building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

a 5600 would do much better

[mossy venture]

b760m aorus pro ax is back to $120 if- nvm

[bold stone]

How do you check how legit a pc store is? Cause this one I'm getting the pc from has some good reviews but abit of bad ones

[mossy venture]

everything will have some bad reviews

just depends on what the bad reviews are

[bold stone]

Most are about them not responding to phone calls

And after purchase service

And rude workers

And like 2 of them said broken pcs

And 1 about bad caple management

[mossy venture]

sounds like the stores legit with some things that slip through quality control, which is normal, and bad customer service

[bold stone]

Well idk lmao

Is a mobo breaking after 3 years normal?

Of normal use

@mossy venture

Ofc at 5am I choose to start reading more and more reviews lmao (while setting it to lowest rated reviews)

[mossy venture]

that's very easily user error

[bold stone]

Aight maybe

Is there a way to test how quality a thing is in a pc

And if its actually a legit not fake one

[obsidian wigeon]

Faking pc parts is difficult

And honestly doesn't give the bad actor much monetary profit lol

[bold stone]

Alrigjt

Idk reading the bad reviews only makes me scared lmao

The overall store rating on google is 4 stars exactly

[obsidian wigeon]

Bad reviews could just be clueless people

[bold stone]

Facebook too (1310 reviews)

[obsidian wigeon]

You know some people doesn't even know how to install drivers

[bold stone]

Oh lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

So they try to run stuff and it doesn't work, then complain

[bold stone]

But I mean

Most of the reviews

Complained about after purchase service

Abd bad customer service

And sometimes missing items from things like screws from an ssd or smth

[obsidian wigeon]

Well, if positive reviews overwhelm the negative ones then you shouldn't worry too much

[bold stone]

You think?

Btw I got a question about mobos

[obsidian wigeon]

That's the way I buy things lol

Never failed me

[bold stone]

If I keep disconnecting the power from the power outlet directly,does it damage thd mobo

[obsidian wigeon]

No

But why would you do that

[bold stone]

Look,you get things like this

[obsidian wigeon]

It's likely to corrupt the ssd or windows

[bold stone]

So like idek

[bold stone]

My friend did that

So why did his mobo break after 3 years

[obsidian wigeon]

It's more because of other causes frankly

[potent portal]

There's protections in place to prevent damage, and if you didn't get windows corruption you're lucky

[obsidian wigeon]

Or that they torqued the cooler so much

[bold stone]

Look at the review from this guy

Am I right to be skeptical or im too dumb and scared

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKJJM5M2
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09T6RXYMP
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BJ5SDGXK

I currently have all of these

Should I bother with the fan hub or just daisy chain them?

A total of six 120mm case fans

[obsidian wigeon]

Judging by overall ratings, no, I wouldn't be scared

[bold stone]

Aight ig

Just 4 words,I hate this country

[jaunty nacelle]

is this 18 pin secure even if the clip doesnt retract as much as the other cables

[little osprey]

?

[wheat coral]

didnt we go over this

[little osprey]

I got mixed answers from other people

I know you want me to daisy chain them

[wheat coral]

daisy cahin would be easier, imo

[little osprey]

But @stoic island says I should use the fan hub since I got it

[wheat coral]

i mean you could just return it

[little osprey]

Does the fan hub allow for any more direct control?

[wheat coral]

no

[potent portal]

If it doesn't go in any more when you wiggle it a little while pressing it in then it's probably secure

[little osprey]

Purely just a connector, alright

[wheat coral]

yes

daisy chaining em like i suggested a bit ago would allow more control

[potent portal]

Either way works tbh, the difference is just preference mostly

[wheat coral]

cause you could control the exhaust, aio, and front independantly from eachother

[little osprey]

Daisy chain would allow that but the fan hub wouldn’t?

[wheat coral]

yes cause the fan hub is a splitter but with extra steps lol

[little osprey]

Huh, interesting

I was gonna say if I could mount it without using the adhesive it’d be fine but if the daisy chain allows for more control may as well do that

[wheat coral]

i'd just return the hub

[tranquil pebble]

Daisy chain for the win

[little osprey]

To be fair I dunno how long it’s been since I’ve had it

[wheat coral]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH RAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[little osprey]

Might just have to keep it as a spare or something

[wheat coral]

eh

[little osprey]

It was only $10 so not losing much

[bold stone]

@obsidian wigeon I ended up joining a jordanian Facebook pc building site

Most people asking about the store got answers saying they are decent

[ornate solstice]

how do y’all feel about this

[paper summit]

price?

[warped hemlock]

is this a good build, I made it in a couple days but I want to make sure the parts will all work great with eacoher: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TT7r2m

[ornate solstice]

1959

[obsidian wigeon]

heck no

overpriced as all heck

[ornate solstice]

THATS WHAT I SAID my friend sent it to me saying it was the best and i kept telling him it’s not so he wanted another opinion thank you for the insight

[obsidian wigeon]

don't get that at all because for that much you can get better

[potent portal]

Even if you don't build it yourself and pay someone off facebook or craigslist to build it, you can build a better pc for way less.

[earnest olive]

1959 for a 4070 LOOOL

with 32gb of potato ddr5

and a pretty bad ssd too

all stuffed into an oven

you can easily do a much better 4080/7900xtx build with that budget

[cyan ravine]

Pretty sure if you're smart about it you could build 2 4070 PC's for that budget

[frigid night]

Phelix knows da way

[cyan ravine]

Almost perfectly half

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KQDj8r

[cyan ravine]

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

I assume that's for spam but problem is I'm on holibops in freedomland

Twas 6ams

[cyan ravine]

[cyan ravine]

Visits the wideus

[fossil cedar]

The wide man is a long way away from alligator land

[cyan ravine]

Who live in the alligators?

[fossil cedar]

Methinks jp

[cyan ravine]

@wide sparrow party at ur house

[bold stone]

Is 2ms bad for a gaming monitor?

I'm hearing mixed reviews about my screen

[mossy venture]

advertised response time is almost always exagerated

most supposedly 1ms screens are closer to 2 or 3

[bold stone]

Bruh

Ok here is a comparison

Samsung odyssey g3 24" 165hz and my monitor

Which one is better in what,if you ignore va and ips

[mossy venture]

the odyssey is better, of course. You're comparing two completely different classes of monitors though

[bold stone]

Wdym

Different classes

So you recommend I get the odyssey instead of the acer

15jd difference

[mossy venture]

Ips alone would be nice for that small difference

[bold stone]

Odyssey is va tho

So uh,you reckon do the switch?

[mossy venture]

really?

then I'd stick with the one you have, if it's IPS

[obsidian wigeon]

then nope, don't go samsung

[bold stone]

It's supposed to be ips lmao

[obsidian wigeon]

also tbh response times aren't a concern

[bold stone]

You reckon?

[obsidian wigeon]

i have a laptop with 144hz and around 10ms

perfectly good

[bold stone]

I mean 144=165hz kinda so it's only about the rest of the specs I'm confused abt

[bold stone]

Do you feel the 10ms in competitive games or smth

[obsidian wigeon]

i used to play and win in quite a few matches in fps games with crappy 60hz laptops before

so no

it's not a problem

your brain takes way longer to register before making an input anyway

[bold stone]

How do I know my old TV name

Depending on its ms I might have a slight picture of what Ms is

[obsidian wigeon]

ms is miliseconds

10ms like like what 0.01 of a second

[bold stone]

So not noticeable?

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[potent portal]

When a monitor advertises "1ms response" that's just a marketing trick. It's only able to do that in one certain transition from gray to gray.

Real response times are much higher

[bold stone]

Lmao

Only piece of info abt my tv

Can I finf it's latency somehow

[potent portal]

You need special hardware to measure it

[bold stone]

Oh ffs

And ofc no one on google tested it

[potent portal]

I'm guessing the average response is going to be around 40 ms on that, due both to the low refresh and the fact it's not designed for gaming

[potent portal]

Yeah again they're only listing the best transition speed

[bold stone]

Yeah so

Let's assume my TV is 10ms

And i feel sliiiight delay

So 4ms is like 2x better than my TV

Yeah I'm an idiot for stressing this out

I literally wont feel ig

It

[bold stone]

(Assuming it'd 4ms)

[potent portal]

If it's the difference of going from 40ms to 4, that could be noticeable

Comparing 10 to 4, functionally identical

Total system lately will be higher than that no matter what

[bold stone]

@potent portal fo you understand abt freesync

[obsidian wigeon]

freesync is adaptive sync

it's vsync but better

[bold stone]

Well,what will I be able to run

Msi 3050 ryzen 5 5500 acer monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

anything you'd want to run

it will run

[bold stone]

I mean

[obsidian wigeon]

okay with lowered settings in some titles but it will do it

[bold stone]

Freesync gsync vsync

[potent portal]

It makes the monitor wait to refresh until the GPU is ready to send a frame. It helps prevent screen tearing and can make it feel smoother.

[bold stone]

Not like performance

[obsidian wigeon]

gsync and freesync are the same

[potent portal]

Any and all of these

[obsidian wigeon]

vsync is often the worst as it tends to add latency

and/or only work well at target fps

[bold stone]

Oh fr?

What's the superior out of the 3

[potent portal]

Most gsync monitors are just rebranded freesync anyway

[obsidian wigeon]

gsync and freesync are the best

[potent portal]

Not vsync, but besides that it depends on the monitor not the tech used

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[bold stone]

Freesync sounds cooler

I'll go with that iv

Ig

I gtg cya

[obsidian wigeon]

it's the same as gsync lel as they're interchangeable

like falcie said

[jaunty nacelle]

i flipped my psu to have the fan face towards the top, is that okay or should i have the fan facing down and move the psu back a bit to fit the screws

if i push the psu with the fan facing down against the case, the screws dont fit but if i push it back a bit then it will

[potent portal]

If there's a vent for the PSU to breathe then it doesn't matter

If it's facing up it'll be fighting the GPU for a little bit of air but that's negligible

[jaunty nacelle]

theres a vent for it to face both up and down, do you think itll be okay to push the psu back a bit for the screws to fit in though

[potent portal]

Either way is fine then

And a little gap is fine too if you have to push it in

[jaunty nacelle]

ok thanks

[jaunty nacelle]

just checking but this gap is okay right? im aware the screws arent all the way in btw

[potent portal]

You don't need to put all the screws in if there's no place to secure it properly. 2 will do fine.
The gap is ok at any rate.

[mossy venture]

I have two screws holding it on in my current build

[jaunty nacelle]

u what what now

[mossy venture]

Missed a word

[potent portal]

You only need 2 screws to secure the PSU

What is what @mossy venture did

[mossy venture]

Wait no I didn't

[potent portal]

Oh?

[mossy venture]

I added some words

There we go

Fixed now

[jaunty nacelle]

did u put the screws like in a diagonal style

[potent portal]

Ideally they'd be that way but for the PSU it won't matter much

[mossy venture]

I dont remember for certain but I think so

[jaunty nacelle]

lol spent way too much time on this but should i keep all four in or take out the screw on the bottom left that wont go in fully

[paper summit]

@fading acorn no vertical mount

[potent portal]

You can just leave that one out

[potent portal]

Agreed. Vertical mount hurts GPU temps and it looks fine to me.

[jaunty nacelle]

this is loose?

pushing hard and it wont budge

[potent portal]

Give a little wiggle while you push

[jaunty nacelle]

hows it lookin

[potent portal]

Looks clipped in

[frigid night]

Sometimes. There are instances where vertical mounted GPUs with passthrough coolers benefit from bottom airflow cases. Albeit 5c give or take.

Also dependent on good fans of course.

[potent portal]

I doubt that chonker GPU would benefit

The fans would be pressed against the glass

[runic spruce]

Would also blow hot air on to the chipset

[potent portal]

Warm maybe but the chipset doesn't really care

[frigid night]

I'm not sure which o11 case that is, but my aorus master is almost as big and there is plenty room between the fans and the glass in my o11d evo.

[runic spruce]

Looks like there’s plenty of room on that guys case for at least two inches of clearance for the fans

Depends on the mount too ig but he’d prob just go up 1-2c if anything, kind of funny looking that there’s no pci brackets on his case tho

[frigid night]

yeah, there is a good mount that allows you to adjust and with the o11 you can mount low or high. is nice.

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Vertical-Graphics-Holder/dp/B0B7NY5TSY

so basically, could mount just right above the fans allowing full force of good fan airflow right though the passthough cooler.

[runic spruce]

@fading acorn wouldn’t really matter besides aesthetic

[frigid night]

That's the thing though, It can matter lol

5c is 5c. Aesthetically pleasing yes, but also funtionally can cool the gpu a little more.

[runic spruce]

Rgb does not improve performance

[frigid night]

Who said anything abou rgb?

[runic spruce]

The fins are getting cooled either way

Just making a joke about rgb

[frigid night]

You are right. I'm not arguing that.

[runic spruce]

His pc looks like those laser light things at concerts lol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/574740748801540107/1124490807253147678/IMG_2468.mov

[cyan ravine]

Too much rgb

[flint sapphire]

Not enough wood

[lone flame]

my gpu came today 😄

the reality has set in that i actually have to assemble and build it now lol

im excited tho

all the parts should be here by like the 8th

a bunch of them are coming on the 3rd

[terse pebble]

Yah I think so.

[vague oracle]

Needs more water

[uneven goblet]

what mobo do i go with i5 13400f

[cyan ravine]

B760m pg riptide

Brrrrrrr

[mossy venture]

Depends on ddr4 or ddr5 and if you need wifi

[uneven goblet]

no wifi, ddr4

its cheaper

idk is it same perfomance

[mossy venture]

Not by much, there's $70 decent ddr5 kits and it's a good bit of an improvement

Actually there's this kit for $53 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yybTv3

Ddr4 option https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nwt9xs

Very small difference, definitely worth the price increase

@uneven goblet

[uneven goblet]

thanks

[frigid night]

Your exhaust fan curve might be set up differently than the rest of your case fans.

[fossil cedar]

Id do this instead for the ddr4 option if a possible bios update is okay for you to do
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YnXVtn
@uneven goblet

[little osprey]

@mossy venture

Sending the board back

Rear IO was bent when I got it

Anything for $120? Or should I just reorder the same board?

[cyan ravine]

Looks fine

[little osprey]

To be fair it could’ve been a lot worse since they shipped the board box in a plastic bag

But I’m gonna take this chance to grab a DDR5 board if there are any

[cyan ravine]

The board box in plastic is fine

As long as it's in a box and esd

Most of my parts come wrapped in plastic

[little osprey]

No no

Like the exterior shipping was plastic

[cyan ravine]

Yeah?

[little osprey]

The box corners were hammered when I got it

[cyan ravine]

That's how my 6900xt showed up

Just last week

[little osprey]

I mean it’s free if I return it and grab a DDR5 board

[cyan ravine]

I mean ok

But for what I can see they mightn't accept the return

Cos I seriously can't see anything

[little osprey]

I mean I was able to get away with returning my Razer headset when there was nothing wrong with it

I think if you return it for Amazon credit they’ll accept just about anything

[cyan ravine]

-to a point

[little osprey]

Well sure

[cyan ravine]

I'm just alerting you man so you're prepared

Plus the ddr5 ship sailed yesterday after they sold basically every kit for $53

Really really good kits too

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tGmmP6/asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pg-riptide

Would need wifi card though

[cyan ravine]

Yep that would be the board

And the 85$ vulcan 5600 cl32 kit

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TxcgXL/msi-b760-gaming-plus-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760-gaming-plus-wifi

[cyan ravine]

Nope

Pg riptide has OC

[little osprey]

Oh?

[cyan ravine]

Nothing comes close to it

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/N6nypg/gigabyte-b760-gaming-x-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760-gaming-x-ax

[cyan ravine]

Bclk+ram oc

[little osprey]

Was gonna say this but NVM

[cyan ravine]

Nope

Pg riptide or nothing

It's a z790 in sheeps clothing

With this kit and nothing else

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LTcG3C/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-ff3d532g5600hc32dc01

There's no better option unless you were obsessed with OC to begin with

[burnt spruce]

Which is the best one to buy 3060 , 3060 TI or 4060 or 4060TI. My board is MSI B550 Mortar Wifi

[potent portal]

Whichever ti is cheaper. The 4060 ti gets about the same performance as the 3060 ti.

[burnt spruce]

3060 ti is a lot cheaper in my area

Then I should just get it right

Not the 4060ti?

[potent portal]

Yes

Alternatively the 6750 XT beats all of those and has been about the same price

[burnt spruce]

GEFORCE RTX 3060 TI ASUS DUAL O8 V2 OC BLACK 8GB GDDR6 DUAL FAN LHR - 412.31 usd
GEFORCE RTX 3060 TI PALIT BLACK 8GB GDDR6 DUAL FAN RGB LHR- 22030 - 398.56 usd
GEFORCE RTX 3060 TI ASUS TUF GAMING OC BLACK 8GB GDDR6X TRIPLE FAN RGB LHR - 437.64 usd
RADEON RX 6750 XT GIGABYTE GAMING OC 12GB GDDR6 TRIPLE FAN - 416.02 usd

what's the best choice here ? also for long term use ?

[potent portal]

The 6750 would be best. It's got the best performance and more memory, which will help long term.

[burnt spruce]

I have Corsair 750RM also would that do ?

for the PSU

[potent portal]

Yes that's perfect

[manic cloak]

i have no purpose in using this machine, maybe buy it for a cousin for a birthday gift but there’s one on facebook market place for 700$, box is in rough shape. if i haggled to 500$ would it be W or L?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-40l-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-12400f-hyperx-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-1tb-ssd-nightfall-black/6504335.p?skuId=6504335&ref=212&loc=1

[burnt spruce]

6750XT is a lot better than 3060TI performance and long term use ? also is it worth it to upgrade from R5 5600G to R5 5600X ?

[manic cloak]

or even 400$

[potent portal]

The 6750 XT is pretty close to the 6800 in performance. It has 12gb of memory, much more than the 8gb on the 3060 ti or 4060 ti.

[burnt spruce]

the 6750 xt is there?

[potent portal]

They don't have it on their 4060 reviews since review outlets didn't really get them

But it's slightly below the 6800 non XT

[burnt spruce]

I see

good for longterm use also right ?

[potent portal]

Yes. Games have started using more memory lately so if that trend continues you'll be ready.

[burnt spruce]

its compatible with MSI B550M Mortar Wifi right ? also is it worth to upgrade from 5600G to R5 5600X ?

[potent portal]

100% compatible
Probably not worth an upgrade that small. If anything, a 5800X3D later.

[burnt spruce]

5800X3D is around 356.32 in my place

R7

so just stick with 5600G ? and uninstall drivers right

[potent portal]

Yes just stick to what you have.

Drivers should be fine. The APU drivers are the same as the GPU drivers.

[manic cloak]

some guy on facebook marketplace wants me to pay 600$ https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-omen-40l-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i5-12400f-hyperx-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-1tb-ssd-nightfall-black/6504335.p?skuId=6504335&ref=212&loc=1 for this

idk if i could haggle him with the “oh this might have the recalled issue HP did awhile ago” and get it down to 400-500$ 💀

[potent portal]

If you get it for $400 you can salvage out the GPU, CPU and RAM. That's all that's usable on that computer.

[burnt spruce]

No need to uninstall ? the drivers of 5600G ? even tho I get GPU which is 6750 XT ? also my case is Montech Air X ARGB . should I upgrade my CPU Cooler Arctic Cooling Freezer 34 eSports Duo Air Cooler

[potent portal]

The case is an oven, the motherboard limits you too below Intel spec, and the power supply is proprietary.

[potent portal]

Correct, it uses the same AMD drivers.
That cooler is overkill. A basic tower cooler works great if you don't like the stock cooler.

[burnt spruce]

I'm using that Arctic Cooling Freezer right now should I upgrade to 360 or 420 AOI ?

or no need ?

[potent portal]

Oh, no what you have is already more than you need

You'll gain exactly nothing by upgrading

[burnt spruce]

okay so just stick with it also then

[potent portal]

Yes

[burnt spruce]

Thank you @potent portal

[manic cloak]

@potent portal ik the psu is only 600 but what monitor?

motherboard*

oh my god iphone

and ik case is an oven cause glass front.

plus 4x4 gb of ram..

[potent portal]

The hp motherboard. They don't use standard designs, they use e-waste proprietary ones

[manic cloak]

ah

so new motherboard, likely new ssd, new psu, and new case

[potent portal]

Yep

Even the PSU is proprietary

[manic cloak]

if I sticked with ddr4, 119.99 for a b660 gigabyte aorus, 55$ for a 32gb kit of ram, case I get the air 100 which is 60$, and psu could range from 55$-100$ depending if I want full or non modular

which comes out to.. let's say 325 after everything.

and idk how good that omen cooler or the fans in the omen case itself is

[potent portal]

Which makes the PC not even worth paying 400 because for 750 you get much better parts

[manic cloak]

ya and I doubt paying 825$ for it would be worth

cause reselling it would be hard on fb marketplace

[burnt spruce]

so either I upgrade to 5800X3D from 5600G or would R7 5800X worth it not the 5800X3D.

[manic cloak]

unless.. I find a used motherboard, find a used kit of ram, buy kit and PSU brandnew

but still I think that'd be an issue

[potent portal]

5800X is not worth it either, it's very far behind it's younger sibling the X3D

[burnt spruce]

so my only choice if ever I will upgrade is R7 5800X3D then . also if I buy the 6750 XT do I need GPU holder bracket ?

[potent portal]

It doesn't need one. It's not big enough.

[burnt spruce]

this one ? RADEON RX 6750 XT GIGABYTE GAMING OC 12GB GDDR6 TRIPLE FAN

[manic cloak]

@potent portal what if I told the guy "idk, I looked into this and apparently this PSU is like a ticking time bomb cause hp had to recall some models for it exploding"

[manic cloak]

not likely

something like a 6900xt ultimate red devil would need one

[potent portal]

I cannot condone such dishonesty

[manic cloak]

I mean be honest with me

who'd pay 1.5k for that pc which is worth.. less than 750$? from the literal manufactures themselves

he says brand new in box

[potent portal]

Someone who realized their mistake too late and are trying to make it your problem now

[manic cloak]

but looks like he threw dirt on it everyday

like nasty brown spots on it from here to there

[potent portal]

Ah yes the "fell off the back of the truck" new in box

[manic cloak]

should i ask him if he’s used it then

[little osprey]

Will any ddr5 ram work for any ddr5 motherboard?

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

[manic cloak]

most of the time, some boards have set limits with some ddr5 speeds

[little osprey]

Really

[manic cloak]

b760s can’t support anything about 5600 i believe

above*

[little osprey]

Why this gotta be so complicated for 💀

[potent portal]

If you use a K processor you can go higher.

[manic cloak]

ah makes sense

[manic cloak]

what ya trying to build rn

we could help you find the right board

or kit or ram

[little osprey]

Kay hold on let me find the pcpp list

[potent portal]

They design it this way so you give up and buy the overpriced garbage because it's simpler

[burnt spruce]

ViewSonic VX2457-MHD 23.6 75 HZ or Samsung LS24C310EAEXXP S3 24" FHD IPS 75HZ which is better ? gonna use it for 2nd monitor only

[manic cloak]

what's your budget on the monitor

cause imma keep it real, you could probably get something better same priced, idk how much they cost but

[coarse coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-explode-explosion-exploding-gif-27323776

[little osprey]

Kay so I already own the CPU, PSU, Case, the hard drive & the GPU, I also own a amd cpu fan dunno which one yet asked the bf who bought it. It’s not the one in the list because this was before we even got it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JF78hk

[burnt spruce]

around 150$ . My main monitor right now is msi optix g24 series 144hz curved

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BbG2qm

This is the correct list now

[manic cloak]

https://www.newegg.com/black-acer-qg241y-pbmiipx-um-qq1aa-p01-23-8/p/N82E16824011382?Item=N82E16824011382 @burnt spruce VA or, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XfbTwP/msi-optix-g273-270-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-optix-g273 IPS

[burnt spruce]

for 2nd monitor ?

[manic cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C1716NR3?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 IPS aswell

[manic cloak]

ya, or you can swap to man monitor

[burnt spruce]

any of these is good for long term use also ?

[manic cloak]

I believe they'd all be good long term, the msi g273 is hit or miss imo considering it is an older model

@little osprey are you using wifi?

[little osprey]

Ethernet

But ik I need wifi

[manic cloak]

alright

[burnt spruce]

its 258.62 in my area

[manic cloak]

you don't live in the us I assume?

[burnt spruce]

so my monitor right now not that good ?

so better buy 165hz and use my main monitor right now as 2nd monitor ?

[manic cloak]

imo ya, cause your current one is older, if that goes to crap on you as a 2nd you wouldn't need to worry as the new one you just bought will suffice

instead of buying a cheaper 75hz monitor, where if your current main goes to crap, you'll be playing on a crappy school like monitor

[burnt spruce]

whats the best among the 3 you recommended ?

[manic cloak]

I really don't enjoy AMD mobo prices, it's so overpriced

compared to like intel 😭

[manic cloak]

id go with omen or acer

omen is better cause it's IPS.

[little osprey]

I have an i7-3770 now but I already got the amd 🙃

[burnt spruce]

Oh that omen is 189.87 in my area

[manic cloak]

ikik, prices for like real good 12/13th gen intel boards are like 120$ rn which is crazy

[burnt spruce]

will buy the omen then . Thank you

[manic cloak]

don't live in the states?

[burnt spruce]

Yes I don't

[little osprey]

Damn

[manic cloak]

alr, but ya if you find anything cheaper just send it here and we can tell you if it's 👍 👎

[burnt spruce]

I'm from 3rd world country everything is expensive lol

[manic cloak]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kvh2qm so:
I have two choices on there for you, ik your build has black but i'm gonna be honest I don't look at my pc and stare at my motherboard, plus the rgb will likely cover it up. Anyways the a620 is very similar to the b650, a620 missing like an extra pcie and a usb 3.2 gen header which isn't a big deal, but the main issue is if you really want to use wifi or ethernet.

a620 has 1x 1 gb/s speeds while the b650 has 1x 2.5gb/s

[mossy venture]

7600 is same perf as 7600x

[manic cloak]

difference is around 25$, you're previous mobo had only 2 ram slots

[mossy venture]

And cheaper

[manic cloak]

alr bought

[mossy venture]

Ah ok

What else is?

[manic cloak]

a

CPU, Case, GPU, PSU, and the hard drive. I believe the cooler too?

[mossy venture]

I wouldn't get 980 pro

Overpriced

[little osprey]

Yes

Don’t own the ssd

That can be changed

[mossy venture]

Xs70 just as good for less, or if just gaming a60 will be the exact same experience

[manic cloak]

okok

[little osprey]

I also have extended storage 2tb

[mossy venture]

Otherwise looks pretty decent. If you can return the internal hdd I would

[manic cloak]

don't but extended if you haven't

buy*

[little osprey]

Already own it

[manic cloak]

I think there's literal mini machines that you stick an nvme inside and it could work the same-

ah

[mossy venture]

4tb hdds are around $55

[little osprey]

Ooo

I got it when I first got the pc because it didn’t hold enough space

[manic cloak]

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-USB-Tool-Free-Aluminum-Cable/dp/B0BW8PST8F/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=15MHL1M61CZBI&keywords=nvme+enclosure&qid=1688249669&s=electronics&sprefix=nvme+%2Celectronics%2C153&sr=1-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

I think this is it

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=nvme+enclosure&i=electronics&crid=15MHL1M61CZBI&sprefix=nvme+%2Celectronics%2C153&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_5

what I searched ^

[little osprey]

What’s this

[manic cloak]

that's basically the extended storage device that you have

but instead you plop an nvme inside and it works the same

also updated list @little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3h8PbK you can choose what mobo you want (a620 has slower ethernet, but both boards have same internet,) ram (ones just rgb and other isn't,) and storage (each different speeds with different prices, just depends how much you wanna spend.)

you already have a hard drive, external, what I could recommend is you buying a fast os nvme (like the sn850) and a cheaper 1 tb for whatever you prefer.

[simple moon]

https://newegg.io/816ea2e
What is y'all's opinion on this build? I know I could just do research to see what resolutions and frame rates this hardware is capable of, and I already know that it can do most in 1440p at above 60 fps, but I would like help from someone who has experience in this kind of stuff. and isn't using a 9 year old Dell gaming-potato laptop (me).

[little osprey]

I’ll always go for extra space ik I need it

[little osprey]

Is that what you have listed in the pcpp

[manic cloak]

mhm, the 850 is the fastest and the others are options

[little osprey]

Okie

[manic cloak]

dude hell no

also use pcpp

you shouldn't be paying 4k for a 1440p build.

[simple moon]

This isnt just the build btw. This is also the peripherals and monitors and chair

[manic cloak]

I know

which is unneeded

@simple moon where you from (country), budget, and aiming for 1440p in a white or black build

[little osprey]

4K for a 1440p build LMFAO

Yeah there’s something wrong

[simple moon]

I am in the US, no more than 5k for both PC and additional peripherals, black

[little osprey]

Bro you can get a maxed out 4K build for like 2K

7800X3D and 4090

Then some fancy ass motherboard and RAM

[manic cloak]

wow. 5k?

you 100% you wanna spend 5k?

[simple moon]

I never done this before idk what kind of budget I should have

[manic cloak]

okay so definitely wait

[little osprey]

I mean what are your shooting for as far as performance?

[manic cloak]

what games are you playing.

[manic cloak]

nonono

we do that AFTER we know the games

[little osprey]

I was gonna say we could throw together the best price to performance rig for you

[simple moon]

I plan on playing like Cyberpunk 2077 and Starfield

as far as very intensive games

[manic cloak]

there's more intensive games than cyberpunk? 😭

[little osprey]

13600K and 4070 Ti maybe?

[manic cloak]

I was thinking that with a 7900xt or xtx

[little osprey]

Oh yeah that’s true

[manic cloak]

but then again, nivida runs cyber better

I think

[simple moon]

Yep. Starfield requires an SSD and 16 gigs ram availible to use

[little osprey]

Pffft

[manic cloak]

pull up the charts!

[little osprey]

32GB DDR5 is cheap now

For good kits too

[simple moon]

Yeah I was planning on exactly 32 and DDR5 for future proofing

[little osprey]

Don’t bother thinking about future proofing

Just a false reality people live by

Only think of parts that would allow an upgrade path

Nothing else matters outside of that

[manic cloak]

@little osprey can you find me a list of cyberpunk 2077 in 1440p

like the frames n etc

istg it's so difficult for me

[little osprey]

Yeah gimmie a sec

[earnest olive]

is this supposed to be unreasonable

[little osprey]

@manic cloak

Last gen cards though

[manic cloak]

no 7900xtx :/

[earnest olive]

1tb ssd and 16gb ram are practically free these days lmao

[little osprey]

Yeah

[little osprey]

I got my M450 for $38

[earnest olive]

going out for lunch costs more than a 1tb nvme

[simple moon]

For the ram, I said availible to use. Windows already uses like 4 gb rams

[earnest olive]

if you're footing the bill for 2 then it costs more than a 1tb nvme and 16gb ddr4-3200 lol

[near spruce]

Hey looking at making the purchase for this soon probably before the end of this month and was considering Monitors to upgrade on the side as well since its well within budget. I currently have some awesome Asus monitors that are 27" 1920x1080p but was considering upgrading for the 4k since we managed a 4090 and was wondering your opinion

[jaunty nacelle]

is this psu cable in

[earnest olive]

32gb is also dirt cheap now for ddr4 and ddr5 so

[earnest olive]

turn it on and find out

[simple moon]

yep

[earnest olive]

looks in

[jaunty nacelle]

okthx

[little osprey]

Should I even bother trying to find a B-die DDR4 kit

[earnest olive]

why?

[little osprey]

12600K

I wanna fiddle around with RAM

[earnest olive]

32gb a-die is the same price as 16gb b-die at this point

why bother with ddr4

[little osprey]

B660

[earnest olive]

b660 can run ddr5...

[little osprey]

Let me rephrase that

[earnest olive]

just get a ddr5 board

[little osprey]

I already have mine

[earnest olive]

💀

return it then

[little osprey]

For what though

[earnest olive]

...a ddr5 board?

you said you want to mess with ram

a-die will be more interesting

b-die will give you more pain for less results

[little osprey]

One second

[earnest olive]

take it from someone who literally spent 3 months tuning every single voltage exposed by the processor by 0.05v at a time to get b-die stable on 13th gen

it's not worth it

return your board

get ddr5

the best overclocking die for ddr5 is literally so cheap now

[manic cloak]

he was debating to get a ddr4 board because the color of it

he has an all black build

[earnest olive]

💀

[little osprey]

I’m over the color now IG

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tGmmP6/asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pg-riptide

[earnest olive]

bro is not ready for overclocking

[manic cloak]

ya.. b760 aorus < b660 aorus

[little osprey]

This would need a wifi card though

[manic cloak]

@little osprey wait till fantadeals and prime day

it's gonna be on sale again.

[earnest olive]

why b board anyways

[manic cloak]

it was on sale 2 days ago

[earnest olive]

if you really want to tune ram get a z board

[manic cloak]

why not?

only 120$ for a b760

[earnest olive]

b boards don't expose e-core l2 voltage

[manic cloak]

I wouldn't be complaining

[little osprey]

Z690 and Z790

Fancy

[earnest olive]

which is a critical lever in ram tuning in my experience

my z690 was $100 on ebay lol

[manic cloak]

OH WAIT he's tuning?

[little osprey]

I’ll go check prices on those RQ

[earnest olive]

...yes that's been the entire conversation topic

b boards are great if you're not trying to tune

but why buy one if you want to tune

[manic cloak]

i thought we were still on the topic about if we should stay with ddr5 or ddr4 💀

[earnest olive]

well z vs. b is relevant to ram overclocking too, not just cpu overclocking

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K9Fbt6/msi-pro-z690-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-wifi

[earnest olive]

that board is bad for ddr5

[little osprey]

There’s others for $180

One sec

[earnest olive]

idk about the other ones I just know that one is bad

which is disappointing because the ddr4 version is good

but oh well

[earnest olive]

I wonder if b boards expose PLL voltages

@honest knot do you remember

like SA PLL and MC PLL

[honest knot]

I cant recall

[earnest olive]

smh

unsubscribed

[little osprey]

Real

[earnest olive]

resubscribing just to unsubscribe again

[honest knot]

😂

lemme see if i can find some info

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JJRYcf/gigabyte-z690-aorus-elite-ax-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-aorus-elite-ax

Soooo… Is this board any good?

[manic cloak]

👍

[little osprey]

Alright I'll exchange my board RN and pay an extra $60

[manic cloak]

@simple moon saw nobody gave you a build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FdLpd9

went out on making it mainly RGB, the 360 AIO is called the Frozen Notte and is on amazon in black or white..

gave you 3 SSD's, one 850 for OS, another 850 for storage/games, and the 770 for your special game..

you won't need extra fans unless you want RGB on the back one, you don't need 2 mouses, no thermalpaste, if you want a windows key buy windows 10 and upgrade to 11 if you wanted otherwise go on woot.com and see if they'll post 50$ OS keys in pro for 10 or 11, you likely don't need stereos for your computer but if you really do, buy some bluetooth bookshelf ones, you only need two monitors instead of 3 likely, but tecware phantom or any other tecware keyboard off of amazon, and ya!

[mossy venture]

Yes

[little osprey]

Alright I'm gonna do an exchange then

[bold stone]

Can yall help me in general

[restive halo]

Anyone on?

[obsidian wigeon]

What's your question, if you got any?

[simple moon]

ty, I did not know that Intel had a better price to performance than Advanced Micro Devices. Thought they were about the same.

And looks like AMD has a better price to perfomance than Nvidia

[obsidian wigeon]

It depends

Everything changes with market tbh

[simple moon]

Well I can get an AMD 12 core for $450 or an Intel 14 core for $309

[obsidian wigeon]

The whole build isn't very well optimized if I gotta be honest

Is this a gaming build?

If it is I can certainly do better than that, not necessarily going amd or anything. Just optimizing the parts for the price

sn850x is so wasteful for games

[simple moon]

What would you suggest?

[obsidian wigeon]

Gimme a moment

What's your budget?

[simple moon]

Uhh I guess at this point, $3000 for the whole thing, including stuff like keyboard/mouse/monitor/controller/etc

In USD

[obsidian wigeon]

That's plenty then

Get some keychron board and a mouse of your preference

[simple moon]

Anything you would suggest the build that I just clicked on?

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fV2zmr

This, and maybe throw in arctic p12 argb for exhaust fan at the back

Or that thermalright argb fan, TL-12C I believe

For about 2.2k you get pc and monitor

That leaves you room for peripherals

[simple moon]

Hmm I don't feel like AMD processors have enough cores for price

[obsidian wigeon]

It doesn't matter for gaming

[simple moon]

At this point

[obsidian wigeon]

8 will continue to be sufficient for games

Especially since they're 8 fast cores

Zen 4 16 core handily beats the 13900K in multi core workloads just to make an example

Besides, 7800X3D is the fastest gaming cpu as of current, bar none to any other cpus

[potent portal]

The 13900k only has 8 real cores too. The other 16 are cinebench accelerators that games aren't going to use.

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao yeah

Once you game the e cores are irrelevant

[simple moon]

Doesn't Intel also have better DDR5 support?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes but it doesn't matter

You have to tune ram on Intel to touch the 7800X3D, especially with 13600K

[potent portal]

It's not even close between Intel and the X3D https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/500101047612604427/1121172220618735716/Screenshot_20230621-131708.png

[obsidian wigeon]

And that's despite amd not able to run ddr5 all that fast

[frigid night]

It's that cache.

[potent portal]

Straight up embarrassing for Intel in some games. Like ACC, you can see the X3D is over 30% faster.

[obsidian wigeon]

Imagine laptop cpu with 3d cache

The heat would probably be a big task to deal with tho

[potent portal]

It uses less power than the regular chip because of the lowered frequency and voltage

[obsidian wigeon]

less power but more heat density though

Oof I just saw strix g16 launch with 13980HX with 4050

That's some heavy imbalance of parts

Very cpu leaning

[fleet heron]

whos benchmarks are those?

[potent portal]

hub

[fleet heron]

ah

kk good 2 know lol

thx

then i am assuming their benchmarks are viable right? because i see them everwhere

[potent portal]

I'm not sure what you mean by viable

[frigid night]

They are reliable yes

[potent portal]

Here's the vid for reference. They're a decent source. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gEVy3aW-_s

[tawny fiber]

Only game 13700k was faster you have to use unreasonable settings to not end up gpu limited

[fleet heron]

dudes hands are so small tho

[tawny fiber]

@potent portal if you have a 5800x you could get a 5800x3d and get a generational uplift

a choice you can only do with amd and am4

[obsidian wigeon]

another way to get generational uplift is also buying into am5

[cyan ravine]

Yeah man, go for a Gigabyte M32U or FV43U, or LG C2

PC can definitely handle it

[limpid holly]

Can someone Recommend me a computer science student laptop
No budget fr

[cyan ravine]

You can use the old monitors still too for stuff like discord etc. if you wanted

[mossy venture]

12600k to 13600k lol

Same platform, 12600k similar to 5800x, 13600k similar to 5800x3d lmao

[tawny fiber]

yeah its a good gain

dk what you tried to insinuate lmao

[manic cloak]

i don’t really understand why people get the a60

isn’t it a little slow + a hit or miss ssd?

[mossy venture]

What do you mean? You said it's a thing you can only do on amd. I told you that that isn't true

There is no insinuation whatsoever

[mossy venture]

Speed of ssd doesn't really matter in gaming

You could have two identical systems aside from ssd, one with an a60 and one with a 990 pro or p44 pro and they'd be within margin of error different

Aside from a tiny bit of loading screen time

[mossy venture]

Still lost on this comment lmfao

[potent portal]

It's only slow for people that aren't gamers. If you're doing 4k video editing it might matter, but for gamers there's no real difference.

Unless you're the person that thinks that 0.1 second is worth paying double

[sharp temple]

I don't know where to ask this but I wanted to know what people's opinions are on selling custom built PCs? Is it worth it, how would one go about selling one and making money, where do I post listings?

[potent portal]

If you can find killer deals and you know how to make the PC look really good, you can make a decent profit.

Just look at all the PCs @austere condor posts, he builds those to sell. Part of the key is getting good at simple photo editing and camera settings, which you can see in his photos in #build-pics

[sharp temple]

I can learn those skills from my mom, but I'm worried it's not going to work out and then I spend a bunch of money on a new pc and can't sell it.

And where do I post listings? Everywhere? Facebook marketplace, eBay, Craigslist?

[potent portal]

You don't need to build the highest end stuff to make a profit. Start small. A 1660 super with a 10600k or something would be pretty cheap and still sell.

[sharp temple]

I have a 5600x 32gb ram and the mobo

[potent portal]

As far as where to post, yeah just plaster it all over imo

[sharp temple]

This is what I'm thinking

[potent portal]

Don't bother with a low profile cooler, it'll be worse than stock

The stock wraith cooler is fine enough

[sharp temple]

Idk if it will fit

[potent portal]

It would have to be a VERY small case to not fit the stock cooler

[sharp temple]

HYTE Revolt 3 Small Form Factor Premium ITX Computer Gaming Case with 700W Gold SFX Power Supply, Black https://a.co/d/0JJ8ZnY

You think this will fit it?

[manic cloak]

i mean for an os drive though, would it be crazy fast or nah?

[potent portal]

yes 100%

[potent portal]

The difference would only be in boot times. Here's an example.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/885523647400390686/1100323030443511818/image.png

[manic cloak]

so about a second but nothin special

[potent portal]

A lot can happen in one second, totally life changing lol

[sharp temple]

So I'd only shell out about $500 after tax

Sell for $1300?

[manic cloak]

imo

get a cheaper SSD

actually wait

[sharp temple]

Like?

Lol

[manic cloak]

i've been persauded to say the a60

[sharp temple]

a60?

[manic cloak]

but if you're reselling it

i'd keep the samsung tbh

[sharp temple]

Ok

Does 1300? Sound like an OK selling price?

[manic cloak]

but how are you reselling it

fbm?

[sharp temple]

WDYM?

[manic cloak]

you're buying parts to sell at 1300

[sharp temple]

Yeah

$300 profit

[manic cloak]

where are you selling this

is the question

[sharp temple]

Everywhere i can I want a bite

[manic cloak]

hmm

[sharp temple]

Why the hmm

[manic cloak]

get an AIO from amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-240Black-Specifications-Bearings-Suitable/dp/B0BLJHRVF5/ref=asc_df_B0BLJHRVF5/

[sharp temple]

Won't the wraith be enough?

[manic cloak]

my god

[sharp temple]

Lol

[manic cloak]

AIOs > air coolers

[sharp temple]

I know that

[manic cloak]

if people don't know how pc's work and etc

[sharp temple]

But that's extra I have to spend

[manic cloak]

no

it's actually less

53.90 for the aio

59$ for the wraith

[sharp temple]

I already have the 5600x and the wraith cooler

[manic cloak]

oh.

then nvm nvm

[sharp temple]

And the mobo and ram

All I'd need is the case and gpu

[manic cloak]

hmm, just a question why a 64 gb build

and not 32?

for ram.

[sharp temple]

Actually I meant 4×8 not 16

[potent portal]

Keep one of the ram kits for another build later

[manic cloak]

ah

[sharp temple]

Really?

Shouldn't if I sell it go for an am5 or 13gen build?

[potent portal]

Are you planning on doing a one-off build to sell or do multiple

[sharp temple]

One off, see what people like, see if this is what I want to do as a side gig

What do you think?

[manic cloak]

well

I mean if you're gonna be going am5 or 13th gen are we talking like 13100 + 6650xt or 13600k + 6750xt with ddr5 pairing here

same goes for am5

[potent portal]

If you might do more builds in the future, keep a kit. AM4 builds are still great cost/performance.

[manic cloak]

^

[sharp temple]

I'm not there yet, making another pc to sell.

So keep 16gb

[manic cloak]

plus

buy used stuff

i mean, nobody is gonna know its used unless it's physically shown right?

plus it's cheaper

[sharp temple]

Yeah, so this isn't a horrible idea?

[manic cloak]

so wait is it 2x8 kit's

or 2x16

[sharp temple]

2 2x8

[manic cloak]

alr alr ya keep a kit then

[potent portal]

This is fine for things with no moving parts, like SSDs, memory, and CPUs

Those will last forever

[manic cloak]

mobo's are hit and miss, psus too.

GPUs can be but most of the time it's people just selling cause of upgrading

[potent portal]

Indeed. Especially mobos with pins.

[manic cloak]

am4's you wouldn't need to worry about

only cpu's ofc but

[sharp temple]

So? You guys think making a pc and selling could be a good and worthwhile idea?

[manic cloak]

ehhh, might be hard

[potent portal]

I never recommend buying a used Intel mobo because of the fragile pins, but AM4 is fine

[manic cloak]

I mean i'll be completely honest with you

it's possible

but with other people selling pc's on fbm at cheaper prices, it's likely people won't look at your build first

whether it's people who do or don't know their stuff

[sharp temple]

@potent portal what's ur opinion?

[potent portal]

You know that motherboard doesn't fit that case right

[sharp temple]

What what

[manic cloak]

1. start off with pc building services. 2. sell pc's for an absurd price.

[manic cloak]

micro itx i think

atx*

[potent portal]

Yeah ITX only

[manic cloak]

nono it is itx

mb

[potent portal]

No not even micro atx

[sharp temple]

Oh...

Well I find another case

[potent portal]

I suggest the G360A. It comes with RGB fans which increase the "wow" factor when trying to grab the attention of buyers.

[manic cloak]

nono

i'd say the air 100

cheaper, smaller and well

[potent portal]

Montech? It's only a few bucks cheaper

[manic cloak]

I think it's got an extra RGB fan too

[manic cloak]

few bucks? isn't it 60$ vs 85?

plus he's gotta buy a psu but, a 600w no mod should do fine

[potent portal]

Not right now it isn't

[lone flame]

i had trouble ordering it from newegg, i had to cancel the order (still waiting for it to refund me), ordered it from amazon instead

[manic cloak]

@potent portal I think they price match with microcenter

I could be wrong though

[potent portal]

I wouldn't know, never had the opportunity to go to MC

It's only about a 12 hour drive away

[sharp temple]

I am 10min away from a microcenter

[lone flame]

i have 1 like 90 mins away

[manic cloak]

oh dude that's amazing

which store or you can check yourself

but i alr got the item and site pulled up

[sharp temple]

Denver

[manic cloak]

2 in stock but you can never be 100%

[sharp temple]

What item?

[manic cloak]

order online

[lone flame]

i think theres like 3-4 of them in ohio

[manic cloak]

air 100

[lone flame]

didnt know they existed

[potent portal]

So @sharp temple you'll have a hard time selling that PC for anything more than $1000 when someone can do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qz8xhk

You gotta cut costs to make a profit

[sharp temple]

$60 nice

[manic cloak]

ya i've never seen them inside

my st louis

MN btw

@sharp temple recommend buying online, go inside and pick it up. my lian li 205 mesh type c in black had an issue like there where they had 5 in stock online, but none in store.

[sharp temple]

I would like to use the stuff I have already, mobo cpu ram

[manic cloak]

can you return the mobo?

or is it too late

[sharp temple]

No it's like 3 years old

It was from and upgrade

[manic cloak]

damn

then even air 100 wouldn't work

[potent portal]

Right but I'm saying it's not worth what you're valuing it at, not suggesting a build

[sharp temple]

Darn

What would make me brake even?

[potent portal]

You could probably list it for $1200 and expect offers around $1000

[manic cloak]

he already has the cpu, it's cooler, the atx mobo, the ram, all he needs is a gpu, case and a psu.

[sharp temple]

If I can break even or just above I would like to make another one.

[manic cloak]

when listing it on fbm

list it for 1250

first sentence "Willing to negotiate prices, anything too low i'll save for another rainy day."

List only the CPU and GPU. Don't list anything else

and make sure you blast tf out of the rgb if you could

also get like clean shots, not some saved from snapchat quality with more carpet in the photo than the whole pc

you'll likely catch a mom or dad's attention and sell even

[fleet heron]

i just loaded up valorant and theres this annoying white bar on the top of my screen its like the part where you can close the game and it says valorant how can i remove it? i am fullscreened but it is still there

same with the windows taskbar

[manic cloak]

are you able to send an image

[fleet heron]

this how it looks

[manic cloak]

and you clicked the full screen in the top left?

right*

[fleet heron]

yup

[potent portal]

alt+enter

[fleet heron]

let me try that i just closed it

yup its fixed

[sharp temple]

Ok so at my local microcenter I'd shell out $560

[fleet heron]

thx

[sharp temple]

After tax

[potent portal]

If they do price match there you can get the GPU and PSU cheaper

[sharp temple]

They do

[manic cloak]

hold up

hold up

[potent portal]

Probably get a cheaper ssd also, they don't need 1tb

[manic cloak]

hold on the case

https://www.microcenter.com/product/648187/montech-sky-one-lite-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-black

not the prettiest

[potent portal]

Yeah that's a little blah

[manic cloak]

@sharp temple

[sharp temple]

Ok I'm listening

[manic cloak]

the x3

[potent portal]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/643497/montech-x1-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-black

[manic cloak]

or the fractual design focus 2

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-focus-2-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352193

stil llike 53$

[sharp temple]

$540

[manic cloak]

and something about the psu and card getting pricematched right?

[sharp temple]

That's what he sa8d

[potent portal]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/650161/crucial-p3-500gb-ssd-3d-nand-flash-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-30-x4-internal-solid-state-drive

[sharp temple]

Really 500gb?

[potent portal]

Yes, it's built to sell not to use lol

This way you can say "NVMe SSD" in the listing without spending too much

[manic cloak]

nobody's gonna know the storage amt unless they asked

or you list it

also use eye catching words

[sharp temple]

What's the links for price matching

[manic cloak]

"speedy, high end! (even though it isn't) fast ssd!"

[potent portal]

Price match this one https://www.microcenter.com/product/635284/asrock-amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-challenger-d-dual-fan-12gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card
To this https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx6700xt-cld-12go/p/N82E16814930059

[manic cloak]

different gpu's btw

ik the powercolor has RGB fans @sharp temple but 90% of the time nobody can see it unless it's vertical

[potent portal]

They both look like asrock challenger d dual fan to me

[manic cloak]

nono he has powercolor in his cart

[potent portal]

Ohhh ok

[sharp temple]

It was cheapest 6700xt

Wait

If I can price match

[potent portal]

Yeah and if they'll price match you'll save $20

[sharp temple]

It is cheaper

[manic cloak]

👍 if you wanna go through with it, looks good to me

[potent portal]

For the PSU https://www.microcenter.com/product/630801/thermaltake-toughpower-gx2-600w-600-watt-80-plus-gold-atx-non-modular-power-supply

[sharp temple]

600w

[manic cloak]

wait!!

[potent portal]

Which is fine for a 6700XT build, it works fine on 500W

[manic cloak]

swap to that psu mb LOL

[potent portal]

And in the listing you get to say "80 plus gold PSU"

[sharp temple]

So put price out for 1200 and take any offer above 1k

[potent portal]

That's what I'd do. If you want to sell quick, 1k would be a fine offer. Someone might offer $1100 if you wait a little.

[sharp temple]

Yay I'll see what I can do, thanks again guys!

[potent portal]

Happy to help as always

[manic cloak]

hmm so what’s the purpose of buying ssd’s with speeds of like 7500

if they don’t make a big difference at all

[potent portal]

They make no difference to average users whatsoever

Those are intended for extreme workstations that do 8k video editing in professional environments where every second counts

[austere condor]

buying brand new parts and then hoping to sell the finished system for a profit doesnt work

there's two ways you can build and sell PCs for a profit

you can do custom order commissions, where people come to you to build them a new gaming PC.

you can build and flip used gaming PCs. where you buy a used PC, or buy used parts, asemble a working PC, and sell it at a profit

buying new parts online, assembling it, and then hoping to sell it for more than you paid to build it doesnt work

for example --> #build-pics message

this is a used PC i bought, and then i cleaned up, added RGB fans, the custom cables, and a SSD

i paid $150 for the PC, and put about $75 into it for parts

i expect to be able to sell it for around $350

where as this was a commissioned build --> #build-pics message

someone asked me, they wanted me specifically to pick out all new parts and assemble them a new gaming PC.

they paid $4000 up front, and i ordered all the parts brand new, assembled it, and shipped the finished PC to them

.
i wouldnt recommend a 6700xt for a system you're trying to sell

you shouldnt be buying a brand new in box graphics card anyways for a system you are going to try and resell for a profit

the used market can be brutal, and you'll very likely lose money trying to sell that PC

also, most people looking to buy used market PCs, vastly prefer Nvidia GPUs. the 6700xt will be a major turnoff for most people

you'd have much better luck with a RTX 3060 or something than a 6700xt. people prefer the 3060 even though its slower

but thats the thing. you work with what you can find thats a good deal. for $330, a 3070ti is more than possible, which is a way better deal than a 6700xt

[runic spruce]

@little osprey u should get wireless cables https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574740748801540107/1125038076230651965/IMG_5108.jpg

[simple moon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Hanouzz/saved/cWrh99
This PC saved 700$ from the previous build I sent and is much better spec

[obsidian wigeon]

Not really no

Why would you need lots of cores for your task?

And that liquid cooler, or aio frankly sucks

[cyan ravine]

What the hell

[obsidian wigeon]

I gave em an xtx list with 7800x3d before

[cyan ravine]

I don't know where to start

[obsidian wigeon]

Same here

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wigeon]

It's too far gone

Budget is 3k for pc, peripherals and monitors

idk about use case tho so yeah

Imma just leave it be

[cyan ravine]

3500 let's see what I can do with 3500

[obsidian wigeon]

ngl buying a sound card in 2023 is one of the things that makes me wordless