building-and-recc-chat

[gilded dragon]

Also does a 4080 card require a mid tower? Or full tower?

[regal shard]

At least a mid tower but not all mid towers will fit it

[gilded dragon]

I’m interested in white cases but I haven’t seen anything new for the last 2 years

[regal shard]

So make sure to still check the measurements

[gilded dragon]

I currently have a mid tower case but i know for a fact the 4080 wont fit

What was that

[regal shard]

Well idk about new but there’s a lot of good 2022 cases

By lion li Cosair, nzxt just look you’ll find lost of white cases

[verbal plover]

Don't wanna drive 3 hours and back

[regal shard]

Aww damn that sucks

[verbal plover]

Plus there's no guarantee they would have everything I wanted

[gilded dragon]

The whole world had the lian li dynamic case

Im just sick of seeing it

[regal shard]

How long is your case width ?

[verbal plover]

bro really said "best buy" lol

[gilded dragon]

The one with front and side glass panel

[verbal plover]

as if

[gilded dragon]

Oh im not sure

[regal shard]

lol idk what else America has

[verbal plover]

nothing

best buy and microcenter

pretty much it

[gilded dragon]

Also i hate cases where u can see front panel fans

[verbal plover]

but microcenters are scattered in weird ass places

[gilded dragon]

Im trying to get to level 3 to share s pic lol

Ooooo

[verbal plover]

and best buys never really have anything

[gilded dragon]

What was that

Why do i keep seeing msgs and then they disappear

[verbal plover]

why does this server have language censors 💀

[gilded dragon]

I thought I’m imagining

[coarse coral]

because we have minors on server.

[regal shard]

Honestly I’d just get a full tower just to be safe for future builds @gilded dragon

[gilded dragon]

I think i will do that too

Hey im greern

Green

[regal shard]

What don’t they have besides cpu and gpus

[obsidian wigeon]

good case is for example g360a

pretty decent price, has lots of space to work in

fits any gpus

[regal shard]

Yeah full towers are a lot easy to build in

The 4000D was a pain in the ass

[gilded dragon]

Btw does the strimer plus V2 work with 4080?

[regal shard]

What is that

Oh that cable thing

Im not sure tbh but it probably does

You should ask someone with more experience

[verbal plover]

Idk when I go i pretty much just see wack pre-builts and laptops. they don't really have separate components on display anywhere, atleast the ones I've been to

[regal shard]

You might need to ask them to check in the back

[obsidian wigeon]

there's always amazon and everything

[regal shard]

I see them online but I’ve never tried in person

[obsidian wigeon]

take a look into pcpartpicker and you'll see everything available on offer

[regal shard]

Yeah he been using that but I was just saying If he wanted it to be fast he should pick it up

But it’s too far for him

[obsidian wigeon]

fair enough

[verbal plover]

id probably crash my car driving with 4k worth of pc parts for 3 hours from the nerves 💀

[regal shard]

Yeah that’s crazy

especially with all this snow outside

[verbal plover]

Can't relate with snow, but it IS windy af

[dusty cedar]

Hyte has the y60. Looks like a fish tank. They sell out super fast though. I got the all white inside and out version coming. I was only able to find it on Amazon since it's sold out everywhere else at the time I bought it.

[dusty cedar]

The only 1 best buy in my area that even sells pcs is selling some brand I've never heard of in my life with a rtx 3060 for near 4k after taxes.

[gilded dragon]

I saw it but as you said, it’s like a fish tank😭😭😭

Can’t buy the case I been bullying now can I🤣

[hot hull]

my friend is looking to get an external ssd for their macbook is this good? https://a.co/d/bjhaP9E

[dusty cedar]

Yeah. I think it looked pretty cool and is more interesting to look at compared to everything else on the market right now.

After looking at this picture again it's clear I'm going to have to replace that fan with a white one. 🤦‍♂️

[verbal plover]

They do be tweaking

[dusty cedar]

lol. thats pretty funny. maybe i should get some invisible line and hang some fake fish around from the top of the case somewhere

[obsidian wigeon]

oh god

once the water gets dirty

pc ded

[gentle pollen]

what about the Thermaltake AH?

[dusty cedar]

I'm real excited to get the rest of my parts so I can build this.

[verbal plover]

We are in the same situation

Except I didnt spend $100 on windows 💀

[dusty cedar]

thats wild. looks like something straight out of starwars

yeah i guess not everyone wants official stuff and thats cool. i would prefer to have it. especially if somethin happens and i need to wipe my drive or i need to replace that 980 i can just plug the usb into my pc and get a fresh instal

[gentle pollen]

Was gonna get it before I got the torrent. Didn't get it due to the fact that I have a cat.

[dusty cedar]

valid points but i dont just buy or have spare usb cards laying around. i had a pack of 3 at one poiint in time and i'm now down to just 1

[dusty cedar]

thermaltakes website says they modeled it after a helicopter. lol that really looks like a star wars space ship

[obsidian wigeon]

methods i can't say here has license that's permanently tied to board

so doing countless installs would keep it

[dusty cedar]

i built a pc from a mix of different towers that people were throwin away several years ago. probably 10 years ago now or more. i had a uh, whats it called, it thinks its official but it isn't it just bypasses the check. i had a problem and could never get help.

[lyric thistle]

I can't find my USB drives 😭

I kept them all together somewhere

Now to figure out where

[dusty cedar]

im just gonna tape it somewhere inside the case so i dont lose it after its installed

or so one of my kids dont take it and run off with it

i have 3 and my wife wants another

probably when they get older. the oldest is 7 and shes not that bad. the others are 2 and 4

kinda hard to have fun when theyre all fighting for attention

or have the attention span of a fly

i actually want that case now. but it wouldnt work on my shelf where i'm going to put it at

mine is gonna sit right where im keeping the parts at. so it fits perfectly.

i came down off the i9 that i wanted to get and would better suit my needs and put some of that savings into this y60 case instead since she wasnt thrilled with the idea of me dropping 3k into a computer.

[verbal plover]

💀

[dusty cedar]

if i cant have the cpu i need im getting the case i want. fair is fair. 😤

i was going to get the one dragon got

i still will eventually. just not right now.

[verbal plover]

Soon ™️

[coarse coral]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-anime-huh-what-gif-22475417

BAN ME

OK SRY

ITS JUST A J

D:

@little warren mod abuse mod abuse.

[leaden mauve]

[coarse coral]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-reaction-headsmack-ugh-frustrated-gif-5015289

you don't have perms to make me mod from bot huh

😦

https://tenor.com/view/stare-cat-confused-confused-look-serious-gif-16884211

[flint sapphire]

Hey guys try to keep #building-and-recc-chat filled with build related content k thx

[prime osprey]

bro

💀

[lyric thistle]

Theo demoted by Rommy and now Darvan performing role of moderator

Entertaining happenstance

[flint sapphire]

[coarse coral]

[lyric thistle]

[hallow glen]

Theo noo🥖

[cerulean snow]

anyone have good pc for $1000 that can play hl alyx and boneworks?

[mossy venture]

custom built or pre built

and just the tower, or including anything else

[cerulean snow]

dosen't matter

[mossy venture]

do you care about looks?

and do you need wifi, or are you using ethernet?

[cerulean snow]

not really

wifi

[mossy venture]

kk

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bZqpTn

great for 1440p, if you're just running 1080p and want to save some money could drop the gpu to 6700xt/6750xt

could likely find a 6800xt/3080 for that price used, if you're fine with buying used

[cerulean snow]

has long has it can run this games i said than its fine.

[mossy venture]

I'd go for a bit higher wattage of a psu for a 3080 though, just in case, this one would do good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6JFbt6/corsair-rm750e-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020248-na

def will run those, and much more

[cerulean snow]

ok thanks

[leaden mauve]

@cerulean snow

[cerulean snow]

do i need to buy operating system?

[mossy venture]

no, can use windows unnactivated

or if you have a windows device windows 7 or newer, can just transfer the license

[cerulean snow]

ok

thanks

[south cliff]

My new pc I just built is getting power but no display and the dram flashes for like 2 sec and turns off my motherboard is z97 i plus

I switched the ram

[little osprey]

should i get 32gb or a 2tb hdd

32gb is slightly more expensive at like 100 something euro but the hdd is 75

upgrading from 16gb kit, 500gb hdd

[mossy venture]

do you have an ssd?

[little osprey]

yea 120gb boot

[mossy venture]

are you running out of storage?

[little osprey]

no

[mossy venture]

also what is your current build

[little osprey]

uh

[mossy venture]

oh third question, does your mobo have 2 ram slots or 4?

[little osprey]

2

[mossy venture]

ah ok

F

[little osprey]

damn

[mossy venture]

what gpu and cpu

[little osprey]

ryzen 3 1200 AF

rx 570 8gb

planning to get a 1070 soon tho

[mossy venture]

I would upgrade the cpu before anything else

[little osprey]

nah heavy gpu bottleneck

cpu is at like 50% while gpu pegged at 100%

in like the games i tried\

[mossy venture]

what are you using to monitor usage

[little osprey]

rivatuner

or afterburner idk what u call it

[mossy venture]

hm

I'd go for gpu then cpu ig, storage when you run out of space

[little osprey]

oh

ram doesnt need upgrade?

[mossy venture]

not really

[little osprey]

k

[mossy venture]

16gb is fine for gaming atm

[little osprey]

im kinda concerned for the drive tho

[mossy venture]

if it's dying, then replace it

[little osprey]

its like 10 years old

[mossy venture]

what country are you in?

[little osprey]

serbia

[mossy venture]

100 euro is expensive for a 2tb hdd

[little osprey]

its 75

not 100

[mossy venture]

ah

still a bit pricey but better

[little osprey]

yea

[mossy venture]

check for 1tb/4tb pricing

[little osprey]

parents force me to use a kinda overpriced site

[mossy venture]

and 1tb ssd pricing

[little osprey]

cheapest one is same as 2tb

already checked

[mossy venture]

alr

[little osprey]

some silicon power a55 thing

[mossy venture]

Ig hdd though, 10 years is definitely longer than the average hdds lifespan

[little osprey]

theres some 100 euro 4tb barracuda

i dont trust it tho

cuz its segate

[mossy venture]

def cpu when you can though, if you have a b450 you can go to a 5600

seagate is great, wdym

[little osprey]

i heard segate dies alot

[mossy venture]

one of the best manufacturers for hdds

[little osprey]

compared to wd

[mossy venture]

I'd say only better one is WD, but they're both great

[little osprey]

like every time i heard about an hdd dying it was a segate

i wanna have this for like 10 years+

[mossy venture]

hdds do not normally last 10 years

I would get a 1tb ssd over a 2tb hdd if you want it to last that long

[little osprey]

isnt qlc bad

im 100% sure the ace a55 is dramless qlc

[mossy venture]

dramless only matters if you're doing things other than gaming

[little osprey]

oh

people told me to avoid it like the spawn of satan

[mossy venture]

it affects sequential speeds, which don't matter for gaming

[little osprey]

yea

i think msot of them just said it was a problem for downloading games

[mossy venture]

you'll still get much higher speeds than an hdd

[little osprey]

i have like 10 mb/s internet tho lmao

[mossy venture]

yeah won't matter fs

[little osprey]

yea

[south cliff]

Nvm I got it to work I think one of the ram slots is broken

I’m going to install the aio

Hopefully it goes good

[cerulean snow]

is there one for intel?

[mossy venture]

used 3080

oh wait

you said intel not nvidia

one second

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8W3xs

oh wait

this ram instead https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

[cerulean snow]

ok

[late fjord]

How are the temps on these sticks? Debated on grabbing a pair for my mini itx build

[south cliff]

@potent portal the i7 4770 never got above 67 in cinibench r23 and the 1660 ti only reached 71 on furmark and I only have on intake and 1 outake

I’m getting a fan hub tomorrow

[potent portal]

You only need to worry about that when the sticks are running above 1.5v, which those are not going to do

[dire locust]

@austere condor pinging silently to not disturb but DANG is that system hot

what was the final cost?

[austere condor]

$3425

basically what happens when you take a nice modern higher end gaming PC, and spend an extra $1000 on making it look pretty

[dire locust]

Dang, that’s a lot

Love the way it looks, you can almost never go wrong with an all white pc build

[potent portal]

It looks good until it's a few years old, then it starts to yellow. I like to keep mine for many years so it's not for me, but they do look nice.

[upper condor]

For wendigoon as well?!

Teach me how to do what you do

[regal shard]

Yeah next time I build I pc I’m gonna care about any rgbs

I’m going all noctua for straight performance

[tawny fiber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jxyKjZ

ok soo for someone with a budget of 3k this should do nicely ig

they initially were planning to do this

[little osprey]

What’s the best motherboard for the i9 13th 13900k

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7pd9Mb this is quite a bit better

[cyan ravine]

What are you using the pc for?

[little osprey]

Gaming

[cyan ravine]

Wait for 7800x3d

Or go 13600k

[little osprey]

When will it come out

[cyan ravine]

7800x3d? In a month

13600K games within like 2% of a 13900k for half the price

[little osprey]

Is it better?

[cyan ravine]

I mean for a couple % loss for half the price? Yes. Hell yes

Cooling is cheaper too and the mobo doesn't need to be as overkill

7800x3d will be even easier to manage that provided you were fine with ddr5

But 13600k is a good 150 cheaper

[little osprey]

I mean I have never built a computer before

Idk know like anything

[cyan ravine]

All good man, what's your budget

Need wifi, need a monitor?

[little osprey]

I have monitor and budget is like 4.5k usd

[cyan ravine]

Which monitor is it

[little osprey]

Samsung odyssey I think g3

[cyan ravine]

1080p?

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah it looks like 1080p im guessing

looked into some sites

[little osprey]

How do I check

[cyan ravine]

I mean back of the monitor probably says the name lol

[tawny fiber]

It's a nice 1080p monitor it seems

[obsidian wigeon]

all g3 is 1080p

[cyan ravine]

Worth checking, if it's a G5 then we'd work to that monitor

If G3 it'll be a secondary

[little osprey]

I mean I can send you a photo of what I got going rn idk how it could be a secondary with the space I got

[cyan ravine]

Hm not a lot of space? How much of a monitor do you think you could fit on the desk

If you can fit a 32 inch then we could just upgrade altogether

[obsidian wigeon]

just use the g3 and slap 4090 against 1080p

cpu bottleneck go brr

[little osprey]

Oh images not allowed in this channel

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah you're not leveled up enough yet

[cyan ravine]

They're allowed, you just don't have the perms yet

It's alr

[little osprey]

Can I dm u it

[cyan ravine]

Sure

[dusty cedar]

just type some more until your name turns green

[cyan ravine]

Ok it's g3

[dusty cedar]

i was lookin over graphics cards again and honestly wtf. is there any reason to go with a 3080ti card when you can just spend 200 less and get a 4080?

[potent portal]

May according to AMD

[potent portal]

Nope that's just how the market is right now. New 30 series are still oddly priced for various reasons, go for either used 3090 or a new 4080.

[little osprey]

What’s the difference between the brands of 4090

[dusty cedar]

even a 3090 is to much. i'd still get a 4090 for as much as the 30 cost

[cyan ravine]

I would only do 4090 if you can fit a 32 inch screen or bigger on your desk

32 minimum, 42"+ preferred

[little osprey]

Why is 42 inch preferred

[cyan ravine]

Cos you'll pay for 4K but it won't look any better than 1440p below 32"

So it's wasted investment

[little osprey]

My desk is 47 inches

I think

[cyan ravine]

Ppi gets so dense that our eyes have a really hard time picking up on the increased detail so they'll look basically the same

So you don't mind moving the laptop?

[little osprey]

Yea and that’s not gonna be used for gaming after getting computer

[cyan ravine]

Alr

[little osprey]

But if the 42 inch monitor takes up like the whole desk what about the g3

[cyan ravine]

Won't stay

If you wanna keep it for like, discord and stuff I can pick a 32 inch that's easy

[little osprey]

I would prefer that

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xWGP4s

You can plug the G3 into the motherboard then the m32u into the 4090

[little osprey]

But change the 13600k for the 7800x3d when it comes out?

[cyan ravine]

Nah, commit to one or the other

[little osprey]

Is there any cooler that’s like the same but no rgb or can you disable the rgb on it

[cyan ravine]

You can turn the rgb off. In fact going no rgb is probably cheaper one sec

Also I'm adding ddr5 as it's gonna be only $20 more for your first pc experience

Did you want no rgb on the case too?

[potent portal]

DDR5 is better on the 13600k anyway

[little osprey]

I mean if you can turn off the rgb it doesn’t matter

[cyan ravine]

It saves money by picking a different case

Without it lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7vKX6r

[little osprey]

Is 2tb enough for gaming?

[cyan ravine]

Yeah

You can add more storage later if you find it's running out

And not enough

2TB is a lot tho

[little osprey]

Idk some games are crazy big

I think I will wait for 7800x3d

Ty for help

[dusty cedar]

i saved 100 bucks by not getting rgb on my ram lol

[cyan ravine]

All good. I mean on a system like this the difference will be only a couple fps

Here's a link to secondary game storage
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VxfFf7/silicon-power-a60-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp002tbp34a60m28

Doesn't need to be super fast

[little osprey]

Is any thermal paste good?

[cyan ravine]

The cooler comes with its own

It's already applied so you just need to slap the cooler on

Well, should be

[dusty cedar]

that reminds me maybe i should open my aio and check to see if i need to order some

[potent portal]

How old is the AIO

Most paste is good for a few years, super cheap stuff maybe 6 months but you'll be able to tell right away that was bad quality

[dusty cedar]

it just got here in the mail today. i never opened the box. idk if it has paste already applied

[obsidian wigeon]

if it's not applied there's usually a tube given in box

[dusty cedar]

i just looked at it. it has it on there.

[analog pulsar]

just ban them all problems solved

[distant musk]

https://qa.pcpartpicker.com/list/PT29Mb

Anything I should change

[paper summit]

Because it's neweggs official server?

Wouldn't look great would it

[lyric thistle]

No middle English please

[verbal plover]

My brother that was like 5 weeks ago leave the past in the past!

[paper summit]

Lol

[distant musk]

.

[south cliff]

Got this for 10 dollars it’s like a fx 8370 or something like that 12 gb of ram and the motherboard

And I’m going to get a pc that has a Ryzen 7 3700 pro 16 gb of ram it has a bad gpu a 1tb hdd case psu and fans for 150

And just gonna get like a 1080

Slap it in there and it should be worth a very good bit

And I finished the i7 4770 build with the 1660’ti and 16 gb of ram

[leaden mauve]

thats a great deal

[south cliff]

Yeah I’m going to build a budget pc with it again

[leaden raft]

Aio things on the bottom like this ok?

But it’s not an issue as opposed to having the tubes be at the top of the radiator?

Or doesn’t matter?

[strong raft]

tubes down is better, even if "slightly".

[strong raft]

That psu is so funny though

[paper summit]

My punp Is mounted in the 6 o clock position with the rad at the top

[south cliff]

Hey I plugged in this new pc I just got and when I did. Little spark from the back but the pc turned on but now it doesn’t turn on is it the power supply

[south cliff]

Nvm I just think it wasn’t in all of the way

[verbal plover]

Sparks?

[south cliff]

When I did the psu test worth the paper clip it worked

[south cliff]

I’m going to try my other psu

It’s still not turning on either the other pc

I think the motherboard might be bricked

[tardy pecan]

I can boot into bios but windows freezes every time. Before i swapped mobo & ram it would give me a MACHINE_CHECK_EXCEPTION

helpppp

[south cliff]

it could possibly be ssd like you said

but try and clear cmos

[tardy pecan]

How could it be the SSD?

[south cliff]

maybe just a bad ssd

[tardy pecan]

Both ssds show up in bios. One is a crucial P5 plus and the other is a samsung 970 evo plus. I used to have a Silicon Power A80 but that ssd died so the 970 replaced it

[south cliff]

do you have another pc you could try it on

[earnest olive]

any oc or undervolt?

machine_check_exception is usually a cpu core stability issue

[tardy pecan]

Stock bios

I had this issue with a different motherboard made by asrock so assuming the issue was of the mobo I bought an MSI one.

Same issue occurring again with the new one

[earnest olive]

could be a faulty or degraded cpu, try applying +50mv core voltage in bios and then try to boot again

not super likely to be the fix but worth a shot for troubleshooting

[tardy pecan]

It’s just strange that it’s only partially working

[earnest olive]

try it

[tardy pecan]

I gotta get to bed but tomorrow morning I will

need my 8 hrs of sleep >:)

[earnest olive]

gl

gn

[fleet heron]

yall my screen turns black when i tap out my game its only for like leage and cod and idk why

[regal shard]

Yeah that must be a cpu problem

Because even the bios is new, so its not like the mobo could be the issue

the cpu cooler is connected obviously right @tardy pecan

[tardy pecan]

yes it’s connected according to noctuas instructions

[regal shard]

So are you trying to install windows off the usb, or do you already have it installed, but with it freezing every time u try to launch it?

[tardy pecan]

USB. I cleared all the data off the SSDs as part of troubleshooting

woah i have a role now

im so cool

[languid nimbus]

🆒

[vague oracle]

To cool for school?

[tardy pecan]

graduated highschool last year so evidently so

[regal shard]

Maybe the usb is iffy

I’m not sure what the cause is tbh

It’s either storage or your cpu

Be it usb or ssd

[errant laurel]

Is an i5 still relevant I’ve always had an i7 just curious if they are good or not in current year

[stoic island]

They have been relevant, almost always a better value buy for most people.

[obsidian wigeon]

It's merely just a name

Different generations are different, but i5 has mostly been good value for most anyway

[errant laurel]

I’d assume it wouldn’t outperform an i7?

[strong raft]

Sometimes 13600k does in some games

[obsidian wigeon]

It wouldn't, but in gaming it's only a few percent difference

Comparing 13600k to 13700k of course

13400 is slower due to the fact that it's got less cores, but in gaming it also doesn't make too meaningful of a difference

[cyan ravine]

they're basically the same, i9 as well

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[cyan ravine]

it's only when you go to ridiculous lengths does the i9 and i7 start to show a bit of parity

like direct die, 1dpc board etc etc

13400 isn't even true 13th gen

it's 12th gen with more cores

[obsidian wigeon]

mhm

It's just 12600k rebranded

[cyan ravine]

think of it this way, an i7 12700k is in every way slower than an i5 13600k

every single way

[obsidian wigeon]

Within different generations, the chip of higher tier but older generation in naming is often slower

[cyan ravine]

(there is avx512 but that opportunity is long passed)

[obsidian wigeon]

12600k slaps 10900k to the ground for example

[cyan ravine]

Well I mean I don't blame the way of thinking

i5 i7 i9 is just marketing

speaks nothing to the actual performance, year or architecture

[obsidian wigeon]

And that marketing does so well in making people pay up lmao

[cyan ravine]

yup

[cyan ravine]

i5 12600k vs 10900k yup

[obsidian wigeon]

"oh i saw this i9 10900k for 300 bucks and i got it instead of this 12th gen i5 something"

[cyan ravine]

@errant laurel my favourite buy rn is the 12600K

It goes really cheap, you get an AV1 supported iGPU in it, and you can run some very cheap boards with it

It'll run almost any gpu no probs

save 4080/90

[obsidian wigeon]

talking about boards, i really dig the looks of that colorful b760m cvn board

it's ddr5 so kinda sadge

white pcb is not common

[cyan ravine]

ddr5 is officially irrelevant to me again after learning about that $90 B die deal for 32gb

tuned B die is still at parity with high end ddr5

[obsidian wigeon]

looks decent vrm wise from my naked eyes

[cyan ravine]

that looks so nice

white pcb

[obsidian wigeon]

188 bucks tho

white tax

but it has flashback, not like it's gonna matter anyway

[cyan ravine]

it has flashback?

weirdge

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[cyan ravine]

maybe repurposed board

[obsidian wigeon]

it looks exactly the same as z690 version

i guess it's that board repurposed

just slightly diff ssd heatsinks

[upper condor]

i peruse ebay every once in a while for gpus, and i found a 4070 ti for $500 buy it now

brand new as well....

too good to be true

and a 4090 for 400 😭

man ebay and craigslist are so tempting

[cyan ravine]

those are easy scams for sure

the 4070ti might be some mad quick sale but I'd be sus as hell

[upper condor]

nah theyre all month old accounts with it up as "buy it now" instead of bidding

• only have pictures from online, no actual images

[fossil cedar]

Mega sus

Look for 6800xt + /3080 + and you might find something legit

Also try r/hardwareswap if trying to find a deal

[verbal plover]

gpu coming tomorrow :D

and mobo/case :D

might have to wait another day for the AIO though

[errant laurel]

Anyone have a clx prebuilt?

[upper condor]

current one has issue that seems unfixable without undervolt/underclock

just gonna get a new one when i see a good deal and maybe sell it for a nice discount mentioning the issue it has

[fossil cedar]

What's the issue again? I think i was helping before?

Also could still be in warranty so you could just RMA it

[upper condor]

fans speed up to max speed, display turns off and have to restart PC

i did a clean install of windows and its MUCH less frequent

gigabyte rgb software seemed to be finicky

[dusty cedar]

lol what?

[upper condor]

but it still happens randomly after like 2 hours of playing games

[cyan ravine]

did you really not understand me trying to tell you this for like, 3 hours

lol

[dusty cedar]

how is it marketing when there's very clearly different performances you can get from each of them?

[cyan ravine]

let me ask you this

if I told you that an i5 12600K, was faster than an i9, 10900K, in every single way, what would you think?

What if I said to you that an i5 13600K is faster than an i9 12900K in almost everything?

let's go down the rabbit hole a little deeper

i7 11700K? as fast as an i9 11900K. they're the same thing

i7-1065G7? slower than any i5-10400H

it's marketing, even intel themselves don't make out i5 i7 or i9 to truly mean anything

if i7 means high end why is an i5 at the mid range faster?

[dusty cedar]

so youre comparing a raptorlake chip to an alder lake chip to make a point?

[cyan ravine]

there's no real meaning behind it

I'm also comparing two 10th gen chips to make the same point

[dusty cedar]

why not compare a raptor lake chip against a raptor lake chip between i5 - i9

[cyan ravine]

well I already told you how that works

in gaming the 13600K and 13900K game the same

perf is almost identical

their marketing "Worlds fastest gaming processor - 13900K" means absolutely nothing when the 13600K does the exact same experience for half the price

so here's another curveball

what if I told you there was a raptor lake i9 that's slower than a raptor lake i7

hell it's probably barely faster than some raptor lake i5's

and that's not even for gaming

in comes the core i9 13900T

worse than an i7 13700K

and nothing close in gaming to any raptor lake K or non-K chips

[dusty cedar]

idk. what if. because it doesn't look like just marketing to me. even if one is faster than another, it looks like you're paying for core count and speed. especially when you open up all 3 and compare them side to side.

[cyan ravine]

it's just a label, a label that allows them to market what they want you to think is high end or not

[cyan ravine]

no you're not

the 13900T has the same core and thread count as a 13900k

but it's slower than a 13700k

it's a label for them to market it how they want you to see it

[dusty cedar]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-13900k-core-i9-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118412

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-13900ks-core-i9-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118446?quicklink=true

lets use this as a pricing example. both i9 raptorlake. 1 is 200 dollars more expensive. whats the difference thats being paid for if you were new to this whole thing. whats it look like you're paying for if you were in the markert for an i9

[cyan ravine]

they're the same chip

[stoic island]

You're paying for a bit of binning

[cyan ravine]

one is just "binned" so you can overclock it a little better, if you knew what you were doing

they're both literally 13900k

and you can buy a 13900K that clocks like a KS

welcome to silicon lottery

ask me anything, I own both

[dusty cedar]

out of box perfomance. you need to understand the greater majority of people in the world don't overclock

[cyan ravine]

then you don't buy a KS

plain and simple

[stoic island]

Let's look at 13600k, 13700k, and 13900k all together, for gaming performance, 13700k is within 1% of 13900k on average, and 13600k is within 1% of 13700k on average

[cyan ravine]

a K will do KS stock clocks with 5 minutes of tuning in the bios

[stoic island]

And the prices are NOT within 1% of each other

[cyan ravine]

this is exactly what I mean by marketing

[stoic island]

For gaming, it's marketing to sell more expensive chips that do the same thing

[cyan ravine]

you're paying for the same chip but the layman will take it as "better" when all 13th gen K chips game within a couple percent of each other

it's literally social engineering

this is exactly what I and the rest of us were trying to drill home for you when you asked for build help mate

I'm not prattling off for any moral high ground it's just the reality of the situation

[stoic island]

And tbh the only reason 13900k and 13700k are slightly better than 13600k in games is because Intel gave them slightly higher boost clocks

They'll probably perform the same in games if you ran them all at the same clocks

[cyan ravine]

and that's really it yeah, even the two extra p cores do barely anything

[stoic island]

(5.1ghz on 13600k, 5.4ghz on 13700k, 5.8ghz on 13900k)

[cyan ravine]

but they'll all do 5.6, 5.7, 5.8 or nearabouts

with some TLC

much like how a 5600X or 7600X games almost the same as a 5950X or 7950X, sometimes even better

the best gaming chip on Ryzen's side is not the highest end ryzen 9

it's the 8 core ryzen 7's

but 9 is bigger so bigger must be better right? wrong

[stoic island]

Sometimes 5800x3d better xD

[cyan ravine]

yeah exactly

the 5's 7's and 9's are just marketing numbers

[marsh kiln]

My cpu hits 4ghz

[stoic island]

On the AMD end you actually lose some gaming perf as you go up

[marsh kiln]

No over clocking done on my part

[stoic island]

Since 2 ccd instead of 1

And thermal and power constraints

[cyan ravine]

we also need to remember the whole point of buying an intel K chip is to overclock as well, you pay to "unlock" those features

otherwise just get the non-K chip

same chip, but not unlocked, as you wouldn't have that intention to overclock to begin with

exception to this would be 13600K(F) to 13600 or 12600K(F) to 12600 as those four* specific chips are completely different

the rest of intel's lineup in like the last 4 years? makes total sense

[upper condor]

spelling error on gigabyte rma page

lol

[cyan ravine]

lol

[upper condor]

found two in the bios as well

amazing as always

[cyan ravine]

yeah my gigglesnap board has a few lmao

[errant laurel]

Anyone have a clx prebuilt?

[empty pollen]

quite the chat on the i5/i7/i9 marketing scheme

man i missed so much fun

[cerulean snow]

anyone know if this is good for $800 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TxQKjZ also if it can play boneworks

[fossil cedar]

Never heard of boneworks but no, also the motherboard has no price

This is MUCH better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fyrqv3

[cerulean snow]

can it run vr games?

[languid nimbus]

oh yea

[cerulean snow]

ok

[fossil cedar]

Yeah should run vr okay

[mossy venture]

Patos list is so much better the two aren't even comparable

[modest niche]

Can I post a link in here because I just want to make sure I can play warzone

[mossy venture]

Yes

[wicked frigate]

Hey guys I keep getting a message saying “USB device over current status detected” anyone know how to fix this

[obsidian wigeon]

Your usb device is drawing too much power from the port, what do you have connected to it?

[wicked frigate]

Back of mobo

But when I took them all out and tried still same error

[obsidian wigeon]

Try clearing cmos then

[wicked frigate]

Ok if that doesn’t work then?

Because I can’t do it rn since it’s too late

[desert gulch]

It's too late to clear CMOS?

[heady kayak]

Is this an Asus motherboard?

[modest niche]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkgcsL

I want to make sure it gonna be able to run mw2

[obsidian wigeon]

No, heck no

That's a pretty old cpu

The whole list is a mess

[cyan ravine]

No no no no no

[obsidian wigeon]

@modest niche https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TnLpTn

Way faster gpu for less money

And pure ssd storage too

[modest niche]

Thank yall

[languid nimbus]

H510

[obsidian wigeon]

Chose pop air as a case cause it looked similar to H510 but not choking parts

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lj2jzf

@modest niche this is better

[languid nimbus]

3200 cl16 > 3600 cl18?

[obsidian wigeon]

6950xt feels like a waste, assuming 1080p

[cyan ravine]

1080p?

He has 1080p?

[obsidian wigeon]

literally identical

[cyan ravine]

[languid nimbus]

ahh

[modest niche]

Will it be able to stream as well when I'm not working I want to be able to stream

[obsidian wigeon]

idk, gotta ask the guy first lel

[dusty cedar]

will the linali 120mm infinity fans be enough to push/pull enough air though my radiator?

[obsidian wigeon]

streaming? swap cpu for 12600k and use quicksync

[cyan ravine]

Ah streaming? You kinda would prefer nvenc

Or quicksync yeah

One sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4XbyMb

Also yeah what resolution monitor is this for lol

[languid nimbus]

could easily do 144(+)hz 1440p

[modest niche]

Asus tuff 27 lcd wide screen adaptive

[obsidian wigeon]

What res?

There's lots different tuf 27 inch models

[modest niche]

165 hz and 1920 x 1080

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay

[modest niche]

I'm new to this whole pc gaming stuffs

[obsidian wigeon]

Lemme go ahead and optimize mine a little bit more, to match felix's but with the 6800

[languid nimbus]

Go ahead and toss a 7900xtx in there

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BXy8Vw

I would use extra for better cpu tbh

Like 13600K

Oop, ram is too expensive

[modest niche]

I know it a stupid question what the difference between 13600k over the 12600k

[obsidian wigeon]

It's faster

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9cHpTn

But as is it's fine, if you wanna save cash

[modest niche]

$1300 that is way cheaper than the one I was looking at

[cyan ravine]

Even 6800 I'd be inclined to go 1440p really

[obsidian wigeon]

Then 6750xt

[modest niche]

I was looking at a cyberpowerpc at best buy it $1800 ather taxes the guy told me it better to build one

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GDZWpH

boom

[dusty cedar]

hes not lying.

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tXy8Vw

Like this

For specifically WZ

[obsidian wigeon]

wew

that's better then

[dusty cedar]

for the same price you pay at best buy you can pay the same amount and build one way better for yourself

[modest niche]

Plus he told me cyberpowerpc was a bad pc

[cyan ravine]

Cyberpower is only as good as the builders they hire off the street

[obsidian wigeon]

At 1.8k I would just buy 1440p monitor+6950xt rig

[cyan ravine]

In other words completely trash to somewhat alright

[modest niche]

I honestly don't know anything about this but I got a buddy that can help me build it

[cyan ravine]

That's awesome

It should work out of the box really

[languid nimbus]

Make sure they know what they’re doing. lol

especially if you get a lot of rgb

[modest niche]

Rgb mean the light right?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[obsidian wigeon]

best buy had like 5800+3060 legion 5 tower for 899

but that's gone now

back to normal price

[modest niche]

I appreciate yall

[cyan ravine]

All g

[modest niche]

I'm gonna order this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9cHpTn

[obsidian wigeon]

uh, it's not exactly optimal tho

but if you insist it's fine

[modest niche]

Is this one better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tXy8Vw

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[modest niche]

Okay I was just making sure

[heavy atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BDmgyK

can you guys put a good gpu for me?

600$ or under

[cyan ravine]

Ima change the ssd too

[languid nimbus]

Mp34 2tb is cheaper on Newegg

[cyan ravine]

Can you stretch it to 630 @heavy atlas
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nYLpTn

That's as high of a gpu I'd do there with that cpu anyway

[south cliff]

Got a Ryzen 7 3700x pc case hdd psu a bunch of fans and motherboard that the cpu is in with the wraith cooler for 50 dollars

[heavy atlas]

i got a diff ssd

[south cliff]

And I got a 1660 ti for 80 and slapped it in there

[heavy atlas]

it had 2 tb

[cyan ravine]

You bought it already?

I figured you hadn't purchased it

Also the case?

[dusty cedar]

@cyan ravine whats your thoughts on this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9VDnfv

[cyan ravine]

Hate the board, terrible fans, terrible case, the SSD has an active known issue that is killing it within 2 weeks with the current stock, the monitor can be cheaper and I'd pick the RM850E psu for the same price

[languid nimbus]

naw

[cyan ravine]

And I'm not mincing that

[heavy atlas]

@cyan ravine yea i got the case

[cyan ravine]

Because I gave you like, 8 lists

[heavy atlas]

i got everything besides the psu cpu cooler and you

gpu

[languid nimbus]

• purchasing full price windows key

[cyan ravine]

Ah, how much is the psu

[heavy atlas]

like 130

[cyan ravine]

And that cou cooler too

Ah ok we can do better for the psu

[heavy atlas]

just put different stuff into the build that will be good

[dusty cedar]

"the SSD has an active known issue"

that only applies to ones made in 2021.
any particular reason why you hate everything else?

[languid nimbus]

y60 struggles to breathe

[cyan ravine]

Terrible price and no, it doesn't apply to 2021 versions, it includes all current stock with the recent firmware

[cyan ravine]

Give me a minute

[heavy atlas]

ok ty

[potent portal]

The firmware fix was only released at the end of February so it's fairly likely you get a bad drive. You can fix it before it's a problem, if you're comfortable enough to flash it with a simple tool.

[dusty cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoAFzdz0h5M

[languid nimbus]

I wouldn’t go with 980 pro over p41

tbh

[cyan ravine]

Or p44 pro

Or sn850z

Like, so many other drives clap it

Terrible price is the other reason I veto a 980 pro

You're buying again into the marketing and hype

[potent portal]

I wouldn't go with 980 Pro over anything personally. In gaming you get about a half second less load times. It really only matters for video editing and other heavy tasks.

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fFbyMb @heavy atlas

[heavy atlas]

ty

[languid nimbus]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1739218/? Oh dang

[cyan ravine]

Even then there are better drives for the price to do the same stuff

Sn850x just claps a 980 pro in everything

[potent portal]

I helped someone diagnose their drive as having this problem just last week though. There's definitely still bad stock out there, just not at Jay's specific Microcenter in SoCal.

[cyan ravine]

I'm even worried about my 970 plus coming

It likely uses the 980 *pro hardware

First thing I'm doing is firmware updating it

[potent portal]

The 980 non-pro doesn't seem to be affected afaik but that's always good practice

[dusty cedar]

i have the 970 plus in my laptop. never had an issue with it

only 1tb i think though

[cyan ravine]

Yes because the old ones don't have 980 pro controllers

The new ones do

[desert gulch]

They really shouldn't have called it the 980

[cyan ravine]

Better safe than sorry I don't want to find my drive is locked after 2 weeks to read only

And damaged beyond repair

Samsung will not honor the 980 pro's breaking at this time

[fleet heron]

ive got the 980 pro...

is it that bad??

[dusty cedar]

no. depends on your firmware version

[fleet heron]

havent had no problems with it

i cant compare as its my first build

[dusty cedar]

if youre worried about it watch the video i put up here then go here.

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/magician/

[fleet heron]

a

[earnest olive]

is the y60 that bad?

[dusty cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoAFzdz0h5M

[fleet heron]

nah im not having problems so ima hope for the best

[earnest olive]

actually with that gpu probably

[fleet heron]

what gpu>

?

[earnest olive]

yeston sakura 3080

[fleet heron]

ah

[earnest olive]

already an underpowered cooler, but then you're sticking an air cooled gpu in a y60

[languid nimbus]

the h510 actually beats the y60 in some tests iirc

[earnest olive]

which is very much not designed for air cooled gpu

[dusty cedar]

2 140mm fans below it and everyone upset. 😂

[earnest olive]

tbh i'm not surprised

[obsidian wigeon]

update to latest firmware before your ssd bricks itself lol

[dusty cedar]

not to mention the other 2 140mm fans on the side of the case

[earnest olive]

at least y60 actually offers a nice unique aesthetic though

[earnest olive]

fan count isn't everything lol

[dusty cedar]

i agree but itll be getting air from 3 different sources blowing over it

[earnest olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OupiPZybyBE

[fleet heron]

hm noted ill do it tommorow

[dusty cedar]

plus in a house with the temp at 69 degrees f

[languid nimbus]

yeah the y60 is beautiful, just nearly any case made for aesthetics is gonna have trouble with temps ig

[earnest olive]

i have an o11 which is like... the old y60

[fleet heron]

dunno the case but that looks like the worst for airflow an its ugly asf

[earnest olive]

i'm not delusional about it being a good case despite my 12 fans

i run it open

then it becomes a good case

lol

[dusty cedar]

thats whjy i didnt go for that case. a mesh screen was extra and the case is already expensive

[earnest olive]

you'll probably want to run the case with open side

if you want to get the y60

the yeston cooler looks amazing but it's not great as an actual cooler

it's gonna need the help

[dusty cedar]

i have small kids and a cat. having it open isnt an option. however, i might have to modify the screens over the slots if it becomes an issue

[earnest olive]

i've been dailying an open side case next to an air purifier for more than a year, it's not an issue

okay fair enough i have a cat but not kids

also is the most angelic well behaved cat ever and has never dreamed of jumping on a desk in his 14 years

[dusty cedar]

my wifes cat is miserable. it jumps all over anything and everything and craps on everything

it refuses to use a litter box. my pc isnt about to become one

[earnest olive]

💀

my condolences

but yeah the yeston 3080 barely doesn't thermal throttle at stock in an open case

[dusty cedar]

but yeah, 4 140mm fans and 4 120mm fans with an aio should be enough to keep everything good

[earnest olive]

so in a hyte y60 it probably will thermal throttle at stock

you can undervolt i guess

[dusty cedar]

there was a different gpu i was going to get but they refuse to ship to me for some reason so i got that

[earnest olive]

watching a review of it rn, the yeston 3080 hit 81.7C core and 97.9C hotspot while gaming at stock in an open case

83C is thermal throttle point

[dusty cedar]

under what conditions? are they pushing it to its max or what

[earnest olive]

...stock gaming

[dusty cedar]

i can always return it and get something different if it doesnt work out for me

ill know by the end of the week

or next week whichever

i think also it might make a bigger difference since the cooling fins will be facing the direction of airflow from the bottom 140mm fans and not sitting normal

[flint sapphire]

[dusty cedar]

no u

[flint sapphire]

Bruh bought a 27inch 1080p screen

[dusty cedar]

sure did

theres almost no game that supports 4k natively without upscaling so whats the point getting anything more. if i wanna watch a movie i have a 4k tv for that. why you mad about what i bought

[flint sapphire]

What is the screen door effect? The screen door effect is the occurrence of thin, dark lines or a mesh appearance caused by the gaps between pixels on a screen or projected image.

[dusty cedar]

speakin on tv's. i have a 70" 4k uhd hdr10 tv on the wall above my desk.

[flint sapphire]

Nice. Should’ve listened to the 3+ people telling you to get a 1440p display though

[dusty cedar]

whys it matter. i dont play games that use remotely that amount of detail. not even on my ps5.

[flint sapphire]

Refer to this

[dusty cedar]

sweet. now i can run among us at 240hz with a "screen door"

[flint sapphire]

And va ghosting

[meager ibex]

So my mother bought me the i5 part combo

It's coming later this week

She wanted me to have the longetivity rather than a quick fix

Motherboard and CPU

Along with thermal paste and a screw kit

Whatever is left she said is fo me to use on a game or something

I'm... shaking I'm so excited

[fossil cedar]

Btw your case comes with the screws and your cooler comes with the thermal paste you'd be better off spending that money on a cooler or just pocketing it

[meager ibex]

Ahhh I am not getting another case or cooler. Which is why I am getting that stuff.

I'm just replacing what I have already

[fossil cedar]

Well you can reuse the screws in your cade still, the thermal paste is valid though

[meager ibex]

Yee. I just wanted to be on the safe side. Plus... knowing me...I'm gonna lose some pfft

[stiff anchor]

Is this were I ask for build feedback/advice/suggestions

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[stiff anchor]

salvaged this PSU off an old PC: cmpsu-750hx
would it work for my build? https://pcpartpicker.com/user/The_Swedish_Llama/saved/mMk9K8

[obsidian wigeon]

I wouldn't do that

Get a new psu

[stiff anchor]

But that costs money...

That I'm not 100% out of but I am low on

[paper summit]

Either spend the money now or spend a hell of alot more once that psu goes kaput

And takes your system with it lol

[stiff anchor]

It's too old? Or not the right specs? Or?

[paper summit]

That's a really old psu lol

2009💀

[obsidian wigeon]

The name and model sounds like a very old pau

Yep, that's not reusable

Old standards and degradation due to age

[stiff anchor]

Can anyone recommend one that would work for my build that's not super expensive, I'm pretty tight on money

[paper summit]

A 650w would be fine for that build

[obsidian wigeon]

tuf bronze 650w is what i can think out of the top of my head

[stiff anchor]

I mean I don't have a max I would just go into debt, but I don't want my PC to die so I'm gonna spend what I gotta

[paper summit]

No please don't go Into debt over a pc lol

[obsidian wigeon]

oof

100, yeah nah

[paper summit]

We've alr had instances of people doing that

Not bad

[obsidian wigeon]

Since the gpu doesn't look bought

I would suggest saving $50 or so for 6700xt

It'll give you room for a psu at least

[paper summit]

6750 is just an oc 6700xt

[stiff anchor]

I just bought a new cpu and GPU for it but I've had the rest of the build running on a 450w but then I noticed the GPU requires more then that

Everything is bought expect for the PSU PC is up and running with older CPU and GPU

[earnest olive]

not really, they are using slightly different hardware

[paper summit]

Are they?

Hmm

Thought it was just faster mem

[earnest olive]

same core, but 6750xt has better g6 chips

[paper summit]

Okk

[earnest olive]

it's a little more than what i would just call a factory oc

[paper summit]

Gamefrost moment

[earnest olive]

it's actually different chips, not just a factory vram oc

[stiff anchor]

Only part I don't have in my possession is the PSU

[paper summit]

Wonder how close I can get with my cards mem it seems fine at 2150 fast timings

Yea they went up lol

My 650w b5 is over 80 🗿

And its like c teir iirc

I'll check

Oh b teir

Hmm

[paper summit]

TUF

#BRINGWEGGSHUFFLEBACK

Omg yessss

[stiff anchor]

thanks for the advice guys

[paper summit]

Cough Cough

The ko is 630 on asus website

💀

Yea lmao

You have 3090 there's no need 🗿

GRRRRR

HOW DARE YOU

[hallow glen]

whats a AMD i only know ATI

[stoic island]

Push the highest voltages you can through it, acquire ln2, get some hwbot points before killing it and putting it on display

[paper summit]

Nob

Sure

You're gonna kill it

Trust

[stiff anchor]

would it be a good idea to check the shell shockers every day and wait for a psu?

i still have all the old parts in my psu currently so i dont need to install the new stuff right now

how do i know if its A or B tier?

[stiff anchor]

so dont get anything thats not on that list?

[fossil cedar]

that list has a huge option so unless its brand new and has reviews... no

[stiff anchor]

kk

[earnest olive]

me powering my 3090 with a chinese PSU that wasn't on the list

wow

imagine flexing that you have brain activity

not all of us are so lucky

[leaden mauve]

She has to borrow it from other people, her brain cannot produce coherent thoughts on its own.

Example: random terdactyl noises in vc

[earnest olive]

random mushroom noises

[strong raft]

pterodactyl*

[fossil cedar]

do you like death xd

[earnest olive]

yes

I got sent another chinese psu

this time it's 1000w

[fossil cedar]

is it 95+ ?

[earnest olive]

no sadly it's only 80+ gold

[fossil cedar]

if its not 95+ gold i dont want it

[earnest olive]

not 95+ platitum

[fossil cedar]

weak

[earnest olive]

it has a feature that I'm not sure what the purpose of it is

dual native 12vhpwr

[fossil cedar]

lol

[earnest olive]

I guess it's for the 3 people that own a hof 4090

except it's only 1000w so

not really

[fossil cedar]

why do you has chinese psu

[earnest olive]

gifts from the motherland

[fossil cedar]

lmao

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-iron-man-who-asked-who-asked-meme-meme-gif-24590276

[strong raft]

Yo momma

[earnest olive]

but yeah they sent them to me for free

both are now speculative B tier

[fossil cedar]

nice by who lol?

[earnest olive]

segotep and vetroo

[fossil cedar]

teach me your ways

[earnest olive]

I got 2 free power supplies that are actually quite nice

and a very interesting case

[fossil cedar]

how did you do such magik

[earnest olive]

get this

the case has a fan mount for back of cpu socket cooling

[fossil cedar]

.....

interesting

[earnest olive]

and of course a mesh cutout in the back so you can see your rgb fan for cooling the back of your motherboard lmao

also a glass front but with tiltable windows to open air intakes for the front fans

and a built in gpu support bracket

what a wacky case

of course i did the only reasonable thing one could do with such a case

put a 3090 in it

I honestly really like how the front looks

it's unique for sure

[fossil cedar]

lmao

hows the perf

[earnest olive]

it's not bad

those p12s can pull a good amount of air through those angled windows

[fossil cedar]

oh nice

[earnest olive]

good enough to keep a 3090 cool anyways

can you see the built in gpu support

[fossil cedar]

fancy

barely tbh

[earnest olive]

pretty neat feature

it's on the bottom right of the gpu

you can see an arm extending from the case to hold the gpu up

[fossil cedar]

yeah pretty neat

[earnest olive]

you can also see the angle of the windows in that pic

[obsidian wigeon]

antec p12 fans?

[fossil cedar]

arctic

[earnest olive]

it's pretty far

very decent case to receive for free

some very interesting quirks lol

[fossil cedar]

how did you receive it for freee

seems pretty cool tho

[earnest olive]

they just wanted me to review them lol

for all 3

[fossil cedar]

damson

where do i sign up

asking for a friend 👀

i feel left out how are yall doin this

[earnest olive]

step 1. be in the US probably

[fossil cedar]

smh the companies racist toward the EU 😤

[earnest olive]

you’re not in the EU

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-thinking-about-you-think-thinking-of-you-gif-20503421

[earnest olive]

your home country of bri’in did a silly lil brexit thing

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-pink-gun-shoot-girly-gun-gif-25395477

[earnest olive]

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/jimchi-jim-chi-asmr-jimちasmr-hugo-da-hell-will-rain-down-on-you-gif-19322267

[jolly river]

https://tenor.com/view/british-britain-chad-gigachad-british-gigachad-gif-24302431

[desert gulch]

Bri'ish

The Bri'ish alphabe'only has 25 le''ers - i's missing T

[potent portal]

They do love their tea though

[fossil cedar]

across the pond its called ea

[upper condor]

😪

more gpu issues debugging

tldr; fans go max speed, display turns off

[fossil cedar]

RMA gpu?

[upper condor]

decided to look at gpu z and log file, i noticed right before i crashed power draw went from 214.5W, to 165W, to 155W, to 115W, then spiked to 264W when crashed(1 second polling interval)

[upper condor]

used 😭

shouldnt have risked it IG

[potent portal]

Underclock it a bit and see if the problem goes away

[fossil cedar]

If it wasn't registered on the OG buyers account you can probably register it if you ask them for receipt