building-and-recc-chat

[mossy venture]

ok this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/trBj4M

cause kinda need an igpu to display lol

or that 13400f list changed to 13400

or the 7700 list

[fossil cedar]

id spend another like 10$ to get a focus 2 if theres budghet

oh wait already over budget

eh just go 770 then

[mossy venture]

for igpu build won't matter much but yeah the focus 2 would be nicer

[fossil cedar]

just nicer to build in

[wispy echo]

is Ryzen 5 3600 and 3060 12GB a good combo bc my friend wants to upgrade his GPU from 1660 super

[fossil cedar]

3060 unless going used is very poorly priced, you could get a rx 6700xt (3060ti performance) for that price

[mossy venture]

second what pato said

3060 12gb is almost never decently priced

[wispy echo]

its 270 euro

[mossy venture]

what country are you in?

[wispy echo]

poland

[mossy venture]

what sites are you looking at?

[wispy echo]

ceneo/morele.net/x-kom.pl

[mossy venture]

that seems to be decently priced actually from what I can tell

I'd look for a 6600xt/6650xt/6700/6700xt for a similar price though

if you can't find any of those for a similar price, then go for the 3060

[wispy echo]

max price of gpu my firend would be down to pay 340euro/1500 PLN

would 3060 TI be enough to play 1440p?

[mossy venture]

there's this https://www.ceneo.pl/131939100

definitely

I wouldn't go anything lower than 3060 ti or 6700xt for 1440p personally though

https://www.ceneo.pl/140957506

https://foxkomputer.pl/pl/p/PNY-Karta-graficzna-GeForce-RTX-3060-Ti-8GB-VERTO-DUAL-FAN-LHR/24038?ceneo&utm_source=ceneo&utm_medium=referral&ceneo_cid=b1935f84-7c3a-5156-2f47-2842d12cc06a

[wispy echo]

Ryzen 5 3600 and 3060 TI would be ok than?

[mossy venture]

yes

that was what I ran for a while

at 1440p the gpu will be the limiting factor actually

[wispy echo]

ok his brother is willing to get "scammed(joke)" and buy his old gpu

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB OC

but he has i5-4570

[mossy venture]

that's fine

the cpu will definitely limit the gpu in a lot of games, but they're still fine to run together

[wispy echo]

k thanks alot

:)

[heavy atlas]

hey guys i put my wifi card in but now that i try to connect to the wifi it says “no internet, secured” what do i do now?

[little osprey]

You are connected, but the connection isn't providing access to the Internet

[obsidian wigeon]

restart the router and pc

[potent portal]

Did you install drivers?

[heavy atlas]

with the usb?

@potent portal

[potent portal]

What USB? Did the WiFi card come with one that had drivers?

[heavy atlas]

idk

[potent portal]

Ok so if you didn't go and install the drivers you probably got default ones that don't work well

What wireless chipset did you end up with? Intel AX? That's been popular

[heavy atlas]

that’s the one

idk what it’s called

[potent portal]

Yep AX210

One sec

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19351/windows-10-and-windows-11-wi-fi-drivers-for-intel-wireless-adapters.html

If you can't access the net on your PC to download it, use your phone and copy the file over

[heavy atlas]

ok

thank you

i think it worked

i mean i got wifi now

[potent portal]

Sweet, happy to help

[icy geyser]

After selling my parts 3060 ti, 3200hmz or maybe its 3600mhz I don't remember 32gb ram and, a 5600x how much do you think the overall cost be to go to a 3080 (used) and the $400 bundle from micro center for 32gb DDR5 a 7700 and a good WiFi motherboard? I'm debating some upgrades.

[potent portal]

You could probably do it for a net cost of about $400-450 after taxes, shipping, etc.

[earnest olive]

3060ti: -$225
32gb ddr4: -$40
5600x: -$110

3080: $400
bundle: $400

$425

assuming pretty average prices, maybe you can get better deals

@icy geyser

also factor in tax on the mc bundle if you haven't already

[manic cloak]

500$ 3080ti from EVGA.. worth?

[potent portal]

New or used?

[manic cloak]

apparently used less than “15 hours” cause the guy has a 4090.

[potent portal]

I never believe that lol

I always assume it's been beaten to hell unless there's very detailed photos

[manic cloak]

@potent portal

Thing is

guy is supposedly from Tucson AZ, but has it listed in my state and Eau Claire?

[potent portal]

Oh hell no, I'm not dealing with a shipper scam

[manic cloak]

Ya no thanks, messaged him but otherwise

if he isn’t from my state

[leaden halo]

hi

[weary galleon]

*Minus (or plus to the negative value) ebay or PayPal g&s fees

[earnest olive]

I usually just sell local to avoid that

[weary galleon]

Yeah could do that

[wispy echo]

what would be best cpu + gpu for 100-140 euro?

[potent portal]

Ryzen 5600G

It's got an integrated GPU that's comparable to a GT 1030

Pair it with really fast memory since it's shared

[silent token]

can i get some help with a build i’m tryna do?

[potent portal]

Sure

[silent token]

Shared List https://newegg.io/5b2c742

is there a cheaper graphics card i could use with it?

and will all these parts fit in the case?

[potent portal]

Nothing cheaper without sacrificing performance

Do not under any circumstances get the EVGA W1 unless you like fire

[potent portal]

Do you need the 5.25" bay?

Better parts, same price https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fRGnTY

Specifically better memory, case, motherboard, and PSU

[wispy echo]

i ment cpu + mobo

for 100-140 euro

[potent portal]

Don't filter evade pls

[mossy venture]

4000c19 won't run on a 12400f, no?

It struggles with 3600 iirc

[potent portal]

It will in gear 2 if it can't in gear 1

[mossy venture]

Wouldn't 3200c16 be better in g1 than 4000c19 in g2?

[potent portal]

Debatable, it'll overclock a lot better for only $1 more than the 3200

[potent portal]

You'll be looking at the used market in that price range, there's nothing new that fits that budget except maybe a pentium dual core that I wouldn't wish on an office PC

This is about the best that can be done, not including shipping etc https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/b8Pgxs

[icy geyser]

Oh I already did, I walked into micro center ready to spend $400 on the budle and a little more for tax and a CPU cooler and such...a week and a half ago I saw this at $500 good deal and I almost got it but said na I'll wait, I'll see what other websites have for price and see what Intel is priced at, then $400 and I went to pick up the deal a few days after it was $400 and I kid you not I'll email the reseat but I ended up spending $308 after all the warnaty and cooler and everything, maybe he didn't even scan something idk?

[potent portal]

Wow that's awesome, basically only paid for the CPU

[icy geyser]

If I tried it could be $250 for the GPU and $130 for the CPU, plus I have a motherboard to sell in the combo and I might upgrade everything at once and buy a GPU selling the CPU, GPU, ram and motherboard all in one sale instead of the GPU separate or all things separate. All told it will prob be closer to $300 and if I'm lucky that will be after shipping and eBay fees.

[icy geyser]

Yeah and the motherboard comes with 4 ram slots a USB C slot and WiFi built in, sure you can be a cheap board that is expensive and they cheaped out on stuff making the board not quality or worth buying but this is micro center and 9 times out of 10 that's not the case so I got a really really amazing deal.

[potent portal]

Oh I know what it is, Microcenter lets you stack deals and they have a couple new customer promotions going

So even though you're already getting a huge bundle discount, the new customer discount stacks

[icy geyser]

Half the reason I'm upgrading my GPU is because 8gb vram I run out of when doing A.I. image creation not enough to crash but still and half because I want to finally have 100% better a system then my brother not partially since he has almost always been the one with the better system. Does going to a 3080 10gb make sense?

[potent portal]

No 10GB still isn't enough. It's only enough for the games that tried and failed to optimize for 8GB like halo infinite

AI wants as much as you can give it

Plus the 12GB model 3080 is actually stronger than the 10GB, not just more memory

[icy geyser]

Yesterday I saw the bundle on their website, today I went there and didn't see it, asked and they said they still had it guy pulled up the stuff individually and circled some stuff on the things he printed out, I check out and its $308 after CPU cooler and warranty. I've been a customer for a while and spent a lot so idk maybe its just points I've saved up or something idk all I know is great deal.

[icy geyser]

Oh, that's why its almost $200 more. Idk if I could afford that though?

[potent portal]

200 more?! Where are you looking?

[icy geyser]

eBay.

[potent portal]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145189904746

[icy geyser]

I was going to buy and sell off that platform but maybe I buy off a different one? I'd just have to bring my PC and test the GPU first since no buyer perfection or at least not as much buy a long shot.

[silent token]

gear two?

[potent portal]

It's just a different operating mode for the memory controller. It adds a little latency compared to gear 1 but faster memory compensates for that, and you can try to overclock if you want to get even better results.

Or just get a kit of 3600 c18 if you don't want to bother

It was only a dollar more so I put it on lol

[icy geyser]

Na my case has bad airflow I don't mess with over clocking.

[potent portal]

Two different conversations lol

[icy geyser]

Wait that's not refiring to me?

[potent portal]

This happens a lot

[icy geyser]

Right

[potent portal]

Besides you can overclock and have things end up faster AND cooler running, that's often the goal tbh

[icy geyser]

All I've heard is overclock and run better, maybe? But also hotter or don't overclock though I haven't looked into it in a long while so idk?

Does 3060 ti to 3080 12gb even make sense?

[potent portal]

If you reduce the voltage then it'll use less wattage (basic maths, W=V x A) and therefore it runs cooler

Most of the time the factory settings for voltage are dialed WAY higher than you actually need. I'm running an undervolt on my processor and still adding 200MHz boost.

[potent portal]

Yes you're basically going from a 1440p to a 4k GPU, it's a huge jump

Just for some rough numbers (ignore the fps that's never accurate, often it seems intentionally misleading) https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3080-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3060-Ti/4080vs4090

You'd see at least a 50% bump in overall performance, probably more

[icy geyser]

Or in my case a higher end 144hz 1080p GPU? I should probably also go 1440p high refresh rate but less I'm finding that for under $200 I'm not doing that and even then idk so maybe I wait on the GPU upgrade?

The 144hz 1080 is what I use my 3060 ti for.

[potent portal]

If you're playing on 1080p max settings your 3060 ti will hold back the new 7700 you got in some games still

With a GPU upgrade you'll be able to not only hit that 144 fps to match the refresh rate but you can probably get the 1% low fps at or above the refresh rate so it's going to seem MUCH smoother

A quick tune on the memory using standardized settings and you'll be even better off

[icy geyser]

I just got that because I saw it and was like lol less then 200 for an upgrade after I sell my stuff that's a good deal...I might stream with the CPU or see if the CPU can help video edit. 1080 144 shouldn't be held bad by the CPU its not like I'm going full on real competitive 100% and doing 240hz or 300hz or something.

[potent portal]

The CPU is going to be the thing working harder at 1080p normally, but add enough VFX like ray tracing and you'll wish you had the higher end GPU

With my 3080 ti I have to use DLSS to render in 1080p in some games to get the higher graphics settings running smooth

[icy geyser]

But like the 3060 ti is the most powerful GPU I'd run at 1080p under 240hz and I'd be upgrading to a 3080, I should get 1440p 144 right? That's expensive at least defiantly combined with everything else I'd be buying.

[icy geyser]

I don't need max settings, mix if high and medium is fine for me no need for all high settings and especially ultra.

[potent portal]

Ideally you'd get 1440p yes but there's a lot more benefits to the 3080 than you're realizing. There's at least 5 games I know of that will overload your 8GB of VRAM at 1080p high or ultra, with or without RT on.

One of them is the very popular Halo Infinite. After playing for a little bit, 30-40 minutes, you start to see textures unloading and going into low detail mode because of the full VRAM.

If you want to wait a bit for the upgrade, that's fine. But don't wait too long because games like that are only getting more common. I think I recently saw a beta game that required 10GB VRAM minimum for 1080p high settings, it won't run on 8GB.

[icy geyser]

So your saying its not stupid to upgrade to a 3080 and stay at 1080p 144hz? Also saying going from a 3060 ti to a 3080 is worth it?

[potent portal]

Yes and yes

[icy geyser]

Ah I've seen people on other servers saying that, not anyone saying both but a fair amount saying I should upgrade to 1440p or a 3060 ti to 3080 is not worth it.

[potent portal]

1080p isn't ideal for that GPU but it's totally still going to be a significant upgrade

Especially looking to the near future

[weak flint]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/497150397358800908/1135700887440994314/image.png?width=744&height=468

is this normal?

i never do ssd speed tests

this is an sn770

[earnest olive]

looks slow

[weak flint]

yeah

im watvhing a youtune video and he gets the advertised speeds

[icy geyser]

That and I can say whatever if I was only gaming but I game and run A.I. so that's why I'm not getting a 3070 or 3070 ti. Someone already bought the 3080 for $400 you linked think I'll snag one at that price outside of a lucky auction?

[earnest olive]

did you check settings > nvme ssd

[weak flint]

is this a faulty ssd?

[weak flint]

yes

[earnest olive]

what board do you have

[weak flint]

i literally only have this currently

[potent portal]

You should be closer to 5000 on that test, something's wrong

[icy geyser]

Wait no that was also $500.

[weak flint]

b650m mortar

[earnest olive]

which slot did you use

[weak flint]

1st

[earnest olive]

oh

both slots are the same anyways

4 4.0 cpu lanes

hm

[weak flint]

i mean do slots make a difference nowadays?

[earnest olive]

have you installed amd chipset drivers

[earnest olive]

yes

[weak flint]

yes installed all drivers

[earnest olive]

my slot 1 is 4 times faster than my slot 3

[weak flint]

bruh what

[potent portal]

5.0 vs 3.0?

[icy geyser]

$100-200 for my upgrade of the CPU ram and motherboard, 300 for my GPU upgrade so $400-500 for a better GPU and CPU, can't do better then that? @potent portal

[earnest olive]

yep

[potent portal]

Or 4.0 x4 vs 3.0 x2

[weak flint]

should i install it again?

to be sure

[earnest olive]

slot 1 is 5.0 x4 from cpu, slot 2 is 4.0 x4 from cpu, slot 3 is 3.0 x4 from cpu, slot 4 is 4.0 x4 from chipset

[earnest olive]

check which generation it's running at

you can see it in CDI

[weak flint]

lemme install

[earnest olive]

pcie 1.0 x4...

what the heck

[weak flint]

...

[earnest olive]

check bios settings maybe

manually set m.2 slots to gen 4

if it doesn't work try the other slot

[weak flint]

uhm what should i check in bios

[earnest olive]

could be defective board

just look for the m.2 settings

[weak flint]

oh k

[earnest olive]

i don't have msi b650, might be different from my msi z690

there's search anyways

[weak flint]

yeah

[earnest olive]

why on earth is it running gen 1 lmao

that's so weird

[potent portal]

That's a very nice upgrade for that net cost yeah

I've seen 3090s go for $500 but that's rare

[earnest olive]

all this sell to upgrade talk made me realize

[potent portal]

Watch for deals

[earnest olive]

i bought my 4080 for less than i sold my 3090 for

free upgrade i guess

just took a few months detour to a 1660ti lmao

[icy geyser]

I mean it is but its also a lot for me, plus I'm being talked into a 3080 ti since its $600 vs $500 for the 3080 12gb.

[weak flint]

pov me being a moron

[potent portal]

I bought my 3080 ti for half of what I sold my 3090 for, and it performs better lol

[icy geyser]

Very

[weak flint]

I was like trying to oc my ram went into pcie sub sys and messed it up

woopsyy

[potent portal]

The 3080 ti isn't worth it

[earnest olive]

3080 12gb vs 3080ti is almost the same thing

[icy geyser]

I'm saying its $500 from eBay if I bought and sold my stuff off there, think I can do better if I buy off a different marketplace?

[earnest olive]

bro tried to downgrade his ssd to give the bandwidth to the ram 💀

[potent portal]

Maybe if you deal local on facebook market or something

[earnest olive]

i like to sell on FBM or HWS

[icy geyser]

I thought the 3080 ti was basically a 3090 so that it be a good amount better then a 3080 12gb?

[potent portal]

hws is worth a sub to watch with a 3080 keyword

[earnest olive]

the 3080ti is basically a 3090

the 3080 12gb is basically a 3080ti

[icy geyser]

Should I make an account I've never like Facebook.

[earnest olive]

you don't have to like facebook lol

[icy geyser]

If that's the case I'll make sure of that.

[earnest olive]

just make an account and only use it for marketplace

[icy geyser]

I might if you think I'll save like $100 on the GPU?

[weak flint]

thnx orange

[earnest olive]

500 is a fair price for a 3080 12gb but 600 is overpriced for a 3080ti

honestly 500 might be a little high for 3080 12gb

did a buying post on hws recently and i was getting offered 3080 10gbs for like 350

[icy geyser]

Really, people on a different server are saying a 3080 ti is basically $100 more and so worth it.

[earnest olive]

if you want to listen to them go listen to them lol

[icy geyser]

Yeah but that's 10gb I'm not looking at those.

[earnest olive]

not worth my time to argue about it when you can just google the numbers

[potent portal]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4282vs4409vs4284vs4601/GeForce-RTX-3080-vs-GeForce-RTX-3080-Ti-vs-GeForce-RTX-3090-vs-GeForce-RTX-3080-12GB

[icy geyser]

I'll look at reviews and benchmarks

[earnest olive]

you're being told this by a 3080ti owner and a 3090 owner that our cards aren't worth it lol

[potent portal]

It's like a 5% difference between the 3080 12GB and 3090

[little osprey]

Nah ong, just buy a 4090 and you don't need to worry bout a thing

[earnest olive]

i got my 4080 for 765 and it beats a 3080ti by 50%, do you really want to pay 600 for a 3080ti?

[cyan ravine]

3090 holds some water for a higher price because it's technically a titan card

[earnest olive]

3090 is worth more but not because of gaming

[potent portal]

Yeah especially with AI processing being a thing you can do at home now

[earnest olive]

it's AI people and 3d artists paying those premiums for the 24gb

[cyan ravine]

But yeah, 500 for a 3080 12gb sounds good enough for any other situation

Otherwise get a 6800XT/6950XT

[earnest olive]

gamer paying extra for a 3090 is pointless

[potent portal]

He did mention doing AI work before, and cuda goes hard on that

[icy geyser]

Somehow I doubt its 50% better and the new market for GPUs is not called bad?

[earnest olive]

i didn't buy mine for gaming either

[earnest olive]

bro...

literally google numbers

it's not that hard

i promise

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/40395927 here's my 4080 after i spent like 20 minutes tuning it

[potent portal]

Compared to my 3080 ti that gets about 21k tuned

[cyan ravine]

It's quite literally near 50%

[cyan ravine]

Then 4090 beats the 4080 by almost 25%

[earnest olive]

43.6% over my XOC VBIOS 600W 3090

it's gonna be 50% over a pedestrian 3080ti lol

[cyan ravine]

That said, this is gaming

In workstation scenarios the gaps are both shorter and wider

[icy geyser]

That has a 3080 ti beating a 3090?

[earnest olive]

the cards are so similar that it doesn't matter

that's the entire point

[cyan ravine]

3080ti and 3090 are almost identical bar 2% cores and 12gb vram

[earnest olive]

i can say that the 4080 is definitely beating the 3090 by much more than 50% in my main use case

maybe more like 150%

[cyan ravine]

Isn't your main use case genshin lmao

[potent portal]

Yes, because at stock settings the 3090 and 3080 ti are both going to be power limited. The 3080 ti has fewer VRAM modules to eat up power, so more power for the core.

[earnest olive]

no

[icy geyser]

Alright I'll try to get a 3080 for under $500 maybe $400-450? That's very possible off Facebook marketplace?

[earnest olive]

well main use case for the 4080

path tracing memes

[icy geyser]

I guess?

[earnest olive]

the 3090 was not having fun with it

probably have better luck on HWS than FBM tbh

[potent portal]

Don't guess I can show you legit numbers from my 3090 vs my 3080 ti, my 3080 ti beats it by 5%

[cyan ravine]

Some 3080 Ti's keep up with the kingpin cards

[icy geyser]

OK I believe you, I'll just look for a 3080 12gb if I can get it under $500 I can get it closer to $400 off Facebook marketplace right?

[cyan ravine]

It just depends on luck, silicon and board design

[earnest olive]

bruh, i forgot to upload results from my better 3080

[cyan ravine]

Under 500 fot a 3080 12gb is decent, I'd say 450 is excellent

[earnest olive]

i only have my terrible 3080 on here

[icy geyser]

The only problem with a 3080 off market place is the buyer protection vs eBay?

[earnest olive]

don't buy anything shipped on facebook

[cyan ravine]

You use paypal goods and services

[earnest olive]

do local deals and bring your pc to test it on site

[cyan ravine]

Paypal G&S is like ebay buyer protection for other places

[earnest olive]

HWS will have more reliable buyer protection if you want shipped stuff

[cyan ravine]

And also this^ always verify the legitimacy

[earnest olive]

$30 is the max i'm willing to buy anything shipped for on facebook

[icy geyser]

And what do I power it with, all I'll see is fan spins less I bring a monitor and then boot into windows and that's a lot sometimes I can't just do that.

[icy geyser]

I'll just maybe try a bid on eBay?

[potent portal]

Scratch that 10% https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/27250958/spy/20104822
My 3090 was a potato though

[icy geyser]

I don't have a monitor to bring with me.

[earnest olive]

wow

[cyan ravine]

If you can see the pc boots with it and you can physically see serial numbers you're 99% of the way there tbh

[earnest olive]

your 3090 was almost as bad as my really bad 3080

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/20104822/spy/23654819

that's... really sad

i can see why you replaced it with a 3080ti lol

i also replaced this 3080 just because it sucked so bad

[earnest olive]

ig just go get shipped stuff from HWS/ebay then

if you buy used parts often enough, a $50 testing monitor quickly pays for itself

[potent portal]

Yeah your 3080 was bad but was it this bad? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903768190717411339/943988484711014480/20220217_135227.jpg

[icy geyser]

All I'll see is fans spin and that's it.

[potent portal]

idfk how I place 65th out of 57

[icy geyser]

Yeah, though I don't so it doesn't.

[cyan ravine]

You can see the post code go to boot meaning there's no immediate problems

[earnest olive]

(it pays for itself when you buy 3 used parts)

(sometimes 1-2)

[earnest olive]

ngl i didn't even sub the 3080

felt like it wasn't worth it

oh they fixed this

when i subbed this it was 64th out of 59 lol

[cyan ravine]

Damn imagine being lower than last place

Lmao

[earnest olive]

at least i finally have a gpu to be proud of

rank 1 and 2 are beating me because of cpu lol

[cyan ravine]

They shoulda sent you a participation certificate

[potent portal]

Yeah that 4080 is a monster

[earnest olive]

i have rank 1 graphics score

[icy geyser]

HWS? eBay has them for $500 I'll see if I can find a deal for less then that on a bid or a lucky post and snag it then the upgrade be around $400 in total.

[icy geyser]

Like I said I don't have a monitor

Well of anyone sees a post for 3080 closer to $400 then $500 so I can be definitely closer $400 for the whole package upgrade then $500 let me know.

[cyan ravine]

Post code is on a motherboard itself. You don't need a monitor

[lone flame]

this is probably a weird question but how am I able to display temps/fps and other info on the corner of my screen? Whenever I watch a YouTuber build a new build when they benchmark it and test it, they always have that same green and yellow info screen in the corner displaying all that info

[obsidian wigeon]

they use msi afterburner with rtss

[lone flame]

Just to be clear, like this? I should of gave a picture to begin with, I’m assuming that’s just something I can download?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes

You download msi afterburner

And install it with rtss ticked too

It comes with rtss that you can install thru afterburner too

https://youtu.be/sbh5O4abiwY

[icy geyser]

Right, still I'll try somewhere with buyer protection first.

[late elm]

Thinking of a new build. Trying to decide if AMD or Intel for the processor. Is there a difference really?

[mossy venture]

No, just depends on performance tier/budget you're looking at

[little osprey]

choose the right brand

[mossy venture]

It does not make a difference

[little osprey]

it does not performance wise

but it hurts my fellings if you choose the wrong one

[late elm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ob1itusrex75/saved/jZ7FP6

Would anyone be willing to critique the build? The budget is $1500

[obsidian wigeon]

What will this pc be used for?

[mossy venture]

If you're gaming this is not great

[obsidian wigeon]

If gaming yeah that's frankly bad

HDDs are dead slow if you want to run os+games on it

[late elm]

Won't lie. Pretty illiterate here. I'll he using it for gaming as well as college

[mossy venture]

For a bit over budget this would be a lot better, but one sec I'm gonna make a cheaper one too https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MgKKHG

For cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFpzKX

Also has 1tb more storage

7600 is a lot better in gaming than the 5900x

[late elm]

I mean that's fine. I already have the power supply so it's OK. But how is the micro ATX? I'm jot sure the difference?

[little osprey]

I was going to say

[obsidian wigeon]

hm, how's the 300d airflow costs?

3000d

[mossy venture]

Not a clue

Matx is just a bit smaller than an atx mid tower

[little osprey]

to try the 7600 instead of the 5900x

[obsidian wigeon]

3000d airflow is their newest release

[mossy venture]

There's plenty of other options too

[little osprey]

glad you chose the right one

[obsidian wigeon]

7600 is faster in gaming than 5900x by a lot

[late elm]

[obsidian wigeon]

and for college, you don't need that many cores if it's simpler work

[little osprey]

zen4 is wild dawg

[mossy venture]

I mean, 5600 is a lot faster in gaming than 3900x

[weary galleon]

Better to choose the newer chipset for a new build as well

[late elm]

It's IT. Not sure if that will matter but just in case

[obsidian wigeon]

or you can get a cheaper gpu to get 7800x3d

[little osprey]

the jump you get from architecture to architecture in amd

[obsidian wigeon]

ah it, yeah no

just 7600 is perfectly fine

[little osprey]

is so wild

[late elm]

You guys are going to fast.

[little osprey]

[mossy venture]

It's not much different from intel

[obsidian wigeon]

for your use case two of the lists bacca sent are great

[mossy venture]

13600k beats 12900k in gaming

Same with 12600k to 11900k

[little osprey]

hmm aight

[obsidian wigeon]

can't go wrong with either

[weary galleon]

7600 will be good for that

[mossy venture]

Not very true with 11600k to 10900k idt

[little osprey]

for college, unless you are going on a 3D bachelor

or smth like that

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

like cs

[potent portal]

*in gaming

[little osprey]

that requires a lot of computational graphic power

[late elm]

I'm not sure if there will be 3d

[little osprey]

nah, in cs you can just have a laptop

and you will be fine with an igpu

[obsidian wigeon]

fair nuff it's just code

[little osprey]

you don't really have heavy tasks tho

[late elm]

But what about the gaming part? I play a lot of bdo which ik takes a lot graphics wise

[obsidian wigeon]

IF there is 3d work included

4070ti is your route

[mossy venture]

6950xt is equivelant to the 3090 ti in gaming

[potent portal]

Hey if you're compiling code on the 7600 you can grab a coffee while you wait

[mossy venture]

7900xtx bit better than 4080 in gaming

[little osprey]

that's a W in my book

[mossy venture]

Forcible 30 minute break

[little osprey]

nah not even that

I was compiling a whole VR game in a i5 from 8th gen

and it took 40mins

[late elm]

So um....no idea if we are talking about graphics or processing now. I believe it's graphics

[little osprey]

and it was unity

[potent portal]

Chromium takes 82 minutes to compile on the 7600X

[mossy venture]

6950xt is the gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

Which exact IT path are you going down?

[little osprey]

dawg what

[mossy venture]

It's plenty to run any game currently out at high settings 1440p easily

[little osprey]

this

[obsidian wigeon]

If it's IT support, then nah you won't need more than 6 cores

[mossy venture]

The 7900xtx is the other gpu, it's better than the 6950xt

It's about comparable to a 4080

[little osprey]

IT support you normally will connect to a server and have everything running there

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm right

[mossy venture]

It will run any game at ultra settings 1440p 120fps+ easily or 4k high/ultra 120fps pretty often

[late elm]

Haven't fully decided yet but might be support. Lots of factors.

[mossy venture]

Might have issues very very rarely in some games getting 120 fps at 4k

[little osprey]

what are you taking in college rn?

[obsidian wigeon]

Once you're certain we can make an exact recommendation

[mossy venture]

Yall can do this I'm out I'm tired

[little osprey]

I'm running fh5 at 100/110fps with everything at max

[late elm]

Nothing. My current build has a dying ram but I will just build a whole new one bc this pc is 4 years old

[little osprey]

and with rtx

[late elm]

Goodnight

[little osprey]

[late elm]

Is there a recap somewhere? Not sure which of which I should go with

[obsidian wigeon]

One is faster graphics, less storage

Another is slower graphics, more storage

[little osprey]

yeah

also

[potent portal]

If you're not planning on doing design or programming you can choose the options with a stronger GPU. Even the basic programming courses with most IT programs don't have too much code compiling to worry about.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

one has more future proof

[late elm]

But if I don't like the storage I can upgrade. Which one is the faster?

[little osprey]

sure

you can upgrade whatever you want

[potent portal]

That's the beauty of PC

[late elm]

Probably not designed but coding is the part

[little osprey]

ong

[little osprey]

then don't worry about it tbh

like, even compiling code

you should take breaks when coing

[potent portal]

If coding isn't the focus of the degree then you don't need to worry, I compiled my course work on a dual core laptop

[late elm]

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I was asking which 1 is the faster one? I don't mind if it's more but I just would like the better one and I'll look at the storage

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MgKKHG

this one that bacca sent

[late elm]

That's hot and thankies

[potent portal]

This one has the highest performance

[late elm]

Thank you. Sorry I'm so illiterate here. I need to look more into specs to understand them

[little osprey]

higher wattage aswell , so when bro wants to change anything he might not need to worry too much about it

• modulor psu

[late elm]

Wait wait. Does the top one not need a cpu cooler?

Or does it come with it? I feel like I jumped the gun here

[potent portal]

The 7600 comes with one

[late elm]

Figured. Thankies

[little osprey]

such a scam

the 7600 comes with but the 7700x doesn't

tbf I was going to use another one anyway

but still a scam

[potent portal]

Nah the scam is the 7600 comes with one, the 7600X doesn't, and they're the same price

[little osprey]

is it the entire X lineage that doesn't come with??

[obsidian wigeon]

all X has no cooler for 7000

[little osprey]

that's wild

[obsidian wigeon]

the boxes are different

[little osprey]

bro answering me before I even asked

[obsidian wigeon]

they're much flatter so ya

[little osprey]

bro knows too much

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[little osprey]

[obsidian wigeon]

not worth gettin unless the x is cheaper enough

[potent portal]

Or if you already planned on getting a cooler/carrying one forward

[late elm]

Ok so now question. Why 5 and not 7 or 9 for the cpu?

[obsidian wigeon]

they're just marketing numbers

[little osprey]

but higher clock speed 👉 👈

[obsidian wigeon]

you don't need "the best" to have a very good experience

[late elm]

Tas true

[potent portal]

CPU doesn't affect FPS much though as long as it's powerful enough

[jagged ember]

Good questions though

[obsidian wigeon]

because realistically, going above 8 cores for gaming is pointless at the moment

[little osprey]

depends on the game but yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

it really shows with 7800x3d being the fastest gaming cpu despite having 8 cores

[late elm]

Is a core the number we were talking about. Ie the 5 7 or 9?

[little osprey]

most of the games I play are mostly cpu driven

just learnt

[obsidian wigeon]

modern games loves cache, and the 3d cache cpus has a lot of it

[potent portal]

Yeah I should also specify "above 1080p"

[obsidian wigeon]

no, just core count

[little osprey]

nah, why you roasting me maaan

[obsidian wigeon]

ryzen 5 7600 in this instance has 6 cores

[potent portal]

I'm not lol, CPU matters more in lower resolutions

[obsidian wigeon]

ryzen 7 7700x for example has 8

[little osprey]

a 1440p monitor is 1k$

[little osprey]

nah, I'm just playing

[late elm]

Would you like a hug?

[little osprey]

honestly, yes

[late elm]

[little osprey]

[obsidian wigeon]

tfw i know a lot yet i haven't built a pc ever in my life

[late elm]

Ok. I'm going to go learn some terminology to not embarrass myself again here. Thank you all so much for your help

[little osprey]

I've built a ton, even destroyed some

well, not a ton

[obsidian wigeon]

see ya

[little osprey]

more like 5 or 6

[obsidian wigeon]

The most I did was like

Reseat gpu and ram

[little osprey]

good luuck

[obsidian wigeon]

But laptops, hooh

I took apart many

Repasted a few

[little osprey]

I had an entire class just to pc building

and pc maintenance

and OS

and all the different parts

[little osprey]

I destroyed my ps4

(lying cuz it was already dead)

[late elm]

Question. What if I want to stream as well. Would this build be able to or should somethings be changed as well. I also don't know of this makes a difference but vtubing

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MgKKHG

[potent portal]

It'll be just fine for streaming

[late elm]

[little osprey]

if anything get a capture card

but you'll be fine either way

[manic cloak]

a used 6800xt for 400$ (gigabyte aorus) is an average price right?

[potent portal]

Yeah that's about right

[manic cloak]

also that 500$ 3080ti was a scam

they had listings all over the states

from hawaii to NY 💀💀

[potent portal]

Yeah I figured

Shipper scams are pretty common, "send the money, I gave you tracking info" 💀

[manic cloak]

There’s some supposed ignorant seller who’s trying to sell his whole system for 2000$ w/o listing specs, only saying he had a 6800xy

amd reference model btw

and i’m gonna try to trade my 6650xt + cash for it

[potent portal]

Sounds like a really bad deal in disguise

[manic cloak]

not only can he sell the system with a gpu, he gets cash tbh

[potent portal]

Only a fool would spend 2k on a computer without even knowing what's in it, you can get a brand new high end prebuilt for that

[manic cloak]

the person is somewhat legit too

some grandkid or son selling on the page, cause there’s a 4.6 average rating out of 15, with home items like rollerblades and etc on sale too

and the profile is under Margaret

unless margaret is heavily gaming

these are the other images btw.

[potent portal]

It's almost like those are intentionally not showing anything useful

You can't even tell what chipset it's using

2k literally gets you a 7900 XT PC https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0012-005G3?Item=9SIADFRJXK4564

Not 100% sure but that looks like the B550 Tomahawk

So ryzen 3000 or 5000

[manic cloak]

@potent portal is it a micro or an atx?

the board.

[potent portal]

ATX

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3Mxbt6/msi-mag-b550-tomahawk-atx-am4-motherboard-mag-b550-tomahawk

its this board.

[potent portal]

Yep just as I thought

[manic cloak]

how much ram, what cpu, who knows.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/627858/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16gb-(2-x-8gb)-ddr4-3600-pc4-28800-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-bl2k8g36c16u4bl-black

that's his ram, who knows how much, and what speeds.

[upper rock]

Hi there, is there any machines that can dynamically increase the number of cores based on power / thermal consumption

[cyan ravine]

Uh...

Not sure why you'd want this

[fossil cedar]

Idle cores barely draw any power so there'd be no reason to dynamically change the number of cores, all they'd be doing is putting them in a hibernation state anyway, which is basically what happens at idle with sleep states anyway

@upper rock ^

[fossil cedar]

So TLDR: just get a normal cpu, what is your use case? And budget and country?

[upper rock]

to run blockchain node

havent thought about the budget yet

[cyan ravine]

Ah

The buzzword "ASIC" comes to mind if you can think big

As far as I know you can run pretty simple consumer cpu's depending on the type of blockchain

[fossil cedar]

"Running Blockchain" hasn't been profitable unless you're buying an ASIC for about over a year, ie you're looking at like at least a 20k investment and then the hoards of electric you'll be using too, would highly not recommend

[cyan ravine]

Like if it's all gpu focused - as little as a 4 core can be good for a LOT of gpus

I'm not really a fly on the wall to a lot of that stuff tho, my knowledge is very limited

We normally do more regular stuff around here, like gaming pc's workstation pc's virtual machines etc

If you ask me an answer for your original question though

The cpu has microcode that will do this on it's own

Whether it spreads the load over multiple cores or prioritises based on a single thread load

It's smart enough that it will do that dynamically, most of all cpus of the modern day do so

If you wanted to split the cores up you could run virtual systems, but the base overhead may cost more than normal depending on the number of iterations

I hope that's a fairly straightforward answer for ya @upper rock

[upper rock]

yes that helps, thanks!!

[icy geyser]

I just found what might be an amazing offer for a 3080 12gb and I might even make an offer before I head to work if I can get ready in time or when I get back if they are not sold out. Unfortunately the seller does not accept returns, if I have enough time after I finish getting ready for work with enough time to respond, can anyone help me figure out if this 3080 will fit in my case and or if I need a new PSU?

[weary galleon]

We'll need to know your PSU, case, and the gpu model

[fossil cedar]

Also what's the price? Honestly if it's not under like $400 /€450 it's not a very good price, and not accepting returns is a bit sus considering that could mean you might not able to get a refund if its broke

[wispy echo]

will AMD MSI B450 TOMAHAWK will run Ryzen 7 5800X3D without any problems after bios update?

[potent portal]

It'll work just fine. Your only concern with that CPU is the heat, you need a good cooler.

[fading acorn]

my uni fans have different color white. why is this?

[icy geyser]

I can get my PSU wattage, the GPU model but I don't know the case model.

[lone flame]

On my old prebuilt, I am trying to take out the gpu to dust it very good since I never did before, reseat it, update drivers and everything before I give it to my sibling since I built my own a a few weeks ago and it got stuck? Part of it came out of the motherboard but the other isn’t

Pictures kinda of suck ik :/

I’ve tried using force but I just feel like I might bend the connectors moreso than I have already

[frigid night]

Did you press back the tab holding in the GPU?

Yeah it looks like it. Just wiggle it back and forth slightly while pulling out. Don't wiggle up and down.

Just be gentle. You are gonna want to get it fully out before trying to reseat it.

[lone flame]

Yes that’s how I was able to get the left side out in the first place

[dreamy mesa]

Hey guys, I purchased the ABS Stratos Aqua High Performance Gaming PC - Intel i7 13700KF - GeForce RTX 4070 Ti - 16GB DDR5 5600MHz - 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD - SA13700KF4070TI-2. I can't find how to control the fan speed and RGB. On seeing the reviews on newegg, other users mentioned about a remote. I didn't receive one. Any suggestions?

[lone flame]

I think fan speed you can control in the bios

[dreamy mesa]

Any ideas for RGB?

[lone flame]

Is there a button on the case for it?

[dreamy mesa]

No it doesn't

Case: ABS Stratos S200 Obsidian Black

[lone flame]

Still stuck

[lone flame]

I think you can try looking at your motherboards software or using another app

I don’t know the specifics though

there’s smarter people in here than me who would know

[dreamy mesa]

thanks, this worked!

[lone flame]

@obsidian wigeon would you know

it’s still stuck

[potent portal]

Did you press that tab here all the way down so it releases

[lone flame]

Yes that’s how I got the left side out in the first place

The right side is like stuck in there still for some reason

It looks like the tab is still fully down

[potent portal]

No video cables plugged in?

[lone flame]

Nope

[potent portal]

All I can really suggest then is to get as much out as you can and try to work it out. If the clip comes off, oh well. It's not that important.

[lone flame]

I’ve used like way too much force than I’m comfortable with and it still hasn’t budged

[potent portal]

Maybe push it back into the slot and try to get it out again from step 1

[lone flame]

I tried that and couldn’t get it

I might try again though

[potent portal]

Then if that clip really is all the way released it's probably just broken, it's rare but it happens

Oh right, some of the older design clips you need to press upward and hold while you pull the GPU. Maybe that's what's going on.

[lone flame]

When I first pulled it out I pushed down and it seemed to work but I’ll try that

Okay I got it

Apparently there were two tabs

One was like under the card

I saw it with my flashlight, I had to get it with a screwdriver

[south cliff]

Is trading in my 11 pro max for s22 ultra plus I give about 200 dollars a good trade

[dark tartan]

Apologies if this is not the right place to ask. What do anyone think of AMD Ryzen vs Intel whe it comes to video animation, editing, graphics design etc. My primary software are the adobe collections in addition to popular video/animation software out there. Please I need advice. Also what is the minimum system I should be going for.(budget-wise)

[potent portal]

Honestly it doesn't matter much right now, AMD and Intel are neck and neck for the most part outside of gaming. The biggest difference is going to be Intel requires much more power to do the same work in the same time in general.

[south cliff]

.

[lone flame]

bro no way my gpu drivers are broken again

[obsidian wigeon]

did you update to latest?

[lone flame]

no

[dark tartan]

So you are saying I should be okay. I have never used AMD before that is why I am asking

[little osprey]

What about gaming

[potent portal]

Gaming is no contest, the 7800X3D beats the 13900K in most popular games for hundreds less cost

[potent portal]

Yes AMD is currently as good or better than Intel, depending on specific tasks

[little osprey]

The amd moment

[fiery sable]

Hey so I’m just wondering how this build looks? I’m building a pc for a customer and the only requirements they had were the case, either a Ryzen 7 or a Intel I7 cpu, a atx mobo w/WiFi, ram sticks with rgb, and a aio all under 1k or around 1k

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JVwj4M

Oh they also wanted the gpu to be atleast a 3060

They’ll be using the computer more as a workstation for college but want to be able to game with no problems

[potent portal]

Oh god no not that AIO, anything but that one

The pump often dies in 6-12 months

[fiery sable]

Oof ok, I just threw it in there to get a base list, but what’d you recommend

[potent portal]

Wasn't easy to do with the requirements but this is a much better set of parts https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3zPYcH

[fiery sable]

Nice thanks

[fleet heron]

this might sound stupid because it probally is but can a computer function without a graphic drivers?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

every modern os has a generic display driver with basic display capabilities

so the pc can still work, but not optimally

[fleet heron]

ah i see

didnt know that about os

[lone flame]

I'd like to upgrade my old prebuilt from cyberpower I got like 4 years ago without knowing like anything about PC gaming. if I wanted to put like $500 into it, what should I upgrade? these are the specs of it I believe.

product name is CyberPowerPC GMA4000BST

wanted to upgrade it a bit and give it to a sibling

[obsidian wigeon]

ram, gpu, new psu (maybe depending on quality)

and maybe cpu but 3100 is still ok enough

[lone flame]

psu is 650 watts, I'd have to open it up again to look at brand

[obsidian wigeon]

slap a 6600 in there and it'll be massively faster

[lone flame]

i think its 650

[obsidian wigeon]

without probably needing another psu

[lone flame]

let me go open it up and check the brand

[obsidian wigeon]

if anything i think i would just buy ram, cpu and gpu if psu is good enough

[lone flame]

It’s a thermaltake smart 600w

Says it’s rated 80+ gold

[obsidian wigeon]

smart gold

any other abbreviations?

like gx2?

[lone flame]

Ew why did it send upside down

[obsidian wigeon]

ok lemme check for a min

[lone flame]

You’re good

Also if it means anything the motherboard says it’s a asrock a320m-hdv

[obsidian wigeon]

it's unsure

probs c or d tier

actually d or e, oof

[lone flame]

I’ve had no issues with it

[fleet heron]

return it

[lone flame]

It ran perfect for like 4 years

[obsidian wigeon]

it's cause the parts are very low power

barely uses up the psu's capacity

[lone flame]

Does your 6700 XT have driver problems

[fleet heron]

not often ive had problems with cod and thats it

it used to blackscreen when i tabbed out

[lone flame]

I loaded up today just for my gpu to not register

[fleet heron]

weird

new computer?

[lone flame]

I just went into device manager to reinable it

[fleet heron]

actually nvm you got hella dust

[lone flame]

Built it at the start of July, been having issues

[fleet heron]

clean that psu daym

[fleet heron]

ah

[lone flame]

That’s my old prebuilt

[cyan ravine]

Probably 1 of 3 possible psus, I'd say c tier

[fleet heron]

psus?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's possibly fine or not fine

[cyan ravine]

It's not a white so it's probably ok

[lone flame]

So it comes down to if I want to take that chance

[fleet heron]

wait so the gpu doesnt show up on the comptuer!?

like in bios

[lone flame]

Yes it just disappeared from my task manager

[fleet heron]

whaaaaa

[lone flame]

First time that happened was like a week after I built it

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/76Pk2m

[lone flame]

I’ve done ddu

[obsidian wigeon]

update bios and smack 5600 inside

[lone flame]

I’ve reinstalled everything

[fleet heron]

woulent it be a driver issue?

[lone flame]

It is a driver issue

Idk how to fix it

[fleet heron]

oh

[fleet heron]

do that

foxy smart asf

[lone flame]

For now I just disabled and reenabiled my gpu in device manager and that fixes it

Idk what else to do

[obsidian wigeon]

reinstalled windows?

[fleet heron]

could it relate maybe to a faulty hdmi cable?

my friend had that problem once

[vague oracle]

What’s the problem?

[lone flame]

the hdmi cable is older

[lone flame]

ok so my gpu (6700 xt from asrock) has been having driver issues since i built it like a month ago

it'll randomly just blackscreen once i boot up

i have to power off manually and go back in

[vague oracle]

You try older drivers?

The newest driver apparently has issues

[lone flame]

ive tried installing a bunch of drivers, i've done ddu

@frigid night walked me through it last time

[vague oracle]

Tried reseating?

[lone flame]

they can prob explain

[fleet heron]

i can confirm smh

[lone flame]

first thing i did

this is the 4th time its happened

i just disabled and reenabled it

[obsidian wigeon]

might be worth rma

since it's persistent

[frigid night]

That's what I'm thinking.

[lone flame]

rma?

[obsidian wigeon]

return it for replacement

[lone flame]

any chance you can get it closer to 400? if not is cool

[obsidian wigeon]

contact asrock support for that

[frigid night]

Return Merchandise Authorization.

[obsidian wigeon]

i can, gimme a sec

[frigid night]

Basically return a defective product for a working product.

[fleet heron]

basically just meaning returing stuff right?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KKZGJM

yes

it's all there is

[fleet heron]

returning

[lone flame]

and your thoughts about that psu?

[obsidian wigeon]

eh it'll be just fineee

[lone flame]

do i have to pay asrock for that

[obsidian wigeon]

no

it's completely free

[frigid night]

Heck no. It's their product that is defective. If they charged you for a replacement, that'd be illegal.

[obsidian wigeon]

they'll give you shipping label and stuff once everything is approved

[fleet heron]

bit off topic but what season are you on the beaky blinders?

[lone flame]

how long does it normally take? i'm assuming it leaves me gpu-less for a bit

[obsidian wigeon]

a week usually

[lone flame]

mk

if it happens again then I will contact asrock

[obsidian wigeon]

maybe a month but i would start asking if it's over a week

[lone flame]

if i ask nice maybe they will upgrade me to a 6800 if i ask nicely

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[frigid night]

If they are out of the GPU you are RMAing, it's been known that places will send back a replacement with equal or more performance.

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[frigid night]

It's technically illegal for them to send you anything less.

[lone flame]

is there a "big" difference between a 6700 xt and a 6800

i still need to get a better understanding of gpu specs

[fleet heron]

a tiny bit yea

[potent portal]

I got a X570 board back when I sent my X470 in for replacement

[frigid night]

A sizeable difference yes.

[lone flame]

if i do rma do I pay for shipping

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

they can't charge you a dime

it's illegal to charge in rma

[frigid night]

Nope. They send you a shipping label. You just toss it in a box (but make sure it's secure) and slap the label on the box with the RMA label.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frigid night]

Refer to this pin in #graphics-cards

#graphics-cards message

[lone flame]

i should probably use the original box since I have it right

[frigid night]

This will help you get an understanding of relative performance.

[cyan ravine]

That's a thing in the US?

It's not here

[obsidian wigeon]

yap

it is

[frigid night]

Yep yep

[obsidian wigeon]

the us has it better than aussies

[frigid night]

Yes.

I love you foxy.

Let's bag on the Australian.

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[lone flame]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-12111808

[cyan ravine]

[potent portal]

They can't charge you for a defect from the factory or from normal wear and tear through the warranty term here, yeah

[frigid night]

Yes.

[potent portal]

They can charge shipping though

[obsidian wigeon]

but they wouldn't anyway

unless they want customers to hate em

[potent portal]

MSI made me pay to send my board to them 3 times

[frigid night]

Can you say GN?

[obsidian wigeon]

ouch

that's a bit painful

[frigid night]

Oooof

$20 a pop?

[potent portal]

Eh, $45 total and I get a newer mobo out of it

[frigid night]

Not to bad then

[obsidian wigeon]

yes gn

[potent portal]

Nah I used the flat rate box, $15

[frigid night]

I forgot who you worked for xD

[potent portal]

Yep I know all the tricks

[frigid night]

Alright. Time to drive home. See y'all in a few minutes

[lone flame]

btw what do you guys do that you all know so much about PCs

im assuming atleast one of you has to build them consistently for work or something

[potent portal]

I manage a network and the IT team for a business

[frigid night]

A couple of us build them consistently outside of our normal jobs.

[obsidian wigeon]

i never touched one aside from taking gpu out and putting it back in

i only seriously took apart laptops and did work on em

[vague oracle]

Gigabyte screwed me over with RMA

[obsidian wigeon]

typical gigglebit

[vague oracle]

Waiting on Asrock RMA

[fleet heron]

dude i wanna do anything tech related when i get a job

[vague oracle]

They should get the GPU tomorrow

Asus RMA was perfect

[fleet heron]

asus is perfect

[lone flame]

i am emailing asrock rma rn

[vague oracle]

Got a brand new board within a week of sending my old motherboard

Same with my laptop

[obsidian wigeon]

asus rma perfect for me too

[vague oracle]

I wonder if I’ll get screwed by Asrock

[obsidian wigeon]

ehh unlikely

asrock is pretty good

[potent portal]

The tech fields are super cutthroat right now when hiring. There's not a lot of entry level positions. At least, not any that don't say "entry level" and "5 years experience minimum" in the same breath.

[obsidian wigeon]

entry level and 5 years experience

yeah so much for "entry"

[lone flame]

i can put my rx 570 in there while my 6700 xt is gone lol

[potent portal]

Oh and they expect you to take minimum wage with your master's degree

[vague oracle]

I have the warranty sticker gone which I know they can’t legally enforce but still

[obsidian wigeon]

[fleet heron]

just started hs

lmfao

[obsidian wigeon]

should still be ok

they check serial anyway

[lone flame]

I just graduated

[potent portal]

You've got time to figure things out then

[fleet heron]

noice noice

[vague oracle]

Nah it’s one of those warranty void if removed stickers

[obsidian wigeon]

might as well flip burgers than get into tech companies

kek

unless you get into the deep end of cs or something like that

[lone flame]

what should i provide in the email to asrock rma

im assuming proof of purchase

[obsidian wigeon]

then you got big companies waiting to scoop you up

[potent portal]

Considering they're offering the same amount of money, yeah

[fleet heron]

im never flipping burgurs

burgers

i mean its not all about money though i enjoy stuff relating to tech and computer hardware

[potent portal]

I know no one here knows exactly what company I'm at right now, but I still can't badmouth our hiring manager and HR for legal reasons. I'll let your imaginations figure that one out.

[obsidian wigeon]

but working min wage with high pressure sucks

[frigid night]

You work for Newegg.

[fleet heron]

i mean min wage sucks by itself

[lone flame]

this is the correct thing for asrock's rma yes https://www.asrock.com/support/index.asp?cat=RMA

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[potent portal]

Nice try but no, it's nowhere near that big.

[fleet heron]

thats def a possibily lol

nah newegg tiny

jk

[lone flame]

.

[fleet heron]

please and thank you

[potent portal]

It's not all about money until you realize that the living wage for a full time worker (40 hour weeks) to live off of is over $30 an hour here, but the minimum wage is $15 so you need 2 full time jobs just to make enough to pay your rent, bills, etc.

[potent portal]

When you email them they'll tell you what they need from you

[lone flame]

i am making 12.50 and roughly 25 hours a week right out of highschool

im chilling rn

[lone flame]

fair enough

stupid question but when they get the card will they like test it to see if i am just like lying or will they just send a replacement no questions asked

[potent portal]

They test it

[lone flame]

it'll probably act fine

it's proabably something I can't figure out

which is the issue

[potent portal]

Which can be kind of a pain when it does work fine on their test rig because then they just send it back 🥲

[cyan ravine]

Artisian builds

[lone flame]

that has me thinking i should just keep trying to fix it

and deal with its frequent disconnects

it legit just disables itself every other week

[potent portal]

I WISH, you know how much free hardware I would have gotten?!

[cyan ravine]

You said badmouth boss and legal so it only makes sense

[potent portal]

Nah I AM the boss here. We're not big enough to have a CTO so I report to the CEO, who pretty much signs off on whatever I say because you don't mess with the IT guy

The hiring manager is on a separate team

[cyan ravine]

Damn, why'd you contract urself out of badmouthing urself

Smh

[fleet heron]

Minimum wage is hard to live off of

[lone flame]

my dad does IT management for a bank

his problems he deals with make no sense to me

[potent portal]

A bank... I'm guessing a lot of that is going to be user error issues

[fleet heron]

My friends dad owns a tech business thingy that managed employees shifts online

[lone flame]

yes he deals with the issues other co-workers have and servers and stuff

thats dumbing it down alot

he does alot more i just can't explain it

think his title is system operations manager

[fleet heron]

Sounds scary

[potent portal]

"Have you tried turning it off and back on again"
I should have that on a soundboard to save my voice

[lone flame]

makes good $$$ tho

[potent portal]

It's scarier when you shorten it to Ops Man, makes it sounds like a spec ops soldier

[fleet heron]

Anything for da cash

[fleet heron]

Lool

Full moon today, cool

Like currently

[frigid night]

YES. Moon is one of my most fave things.

One of the reasons I have a Moon Knight themed PC build.

[lone flame]

its orange

[fleet heron]

Epic

[lone flame]

wildfire smoke is crazy

[fleet heron]

That's pollution sadly

[fleet heron]

🇨🇦

[lone flame]

i took pics of it last time it was orange

doesnt really do it justice though

shoving a iphone camera into my telescope brings fairly good results

[frigid night]

Are you able to take pics of this current one?

[fleet heron]

With your phone?

[lone flame]

my phone up to the eye piece of my telescope

very jank

[fleet heron]

You can totally see the orange on two of them

[fleet heron]

Ah

Works well though

[frigid night]

I would love you if you could get me some beautiful pics of this moon.

[lone flame]

I wanted to get into ameatur astrophotography but its super expensive and I lost interest

[fleet heron]

It's the biggest it's going to get right? It looks huge

[potent portal]

It's not super expensive you just weren't willing to redneck engineer enough

[lone flame]

those few pictures of it with the orange-ish hue are the last time i went out and tried

it doesnt show up well

the sun looked like this today though

the smoke is crazy

[fleet heron]

Your picture!?

[lone flame]

I wish

[fleet heron]

That looks like Mars or Saturn

Oh lol

[lone flame]

I got to see saturn once through my telescope

it was very humbling

[fleet heron]

Nice!

[lone flame]

it was basically something like this

[fleet heron]

Why?

[lone flame]

I had my highest magnification

[fleet heron]

Ohhhh that's why

[lone flame]

refer to the picture

yeah

makes you feel very small

[fleet heron]

Even though Saturn bigggg

[lone flame]

once wildfire smoke clears up I might go out again to look

[vague oracle]

@paper summit don’t look at the picture

[lone flame]

last time i saw it was early january

[fleet heron]

Ah

[lone flame]

@frigid night these were some i took a few weeks ago ^

they aren't anything special but i think were my highest magnification

[lone flame]

jupiter was something very similar to this

[potent portal]

Oh you got a few moons in that one, nice!

[lone flame]

you're able to barely see rings and then 4 specs of the Galilean moons

[lone flame]

yeah cause they are huge moons lol

I was suprised the first time i looked

[potent portal]

I mean, yeah but they're also SUPER far

[lone flame]

mhm

[fleet heron]

How many moons it got?

I'm guessing a lot