building-and-recc-chat

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

[formal mica]

why does the AMD ryzen 7 7700x cost so much more compared to intel i5 13600kf

[potent portal]

Motherboards cost more too

That's just how it is for AMD, they did some major changes so we have to pay the price of their re-tooling and engineering

[formal mica]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/643824/montech-x3-mesh-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-black case no go or yes?

[obsidian wigeon]

You can go with A620 mobos btw

or the $125 B760 asrock hdv

[formal mica]

im trying to make a cart for microcenter

[obsidian wigeon]

As long as it has heatsink it will be fine

AM5 has high standards for mobos

But honestly, Z690 boards offers more and doesn't cost a lot

[potent portal]

That would be ok

[potent portal]

B650?

[obsidian wigeon]

oh sorry

i meant b650

[potent portal]

And is A620 out? I haven't seen any yet but I haven't been keeping track

[obsidian wigeon]

they are

[potent portal]

Ah cool

[obsidian wigeon]

newegg had some

[formal mica]

is this monitor bad if so should I get the gigabyte off of newegg?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/634763/Ultragear_27GL83A-BAUS_27_2K_WQHD_2560_x_1440)_144Hz_Gaming_Monitor;FreeSync-_G-Sync_Compatible;_HDMI_DisplayPort;_3-Sided_Frameless

[potent portal]

That would be a little better than the G27Q actually

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-27gl83a-b-vs-gigabyte-g27q/1627/12904?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

[formal mica]

ok then is the only thing microcenter do deals on is the motherboard cpu and ram

[potent portal]

As of this minute yes.
OH but they might still have the "free SSD" deal just for walking in and registering

Could use that as a boot drive and the 2TB for games

[formal mica]

yea I believe they I still see the ads for it lol

Do i need to buy a new windows if I end up going windows?

[potent portal]

Microsoft wants you to but you don't technically need to buy it at all

[formal mica]

Yea I didnt know about the key thing

[potent portal]

If you wanted to you can find keys around $25 easy

[formal mica]

wanna pass me your key

[potent portal]

My key is digitally tied to my MS account so no lol

[formal mica]

I have two computers with windows is there no way for me to just transfer or something

[potent portal]

Keys can only be active on one PC at a time, but retail keys can be transferred if you won't be using the other one much/at all any more

OEM keys cannot be transferred

[formal mica]

whats OEM

[potent portal]

If you got a prebuilt PC with Windows installed you probably got an OEM key

[flint sapphire]

[formal mica]

...

fudge

I got a laptop and a prebuilt crap box lmao

[potent portal]

Well there's always the free way of using Windows

Which is to just not activate it

[formal mica]

Whats the difference?

[potent portal]

You can't use the personalization menu (easily bypassed) and might get a watermark on the corner of your screen

If the watermark bugs you enough keys are $25 like I said

[formal mica]

should I use windows 10 or 11

yea

[potent portal]

11

[formal mica]

why?

[potent portal]

Your CPU of choice has Intel E-cores and the necessary thread scheduler isn't in 10

[formal mica]

Im using it right now and I feel like its worst than 10

[potent portal]

You can strip out the useless features and tracking pretty easily

Even reskin it to look like 10 lol

[formal mica]

also if I go to microcenter this is the deal im getting

[potent portal]

But really 10 will not get along with an Intel chip with e-cores, things will crash or just be slow, sometimes anti-cheat gives false bans

[cyan ravine]

Solid

[potent portal]

If you did AMD then you can go for 10 no issue

Or there would be no issue if MS hadn't turned off the activation service

But you can install it lol

[formal mica]

all im missing is power supply

[potent portal]

I mis-remembered, they're only stopping sales of keys so any existing keys in the wild will work still

[formal mica]

surprisingly microcenter dosent have any good deals for power supplys

unless im blind

[potent portal]

If you're going AMD you can do a 750W, Intel is a power hog

[formal mica]

gimme a brand

thats good for psu

[potent portal]

How about a link instead https://www.microcenter.com/product/632970/msi-mpg-a750gf-750-watt-80-plus-gold-atx-fully-modular-power-supply

[formal mica]

thatll work

should I save me 30 bucks and order this one https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm750e-cp-9020262-na-750-w/p/N82E16817139307?Description=750 watt&cm_re=750_watt-_-17-139-307-_-Product

[potent portal]

That would be a good one too

Might as well save money where you can

[formal mica]

I think we already are lol

well that fan aint going to work thats am4 not 5 lol

[cyan ravine]

Am4 is compatible with am5

[potent portal]

It'll work with AM5 they probably haven't updated the page

[formal mica]

oh

[obsidian wigeon]

AM4 can mount with AM5

[formal mica]

didnt know that

[cyan ravine]

Ye they endeavoured that for am5

Made it a hot cpu as a result

[potent portal]

And in the strange case where you get one that's been on a shelf for over a year you can get the AM5 bracket free from Deepcool

[formal mica]

hmmm

[cyan ravine]

OOOO

[formal mica]

that would bring me under 2k for the build

[cyan ravine]

YES

THAT'S KINDA AMAZING

WHAT VERSION XTX IS IT

[potent portal]

XTX is more than you need tbh, more of a 4k target and you'd need the 850W PSU again

[cyan ravine]

XTX for 900 is amazing

And ye 850W needed

Worth it tho

[formal mica]

oh xtx is in the build now fal

[potent portal]

Alright then go for it lol

[formal mica]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vD9fQ6#compatibility_notes I was going off of this one for microcenter

[potent portal]

You can reserve the GPU on the site for your visit

[formal mica]

well idk if im going yet or not or I would

gotta talk tomorrow

about it

[potent portal]

Hope it's still there for you then

[formal mica]

me to its not that big of a deal if not my dad probably wouldnt let me buy it since its opened anyways

[potent portal]

It's still under warranty though

[formal mica]

oh then I guess its okay then

what should I use for warranty nothing?

[potent portal]

What do you mean?

[formal mica]

what things should I get a warranty for

I usualy dont get none with anything didnt know if its different with computer compenonts

[potent portal]

Oh extended warranty, maybe the monitor if anything. Screens can die unexpectedly.

[obsidian wolf]

Extended warranty GPU if it makes sense for you even though I would say psu would make a lot more sense

Since psu are so expensive

That's what I did

and it's like 10$

at micro obviously

[formal mica]

psu is getting ordered off newegg

[obsidian wolf]

ah

them okay

Tbh fal cle can we agree

[potent portal]

PSU already has a 7 year warranty tho

[obsidian wolf]

is based most on what you feel like changing to future

[obsidian wigeon]

I don't think a psu needs warranty lol

[obsidian wolf]

For micro is more

like price

you get to return

[obsidian wigeon]

A good psu already has long warranty

[obsidian wolf]

psu

and for that price

2 years down the line you can get a better one

[formal mica]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm750e-750-w/p/N82E16817139300?Description=750 watt&cm_re=750_watt-_-17-139-300-_-Product did I need a 850 watt

[obsidian wolf]

no

Could though

[potent portal]

For the XTX yes

[obsidian wigeon]

The psu is gonna outlast the warranty

[obsidian wolf]

unless you are overclocking

[formal mica]

No i think overclocking is stupid in my opinon

[obsidian wigeon]

Especially on sfx psu

[obsidian wolf]

well them you can do what I did...

I run my 6950 on a 650 psu

[obsidian wigeon]

SFX psus are more sensitive to transients

[obsidian wolf]

the xtx on the 750

will be ok

as long as no overclocking

[obsidian wigeon]

Can't apply same logic to sfx lol

They are very sensitive to transients

[obsidian wolf]

:V

[potent portal]

Much smaller bulk caps yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

ATX psu is more resistant to the same situation

You risk instability more with an sfx

[obsidian wolf]

mmmm

is atx

though

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah the rm is atx

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah I didn't recommend something else

[formal mica]

where we get sfx from?

[obsidian wigeon]

the form factor

[potent portal]

I thought foxy wanted to shift the topic lol

[formal mica]

lol

[obsidian wolf]

ah

My name

MonkyFrank has an actual meaning

[obsidian wigeon]

find psus that says sfx

[obsidian wolf]

https://www.newegg.com/segotep-750w-sfx-750-w/p/1HU-00Z0-000B5?Item=9SIBGX1JA26872&Description=psu sfx&cm_re=psu_sfx-_-9SIBGX1JA26872-_-Product&cm_sp=SP-_-1777858-_-0-_-3-_-9SIBGX1JA26872-_-psu sfx-_-sfx-_-1

[obsidian wigeon]

the cm gold sfx is one of the best ones however

dunno about segotep's sfx quality

[obsidian wolf]

ah

warranty

Lmao

I got lost

[potent portal]

Tier C

[obsidian wolf]

talking about

[obsidian wolf]

I'm not recommending it

[obsidian wigeon]

oh it's tier c

[obsidian wolf]

Again I only recommend

[obsidian wigeon]

not bad

[obsidian wolf]

CM

For this build

[formal mica]

CM?

[obsidian wigeon]

cm is cooler master

[formal mica]

ok

[obsidian wolf]

For my build I went tier A, wouldn't expect anyone going under that with a 6700 and above

[obsidian wigeon]

b tier is just fine

[potent portal]

Too many abbreviations and acronyms, I get it

B tier is fine at the 70/700 level

A tier is more for 80/800 and up

[obsidian wolf]

Well

I just gotta make sure

since I am keeping it close between psu limit

and comsumption

don't want no short circuit

[formal mica]

should I just go 850 to be on the safe side @potent portal

[potent portal]

Worst thing that happens is it shuts off and you have to flip the power switch. C tier or better won't die for no reason.

[potent portal]

I would personally but they are right that 750W would be ok if you're not planning on pushing it

[obsidian wolf]

• it saves you 50$

[potent portal]

$30 but yeah

[obsidian wolf]

a tier

[formal mica]

which would you reccomend for 850

[obsidian wolf]

850 watt

for 130$ where

I need to know

I want it too now

[potent portal]

$40 mb https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YYZ9TW/nzxt-c850-2022-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-pa-8g1bb-us

[formal mica]

about to be a shllshocker

[obsidian wolf]

A

[potent portal]

That's an A tier too

[formal mica]

well

I guess I know what im doing tomrrow

depends how much on sale tho

[potent portal]

Check early, good stuff sells out fast

[formal mica]

well about to be up in 45mins

[potent portal]

That MP33 2TB might also be worth looking at if it's under $80

Man I need to check these again more often

[formal mica]

what the shellshockers?

[potent portal]

yeah

$16 AC1300 wifi adapter, $110 8TB HDD, $7.50 128GB SD card...

[obsidian wolf]

:V

Why should he go for the hard drive though

[potent portal]

That was for me lol

[obsidian wolf]

ah

lol

soon enough ssd will keep going down in the price so low

That HDD will become just big houses of data

like big

i would think 12 and 16 up

[potent portal]

That 8TB is $13.75 per TB, I don't see SSD getting near that any time soon

[obsidian wolf]

to make it competition viable

Not close to 8tb

but soon enough to 4tb

that is a good price spot

for the 4tb hard drive

at 40 something dollars

[potent portal]

I'm thinking we're bottoming out at $40 per TB right now, I don't see it going much lower for a bit

But that's just my opinion

[obsidian wolf]

Yeah I understand

I mean it will also be a lot of part on the price of the components and if companies can make it more cheap than that per piece make/revenue

I can see it

[potent portal]

Yeah that is what's keeping those lower capacity HDDs at higher cost still

All those moving parts cost money

[obsidian wolf]

The small things are the things that make up the most prices in a lot of computer parts crazily enough

[potent portal]

Magnets aren't cheap either now

[obsidian wolf]

mmm

[potent portal]

If you wanted to scrape the bottom of the barrel here's what you get https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DXOJJQQ

[obsidian wolf]

actual bruah

[potent portal]

That drive makes me want to gag

[obsidian wolf]

Imagine one day

[cyan ravine]

Minimum barracuda or wd blue imo

[obsidian wolf]

Someone comes with a pc part picker with that in there

Don't get me wrong

[cyan ravine]

Don't cope with sub tier hdd

[obsidian wolf]

I would've done that 2 years back

But again]

Who are this target too

:V

[potent portal]

The targets are the people that don't notice the 1 yr warranty

[formal mica]

lol

[obsidian wolf]

Why do they even exist to the public market at this point, where this overproduced? And the changing market created this products that can not be sold anywhere.

I can see that happening that way

[potent portal]

I think they made a bunch of trash that couldn't sell ages ago and they're re-labeling them

[obsidian wolf]

but any other way, such as a company saying that they are making it to target an audience in 2023 so specifical, that 64 mb of hdd is enough, must be crazy.

[obsidian wolf]

Sounds like the 'new' gaming computers

in amazon for 300$

[potent portal]

lol yeah "Amazon renewed "

[obsidian wolf]

jaja

'No money back

if left at your door and lost, etc,etc

[formal mica]

4mins

[frigid night]

I too have been watching the clock xD

[formal mica]

lol

just wanna see if the psu is worth buying or the ssd

does it not open all the deals at once???

[frigid night]

hm?

[formal mica]

it says another hour }:

[frigid night]

odd

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005?Item=9SIAMNPAY43503&cm_sp=Dailydeal_SS-_-9SIAMNPAY43503-_-04052023

[potent portal]

pass

[frigid night]

How much does this say for you?

[potent portal]

$150

[formal mica]

120

[frigid night]

says 115 after promo

[potent portal]

Oh yeah now it shows $115

[formal mica]

now it does yea

[potent portal]

That's good then

[formal mica]

the 2tb worth buying or no

[frigid night]

it's $80 so ya

[potent portal]

It's a good drive and that's a good price

[formal mica]

so i shouldnt get the other drive then?

[potent portal]

Yeah save some money and get the MP33, you won't see any difference for gaming

[formal mica]

ok

[potent portal]

$115
https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-iii-sf-850f14hg-850w/p/1HU-024C-00005

[formal mica]

lol

told him

how fast will these go

you think

or will they at all

I still got to wait till later to buy

[potent portal]

They'll be in stock for a few hours, maybe til 6 AM if past trends follow

[formal mica]

lol

rip then

[potent portal]

Maybe you'll get lucky though

[frigid night]

yeah the psu and ssd will likely be the first 2 go oos

[formal mica]

ive never seen them sold out so idk

how dare you put it in tech deals lmao

[frigid night]

xD

[potent portal]

Sorry I have to spread the word lol

No one is on right now anyway

[formal mica]

d***

[potent portal]

At least I didn't put the SSD lol

[frigid night]

To bad that z590 is 10th/11th.. I need a good mobo for 9th gen that can support 3200+ RAM lol

[formal mica]

I cant even buy till probably 10 to noon

[potent portal]

Put it in your cart and you'll get a notice if it goes out of stock

[formal mica]

im about to go to bed lmao

3am

me tired

[potent portal]

Ok, g'night then

[formal mica]

2,020.48 total cost of build if everything panes out

[potent portal]

I'll stay up with the aussies as usual

[formal mica]

lol

[frigid night]

@potent portal sorry to bug you, but what would be a cheap board new/used for a 9600k that I could run at least 3200 ram?

[potent portal]

3200 eh, so you'll want a Z390

[potent portal]

First thing that popped up, I'll look for cheaper https://www.ebay.com/itm/144875460628

Low rep seller and no description if you want to take a chance https://www.ebay.com/itm/144981623477

[frigid night]

hm

[potent portal]

Here we go this one looks good https://www.ebay.com/itm/334683063067

[frigid night]

will z370 not support 3200"?

[potent portal]

Most Z370 on the market are OEM trash

[frigid night]

oh ok

[frigid night]

quick q on this.. it says DDR4 SDRAM, I'm not sure what the difference is between that and just DDR4?

[potent portal]

Same thing

[frigid night]

Oh ok, I've never seen it put that way xD

[potent portal]

Yeah all the Z370 I see are OEM or have a tiny heatsink (if they have one at all)

[tawny fiber]

It's also a 9600k 🤷‍♂️

[potent portal]

True enough

Most of them also ship from china though

I don't trust customs with my socket

[frigid night]

I just need something that isn't the b360m.. that way I can sell a solid Battle Royal PC xD

[potent portal]

Oh it's for reselling? In that case...

[obsidian wigeon]

for reselling it doesn't matter much

[frigid night]

I figure marketing it with an i5 is better than building a pc with my 12100 and marketing it as an i3 😛

[potent portal]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/115749531554

[frigid night]

yeah but with the b360m.. I'm cutting ram perf by up to 20%

[obsidian wigeon]

but does it matter?

nope

i mean 9th gen runs ok enough with slow ram

[frigid night]

I feel like it does a little at least.

[potent portal]

Scummy as it may sound, all you have to do is not specify the motherboard in the listing. Answer honestly if asked but you don't have to specify.

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frigid night]

so the -/+ 20% ram perf hit won't really affect gaming to much?

[potent portal]

Not as much on 9th gen no

[obsidian wigeon]

not to a noticeable extent

9th gen doesn't mind running at 2666

[frigid night]

oh, well then I'll just save the money.

[obsidian wigeon]

9400f was a decent cpu for its time despite being only able to run at 2666

[frigid night]

Since it can only run 2666.. What ram should I get?

[obsidian wigeon]

was a decent contender for 3600, just lacked ht to make it a strong competition

[frigid night]

That's all I need left.

[obsidian wigeon]

any cheap ddr4 kit will work

[frigid night]

like cheapest of cheap?

[obsidian wigeon]

but tbh 3200 kits are like only less than 40 bucks

yeah cheapest of cheap that still has heatsink

having naked ram ain't gonna look good

[frigid night]

alright

well then..

I also didn't know that 9600k didn't have ht

I thought it did, but it seems like only i7+ had it in those gens

[potent portal]

Yep that was an i7+ feature for a long time

AMD forced Intel to change that when Ryzen got big

[obsidian wigeon]

8700K funnily enough lacked ht

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/g8VG3C/team-t-force-zeus-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl20-memory-ttzd416g3200hc20dc01

[obsidian wigeon]

cl20, dem average 2018 ram specs

[potent portal]

Or spring the extra buck for cl16 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5

(even though it won't run nearly at that)

[obsidian wigeon]

it'll be 2666 cl whatever anyway

[potent portal]

Yep whatever jedec bin it has

[obsidian wigeon]

jedec fun

[frigid night]

hm, I wonder if that's better than the patriot viper kit I have

[potent portal]

What's your kit's specs?

[frigid night]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h8dxFT/patriot-viper-4-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-pv416g320c6k

[potent portal]

Nope that's the same

[frigid night]

alright

actually has me thinking though because it could be this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pZfmP6/patriot-memory-pv416g240c5k

Let me just go pull the stick from my other PC rq

I really don't remember what it is xD

I just know it looks like that and is that brand/name

[potent portal]

Well if you wanted to you could upgrade your personal kit to this and just chuck the old 16GB kit in the 9600k https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2LMTwP/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320fda

[frigid night]

and it's 16gbn

lms rq. I'm gonna be upgrading my girl from a 6500/580 to a 12100/1080 in a couple days when it all shows up.

so if the ram is already fine then I'll just get that cheap stuff

[potent portal]

2800 c16

I'd jump on the upgrade, $58 for 32GB and it's faster

Then slap those on the B360 board where they can be mediocre in peace

[frigid night]

the PC is only used for MMO/COD games. Does it really need 32gb? My girl doesn't really play to many games.

[potent portal]

It's less about the 32GB and more about the Dual Rank

Dual rank memory is noticeably faster at that speed than single rank

[frigid night]

Alright. Is ballistix 2x16 3200c16 dual rank?

[potent portal]

Should be, but you can tell from the sticker

[flint sapphire]

I’ve seen cod destroy ram btw 👀

Like high utilization

[frigid night]

oh man that'll be a min. that pic is buried deep

Best pic I have.

[potent portal]

Possibly micron rev.b which would make it single rank

[frigid night]

it's rev e

[potent portal]

That was the other possibility yes

[frigid night]

so still single rank?

[potent portal]

It could be either tbh rev.e has 8Gb and 16Gb dies

[frigid night]

idk if this helps

[potent portal]

You'd be able to tell from looking at the sticks themselves, if they have chips on both sides or only one

And I'm guessing that 2206 means it was manufactured in 2022 which is after 16Gb started production so no help there

Thaiphoon burner could also tell you

[dense brook]

For ddr4 3200 8Gx2
Crucial ballistix or cosair vengeance?

[potent portal]

DDR4? Crucial every day of the week

[dense brook]

Coollll thx

[frigid night]

This?
http://www.softnology.biz/files.html

[potent portal]

yes

[frigid night]

chrome is blocking te download lol

[potent portal]

I can zip up my copy for you and send it here

[frigid night]

I'd appreciate that.

[potent portal]

Once you load it up hit read and select a slot. They're in order counting from the CPU.

[frigid night]

I only have windows defender

[potent portal]

Right click and run as admin

[frigid night]

I did

[flint sapphire]

[potent portal]

Weird it works fine on my computer

[frigid night]

I've only seen this error once before

and it was just a random pop up. I didn't even try to load anything

about 3 or 4 months ago

[flint sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-break-computer-programming-hacking-gif-7263541

[potent portal]

It might be some weird driver signature enforcement

You've got your chipset drivers installed?

[frigid night]

could this be stopping it?

[potent portal]

Possibly

Since the program does access low level info on the sticks

[coarse coral]

that lowers performance so much

i always have it off

[frigid night]

Fr?

Would having this off allow me to tighten my timings more then?

[potent portal]

No but you'll get more throughput

So it'll just "feel" faster which will be measurable in fps

[coarse coral]

it makes my games stutter and lowers my 3dmark scores by a lot you might have diff results.

[potent portal]

It has been a known issue, especially on AMD, since it was introduced

[frigid night]

that's crazy. turning it off didn't have an affect though

[potent portal]

restart

[frigid night]

I'm pretty sure I updated my chipset when I reinstalled windows, but I'll check

[potent portal]

Once you restart make sure it stayed off

https://www.pcworld.com/article/539139/tested-heres-how-much-the-new-windows-security-features-hurt-pc-performance.html

[frigid night]

oh hey, look what I found

[potent portal]

Ah that sounds more like it

[frigid night]

should I always have this off as well??

[potent portal]

Maybe just when you're using things that it would block, and turn it back on when you're done

[coarse coral]

me being reckless

[potent portal]

I don't even have those options since I have TPM and SVM off lol

[coarse coral]

[frigid night]

Ok. If my chipset wasn't up to date.. it is now. Restarting now.

Also with that memory integrity off. My PC boots so much faster lol

[coarse coral]

[frigid night]

alright, I must not have updated my chipset

now it's working

[potent portal]

Cool, once you read the stick data you'll be looking for something like this

[potent portal]

Dual rank

That's what 2Rx8 means

[frigid night]

also, HWBOT.

[potent portal]

Never hurts to have more than one person confirm it

[frigid night]

yep 🙂

well that's cool.

Thank you for helping me figure this out.. all the while speeding up my pc xD

[potent portal]

[coarse coral]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-elmo-elmo-rise-fire-flames-gif-19598540

[frigid night]

lol

I turned my driver block thing back on just because

kinda trips me out

I only did so because of that random error blocking a driver a couple months back from who knows what.

I was just sitting here on discord and it just popped up

[potent portal]

Funny how that all worked out in the end. Doing something barely related and you end up better off for it.

[frigid night]

and it all started with looking for a mobo for the 9600k xD

[potent portal]

Boy do we ever get off topic here

I wouldn't have it any other way

[frigid night]

alright I went ahead an ordered that 32gb kit for muh girly. I wanted to make sure it wasn't better than mine.. not that I don't want her to have something better than me, but if I can upgrade my PC first.. I will. Only because I use it 90% more than she uses hers.

[potent portal]

That's all good and fair sounding to me

[tawny fiber]

What is the gpu

[frigid night]

btw, is there any OC potential on that ram?

[tawny fiber]

With a 9600k gpu options are plenty

[frigid night]

which pc?

[frigid night]

the 32gb kit isn't for the 9600k.

[potent portal]

It'll be a grab bag of ICs, no idea what the potential is until it's in a system. The labels won't even help with that brand.

At least it'll be better than a C*rsair grab bag

[frigid night]

heh right?

Also, that same brand, but 16gb kit.. isn't dual rank?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zBTzK8/silicon-power-xpower-turbine-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-sp016gxlzu320bda

[potent portal]

Correct that'll be single rank since it has half the memory banks

[frigid night]

alrighty

only because I am unsure..

There are 2 listings

same thing? just 1 links to scamazon and the other to wegg

[potent portal]

Yeah they look the same

[frigid night]

ok cool

[tawny fiber]

https://youtu.be/x7WTvFhZJeU

That cpu seems pretty pog

[potent portal]

Too bad it's 6c/6t

Stupid artificial market segmentation

[frigid night]

yeah, tbh, it's looking like a 1660 will be good enough for battle royal games. 1080p ultra + fsr ultra 100+ fps.

and it's seeming like the market around here is people looking for pc just to play those style games.

[potent portal]

That all sounds about right

[frigid night]

alright.. says it'll be here by Saturday. Looks like I'll have her new pc up and running on Sunday then

as well as the battle royal PC 😛

I excite

Thanks for the help guys

[formal mica]

@potent portal whats a ups I should get/

[little osprey]

Yo could someone help me price my build?

I wanna sell it for a decent price where it’ll sell quicker than usual but also have enough to buy a 6750 XT new or used

It’ll be a bit before I can throw the parts list together

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lc4R78

[earnest olive]

probably $600-700

add some rgb fans and take a good picture maybe you can get 700-800

probably gonna take a while to move

prebuilt buyers don't like to see i3 or radeon

[little osprey]

🗿

Just add some fancy fans and it’ll sell 💀

[earnest olive]

it'll help

but it won't make it an easy sell

[little osprey]

True

[little osprey]

I mean I was thinking $400 at most TBH

I dropped like $500-$600 or something on this build

[earnest olive]

400 is undervaluing it a bit

i sold a pc with a 10 year old quad core xeon and 1060 3gb for 400

[little osprey]

Yeah but it’s used

[earnest olive]

you think my 10 year old hardware wasn't used?

[little osprey]

No

(Joking)

[little osprey]

I also want it to sell quicker, so anyone with a brain would know that’s somewhat cheap for the parts in it

Obviously not the best build, parts performance is inconsistent

[earnest olive]

what do you mean by that?

it's fairly balanced

[little osprey]

Meh

[earnest olive]

i think you can get a lot more than 400 if you're willing to wait

wasn't that long ago that i sold a 3600x/5700xt pc for 1k

[little osprey]

I mean, I’m gonna try to sell it to buy a 6700 XT/6800 XT

Rest of my next build I’ll pay for by working

[fleet heron]

6700 gang nice

[little osprey]

TBH I feel like I’m creating a bottleneck by wanting to do a 5700X/5800X with a 6700 XT/6800 XT

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[little osprey]

I forget how much 32GB DDR4 is

[obsidian wigeon]

it ain't a bottleneck lol

[earnest olive]

me running i3-12100 with 3090:

[little osprey]

I’ll be happy none the less if I can squeeze like $500 off my build by selling it on Facebook Marketplace or something

$600 would be super nice too

More than half my next build

[earnest olive]

me selling my old build for more than the cost of my new build:

[little osprey]

You just know how to market 😔

But yeah I’ll slap some RGB fans on the build later and decide from there

[earnest olive]

went from 5600x + 3070 to 5800x + 3090 for free

weee

[gentle pollen]

My Mobo just arrived ai plan to upgrade my system later today and I was wondering if it'd be as simple as just swapping out the CPU and Mobo then everything will be up and running? My current SSD is on a Intel system I am switching to a R7-5700g.

[paper summit]

I would do a fresh install

Far had alot of issues using his old windows install

But other than that yes you should be fine aslong as your mobo doesn't need a bios update

(It shouldn't)

[gentle pollen]

Should I do a Bios flash just Incase before I put the CPU in?

[gentle pollen]

Does that mean I need to buy yet another windows activation key?

[paper summit]

Nope

Let me dm you rq

[gentle pollen]

One more question, would doing a fresh install wipe my drive? If so I am gonna need to reinstall everything...

[gentle pollen]

Kay.

[paper summit]

Yes and no

You can back it up

If you have anything important on it

[gentle pollen]

Back it up on the drive?

Or do you mean on like Dropbox?

[paper summit]

If you alr have Dropbox yea that prob works dont quote me on that tho I don't usually back my stuff up💀

You can also do a windows reset

Which keeps your files but it may include the intel files sooo...

[gentle pollen]

What would happen if the Intel files are kept?

[paper summit]

May interfere with amd's drivers and cause issues/crashes

[gentle pollen]

Ooof so your saying it'd be better to just backup whatever files I want to keep and do a fresh Install then.

[paper summit]

Correct

[gentle pollen]

Ooof okay, I better prep myself for like 2 hours of backing up files.

[paper summit]

🗿

[gentle pollen]

Thankfully I have 3 drives and all I need to do is just wipe one of them and setup windows on it correct?

[paper summit]

Yep preferably your fastest one

[gentle pollen]

I have a Samsung 980 and MSI 370.

[paper summit]

Wait if you have multiple drives why not transfer your files to that instead?

[gentle pollen]

The other one is a hybrid SSD.

[gentle pollen]

That's what I am gonna do.

Transfer the files to another drive.

[paper summit]

980 for sure

[gentle pollen]

Wait, just realized isn't the 980 drive have a firmware issue?

[paper summit]

Oh..

I'm not sure

[gentle pollen]

I haven't experienced it myself but just checking.

Been using the drive for my games for weeks now but didn't experience any issues/dieing drives.

Will just update the firmware for the drive later today after I upgrade my computer.

.
So to sum it up, move the files I want to keep to my Samsung 980 then wipe my 370 drive and install windows on it correct?

[paper summit]

Oh i was gonna say use the 980 as boot since it's quicker

But honestly

Won't be a big difference if you can even notice it lol

[gentle pollen]

It's just boot speed correct?

Not like moving it to my 980 drive would affect the speed my games load up would it?

[paper summit]

Nah prob not

Even the new gen 5 drives don't make a noticeable difference in game load times lol

[gentle pollen]

Would it make a difference in workstation tasks?

Because I plan to start doing blender soon.

Okay, so

• backup files
• fresh windows install
• flash bios
• install CPU, drives, etc.

[potent portal]

Most people don't need a UPS but if you really need one amazon basics is ok for most people

[formal mica]

I live in the middle of no where and power goes off and on alot

I have already had a drive fail me becuase of the power flickering

[potent portal]

How long is it usually out for?

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Line-Interactive-1500VA-Watt-Outlets/dp/B07RWMLKFM?th=1

[formal mica]

depends longest its been is a week

[potent portal]

Oof

Well that UPS will keep you running even if you're in the middle of a game, and give you a good few minutes to shut it down safely. Maybe 30 or so.

[formal mica]

awesome

well this is the build hopefully when we head to columbus I can snag that card

[potent portal]

Looks like that open box is still there

Got lucky that they had enough SSDs and PSUs too so they're still in stock

[formal mica]

Ive never seen them go out of stock on a shellshocker

[potent portal]

That's an embedded CPU, basically a mobile chip

[obsidian wigeon]

it is legit

cuz well it's some obscure thing that's very wacky

[potent portal]

You'll need to change your nickname for this server btw

[obsidian wigeon]

the shop is very legit it seems

97.6% ratings

with lots of followers

and the reviews looks legit

i don't see why it would be fake

could be fun for some cheap wacky builds, but idk about the quality of the mobo. it's questionable long term

[earnest olive]

the support will be limited

[obsidian wigeon]

yep that too

[potent portal]

Yeah the board looks super basic

[earnest olive]

probably no warranty

[potent portal]

And what's up with the bottom M.2 slots

[obsidian wigeon]

you can get a 12700h board for about 300 bucks

now that looks interesting, but the mobo remains basic af

[earnest olive]

also want to note that it's actually downclocked compared to a real 11800H

since it's an ES

base and boost are both 100mhz lower

[obsidian wigeon]

oddly enough the 12700h one is not es

[earnest olive]

still seems like an interesting option if you're feeling adventurous

[obsidian wigeon]

nvm it said es too

[earnest olive]

similar price to an 12100f + cheap board

[earnest olive]

was about to say, maybe harvested from a dead laptop that still had a working cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

it probably is

[earnest olive]

12500h should beat 11800h

[obsidian wigeon]

due to how little p cores it has

[earnest olive]

umm nvm

i thought it would be 6p

it's only 4p

[obsidian wigeon]

4p yep

[earnest olive]

might still be better depending on the game

this board says it supports xmp which is nice

[obsidian wigeon]

it's fun if you feel adventurous

take the risk on your own

[earnest olive]

but the thing in the description about crashing under load is not confidence inspiring

[obsidian wigeon]

fair enough

[earnest olive]

read description before buying lol

I personally would not buy this

[obsidian wigeon]

same

it's a big risk

[earnest olive]

probably ES stability issues that they're trying to blame on the cards bc their excuse sounds like total crap

why would a video card vbios ever affect the frequency of a cpu

[potent portal]

That sounds like they're blaming the crashes on the GPU to me

Not even mentioning the CPU

[earnest olive]

but that shouldn't affect cpu loads like r23

[potent portal]

Exactly, they're just trying to pass blame

[earnest olive]

up to you, I wouldn't be confident in daily driving this

[potent portal]

Could be a fun project but yeah I wouldn't make this my daily

[earnest olive]

could be fun for hwbot, are ES chips allowed?

my 11800H is cooling limited

would be fun to strap a desktop cooler to one

[potent portal]

No they're not

[earnest olive]

sad

even with liquid metal my 11800H is limited to 135W

with cold ambient around 10C

[plain grove]

My monitor is supposed to be 240 but I noticed that it’s been stuck at either 60 or 120 and it’s shaded in grey so I can’t edit it either

[potent portal]

4k 240?

[plain grove]

No

It’s 1080p

[potent portal]

Oh, because it says 4k is the native resolution

[plain grove]

It’s not a 4K monitor

[potent portal]

Do you have DSR on?

[plain grove]

What’s that

[potent portal]

It renders at a higher resolution than the monitor supports

[plain grove]

Is it in the bios

[potent portal]

No in the drivers

I'm guessing it's off since you don't know

[plain grove]

Most likely

[potent portal]

Anyway scroll down to the PC resolutions

[plain grove]

It’s weird because it doesn’t let me edit the display settings

[potent portal]

The PC 1920x1080 option should let you set the higher refresh rate

[plain grove]

For pc it doesn’t show that

[potent portal]

Here?

[plain grove]

Oh I see

Most likely it’s because I duplicated the monitor with my tv

Fixed it

[gentle pollen]

I am about to start switching my mobo/cpu and I wanted to double check, do I need a USB stick to do a fresh install of windows?

[potent portal]

Ideally yes, technically no

[gentle pollen]

Where's the triangle I should be looking for?

[flint sapphire]

Top left

[gentle pollen]

Got it in.

All the pins fit in thankfully.

And the bent ones straightened out.

[formal mica]

[gentle pollen]

CPU, storage installed, now in the case it goes yes?

Ram just realized.

[potent portal]

Plug in CPU power now before it goes in the case, it'll save your fingers

Or route the cables before you place the board and plug it in before placing the board down

[gentle pollen]

Sorry just got back took a lil break.

[gentle pollen]

So put in the PSU then mount the Mobo with the cables pre-routed?

[frigid night]

Big brain. I've always just suffered xD

[frigid night]

Just push the CPU cables through the top part first. Plug into board then you can position board in to screw down. Don't have to have the CPU cables plugged into the PSU at that time.

[gentle pollen]

Gotta undo this to get my PSU out first.

My fingers are in so much pain from digging it out.

[potent portal]

You don't have to do the whole PSU, as long as the cable is in the board. That's the hard part.

[potent portal]

Tech tip for today

[gentle pollen]

Oh just the 24pin?

[potent portal]

The 8 pin for the cpu

That connector always ends up pressed against the top of the case so it's hard to get your fingers in there

You can do the 24 also

[gentle pollen]

I think I will do both since I am at it.

8 pin retrieved

Now to retrieve the 24pin.

Got both of em.

Which screw do I use to mount my Mobo?

[formal mica]

non of them

[gentle pollen]

NVM found it, Fractal lists the mounting screws.

4-11 of them.

Now I am confused as to which screws are which.

This guide does not give much info.

Mounted.

[dry tinsel]

5xxx series Ryzen, @gentle pollen ?

i like AM4 so much

but AM5's LGA sockets are really so much safer to work with

see: easily bent pins

[gentle pollen]

Would my arctic fans work with the built in fan hub?

[dry tinsel]

fans is fans, usually

[dry tinsel]

looks good

the brand of fan doesn't matter really

[potent portal]

The fractal hub needs 4 pin fans in order to control the speed. 3 pin will just run 100%.

[gentle pollen]

So it's a no then got it.

[potent portal]

Well you could still. P12 fans are still really quiet even at 100% lol

[gentle pollen]

Falcie you have the torrent right?

[paper summit]

Thought you meant the software at first

[gentle pollen]

My bad.

Was talking about the PC case.

Working on the front fans at the moment.

[empty pollen]

[gentle pollen]

How in the world do I remove the bottom fans on the Fractal Torrent?!

[gentle pollen]

Please could someone tell me how to remove the bottom fan bracket.....

I am honestly at a loss.

[potent portal]

There's 2 thumb screws and it slides off

[gentle pollen]

I removed the thumb screws.

Which way does it slide?

[potent portal]

It might get caught on the front fan

Towards you

Then you lift

[gentle pollen]

......

Now I feel like an idiot....

Thank you!

How should I orientate my AIO?

Doing a push pull config.

Tubes on the bottom or top?

[frigid night]

@potent portal I'm seeing a 10fps increase in my main game just from disabling that memory integrity

[gentle pollen]

These bloody fans are driving me crazy.

Can someone give me some advice on how to route these cables?

[regal shard]

That’s one thing I’m never looking forward to doing

I hope I never have to change my psu

[formal mica]

Falcie could you reccomend me a case? atx mid tower

[regal shard]

I need 850 watts to last me lol

[regal shard]

You still having this problem?

[plain grove]

No

[gentle pollen]

Finally semi cable managed 6 fans....

Was a nightmare.

[regal shard]

Sounds like one

[gentle pollen]

Where do these two plugs go?

[potent portal]

MX330-G Air is the budget option at $60. Fractal Focus 2 is good at $70. Fractal Pop Air is $90. 4000D airflow is $95. G360A at $100.

[formal mica]

ok thx

[stoic island]

Looks like Argb

Prob daisy chain argb

[gentle pollen]

I am confused which is for am4?

[gentle pollen]

Where does it go on my Mobo? B550M DS3H.

[potent portal]

The one on the right for AM4

[gentle pollen]

Thanks.

[potent portal]

Wait no both are used I think

Yeah bracket O goes tube side, N opposite side

[stoic island]

Both are used, one is on one side, the other on the other side of the pump

[gentle pollen]

Oh ok.

[stoic island]

D_led near the bottom of the board or above the 24pin

[gentle pollen]

D_LED1 I see on the bottom left.

I can't seem to find the second argb plug.

[stoic island]

You could do that or see if the one above 24pin is easier to get to

[formal mica]

Only reason I ask is becuase the case I chose did not fit my gpu

[gentle pollen]

Got the AIO pump mounted.

Where does this go?

[gentle pollen]

I only see male ports no females what should I do?

[stoic island]

You plug the connectors into the header, if the fans have the male pins, it's probably for daisy chaining into another fan

[gentle pollen]

So in other words your saying I daisy chained them the wrong way....?

[potent portal]

Looks like a VDG cable. Most people wouldn't use it.

[potent portal]

RGB signals work no matter which way the electricity goes on the chain

Just make sure a female end goes to the board and call it good

[gentle pollen]

My head hurts from all these cables.

I am starting to understand why people who use LianLi usually prefer it.

[potent portal]

RGB does make it 3x as complicated

[gentle pollen]

I have been at it for 6-7 hours.

[potent portal]

And uni fans are nice... If you have less than 8 fans and don't care about performance or noise

[gentle pollen]

The end of my 6 fans daisy chained are both female.

So I need to rechain them all so they become male?.....

[stoic island]

One will have the connector hanging out still, and that one is connected into the motherboard

[gentle pollen]

Can you show me a image?

My brain is basically dead at this point.

[potent portal]

Wait, are you saying one of the fans has 2 female ends? I'm lost

[gentle pollen]

I connected all the males to the females and the end connector is a female and the male is at the rads.

[potent portal]

Oh no that's normal

That leftover female goes to the male on the board

[gentle pollen]

My bad the ending connector is male

Not female

So to my understanding I need to redo the daisy chaining so I have a female connector for my Mobo correct?

[potent portal]

Maybe

It might help to start the chain by plugging into the board

[gentle pollen]

..... I am gonna hate reconnecting the AIO tomorrow.

I am gonna call it a night for now I am exhausted.

When are you guys available tomorrow if you don't mind helping me?

I'd really appreciate it.

[potent portal]

I pop in and out throughout the day when I can

That's why my pfp is Schrodinger lol

[obsidian wolf]

Aio Mania

New disease found among computer hardware consumers where an aio is bought for no reason other than looks

(Joking)

[potent portal]

I've seen some of those, symptoms are contagious too

[obsidian wolf]

Almost felt to it

[potent portal]

"What AIO is good for my 12100?"

[obsidian wolf]

The sickness is so contagious that I almost myself got the Msi Aio with pump problems

[potent portal]

Phew, dodged that bullet

[obsidian wigeon]

those 120mm aios too..

funnily enough lazada has a mesh rgb case that comes bundled with a 120mm aio

ez for flips and stuff

[manic cloak]

a 120mm aio with the 90mm lian li uni fan

[obsidian wigeon]

loud cooling noises

[earnest olive]

shoutout to the guy on hws selling a hardline 10100 build + no gpu

when you insist on having a $300 loop but your budget is $600

[fossil cedar]

Have a look at this balanced build
https://www.reddit.com/r/HardwareSwapUK/comments/121rl8k/sg_gaming_pc_w_950/

[cyan ravine]

ah yes

the corsair

[fossil cedar]

3900x and a r9 200

And expensive fan

[cyan ravine]

the guy is right, lucky to get 600

lmao

he's trying to get full price new

[boreal horizon]

im wanting to bld a computer for my aunt sompel word prssing light gaiming as well as internet she loves wathing stuff on pecock and tubi
[3:11 AM]
any ideas

[fossil cedar]

Country, budget? How light of gaming are you talking about?

[obsidian wolf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dD6nxs
Tier C PSU
Can definitely catch deals out there for better case or for better looking ram in case more rgb is wanted, the 6600 is good for it's price and capable of standing it's place in 1080p gaming, CPU is what the name says, and good space, an actual aunt build

@cyan ravine

[analog hearth]

12th gen kinda hot nevertheless though

[coarse coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-water-slub-spaced-out-dead-gif-27052193

[earnest olive]

lmao

[earnest olive]

uh... no?

stock cooler does perfect on a 12100

[fossil cedar]

Very balanced right, guy even said in comment that he thought he was being generous with the price

[earnest olive]

delusional

[haughty void]

#building-and-recc-chat message

holy crap

2 years ago

holy

i thought it was more recent than that

[manic mango]

Has anyone used fractal design ridge case?

[formal mica]

What kind of connector is this for a floppy disk drive

[gentle pollen]

Would it be fine if I plugged 9 fans into one header? I have a B550M DS3H board wondering because I only have 2 fan headers and I am pretty sure my AIO pump is gonna use one of them. The fans I want to daisy chain are 3xP14 and 6xP12 pwm pst argb.

[obsidian wigeon]

looks like ide

[obsidian wigeon]

gigabyte gives 2A header

it'll be fine

but even if it's 1A

9 is fine

[gentle pollen]

Got it. Any issues with connecting P12s to P14s?

[obsidian wigeon]

i would use p14 on another header

[fossil cedar]

Nah the daisy chain is literally just pwm anyway

Although if you had 9, I'd split to 2 headers

[gentle pollen]

What would be the damage concerns? Wondering because I only see CPU_FAN and SYS_FAN2.

[fossil cedar]

If there's a sys_fan2 there's a sys_fan 1

[gentle pollen]

I don't see SYS_FAN1 anywhere.

[fossil cedar]

@gentle pollen

[gentle pollen]

How big of a USB stick do I need for windows installation just Incase I need it?

[fossil cedar]

I think it's 8 gb but it'll say if you look it up

[paper summit]

Yea its 8

[gentle pollen]

Ty, @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

No prob

[formal mica]

just get you a big usb stick and download ventoy

for multiple isos

[paper summit]

Real

This is in fact the method

im using a hdd tho cause my flash drive is mad slow

[potent portal]

Ventoy new meta

[gentle pollen]

Iso?

What's ventoy.

[potent portal]

ISO is the format that most disk images use

Ventoy lets you simply copy ISOs to the USB drive and selecting the one you want instead of having to extract each individual one and configure GRUB for multiboot

[obsidian wigeon]

that's cool

[potent portal]

It's super cool. It doesn't work for everything but usually does.

[obsidian wigeon]

for me i just have multiple usb drives

[potent portal]

Now you know, and you can put 20 images on a single 32GB drive so you don't need to track which drive has what

[fossil cedar]

oh @gentle pollen i have a stripped version of win 11 pro if you dont want all the junk that comes with it by default if you planned on going 11

[gentle pollen]

What do you mean by stripped?

And yes.

I plan on going Win11.

[fossil cedar]

without all the junk apps like candy crush, clipchamp etc that auto preinstall

[formal mica]

gimmme

[fossil cedar]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bCOhiyh4mJ22Kvi5IZ3gPtwJLA6zeAj_/view?usp=sharing

[formal mica]

thx mate

[formal mica]

I would get 256gb flash drive its about 20 bucks if you get usb 3.2gen.

alot more Iso's

[fossil cedar]

np

[formal mica]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ Im going to microcenter tomrrow and buying most of these parts I just notice my build isnt going to look nice lmao

[fossil cedar]

btw you need to send the link in the box here

not the one from the url bar

[formal mica]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwXL8r

thats stupid

[fossil cedar]

its because it uses cookies

[formal mica]

those cookies

[fossil cedar]

youd want a better cooler btw

[formal mica]

they sound kinda good to eat

[fossil cedar]

ak400 is not enough for a 7900x

[formal mica]

ill think about

it

what should I get then lmao

xtx

[obsidian wigeon]

at least ag620 or better cooler

[gentle pollen]

Those preinstall?!

[obsidian wigeon]

ak400 ain't gonna cut it

[formal mica]

why not tho

[obsidian wigeon]

too much heat

[formal mica]

I dont see ag620 at this store

[paper summit]

To much heat to dissipate

[obsidian wigeon]

ak620 works too

[formal mica]

but its souble the price };

double

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

but you need it

[paper summit]

Do you want a pc that works like it should?

[obsidian wigeon]

or you'll have to jump cpu way down to 7600

[formal mica]

lol

[obsidian wigeon]

to make a fully working pc

[formal mica]

Danny calm down

[fossil cedar]

why not buy online too?

[formal mica]

im messing with him

[paper summit]

Bruh

[obsidian wigeon]

cooler can be bought online ya

[fossil cedar]

youd want at least a dual tower cooler bare minimum for a 7900x

[formal mica]

ive bought the power supply and storage already so planned to buy the rest in person with cash

[paper summit]

Well there's some people that are actually serious when they ask questions like that😭

[fossil cedar]

id save money on the motherboard and get a better cooler tbh

[gentle pollen]

Thanks pato for the iso. Just to check, you didn't strip anything else did you?

[formal mica]

its in a combo

[fossil cedar]

nah just unneeded stuff you could reinstall anyway

[gentle pollen]

Or is it just the junk apps. Cause ai don't mind keeping anything security related.

[gentle pollen]

Great thanks!

Once I am home I am gonna finish the cable routing than boot the PC and do a clean install.

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

that bundle isn't very good in price

[formal mica]

which should I get then

[obsidian wigeon]

the 7700x

[fossil cedar]

its decent if you actually need the 12 cores for workstation but yeah gaming 7700x

[obsidian wigeon]

ya that's the thing here

[formal mica]

I wanted to mess with davinic reslove in 4k

[obsidian wigeon]

you can use gpu for that

[formal mica]

I dont know whats a good match with my gpu so I dont know?

[obsidian wigeon]

for gaming the best cpu rn is actually 7800x3d

just get 7700x and be done with it

[formal mica]

yea but no bundle for it };

[obsidian wigeon]

it won't make a noticeable difference paying $100 extra

7700x can handle any gpus

[formal mica]

Ive always used intel so the price of that cpu for the amount of cores I get dont make sense

What does this mean by memory type?

[fossil cedar]

they are the memory speeds

4800mhz, 400mhz etc

[formal mica]

does O.C. mean overclocked?

[fossil cedar]

yeah but you can safely ignore the board frequencies they dont mean much

[formal mica]

So I cant use DDR5 6000 with this motherboard unless its overclocked

[fossil cedar]

you can use 6000mhz, as XMP and EXPO count as OC

[formal mica]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/662951/Vulcan_32GB_2_x_16GB)DDR5-6000_PC5-48000_CL38_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory_Kit_FLBD532G6000HC3-_Black https://www.microcenter.com/product/662287/Z790_UD_AC_Intel_LGA_1700_ATX_Motherboard so are these two compatiable?

[fossil cedar]

ye

[formal mica]

So I dont need to do anything special to make it work?

[fossil cedar]

nope,same with the micro center deal tho