks

[cyan ravine]

all good

one sec I'll show you the fans I'm talking about

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-TL-B12-Computer-Static-Pressure-Performance/dp/B0BNGZJVF5/

$10 versus what, $35 for the exact same fan in brown from Noctua? would be a no brainer to pick these imo

they even have noctua colours

[little osprey]

Ordered the fans. The corsair ram i linked i can get for 45 bucks due to rebat and some left over store credit will i have any problems running it on my motherboard or should i still go with gskill

[cyan ravine]

$45 isn't bad

I was more saying it because of the price is all

it should run

as long as you're getting good deals that's all that matters

[little osprey]

yeah i just worry that when i set it to expo it will freeze and crash and stuff

because its not on QVL

[cyan ravine]

unlikely

QVL is a meme

ddr5 has 4 different die types right now

i.e ram only ships with 4 different types of chips

Hynix A or M
Samsung B
Micron A

the odds of getting something that simply won't run on ddr5 is extremely low

[little osprey]

which is the best for AMD 7900x (Again free from contest with motherboard)

[cyan ravine]

the $45 kit you said you'd get would be good

it's hynix so should be very easy to run

[little osprey]

i wish i can get a 64gb kit but they only run at 5600mhz 😦

[mossy venture]

64gb isn't worth it if you're gaming

[cyan ravine]

I only suggested the g.skill cos it's cheaper for the same

[mossy venture]

It's actually counter productive

[little osprey]

Corsair uses hynix in that ram?

[mossy venture]

In a lot of scenarios

[cyan ravine]

I mean, vs 32 at $45? nah

[cyan ravine]

ye

[little osprey]

oh didnt know that

how can you find that stuff out for futher rerference ?

[cyan ravine]

it's quite easy

[mossy venture]

What felix is about to say

[cyan ravine]

anything 6000+, CL32 or lower is guaranteed hynix

[mossy venture]

Thought it was 5600+?

[cyan ravine]

anything 5600+ CL32 or lower is a high chance of hynix

[mossy venture]

Ah

[little osprey]

beat you to it haha

[cyan ravine]

I normally only recommend kits I'm pretty sure about have hynux

since by history hynix has been the best by far

so you get a good kit that will have some legs in it for when you upgrade later

[little osprey]

so those corsair ram sticks i am fine with and everything

[cyan ravine]

means you don't necessarily need to buy a new kit, you could overclock the one you'd have up to speed, just for example

ye

[little osprey]

Thanks so much for your help

[cyan ravine]

as long as it's $45

lol

[little osprey]

Yes

I am doing a Tiachi Build 7900x 7900XTX Tiachi and B650E Tiachi

[cyan ravine]

I feel like I remember this from a while ago

[little osprey]

Heard the B650E Tiachi is pretty dam close to the X670E Tiachi

[cyan ravine]

yes

for a gaming build you wouldn't need anything over an a620 really tbh

[little osprey]

I just need to figure out a monitor i want to get lol

really want a ultrawide

[cyan ravine]

just as long as the motherboard is built well enough and a taichi is

[cyan ravine]

for XTX? 1440p 240hz minimum

or 4K

especially with a 7900x

I'd dare say 4K would be better

[little osprey]

so stay away from the ultrawide

[cyan ravine]

ultrawide works too

just giving general advice is all

[fossil cedar]

1440p ultawide is roughly as intense as 4k

Bit less

[cyan ravine]

no

it's less

ye

[fossil cedar]

But in the ballpark

Hence the roughly

[cyan ravine]

it's more like

right down the middle

but I mean it depends on what UW we're talking about

[fossil cedar]

Oh right yeah yeah

I thought it was closer i underestimated 4k res

Woops

Basically 5 mil pixels vs 8 mil woops

[cyan ravine]

lol all good

[fossil cedar]

For reference 1440p non uw is 3.5mil

[cyan ravine]

I mean a G9 would run nearer 4K or above

that be the ultra ultra wide doe

I'll bbl have fun guys

👋

[little osprey]

any recommendations on a ultrawide or even a 4k

500 max

[fossil cedar]

That's big boi uw ye

[little osprey]

well 600 max

[fossil cedar]

You'll Brazilian butt lift? Sus

[little osprey]

lmfa

[fossil cedar]

You're in the US right?

Also do you want a curved or is flat okay?

[little osprey]

either one is ok

sorry was busy making a DCS world map

and US

[fossil cedar]

I'd get this for 1440p uw
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ny3gXL/gigabyte-m34wq-340-3440-x-1440-144-hz-monitor-m34wq-sa
Honestly this is the cheapest I'd go for 4k, unfortunately their pricing kinda sucks still, still good very good tho
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WchFf7/gigabyte-m32uc-315-3840-x-2160-160-hz-curved-monitor-m32uc-sa

2nd is curved so there is that too

Personally if i was forking out for a 4k monitor I'd consider this even tho it's 680, which is ouch, the upgrade to flat and ips might not be worth it for you tho
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Fm7G3C/gigabyte-m32u-315-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-m32u

[little osprey]

Thanks. With that USB hub for the KVM i can use it as a hub? Do i need to install gigabyte stupid software

[fossil cedar]

Nope so kvm is a regular usb hub but you can connect 2 pc/laptop at once and share whatever is plugged in between the 2 with a toggle switch to go between i believe

[little osprey]

personally like the ultrawide better

also love that gigabyte line its just sleek no RGB and professonal

[teal dome]

5600, 5600x, 5600g or 12400f

For the cpu

[cyan ravine]

5600 or 12400f

[teal dome]

Alright

Cuz like they are all on sale

[cyan ravine]

whichever works out cheaper with the motherboard

[teal dome]

What motherboard are good?

[cyan ravine]

haven-

[teal dome]

I’m so illiterate on motherboards cuz there are so many

[cyan ravine]

haven't you already got a list or 2?

[teal dome]

I do I do

But like idk

[cyan ravine]

I would trust the guys like Bacca or Pato to give you good motherboard recommendations

[lyric thistle]

is ez

[teal dome]

Alright

[lyric thistle]

see motherboard, is literate

simple

[teal dome]

For 5600 the motherboard is 85

Idk about intel

[cyan ravine]

that sounds like prime b450m-a ii

which is fine with a 5600

or you'd go tuf gaming a520m wifi ii

for 99

[teal dome]

What about for intel

Isn’t the 12400f better?

[cyan ravine]

I don't normally recommend 12400f anymore

eh, kinda

[teal dome]

Why not

They are about the same price

[cyan ravine]

but not for like, more than 10-20$

well yeah

but the motherboard matters too

[teal dome]

True true

[cyan ravine]

motherboard and cpu, the prices go together

so a 12400f would need a good board for like, $100 as well for me to say it's plain better

[teal dome]

Hmm, so you suggest 5600 because almost same performance and cheaper motherboard?

[cyan ravine]

ye

[teal dome]

Aight thanks

[cyan ravine]

why pay like, 15% more for maybe 5% more performance yaknow?

[teal dome]

This is what bacca reccomended

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sFccqR I'll link monitor in a sec

You think any changes?

[cyan ravine]

if you can afford the extra $15, an upgrade to 32gb of ram is well worth it

and/or if you need the wifi for $15 more on top as well

but otherwise yea list is not bad at all

[teal dome]

I mean I don’t need WiFi for now, if I do I’ll get it after

[teal dome]

I’m thinking about it but I don’t think I need 32 gigs but I’ll see

[teal dome]

Alright I’ll see

What about the case

[cyan ravine]

it's more like, if you want to do a fair bit of multi-tasking you would want 32gb

[teal dome]

Hmm alright I’ll see

[cyan ravine]

case is quite good I recommend it

it's a box, has mesh front, and lots of fans

cheap

sold

[teal dome]

Do you think I need more fans or naw?

I don’t think you need an aio for a 5600 right

[cyan ravine]

nah you're good

[teal dome]

Alright

[mossy venture]

Aio on a 5600 is like putting premium gas in a Kia soul

[teal dome]

Lmao

So just a normal air cooler is good?

[cyan ravine]

the stock cooler is good

like fr

[mossy venture]

Stock cooler is fine

[cyan ravine]

unless you want dead silence then a cheap $20 tower will do that

[mossy venture]

If you want to, $17-20 for a single tower cooler that'll be quieter and possibly look nicer

[teal dome]

I want rgb

[mossy venture]

Or if for whatever reason you want to, $30-35 for a dual tower cooler that performs similar to 240mm aio

[teal dome]

I might get rgb ram

[cyan ravine]

rgb exists on those $20 options

[mossy venture]

If you like the aesthetic of an aio, 240mm frozen notte is cheap and nice

And what felix said

[teal dome]

And paint my cooler white

[cyan ravine]

they come in white

[teal dome]

Maybe my gpu fans as well

[cyan ravine]

[teal dome]

I meant stock cooler

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zr8bt6/id-cooling-se-214-xt-682-cfm-cpu-cooler-se-214-xt-argb

[cyan ravine]

ah

that uh

might be a bit of a task tbh

[teal dome]

Yeah I might not do it

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zP88TW/thermalright-frozen-notte-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-notte-240-black-argb

[teal dome]

I love my aesthetics tho

I might just go stock

And upgrade on the way

[cyan ravine]

how much are you willing to spend cos I could make something

[teal dome]

Make something for what?

[cyan ravine]

I could make a new list with rgb and white

for a bit more spent

[teal dome]

450

Final

[cyan ravine]

ooo that's tight, I'll try

[teal dome]

My parents might get mad for 400

I gotta sell my switch for that and I still haven’t sold

Someone should buy Fr

[mossy venture]

Cheapest rgb kit worth it
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YYgFf7/neo-forza-mars-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-nmgd480e82-3200df20

[teal dome]

Ok

I gtg

Ping me when y’all make list

If y’all do

@cyan ravine I have a 6700xt gpu btw

[cyan ravine]

the gpu I can't really help with

unless you want to spend big bucks to make white

[teal dome]

Imma leave the gpu like that black and white looks alright anyways

[cyan ravine]

barely fits
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rbq3t7

[mossy venture]

Pretty much the same thing I came up with

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hN3tpB

[teal dome]

Yeah

Just a different ram

[mossy venture]

32gb is def worth going for, but if you really want to save the money

[cyan ravine]

these are nicer tho imo if you weren't strict
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s8vqqs/patriot-viper-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-pvr432g320c6k

[teal dome]

I’ll check

I’m thinking about it

[cyan ravine]

$6 for rgb

vs 48 for sp gaming

[teal dome]

I might go the neo forza and upgrade later

[mossy venture]

Also the black cables might look a bit off in a white build, but the cheapest good white psu is $85

[cyan ravine]

yeah you could get white extensions later

[teal dome]

I could prob bet white extensions

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

asiahorse, ezdiy fab

[teal dome]

They are not too expensive

[cyan ravine]

cablemod etc

[teal dome]

Yeah yeah

[cyan ravine]

antec I hear are good too

[teal dome]

Thanks for the list guys

[cyan ravine]

np

[teal dome]

Imma go now

Have a good day

[cyan ravine]

cya

[storm arrow]

Fastest ddr5 ram

And does it matter what ram goes with motherboard

[hollow steeple]

Is a Ryzen 7 5700x and rx 6600 a good combo

[lyric thistle]

sure

could change it up depending on what you expect out of it

[hollow steeple]

Is mw2 gpu or cpu based

[lyric thistle]

computer

[hollow steeple]

Both?

[storm arrow]

Ide say gpu

Your saying moder warfare 2?

[lyric thistle]

if the game runs on a console I imagine it's an easy answer of gpu bias

[hollow steeple]

Bottle neck calculator says a Ryzen 5 5600g is too weak for an RX 6600

[cyan ravine]

For cod go 5600 and rx 7600/6700

Instead

Similar price result

[hollow steeple]

I have the 6600 already

[cyan ravine]

Tho if you told me your budget I could maybe do better

Oh then just go 5600

Get like a tuf a520m wifi ii or prime b450m-a ii

[hollow steeple]

I already have a pc

With b450m

[cyan ravine]

Oh

Then just do 5600

Update bios then pop it in

[storm arrow]

Who makes the fastest ddr5 Ram

[cyan ravine]

Hynix

[storm arrow]

And does the motherboard matter

[cyan ravine]

Depends what you're doing

It always matters

[storm arrow]

Gaming

Going with the msi b650 tomahawk

[cyan ravine]

That's expensive for no benefit

Go with a $125 motherboard

[storm arrow]

Don't have budget

[cyan ravine]

Doesn't mean you need to overspend lol

[storm arrow]

I was just going off pc builder videos lol

[cyan ravine]

The basic am5 stuff is as sufficient as the high end and mid range. There's no performance gain

[cyan ravine]

It's ok. They don't write a manual for this stuff

If you want a no budget am5 build I'll make you one that does it all without overspending

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/uncharted-movie-title-typography-film-title-drakes-uncharted-gif-23765600

[cyan ravine]

Ye

Cos marketing is strong in this segment

You get stuff like

"the best gaming is on i9"

[storm arrow]

So far I ordered the 4090 gpu
And the 7850x3d cpu

[cyan ravine]

Or like "gen 4 is the best for gaming"

7800x3d ye?

[lyric thistle]

usb 3.0 is the best for gaming

[storm arrow]

Yeah my mistake I've been typing 7950 for the past month lol

[cyan ravine]

All good

Yeah you don't need any extreme mobo for that

7800x3d is an 88w max cpu

It can run on the most basic stuff

On a stock cooler too

My suggestion would be either gigabyte a620m gaming x, or asrock a620m pro rs wifi

$99 or $124.99 respectively

In other countries those should still be cheap

[storm arrow]

I was going for the b650 for the audio inputs and faster usb

[cyan ravine]

Mmmm

If you want good audio

Get a dac

[jagged ember]

just get an audio interface yeah

[earnest olive]

apple usb-c dac is $9 and blows any onboard mobo audio out of the water

[jagged ember]

mobo audio these days doesn't really make much difference

[cyan ravine]

Yeah mobo codecs aren't great

Even the super high end are kinda mid

[jagged ember]

so just get it for the usb only

[earnest olive]

i upgraded from the highest end onboard audio solution to a $9 apple dac and the difference was immense lol

[storm arrow]

Okay you're teaching me something

[cyan ravine]

Yeah if you need USB it's understandable but audio nah, invest in a nice interface

[storm arrow]

What exactly is that

[lyric thistle]

what's this apple usbc dac

[jagged ember]

Schiit Magni and Modi stack

boom

[earnest olive]

now i have a proper $150 desktop dac/amp unit and it's even more of a night and day difference

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MU7E2AM/A/usb-c-to-35-mm-headphone-jack-adapter

can also find on amazon

[cyan ravine]

@storm arrow it's this

[lyric thistle]

why can't it be usb a 😔

[jagged ember]

or this

[earnest olive]

if you care enough about audio to know what an audio solution is but don't care enough to spend a lot of money on it, then this is what you want to get

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-USB-C-Headphone-Jack-Adapter/dp/B07K25P3N1

[jagged ember]

if it's fancy and you know what you're looking for

[cyan ravine]

Quite literally a cable does a better job than like 90% of all audio devices for sound quality to a headset

Unironically apple's best product is a $9 cable

[earnest olive]

for once apple makes something with insane price/performance lol

[hollow steeple]

How much fps should I get in Warzone two with an RX 6600 and Ryzen three 5300 G

[earnest olive]

google exists

[cyan ravine]

5300g is not really the best idea if you're already on am5, go 5600 if you want a new cpu

[earnest olive]

it's not like we can google it any better than you can

but yes i would not recommend the 5300g

it's not even cheap or anything

they sell for more than used 5600 does

[jagged ember]

what

[earnest olive]

and any 5300g you're getting is a used OEM pull with no warranty anyways

so don't say you don't want used lol

[storm arrow]

The videos I've personally watched says go with Samsung 990 ssd would you say otherwise?0

[cyan ravine]

Definitely against a 990

[earnest olive]

i would avoid samsung 980 pro and 990 pro

[lyric thistle]

it gonna work via c to a dongle or

[cyan ravine]

There's a tons of ssd's that outclass a 990

[earnest olive]

chance you get old stock that still has the self cannibalism firmware bug

and yeah

[cyan ravine]

In both price/performance and performance in general

[mossy lion]

Help MSI MAG Core Liquid 240R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 240mm Radiator, Dual PWM, ARGB Lighting Controlled by Software LGA 1700 Ready / AM5 Compatible

[cyan ravine]

Also this

[earnest olive]

if you want a premium nvme just get a solidigm p44 pro honestly

[cyan ravine]

What do you want to know

[lyric thistle]

but what if I want dram 😠

[earnest olive]

cheaper than the 990 pro, not any worse, and doesn't have a chance of having a nasty firmware bug where it kills itself in a week

[cyan ravine]

Or really for gaming

Just get a 670p 2tb

[earnest olive]

... it does have dram lol

[lyric thistle]

o it do?

[earnest olive]

the p41 plus is hmb

the p44 pro has dram

[lyric thistle]

right

[cyan ravine]

Faster ssd's for gaming do basically nothing

[mossy lion]

I bought this MSI MAG Core Liquid 240R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 240mm Radiator, Dual PWM, ARGB Lighting Controlled by Software LGA 1700 Ready / AM5 Compatible and this motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming AMD AM4 Zen 3 Ryzen 5000 & 3rd Gen Ryzen ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0, 2.5Gb LAN, BIOS Flashback, HDMI 2.1, Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header and Aura Sync) do the brackets work for this?

[storm arrow]

Okay thats great to know

[earnest olive]

1GB LPDDR4 per 1TB capacity

[jagged ember]

despite what one individual may tell you, faster ssds do nothing for gaming yes

[cyan ravine]

Look up intel 670p, or silicon power a60, or teamgroup mp33

Depending on your region, those are often quite cheap

You also have silicon power ud90

Some mp33 clones

[mossy lion]

I bought this MSI MAG Core Liquid 240R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 240mm Radiator, Dual PWM, ARGB Lighting Controlled by Software LGA 1700 Ready / AM5 Compatible and this motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming AMD AM4 Zen 3 Ryzen 5000 & 3rd Gen Ryzen ATX Gaming Motherboard (PCIe 4.0, 2.5Gb LAN, BIOS Flashback, HDMI 2.1, Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header and Aura Sync) do the brackets work for this?

[lyric thistle]

I only game with the fastest of sd cards

[cyan ravine]

Give me a moment I'm helping 2 other people

[cyan ravine]

Yes, also when did you buy these things

[storm arrow]

So many options lol so if you had to pick one today what you getting

[cyan ravine]

The cheapest of the suggestions imo

[storm arrow]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

Honestly gaming on a sata ssd is no different than gaming on a gen 4 99% of the time even with directstorage involved rn

What ssd's make the difference in is windows

[mossy lion]

The motherboard recently and the cooler since July. So the brackets should fit then?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

If the mobo was in the last week I'd return it. Those are hilariously expensive for no benefit

You can get the same results out of a tuf a520m if you don't do any overclocking

That's my only reason why I ask

It might save you a few dollars

[mossy lion]

Ok just wanted to make sure because I was trying to use the amd brackets that comes with it and it didn't seem to fit in the holes of the motherboard

[mossy lion]

Thank you I appreciate I am new to building a pc 😁

[cyan ravine]

All good my guy

I say it a lot, they don't write a manual for this stuff

People get snagged by marketing and misconceptions all the time

It's not the one buying it at fault

[storm arrow]

Can you send a link on the ddr5

Or the name of it

Or should I say model number

[cyan ravine]

For 7800x3d?

[storm arrow]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

It should be g.skill flare x5 32gb 6000 c30

The code would be like, uhhh

Give me a minute

[storm arrow]

No that's fine

[cyan ravine]

F5-6000C30-
Something something

LOL

Wth I forgot g.skills name codes

Hold on

[storm arrow]

No you're okay I can type that in lol

[cyan ravine]

This is probably it

f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5

It should be $95 on amazon

OR

[storm arrow]

And you said I don't need a aio for that cpu

[cyan ravine]

If you want rgb

Yes you don't

An aio is like

Overkill to overkill

The horse is dead now you're mincing it

[storm arrow]

Basically at this point for looks

[cyan ravine]

Mmmmm is it worth the 40-70 extra tho??

That cpu literally runs on the stock cooler

The basic amd wraith box cooler

I'd send a vid but it's a bit of a highbrow demo, would be a bit difficult to understand

[storm arrow]

Right okay for the 4090 I was going with the msi suprim

[cyan ravine]

Suprim is ok

As a 4090 suprim owner

[teal dome]

I got the 6700xt 🎉🎉🎉

[cyan ravine]

Would I recommend suprim? No

[teal dome]

Now imma build the rest

[cyan ravine]

It's great, it's fast, good quality

[mossy venture]

W

[cyan ravine]

Is it worth the extra over a basic 4090? Nah

[teal dome]

It looks good the pins are also good, no other damages

[cyan ravine]

You buy a suprim for overclocking

But if you aren't serious about overclocking, a suprim offers nothing

[teal dome]

I can’t wait to build a pc

[primal linden]

W

[teal dome]

I might order tmr or on Monday or some

[storm arrow]

Over clocking is crazy to understand lol

[mossy venture]

Eh, depends on the type of overclocking

[storm arrow]

Can't you overclock each component

[mossy venture]

Gpu overclocking is pretty simple

[cyan ravine]

You can ye

[mossy venture]

Cpu and ram tuning are more complex, ram tuning would be the most annoying

[cyan ravine]

But if you don't understand it then I wouldn't bother going out of your way for it

[vague oracle]

SSD oc >>>

[cyan ravine]

Ram overclocking would be the biggest benefit in the supposed build

[mossy venture]

Cpu ocing is the most "pointless" for most people nowadays

Mem tuning especially on ddr5 really helps especially in 1% lows but it's very tedious

Gpu ocing can make a very big difference too and wouldn't be that hard, bit time consuming but pretty simple

[cyan ravine]

Cpu oc on ryzen 3d is for the select few, otherwise locked

[storm arrow]

So basically for gaming nothing has to be overclocked nor liquid cooled

[mossy venture]

There's guides I believe pinned in #overclocking

[cyan ravine]

Oc'ing a 4090 gets very little gain

[mossy venture]

Ah didn't realize 4090

[cyan ravine]

But oc'ing even ddr5 you get some decent push

It's extremely complicated tho

Not for the first timer

[mossy venture]

^^

I still haven't touched my Rev e

I'm a disappointment I know

[cyan ravine]

Eh no

[vague oracle]

Honestly just setting tRRDS/L/tFAW will get you most performance boost for very little effort

[cyan ravine]

I become disappointed when you spent a buttload for good ram but then don't overclock with it

[vague oracle]

Other than boosting frequency

[mossy venture]

That's fair

[cyan ravine]

If you just have good ram then meh whatever

[mossy venture]

When I got mine it was $10 cheaper than a silicon power same specced kit

[cyan ravine]

There you go

That's great

Im proud of u

[mossy venture]

$94 after tax for a 32gb kit

[cyan ravine]

Damn that was a while ago wasn't it

💀

[mossy venture]

Yeah that was...

One sec I'm actually curious now

I think late 2021 but I could be wrong mightve been 2022

[cyan ravine]

That would've been like, mid last year

[mossy venture]

I'm checking amazon

[cyan ravine]

Or early yeah

[mossy venture]

Wait nvm that was on my parents amazon account

[cyan ravine]

For your supposed specs yeah. Wouldn't bother

If you were doing like, a full on work rig, say, video editing?

7950x on an aio, 4090/xtx go brrrr

[mossy venture]

Ye it was Feb of 2022

[cyan ravine]

Or a 13900k goin hard on a 360 aio

Those things make sense but the 7800x3d just simply doesn't use enough power to bother with an aio imo

[vague oracle]

Even 13900k can struggle on AIO

[mossy venture]

13900k is the one cpu I'd consider spending more on an aio than notte 360

[cyan ravine]

On a $20 single tower cooler a 7800x3d is already running at the silence of a water cooler in the same scenario

So yeah, no benefit beyond just looks

[mossy venture]

I do really like the look of white fans on a black rad with a white case

Oddly specific but it looks very clean

(I am all for functionality and price effectiveness over looks)

[storm arrow]

Sorry back the the ram does that come in rgb

[cyan ravine]

There are rgb options

Look up

Teamgroup delta 5600 cl32

Comes in black or white

[mossy venture]

There's also a teamgroup 6000c32 kit I believe for $105 or so with rgb

[cyan ravine]

It's the same stuff as the 6000 cl30 so don't worry about speed

They'll do the same numbers

And xmp is mostly the same anyway

I think oloy also have a kit

[storm arrow]

A kit meaning a pair?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[storm arrow]

Okay that does it for the pc next big question

Which monitor you picking for a 1100 price range

[cyan ravine]

FV43U or LG C2

OR

M32U arm edition

Curved G7 and G9 also nice

There's also LG's GR95 Oled

[mossy venture]

I mean, what are you looking for in a monitor

Do you want a massive screen?

[cyan ravine]

But I mean, I don't personally like the price of that GR95

If you're getting a 4090 though you want 4K or at a bare minimum 1440p 240hz

Anything lower you won't be using the 4090 properly

And at that point may as well downgrade

[storm arrow]

I don't think I was a massive one I currently play ps4 on a 75in LG and it's doodoo

Probably because it's a ps4 lol

[potent portal]

PS4 non-pro is only 1080p so yeah

[cyan ravine]

Tbf even the one X was pretty meh at the time

[storm arrow]

Great help I really appreciate all of you

[cyan ravine]

Np man

Send us your list later when you're feeling pretty confident so we can give any further advice

We may have missed something

[storm arrow]

So far I have msi b650(already ordered)
Amd 7800x3d cpu
Dark rock pro 4 cpu cooler
Solidigm p44 pro ssd
Rtx 4090 msi
Teamgroup 5600 ddr5
Corsair 5000d case already have

[mossy venture]

Dark rock pro 4 isn't worth it

Ps120 se, pa120 se, ft120, fc140 and other dual tower coolers from thermalright are just as good and cheaper

Ag620 if you want the blackout look

Aside from that looks good

Also idk if you are already, but use pcpartpicker.com

It compares prices between different retailers to find the cheapest one

[spring acorn]

I have a ryzen 5 3500, planning to buy an rtx card (will need it to render on gpu intensive, low cpu usage rendering softwares) i know it might bottleneck, but what's te best deal?

I have around $300 for the gpu and extra for psu and case upgrade too.

Is 4060 worth it?

[mossy venture]

What is the total upgrade for the gpu, case and psu, and what is your entire current build?

The 4060 overall is just terrible value

At times it loses to the 3060 12gb

For rendering though it might be worth it, @cyan ravine do you know how it compares for rendering?

[potent portal]

The 4060 matches the 3060 ti in Blender

[mossy venture]

I'm assuming the 3060 ti is better than the 3060 12gb in blender? Or does the extra vram give it a leg up

I dont really know anything about rendering

[potent portal]

Fair enough, numbers are better than simple statements

(lower is better, this is render time)

An interesting contender here is the A750. A bit of a dark horse for that price.

[mossy venture]

Hm, good to know

Ty

[earnest olive]

nvm lol

rendering

[potent portal]

Yup rendering lol

[earnest olive]

4060 is faster than 3060 but...

if your scene needs more than 8gb vram then the 3060 is infinitely faster

so it just depends

[storm arrow]

Sorry I've forgotten the most important piece, the psu

Should 850watt be enough

[mossy venture]

Yes, but model is very important

Xpg core reactor is the best prices A tier 850w psu right now

[little osprey]

Can someone tell me if this is a good pc build? • NVIDIA RTX 4080 FE
• AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
• ROG STRIX B650E-F
• G.SKILL DDR 5-6000 32GB
• Alienware 24.5 1080P 240hz
• Roccat Vulcan TKL KB
• Corsair Nightsword RGB

[mossy venture]

Pls no

4080 at 1080p should be a war crime

Are you in the US? And what's your budget for the pc, including monitor keyboard and mouse

[little osprey]

I want just only pc I’m in the US my budget is $2000

[mossy venture]

Do you alr own the monitor keeb and mouse then?

[little osprey]

I have the tower already

[little osprey]

Yes

[mossy venture]

What case?

And if you can, id return the monitor. It's a good monitor, but running a 4080 at 1080p is like buying a Lamborghini and putting a camry engine in it

[little osprey]

Case : CORSAIR 3000D AIRFLOW CASE
MID-TOWER CASE

[mossy venture]

Ok few min

[little osprey]

Thanks 😊

[storm arrow]

Can I use the psu out my old computer

It's a Rosewill BRONZE Series, RBR1000-MS

Roughly 12 years old ik lol

[mossy venture]

No pls no

[mossy venture]

Do you alr have storage?

And cpu cooler?

[storm arrow]

Lol okay I'll get a new one

[mossy venture]

Oh and psu

[little osprey]

Yeah if it’s that old we physically cannot grade it’s quality

[primal linden]

it will explode

[little osprey]

Really not worth the gamble for modern hardware

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dJ78MV

[little osprey]

Can I always upgrade the ssd and memory

[mossy venture]

Are you just gaming?

If so wouldn't really be worth upgrading the ram, but yes you can

And ssd you can add storage instead of just changing it, but yeah its upgradable

[little osprey]

Oh ok

[mossy venture]

Also the monitor is optional

I just wouldn't run any gpu over like 6800 at 1080p

[little osprey]

Is the GPU upgradeable?

[mossy venture]

and you could go 4080 instead of XTX, but the xtx is beter in pure rasterization

yeah, and that psu you can carry over for multiple builds to come

[little osprey]

DLSS is just a crutch for Nvidia’s poor pricing

You cannot change my mind

[potent portal]

Considering it's easy to show that if you're barely getting 40 fps native, DLSS frame gen will be a blurry mess (but numbers go nyooom) yeah I agree

[little osprey]

I mean it’s not for me it’s for my friend

[potent portal]

Plus Nvidia comparing last gen native performance to new gen DLSS 3.0 is just dirty marketing tactics. "Look it's 80% more fps!" When the like for like comparison is more like 5-10%

[mossy venture]

hey fal im tryna send smthn in tech deals and it won't let me, mind if i dm it to you?

[potent portal]

Sure

[primal linden]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/v4L7YJ/thermaltake-toughpower-grand-rgb-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpg-0650fpcgus-r is this psu good

or should i get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/x96p99/corsair-cx650m-2021-650-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020221-na

[mossy venture]

They are both fine, but there's better 750w psus for $70 rn

Thermaltake tough power and I believe masterwatt?

[primal linden]

for $70 that would be good

[hollow steeple]

With a rx 6600 and Ryzen 3 5300g should I be getting 60 to 80 fps in warzone 2

[fossil cedar]

Depends on the settings

[hollow steeple]

What about basic settings

[teal dome]

How is the cx550m? Is it good

[lyric thistle]

it's old but it's decent

[thorn mural]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ychtpB is this worth selling for like $500?

[mossy venture]

depends on price

cxm is B tier, but has noise issues

[teal dome]

I mean it’s good tho it’s 40 bucks on fb marketplace

[desert gulch]

C tier no?

I had a cxm and remember it being c tier

[lyric thistle]

probably because of coil whine right

[mossy venture]

it was, it got moved

nope nvm

i have been lied to (im an idiot and confused myself)

[mossy venture]

it's C tier not B, excuse me

[teal dome]

Oh ok

[fossil cedar]

Don't know if there's a preset called that, do you just mean everything low?

I'd expect it to get a bit more