building-and-recc-chat

[earnest olive]

your build is balanced as is

like 60% of your 3070 i guess

[gentle pollen]

Yeah I think I will probably wait till China and keep savings up till then to do the 7950x + 4090 upgrade.

[earnest olive]

why 7950x?

[gentle pollen]

Blender, World Painter, etc.

I have use for all core workloads.

[earnest olive]

fair enough

[gentle pollen]

And I don't need a 7950x3d considering the 7950x already gets way more then enough fps with a 4090 and a 7950x3d will hurt Blender and World Painter perf.

[earnest olive]

i'm kinda suspicious of the 7950x3d

i don't want windows game bar to be in charge of my cpu scheduling lol

[gentle pollen]

Any news on 14th gen or 8000s ryzen?

[obsidian wigeon]

14th gen is maybe a refresh of 13th

8000 we have absolutely zero details

[gentle pollen]

I heard about the refresh.

What time does AMD usually release their cpu lineup?

[potent portal]

It's mostly the chipset drivers though

[potent portal]

We're expecting 8000 series Q1 next year

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[potent portal]

I had to double check but we're also expecting IPC to improve by 15% from Zen4 to Zen5, in addition to a minor bump in clock speed.

[gentle pollen]

is 15% good or bad?

[gentle pollen]

Should I hold out for 8000 series for a big upgrade?

Save up a few grand and do that?

[potent portal]

It's decent, nothing huge but way better than some generational jumps

Absolutely wait for 8000

Never buy the first gen on a new platform

7000 has been literally catching fire

[gentle pollen]

fair.

Aight will do that then.

Will also give me some time to save up a bit extra for that sweet Aorus Master board.

So I can get my whole setup matching the shade theme.

Just ordered a GT210 off Amazon for $20. $25 after shipping.

Should arrive in a couple weeks.

[pale ruin]

how much could i sell

17 12700k evga 3080 12 gb 64gb dominator 3600 011 case 24 pin strimmer 8 pin strimmer nzxt 360 aio 9 ql120 fans msi z690 edge 2tb samsung ssd for?

corsair 1000 psu

ok thank you

sweet thanks for the input 👍

[gentle pollen]

lmao. I bought it so I can turn my 10700f into a server.

[runic spruce]

Prob 1100 - 1400 usd

[south cliff]

Is there a way to get the am4 mounting bracket for the deepcool gammaxx gt a-rgb I can’t really find it anywhere

And also the fan clip to put it on the cooler the fan

[fossil cedar]

Should come with one?

[gentle pollen]

Any issues with this PSU?

Plan to power a server using a 10700f + gt210

https://www.amazon.com.mx/YEYIAN-Fuente-Gaming-Raiden-YFR-45901/dp/B08128SLKJ/ref=mp_s_a_1_74?keywords=psu&qid=1684601036&refinements=p_36%3A9841542011&rnid=9754432011&s=electronics&sr=1-74

[mossy venture]

Yes

I would not but any random brand psu

[gentle pollen]

Hasn't Yeyian been around for a while?

[south cliff]

Got it free with a cpu I bought

Didn’t come with am4

Bracket

[fossil cedar]

Ah contact manufacturer then or maybe on Amazon or something

[fossil cedar]

I've literally never heard of them and i would not trust a no name psu with no data, if it's not on the cultists list don't even think about it

[gentle pollen]

Ooof.

What do you guys recommend on amazon.com.mx? Would like to spend as little as possible since I am doing this server on a tight budget.

$190 is my limit for PSU and SSD. Already picked out the SSD leaving $45-55 left for the PSU.

[heady kayak]

Why are you buying new parts

The only viable upgrade for your system is a larger SSD, why are you replacing the PSU?

[gentle pollen]

I can up the budget to around $80 if I wait another week but I'd prefer to spend as little as possible.

[heady kayak]

oh, it’s a new server

you should definitely up the budget

[gentle pollen]

Is there really that big of a difference for psus at such low wattage?

[heady kayak]

Yes

Don’t buy a bomb

[gentle pollen]

Alright.

I will wait an extra week for my next paycheck then.

What PSU do you guys recommend then with the budget upped to $80?

[south cliff]

K

[gentle pollen]

I will take this.

Whichever is cheapest that can offer stability and consistent power.

[compact girder]

I plan on upgrading my build here pretty soon, and I was wondering if the PSU I have would be able to handle it,

I have a EVGA 850W 80+ gold Supernova

my build with the parts im putting in:

MSI MPG X570S edge MAx Wifi with Am4 compatibility https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BYXFHLR/?coliid=IU0GKATN73H56&colid=Z9KHYQZ50CSJ&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_lstpd_35R70XH8RKNT62AMFSSS

AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 3D https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BYXFHLR/?coliid=IU0GKATN73H56&colid=Z9KHYQZ50CSJ&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_lstpd_35R70XH8RKNT62AMFSSS

Samsung 970 evo Pluss 1TB NVME m.2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MFZY2F2/?coliid=I1YGWA6NIEGIVN&colid=Z9KHYQZ50CSJ&psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_lstpd_35R70XH8RKNT62AMFSSS

Silicon Power 1TB - NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 3x4 https://a.co/d/aWXGNQS
ID-COOLING ZOOMFLOW 240X ARGB CPU Water Cooler ( Supporting AM4 ) https://a.co/d/2LXMO3m

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 64GB (2x32GB) 3600MHz https://a.co/d/h9otKO3

Zotac trinity OC 3080 ( Got it for $830 a while ago ) https://a.co/d/3p88WpT

My build, IM just wonding if my power supply would be able to handle this

[violet flame]

Hi im pretty new to pc could anyone tell me a budget build around 700 *

[fossil cedar]

Get a smaller/slower ssd

[fossil cedar]

It will but there's better chocies for basically every part, what's your budget to upgrade, what's your gpu and what do you want to upgrade/add?

[gentle pollen]

SSD has already been settled. Also it's a $20 difference between a gen 3 Kingston NV2 and the gen 4 S70 Blade.

[compact girder]

ops, forgot to add the GPU, its a Zotak RTX 3080 Trinity

[fossil cedar]

What are your current parts and what are you looking to upgrade?

[compact girder]

the parts above and what I was looking at

to get

[fossil cedar]

So upgrade cpu, ram, ssd and cooler, just wondering what you currently have to see if you can reuse any other parts

[compact girder]

current parts below

i7 9700k

z390 Aurous Pro

CPU air Cooler ( not sure on brand or name )

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 64GB (2x32GB) 3600MHz https://a.co/d/h9otKO3

Zotac trinity OC 3080 ( Got it for $830 a while ago ) https://a.co/d/3p88WpT

EVGA 850W 80+ gold Supernova

Silicon Power 1TB - NVMe M.2 PCIe Gen 3x4 https://a.co/d/aWXGNQS

stock case fans

LIAN LI LANCOOL 2 BLACK

So I plan on changing my CPU, Cooler, getting more storage, and a new mother bored

[fossil cedar]

how much are you looking to spend?

[compact girder]

up to 750-800

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

do you want any specific features for the motherboard? e.g. built in wifi, certain amount of m.2 slots etc (obvs at least 2)?

[compact girder]

Wifi and at least 2 M.2

[fossil cedar]

id do this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7F2c2m

[compact girder]

and that 360 AIO will fit?

[fossil cedar]

yep

in the front

[compact girder]

and all should be good with the PSU I said?

@fossil cedar what about this one https://a.co/d/9hofAPI

or you recommend the other one

same price

just no RGB

which Idc for

[fossil cedar]

It's worse

[compact girder]

ah

[fossil cedar]

and more expensive actually

ye

20$ more

[austere condor]

alright gamers
$950 pre-tax PCPP budget (pretty hard limit)
need CPU/GPU parity or better than a 5700g / RTX 3070
typical just a gaming PC, want to try and stick with Nvidia GPU, but could get away with an AMD if we can fit like a RX 6800
typical 1 TB SSD, basic stuff, wanna try and get some sort of RGB in it, basic fans, or whatever

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9kgMRv

Could spend $10 more for an A tier 750w RME, and throw in a 214xt for an rgb cpu cooler

[mossy venture]

Could spend $10 more for an A tier 750w RME, and throw in a 214xt for an rgb cpu cooler

[little osprey]

@potent portal, can I justify buying the 7600X now?

The non-X 7600 is $15 more than the 7600X

7600X is $200 RN so I might try to snag it while it's at this price

[potent portal]

Hang on let me check if that's another amazon scam link

Absolutely a bad seller

[little osprey]

Man

[little osprey]

Yeah I just looked

NVM then

[potent portal]

Most reviewers saying they never got the item

[little osprey]

Does Amazon ever refund scams like this?

[potent portal]

Yes but it can be a pain

Which is what a scammer counts on, they want you to give up and take the loss

[little osprey]

Amazon is literally promoting it 💀

I can't find the actual 7600X listing

[potent portal]

You can find it under "other sellers", the actual amazon listing has Jedi Survivor bonus too

But then that's also a bonus with the $215 7600 from wegg

[little osprey]

I was planning on this combo from Newegg

Had the board and CPU I wanted

Unsure if I'm saving that much doing this, but whatever

[potent portal]

Considering there's other B650 boards for $125 it breaks about even I think

[high vale]

I am building a new PC and the CPU is going to be the i7-13700 or i9-13900

I dont know what Motherboard to chose does anyone have suggestions? Looking to spend 400$ or less

[potent portal]

If you're just gaming there's no point in the 13900 when the 13600k gets within 3% of the performance for way cheaper (plus you don't need as much cooling)

Do you have any special needs like front USB C or wifi?

Another option https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8ncG3C/gigabyte-z790-ud-ac-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-ud-ac

Has both USB C and wifi

[high vale]

No I dont need wifi idk about usb c

[potent portal]

I still hesitate to recommend asrock on intel

Did it have the power limits set to intel spec out of the box? Because asrock was the only one doing that

[high vale]

Thanks for the suggestions guys I will check them out :))

[heady kayak]

They were set to 230/253 out of the box with properly set tau iirc

[potent portal]

That's intel spec

[heady kayak]

I'm currently running the default PLs with infinite tau

[potent portal]

What are his needs? He never said

[heady kayak]

infinite tau is nice to have

but aside from that, I wouldn't recommend any config changes for the average user

Intel does not void the warranty if you change tau

so it's an easily recommended setting imo

[high vale]

If your talking about me yea lmfao

[heady kayak]

tau being the time it'll spend running at PL2

[high vale]

Gaming and some video editing

[potent portal]

What program for editing

[high vale]

Premiere Pro

[potent portal]

Ok that's actually a good reason to get a higher tier processor. More threads is more better.

[high vale]

lmao

I will check it out 👍

[jaunty hill]

Hi, I need a tech help, I am building my gaming PC, I purchsed LIAN LI LANCOOL II MESH C RGB SNOW WHITE Tempered Glass ATX Case - White Color, Type C Included - LANCOOL II MESH C RGB-S and for the motherboard i got the MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI AM5 AMD B650 SATA 6Gb/s DDR5 Ryzen 7000 ATX

[heady kayak]

what do you need help with?

[jaunty hill]

the motherboard doesn't fit the case

so on the back sokets

[heady kayak]

Do the standoffs not line up?

[potent portal]

It definitely should

[heady kayak]

The standoffs are the little hexagonal bits that stick out of the case

[jaunty hill]

it is the IO sheild

if i removed it the motherboard fits

[heady kayak]

the IO shield should line up just fine

[potent portal]

I usually go in at an angle, so the shield goes into place first

[jaunty hill]

but then i can't add back the IO shield

[heady kayak]

Sometimes you need to push the IO shield in a bit more

or in some cases, carefully push the board against the shield

[jaunty hill]

I see

let me try that

thanks folks

[heady kayak]

Wait, this board has a preinstalled IO shield.

@jaunty hill which IO shield are you using?

that looks preinstalled to me, is it actually separate?

[jaunty hill]

it is preinstalled

it works now, I had to do a small push and it fit

[little osprey]

NO WAY DAWG 😭

[leaden mauve]

BRO IS HAS DDR3

THATS SUCH A KILLER DEAL

[obsidian wigeon]

lmaoooo

[little osprey]

"1k ssd drive"

[potent portal]

There's delusional, and then there's this

[mossy venture]

how do I get my monitor to display from my igpu? I have it plugged into the mobo and it isn't displaying anything

nvm got it

[fleet heron]

Nah it's got rgb def worth

[potent portal]

"""RGB"""

[fleet heron]

Yessss

[little osprey]

update talked down to 1050

[mossy venture]

that's pretty good

[little osprey]

with the added savings im upgrading storage n ram

also probably rgb cables because

feel like it

cool + ratio

women attractor

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

yeah babes, i have rgb cables, how could you tell?

[paper summit]

Doubt

[lyric thistle]

I repel women

[potent portal]

It'll attract women. Just not human women. Female moths are attracted to ultraviolet light for example, and there would be a good bit of that coming off all those RGB devices.

[paper summit]

Frfr

Keep dat rgb strapped

[little osprey]

naw dawg rgb cables women magnet

[frigid night]

@little osprey take away that RGB and you'll see your fps tank.

[vague oracle]

More like moth magnet

[little osprey]

mad + ratio, rgb = unlimited egg

[little osprey]

Does a vertical GPU mount look decent in a 4000D Airflow?

[flint bridge]

How to connect my NAS drive to the Starlink internet using wifi

[rich void]

That's completely subjective, but there are a bunch of Google image results

[little osprey]

Yeah, just wanted a general opinion

[rich void]

@earnest olive or any other mod we've got a scammer or hacked account here
#building-and-recc-chat message

[earnest olive]

thanks

[dusty cedar]

damnit

[little osprey]

Which one of you dimwits gave me the idea to use Cyberpower PC

[jagged ember]

You didn't build one yourself?

[little osprey]

@mossy venture

[little osprey]

Technically I did, just on their website

I didn't buy a pre built in a way

[mossy venture]

if something went wrong with the computer, it has a warranty

contact customer support and they will help, i apologize if something went wrong but no company has 100% foolproof quality control

[jagged ember]

It is a prebuilt, but it's already been mentioned

Contact customer support for issues with it

[mossy venture]

I also don't appreciate being called a dimwit for no reason

[jagged ember]

Not every issue comes up during their testing

[little osprey]

Nonono

See the thing is

I DIDN'T GET IT

[mossy venture]

That is also not a me thing... take that up with whatever carrier they ship through, and or cyberpower customer service

also, coming at someone doesn't get you anything.

[paper summit]

It's all your fault smh

[little osprey]

Sounds like Cyberpower is nothing but a scam

[paper summit]

No...

Well yes

But no

Lmaoo

[paper summit]

How long has it been

And is it marked as delivered

[mossy venture]

ok

if you would rather believe that than do a few simple things to get your pc or your money back, then go ahead

have you checked the tracking number?

[little osprey]

It was supposed to be delivered on Thursday, I checked the UPS website, and just a few minutes ago it was requested to be sent back to Cyberpower

Like wtf my guy

[mossy venture]

then you'll get your money back...

[rugged anvil]

how much do you guys reckon i can sell this for https://pcpartpicker.com/list/83Xjtn

[stoic island]

1500 maybe

including monitors

[little osprey]

i have to check the psu

[stoic island]

PSU is what matters most

[little osprey]

yeah, trying to find out what this thing has

i think its a 180w psu

[stoic island]

uh what

really?

[paper summit]

🗿

[little osprey]

man idfk im struggling over here 😭 sh mysterious as hell

[stoic island]

take a picture?

[lyric thistle]

Peepee poopoo

[fleet salmon]

I use pcpartpicker to check specs of certain items n wen I go to buy sum full tower cases says they are mid tower case wen I crosscheck specs on Newegg n Amazon website

[potent portal]

There's no set definition of "mid tower" or "full tower", it's marketing speak

[fleet salmon]

O I c @potent portal

[little osprey]

opened side panel, took picture of sticker

😼

[stoic island]

Bruh

You will need a new PSU

[little osprey]

hate this filter man

thats a moment

rip, ill buy him a new psu too lmao

[stoic island]

Tier list here
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[pseudo pollen]

Get at least c tier, but preferably b tier and higher depending on the parts

[frigid night]

In most cases, b tier will be fine. If you plan on overclocking then def go for a tier.

[potent portal]

If you're already spending for a top tier GPU you might as well get A tier too just in case

RMe has been a good price lately

[frigid night]

True true.

On topic of GPU, I'm trying to find a teardown video of the zotac 1080 blower, but I can't seem to find one. It should be pretty simple to tear down yeah?

[potent portal]

Most GPUs are more or less the same

The only major differences would be where the fan cables and rgb cables plug in

[frigid night]

Gotcha, I've not torn into a GPU yet, but this little thing runs wayyy to hot. I'm pretty sure the paste is done for

[potent portal]

It's about that age yeah

[upper condor]

They’re a lot less delicate than they seem(in my experience). Still be super careful but I’m ngl, I dropped a few screws here and there and it all still works perfectly lol

[gentle pollen]

S70 Blade 2TB compared to the SN770 2TB which ssd is better?

[potent portal]

You don't need to double post lol

[south cliff]

This might be a dumb question but is it possible for my gpu settings to automatically apply when i turn on my pc?

do i use msi afterburner

[fossil cedar]

you can do it in the amd drivers since youre on amd

[south cliff]

how

[rugged anvil]

what about without

[stoic island]

1200 maybe

[frigid night]

Customer brought this to me because it wouldn't turn on. He had his son replace the PSU, but still won't turn on. Can't wait to get it home and tinker with it.

I don't have any display devices that use VGA so I'm thinking I'll need to put the 580 in it.

[potent portal]

Ooh that should be fun

First thing I would check is the caps personally. They liked to use liquid caps in that era.

[frigid night]

Ah l, I'll check em out.

[vague oracle]

24 pin is unplugged, not sure if you did that or not

[potent portal]

Oh yeah it is lmao

If it wouldn't turn on before then it could have been the old power supply or mobo still

[frigid night]

Yeah I did that myself.

What I noticed off the bat though was there was no power plugged into either of the HDD.

I'm gonna pull it all out though and just set it up on a box and inspect it like falcie said to. If all looks good, I'll start putting it together with my known good PSU and go from there.

[manic cloak]

anyone wanna help me build a 1440p for ARK/Rust? My very antisocial cousin wants a PC, 1500ish build but the most money he can save is best, near an MC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y8FwNc

12700k can likely be upgraded to 13600k for 14$ more, and RAM could probably be adjusted.

[south cliff]

what does he do

[manic cloak]

well he can’t do much on a hp laptop with a i3 from 4-5 years ago, so it’s just minecraft, roblox and terraria atm. He wants to play Ark, rust, and some other games though

[south cliff]

well you can put the 12700k to a 12600k

save budget

[manic cloak]

He isn’t into COD/fortnite really

[manic cloak]

MC deal

[south cliff]

mm i see

get more ra,

ram

[manic cloak]

plus it’d probably be worth to upgrade to 13600k, considering the whole bundle is 349.99

[manic cloak]

also mc deal..

[dense brook]

Pc fans so loud. Noctua is most quiet n reliable?

[south cliff]

yes get more

of the same

[manic cloak]

mhm that’s what i plan

or even swapping it

[south cliff]

yeah i mean its fine

[manic cloak]

kinda like buying the bundle, then paying just a little more for 32 gb

[south cliff]

ot much performance di

dif

unless rgb

is what you want

[manic cloak]

should I stick with 3200 or 3600

for him

[south cliff]

32000

3200

[manic cloak]

idk if it even matters

alr

[south cliff]

like 1 fps diffrence in some games

[manic cloak]

RAM is a no brainer, but anything else really?

[south cliff]

cooler

maaybe

tho

[manic cloak]

also depending if the microcenter clerk rings it up total only on the CPU or whatsoever, I could probably upgrade to the 13600k for free

[manic cloak]

eh, i mean it’s one of the best coolers for the 12700k, otherwise the ag600/ak600

for air cooling atleast

[south cliff]

i like the ak 600 personally

but i would go with the 13600k

[manic cloak]

I have the pa120 se so..

[south cliff]

for 14 dollar extra

[manic cloak]

alright

[south cliff]

2 more cores and more threads will be nice

[manic cloak]

if they even let him upgrade like what i did back in December lmao

[south cliff]

ye

[manic cloak]

true. my cpu never gets above 20% usage which is kinda cool

[south cliff]

but not a bad build

for the price

maybe change psu to 850

df revlution

850

is good

and about the same price or 10 dollar diffrence

[manic cloak]

i see

[south cliff]

otherwise good build but ask someone else for recommendations because i dont know anything about drives and you could save money and jsut get a 6700xt

[remote fiber]

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-2tb-vortex/p/N82E16820226975?Description=nvme 1.4&cm_re=nvme_1.4-_-20-226-975-_-Product&quicklink=true

Debating between these two drives opinions? both 176 layer TLC, comparable read speeds both micron nand
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-2tb-mp600-pro-lpx/p/N82E16820236837?Item=N82E16820236837&SoldByNewegg=1

[obsidian wigeon]

I would get neither

Just go with mp33 and be done with it if you don't need the speed

ok, 1.5k build?

[remote fiber]

might as well stick with my sata drives then

[obsidian wigeon]

6700XT is very underwhelming for 1.5k pc lol

@manic cloak https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d6jRQ6

Grab this instead for 1.5k

MC might get you better deals though, but the general idea should be like this

[cyan ravine]

Hard pass.

Oh the mushkin would be alright

But SN770 is probably better if randoms aren't high

But the mp600 is a definite hard pass

[remote fiber]

controller bad on the mp600?

[cyan ravine]

It's the price

Not worth 130 when there's cheaper options

Premium gen 4 I would consider like, p44 pro or p41 platinum at 130, and that's only on the grounds if you ever find them at that price, otherwise 110 is about as high as I'd go

[remote fiber]

what am I looking for when looking at these drives?

[paper summit]

X58 can't use nvme silly

[remote fiber]

I mean they all usually list iops, but controllers are usually absent and same with cache

[cyan ravine]

Cos unless you're doing like, large file moving, or like 4K video editing/scrubbing gen 4 just makes no sense

Let alone gen 5

[remote fiber]

I'm sure we can solder something together to make it work

[cyan ravine]

Random reads and more importantly sustained speeds are a bigger quality factor than whether it's gen 4 or from a name brand

[fossil cedar]

Mp33 is far better than a sata drive, if you want a faster one, in the US I'd go for the soligm p41 plus

[untold vessel]

Alrighty Tech Wizards, I need your expertise on what the best use of money would be to upgrade this current system:

[CPU] Intel i7-11700K
[GPU] EVGA 3060ti XC
[RAM] 16 GB 3200Mhz CL18

GOAL OF UPGRADE: To play Cyberpunk 2077 in 4k at Max Settings (using DLSS Super Performance Mode) and gain much higher framerates.
(Currently sitting at 45-55 FPS at 4k Max Settings using DLSS Super Performance Mode)

Current decided upgrade: Spend $50-$100 on upgrading RAM. Currently thought-of upgrade: https://www.newegg.com/oloy-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820821212 (64 GB of 3200Mhz CL16 for $109.99? Whew!)

More Information: This is my Best Friend's PC. He doesn't know much about Hardware, but he does have $50-$100 to spare for an upgrade. The first thing that comes to my mind is to save his money to buy a better GPU, but he's also expressed frustration about not being able to run Discord & Cyberpunk simultaneously without lag on either screen. Maybe a RAM upgrade is more feasible than a GPU upgrade at this time? What do you all think?

[cyan ravine]

32gb ram, 4090

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

New psu

[untold vessel]

Can always count on you, Fishlix!

[untold vessel]

Which upgrade first? Buy RAM now?

[obsidian wigeon]

GPU first

[cyan ravine]

This bit especially if you have anything like, sub 850w

[obsidian wigeon]

It'll make the most impact

[cyan ravine]

Ram first 100%

[stoic island]

Ram now GPU later

[untold vessel]

You guys are awesome

[obsidian wigeon]

Well conflicting opinion, so Imma follow with the other two lel

[cyan ravine]

Np

[untold vessel]

Why RAM now and GPU later (besides lack of funds) though?

Most significant performance increase will be immediately seen with RAM?

[fossil cedar]

Yeah ram first

[cyan ravine]

16gb isn't enough for gaming these days, it's quickly becoming redundant

[fossil cedar]

Also funds

[obsidian wigeon]

cries in 12gb ram

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-skill-tissue-gif-22242558

[cyan ravine]

Buy a 32gb kit then sell your 16gb kit and you'll be net more money afterwards

[obsidian wigeon]

am sad and i shall eat tissue

[untold vessel]

Alrighty, RAM it is, then. I've heard that any speeds beyond 3200Mhz Cl16 have insignificant returns at 4k. Is this true?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

On 11700k especially, you hit a wall basically at 3800-ish gear 1

[untold vessel]

3200Mhz Cl16 it is. Which 32 GB kit should I buy?

[remote fiber]

mp33 doesn't have a cache?

[cyan ravine]

Silicon power gaming 32gb

This kit and only this kit

It's like, $50

[cyan ravine]

Dramless isn't a big deal on SSD's, yes, slightly less reliable, but mp33 is insanely good value for an nvme

[untold vessel]

This guy? https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Turbine-3200MHz-288-pin/dp/B07RWMKX94/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

[cyan ravine]

Close

One sec

[stoic island]

Don't worry too much about dram when it has hmb on budget drives

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

For 4090, just pick the cheapest

As long as it's not a palit

[untold vessel]

Woohoo! I purchased this exact same kit for my brother's build 7 months ago! Too bad it was $79.99 back then

[cyan ravine]

Palit gamerock is disgusting for a 4090, worse than a ventus imo

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it's still the cheapest and best kit

[untold vessel]

Purchased! Friend's birthday is May 28th. He'll be super happy

[cyan ravine]

[paper summit]

Two days before mine

[untold vessel]

Should I have gotten the RBG one for $9 more? Any differences between the kits? https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Turbine-3200MHz-288-pin/dp/B07RWMKX94/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

[paper summit]

@remote fiber send me ewaste

[remote fiber]

just seems weird 1800/1500mb 220/200k iops drive w/o cache for 70 bucks is the recommendation

[cyan ravine]

Aesthetics

[stoic island]

It's because it is 70$ for 2tb

[untold vessel]

Personally I'd go with the cleaner look of this particular non-rgb model over the RGB one, but I know he loves anything with glowy lights

[cyan ravine]

Windows is out of the box limited well beneath what any of these drives can actually do

[cyan ravine]

Yeah I'm the same way tbh, rgb has long died in my heart lol

[stoic island]

It's cheap, and most people realistically don't see any improvement beyond it

[remote fiber]

there we go answer i was looking for

[cyan ravine]

So unless you have a specific niche to use more than a basic ssd then yeah, it's basically a paperweight investment

[paper summit]

I paid for xtremes to turn the rgb off

[cyan ravine]

Like 4k video or big file transfer

[stoic island]

Direct storage still not here :(

[cyan ravine]

Yeah direct storage will change things

But at the same time a long way away until it'll ever truly matter

[stoic island]

Supposed to have changed thing half a year ago and still no widespread implementations

[remote fiber]

this is for my daily btw, probably won't upgrade the drive for like 5 years again

[cyan ravine]

Early directstorage benchmarks show marginal improvements over basic m.2's but early benchmarks also don't fully utilise it yet

[cyan ravine]

Yeah by then, gen 4 probably matters

And by then we probably have gen 6 or 7

[paper summit]

Geeze

[untold vessel]

Me too. I've been doing minimalistic RGB for about 6 months now. I love the Clean look of the blackout OLOY Blade RAM. 'Got it in my $999 ABS Prebuilt that went on sale 2 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdIe1yGPud4

[remote fiber]

I'm still using a mx500 1tb from like 2016 rn

lol

[cyan ravine]

Ooo oloys are so nice

I used to own a set

I'll agree those are, exceptionally nice looking for rgb

[untold vessel]

Love 'em to bits. So clean

[fossil cedar]

HBM takes like 50mb ram and acts like one over nvme

[remote fiber]

went with this instead so i can use it on my windows xp machine
https://www.newegg.com/p/1Z4-000J-04X20?Item=9SIA8P4JTE1818&Description=20tb hard drive&cm_re=20tb_hard drive-_-9SIA8P4JTE1818-_-Product&quicklink=true

[paper summit]

Fire

Need

[untold vessel]

Anyone have the best PC Airduster recommendation? I'm buying one now

[earnest olive]

i don't know about best, but i personally use the slightly older version of this and am very happy with it

https://www.amazon.com/XPOWER-Inflating-Detailing-Performance-Eco-Friendly/dp/B086WRHRSJ/

important note: if you use this on a pc, you should use your fingers to hold your fans stopped while blowing on them and use the low power setting; the high power setting is powerful enough to instantly destroy a case fan's motor/bearings if the fan is not stopped from spinning freely (don't ask me how i learned this)

[manic cloak]

ill send this but what i'm thinking it might be possible to like swap out the motherboard for that one you put on the list, same with the CPU for the 13600k instead.

considering I did that with a 12600k to a 12700k to my current 13600k back in December, but from what I heard they kinda cut down on that stuff

also what's wrong with the 215 case being 62.99?

but tbh, for him having a 1500$ budget I find it overkill considering I doubt he's gonna be gaming with stuff like a 6950xt, plus we gotta save him money for the monitor lmao

[jagged hill]

hi! i decided to turn my turntable deck into a handheld!

with desktop graphics cards as an option for the “boost mode”

i only need to wait for the backplate since a friend is printing it

[potent portal]

A handheld... with a desktop GPU

You come up with the craziest ideas

[obsidian wigeon]

that's more like a table pc at this point

[unborn mesa]

anyone have an idea how i can speed up my boot time

it used to be like minimum 15 seconds and now its taking up to 3 minutes

[flint sapphire]

[rough loom]

what do you consider a boot? like everything loaded on the desktop or even getting to the desktop?

[unborn mesa]

just the lock screen

[rough loom]

is the memory training alot?

[unborn mesa]

no clue what that means

[flint sapphire]

Ddr5 sometimes does weird training boot loops a buddy of mine had a similar issue

[rough loom]

basically if your memory timings are being remembered by your bios

[unborn mesa]

how do i check that

[flint sapphire]

It would usually be a post code on the mobo or just the memory light lit up

[rough loom]

if your memory lights or mobo codes are getting cycled like 3-4 times your bios probably is doing a struggle

[unborn mesa]

ohh

[rough loom]

could try updating your bios

[unborn mesa]

ill check the lights here when i get to my pc

[flint sapphire]

Everything else in windows feels snappy though?

No weird super slow to open programs

[unborn mesa]

yea everything is fine once i get to windows

[unborn mesa]

sorta but not really noticable

[flint sapphire]

[unborn mesa]

like rn my headset software was loading for a good minute but i had to keep closing and reopening for each option i wanted to change

[flint sapphire]

Oh that’s fine I was worried you were opening a program only to be greeted by a blank page for a minute

[unborn mesa]

nah it just had the loading wheel in the middle for too long

[flint sapphire]

I’ve seen windows corrupt in some wild ways

[unborn mesa]

would of been the wildest id seen

[flint sapphire]

Check for the boot loop though like mera was saying

[rough loom]

windows could be unhappy, your boot drive could be wonky, funky ram doing unhappy things, Bios being unhappy and needing a clear/update. Really could be multiple things

[flint sapphire]

Could even be a overheating cpu in some cases

[rough loom]

I actually had a messed up stick of ram probably for many months that only under certain circumstances would cause issues.

windows would recover from issues, all sorts of stuff without little problem

[unborn mesa]

So nothing abnormal with the mobo lights

[flint sapphire]

No little red light that stays on

[unborn mesa]

Nope

Might stay on longer than the rest

[flint sapphire]

Nothing like that

[unborn mesa]

Nope

But now im having trouble shutting down

[rough loom]

sounds like a boot drive/windows thing

[unborn mesa]

Might be

[flint sapphire]

Might wanna reinstall windows

Usually cleans up issues

[rough loom]

well worse case install windows 11 fresh

[unborn mesa]

Didnt wanna do that if i could avoid it

[rough loom]

and you have a crispy OS

[unborn mesa]

Yea then gotta download all the apps

[rough loom]

also test your drive for how healthy it is

just incase

[unborn mesa]

Yea gonna do that next

If i have to ill swap it out and install windows new

[rough loom]

yeeeh

[flint sapphire]

Just for giggles can you check your cpu temps? (If you have a aio)

[unborn mesa]

Yea

One sec

[unborn mesa]

51c

[flint sapphire]

Alright just making sure it’s okay

Had a couple pumps fail recently on me

[unborn mesa]

core clock rate is jumping from 3800mhz to 4490mhz tho soo

[unborn mesa]

ahh makes sense

[rough loom]

it does that as it only needs a couple cores at high frequency

[unborn mesa]

ah

any idea what else i could try?

[rough loom]

so, things I would try is if you havent in a while. Updating your bios and doing all your fresh bios settings

next test your drive to make sure its healthy

[flint sapphire]

Bios would be the best bet ^

[unborn mesa]

bios time is up to 23 and thats lowest ive seen it since it started acting weird

[rough loom]

I mean thats pretty fast

actually no its not nvm

Mines so fast I can hardly see the screen to hit Del

[unborn mesa]

yea but it jumped from 3 seconds up to 900 the first time it was weird

[flint sapphire]

Yeahhhhh I was gunna say

[unborn mesa]

usually same

[rough loom]

ok yea, I would take a swing at new bios

[unborn mesa]

but now i can go touch grass and come back and its still on bios screen

[rough loom]

yea, you can try reseating or testing your ram too

[unborn mesa]

ah ill do it after bios then

[flint sapphire]

What nvme are you using as a boot drive (assuming you’re using a nvme)

[unborn mesa]

oh there was a "recent" bios update

[unborn mesa]

uh lemme check

[rough loom]

it really makes me think your fighting with your boot drive though

[flint sapphire]

980 pro 2tb inc

[unborn mesa]

its a samsung something

[flint sapphire]

[rough loom]

did you ever update your firmware on that 980?

[unborn mesa]

samsung 980

[rough loom]

if you didnt...it could be dead

[flint sapphire]

Oh crap

[unborn mesa]

ayo what

[flint sapphire]

Just had to jinx it

[rough loom]

those things had a bad batch that burnt themselves out

and the firmware was there to fix it

[unborn mesa]

the pros or the 980 in general

[flint sapphire]

It was generally the pros, the first gen but it also ended up effecting other drives

[unborn mesa]

hmm

[flint sapphire]

Download Samsungs magician software

[rough loom]

well could try the magician and update your drives firmware first

[flint sapphire]

It’ll update firmware and check drive health

[unborn mesa]

yea im clueless when it comes to storage

[unborn mesa]

oo nice

[rough loom]

since I boguht my 980 pro its had a couple updates

[flint sapphire]

Lmao

[unborn mesa]

i only got the one samsung ssd

[flint sapphire]

I have the same drives mera, just my 980 pro is 1tb

[rough loom]

980 was overkill realistically but w/e XD

[flint sapphire]

Running the 860s in raid 0

[unborn mesa]

whats raid 0

[flint sapphire]

Speed

[unborn mesa]

ah

there is an update for it 😅

brb pc shutting off

[flint sapphire]

Gl

[unborn mesa]

well it went down

but not much

[flint sapphire]

You should be able to see what programs are causing boot time issues

[unborn mesa]

eh even if i turn them off it stays the same so

[flint sapphire]

Bios time

[unborn mesa]

everything is disable in my startup tab in task manager

[rough loom]

I dono my only other guess would be your windows install is unhappy or bios update

[flint sapphire]

It’s probably windows.

[rough loom]

cuz I think im faster than you on a standard Sata ssd

[unborn mesa]

my 10 yr old laptop is faster

ah cant update bios atm since i lost my flash drives

[rough loom]

if you have gigabyte their app center bios app works great

dono about other boards

[unborn mesa]

asus board

[rough loom]

asus probably has something similiar

[unborn mesa]

no clue

[rough loom]

have you tried clearing your Cmos and redoing your bios setitngs

thats easy and fast

[unborn mesa]

yea it did speed it up from 900 down to like 120

but slowly its been cutting down

[rough loom]

where do you even check bios time?

[potent portal]

How full is this drive? Some cheap SLC drives will slow down dramatically when they're 50% full

[unborn mesa]

About 50%

[potent portal]

Do you know what model drive it is?

[unborn mesa]

More or less around the middle

[rough loom]

oh

[unborn mesa]

Just the base 980 model i think

[unborn mesa]

Still faster

[potent portal]

Samsung 980?

That drive has serious issues active right now

[unborn mesa]

😐

[unborn mesa]

Yea

That what it says it is

[potent portal]

Have you updated the firmware since you got it?

[unborn mesa]

My second one is a wd sn750

[unborn mesa]

Just a couple mins ago

[potent portal]

Ok what does samsung magician say the drive health is?

[rough loom]

did you turn xmp and rebar and everything back on as well

[unborn mesa]

In the bios?

[rough loom]

yea

[unborn mesa]

Nah i missed the bios screen 😅

I accidentally just hit the sleep button instead of shutdown soo

[rough loom]

also something like crystaldiskinfo should tell you how healthy that drive is

[potent portal]

Yeah or samsung magician, which you would have used to update the drive

[rough loom]

magician leaves info out though

[potent portal]

What about when you click the smart info button

[unborn mesa]

where is that at

[flint sapphire]

@potent portal

[unborn mesa]

oh found it

everything got the blue circle around it

[unborn mesa]

slowly catching up

[rough loom]

all i can think is your bios was unhappy with itself in some odd way

[unborn mesa]

Havent updated it so it might be the last push to get it back down

Found my flash drives so thats next

Any idea what this could be?

[rough loom]

its if your using bitlockers encryption

on windows

did you just update your bios?

[unborn mesa]

nah for some reason the file copied to the flashdrive with 0 mbs of data so

had to redo it

[rough loom]

gotcha

[unborn mesa]

Says not a proper bios file

[rough loom]

did you label it per asus's instructions?

and is it the correct revision for your mobo

[unborn mesa]

Has a rename thing with the download thats what i used

[unborn mesa]

As far as ik it is

[rough loom]

hmm

I would just copy the bios file over manually and rename it to however asus says to do it

if you have TPM on you might have to turn it off for that

[unborn mesa]

its off

trying it again

still havent done it but its all over the place

[rough loom]

thats the only thing I can think might help

unless your fighting with something going bad

[unborn mesa]

Hey

My bios quality fixed itself

Was all blurry

[rough loom]

strange

when I updated mine it fixed the weird resolution issues i had

I would still attempt to figure out how to update

[unborn mesa]

13.9

I got it updated

Gonna see on a straight to windows boot

[unborn mesa]

Yea mine was blurry

10.1

[rough loom]

that an old set of bios

[unborn mesa]

Yea last time i updated was when i put my 5900x into it

Soo about a year ago 😅

[rough loom]

I try to check mine every few months

[unborn mesa]

I was planning on doing it but whenever i had time i never did

Cuz i updated bios on the other pc i built last week

Whats d.o.c.p for

[potent portal]

It's what Asus calls XMP

It runs your memory at the rated speed

[rough loom]

you will need to go hunt for Re-bar, and turn XMP/DOCP on. and if your windows 11 make sure TPM is on

[potent portal]

TPM will be on by default

[rough loom]

I always double check, my gigabyte bios its always been on since windows 11 launched

cant speak for others, but good if it is

[potent portal]

Good point, doesn't hurt to check

[unborn mesa]

Has search feature 😎

[unborn mesa]

Ah thought so

Windows 10 tho so

[calm heron]

I installed a new ram into my pc and it doesnt turn on

Just an orange light from my motherboard

[paper summit]

Clear cmos

[mossy venture]

What's the ram and what mobo

[paper summit]

Little battery on your board

[mossy venture]

And is the ram fully in the slots? Did the locks click?

[calm heron]

Yea it clicks

[mossy venture]

What ram/mobo/cpu

[calm heron]

Gimme mins

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali560/p/N82E16883360190?Item=N82E16883360190&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-190-_-05252023

Its this one

Wanted to install Kingston FURY Renegade Black 32gb

so ?

[mossy venture]

What specific speed

[calm heron]

3600

Ddr4

[mossy venture]

Alr, did you take out the old ram?

[calm heron]

Yes

[mossy venture]

Did you put the new ram in the same slots as the old ones (not sure if there's two slots or 4 on that mobo, if there's two sorry for the stupid questions)

[calm heron]

Its ok

There are 4 slots

2 black 2 gray

[mossy venture]

Alr, did you use the same slots as the old ram was in?

[paper summit]

His bios is prob still trying to apply his old rams xmp

[calm heron]

Yah

[calm heron]

Not sure

[mossy venture]

Yeah try clearing cmos, take out that lil silver battery on the motherboard

[calm heron]

Where can i find it

Im still new into these stuff

Sorry

[mossy venture]

It's probably right side of mobo

It's a little silver circle

Maybe not super little, a bit more than a cm in diameter I'd say

[mossy venture]

Maybe below gpu

Or could be left side, it varies per mobo

[mossy venture]

Ah I see it

It's in an awful spot

Left side behind gpu

[calm heron]

Could you please highlight it

[calm heron]

Ugh

What should i do with it

Remove it ?

[mossy venture]

That thing at the bottom of it might be able to pop it out if you press down on it

Silver thing immediately below the battery touching it

If it doesn't move with relatively light pressure don't push too hard, it might not be to pop it out

[calm heron]

It wont budge

[mossy venture]

Then try using a flat head screw driver to lightly wedge it out, just be careful. Technichwlly anything thin and flat would work, I used a Swiss army knife, but screw drivers safer

[calm heron]

I should remove it ?

[mossy venture]

Yeah, just for a little bit

15 seconds I think is what it is

Then you just pop it back in

[calm heron]

Got it

Thanks for the help

[mossy venture]

Happy to

[potent portal]

?cmos

[jolly river]

How to clear CMOS (works for AMD and Intel)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[potent portal]

For reference 😉

If you're doing the battery method you usually want to do 15 minutes, not seconds. It can finish a clear in 5-10 minutes but 15 is good to be safe.

15 seconds is for the jumper or button

[paper summit]

I always use the jumper lol

[potent portal]

It's nice when it works

I prefer the button, if one exists

[paper summit]

I dont have one on my b550f

But my board from 2014 does

Makes sense

[potent portal]

Make a button

[paper summit]

I will

[potent portal]

You can wire your case reset button to the jumper points

[paper summit]

I could just make it my reset button

OH LMAO

[potent portal]

Yeah lol

[paper summit]

Great minds think alike 🗿

[calm heron]

I have resett the cmos but still my pc wont show in screen

The orange light is gone

[potent portal]

It might take a few minutes to train the memory

It was unplugged while the battery was out right?

[calm heron]

No

[potent portal]

Ah, well that usually is required

[jagged ember]

Unplug it and reset cmos

[calm heron]

🙃

[potent portal]

It can also help speed things along by holding the power button for a few seconds while it's unplugged, drains the power faster

[calm heron]

What im i suppost to do then

Unplug the ram thrn turn off the pc?

[potent portal]

Unplug the pc

[calm heron]

Then

[potent portal]

Then this

[calm heron]

While the ram is pluged ?

[potent portal]

The ram is irrelevant to this process

[calm heron]

Ok

I did everything and stll

Man

Used jumper removed battery

And still not working

[potent portal]

Ok, and you said the orange light turned off already while it's trying to start? Are any others on?

[calm heron]

The light is already gone

Everything works but nothing show up on my screen

[potent portal]

In that case try another video port on the gpu, sometimes it'll default to a different one

Or maybe just press F1

Which would accept the default values and continue boot process

[calm heron]

My moniter says no signal

My keyboard mouse aint working

[potent portal]

There's 2 more things to try. Shut it down and take one stick of memory out and see if it works with 1 stick. If that still doesn't work clear cmos again. I've seen it take a dozen tries before it finally worked before, it can be finicky.

[calm heron]

Now my pc wont boot up

Sweet

My power supply blow up

Just to install simple ram made that

[obsidian wigeon]

Did it do anything? Like a pop

Just swapping ram shouldn't pop the psu

[calm heron]

It wont boot

Like at all

Nothing

[potent portal]

It's plugged back in, with the power switch on " I "?

[calm heron]

Yea

[potent portal]

Battery is back in?

If so then I'm guessing something came loose while you were digging around in there, like the power switch or the 24 pin

[calm heron]

Idk anymore

[cyan ravine]

These don't look fully inserted

The clips are still halfway up

[calm heron]

Huh?

Well its a prebuilt one

[potent portal]

But it was a new kit of memory right? He's right, they don't look fully seated.

[cyan ravine]

I'm thinking you reseat the ram properly and it's gonna turn on again

[potent portal]

When it's all the way in the clips will be in the same position as the others

It can take a little force to get in and you might hear a light grinding sound, that's normal

[cyan ravine]

Ram slots also * click * when you seat the ram properly

[calm heron]

People the problem isnt the ram anymore

The whole pc wont boot

[cyan ravine]

If a psu detects a short it won't turn on

[calm heron]

I cant get any power

A short ?

[potent portal]

Power touching ground

Like what can happen when pins aren't contacting properly

[mental terrace]

Hello peeps, I've been having this issue with my new pc I built and I was hoping someone might have some insight in how I can potentially fix it. So, as I attempted to boot up and play WoW on my new rig, my computer turned all black with red hazy outlines of the past scene before crashing and shutting down after like 20 minutes. The first time this happened I got a cpu overheating warning. I went ahead and put more thermal paste on my cpu and tried it again. The game lasted longer this time, but then crashed again in the same way, but didn't give me the same warning. Now, my processor, motherboard, ram, case, ssd are all new. my power supply and my graphics card are carry overs from my past build. I'm wondering if for some reason my stock air cooler isn't efficient enough to play an mmo like that? My previous rig had a watercooler, but I can't use it on this pc. I've played I believe less demanding games before on this new pc for hours on end, so I'm pretty sure it isn't a graphics card issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[gentle pollen]

@analog hearth, love the pc keycap I've actually been eyeing one myself. How does it feel?

[fleet heron]

Same!

There adorable

Especially the ones with the magnetic keyboard

[analog hearth]

it’s been great. I would have gone with a different linear switch but I already had Gateron Reds laying around. the switches mixed with the foam mod, lube in the switches, and PBT key caps, it gives off more of a cream sound rather than a thoccy sound

my boss convinced me to get COD MW2 so I decided to build a keyboard for it

[analog hearth]

get one. just don’t go with big brands like Corsair or Razer

tip: if the company makes PC components, their keyboards are usually overpriced

you can actually get double the features that a Corsair K65 Lux has for half the price if you go with Royal Kludge

[formal mica]

Anyone seen this before

[fleet heron]

Ah no I already have a keyboard I just also want a mini computer on mine too lol

But you've got the rk 61 right?

[analog hearth]

RK61, RK87, Keychron V3 and V4

I main the V3

RK61 for gaming though

[fleet heron]

Oh, one for each day of the weem

Wekk

Wekk

Week

Oml

What are you most satisfied with?

[jagged ember]

Having tried the rk61 vs keychron k2 I would say keychron

On stock settings

With extra mods though not sure which would be better

[paper summit]

My sister managed to accidentally pick out an rk61 lmao

[jagged ember]

Accidentally?

Like oopsie I pressed the wrong button?

[paper summit]

Nah I told her to find a keyboard she liked

Out of all the crap board on amazon she chose that

With reds lol

[jagged ember]

Well, it's not a bad budget keyboard tbf

[paper summit]

Yeah, I meant it as a good thing lol

[paper summit]

It just came in

safe to say im jealous

[jagged ember]

lmao

don't mod it for her

[paper summit]

LMAO

[fleet heron]

The rk61 is honestly not back

Bad

With some lube and time it can get much better

[paper summit]

I'm not lubing the keyboard for her

She's 11 years old and wouldn't even notice a difference

[fleet heron]

Yea fair enough

[fleet heron]

bro my wifi speeds are so slowww

[untold vessel]

Should I buy the A-2 or the A-2’S’? I can’t find any real differences besides more free nozzle attachments on the A-25

[earnest olive]

idk, i have the A-2 and it's fine

[untold vessel]

Tysm for the response

[untold vessel]

Are there any differences?

I’m at work and can’t find any

[earnest olive]

like i said

i don't know

[potent portal]

Might need to reinstall Java. Ideally remove all installed versions and install the latest.

[broken lake]

Hey, I got a quick question if anyone is around to answer it

If I am currently rocking a 1080ti but wanna get a nicer card what would the move be with about ~$1000 for budget

Give or take like $200

[untold vessel]

What’s your daily use case looking like?

[flint sapphire]

odd that’s not a steam deck

[obsidian wigeon]

evga keeb with keychron keycaps

hmm

[obsidian wigeon]

mech?

or just membrane

[dusty cedar]

@tidal moth what is that control box under your desk?

next to your headset

lookin for specifics but thanks

the placement of that gave me an idea on where to relocate my dmx controller at though

looks like some sort of proprietary xlr port on the front of it on their website. never seen a femal plug that looked like that before. :/

found it i think

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Focusrite/Scarlett-Solo-USB-Audio-Interface-Gen-3-1500000280086.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWRWXMP&msclkid=f8c6faf14c4317fd57319e80fc07f05f&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=**LP - Shop - Pro Audio - Recording Gear&utm_term=4578778808020864&utm_content=1500000280086 | Focusrite Scarlett Solo USB Audio Interface (Gen 3) | %24119.99 USD

damn that link is ass

[gentle pollen]

If you wanna get as much perf as you can you'd be able to get a 7900XTX or RTX 4080 for around $1100-1200.

Otherwise I am pretty sure you can get a 7900XT for $1000

[mossy venture]

7900xtx is and has been sub $1000, 7900xt around $800

[little osprey]

I have a question i have the 7900XT by gigabyte and a Freesync monitor. The Adaptive sync shows "On" in the monitor menu do i have to turn on Adaptive sync Compatible in the Adrenaline Software from AMD?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes

[formal mica]

You know didn't even think of that solution I was reading online to update to windows 11 since a windows 10 problem but after updating still had the problem then did this one can't remember what it was at the moment and still having problems I'll try to update Java when I get home thx

[tidal moth]

You are kidding it’s a scarlet 2i2

It’s like the most popular audio interface on the market

[broken lake]

Lian li a4 h2o

[jagged ember]

In what way is that standard XLR plug proprietary ?

And on that note, is this the plug you usually see?

[dusty cedar]

That's not standard. There's a big fat hole right in the middle of it

[vague oracle]

That is standard

The big hole is for a 1/4” jack

[jagged ember]

dude doesn't know his audio interfaces

[dusty cedar]

sorry i don't know whats common on the consumer market and not professional market. my bad

this is what is common

this also is what is common

you wont find anyone in the profesional market using xlr plugs like that one you provided

[worn wave]

Yes you do lmao.

[vague oracle]

Bro, I’m literally in the professional market and I see them all the time

[worn wave]

XLR3 with 1/4" jacks are incredibly common.

[vague oracle]

I’m in and out of professional recording studios almost weekly and I see them everywhere

[dusty cedar]

i havent seen them so idk what to tell you

[worn wave]

Your personal experience does not dictate weather or not they are an industry standard. They absolutely are.

[dusty cedar]

so to me, its not common

[vague oracle]

Welp they’re industry standard for the most part 🤷‍♂️

[jagged ember]

Dude, they're an industry standard

Again, you not having seen any doesn't mean they're not an industry standard

I've seen em around even in consumer products

[dusty cedar]

any particular reason you're still goin on about it or is this a you want the last word situation on it?

[jagged ember]

I dunno, guess I just don't have anything better to do right now

[untold vessel]

What do you intend to use the PC for?

[manic cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/99mFcb

The build probably needs a different RAM, and a microATX case that can fit the GPU without the case being overpriced

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jD92FT/fractal-design-focus-2-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-foc2a-03

if you're going to ram tune https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JLFf7/teamgroup-t-force-vulcan-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl32-memory-flbd532g5600hc32dc01

if not the kit you had is fine

[potent portal]

Fractal pop mini is good too

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tGmmP6/asrock-b760m-pg-riptide-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b760m-pg-riptide this board as well if wifi isn't needed

[broken lake]

Games

[azure briar]

which games lol

[paper summit]

Tic tac toe

[cyan ravine]

Crossword

Lmfao

[paper summit]

Snake

[azure briar]

i got a 960 that’d be good for that

minesweeper?

[paper summit]

My freind dailys a 960

Don't doubt it

[azure briar]

i do rn

6600 is in the mail though <3

[paper summit]

Wait the gpu or cpu LOL

[azure briar]

gpu

2gb model too

[paper summit]

Fire

[azure briar]

been used pretty much consistently since it was purchased

in 2016 or something

i am the third owner

[white temple]

Would I be able to put a GPU on this?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Also that board is not really worth it

Asrock has a z690 itx for I believe the same price rn

Would be a better investment unless your cooling capabilities of the case is hilariously low

(needs a new cpu)

[manic cloak]

explain more

cause it'll probably be on XMP but that's it maybe, it's for my cousin who plans on building

[manic cloak]

also great case but i hate how you gotta pay for shipping + USB type C (but he might like it)

but uh do none of the fractal cases have fan hubs?

[mossy venture]

If xmp then the kit you had in the list is a fine choice

[manic cloak]

alr alr, I wonder if I can do that on my build though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZj3Y9

[manic cloak]

I mean the build will 100% need wifi but is it better to buy this + antennas or the network card thingy (I have no clue what it's called) or the gigabyte b760?

[cyan ravine]

If you need wifi, you can get one of those intel ax kits and stick it in an m.2 slot

There's a slot on the board labelled for it under the first pcie slot

But that's only if you can do it for cheaper overall

[manic cloak]

ya i think i’ll skip that considering that has 2 m.2s for storage, and ik he needs a bit for photography

[cyan ravine]

I mean, unless you can fit an m.2 2230 instead it's probably not gonna slot like that 💀

It's specifically made for wifi

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[manic cloak]

i’m kinda lost ngl

does this wifi plug into the same m.2 i’m thinking about?

i mean ax kits

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes

I mean they could take place of normal m.2 slot

Or one made for wifi cards

[manic cloak]

gotcha gotcha..

[obsidian wigeon]

But in this case the board has only one m.2 slot, another for wifi I presume

[manic cloak]

ya, i mean there’s a 2230 for the asrock but

i don’t think i’ve really looked into 2230 SSDs before

or i’m stupid and there isn’t a 2230 ssd

[obsidian wigeon]

2230 ssds exist

Just more expensive than bigger, more common form factor

[manic cloak]

ah makes sense

so gigabyte it is then 😎

[manic cloak]

but back to my build, is it possible to overclock effectively and if i were to upgrade to a 6800xt, would I need a bigger psu?

[south cliff]

nah you wouldn't 750 is enough

[manic cloak]

alr alr.

[obsidian wigeon]

850 is a rec but 750 ok

[potent portal]

750 is enough for a 6950 XT on that note, unless it's paired with a 13900k

[south cliff]

me personally i would save for a 6950xt

[potent portal]

6950 $400 wen

[south cliff]

6800xt is a great card its just 6950xt is really good for the price

[obsidian wigeon]

6950xt is useless outside of 1440p+ however

cuz cpu will be the bottleneck