#building-and-recc-chat

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cyan ravine
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I think the 50 extra for a new 6900XT would be worth it

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3080 for that much is a bit bleh

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But then again EU is a bit messed up lol

karmic mirage
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And its even better

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It is right?

obsidian wigeon
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yes

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much faster

cyan ravine
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Oh no I'd definitely say 6900xt is better

obsidian wigeon
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^

cyan ravine
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No question

karmic mirage
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Ah okay awesome ill go with that them

cyan ravine
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I'd only change mind if you were doing like, VR or blender

karmic mirage
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I do wanna do vr

cyan ravine
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Ah well then there you go

karmic mirage
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So 3080 best bet?

cyan ravine
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Kinda worth going the other way then

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I feel like you could get one cheaper

karmic mirage
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Tried to but cant find them

cyan ravine
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Looked in r/Hardwareswap?
(Do they have an eu group?)

karmic mirage
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Idk

cyan ravine
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Might be worth a look

karmic mirage
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But 6900xt here is 1000 euros

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Wait let me look second hand

cyan ravine
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Jeez if a 6900xt is 1000 then maybe a 3080 is reasonable after all

karmic mirage
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Second hand one 1 is 600 euros

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The others 800 euros

cyan ravine
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Amazon DE has merc310 for 720 euros new

karmic mirage
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And its only waterblock

cyan ravine
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Different region?

karmic mirage
cyan ravine
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Germany ok tho?

vital patrol
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Hi guys, someone from here use Asus Rog Strix B650E-E Gaming Wifi MB? I want to buy a memory kit of 32gb ram 6000Mhz CL32 DDR5 from G.Skill Neo RGB and dont know if this is compatible. On website just cl 30, 36 and 40 are presented as compatible.

karmic mirage
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netherlands

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btw 7900xt is like 60 euros cheaper then a new 6900 xt

cyan ravine
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It is???

karmic mirage
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it is

cyan ravine
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That would be way better

karmic mirage
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but its still 900 euros

cyan ravine
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There's also 6800xt for 600 euro

karmic mirage
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880

cyan ravine
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The seller seems good

karmic mirage
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for vr then?

cyan ravine
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Not really no ,šŸ˜‚

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Lolol

karmic mirage
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lmfao

cyan ravine
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Used 3080 for 600 seems more decent though after looking through Netherlands pricing

karmic mirage
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yep

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well then 3080 it is

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evga ftw 3080 im going for

cyan ravine
karmic mirage
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thank you a lot for your help

cyan ravine
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Np

inland mason
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where is help channel

flint sapphire
elfin flame
# inland mason where is help channel

Depends on what type of help you need.

If you need help with an order, then DM @fresh garden.
If you need help with building a PC, troubleshooting, suggestions and/or advice, then here or any hardware specific channels work.

heavy atlas
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can someone put a psu a gpu in this build for me?

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bc this is my first build

paper summit
heavy atlas
paper summit
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Still no lol

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Are you copying the link thay It provided above your build

heavy atlas
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is that good?

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idk why it says psu is 300

analog hearth
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it says it's $329.00 because it's only available on Amazon, where it isn't available on Newegg or Corsair

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if you want my advice, check the PSU tier list and see if there's another 850W PSU that's cheaper. because $330 for an 850W PSU is too much

heavy atlas
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wb the gpu?

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what will be a good 1?

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or is that one good?

obsidian wigeon
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That psu price is ouch

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Is this going to be a new pc or?

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Cause the list is missing so many things

analog hearth
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I wouldn't know about the GPU. but I know for sure that PSU is stupidly overpriced

heavy atlas
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i already have everything else

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besides the gpu and psu

analog hearth
heavy atlas
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that’s my build

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i’m missing the psu and gpu

obsidian wigeon
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hm ok

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lemme edit that whole build for you, with the parts you haven't gotten

heavy atlas
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ok

analog hearth
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idk whether you're going for that 6800 XT as an upgrade, but personally I don't think it would be worth it as an upgrade from a 6800

heavy atlas
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man what?

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i haven’t built my pc yet😭

obsidian wigeon
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A bit cheaper and better psu

analog hearth
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if you already have a 6800, don't upgrade to a 6800 XT. I would just overclock the 6800 (I'm also just waking up and idk the full context of what's going on lol)

heavy atlas
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it says the Radeon RX 6600 is on sale for 270

obsidian wigeon
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That's a big downgrade

heavy atlas
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so just stick with the gpu in my build?

analog hearth
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yes

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I'd learn to overclock if you don't already know how. you can use the Radeon drivers that you have installed for your GPU

heavy atlas
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ok

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what’s radeon drivers?

analog hearth
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the drivers for your GPU

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this driver

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and please tell me you have that installed lol

little osprey
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Is there a 32GB DDR4 RAM kit with RGB that I could sync with my G360A's pre-installed fans?

neat mango
analog hearth
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the motherboard typically comes with the bracket. your AIO will come with anything extra for either socket (whether it's AM4, LGA1700, etc.)

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if the AIO states it supports your socket, it'll come with any additional parts if needed

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I found this in the description. given that you stated for LGA1700, it'll fit

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@neat mango

neat mango
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@analog hearth thank you my man

paper summit
little osprey
paper summit
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Wym

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You can control them with the on board rgb controler that's uses buttons on top of the case

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Or

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You can plug It into the mobo and use software

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So they match the ram

little osprey
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What kind of software would I use?

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So wait what kind of RAM kit with RGB would be good for that?

paper summit
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Your mobo software may be able to if your rams compatible

heavy atlas
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how much fps y’all think i will run with this gpu on cod?

paper summit
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Cpu also matters

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So does resolution

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And graphic settings lol

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Fps doesn't mean jack unless you clarify what settings you're playing at

mossy venture
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And more

heavy atlas
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GIGABYTE Gaming OC GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card GV-N3070GAMING OC-8GD

heavy atlas
mossy venture
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What is your build

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And what is the price difference

heavy atlas
mossy venture
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6800 is better

heavy atlas
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wb the rx 6700?

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XFX Speedster QICK319 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Black Gaming Graphics Card with 12GB GDDR6 HDMI 3xDP, AMD RDNA 2 RX-67XTYPBDP

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that

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that

paper summit
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I have a 6700xt runs everything at 1440p

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I'd go 6800 tho

heavy atlas
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so the 6800 is better?

paper summit
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Yes

heavy atlas
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my mom said not to get the 6800 cus the reviews are bad tho

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she said get this 1

paper summit
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It has a 4 star rating lol

heavy atlas
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so stick with the 6800?

paper summit
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Yes

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Haha

heavy atlas
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ok ty

rich void
heavy atlas
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idk

heavy atlas
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so which 1 should i get?😭😭

rich void
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Personally I'd buy the sapphire as Asrock has done some pretty anti-consumer stuff, but it's possible I am just ignorant of stuff Sapphire has done

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Both should perform about the same, difference would be cooling and customer support

heavy atlas
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which 1 has better cooling?

rich void
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I haven't seen a head to head review šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

little osprey
little osprey
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Would this be overkill for a 13400F?

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Also are there any better/cheaper 32GB RAM kits that would come with RGB?

lyric thistle
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Isn't hyper212 one of the more basic cooler upgrades?

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I would keep the stock cooler on I think

potent portal
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Yeah there's $25 coolers that beat the H212, it's a REALLY old design

little osprey
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Ah okay, well I was looking at another one

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One sec

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@potent portal

potent portal
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AK400 is great

little osprey
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I'm just looking for a tower air cooler that's in black

potent portal
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AG400 is too

little osprey
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Only the AK400 comes in the blackout

fossil cedar
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oof the dark really on h212 levels of price there

little osprey
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This one is cheaper but comes with one less fan on the tower

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I dunno how much that effects it

potent portal
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It won't matter much on the 13400

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But I'd say the second fan is worth $4

lyric thistle
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Free fan

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Free meaning 4 dollars :)

little osprey
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Alright

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Hmmm, now for the RAM kit

potent portal
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As far as memory, the max you can do without changing to gear 2 and taking a heavy latency penalty on the locked 13th gen chips is 3466 because of the locked SA voltage

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So you can get a used 3200 14-18-18 kit and set it to 3466

little osprey
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Would 16GB just be fine?

potent portal
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32GB is still good to have these days

little osprey
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Oh okay

potent portal
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US right?

little osprey
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So something like this?

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Well, it's not RGB but the more I think about it, it doesn't really matter that much

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I would prefer if I could get a kit in black though

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What kind of options would I have for brand new for a decent price?

earnest olive
earnest olive
fossil cedar
earnest olive
fossil cedar
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oh yay its back up to its good price of 100$

earnest olive
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it is illegal for techies to be wrong

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you are now no longer techie

fossil cedar
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crappp

earnest olive
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leave your PC at the door

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you'll be receiving an alienware in the mail shortly

fossil cedar
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no

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nono

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nonoonon

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nonononoononn

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pls no

earnest olive
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but don't worry it's been upgraded

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the motherboard was upgraded to a b450m ds3h with usb riser cables for the front i/o and a dell psu adapter

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and the ram has been upgraded to 4x4gb 2666c16 corsair vengeance lpx (each stick has different ICs)

earnest olive
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and the cpu is a lovely launch week ryzen 7 5800x… but don’t worry it’ll stay nice and cool under dell’s patented alienware cryo cooling (120mm aio as exhaust with 0 intake fans)

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oh yeah also we chose the single 1tb hard drive option

little osprey
earnest olive
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isn’t it crazy that dell still lets you configure modern high end systems to boot off of a hard drive

fossil cedar
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yummy

neat mango
mossy venture
neat mango
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@mossy venture 3k i would be purchasing 120mm fans to make up some of the space. why would you recommend another case?

mossy venture
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the 13700k destroys the 12900k both in gaming and workstation loads

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@neat mango

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I also would not limit yourtself to one retailer

neat mango
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@mossy venture alright awesome let take a look. now you trust some of these brands im not a huge fan of the mobo i like to stick to msi

mossy venture
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model matters much more than brand

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brand is next to irrelevant in fact

neat mango
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@mossy venture yeah only on newegg at the moment to get a build before i look for prices

potent portal
mossy venture
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biostar is an exception

neat mango
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its an asrock on intel

mossy venture
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and asrock has some good mobos

neat mango
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trying to be alittle fancy so yeah alittle

potent portal
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Asrock is the only brand that follows the Intel spec when it comes to power limits and turbo. Every other brand boosts both out of the box. A lot of Asrock boards also can't handle the stock settings.

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Higher end asrock is good tho

neat mango
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thank you both of you

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now really that i7 is better than the i9?

mossy venture
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the 13600k, an i5 is

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let alone the 13700k

neat mango
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yeah i think i would go with the i7 13700k

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do you know why this is the case

mossy venture
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different generation

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core count doesn't equal performance

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higher core count is useful for some non gaming tasks

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but for gaming, beyond 8 cores is generally useless

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even 8 is pushing it for most games

stoic island
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When each core is faster, fewer cores, but faster cores, can perform better than more but slower cores

mossy venture
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pushing it as in 6 is more than enough and won't see much of a diff for most games, if the individual cores perform similar

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single core performance is more important than multi core performance for gaming

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and the 13600k i believe either matches or beats the 12900k in gaming

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and matches it in multi core performance too

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even compared to the 13900k, there is a maybe 2-3% difference between the 13600k and 13900k

neat mango
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where do you end up finding this info

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is there a chart on which are better?

mossy venture
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you're gonna want to look at single core/thread performance if you're gaming

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oh wait wrong ss

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13600k basically matches the 12900k, with the 13700k beating it

neat mango
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gotcha awesome alright thanks for all the info

mossy venture
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ofc

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any other questions about the list i threw together?

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also if you want it cheaper that's very doable

neat mango
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i really appreciate it. i prob dont need a 4090 but its not bad i may change that to get a little more rgb and looking nice

mossy venture
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one sec, ill change that up

neat mango
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its a very good reference though

mossy venture
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rgb fans, 6 of them

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though im not sure how many fan slots there are with that case, after the ones taken up by the aio

neat mango
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plus liquid cooler has to be 280mm/360mm on top

mossy venture
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tbh you don't even need an aio

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an ag620 would do the job just fine

neat mango
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sorry what is that?

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ag620

mossy venture
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a cooler

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one sec

neat mango
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alright sweet the ddr5 ram is the 6000 speed right?

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plus thanks for the website didnt know about pcpartpicker

mossy venture
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yeah, it's super cheap for a 6000mhz kit

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$110 is i think the lowest I've seen one

neat mango
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yeah i know its new so its alittle pricey

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but thank you this is def more what i want here

mossy venture
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$110 for a 32gb 6000mhz kit is amazing

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that's cheaper than you'll find most 3600c16 kits for

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(ddr4)

neat mango
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ah really damn alright. also this website you sent me does it go through all the prices does it show the lowest prices to order from?\

mossy venture
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yes it does

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it's great, very useful

neat mango
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yeah i can see that i usually manually look so this is awesome

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thank you for all the info. now just waiting for that paycheck baby

mossy venture
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happy to help, also as a heads up prices change daily

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so I would check back here right before you buy for any last minute changes

neat mango
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gotcha okay and awesome alright!

mossy venture
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feel free to dm me later on when you plan to if you'd like, just send the link to that build list and all the info and everything so I remember who you are lol

neat mango
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alright will do and lol true

zenith cargo
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yall what do I need to do when switching from nvidia to amd

stoic island
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use ddu

spring hedge
cyan ravine
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It is. I'd maybe change the case if anything but you might have preferred it so it's fine

left urchin
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God my questions are so dumb but do corsair water coolers have the liquid already in it😭

leaden mauve
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all AIOs already have coolant in them

left urchin
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Google came in clutch

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Thx lol

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I'm sweatin here im almost done with my first build

zenith cargo
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Wait

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Does the Asus Prime b550m-A AC mb support a 6900xt?

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@potent portal

potent portal
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Of course

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Motherboard doesn't matter for that

dusky hearth
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Where almost everything is in it

leaden mauve
left urchin
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So google is no help how do i reset my PC without logging in

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Like from bios or sum

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None of the F keys are booting me in it

dusky hearth
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You might need to hold del, or backspace, or enter, or whatever

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Which mobo you got

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Also why do you need to reset it

left urchin
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MSI Z590

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Bc i bought it from a dude an his acc is still on it

dusky hearth
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It's the delete key

left urchin
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Thx so when its booting just spam delete?

dusky hearth
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Idk if the bios has a disk format feature but yeah

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Holding it will be sufficient

left urchin
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Ah cool

zenith cargo
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@potent portal what do I need to do in order to switch from nvidia to amd. ik i need to install ddu but is that it?

potent portal
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Yep just run DDU and tell it to clean and shutdown. While it's shut down you swap the GPUs.

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Preferably in safe mode for DDU

zenith cargo
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ok

azure briar
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yall think my 2gb 960 can handle 2 1080p monitors

potent portal
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yes

azure briar
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okay whew

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the most intense game i play is probably postal 2 or something so as long as it can just run

gentle pollen
little osprey
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cheapest psu to get for 12100 or 12400 and 6600 type build?

cyan ravine
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Gx2 600W probably

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And that's like, barely passable imo

little osprey
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is evga BR about the same

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or bq

obsidian wigeon
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br sucks

little osprey
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why are psus so damn expensive

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damn

potent portal
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It's been an upward trend since the launch of ATX 3.0

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For some reason

little osprey
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500w non modular are like $70-80 for a good one

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these arent even good

little osprey
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cool thanks

potent portal
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C tier so it'll do nicely in that build

little osprey
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bruh a minimal 12100 and 6600 build still comes out to $590 before tax

potent portal
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At least it's not $1000 for the same spec like mid-shortage

obsidian wigeon
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used case time

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or heck better yet used ram

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and used mobo

potent portal
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Oh def, maybe not mobo I don't trust the pins personally

little osprey
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maybe the play is a new xbox

obsidian wigeon
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xbox kinda lame

little osprey
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yeah but all the kid wants to do is apex at 120 or 140 fps

obsidian wigeon
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not sure if apex is on xbox

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but tbh having pc better long term

little osprey
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yeah but he cant afford it šŸ’€

obsidian wigeon
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hm

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well used time

little osprey
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that or wait longer

potent portal
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Used 16GB RAM is like $35-40

obsidian wigeon
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nothing wrong with used stuff

little osprey
cyan ravine
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140 fps apex is probably realistic on 6600

obsidian wigeon
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ram and ssd should be new

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but other stuff can be used

cyan ravine
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Settings down most likely

little osprey
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here ill just send the list lol

obsidian wigeon
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not psu tho, but it depends on the psu too

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and the listing

little osprey
potent portal
little osprey
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dudes a freshman in high school with no debit/paypal so idk how he'd fare in the used market

cyan ravine
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That build looks fine

little osprey
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time to spawn in some money

cyan ravine
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There's no upgrade room for it

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But yeah it'll work

little osprey
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my logic with it is if the guy can barely afford this theres no upgrade path for him anytime soon

cyan ravine
little osprey
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ok cool

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thanks for the help guys

limber oyster
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Does anyone know if there's a version of this that's for the actual 3 pin argb header itself?

jagged ember
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Like a 90 degree 3pin rgb adapter?

olive cypress
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You wanna get rgb on your rgb connector? šŸ’€

paper summit
grim whale
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Guys I need help. I just built my new computer and something weird is happening. I turn on machine and it lights up for a split second then the only thing that stays lit up is the motherboard RGB and the RGB memory. I can power down my machine unplug the 6 pin sata that powers my ARGB fans and hit the power button and boom. Everything comes on. I’ve even tried to just plug in a few fans and they will come on for about 30 seconds and then stop. Could I have bad motherboard or Power Supply not enough? It’s 850w. I know this is very vague and short but I had to start some place. Any help would be great! Thank you to all that help me get my machine fully functional!

frail owl
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not an expert but it sounds like a short

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if the 6 pin sata is making it stop working

mossy venture
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It is not necessarily a short, there are many more likely things it could be

grim whale
# frail owl not an expert but it sounds like a short

That sounds very logical man. The case has a built in RGB board and I’ve added the Antec Fusion controller. I’ve tried both of them separately with same issues. I thought last night maybe the sata cable was crap.

mossy venture
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@grim whale

grim whale
mossy venture
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I would make sure ram is seated properly, possible take out 2 of the sticks if it's a 4 stick kit

frail owl
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or use the sata cable in a different port

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is what i would do

mossy venture
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There is no sata drive

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Even if there is, it isn't the boot drive

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So it is irrelevant

frail owl
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wait im stupid nvm

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misread

tight elbow
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Hello everyone. First time pc builder. Starting with my CPU. If my goal is to build a pc that will improve the graphics of my oculus quest 2 and to allow for other vr steam games, as well as pc games through steam, what would you recommend? My present pc will not work with steam, so anything will be an improvement. Using the pc builder, but overwhelmed with all of the options. How do you decide which CPU is right for the task when you're starting from scratch?

mossy venture
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Or just the cpu at the moment

left urchin
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Bruh who invented RGB wiring 😭

verbal plover
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me

left urchin
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So like my RGB wont talk to my iCUE or MSIs either so i was like maybe my wiring is wrong i go back there and i connect my wiring differently now instead of my fans being blue their white now

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LIKE WHAT DOES THAT MEANNN šŸ˜­šŸ’€

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And when my radiator fan is lit up the cooling block is off then when my radiator fan is off the block lights up like bruh

livid yacht
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i dont know what drivers im supposed to get or how to enable integrated graphics

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right now i went into settings and changed it to game mode

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my main gpu is still PEG as i want it

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but when i plug in my projector, no output shows up

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i dont know if i need drivers or if i need to enable something

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but my motherboard HDMI output wont work

tight elbow
mossy venture
livid yacht
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I have a ryzen 7 5700g with radeon graphics

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and a b550m pro vdh wifi

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My graphics card im using for my 2 monitors is a gigabyte gt 1030

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Let me try monitor

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nope

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it just puts the monitor to sleep

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yup

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where

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i dont see it

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ah

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there we go

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ok

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i put it in

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it just shows the sync master which is my vga monitor

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no other monitors pop up

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no the hdmi isnt displaying anything

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the hdmi is my main monitor and my vga is on the left

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i dont know what that is

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oh that

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no its vga

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my graphics card has 1 vga and 1 hdmi input

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so im looking for an hdmi to DP cable?

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yeah no i dont have any

dusty cedar
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anyone familiar with mystic light on the msi motherboards?

what is "weather" supposed to do or look like? because for me its a solid and steady red. all the time...

lyric thistle
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Lmao bruhhj I forgor this was Rommy

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šŸ’€šŸ’€

dusty cedar
lyric thistle
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Nicknames be confubing

dusty cedar
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side note, yes my camera lens glass needs to be cleaned. no i dont care.... ok maybe i care a little cause you cant see anything on pc discord. 🧐

leaden mauve
dusty cedar
vernal surge
livid yacht
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i enabled integrated graphics

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i set it to force and then gave it 64m

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and thats it

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am i supposed to do anything else?

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i havent seen any tutorials on my specific motherboard and they all just do the same thing

vernal surge
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nothing needs to be done as far as I'm aware

livid yacht
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well poop.

vernal surge
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are you sure the connected display/device was set to the right input?

livid yacht
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i put it in the hdmi port on my motherboard

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and i started it up but it didnt display anything

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and when i go into settings it doesnt detect another monitor

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then i tried it with my main monitor which is hdmi

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and it just goes to sleep with no detection

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also

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when i just checked device manager

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code 43 this device has stopped working

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which is amd radeon graphics

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its under display adapters

earnest olive
#

did you try installing radeon drivers

livid yacht
#

i installed amd software adrenalin

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i did and it says the same thing

earnest olive
#

you might have defective integrated graphics

#

try removing the graphics card and see if anything displays

livid yacht
#

i am not gonna do that without my brother as supervision

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OH MY GOD

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I hate bots

dusty cedar
#

bots dont like you using profanity either

livid yacht
#

i thought this was an adult server!!!!!!!

dusty cedar
lyric thistle
#

This is a company server

earnest olive
#

I mean... you don't really seem like an adult

dusty cedar
#

its weird how companies and/or people seem to think that children aren't out here in the real world dropping the f bomb every 5 seconds so they hide in imagination land and censor it on the internet to "protect" them.

earnest olive
#

shrug I don't make the rules

dusty cedar
#

i know. just sayin in general

vernal surge
leaden mauve
leaden mauve
#

not weird at all

dusty cedar
#

my daughter dropped the f bomb when she was 4. last time she said it in front of me though. i know she still says it. shes 7 now.

lyric thistle
#

Lmao even profanity factories like my girlfriend avoid that stuff when around kids

vernal surge
livid yacht
#

damn, well ill try that before i get the new monitor

earnest olive
#

code 43 usually indicates a failure to install drivers, not something you want to see on your gpu

#

usually either a hardware fault or a vbios fault

dusty cedar
#

why is there 2 mrmaniac's? thats sus. AmongClowns

earnest olive
#

but you're using integrated graphics so there is no vbios

livid yacht
#

cant i try setting my main graphics to the integrated?

earnest olive
#

I've only gotten code 43 on failed vbios flashes or on a 5700xt with dead memory

livid yacht
#

its on PEG right now

earnest olive
#

you can try it

livid yacht
#

alright

earnest olive
#

unlikely to fix code 43 but can try

#

I've actually never seen code 43 on an igpu

livid yacht
#

Ok so

#

It worked

#

Now my monitor is displaying

#

Its in my motherboarf

#

So it is infact working

earnest olive
#

maybe it's a bios issue

livid yacht
#

maybe

earnest olive
#

is it updated to latest bios

livid yacht
#

how can i check

earnest olive
#

type dxdiag into windows search and hit enter

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will display bios version somewhere on there

#

check against motherboard website

livid yacht
#

it just says DEFAULT SYSTEM BIOS

earnest olive
#

šŸ’€

#

okay just do a bios update anyways then

livid yacht
#

as if i know how

earnest olive
#

the motherboard website will have a guide on it

livid yacht
#

right now its version 1.0

earnest olive
#

might explain it

#

just follow the directions on mobo website

tight elbow
earnest olive
#

missed one very important question

#

country

livid yacht
#

anyway, thank you for the help

#

but i prefer blue mushrooms

earnest olive
#

alright you're banned

tight elbow
#

Sorry, U.S.A.

earnest olive
#

does your budget of 700-800 include or exclude monitor

tight elbow
#

exclude

earnest olive
#

any preference for storage capacity

tight elbow
#

was recommended that I get 1 tb+ of ssd

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no preference, otherwise

dusty cedar
#

i'm having a tough time understanding this one. you want to run vr on a budget of less than 1k? a good graphics card doing what you want for vr is going to cost your whole budget, wont it?. šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

earnest olive
#

it's more doable than you think

tight elbow
#

if my budget is off, it's because I lack the experience doing this. I don't need top of the line, just sufficient for my needs. I won't be doing anything other than gaming

earnest olive
#

$800 is 6650xt territory

tight elbow
#

if it's not possible, I'm open to shopping around for parts and/or buying refurbished

earnest olive
#

if you can increase your budget, I would recommend it, but if $800 is what you can afford you can still get a decent experience with it

#

it's just at that part of the curve where performance gains are still quite large per dollar invested

tight elbow
#

what is the minimum investment before you start to see diminishing returns, based on my needs?

earnest olive
#

probably around $1300 tbh if you're open to used graphics cards (around used 3080 range)

#

so about double the performance of an all new $750 6650xt pc

tight elbow
#

I can adapt my budget. wasn't sure what it would require. would like to do it right, but have no need for extras

earnest olive
#

here's an example

dusty cedar
#

the 3080 i juxst bought i got at a good deal considering the cost of all the others and it works great.

earnest olive
#

gonna be an ugly lad but it'll crank out frames for cheap

tight elbow
#

Thank you, I appreciate your time

earnest olive
#

fs

tight elbow
#

Would the parts list be the same with the 3080?

dusty cedar
#

3080 is expensive. its like 200 or more over your budget or right at the full amount of your budget, not including tax. depending which you get.

tight elbow
#

ok, I misunderstood you. I thought you meant that it would be around $1300 for a build using the 3080

dusty cedar
#

you can build a pc for cheap. the bulk of your expense is going to be the graphics card

tight elbow
#

does it make more sense to start with the gpu?

#

when building from scratch?

dusty cedar
mossy venture
#

might be able to re use some of it

tight elbow
#

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.40 GHz AMD Radeon HD 7500 8 GB RAM

mossy venture
#

ahh

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yeah...

#

probably not much to reuse

#

do you know the model of the power supply and case?

tight elbow
#

trying to locate it

dusty cedar
#

you wont find it in windows. you gotta open it up and look at it and the wattage of your power supply

mossy venture
#

well, wattage and model

#

it says it on the side of the psu

tight elbow
#

gotcha. this is a dinosaur. I'll check that tonight, but figured I would have to start from scratch with everything

mossy venture
#

you most likely will, but can't hurt to check

#

rather make sure than possibly get rid of a useful part

tight elbow
#

thank you for taking the time to help

mossy venture
#

anytime

dusty cedar
#

if you can reuse your power supply it'll save you a couple hundred

mossy venture
#

????

#

what

dusty cedar
#

what do you mean what?

mossy venture
#

a power supply is $100 for an A tier 750, $130 for an 850, 150 for a 1000

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not hundreds

dusty cedar
#

if he can reuse the power supply then he wont have to buy a new one.

mossy venture
dusty cedar
#

the fact thats in stock annoys me because it wasn't in stock when i was looking at them

#

i paid 130 for mine and thats before tax

mossy venture
#

I got my rmx 650 for $65 iirc

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and my gt 850 for $50

#

(and my bq 750 for $150, but I didn't know anything about pcs when I bought that and got lied to by a local pc shop)

leaden mauve
#

i got my rm850x for around 80 i think

limber oyster
#

Reservoir pump and fans arrived

little osprey
#

Is there anything I can cut back on or improve on?

#

Mostly looking for a good price to performance ratio

#

Would like to maintain a good look too

earnest olive
#

1300 is a very realistic price for a build with a used 3080

#

I recently did a build with a used 3090 for 1200

little osprey
#

Hmmmm

earnest olive
#

that wasn't addressed at you sorry

#

@dusty cedar @tight elbow

little osprey
#

Oh my bad

earnest olive
#

you should avoid ddr4-3600 with locked intel cpus

#

go for 3200

little osprey
#

Me?

earnest olive
#

yes

#

3600 is not guaranteed to run in gear 1 due to restrictions on system agent voltage for non-K cpus

little osprey
#

Well the kit I put in there I would only be saving $4 if I went down to 3200Mhz

earnest olive
#

and 3200 gear 1 is far superior to 3600 gear 2

little osprey
earnest olive
#

no such cpu exists

#

did you mean 12600KF?

little osprey
#

Yeah sorry

#

I'm playing War Thunder while talking to you

earnest olive
#

honestly decent option, it's pretty much the same price as the 13400f

little osprey
earnest olive
#

13400F is basically just a 12600KF rebrand without the K

#

it uses alder lake silicon

#

so you're not really getting an older generation chip

little osprey
earnest olive
#

you could go b660/z690 with no issue

little osprey
mossy venture
#

no

little osprey
#

Hmmmm

#

One sec

little osprey
mossy venture
#

also no

#

look for wifi, ax or ac in the name

#

of none of those are there it doesnt

little osprey
#

Oh, that helps

#

Are Z690 boards gonna be cheaper or B660M's?

mossy venture
#

depends on sales

south cliff
little osprey
#

This is $140, I spent $120 on my DS3H

mossy venture
#

meh

#

b760 ds3h ax is cheaper, im not sure how the vrms compare

little osprey
#

This was my initial plan for the 13400F

#

But I'm thinking this

#

@stoic island

little osprey
#

@mossy venture, are there any other boards that have the heatsink and have wifi that would be cheaper?

#

Actually, mr1111 mentioned this

ornate solstice
#

okay i have a task that i shall give to someone who wants to

i would like 3 separate build with different budgets
$900
$1200
$2000

little osprey
#

Gaming, steaming, editing?

ornate solstice
#

gaming

little osprey
#

All brand new parts?

ornate solstice
#

the 900 for gaming the other two gaming and streaming

#

brand new

little osprey
#

Hmmmm, someone might have to help you with that

#

I'm only working on my second build šŸ˜“

ornate solstice
#

you’re good man i’m doing it for a group of friends those were there budgets

#

they can go $100 over their budgets but would prefer not to

little osprey
hollow steeple
#

what is the best gpu the asus b450 m motherboard can support

earnest olive
#

either the rtx 4090 or the rtx 6000 ada depending on your definition of best

#

(motherboard is usually not a significant limiting factor in gpu choice)

strong raft
cyan ravine
livid yacht
cyan ravine
#

Oh okie

#

I was sleep'd

ornate condor
#

How's FSP psus ?

#

tier list shows it's A tier but why it is so unpopular hmm

lyric thistle
#

They tend to be good from what I hear

#

My Lenovo OEM PSU was FSP and it died af 5 years in tho so idk

ornate condor
regal shard
cyan ravine
#

Where da mobo last one

#

Add this to that last list ^^

mossy venture
#

Either works

gentle pollen
#

How hard would it be to transfer my current computer into a new case with a new cooler and fans?

#

Considering doing it for the funzies.

jagged ember
#

Cables.

#

That's the only big issue lol

#

Are you willing to refigure out a good way to route those cables?

gentle pollen
#

Mhmm, I never did a PC from scratch before so this would be interesting and I would get a hell of a show piece out of it so why not.

#

xD my current system is gonna like tiny inside the Fractal Torrent.

potent portal
#

Almost anything looks tiny inside the Torrent

#

A 4090 looks practically average sized

jagged ember
#

The torrent is positively massive

#

A real chonker

prime osprey
gentle pollen
potent portal
#

I had to mod my desk just to fit it under my desk

gentle pollen
#

Currently saving up for the Mobo then gonna get the CPU for my PC upgrade.

#

All goes well if I win the eSports tournament I am partaking in tomorrow I will have enough to pay for my PC upgrade.

potent portal
jagged ember
#

I feel a that's what she said joke somewhere

obsidian wigeon
#

lmao

prime osprey
obsidian wigeon
#

that's thickness of the gpu yes

#

3 inch is above average for gpus

#

a 3 inch long gpu however is small

#

tiny actually

prime osprey
#

nah im meaning for the heat pipes

potent portal
#

That would be a very thick and very ineffective heat pipe

obsidian wigeon
#

^

potent portal
#

A vapor chamber on the other hand, that would be about right

prime osprey
#

alr bro ty, twitter says it’s too small

potent portal
#

The empire state building is too small for Twitter, ignore them

regal shard
next prawn
#

Get Newegg to deliver my Uber eats 20 dollar gift card I ordered 4 hours ago

#

e gift card btw

#

not physical

#

it should be here

#

my friends should be enjoying their food right now

#

instead their not because new egg wont send it even though it takes 1-3 hours according to the website

#

and they still havent sent it šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

potent portal
#

No one here works for newegg

#

And even if they did business hours ended 6 hours ago

jagged ember
#

So no one can help you right now lol

tawny fiber
#

a friend of mine sent me this

#

when i asked why 4 dimms he said he wanted to fill all the mobo ram slots

jagged ember
#

I don't think that's the thing you should be asking about lol

potent portal
#

smhmyhead At least get the Corsair fake ones to fill in the gaps

lyric thistle
#

If they don't make Patriot Viper 3 dummy sticks (they don't) then I'm not buying

obsidian wigeon
#

bruh

#

the stupidity of some people

dusty cedar
#

anyone know how to fix windows screen saver? i have it set to 1 min and its not turning on. i've restarted my pc 5 times today and did a full reboot. gone through all settings, logged in and out of microsoft, checked drivers, ect. and still nothing.

potent portal
#

Just get a 12100

#

It only gets worse the more you think about it...

dusty cedar
#

no one knows?

potent portal
#

Well, everything short of a PC reset

dusty cedar
#

thats whats about to happen cause my msi center app isnt even working anymore

dusty cedar
#

system restore worked without having to go to a reset

dusty cedar
#

found the cause of it. it's the epic games launcher thats preventing a screen saver from being used

jagged ember
#

damn epic games

flint sapphire
dim forge
#

my 12100f arrives today

#

lets goo

proven salmon
#

Hay does anyone know we’re the 2 small cables of the corsair h100x rgb elite go

proven salmon
#

It doesn’t let me upload pictures

heady kayak
#

Upload to a 3rd party site

heady kayak
#

That’s a fan connector

#

you connect it to a fan header on your motherboard

proven salmon
#

Thanks

ashen oracle
#

Hello everyone, I am a new PC builder and I put together a parts list after doing some research. I was hoping someone could confirm that 1. All parts are compatible 2. If I'm missing anything that is needed. Thanks for shedding light I'll post the components next

obsidian wigeon
#

What's your budget for the whole pc?

#

Do you need peripherals too? I can help you make a list

ashen oracle
#

CPU: I5 13400f

Mobo: Asrock b760m pro rs

Ram: 2x 8 gb ddr4 3200
GXS CRD: 51Risc AMD Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 RX580 8G

Case: Thermaltake S100 Tempered Glass Black Edition Micro-ATX

PSU: CORSAIR CX-M CX650M 650w

Memory: Team Group MP33 M.2 2280 512GB PCIe 3.0 x4 with NVMe 1.3 d

#

Sorry for delay had a meeting

ashen oracle
obsidian wigeon
#

PC only?

ashen oracle
#

Everything I posted is 650 currently

#

Yes I have everything else

#

All peripherals

obsidian wigeon
#

Also I would say the parts list is pretty flawed. I'll put together something better for you in a bit

ashen oracle
#

Ok TY. @obsidian wigeon

#

I do mostly office work. Not really gaming but I want graphics card for multiple ports and less lag because of displays. Thank you for you input

obsidian wigeon
#

You can bump ssd down to 512 gigs variant to save money

ashen oracle
#

This looks good. This is better than what I had ? Also do I need to do something with the bios?

south cliff
#

My 2nd pc just started randomly doing vga cpu dram

#

And I tried taking out the cpu putting it back in ram

#

And the cpu cooler just turns off

earnest olive
#

lacks bios flashback, would be a gamble

obsidian wigeon
#

hm right

#

im too tired lol

#

it's 3am

earnest olive
stoic island
#

Although depending on office work it really might not matter

south cliff
#

Both ram sticks

earnest olive
#

ah I didn’t see it was for office work

#

I’d suggest this

#

drives 3 displays (2 displayport, 1 hdmi) without a graphics card

#

case is whatever really

#

@ashen oracle

stoic island
#

Could grab a gt710 or similar

earnest olive
#

can even get the 12100 to drive 4 displays with a different board

#

but may have to have some older connectors involved

#

here’s a board that’ll do 4 displays off of igpu but with some older connectors

little osprey
#

will the U12S be enough for a 7700x in a open air case

ashen oracle
# earnest olive I’d suggest this

Thanks this is good information. I'm a little overwhelmed though. So i wouldn't benefit from a newer processor i5 13400f? I don't mind the extra$ also, no GFX card. I thought that helps take stress off CPU? And that MOBO, does it have wifi? I kinda wanted the wifi. My original setup, what was off? Sorry for 101question I just wanna make sure I get it right

earnest olive
#

it does have wifi 6

#

modern i3s have gotten a lot more powerful

#

you won’t need better for office work

#

running many monitors off of igpu doesn’t cause any significant ā€œstressā€ to the cpu

#

if you don’t mind paying more for fun then go ahead and buy an i5, but the i3 will already be overkill for anything that can really be called just office work

#

you’d be better off investing in more storage, better cooler for quiet, or whatever

#

you only need a graphics card if you need more than 3-4 monitors

#

i5-13400f doesn't have integrated graphics, so that would force you to buy a graphics card that wouldn't really benefit you

#

you'd be looking at non-F cpus to have integrated graphics

#

buying a graphics card would really just inflate your power bill as they're a lot less power efficient compared to integrated graphics

#

also another point of failure, the rx 580 you wanted to buy is 7 years old

bold turret
ashen oracle
earnest olive
#

np, good luck

ashen oracle
#

@earnest olive one more thing, what else would you suggest to totally complete this build top to bottom or is that all there? Do I need fans? Is AIO cooler necessary?

#

Anything at all

earnest olive
#

no, get a cheap air cooler if you want, aio is overkill

ashen oracle
#

Ok I'm going to order this stuff right now

earnest olive
#

upgraded cooler is already optional, stock cooler is good enough

ashen oracle
#

I C

#

Ohh! You mentioned extra memory which one? How much?

#

I basically run zoom with anywhere from 10 to 15 internet pages up that I have to move through for the client to see along with a Google presentation. That's what I use it mainly for and some video editing.

stoic island
#

32gb should be enough to start, if you do a significant amount of video editing, you can upgrade the CPU in the list to a 12400

dim forge
#

hey guys, the copper thing on my 12100F has a little dark spot, like its stained

#

should I have any concern

paper summit
#

Send a pic

dim forge
#

1 sec

#

it's on the cooler

#

not the cpu itself

#

It’s tiny

#

Like it’s scratched

weary galleon
#

I wouldn't be too concerned. Try wiping it off (only the little dark bits) and maybe use your own thermal paste if you have it

#

I'm guessing it's leftover from whatever process they used to make the rest of the cooler black

dim forge
#

the cpu is good tho

#

no scratches or weird things

stoic island
#

Don't be too concerned

sinful prawn
#

Guys guys the parts came in

#

And they are soo pretty

#

Sooooooo pretty

#

I don’t have a gpu or psu that matches yet, but I will soon

south cliff
#

Can someone help my second pc goes to vga,cpu,dram and just keeps on doing it

#

Reseated cpu

#

and took out ram

#

And put it back in

#

Nothing works

#

But with no ram at all it just does the dram light

merry spindle
#

Looking for recommendations for a 1440p gaming monitor. 144hz or above. Budget around 350CAD, but I can go a bit over if you can convince me.

potent portal
potent portal
merry spindle
south cliff
south cliff
#

Nothing still

#

I’m goi g to see if I have one of those speaker things

hollow steeple
#

if you upgrade m.2s but the board only has 1 m.2 slot how do you transfer the data

azure briar
#

3rd drive i believe

heady kayak
#

use an NVMe SSD enclosure

dusty cedar
#

this msi center program is starting to annoy tf outta me

heady kayak
#

they’re relatively cheap on Amazon

azure briar
#

do those connect to sata or usb?

heady kayak
#

USB

runic spruce
#

Can someone make me like the best pc for 2k in pcpp?

#

Like high res and high settings gaming no rtx

potent portal
#

USA?

runic spruce
#

Just the pc and USA

potent portal
#

Need any extras like wifi?

potent portal
#

Could probably change a few things like case, RAM, and PSU but there's a rough idea

#

7900XTX is roughly equal to the 4080 for $200 less

runic spruce
#

Thanks

runic spruce
cyan ravine
#

Yea I'd go 750W then an LS520 if those are still $100

#

Good list tho

fossil cedar
#

I'd get the phanteks g360a unless they don't want rgb fans or something

dim forge
#

Guys I'm ordering my pc case, which one would you buy (all of em are xpg deviousfroge )

  1. Valor air (4 fans no rgb)
  2. Starker air (1 rgb fan)
  3. Invader (1 fan no rgb)
  4. Defender (3 fans no rgb)

price is around the same ($60-80)

#

I'd buy the 360a if it was available in my country but it isn't

cyan ravine
#

Starker air

#

I nearly bought one

dim forge
#

thanks

#

I was considering that one and the invader

#

Cougar had some options but...

cyan ravine
#

Cougar has a new decent case

#

Forgot the name

dim forge
#

I can buy mx430 air or white duoface

#

but the duoface only supports x2 140mm on front

cyan ravine
#

Archon is what I'm thinking of

#

If mx330-g air is like, 50 I'd consider it over starker air

#

Archon I'd probably take over starker tho

#

Mesh version obv

dim forge
#

That one I can buy too, but reviews said fans aren't pwm

#

the archon mesh

cyan ravine
#

Yeah they're sata

#

But you get a full set and a good case

#

So that's the trade-off

dim forge
#

hmm that's true

cyan ravine
#

Starker air is a bit nicer but shorter and not as great airflow

#

It's from like, the earlier airflow days where printed patterns and colour were still trendy

dim forge
#

well my setup won't heat much tho, it's an i3 and a 2060

cyan ravine
#

Even still, it's worth noting for something more useful down the line

dim forge
#

would it still be fine if I upgrade the cpu/gpu later?

#

like idk, a 13600k and a 3060ti for example

cyan ravine
#

I say there isn't such a thing as futureproofing, but a good box definitely goes a long way

#

Yeah for sure

dim forge
#

okayyy

#

I'll order it then

#

and hope they still have the tuf psu on stock

cyan ravine
#

Both are decent but imo I'd probably go archon

dim forge
#

otherwise i'll have to buy another one

cyan ravine
#

If you prefer the starker look then sure but that case is def short

#

Big GPUs won't fit

dim forge
dim forge
cyan ravine
#

Ye

#

It's in that size where like, 300mm gpus are about as big as it gets

#

Before you need to make weird compromises

#

Like slim fans or no fans in the front kekw

dim forge
#

huh

#

well, thanks for the help šŸ™‚

cyan ravine
#

Hmm guess this one is a bit longer than 220t

#

320 fits before weirdness

#

Biggest would be a 3090 strix or a 4090 suprim liquid in a starker air probably

#

Founders maybe

#

But founders have the flowthrough design pepehmmm

dim forge
#

I'll buy an exhaust fan tho

dim forge
#

the tuf is out of stock

fathom mesa
#

currently have a i5 9400f looking to upgrade what should i get on a 300$ budget

#

^looking to go amd

fossil cedar
#

You in the us?

fathom mesa
#

yea

#

will be paired with a 2060

#

i just want a better cpu because i mostly only play valorant

stoic island
#

Going current gen AMD is probably going to be impossible for 300$, since ddr5 only, what ram do you have now?

turbid skiff
#

Hey I'm really new to pc building and I'm installing a Deepcool ag620 argb. I'm a bit confused on how the wiring works so could someone walk me through that

stoic island
# turbid skiff Hey I'm really new to pc building and I'm installing a Deepcool ag620 argb. I'm ...

To start, you'll want to differentiate between 4 pin pwm and 3 pin argb.

For the 2x 4 pin pwm connectors from the 2 fans, there is a splitter from the box, connect each connector from the fan into the splitter, and the other end of the splitter into cpu_fan on your motherboard

For the 3 pin argb, it's daisychainned, so you plug the connector from one fan into the other fan, and from the other fan into the motherboard. The header goes by many names, a_rgb, d_rgb, you might need to consult your manual, the important thing is that the header has to be only 3 pins, 4 pin rgb is completely different and incompatible.

fossil cedar
turbid skiff
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I'll update you if I get everything plugged properly

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So I plug the daisy chained 3 pin thing into this?

hasty cove
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anyone know why for no reason my pc wants to run roblox at a max of 28 fps ;-;

stoic island
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Yes

turbid skiff
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Alright thanks you

proven salmon
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Hay anyone know we’re I can get a side glass panel for the Corsair 4000d airflow

stoic island
stoic island
dim forge
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I hate this, the shop that has the psu in stock, does not have the case I want in stock

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and the shop that has the case, does not have the psu!

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how bad is tthat xpg valor air?

stoic island
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Reminds me of 275r airflow, which is okay

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Why not buy one thing from each shop?

strong raft
hasty cove
little osprey
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is a viewsonic omni 1440p 144hz IPS panel monitor good for $130

little osprey
gentle pollen
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Your good.

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Just trying to help.

warm crescent
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Can one of y’all put together a build?

verbal plover
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Took like 3 weeks for them to send a singular fan, all the way from china. finally comes today and its faulty 😭 (99% sure its the fan, tried bunch of diff connectors and it always flickers with random rgb colors) Sadge

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Lmk if that looks like something that can be fixed

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When I set all the fans rgb to off, it goes off like the rest but it still flickers random colors

heavy atlas
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looks dope

gentle pollen
warm crescent
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Yea 1500 US

runic spruce
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I’m pretty sure the gpu and cpu aren’t the best balance for the budget

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But u can just change it and I didn’t put a case but I’d get an airflow one

runic spruce
frigid night
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ispy in build pics PepeLmao

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so like.. buy used.. if doesn't work or breaks.. return..get new one?

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noice

runic spruce
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Shouldn’t u just downgrade the cpu to a non k?

earnest olive
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13400/f isn't a meaningful bottleneck for a 6900xt

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so i would recommend it yeah

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did a similar-ish build with a 13400f + b660 + 3090 recently, was perfect

elfin flame
runic spruce
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It’s doe fine without much bottle neck so I think it’ll be fine

earnest olive
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that's probably a pretty significant bottleneck in some games

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depends on the game though

runic spruce
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It does in the games that aren’t really graphic

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But I usally turn on the graphics to max on all of my games

runic spruce
earnest olive
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13400f is a much stronger gaming cpu than 10700K so won't be an issue