building-and-recc-chat

[runic spruce]

I mean as long as the game runs how you want it the specs and clocks don’t really matter

[cyan ravine]

Man, imagine getting wailed on for being price conscious

[earnest olive]

being price conscious about $15 but when it comes to adding $300 to the monitor it's nothing?

[cyan ravine]

There's no other IC to buy on DDR5, if you can get hynix, then you'll be able to later run it well beyond 6k

Yes

Because you may as well downgrade the gpu

[rough loom]

just buy the ram at XMP you plan to keep it at

[cyan ravine]

Don't kneecap your pc with a low spec monitor

[earnest olive]

the top 5 best selling memory kits are all corsair vengeance

[cyan ravine]

And?

[earnest olive]

you really think people care about ram oc and ICs?

[cyan ravine]

What you think I spend most of my time here for

To sell vengememes?

I'm here to educate on value

[earnest olive]

sure, but i don't think ram oc can ever be used in a value argument for casual users

[cyan ravine]

If you aren't going to maximise your performance where it counts then don't buy it

[runic spruce]

Don’t look in #build-pics then

[cyan ravine]

My guy, it's literally 400 MHz, a setting right below xmp

And 99% guaranteed to run on all current platforms

[rough loom]

are you talking about buying a higher than chip/mobo rated XMP ram and just running it auto at a lower frequency?

[earnest olive]

hope you are prepared to take the blame then when the 1% does it and loses their data to OS corruption

[cyan ravine]

I will

[runic spruce]

Os corruption is kinda rare

[cyan ravine]

Cos frankly AMD's chips were cracking dies first for way different reasons

[earnest olive]

don't ask me how many OSes i've corrupted then

lol

[rough loom]

I had a stick of ram litterally dieing before my eyes and it didnt OS corrupt

[cyan ravine]

You're different sips you took 3 damn months to run 4000 💀

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

On DDR5 I've had like, as many as 2 or 3 in the weeks I've done this

[rough loom]

thats mildly worrying

[earnest olive]

meh, you can tell me i have skill issues as much as you want, there's something genuinely wrong with this b-die

[flint sapphire]

That unsafe shutdown number is peak btw

[earnest olive]

i can finish other tunes in 1-2 days

[cyan ravine]

That can happen to literally anyone, at any time.
Ask me how many vengeance sticks have died on my watch, it's long and far #1

[cyan ravine]

That's what happens when you OC

Aand at near 8000

At that

[rough loom]

oh dang, thats pretty spicy OC

I probably wouldnt run much higher than 6600

[cyan ravine]

I'm not babbling on like a dummy I genuinely know this stuff will work

[earnest olive]

i think i'm up to 14 windows kills at this point

[flint sapphire]

I’ve only killed windows once

[earnest olive]

not all on this rig

only 2 on this rig

[vague oracle]

I killed the wifi part of ny windows

[earnest olive]

only

[cyan ravine]

If I can sign off on 99% assurance I have more assurance than anything that could simply happen just from RDNA drivers going on the fritz 💀

[flint sapphire]

Tbh it wasn’t even my pc I killed it on

[cyan ravine]

Windows itself is just bad with wifi drivers

Like, universally

[flint sapphire]

And printers

[cyan ravine]

There isn't a PC I haven't tried to work on with wifi that doesn't break somehow

[earnest olive]

windows is just bad

[vague oracle]

I had to reinstall windows to get my internet working again

[rough loom]

what is the Memory module hierarchy in good to bad? in terms of chip on ram modules?

[earnest olive]

for ddr5?

[rough loom]

yea, DDR5 will be my next build

[cyan ravine]

H24M>H16A>H16M>>>>>S16B>>>>>>M16A

[earnest olive]

hynix-a > hynix-m, everything else is e-waste

[cyan ravine]

24gbit is the new meta

[vague oracle]

What’s M16A?

[earnest olive]

from an overclocking perspective anyways

[earnest olive]

micron 16 gbit rev. a

[cyan ravine]

Micron's death

[vague oracle]

I forgot micron moved to DDR5

[cyan ravine]

LMAO

[rough loom]

hmmn, wonder what next gen ryzen will clock to memory wise

[flint sapphire]

[vague oracle]

I’m guessing you’ll only find it on Crucial sticjs?

[earnest olive]

micron really went from making some of the most beloved ddr4 to having everyone just spit on their ddr5

[cyan ravine]

Anything crucial yeah. Also basic 4800 cl40 kits roll the dice on micron

[vague oracle]

I really don’t want to sell my RevE but I should

[cyan ravine]

Another reason to grab hynix now in case AM5 can suddenly clock to the moon

[vague oracle]

I wish it was going to someone who actually could take advantage of it being RevE

[earnest olive]

i regret that my rev. e is spending the rest of its life at XMP

it really deserves a better fate

[vague oracle]

Indeed it does

[cyan ravine]

To put it in raw terms, all Hynix goes way over 10K, Micron dies at 5600-ish, sammies die at 6800-ish but go higher on ln2

[vague oracle]

I have a feeling mine is going to someone who won’t even know XMP exists

[cyan ravine]

A good 30% in that bandwidth by just picking the right kit carefully

That's an upgrade in itself

[earnest olive]

i put it in a flip and my OC wasn't stable without active cooling/good case airflow, figured i wasn't getting paid enough to redo it

[cyan ravine]

A die can run 8800 in binned ambient scenarios

[earnest olive]

i lowkey think nanya f-die might be better than rev. e on AM4

[flint sapphire]

Knowing how many peoples screen refresh rates I’ve had to fix it’s not looking great…

[earnest olive]

lol

i went to my friend's place

decided to check out her pc while i was there

her 240hz monitor was set to 60hz

[flint sapphire]

[vague oracle]

Yo Felix, you think this is any good? https://www.microcenter.com/product/665474/corsair-vengeance-rgb-48gb-(2-x-24gb)-ddr5-5600-pc5-44800-cl40-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-cmh48gx5m2b5600c40-black

[earnest olive]

and somehow her ram was set to 1600 auto timings

with 800mhz fclk

[vague oracle]

I know it’s c*rsair but it’s 2x24

[earnest olive]

she played esports titles btw

LMAO

[cyan ravine]

Nope

Two reasons

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

1. Locked pmic
2. Dice roll

[earnest olive]

i did ram oc on her pc and performance in valorant multiplied by 4

[vague oracle]

Locked PMIC?

[cyan ravine]

There's no resale value in a hynix kit that can OC but limited to 1.41V

[earnest olive]

i really do not know how her ram got set to run at 1600 MT/s auto timings

she didn't even know what a BIOS was so

[cyan ravine]

A cheaper 80$ vulcan kit will sell for more on confirmed hynix

[earnest olive]

i guess her friend built it and was uhh.. not very smart?

[flint sapphire]

Maybe they thought they were setting the inf fab to 1600

[earnest olive]

it was a 3600c18 xmp kit

so

1600 should have never been involved anyways

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

@vague oracle oh wait, 48gb?

[earnest olive]

should be 1800 fclk

[cyan ravine]

My bad I thought it was a 32gb kit

[vague oracle]

Damn the only 2x24 kits of DDR5 microcenter sells are those two Corsair kits

[cyan ravine]

No that's hynix

Sorry

[flint sapphire]

Thought it was a 3200 kit maybe

[cyan ravine]

Yeah no I misread

It's hynix

But still locked pmic

[earnest olive]

xmp was also disabled

so

[cyan ravine]

It's bleh

[flint sapphire]

[earnest olive]

it was just 1600 auto timings

[vague oracle]

PCB quality go up with DDR5 Corsair?

I guess not?

[cyan ravine]

Down

💀

[vague oracle]

DAMN

💀

Only so much a good die can do lmao

[cyan ravine]

Dominator ddr5 heatsinks are hands down insane

But they ruin it with everything else

[flint sapphire]

But what if you got Corsair dominators cuz they are pretty

[cyan ravine]

LOL

Alr answered u darvan

💀

[vague oracle]

This vengeance is so pretty but I probably shouldn’t buy it right?

[cyan ravine]

I wouldn't

48gb isn't worth 170

[vague oracle]

Guess I’ll stick with that 64Gb Adie TridentZ kit

[cyan ravine]

For like 220?

[vague oracle]

$280 iirc

[cyan ravine]

Eh bleh

That's a bit worse tbh

[vague oracle]

Which is expensive but 64Gb will help with CAD a good bit

[cyan ravine]

Hold on lemme look rq

I'll find a kit

[vague oracle]

96Gb kit for $330

[earnest olive]

alright

big brain moment

[vague oracle]

👀

[earnest olive]

buy the corsair dominators

delid them

toss the heatspreaders on good ram

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

@vague oracle white or black

[vague oracle]

Doesn’t matter really

[cyan ravine]

Better but what brand

[vague oracle]

Black is preferable tho

[vague oracle]

Also Corsair

[flint sapphire]

But like if you mess up the rgb might not work

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XNwypg/gskill-ripjaws-s5-64-gb-2-x-32-gb-ddr5-5600-cl30-memory-f5-5600j3036d32gx2-rs5k

[vague oracle]

Needs to be MC sadly

[earnest olive]

I'm running my 13700K with totally legit DDR3

[cyan ravine]

Oof

[earnest olive]

don't worry about it

this is definitely real DDR3

[vague oracle]

Because imma be trying to pull strings with the bundles

[cyan ravine]

Scholarship or smthn?

Ah

Alr

[vague oracle]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/665485/corsair-vengeance-rgb-96gb-(2-x-48gb)-ddr5-5600-pc5-44800-cl40-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-cmh96gx5m2b5600c40-black

[flint sapphire]

[earnest olive]

my school's tech grant literally let me use ebay/hws invoices

[vague oracle]

For just XMP, this ram should be fine I guess?

Because 96Gb of ram would be insane ngl

[earnest olive]

💀

[flint sapphire]

What if the dominator kit was around this price https://www.ebay.com/itm/304817776132?

[earnest olive]

4 sticks of ddr5 at 6600

and it's corsair

good luck

[flint sapphire]

And it worked on am5

[earnest olive]

$395 💀

[flint sapphire]

[vague oracle]

For $395 might as well get that 2x32 TridentZ A-die kit

That’s $280

[flint sapphire]

Nah the doms are sexy tho 👀

[cyan ravine]

@vague oracle https://www.microcenter.com/product/662952/teamgroup-vulcan-64gb-(2-x-32gb)-ddr5-6000-pc5-48000-cl38-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-flbd564g6000hc3-black

Probably hynix

6000 64gb is stupid hard for sammies

[potent portal]

At least Corsair ddr5 isn't total trash (so far)

[vague oracle]

I was looking at that one but I’m a bit sketched out by it

Because in the tech description it says it’s 4800MHz

[cyan ravine]

PC5-48000

[vague oracle]

So that I’d need to check out in person first

[cyan ravine]

That's just the speed in jedec lingo

[earnest olive]

nah, it says DDR5-4800 too

prob just a mistake

[cyan ravine]

Oh it does

[potent portal]

I assume this is for an Intel system and not AMD

[vague oracle]

Yeah, that ram I’ll check out in person so I’ll put it on my list

[cyan ravine]

But then it says pc5-48000

[vague oracle]

Yeah

[cyan ravine]

So it's fine

I bet that's a typo

They have cheaper 4800 64gb kits

[potent portal]

Ok good because you can't do 64gb at 6000 on AMD lol

[cyan ravine]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/665488/corsair-vengeance-48gb-(2-x-24gb)-ddr5-5200-pc5-41600-cl38-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-cmk48gx5m2b5200c38-black also this maybe

[cyan ravine]

You absolutely can

[potent portal]

With an expensive board and 1dpc yeah

[cyan ravine]

I've seen a LOT of AM5.64gb running 6000+

Noooo

2dpc

[earnest olive]

as long as it's 2x32 shouldn't be too hard

[cyan ravine]

Asrock ftw

Ya 2x32 def

4 sticks is hard on both sides

[vague oracle]

I miss when I knew nothing about ram and went on Amazon and bought the first ram kit I saw

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[earnest olive]

i almost bought vengeance lpx

[flint sapphire]

4 sticks of dom’s at 6600 on am5?

[vague oracle]

I did

[cyan ravine]

Death

[potent portal]

Really? Because I was looking at MSI boards and none of them have 64gb higher than 5400 on the QVL except the top ones

[earnest olive]

maybe if you replace the leading 6 with a 3

[vague oracle]

My first ram upgrade was a 3000C15 32Gb LPX kit

[cyan ravine]

QVL is a meme

[earnest olive]

you know

[cyan ravine]

I've seen so many tuned zentimings screnshots now

[earnest olive]

the QVL for this board i just got my hands on

goes up to 3866c17

[cyan ravine]

6000 is easy on AM5

[earnest olive]

it's an H270 board.

[flint sapphire]

it’s already running at those speeds in that config

[earnest olive]

think about it for a bit

[cyan ravine]

I've seen 5600 running at 128gb on AM5

[potent portal]

Alright I should specify then, can't do 64gb 6000 XMP without tuning

[cyan ravine]

Like properly

[earnest olive]

asus advertises DDR4-3300 support on it but the QVL goes up to 3866

[cyan ravine]

Nah man

It'll run

I promise

[earnest olive]

H270

[vague oracle]

I’m guessing Intel can handle a lot higher rams?

[potent portal]

Yes*

[cyan ravine]

Many higher rams yes

About a whole snow peaks worth

[vague oracle]

Lmao it’s been a long day

Meant ram speeds

[potent portal]

(at around 7200-7600 you might randomly lose stability on a system that passed all the tests)

[flint sapphire]

Would that be in the north?

[vague oracle]

Nah, South Pole

[cyan ravine]

Fravtal?

[flint sapphire]

The fractal north?

[cyan ravine]

Indood

Pc names are weird

[flint sapphire]

[earnest olive]

i wonder what speeds i can run in this H270 board

[vague oracle]

6000 definitely

[earnest olive]

surely

[vague oracle]

You can get DDR5 into it

https://tenor.com/view/pskt-hammer-time-ban-gif-23557002

[earnest olive]

just put the PMIC in SLI with the mobo power delivery

[cyan ravine]

EVC pmic

Why stop with vengememes when you can just dothefunnymodbusiness

[vague oracle]

13900k on a Z790 TUF should be able to OC pretty well I think right?

[earnest olive]

okay but please tell me yall saw the issue with the H270 board advertising up to 3866

[cyan ravine]

Yes, I hope you get it at a good price tho

Z790 tuf is usually a gross price

[vague oracle]

Coming in a bundle

[cyan ravine]

Asus z790 is in general pretty good with ram

[flint sapphire]

Okay let’s say you build a crazy sleeper pc but you try to use mostly Corsair parts

[cyan ravine]

Are you tryna give me nightmares

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

Oh wait, I know what you're talking about

[vague oracle]

I think imma get that 96Gb Corsair kit

[cyan ravine]

Hey btw tell ur brother to change his fans

[cyan ravine]

2 sticc or 4

Avoid 4 sticc

[potent portal]

Make sure to put it on an AMD board so you can hate it better

[flint sapphire]

I already did, he trolled me and bought THE MOST expensive Corsair fans he could

[cyan ravine]

Haunt his dreams

[vague oracle]

2 Stick

[cyan ravine]

Nice

[earnest olive]

get 4 sticks for 192gb and put it in am5 you'll have a lot of fun

[vague oracle]

LOL

[cyan ravine]

192gb runs on am5 lol

It just runs like dog

[earnest olive]

ddr5-3600 cl46

[vague oracle]

If I’m not happy with it I can always return it

[potent portal]

AM5 still doesn't really like the 24Gb dimms

[cyan ravine]

24gbit hmbd is like, actually a lot easier to run than 16gbit

They already have 48gb 8200 kits

[flint sapphire]

@potent portal the cursed mostly Corsair pc with some nice water cooling stuff

[vague oracle]

At 1.4V I probably could get to 6500 MHz right?

[cyan ravine]

Probably

There's always a *

But 6000 def

[vague oracle]

Yeah I know

[pliant shale]

Message

[languid nimbus]

Massage

[pliant shale]

i am trying 2 upload a image of the pc part list i have for help but it seems i cannot upload images/videos

[dense brook]

Newbie question.:
Aio also acts as case exhaust fans?

[runic spruce]

Yes

[analog hearth]

it’s possible, but it’s recommended only for a push-pull config. however, it’s actually best for the air outside of the PC to be pushed onto the AIO’s radiator (somebody correct me if I’m wrong)

there’s nothing stopping you from using them as exhaust though

[runic spruce]

Push pull doesn’t make much difference in temperature

[analog hearth]

got it thanks

[runic spruce]

Just make sure you have proper intake fans in your case

[little osprey]

Can someone help me with a power source for my PC build? It is back ordered and I don’t want to wait. What info do you need to help me pick a new power source?

[mossy venture]

Country, budget, computer case, and what gpu and cpu

[little osprey]

USA, any budget, case: Cooler Master MasterCase H500M ARGB Airflow ATX Mid-Tower with Quad, CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G - Ryzen 5 5000 G-Series Cezanne (Zen 3) 6-Core 3.9 GHz, GPU: ASRock Radeon RX 6800 Phantom Gaming D Gaming Graphics Card. I am new to this so if any of these are wrong let me know

[mossy venture]

If you haven't bought the cpu yet, get a 5600 instead

It's far better

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YRJp99/corsair-rm750e-2023-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020262-na

Also if that case is anywhere north of $120 it's an awful price

[little osprey]

Thank you!

[mossy venture]

Happy to

Have you bought all the other parts yet?

If not I can take a look at the list for you, a 5600 6800 build shouldn't cost more than $1100 or so

[little osprey]

Yes I have. I will send the build. I could probably return some of it

[mossy venture]

Kk

Can you also let me know what prices you paid for everything?

[little osprey]

Yes I just messaged you, if that is okay

[mossy venture]

Yep, that works

[weak yarrow]

Ik this is stupid but I’m thinking about getting a soft tube loop kit now so I’m the future when I upgrade my cpu in 5-6 years all I probably need to do is change a block in the loop and maybe enlarge the radiator

[cyan ravine]

You'd be committing yourself to years of regular draining, flushing and refilling the loop with fresh fluid

when you don't really need it rn lol

invest in a loop when you upgrade to a system that really can use it

[lyric thistle]

I'd just get a bigger and bigger air cooler

[cyan ravine]

Ya stick to conventional stuff imo

[weak yarrow]

So basically a yearly oil change

I work on cars this isn’t a new concept

[lyric thistle]

And having an air cooler is like a single speed coaster brake bicycle

Bomb proof

[weak yarrow]

Yes but the aesthetics

[lyric thistle]

Yeah that's why I'd go with an air cooler

[weak yarrow]

Yea but I’ve always wanted a custom loop man

[cyan ravine]

I mean if that doesn't worry you alr but still, I'd have the pc worthy of needing it first 💀

and even then that would only be like some 13900K or threadripper

high end gpus have air coolers better than water these days

[weak yarrow]

Like I said, when I have more money in the future it would be worth of custom loops

[cyan ravine]

ya, invest in the pc when it needs it

not now when you have a 12400 lol

[weak yarrow]

But aesthetics

[cyan ravine]

talking to the wrong guy if you want aesthetics approval 💀

[weak yarrow]

@earnest olive what ur opinion on this

[earnest olive]

you've been asking about this for how long now?

we're never going to tell you it's a good idea, but we can't stop you from doing it

[weak yarrow]

Fair point

[earnest olive]

you've clearly made up your mind about it anyways

just do it

you don't need approval we're not your parents

[cyan ravine]

lol

[weak yarrow]

Fair enough, also what little screen is on the back of ur case shroom?

[earnest olive]

you've already been warned that it'll be louder than air cooling on low power hardware, requires maintenance, and makes no financial sense

we have nothing more to say

it's just a 7 inch raspberry pi monitor

[weak yarrow]

I see is there a way to hook one into my pc?

[earnest olive]

if you can run cables from the inside to the outside and have physical clearance then yes

[weak yarrow]

Cool

[gentle pollen]

Would there be any issues if I take my AIO pump off then plop it right back on? Gonna rewire all my cables into the new fan hub and such.

[frigid night]

may as well repaste since you are taking it off.

[gentle pollen]

Needed or not? The paste has only been on it for about 2 weeks.

[earnest olive]

it could introduce air bubbles into the paste that make your temps worse

if you have paste on hand, doesn't hurt to try not repasting and see if there is an impact on temps, then repaste if you must

if you're lucky the paste is fresh enough to just re-form properly with enough mounting pressure

[gentle pollen]

Ahh alright. I can wipe off the paste with some paper towels correct?

[earnest olive]

should be fine, i prefer using alcohol

[gentle pollen]

Will repaste if I end up needing to take the pump off.

[gentle pollen]

Forgot I bought some. Do I put the alcohol onto the paper and wipe off the paste as such?

[earnest olive]

👍

[little osprey]

hey, im new to building, but i really need something new (mostly to handle the god forsaken elden ring lol), i have a budget of 1200ish USD, can anyone help me out please? I heard about brands like intel and ryzen differentials from a friend, and tbh, as long as it works ill take either.

[mossy citrus]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dcRvpH

[runic spruce]

I changed up the parts of the list above so a faster gpu can be put in but you can change it to a 6800xt to reach 1200 bucks, it has less ram that is slower bc its ddr4 but it shouldnt make to much difference in gaming and the cpu might be a little slower cause of it being a non k https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H6cR2m

[obsidian wigeon]

why 13500 lol

[runic spruce]

same amount of cores and came with a cooler

though the cooler prob isnt that good

[obsidian wigeon]

247 isn't a good price

just step down to 13400

[runic spruce]

does the 4 small cores make a difference?

[obsidian wigeon]

not in games, no

anyway that ram is gonna be slower than ddr5 6000

3600 would be nicer for similar price

there's silicon power and team group kits

[runic spruce]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dqqPRv

i changed the cpu and ram

[obsidian wigeon]

that's good

can change gpu for 6800 or something i suppose if the budget is strictly 1200

but as is this looks good

[runic spruce]

that guy could maybe go second hand for the gpu

i saw some good deals for 3070s selling for 300 on ebay

with evga warranties as well on some

[runic spruce]

btw a 3200 ram at cl 16 runs about the same as ram with 3600 cl 18 bc of the cas

i just remembered that

[obsidian wigeon]

speed does help tho

because well, the cpu runs ddr5 too if you use ddr5 board

[runic spruce]

true, though i dont think ram speed and timings arent really noticable besides benchmarks and some work stuff, i might be wrong

[obsidian wigeon]

it is noticeable in gaming too, such as 1% lows

that fps value is where smoothness is dictated

but nothing helps better than tuning the ram, tho that takes work

an unstable tune and windows can get corrupted, needing a clean install

[runic spruce]

Yea I corrupted windows cause of trfc before I think

and artifacted the bios a couple times

It’s pretty easy though to do a simple ram oc with that GitHub guide

[obsidian wigeon]

true

[runic spruce]

Just wouldn’t do anything extreme

[obsidian wigeon]

just cranking speed up is easy

or mess a bit with subtimings

that's where the massive fps boost comes

in cpu intensive games especially

[runic spruce]

Crucial still should make ballistix ram

Rev e is the best budget overclocker

[frigid night]

Except there is a DDR5 hynix kit for $90 right now.

[little osprey]

is there a big difference between the old cpu and the new one you added? I font really know, but 1 GHz seems like kind of a big different especially when it only have 3.5 total to begin with

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just base speed

don't worry about it

[little osprey]

oh ok

[obsidian wigeon]

it can boost to 4.6ghz

[little osprey]

how do i get it there though

[obsidian wigeon]

just use the pc

it will automatically do that

expect it to run about 4-4.6 depending on workload

it's normal behavior

[little osprey]

ok

and how big is the difference in the gpu from the 6700XT to the 6950XT

[obsidian wigeon]

i forgot the percentage

but it's massive

[little osprey]

is it worth getting a lesser cpu for?

[obsidian wigeon]

it depends on your resolution target

[little osprey]

as in going down to the 13400F

[obsidian wigeon]

if 1080p you don't exactly need 6950xt

can step down to 6800

[little osprey]

ok because i run 1080p

[obsidian wigeon]

then step back up to 13600k

[little osprey]

what gpu should i get then

6800?

[obsidian wigeon]

rx 6800

yes

any models will work the same

get the cheapest one

[little osprey]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

you could also save a bit of money buying asrock z690 pro rs

but you will need to do a bios update

[little osprey]

is the 6800 better?

[obsidian wigeon]

better for your use case, yes

6950xt is too extreme for 1080p

[little osprey]

ok then thats fine

it says i should include a cpu cooler, is that necessary?

[obsidian wigeon]

which cpu?

[little osprey]

the 13600k

[obsidian wigeon]

if 13600k, you will need to buy a cooler, yes

[little osprey]

are there any youd reccomend?

[obsidian wigeon]

give me a moment

you can get thermalright PS120

or phantom spirit 120

se version is similar, you can get that too

[little osprey]

can you send the link? i dont see it on pc part picker

[mossy venture]

Ps120 se, pa120 se, ag620, ak620

[little osprey]

which though

[obsidian wigeon]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

[gentle pollen]

@viral ore, great job on the cables.

Wish my EVGA cables weren't so thick and stiff.

[gentle pollen]

Managed to get everything done without needing to detach my pump. Will send pics tomorrow.

[earnest olive]

nice, that's ideal

[gentle pollen]

I also got a exhaust fan setup.

Decided to reuse one of the 140mm fans that came with my Fractal Torrent as a exhaust.

[viral ore]

whut

oh thanks

mobile discord broke it only showed the mention and not the text lol

[runic spruce]

There’s not a really big difference run the cpu besides the cores, tho u only need the extra cores for task like editing, streaming and gaming and demanding things on the cpu

U can still do the exact things with the 13400 ofc but it will be slightly slower in editing and task similar to it, will be the same tho in gaming

And streaming too at the same time

Btw since your gaming at 1080p u could just get a 3070 2nd hand for like 300bucks and get 144fps on most games

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WsWzqm

This build saves you like 200 bucks

Assuming u get the gpu 2nd hand

[frigid night]

Can save another $15

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07PV7GL6C?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

[gentle pollen]

Heading to bed now but here's the updated system. #build-pics message

[gentle pollen]

To all you RGB fans, what's your thoughts on this almost RGB to the max setup consisting of around 16 ARGB light sources?

[earnest olive]

needs rgb cables

replace the back fan with rgb

and get a custom rgb backplate for the gpu

and rgb gpu support

try routing the fan cables to the back to hide them

also screw that ssd in lol

~~then put an rgb “heatsink” on it ~~

need rgb ram too

and/or rgb ram cooler

and upgrade the mobo for more rgb

[gentle pollen]

Lmao, sure one step at a time.

[gentle pollen]

gotta get some ARGB extenders later. I barely got these to fit.

[little osprey]

hey

sup

[mossy venture]

Sup

Do you need help with something?

?

What?

[gentle pollen]

Out of curiosity, how hard would it be to setup a simple loop for a 140mm rad in the Fractal Torrent to cool ram, and possibly SSDs and VRMs?

[earnest olive]

none of those components need nearly that much cooling

[vague oracle]

I feel like that’s a waste of money for not much benefit

[potent portal]

Quite difficult tbh.
You'd want a monoblock for the motherboard to cool the VRM, so you also need a motherboard that supports that.
RAM cooling is risky if the memory came with heat spreaders already since you can rip the ICs off.
Finding a SSD block that isn't just a glorified pipe that doesn't do much cooling and allows unrestricted flow is hard.

[gentle pollen]

Just curious.

[gentle pollen]

Ahh so it isn't as simple as buy a cheap pump, rad, tubes, and water block and stick it on.

[potent portal]

Yeah there's a reason most people don't add these things to loops, too hard for little benefit

[gentle pollen]

Also only specific motherboards would support water cooling the VRMs?

Are those the same motherboards with a built in CPU water block?

[potent portal]

The board needs a monoblock designed for it or the holes won't fit to mount it

Some boards have aftermarket ones

[earnest olive]

i mean theoretically with enough effort you can make your own block for vrms on any board

[potent portal]

Sure, got a CNC?

[earnest olive]

the effort may involve picking up a second job until you can afford a CNC

👍

[gentle pollen]

Not yet, though I do have a lot of drills, saws, and a lapidary machine.

[earnest olive]

that might take a while

[potent portal]

CNC mills are NOT cheap

[gentle pollen]

How much are they? 1k?

[earnest olive]

if you don't have the equipment to get the precision within microns, you're going to get worse results than just air cooled vrm heatsinks

[gentle pollen]

Because of uneven contact correct?

[potent portal]

Try $7500 for a basic tabletop one

[earnest olive]

well into the hundreds of thousands for a good one lol

[gentle pollen]

......

[earnest olive]

like the setup derbauer uses to fab stuff for videos is definitely into the millions

but that's owned by thermal grizzly so yeah

[gentle pollen]

Yeah it's gonna be a good year or two before I got that saved up from my current gig if I still wanna do other things.

[earnest olive]

yes

[vague oracle]

10k at minimum

Then the skill to program it

[potent portal]

And that's only for a basic tabletop one yeah, not even a self contained unit

[vague oracle]

Welll actually, there are CNC services that you can submit a CAD file to

But usually can be expensive

[potent portal]

They have to recoup the cost of the machine after all

[gentle pollen]

I just found like 6 table top ones for like 2-4k.....

[potent portal]

Garbage ones probably

And/or used

[vague oracle]

Used and pretty bad

[gentle pollen]

Well then, seems I won't be picking up a CNC machine for a few years.

[vague oracle]

An actually good CNC machine will run you A LOT

And not much use for the average person ngl

[potent portal]

Or spend a lot less on a board and a monoblock lol

[gentle pollen]

Lmao, probably gonna do this option first.

[wheat coral]

his lab is somewhere in the like 100 million euro range

[earnest olive]

unsurprising

[wheat coral]

der8auer has a LOT of money off thermal grizzly business

[buoyant junco]

from what I can tell , my Z590 LGA 1200 ATX doesn't have hdmi audio for hooking it up to surround sound for something like dolby atmos. if there's a sound card that I could get that would do that, does anyone have any recommendations? using optical audio now but not getting true 3d audio

[earnest olive]

the man deserves his success

[wheat coral]

very much so 💀

[earnest olive]

your graphics card?

graphics card has integrated DAC for HDMI audio

[buoyant junco]

well that's good to know, I had no idea

thank you

[earnest olive]

happy to help

[wheat coral]

he’s spent a long time doing this, he deserves everything he’s obtained

[languid nimbus]

Yo is that THE syndicate

Lmao

[weary galleon]

Depends on the size and precision you need. My HS robotics team got a kit (we had to assemble) for ~6k.

Could probably get a smaller one for cheaper but idk how precise it would be

[vague oracle]

The basic of the basic ones start at around 8k ish

We just bought probably the most barebones CNC we could find for my electronics lab and it ran us 7.5k iirc

[weary galleon]

Huh. Maybe we got some sort of deal on ours

[vague oracle]

Also probably HS discount

[weary galleon]

Not sure what model/brand but here's a pic of it during construction

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/484611773064937472/842175407741730819/image0.jpg

[north echo]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QLCCGL

how does this feel? Budget is around this price and using this for a mix of premier pro work and gaming. For the monitor, I like the USB c and size of the gigabyte for my laptop too.

[potent portal]

Probably a deal like this https://www.cncmasters.com/max-cnc-mill/

[potent portal]

I'd do a different cooler so you can get a 2TB drive. Samsung 980s are really bad right now. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sP3s9r

[earnest olive]

I was wondering if you shouldn’t just go nvidia for premiere pro but

wow the 7900xtx actually does pretty well in premiere pro

also why are there 2 coolers in the original list lol

cooler SLI

[earnest olive]

huh there’s still 2 coolers in this

is this a bug

[potent portal]

wat

[potent portal]

Yeah it usually replaces the cooler wtf

[earnest olive]

or am I just losing it

[jagged ember]

Pcpp is losing it

[potent portal]

Corrected https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nrVLzf

[jagged ember]

https://tenor.com/view/kitr-pitr-insanity-insane-gif-22305272

[gentle pollen]

I saw one that looked just like this for about 5k USD.

[slender whale]

I'm in the middle of pretyt much building this exact list, is this where i might be able to ask for help on the wiring

The wiring has been driving me nuts for last 2 days and im getting more frustrated on it than I care to admit

[potent portal]

Yeah this is a good spot

What specifically is giving you grief?

[slender whale]

So have 9/10 lian Li 120 fans / getting those properly wired

[potent portal]

The uni fans?

[slender whale]

I honestly feel extremely overwhelemd with so many wires and I'm unsure of how to put everything in. I've watched several videos and its just not clicking for me

yea

120's

I can take some pictures 1 sec

[potent portal]

Yeah funny how those were supposed to reduce cables isn't it

[slender whale]

Its been 7 years since I built one and I just feel overwhelmed if im being honest

[earnest olive]

me chilling with 5 pounds of cable mass coming out of my peasant fans

💀

[potent portal]

I don't blame you, between the rgb and the controller stuff

[slender whale]

Yea my brain just isnt functioning and there are just so many damn wires everywher I frankly feel overwhelmed lol

[earnest olive]

almost managed to cop 9 unifans for $110 really sad I missed that one

what a deal

[slender whale]

Okay AIO cooler lets start there I have a 6 pin that from what videos have shown I'm supposed to be inserting somewhere on the top

but cannot find the right verbage thats being said in any video

[potent portal]

Which AIO

[slender whale]

Ls 720

[earnest olive]

probably gonna make things a lot easier if you assemble the groups of 3 fans together outside of the case first

[slender whale]

All fans are assembled / wired and in the case

It's just the pure overwhelming of all the wires I see are frying my brain and caus8ng much frustration , am I allowed to post pictures

[earnest olive]

not until level 3

you can dm them

[slender whale]

Either of yall mind me dming.

[earnest olive]

(permission was implied)

[potent portal]

Ok looks like that 6 pin is only if you're using the original fans that came with the cooler. It's not used since you're replacing with the uni fans.

You will still use the 3 pin fan header for the pump

[slender whale]

Oh okay I'm not using the original fnas

Header pump is "cpu fan"

[potent portal]

You can use that one, or the dedicated pump one

Either works really

[slender whale]

Okay then I guess I had this right

Okay pcie is for graphics card which I don't have in yet

[potent portal]

Right

[slender whale]

Let me straighten couple of these cords up

[potent portal]

Oh wait I read a little further on the 6 pin connector. It is still used for the RGB connection to the motherboard.

[slender whale]

I look at that and I just get total co fusuon

So 6 pin needs a power source but what would that be called

I have z790 board

I see a the- c1 that looks like it fits 6 pins

[potent portal]

The power goes to your power supply SATA power

[slender whale]

Okay don't think I have sata cables plugged in to power supply let me find those

I feel like a 5 year old trying to work through wires

I almost said fk it try to find someone to just wire it but $200 price I got for wiring seemed crazy so time to struggle till it works

Okay have to run out for a couple of hours I'll be back thanks for the quick help I'll get those cables in and be back

Is anyone typically here later at night

[earnest olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103438163931832331/1103438224501780541/1d1c2541-6209-4a73-abf5-271f912afdb1.jpg

from @slender whale

sorry didn’t see the message request right away

[slender whale]

I'll be back Ina couple hours have to go to local meet up

[maiden trellis]

Hello. What’s an acceptable amount of RAM for a gaming PC?

[potent portal]

32GB is the sweet spot right now

16GB is still enough for most games but more and more need at least 24GB (which is a thing on DDR5 now)

[maiden trellis]

I have a legion T5 and it currently has 16g of DDR5 at 4800 mhz. I have heard they are finicky with RAM upgrades.

[potent portal]

It can come with 32GB 3200 memory from the factory so I imagine upgrading to that will be no issue

[maiden trellis]

Any recommendations on which one to go with?

[frigid night]

There is DDR5 3200?

[potent portal]

No? It's a Ryzen 5000 model from what I'm seeing

[frigid night]

I Was just curious because the guy said he currently has DDR5 4800

[potent portal]

Ah that was added in an edit and I didn't see it

Which CPU did it come with @maiden trellis

[south cliff]

I got a z97i plus motherboard for free and used on eBay it goes for around 200 dollars

Was it top of the line 8 years ago

[little osprey]

Hey I have a question, I'm on the PC builder and I have everything set up, however I'm not sure how many cooling fans this comes with

https://newegg.io/a12b6da

This is the link to my build

Can someone let me know rq pls

[potent portal]

The 4000D Airflow comes with 2, one front and one rear

[little osprey]

Does it come with anymore included with my build?

Like the CPU cooling for example (Making it 3)

[potent portal]

The CPU fans come with a splitter to make it count as one fan

If it's headers you're worried about

[little osprey]

More of I need like....

6 fans so my PC won't overheat

[potent portal]

Honestly you could do a lot better parts for a $1500 budget

[little osprey]

How so?

[potent portal]

You could do a 5600/6950XT build

[little osprey]

Is that better than what I currently have added?

[potent portal]

I think what you had on there was a 5800X and 3060? Yes it's far better.

[little osprey]

wait, you talking about a Ryzen 5?

[potent portal]

Yes, it games the same as the ryzen 7

Especially if you do 1440p

[little osprey]

What can the Ryzen 7 5800x do that a Ryzen 5 5600 can't do?

[potent portal]

The 5800X has a couple more cores so it'll be better at workstation tasks and certain emulators like RPCS3

[little osprey]

what about vise-versa?

[maiden trellis]

I’m not 100% sure.

[potent portal]

The 5600 is half the price

[potent portal]

Intel or AMD then?

[formal mica]

Hey I love getting blue screens anyone know the cause of this

[maiden trellis]

It’s a 12th gen intel i7 12700.

[little osprey]

So pretty much when it comes to gaming the Ryzen 5 does the exact same but if I want something a little bit more than gaming then I should stick to the Ryzen 7?

[potent portal]

Could be memory or a failing drive

[potent portal]

Yep. And even then the 5700X is just a 5800X but cheaper and cooler.

[formal mica]

Well the system is brand new so doubt that I've been getting different reason for blue screens for about a week now

[little osprey]

Alright. So going back (and sticking with the Ryzen 7 for now), do I require 6 cooling fans? How much do I currently have in total with my build?

[potent portal]

There's 2 fans plus the ones on the CPU cooler which don't normally count

[south cliff]

Try just one stick of ram

I got that with my bad ram

[little osprey]

So does that mean my PC gon need more fans or else it burns? 😬

[formal mica]

Yea but I don't really wanna think it's my rame since the computer was build 2 weeks ago

[south cliff]

What are the specs

[potent portal]

With a 3060 in there? No

[south cliff]

Well try

[little osprey]

@south cliff

[maiden trellis]

It’s a 12th gen intel i7 12700.

[little osprey]

Cause my friend has a similar build and his PC kinda goes up to 80 degrees Celcius sometimes

[south cliff]

Nah your good

[little osprey]

although he does render with Unreal but still

[south cliff]

Yeah your good

[potent portal]

80 is perfectly safe temps

[little osprey]

....but that's with 6 fans

[south cliff]

But you could buy a pack of 5 p12s refurbished for like 20 dollars

[little osprey]

Although his cooler is low-grade

[south cliff]

If they are still up

On sale

[little osprey]

Is there a case that's better than what I selected that carries more fans?

[potent portal]

P400a maybe

[little osprey]

How many fans does that come it?

[south cliff]

I paid 9.45 for a 5 pack of p12s

But 9.50 for shipping

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4bPQzy/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl28-memory-f5-5600j2834f16gx2-rs5k

[maiden trellis]

Thank you

[little osprey]

I can't seem to find that on the PC builder 🤨

[potent portal]

I need to go actually, I'll be back on in a little while

[little osprey]

alr

[potent portal]

I do recommend pcpartpicker.com over the newegg builder btw, finds better prices from more stores

[little osprey]

Never heard of it but I'll give it a shot

Thanks

[mossy venture]

I would not buy most of this

[little osprey]

Why's that?

[mossy venture]

it's not good value, hold up ill make you a list

[little osprey]

'preciate it

[mossy venture]

this is a ton better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JV8x4s

6950xt comparable to the 3090

[little osprey]

Aw what

Intel?

[mossy venture]

the brand of cpu does not change the experience in using the pc whatsoever

[little osprey]

....anyone wanna confirm that for me rq

[mossy venture]

if you really want amd https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bpv2hk

[little osprey]

Mk better

[mossy venture]

7600 is a bit better in single core loads anyways

[little osprey]

Yeah I was gonna ask....

Cause I'm leaning towards a Ryzen 7

[mossy venture]

7700x not worth it for gaming

[little osprey]

I just need to know what's better than the other

[mossy venture]

the 6950xt is fine at 1440p with even a 5600

[little osprey]

I got the 8000x

[mossy venture]

the 7600 is better than the 5800x in gaming

[little osprey]

and just gaming?

[mossy venture]

theyre very similar in non gaming loads

[little osprey]

Better question is....

why would I need the Ryzen 7 8000x?

[mossy venture]

what?

[little osprey]

sorry

the 5800x*

[mossy venture]

you wouldnt

the 7600 is cheaper and better

[little osprey]

But let's say

Hypothetically

What reason is there for me to get the Ryzen 7?

[mossy venture]

there isn't

if youre gaming, the 7600 is better

if you're doing workstation tasks, the 13400f is better

[little osprey]

Wym by workstation?

[mossy venture]

coding, VMs, etc

[little osprey]

I'll definitely be doing some coding, not now but in the future cause so far I'm doing web design

MAAAAAAYBEEE 3D modeling but eh

not so much of it

[mossy venture]

then i'd def go 7600

[little osprey]

...fair enough

Now lets see the rest of the specs you sent....

and with this that you sent me, how many cooling fans does this have?

[mossy venture]

3

[little osprey]

😬

...you don't think I need more?

[mossy venture]

no, that case has great airflow

[frigid night]

If you want more go for more

[mossy venture]

however they will not do much

[little osprey]

I'm need to figure out what case my friend has cause he has 6 fans but sometimes his PC goes up to 80c

[mossy venture]

fans do not dictate temperatures

[little osprey]

But it'll cool it down more

Better yet....

[mossy venture]

fans will not help when a case is awful

[little osprey]

So lets say I'm gaming and possibly render some 3D objects....not big, but character models. Along with web design and maybe actual gaming code in the future...

will this be fine?

[mossy venture]

rendering you might want a nvidia gpu, depends on what softwares

[little osprey]

Blender

[mossy venture]

def nvidia gpu, one second

[little osprey]

...this website does deliver the PC built right 😶

[mossy venture]

no, neither does newegg

[little osprey]

...is there an option for that where I can pay extra for it?

[mossy venture]

give me a few

[little osprey]

bet

[mossy venture]

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Esports-Essential-Gaming-PC this build these specs is an option

[little osprey]

only $985?

[mossy venture]

have to change the specs

[little osprey]

oh

gotcha

and this comes built?

[mossy venture]

yes

it's noticeably worse than the 4070 ti one tho

[little osprey]

Which one was that one again?

[mossy venture]

oh i forgot to send that one lol

mb, i typed out a message then deleted it

[earnest olive]

unstable memory

[little osprey]

It's fine

[little osprey]

Change the specs to this?

[mossy venture]

yes

[earnest olive]

I’ve seen that bsod many times while doing memory overclocking

[little osprey]

...I just realized

Windows 11 🤢

[frigid night]

windows 11 is amazing

[little osprey]

bro wut

[mossy venture]

you can downgrade to w10 easily

[frigid night]

especially with 12/13th gen intel cpus.. dem ecores

[little osprey]

Is this case good?

I noticed it says "No Fan"

[mossy venture]

the case i chose is. Adding fans is a matter of a single small cable and 4 screws

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LmCFf7/arctic-p12-pst-563-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00137a

[little osprey]

Does it have the airflow?

....honestly

How's this?

[frigid night]

I like that case.

[mossy venture]

that case is good, just expensive

[frigid night]

I also like the Lian Li O11D Evo

[little osprey]

Eh...just an extra $50

But question is....

functionality wise.....

[frigid night]

the cool thing about that case is...

that front glass panel that's diagnonal.

can be replaced with a addon screen

[little osprey]

It does look nice

[little osprey]

ooo

But yeah

functionality wise

[frigid night]

it's a good case funtionally

[little osprey]

yey or ney?

[frigid night]

just spendy because aesthetic

just like the lian li o11d evo

Which case was recommended to you?

[little osprey]

This

[frigid night]

no

[mossy venture]

idt thats the one i chose

[little osprey]

Yeah, although for an extra $50.....

[little osprey]

Better case, I'm guessing since it doesn't say "No Fan" anymore it means it comes with fans?

[frigid night]

This

[little osprey]

Nice

[little osprey]

Alright, going for this one

[frigid night]

SOLID

I like when someone gets a good case like that because they want it

[south cliff]

What is a push pull radiator setup

I don’t get how it works

[frigid night]

fans on both sides facing same direction

1 set is pushing air through rad, the other set is pulling air through

hence push/pull

[obsidian wigeon]

You don't need push pull tho

It has very small difference with temps

[south cliff]

I was thinking one set of fans was facing the other way

3 intake 3 outtake

[frigid night]

well no that would either be both pushing air through rad or both pulling air through rtad

[south cliff]

For some reason

Yeah I get it now

[frigid night]

🙂

[south cliff]

Thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

Push pull is just a waste of fans and money lel

[south cliff]

Looks kinda cool tho

[frigid night]

so is aesthetics in general though

sometimes a push/pull can look good

[obsidian wigeon]

Fair enough

[little osprey]

If I want 32gbs of ram what should I get?

[mossy venture]

upgrading ram is super easy I'd just do that yourself, It's much cheaper

[little osprey]

Why is there a video capture card option? Can't I just use something like OBS?

[mossy venture]

yes

[little osprey]

is the GeForce RTX™ 4070 12GB good for my use that I mentioned earlier

[obsidian wigeon]

it's plenty

[little osprey]

Alright...

Watchyall think?

....part of me still wants a Ryzen 7

[earnest olive]

it's your money

at the end of the day if you want it get it

[little osprey]

See that's the thing

[earnest olive]

I can personally say as someone who owned a 5600x and a 5800x

[little osprey]

I'm not so much worried about the money when it comes to this price range...

[earnest olive]

if you swapped them while I was asleep, I wouldn't notice

[little osprey]

I'm just looking for the performance

[earnest olive]

there's no performance gain

if you wanna burn money go for a 7600 or 4070ti

then you'll actually gain some performance for the money at least

[little osprey]

What about the processor tho?

[earnest olive]

7600 is a processor

ryzen 5 7600

[little osprey]

Cause as you can see the Ryzen 5 I currently have selected....I'm still skeptical on whether or not I should get a Ryzen 7

[obsidian wigeon]

No need lol

[earnest olive]

like i said

[little osprey]

Is the Ryzen 5 7600 similar to the Ryzen 7 5800x?

[obsidian wigeon]

Don't buy into the marketing tbh

[earnest olive]

everyone has told you it's a bad idea, if you still want to do it then just do it

it's your money not ours

[earnest olive]

it's better

[little osprey]

Alright

fine

my arm has been twisted

[obsidian wigeon]

5800x is better, but if it costs more to get it, don't tbh

[little osprey]

In what way is it better?

[obsidian wigeon]

Wait

My brain got it confused lmao

[earnest olive]

newer architecture

uses faster ddr5 memory

[obsidian wigeon]

Forget that, sips is right

I was just confused

[earnest olive]

(the 7600)

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

Alright bet

[obsidian wigeon]

Go for the ryzen 5

Less cores but still faster

[little osprey]

With less cores what does it affect?

[earnest olive]

are you purely gaming?

[little osprey]

In a way

[earnest olive]

there tends to be about zero scaling above 6 cores in gaming

[obsidian wigeon]

It doesn't, nope

6 cores is enough

[little osprey]

Well the highest game I can think of that I might possibly play is MSFlight2020

[earnest olive]

current gen consoles are using 8 much weaker cores, but 1 is reserved for OS anyways, so more like 7 much weaker cores

[obsidian wigeon]

Some games like over 6 but it's not significant enough

[little osprey]

With this set up will it run?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yes

[little osprey]

On what quality?

Obv the higher the lower framerate and whatnot but like

[obsidian wigeon]

As high as the gpu can handle lel

I don't really know the game much

[little osprey]

what about the ram I selected...

32GB (8GBx4) DDR4/3600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+75] (Team T-Force Delta RGB)

[obsidian wigeon]

But the cpu will be enough

No, choose ddr5

[earnest olive]

you'd need ddr5 if you went for a 7600

[obsidian wigeon]

7600 only takes ddr5

[little osprey]

for an AMD?

[runic spruce]

U could buy parts and pay a local computer shop to build it

Or watch a tutorial

[frigid night]

Or come here and ask us for help

[little osprey]

Thing is I don't have enough time to build it and I'm not sure about taking it to a PC shop

1 cause I'm lazy and 2 eh....

more money to spend

[obsidian wigeon]

Do you have a microcenter near you?

[little osprey]

I wish

[obsidian wigeon]

rip

[runic spruce]

Building it yourself should take 5-6 hrs tops for a new builder

[obsidian wigeon]

I mean if you don't wanna build, it's understandable

[frigid night]

is fun though

[obsidian wigeon]

My first pc is too a prebuilt, but that's mostly because I was in the height of pandemic

GPUs were absurdly priced lol

[little osprey]

Yikes

alright alright

rewinding....

[little osprey]

I'm looking at the RAM cause idek what I just selected

all I know is that I want 32gb

[obsidian wigeon]

It has to be ddr5

[little osprey]

oh yeah

hold up

Although someone told me for DDR5 I need Intel...

AMD runs DDR4 is what I've been told

[runic spruce]

Nah it just had to be the later generations

Both amd and intel can run ddr5

And ddr4 on intel

[obsidian wigeon]

Uh, AM5 only takes ddr5

[runic spruce]

Oh

[obsidian wigeon]

And 7600 is on AM5

[little osprey]

welp....

aint no DDR5 option

[obsidian wigeon]

AMD usually names their socket according to the ram standard it uses

If we were to still run ddr4, the 7600 wouldn't have been this much faster

[earnest olive]

AMD FX/A: don't even think about it
Ryzen 1000-5000: DDR4
Ryzen 7000: DDR5

Intel 6000-9000: DDR3 or DDR4
Intel 10000-11000: DDR4
Intel 12000-13000: DDR4 or DDR5

[runic spruce]

I forgot amd cashe speed was linked with ram

I’m kinda rusty at computers

[earnest olive]

uhh...

not quite

[obsidian wigeon]

Not cache, but infinity fabric

The link between everything on the cpu

[earnest olive]

also, on ryzen 3000 and later, it's not enforced, just a suggestion

[obsidian wigeon]

Ye

[runic spruce]

Yea but doesn’t it increase delay in ram or something

[obsidian wigeon]

You can run off sync to an extent and gain perf

[little osprey]

Welp.....

[earnest olive]

I ran 4800 ram with 1900 fclk on my 5800x for fun

[little osprey]

So since this website doesn't have a DDR5 option....

What shall I do

[earnest olive]

well maybe the configurator you're looking at is for am4

[obsidian wigeon]

Bump down on the chip or get Intel

[runic spruce]

Weren’t u looking at a 5600x for the cpu?

[obsidian wigeon]

Or look at a different configurator available

[runic spruce]

That only runs ddr4

[little osprey]

Originally the Ryzen 7 5800x but got down to a 5600x

cause apparently they're the same

[runic spruce]

Those only run ddr4

[earnest olive]

I've never gone prebuilt configurator shopping before I dunno how it works

[little osprey]

Exactly that's what I'm saying

[little osprey]

so the current one I have selected is the AMD Ryzen™ 5 5600X 3.7GHz [4.6GHz Turbo] 6 Cores/ 12 Threads 35MB Total Cache 65W Processor

However the GPU

GeForce RTX™ 4070 12GB GDDR6X