building-and-recc-chat

[manic cloak]

Wrong one

[little osprey]

LMFAO

[manic cloak]

There’s a one about MacBooks

[little osprey]

Yeah I don’t need a gaming laptop

Just one with a nice APU

Decent more so

[manic cloak]

Facebook marketplace or

Find a new gen laptop w/o integrated graphics for your price range

[primal linden]

spoilers after that conversation he says "Nah,ima do my own thing" and buys a $1700 dollar laptop and a $300 prebuilt with a core 2 duo

[runic spruce]

Tbh a Chromebook or iPad with a keyboard would prob best for school, I’ve heard cheap window laptops aren’t really good

I’m a little biased but for the average user macs r really good

U only have to charge like twice a week cause of how efficient it is

Apple might unveil m3 at the event

[manic cloak]

why are privacy monitor screens so expensive

like

97$?

[runic spruce]

That’s a scam

[manic cloak]

ong

[frigid night]

Fr fr

[teal dome]

Is this decent?

[runic spruce]

Meh

I’d say around 440 would be good

[teal dome]

Ok

[runic spruce]

Actually looking back on it, depending on the rest of the components that’s pretty decent

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rwTscH

I threw this together with no gpu or case

U could prob get like $40 case which makes this build cost 330

Then find a $200 gpu

[teal dome]

I’m not gonna buy that lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just oof

[manic cloak]

should I sell my 6650xt for 200, then buy a 7600?

free starfield practically..

[lone flame]

7600 isnt worth imo

[manic cloak]

229.99 ain’t bad tho

[lone flame]

eh

a 7600 XT would interest me

but a 6700 xt would somehow outperform it

[plucky timber]

Doesn't seem like a big upgrade

[earnest olive]

do you have to pay tax on it?

also, how confident are you that you can get 200 for it?

[fossil cedar]

There is/wont be an xt unless it's a refresh (basically a 50xt from rx 6000 equivalent)

[little osprey]

I’m not gonna go dirt cheap, I just know it takes quite a bit of hunting to find a good one

I’ve seen some good ones go for $400

Probably should’ve mentioned I’m open to used options as well

[fossil cedar]

@weak flint That video uses words against the rules, official warning before you get a mute or something

[manic cloak]

It’s minnesota, 600$ 6900xts and a lot of 6600s still going for 400$

[empty pollen]

6650 to 7600 seems like a sidegrade to me

[fossil cedar]

Are they crazy 6950xts new are 600 on newegg and have been for months lol

[fossil cedar]

Tis indeed

[earnest olive]

listed for 400 or selling for 400?

last time I checked minnesota is not siberia

[strong idol]

Im having trouble with my frame rate in game on my primary monitor whenever i have my second monitor on. I have 1440p 165hz and 1080p 60hz monitors. The fps counter is normal and my resolution is normal in the settings but when i turn off the second monitor, there is a crazy difference. Anyone know how to fix it?

[fossil cedar]

Are you using a live wallpaper/wallpaper engine?

[manic cloak]

Yup.. hold on

[manic cloak]

Ofc there’s people who actually sell 6600s used at a good price but it’s so inflated

Example A

6800xt 455$ 💀

[fossil cedar]

That's listed tho

Also you can just get cards shipped

[strong idol]

yes

[fossil cedar]

Even ebay should be cheaper than that

[fossil cedar]

That's your problem then

[manic cloak]

The 6800xt is also local

[strong idol]

it wasnt an issue until i got the second monitor

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but listed doesn't mean ppl are buying it for thst

[fossil cedar]

Yes because when the game pops up wallpaper engine stops running on your main monitor but because there's nothing full screen on your 2nd monitor, it's still running on your end monitor

[manic cloak]

Ik what you mean, but unless they’re trying to get rid of the card fast the price is gonna stay the same.

they want to make most of their money back

[strong idol]

i usually have discord fullscreen on the second

[fossil cedar]

That's not actually fullscreen tho

Fullscreen is when you don't see the task bar anymore so things like games, full screen videos etc, basically wallpaper engine is still running on 2nd monitor (unless you have something fullscren like a video or game on it it'll keep running when apps are maximised) and clearly the wallpaper you have is intensive

[strong idol]

there is an option in the settings to pause the wallpaper if a window is maximized. Should that fix it? i had it selected already

there is one for fullscreen and one for maximized

[earnest olive]

i mean... this is still not a $400 6600xt

[manic cloak]

I’m still trying to find more of them

[earnest olive]

ok

[manic cloak]

But it’s mostly 5700xt’s

[earnest olive]

so there's a scientific term for this

[manic cloak]

1070’s

[earnest olive]

"a complete idiot"

[manic cloak]

Those guys or me? 😭

[earnest olive]

people list 4080s on ebay for 2500

doesn't mean it's worth that much

[earnest olive]

the guy that that's listing that

[manic cloak]

Ah

[earnest olive]

the 6700xt is probably reasonable

rx 590 is not

do keep in mind that pretty much everyone on marketplace lists their stuff for more than they expect to get

since it's generally understood that offers will be made

[manic cloak]

6700xt at 300$ is practically brand new on a good day

[earnest olive]

could probably offer 250 on that 6700xt

[manic cloak]

Probably

But there’s some going for like 230$ rn

[earnest olive]

i got my 4080 by offering 765 on a listing for 1000 lol

never know until you try

the rx 590 is worth like $70 though

anyways

do you have to pay tax on rx 7600?

if you do then you're pretty much paying full price for starfield even if you get 200 for the 6650xt

[manic cloak]

25$ off coupon for over 100$ at Microcenter

Covers tax

[earnest olive]

hmm

ok that's new info

how far are you from micro center

[manic cloak]

45 min

[earnest olive]

i'd hold off on buying the 7600 and just list your 6650xt for sale for now

if someone buys it then you can just go drive to micro center lol

[manic cloak]

Plus aren’t they discontinuing the 6650xt

I heard something

[manic cloak]

True lol

[earnest olive]

i mean yeah but that doesn't exactly increase the value

[manic cloak]

Ikik

[earnest olive]

not like rx 7600 is hard to find

[manic cloak]

I’m not a Pokémon game person

[earnest olive]

a what

[fossil cedar]

Try that but i wouldn't doubt it's still causing issues if that's still happening

[teal dome]

decent? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W2mHh3

[mossy venture]

No not really

That mobo is not enough for a 12600k and the aio is not good, the frozen notte 240 is cheaper and much better

B660m pro rs is a much better mobo and is $90

Aside from that looks good

Do you alr have a psu?

[teal dome]

nope

i forgor

make me a new list xD

[fossil cedar]

imo pop is meh case too espensive

[teal dome]

any other cases?]

i want micro atx mid

[primal linden]

Aesthetics

[fossil cedar]

Lemme see

[teal dome]

real

[primal linden]

re al

[fossil cedar]

also assuming you already have a good psu?

[teal dome]

No lmao

I forgot to put

Imma go with corsair rm

[primal linden]

599 wattage is crazy

[fossil cedar]

those wattage numbers can basically be ignored

btw

[fossil cedar]

havent bought it yet have you?

[teal dome]

No

[fossil cedar]

because theres better options atm

cool

[teal dome]

I haven’t bought anything yet

[teal dome]

I thought it was a tier?

[fossil cedar]

it is but for 5$ over the rm750e you can get an 850w A tier

so might as well

[primal linden]

that’s bonkers

[teal dome]

Send me link

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NbRbXk everything here is better and or just as good

[teal dome]

Alright

[fossil cedar]

And cheaper

[teal dome]

Thank you

[teal dome]

Is there cheaper cases?

[fossil cedar]

Unfortunately not for matx that are good

[strong raft]

If a couple inches taller case that fits atx mobos was ok, $60 for G300A phanteks

[mossy venture]

I second patos list

Could save money by either going ddr4, $40 saved on mobo and $40 on ram, and 6800xt for $484-500

And could go for a cheaper psu with a 6800xt

Since I know you were looking for around $1100

[teal dome]

Alright thank you for your help

[wary tundra]

im so angry

it said it was packaging my order and I get a email 2 days later that my motherboard isnt coming

[strange hatch]

Bro within the last hour all of a sudden half my build is backordered on newegg

[mossy venture]

If you haven't ordered yet I could make you an alternative option

What's the budget, country, and use case?

[strange hatch]

I don't know if it was a glitch in their system or not but now everything is back to being available. I haven't purchased most of it yet I just ordered my motherboard today. It didn't flag as backordered but a bunch of other stuff did on both newegg and on pcpartpicker. Now its back to normal

and whilst I do appreciate your input I'm going with this I think https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/f4cr6D

[mossy venture]

I would cancel the mobo order if you can

$300 is really expensive for what it is

[strange hatch]

The case arrived a couple days ago, mobo ordered today. I have no desire to go micro with my mobo.

[mossy venture]

Opinions on this? https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KHBtgB

S70> 970 evo plus, notte 360 is within a few degrees of an ls720, and with the way am5 is it won't make any difference at all between the two

If you can't return the antec case than it'll function, just not as good airflow

Fans are just as good, but if you really want the asthetic of the ones you had in there than go for them

Mobo just as good, separate wifi adapter included in the list

Plenty of other options on case too

[strange hatch]

What are you talking about lol none of what you're suggesting saves me anything or makes any big difference. Telling me I should return things I've already bought is just disrespectful. I've had dozens of peoples input on this build so far and yours comes off as one of the least inspiring. Sorry. I'm building compared to already existing builds that are crushing it.

[mossy venture]

Lol OK

$200 difference for an identical performing build (ssd actually is better than the 970 Evo plus but won't really make a difference in actual experience for gaming anyways)

I was not disrespectful anywhere, if you chose to take that from what I said then ok.

Not my issue.

[mossy citrus]

I wouldve just gotten a different ssd

970 evo is kinda old and not well priced compared to current offerings

[strange hatch]

Offering an opinion on a build is one thing, telling someone they should return what they already bought is just rude. Those fans are ok but you should return them and get the ones I like because my opinion matters more lol come on how do you think saying something like that makes someone feel about the confidence of their build that they've already spent on

[mossy citrus]

Also wheres the psu

[strange hatch]

haven't even chosen a psu yet

[mossy citrus]

Or yknow you couldve just ordered after getting input

Thats my take

[strange hatch]

I did

I've taken dozens of peoples input

[mossy venture]

I suggested something and said it was OK if you didn't

Find a reason to be offended but don't make things up lmao

I literally said the fans are similar, but if you like the asthetic of the ones you had in your list then go for them

I said the antec case had worse airflow, but if you didn't feel like returning it it'd be fine.

[strange hatch]

You told me to return the two things I bought my guy beat it

[mossy venture]

LOL

"BEAT IT"

You're funny

"Told"

Damn I'm so demanding

Crazy

[mossy citrus]

If youve taken that much then why are you posting here?

[mossy venture]

Buy what you want, it's your money

I made a suggestion, choose to ignore it

[strange hatch]

demeaning, not demanding. Because I value peoples opinions when they're not rude about it

[mossy venture]

But don't be an ass for absolutely no reason

[mossy citrus]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VjZCbL

I just changed the ssd and added a psu

[mossy venture]

I was not rude till you were. Tone is not very easy to pick up when reading, maybe you misinterpreted. But that is still not my issue.

[mossy citrus]

The mobo is pricey imo but idk CA pricing

Id still go with something cheaper because a tomahawk is pretty overkill

[mossy venture]

About $110 over an matx board, or $70 over an atx non wifi board

[strange hatch]

probably gonna go with 1000w psu

[mossy citrus]

1000w is also extremely overkill

[strange hatch]

see no I don't think it is

[mossy venture]

Damn dude must have looked at 7900xtx and 7800x3d power requirements and made a knowledgeable decision because of those

[little osprey]

Just let dude spend money for no reason

[mossy citrus]

1000w psus are like $240+ for a good one

[little osprey]

What's a good 1000w psu?

[mossy venture]

Amp v2 for the US

[frigid night]

Considering he didn't TELL you to return anything.. I'd say his SUGGESTION is based on experience and not rude in the slightest.

[mossy venture]

$135 for an A tier 1000w unit, but its a rebate

Otherwise I think gf3 tt premium?

[little osprey]

I saw rm1000e for 170€, that's why I ask

[mossy venture]

For us too

[mossy venture]

Oh what country?

[little osprey]

Portugal

[mossy venture]

One sec I'll take a look

[little osprey]

Maybe I was seeing the wrong price

Yeah

150

[mossy venture]

Rme for 170 isn't bad then, this is the beat option new
https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/yXHqqs/phanteks-amp-v2-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000g_02

Ooh nice 150 euros is a decent deal

[little osprey]

Yeah, although I got a 750w

Don't need more for a 7800x3d and 6950xt

[mossy venture]

Yeah 750w B or A tier is fine for that

[little osprey]

I got the rm750e, cuz the rm750x was out of stock

[mossy venture]

Eh, still a great psu

I had an rmx650 and it ran an oced 6800xt without issue

[little osprey]

Yeee, might not have the "japanese" thingies, but Shirley it works

Should be a piece of cake, the cpu is really efficient

[mossy venture]

Rme 750 I'd trust with a 4090 lol

Only gpu I don't think I would is a 3090 ti

[little osprey]

I could only draw 90W, ofc not overclocked

[mossy venture]

Yeah I doubt it'll go over 125w for games

[little osprey]

From the gpu, I didn't checked, tmrw I'll check

[little osprey]

It went 90w in occt

The only "problem" is that is running a little hot in idle

Like 49-51 C

It's not hot

[mossy venture]

Yeah thats normal

[little osprey]

But it's basically no difference than when in stress

(around 62C)

[mossy venture]

Am5 gets toasty, and due to the ihs thickness diff coolers don't make as big of a difference as other platforms

[little osprey]

Ahhhh

Was really concerned if it was the pump not working properly

[mossy venture]

Nah you'd know if that was the issue

Am5 just hot

[little osprey]

I'm running games better than what I was thinking I would

[mossy venture]

Compare a dual tower cooler like the ps120 se and a cheap single tower cooler like 214xt on a 7800x3d and they'd perform near identical

[little osprey]

But cs2

Cs2 is a little under performing "only" at 500

Sometimes go over 600

[mossy venture]

Damn that's insufficient tbh

[little osprey]

NAAAH

I know it's a lot

But I saw in a chart

[mossy venture]

No ik lol just messing with you

[little osprey]

That 7800x3d

Was capable of 630 average

[mossy venture]

Are you running low settings or high settings?

[little osprey]

Ultra settings

But in 1280x1024

[mossy venture]

That's probably it, unless the bench specifically says ultra settings?

[little osprey]

Bench was at 1080p 16/9 at max settings

[mossy venture]

Hm

[little osprey]

Maybe just a nvidia preference thing no?

[mossy venture]

Ram maybe?

4080 or 4090?

[wary tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cat-not-laughing-caption-gif-19739492

[little osprey]

Hmmm could be it, Idk if he had 6000mhz or 6400mhz

[mossy venture]

6400 is a bit fast for am5

You have xmp enabled?

[little osprey]

Afaik, the bro that I saw had a tuf 4090

Yeah, at 6000mhz

6000c40 cuz everything else was out of stock smh

[mossy venture]

That could be it but I doubt 7900xtx vs 4090 makes a difference at 1080p in a cpu focused game

[mossy venture]

Maybe they had smthn like 6000c30? But I still doubt that'd account for a 130fps difference

Am5 does like low timings though

You could likely get much lower timings without too much effort tuning

[little osprey]

I'll try to upgrade ram as soon as I can then 😭

[mossy venture]

Ehh

I wouldnt say that's the answer

[little osprey]

[mossy venture]

It could be completely unrelated

[little osprey]

Last time I overclocked something was my old gpu and it started crashing

[mossy venture]

Could be variance in map, maybe a clean install and nothing running in background for the bench

[mossy venture]

People could help you over in #overclocking

[little osprey]

(overclocked core by 1%)

[mossy venture]

Doing something on the more simple end should be fairly easy for someone to help you with

[little osprey]

Now that I think of it, bro might be in a practice map

Where I can easily get 700+

Hmmmm

[mossy venture]

That would make sense

[little osprey]

Well, I'd say in everywhere else my pc is over performing compared to the benchmarks

So yeah, it might be smth with it

I'll check tmrw, cuz I'm cozy in my bed

[cyan ravine]

I have to say something to this. Because I looked at your list again and see very little if anything that a lot of us here would recommend. I asked you earlier if you still had the list I'd made, this looks nothing like it.

If you're here for positive affirmations a large number of us aren't those types of people. We offer our time and help to help dig people out of egregious purchasing so they walk away just as happy with more in pocket, and we volunteer to do so.

[cyan ravine]

And it's not. If we know of something that is straight up the same or better for a cheaper price then we offer the suggestion in the way that it's worth your time and again saves money. It's not disrespectful at all. We again, volunteer to help here of no benefit ourselves or representation of this server

If you find it rude that I'd say, "Return the unifans. I've owned them and they're terrible, not worth it." Then tbh c'est la vie. It's a public forum and you're openly inviting public opinion

And I say double to this when Bacca was just offering the same advice as we always do. There was no malicious intent at all there.

[earnest olive]

yeah idk man he even said keep them if you're into the aesthetic I truly can't see how anything he said was demeaning or disrespectful

don't ask for opinions if you don't want opinions

[flint sapphire]

Oooo drama 👀

[tawny fiber]

How much should I list this for

[fossil cedar]

That's so unbalanced wtf

Uh 700-800 sounds fair i think

[mossy venture]

Gah damn felix

[little osprey]

@mossy venture it seems like it really was a open free map

[haughty void]

free

[storm arrow]

Trying to see what I should keep/change in this new build. Was going to go with the following
Corsair 5000 case
Nvidia suprim 4090 gpu
Ryzen 9 7050 cpu
Corsair hx1000 psu
MSI MEG X670E motherboard
Samsung 990 ssd
Corsair dominator ram
Msi meg s360 cpu cooler

[little osprey]

good fellas that know what they are talking about

[pseudo pollen]

no

[little osprey]

well, do you have any prefference? budget and country

[storm arrow]

To which part

[pseudo pollen]

most of them

I'm also guessing you meant the 7950x

[storm arrow]

Yes

[pseudo pollen]

With that build, I'm guessing you have almost no budget, so I'll need you to answer some questions. What's your currency, budget, aesthetic preference, and use case

[storm arrow]

Usa, between 4k-5k range

[pseudo pollen]

Also what do you want it to look like, and what are you going to do with it

[little osprey]

this aswell

I'd go for intel tbh

[pseudo pollen]

depends on what you're doing

[storm arrow]

Honestly going for a stealth build

[pseudo pollen]

what are you going to use the pc for?

[little osprey]

ehh, not really, i9 13900ks will be better than the 7800x3d

[storm arrow]

Basically just gaming

[little osprey]

on like 90% of the games

[pseudo pollen]

while being 3x the price

not worth it

[pseudo pollen]

alr, give me a minute

[little osprey]

yeah, I give you that, but seeing that he has almost no budget

[pseudo pollen]

Just gaming though, and 13900ks will make so much heat

[storm arrow]

I was looking at the godlike motherboard but knowing Basically nothing it's a waste of money?

[pseudo pollen]

Yeah basically

motherboards just need to work, and if you want anything extra/more reliability, that's where the different models come in

[storm arrow]

I don't think I need built in wifi

I want it connected to ethernet

[pseudo pollen]

You don't have to use the wifi, but it's on most higher end motherboards anyways

[storm arrow]

Okay

I did buy the case today should I have went with the 7000 for more airflow?

[pseudo pollen]

It shouldn't matter much

You probably want a few extra fans though

how much storage do you want?

[storm arrow]

Yeah for sure lol I'll have the 3 in the front the 3 on the side, the 2 that comes with the graphics card plus 1 at the top and 1 at the rear

[pseudo pollen]

2 with the gpu? it's 3

and with this cpu you're gonna be getting a aio, so 3 extra at the front/top

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TtYGGP this is the list, make sure to check with a few others before buying anything. you can change the gpu to any model you want, as all perform almost the same

[storm arrow]

The rtx 4090 liquid cooled comes with 2

[pseudo pollen]

which one

[storm arrow]

Ahh I was looking at the msi suprim

[pseudo pollen]

yeah it still has 3

[strong raft]

Not 3 on it's rad though. Only a big deal if someone needed to fit in a smaller case. I like the tubes out the end on the Aorus personally, idk.

[manic cloak]

Hey what’s the performance of an Xbox Series X compared to Pcs

[frigid night]

That's.. a broad question because PC performance varies so much depending on the hardware configuration.

[manic cloak]

Well certainly somebody here knows what CPU compares to what’s inside the xbox, same with the lines of a gpu if it even has one.

[late fjord]

3600x/3700x I believe.

[manic cloak]

Yk the gpu too?

or just the cpu, cause if so I might just build a pc and call it a day

[teal dome]

Guys I need help

It’s a hp victus

How much do you think I should offer for this pc

[steel musk]

isnt this a furniture store or something

why are they selling pcs

[teal dome]

Idk lol

The seller sent me it

How much do you think I should pay for it

It’s listed for 650 with a monitor

[steel musk]

usd?

[teal dome]

Ye

[steel musk]

that sounds good actually

considering 3060s are overpriced brand new rn...they want $250 for a 3060

[teal dome]

Alright

@steel musk

What about this

[steel musk]

y'know i have no idea

i'd say the former 3060 build is better

[teal dome]

Alright

[steel musk]

i think that CPU is from 2017?

[teal dome]

I might get it for 500 cuz they are in a hurry to get rid of it

[teal dome]

And the monitor is on 144hz

[obsidian wigeon]

250 for a 3060 ain't too bad

but if it's used no

or even new, i'd just throw radeon on lol

3060 build is a lot better

5600xt is 2060 perf, r5 1600 is piss slow nowadays

650 for 5600g and 3060 is fine

can definitely do 600 imo

[manic cloak]

250 for a 3060 is okay ig

7600 better

[obsidian wigeon]

but you can't do 650 bucks rig with these specs new including monitor

look at it this way

[manic cloak]

But is it legit?

Cause isn’t that a furniture company

[teal dome]

I might get it for lower but the only problem is how am I gonna pick it up also like it’s a prebuilt idk how am I gonna upgrade it

[obsidian wigeon]

it's an hp prebuilt

[teal dome]

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

might be legit but honestly, if it's one of those pavilions and victus, no

or omen

omen 30l at least is where you can do upgrades

[steel musk]

god forbid they have a custom mobo with custom bios

[teal dome]

It’s a victus

[steel musk]

better do research on that

[teal dome]

Sadness

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah no

victus is pavilion with a different name

[teal dome]

Nonetheless it’s such a good deal

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

i'd argue otherwise because prebuilt

[teal dome]

Maybe I can remove the parts inside and make a new build with case and motherboard

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[teal dome]

[obsidian wigeon]

case and mobo aren't standard in form factor

they're proprietary

[teal dome]

No I meant like

[obsidian wigeon]

not atx or matx, or itx

[teal dome]

Remove the components inside and make a new one with new case and mobo

Maybe change ram too if it doesn’t work

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not worth spending 650 bucks on a whole pc just to gut it and get new parts

and oem ram sucks

[teal dome]

I also get a monitor for it

[obsidian wigeon]

that'd cost you 800 overall, quickly

even if we account for monitor

[teal dome]

Hmm

So it’s not worth

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[teal dome]

Aight imma not buy it then

I’m trynna find good deals to flip

[manic cloak]

@teal dome what’s your budget and have you ever looked on facebook market?

[teal dome]

I’m on Facebook marketplace lol

[manic cloak]

Oh 😭

[teal dome]

The pc deals are so ass

And I gotta drive an hour to get any of them

6950 for 680

[earnest olive]

it's not worth 500 lol

[teal dome]

Aight imma not buy it then

Thanks for your help guys

Maybe if get it lower than 500 I’ll let y’all know

[earnest olive]

350 max

300 would be a good deal

[teal dome]

Aight

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2TcYN

a little something i crudely threw together

[teal dome]

Ok

Why are monitor so expensive

[obsidian wigeon]

there's probably cheaper ones for gaming that are as good or better than the gigabyte g27f

but im not sure so i slapped it on there

[untold vessel]

Everyone, I need emergency help. I've been tasked by my University to find the best prebuilt gaming PC for $1,600 USD. Building our own PCs is not an option. Does anyone know of any better performing PCs than this?

https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa13700f4070-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360404?Item=N82E16883360404

[manic cloak]

What state?

[untold vessel]

PA

[untold vessel]

Previous Pick was this, back when it's own price was $1,600 USD: https://www.amazon.com/Skytech-Azure-Gaming-PC-Desktop/dp/B0B52V47KB/ref=pd_ybh_a_sccl_24/136-2319757-5448006

The Newegg ABS I linked blows it out of the water, but it doesn't have 32GB of RAM

[manic cloak]

Hmm I see

[mossy venture]

What games are they being used for?

If esports that looks fine

If non esports games I'd try to find smthn with a better gpu and worse cpu, but if those aren't around it's fine

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CChFf7/hp-x24ih-238-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-2w924aaaba this would be better in some ways than the g27f

[mossy venture]

hey

I would do this configuration

on this build https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Esports-Essential-Gaming-PC

could go for 5700, it'd still be in budget

and/or 4070

[untold vessel]

eSports games!

[mossy venture]

then the build you linked wouldn't be bad, better cpu than in the one I linked which is what's more important for esports

one sec tho lemme see if I could do better with cyberpower

[untold vessel]

Thank you so much!

[untold vessel]

I think I'm not allowed customization freedoms; The PC I get for everyone must be directly purchasable from one link and a couple clicks-- For example, Amazon or Newegg

[mossy venture]

yeah cyberpower would allow that but doesn't look like there's anything better

so I'd go for the ABS one

[untold vessel]

Got it!

Too bad about the RAM though

Would 16GB of DDR5 really beat 32 of DDR4

[mossy venture]

nah not really, because 8 gb sticks of ddr5 is terrible, and 16gb single channel is also terrible

[fossil cedar]

For some reason this text is impossible to read when you zoom in, maybe it's a mobile thing idk

Actually without zooming too

[mossy venture]

i think it's a mobile thing i can read it from the ss on my pc

[fossil cedar]

Hdr messing things up?

@untold vessel idk how much the cyberpower one was but this is an okay price
https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-azure2-0801-b-ne/p/3D5-000Z-00161?item=3D5-000Z-00161

[mossy venture]

Skytech :p

[untold vessel]

Tysm

[untold vessel]

Is there still negative press surrounding Skytech?

[fossil cedar]

It's mixed

So is basically everything other than abs and lenovo tho

[fossil cedar]

No probs

[manic cloak]

Holy

is this good cause holy

Nvm

[mossy venture]

Good price but the opening box thing is sus asf lmao

[potent portal]

Yeah how would you know if there's even a PC in that box, or if it's a bunch of bricks?

It's already heavily discounted, the value won't be reduced more than it's already discounted lol

[weary galleon]

(I'll have 2-3 per week)

🤔

[gloomy tiger]

Hi there, could anyone take a brief look if these parts go together well please?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2q8pZw

[little osprey]

it seems fine to me

[gloomy tiger]

thank you!

[little osprey]

maybe changing the 4090 brand

but it shouldn't change much

[fossil cedar]

they do, id do this instead tho, nicer case, just as good gpu for cheaper, just as good power supply for cheaper, ram you have is decent but ideally needs to be manually overclocked to 6000mhz and ram oc can be a pain, so if youre not okay with that my kit is a better choice, ssd is a bit better same price
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmLZRK

[gloomy tiger]

awesome thanks guys!

[fossil cedar]

no probs

[little osprey]

does zotac still have problems with thermals?

[fossil cedar]

theyre fine, all the 4090s are overbuilt but xlr8 is pretty good, and id say better

[little osprey]

yeah, I asked cuz in ampere zotac was one of the worst brand

almost no room for oc

(which tbf that's almost every gpu atm)

[mossy venture]

Looks like a great list

[little osprey]

and my gpu was sitting at 60C

idle

[mossy venture]

Patos is a bit better though

[little osprey]

[heady vapor]

Yo

[empty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/zotac-3080-gif-18549684

[heady vapor]

will a 13700k bottle neck a 1070 ti

[empty pollen]

no

you cpu will have a walk in the park with that gpu

[little osprey]

prolly the 1070 ti will bottleneck your cpu

[teal dome]

Best budget psu under 70?

[little osprey]

[heady vapor]

so will either of them limit each other?

[mossy venture]

For what cpu and gpu

[empty pollen]

you will always have a bottleneck

[teal dome]

Idc honestly

I’m just asking

[empty pollen]

one side will always be faster than the other

[teal dome]

Maybe 750 or 700

[mossy venture]

No the gpu is very much the limiting factor

[mossy venture]

One sec then

[little osprey]

NAAAH BROOO

why did I get an X

and bacca got a this

imma cry

[heady vapor]

spur of the moment i just bought a 13700k bundle for 500 with 32 ddr5 ram and a mobo

[little osprey]

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7y4BD3/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-550f14hg

[little osprey]

gaww daaamn

[teal dome]

They said the same thing

[heady vapor]

hopefully the 1070ti will hold up then black friday i’ll get a gpu

[teal dome]

It will

[mossy venture]

The 1070 ti will be fine

[teal dome]

You got this fella

[mossy venture]

It's fine for gaming

[empty pollen]

a limiting factor is not the same as a bottleneck xD

[little osprey]

[mossy venture]

It kinda is :p

[heady vapor]

thank y’all

[little osprey]

watchu meaaan

might be my poor english, but for me it's pretty much the same thing

[mossy venture]

Btw @teal dome just in case you didn't see it

[potent portal]

As long as you aren't planning on playing Starfield or something yeah it'll be fine

[little osprey]

(also, I'm not butthurt, I was really trying to understand to help people better the next time)

[teal dome]

I saw maybe higher watt honestly

[empty pollen]

still 2 hours to play starfield T_T to see if the reviews are true to the story

[mossy venture]

Then you'd want more expensive, aside from $52 apevia Prestige 600w, but thats lower quality

But one sec

[heady vapor]

will the 13700k handle star field

[potent portal]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Oh this is really good

[little osprey]

the gpu would be bawling its eyes out tho

[potent portal]

About 100 fps in cpu heavy areas I've seen with the 13700k

[mossy venture]

$80 A tier 850w psu https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tWMTwP/cooler-master-mwe-gold-850-v2-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpe-8501-afaag-us

[little osprey]

well tbf, every gpu is atm

[empty pollen]

starfield isnt that hard to run for the cpus xD.... gpus tho.....

[potent portal]

I beg to differ, my 5800X would only get HALF the fps of a 13900k in CPU heavy areas

[empty pollen]

but the dlss/xess mod supposedly made the gpu load a lot lighter

[empty pollen]

yikes, that game surely is a jewel

[potent portal]

Literally, 57 fps vs 113 fps

[weary galleon]

Not really though

[mossy venture]

@teal dome

[potent portal]

It can't even get 60 fps at 1080p ultra
It's insane

[empty pollen]

so, starfield is heavy on both gpu and cpu... yikes

[weary galleon]

Sweats in 5600x

[empty pollen]

bethesda really nailed this one

and the graphics are not that.... great

[heady vapor]

what do i do with my old mobo and cpu

[empty pollen]

imo ofc

[mossy venture]

Sell them

[little osprey]

dx12 i heard

[mossy venture]

Also have you already bought the 13700k

?

[heady vapor]

yeah driving now to pick up

[little osprey]

he got the 13700k in a bundle

[empty pollen]

or repurpose them into anohter pc and sonate it to some school in your area

[heady vapor]

didn’t pay yet technically

[potent portal]

It's a really weird game as far as CPU scaling goes. It really like L2 cache, and L3 to a lesser extent. So the 13600k through 13900k can beat the 7800X3D handily.

[mossy venture]

Ah ok

Bundle is fair

[empty pollen]

everyting to lessen the e-waste impact

[little osprey]

it was a good deal for what I saw

500 for 13700, mobo and 32GB

[empty pollen]

im going to crank everything to ultra 1440p native later today

[weary galleon]

If you're just using it with the 1070ti though... Might be worth waiting and buying cpu alongside new gpu

[mossy venture]

Eh possibly, possibly not

[potent portal]

Enjoy your 40 fps in towns and forests

[empty pollen]

probably

60 at most

then a 40-50 fiesta everywhere

if it runs somewhat sloppy i will get that dlss mod

[heady vapor]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006461/intel-core-i7-13700k,-asus-z790-p-prime-wifi-ddr5,-gskill-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

[potent portal]

My poor 3080 ti would only get 51 fps at 1440p high

[little osprey]

I mean, if bro has the money, just walk to the other aisle

[heady vapor]

ima wait till black friday for gpu

[weary galleon]

They want to wait till BF to buy a gpu

[empty pollen]

1070ti will hold pretty well on most games

bar starfield ofc

[heady vapor]

i’m upgrading from i5 7600k and r9 fury

[empty pollen]

we are yet to see pahntom liberty tho.... must be pretty demanding as well

however, seems a lot more detailed than starfield

[little osprey]

tbf gimme a gpu other that is holding well in starfield

[heady vapor]

will it be a significant upgrade

[empty pollen]

i went from 4770k/750ti to 13600/4080 that was a huuuuge jump

[little osprey]

yeah

[heady vapor]

lfgggggg

[potent portal]

Part of the issue with starfield is how massive they made everything. The game runs splendidly indoors, but as soon as you hit the open world...

[little osprey]

minecraft map is huge tho

arguably bigger

[empty pollen]

massive but lifeless sadly, procedurally generated world ended in barren wastelands everywhere that eat resources like a hole in the ground

[little osprey]

just like fh5 and nfs unbound, so cool

[empty pollen]

yeah kinda

[weary galleon]

I know Bethesda ain't gonna use Unreal but it seems odd that there hasn't been much effort from devs other than epic to make something like Nanite

[empty pollen]

bethesda made its gamble in the skyrim/fallout engine to me

i hate the plain looking characters so much

[little osprey]

well, big companies have their own engines

[weary galleon]

It just seems like with correct implementation Nanite (or a similar tech) should bring a massive perf uplift *especially in outdoor environments with far off models

[empty pollen]

seems like coming back to the old oblivion days

[little osprey]

not constrained to what a secondary company wants in their engine

[weary galleon]

Yeah I don't expect them to try and use nanite but rather an in house version of it

[empty pollen]

anyway, im looking forward to phantom liberty at the end of this month.... with luck it will shrink starfield to a long forgotten memory

[potent portal]

But it's not loading every chunk at the same time, and when you try to force it to load 255 chunks you run out of memory

[empty pollen]

someday i will try minecraft

[little osprey]

yeah ik, but they could've done somthing simillar no?

[potent portal]

lol no

All they did was mod the Skyrim/Fallout 4 engine

Which of course means it'll be exactly 1 hour before there's a mod that makes everyone into amogus characters

[little osprey]

[manic cloak]

@potent portal @mossy venture should I take the chance?

[potent portal]

What, the $300 PC that you can't even look at before you buy? No

[manic cloak]

Alr.

[stark marlin]

Can I get some help with a build?

[stoic island]

What's up

[stark marlin]

Idk what's this 3 pin connector

Can u go to vc

[vague oracle]

Send a pic

[stark marlin]

I can show u my troubles

Also

[potent portal]

That's a fan

[stark marlin]

What is positive and negative on this?

[potent portal]

It only fits one way

[stark marlin]

But it only has 3 pins

[potent portal]

Yep

[stark marlin]

Oh

...

[potent portal]

What does the text on this one say? Should be something like RESETSW or HDD_LED

If it's a switch (SW), it's not polarized, but LEDs are polarized

[stark marlin]

It's sw

So I can put it in no matter what?

[potent portal]

Yeah that can go either way, positive and negative don't matter

[stark marlin]

The arrow don't matter?

[potent portal]

The arrow is technically negative but the way switches work, it doesn't matter

[stark marlin]

Ty

[hot kite]

So im thinking of getting a 4070 ti question is if its worth it?

[mossy venture]

Depends on price

And use case

But in most cases it's not worth it

[storm arrow]

Best AIO cpu cooler?

[mossy venture]

Best price/perf and most worth buying rn, frozen notte

Best overall that are worth it, liquid freezer ii, lian li galahad, anything EK, all depends on pricing

[storm arrow]

MSI?

[cyan ravine]

No aios from MSI rn worth buying

[storm arrow]

And just wanted to get a second opinion on what to keep and what to get rid of for a gaming pc no budget

Trying to see what I should keep/change in this new build. Was going to go with the following
Corsair 5000 case
Nvidia suprim 4090 gpu
Ryzen 9 7050 cpu
Corsair hx1000 psu
MSI MEG X670E motherboard
Samsung 990 ssd
Corsair dominator ram
Msi meg s360 cpu cooler

[cyan ravine]

I'd change a lot of that

For gaming pc, brb

I'll make you something

@storm arrow https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pn7V6D
No budget white build. Best of the best

The motherboard isn't currently 125 but should be back in stock soon at 125. We recommend that board all the time

If you're curious why I picked this btw by all means I'm open to questions

[fleet heron]

definitely do some research because 4090s arent cheap

[cyan ravine]

Indeed

[storm arrow]

Being that I bought the case already would the asrock 650 pro be a good alternative

[cyan ravine]

You want a black build? I can change the aesthetic rq

[storm arrow]

Yeah I bought the corsair 5000 black

[cyan ravine]

Alr

Should be cheaper, one sec

Wait

Lemme make it look a bit better

Boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Nvr6D

There we go

[storm arrow]

Your opinion should I get the 4090 liquid cooled? Like the suprim

[heady vapor]

Yo

i’m putting together my Mobo

i got this ssd

SAMSUNG 990 PRO w/ Heatsink SSD 2TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 Internal Solid State Hard Drive, Fastest Speed for Gaming, Heat Control, Direct Storage and Memory Expansion, Compatible w/ Playstation5, MZ-V9P2T0CW https://a.co/d/18lwVwl

Since it has the heat sink

[mossy venture]

Not worth

Theyre an annoyance to maintain and are more expensive for a 1-3% gain in actual performance

[heady vapor]

I took out the m.2 cover screwed in and out this 990 in and screwed it in now

Now I have the m.2 slot cover with the sticky blue stuff on it is that the mobo heat sink?

like do i have to screw this cover back on top of the newly put in ssd with a heat sink

ya i think i just don’t cover the ssd since it’s has a heat shield already and just chuck the mobos plate cover

[runic spruce]

Nvme heatsheilds are removable well most of them, but I’d personally change the nvme slot to one without a heat sink unless the pcie lane speed doesn’t match it

[heady vapor]

ohhh You know what I have another m.2 without a heat sink already on it like this 990 samsung one

so i’ll put that one there and use the mobo heat sink and then i’ll use the other one with the heat sink on a area that doesn’t have the cover

smart

[frigid night]

Even if you didn't need the heatsink, I'd keep it in case you ever upgraded to storage without one.

Or in the future if you decide to upgrade Mobo, you have everything this one came with to sell it.

[hot kite]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wMrKBL Let me know what yall think

[manic cloak]

No 😭

Budget, country/state, white I assume, and resolution?

[south cliff]

And what he does on the computer

[hot kite]

$2200, USA, white/black, 1440p

[manic cloak]

And what do you do?

Game? Video edit? What’s the rig

[hot kite]

game

[manic cloak]

Do you live near a microcenter? How far if so?

[hot kite]

No, Ive got best buy

[manic cloak]

Okok

@hot kite https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LJrKBL

Any issues, otherwise forever hold your peace?

[hot kite]

IDK this is gonna be my first build

[manic cloak]

Are you building if?

It*

[hot kite]

yes

thanks for the suggestion too btw

[manic cloak]

Yw

[south cliff]

Yo a 1tb m.2 for 30
Dollars

[manic cloak]

Mhm

[south cliff]

I didn’t k ow they went down that much

That’s really good

I might have to get one

[desert gulch]

It's mir $10 so it's not just said and done $30 from the get-go

[lone flame]

Would the xfx 6950 XT fit in a montech air100 argb

[weary galleon]

According to montechs site the max gpu length is 330mm and techpowerup says the 6950xt is 340

Might be able to fit it if you removed a front case fan

Honestly though if you have the budget to get a 6950xt you might look at a slightly nicer case

Unless you already have the air 100

[lone flame]

I already did my first build in it like 2 months ago

[weary galleon]

gotcha

[lone flame]

Thinking about upgrading before the 6950 goes away and the 77/7800 coming out tmr

[cyan ravine]

you can get the liquid cooled suprim yeah. same price.

but in honestly if aesthetics don't matter? just get the cheapest. The pny verto is plenty good

$150 difference for aesthetics is a tough pill I wouldn't swallow

[weak flint]

for 1440p you really dont need that much i'd rather upgrade a monitor and put a 6950xt

[obsidian wigeon]

2.2k?

[weak flint]

anyways https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NGJcYN a bit over budget but if you wait a bit for some deals its gonna be on budget also the case is arguable lol

[obsidian wigeon]

i can slap 7800x3d inside lol

[weak flint]

yeah but like who needs that much fps at 1440p with a 7900xtx anyways\

[cyan ravine]

2.2K should be just shy of a best of the best build

[obsidian wigeon]

no need for 4090, just xtx is ok

like felix just said

xtx and 7800x3d

[weak flint]

id upgrade monitor but ig thats just me

[cyan ravine]

2375 gets 4090 + 7800x3d but that's a 4k build

that's the new base

[weak flint]

mm but deals yk

[cyan ravine]

omg pulse is 890

someone post that in tech deals

7900 xtx

@hot kite this is what I'd do for 1440p, the wireless card is a subsitute, get an intel ax200 or ax210 wireless desktop kit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7b2J89

[weak flint]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/th7QZJ

oh bruh u already posted

ah forgot to change the case

[weak flint]

they said white/black

[cyan ravine]

https://www.amazon.com/Intel®-Wi-Fi-Gig-Desktop-Kit/dp/B085M7VPDP

[cyan ravine]

white black is just as easy

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZxfQZJ boop

wait a week for the mobo to be back in stock

[weak flint]

no rgb :(

but yeah same thing

[cyan ravine]

@hot kite ^^^

rgb is easy too lmao

boop
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QyFvn6

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fV4cYN 4090 build would look like this but you'd do it for 4K gaming, again, buy an intel ax 200 kit instead of the wifi adapter I put (about the same price or cheaper)
https://www.amazon.com/Intel®-Wi-Fi-Gig-Desktop-Kit/dp/B085M7VPDP

[potent portal]

The 4090 is no longer overkill for 1440p, if your game of choice is Starfield. Strangely enough, it loses to the XTX in almost every way. Almost like that was intentional.

[cyan ravine]

not changing my recc for only one game

[potent portal]

I know lol

[cyan ravine]

and with fsr it's still 4k60+ 💀

[potent portal]

It's nice to be able to fit a 4090 into a 2.4k build at all without throttling the 4090 to hell

[cyan ravine]

not just 2.4k at that

2.4k white or black

[weak flint]

msi has a 4090 with water cooling its like 1.7k have yall ever tried it?

[cyan ravine]

got options

[cyan ravine]

I have the air cooled variant

[weak flint]

ive used it in builds a few time seems nice but never tried it irl

[cyan ravine]

suprim 4090 is very nice

classy af

would I recommend it? rarely if ever

[potent portal]

Not too long ago you couldn't even get a 4090 for less than 2k

[cyan ravine]

4090's are voltage locked so investing extra is meaningless unless you make the attempt to use it properly through overclocking

[weak flint]

didnt war pig get a 4090 for like 1.2k or something?

[cyan ravine]

I can't remember

only time I'd recommend anything more than the cheapest 4090 is if the 4090 that is cheapest is a pile of hot garbage like the palit gamerock

the pny's and zotac's we normally see are perfectly fine

[potent portal]

That would be 25% off, which I could see happening if you combine the right deals and promos on credit cards

Amazon has that $300 off with amazon credit card thing still I think

[weak flint]

with mastercard yeah

[weak flint]

yeah he got a gigabyte 4090 for $1000 just checked

[potent portal]

Dang 37.5% off msrp, not bad at all

[cyan ravine]

if that thing was $1000 it'd almost line up in price to perf with the $880 sapphire pulse XTX selling rn

[potent portal]

Speaking of poorly priced GPUs... You all saw the 4060 ti 16GB went down $50 right? Almost like it shouldn't have been that high to begin with

[cyan ravine]

as I keep telling everyone

still $100 too high

lmao

[potent portal]

Reg'lar 4060 ti is at $380, still too high I agree

[cyan ravine]

man the regular should be like $300-$320

lol

3060Ti was $280 at best buy

so I think my 4060Ti estimates are generous tbh

[potent portal]

Considering you can get a 7600 for $255, yeah even $300 is too much for that

[cyan ravine]

💀

anyway I'm out, have fun lads

[potent portal]

laterz

[cyan ravine]

@hot kite ping us if anything we suggested you're unsure or confused about

we're happy to help

[stray lance]

What’s a good uh place to get a pc build, currently I’m looking at build redux or honestly buying an Alienware prebuilt

[earnest olive]

those are probably the two worst possible options

what's your budget

[stray lance]

Oh HAHAHA my inexperience is showing, I’m too hesitant to build one myself and the build costs at microcenter seems hmm, idk, $200 for a build

[earnest olive]

don't believe build redux for a second when they say $75 build fee lol

[stray lance]

tower alone upwards of 3k, if I really need to can spend more

[earnest olive]

it's a lie

they say $75 build fee and then they mark up the hell out of the parts costs and hope you don't notice

they will happy charge you $1500 for a 4060 build that would take like $600 to match with a custom build

[stray lance]

looking at options I’m probably going with intel since I’m more familiar with them, not rly familiar with amd

[earnest olive]

does it matter

[stray lance]

Maybe 4080 with an i7

[earnest olive]

you're buying a prebuilt

the experience to you is the same

intel vs amd

you don't have to worry about which motherboard or ram to pick

it's a computer

[stray lance]

I’m not sure if a prebuilt is what I should go for since u said those 2 options are kinda meh

[earnest olive]

100% you won't be able to notice the difference using it

i mean

there are prebuilts out there that are not completely terrible

you just need to not buy from build redux or alienware lol

[stray lance]

Any suggestions? Or do I just buy parts and tinker with it myself

[earnest olive]

buying parts is always better if you're willing

but otherwise i can give you a suggestion in a few

friend just asked for a quick favor

[stray lance]

I’ve been a Mac user for as long as I can remember, switching to an actual pc now so I stop getting laughed at ahahah

[stray lance]

I’d appreciate that haha, ty

[earnest olive]

i just got one of my friends off of a macintosh foldable with a $300 budget build

feels good

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ta137kf4802-tempest-aqua/p/N82E16883360366 leaving this as a preliminary option while i look to see if there's one with a better case lol

nice price for the specs

[stray lance]

That looks nice wow, much cheaper than redux too

Well maybe not much but def lower price

[earnest olive]

yeah i mean the bar is on the floor with build redux

[stray lance]

Will there be any shipping damages

[earnest olive]

not sure how i can answer that for you

[stray lance]

That’s honestly one of my biggest worries, stuff getting bonked around from all the clips I see of Amazon or fedex throwing your shat around

vs going into a microcenter and buying it directly

[stray lance]

Another question, ddr4 or ddr5 ram, the difference probably won’t be noticeable by me at all

[earnest olive]

not like you have a choice in a prebuilt

just had a look at the prebuilt offerings on amazon

wow

that is

horrendous

so yeah i guess that one is just gonna be my recommendation then

[stray lance]

Buying tech from Amazon is, interesting hahaha

[earnest olive]

amazon is fine for parts

but the prebuilt offerings are...

well

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-pizza-gif-6074641

[stray lance]

https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-odax13-04/p/N82E16883630022

What about dis

[earnest olive]

$500 more for a brand that probably will not offer you any sort of after-sales support

if you want 32gb ddr5 and 2tb ssd you might as well upgrade the one i sent you

ram/ssd are very easy components to upgrade and it would cost you nowhere near $500

[stray lance]

https://www.newegg.com/msi-aegis-rs-13nug-425us/p/N82E16883151206

Saw this one too

[earnest olive]

treat MSI prebuilts like a cancerous growth

avoid them

[stray lance]

I don’t understand motherboards or anything else

[stray lance]

LMAOO noted

[stray lance]

It would be compatible with the motherboard n everything else there right? Probably a super dumb question I’m sorry

[earnest olive]

the four horsemen of the prebuilt apocalypse

dell with permanent thermal throttling and 150% upcharges

build redux marketing $75 build fee while in reality still tacking on 150% upcharges and relying on marketing with funny canadian man to get customers to trust their BS

msi imaging all of their prebuilts with a corrupt windows image that bsods every 20 minutes when you game

HP

[stray lance]

And uh let’s say I go forward with your recommendation, for that build what’s a reasonable monitor to pair with, I was thinking 4k 120hz or higher on the fps part

[earnest olive]

welp my friend seems to have fallen asleep in the middle of asking me for that favor

[stray lance]

Is the funny Canadian man linus

[earnest olive]

yes

4k120 is fine but i'm a 1440p fan myself

[stray lance]

LMAOO yea I saw his one review about redux

[earnest olive]

i also have a 13700k + 4080 but with 1440p165

[stray lance]

I’m too used to the 5k retina Mac display that I’ve been using for years

[earnest olive]

i mean

as long as it gets you off of a mac

there's nothing wrong with 4k120

i just prefer 1440p

i'm only getting 110 fps in cyberpunk with oced 4080 and frame gen + dlss

at 1440p

[stray lance]

Is it pushing your components? I think what I’m saying here is uh, I don’t want a monitor that can be driven by a lower spec pc

[earnest olive]

lol

[stray lance]

Sorta defeats the purpose of spending more on the tower

[earnest olive]

my monitor is not being maxed out by a bios modded and overclocked to the edge 4080

[stray lance]

Macs aren’t too bad but honestly for gaming they’re practically unplayable

[earnest olive]

all depends on what you play anyways

[stray lance]

valorant.

[earnest olive]

i

[stray lance]

don’t judge pls

LMAO

[earnest olive]

yeah you're gonna have the same experience with a $300 pc and a $3000 pc

i was pushing 1200 fps in valorant out of a 1660ti

you don't need a 4080 lol

[stray lance]

I’ve never been a big pc gamer due to using a Mac and having to run bootcamp or a VM

So a lot of the flashy pc games I simply haven’t touched

Figured if I’m gonna buy a pc let it be decent so I’m able to play other games and not have the tower melt itself

[earnest olive]

val is designed to run on the dell your grandma got for christmas 2005

ok that's a slight exaggeration

but very slight

[stray lance]

I sees

[earnest olive]

heck, i got league running 150 fps at 1080p on a $20 pc

[stray lance]

I’m also wanting to become a streamer possibly vtuber because facecam is effort

[earnest olive]

ft a dell office pc display adapter from 2010 as the gpu

[stray lance]

Im impressed.

[earnest olive]

meet josie

[stray lance]

Honestly I might settle for your recommendation, my brain can’t process all these different specs and parts

[earnest olive]

and her absolute beast of a dell graphics card

[stray lance]

Is that the

Where’s the case

[earnest olive]

that's so low power that the fan doesn't need to be on

[earnest olive]

the case is the piece of foam under her

please be kind. she is self conscious about her appearance

[stray lance]

LMAOO im sorry

[earnest olive]

she is trying her best.

[stray lance]

That’s what matters

!!

[earnest olive]

she can run valorant

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TzCHh3 if you wanted to upgrade to 32gb and 2tb, you could just buy these for $163 instead of $500

https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa137f480-2-eurus-aqua/p/N82E16883360394 you could also buy this one for the better case and upgrade the war crime of a cpu cooler they put in it

but a cooler upgrade is significantly more effort than RAM or SSD

so your call

RAM and SSD upgrade for a complete noob will probably take like 10-15 minutes tops

cooler upgrade for a complete noob could take 1-2 hours

[earnest olive]

i did get her a new fit

[stray lance]

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-azure2-0920-w-ne/p/3D5-000Z-00191

How about dis

[earnest olive]

an open bench table straight out of china with assembly instructions in chinese

[earnest olive]

nah

i checked everything on newegg

just stick to what i sent you

[stray lance]

okai will do

[stray lance]

A friend told me the i7 might be a tad bit slow, is that an issue or should I go for an i9

[earnest olive]

????????

[stray lance]

Don’t know if that’s overkill for a 4080

[earnest olive]

??????????????????

[stray lance]

LMAO IM A NOOB shush don’t judge

[earnest olive]

no im judging your friend not you

yeah that spaceship might be a tad bit slow i think you should invent FTL you'll need it for valorant

[stray lance]

bahaha

Oh I’m green now

[earnest olive]

glow up 💅

my friend woke up for long enough to give me the information i was missing and then passed out again immediately

[plucky timber]

@earnest olive send instructions

I can translate for you

[earnest olive]

chinese is my first language bro

😭

[plucky timber]

oh

[earnest olive]

does it not look built already

[plucky timber]

Wait you're Chinese????

[earnest olive]

bro have you seen my status for the last week

[plucky timber]

oh

I never knew

[earnest olive]

😭

[stray lance]

FELLOW CHINESE PERSON LETS GO