building-and-recc-chat

[haughty void]

@fossil cedar https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FH7ZbK

I decided to go single aio which is on the GPU and gonna limit the CPU power to be safe

Actually wait

[fossil cedar]

That'd work, I'd probably get the ssupd meshilicious, phanteks p200a or cooler master nr200(p) then personally

[cyan ravine]

@haughty void also check out the jonsbo i100 pro

I just remembered this one about an hour ago

it fits a 360 rad

and an atx psu, and a full size gpu

[haughty void]

Ill do the checking when I get back to the hotel.

Thanks for suggestions

[haughty void]

this would allow us to use a larger cooler

[cyan ravine]

[haughty void]

if i still use sfx psu

it keeps the tolerences perfect

this is aircooler way

basically this would work perfect... i could also verticle mount the gpu

then less strain on the tubes

[cyan ravine]

i100 pro is special

one of the only reasonable 360 rad cases for itx

[haughty void]

i dont need 360mm but its always better to have larger space

other issue

i only see it going for 279

[cyan ravine]

ya little catch xD

[haughty void]

whats the catch

[cyan ravine]

the price

[limber oyster]

Is 47°C on idle for a 4.9ghz 8 core i7-9700k decent?

[haughty void]

meh why must you do this to me

100$ more isnt worth it 😐

[cyan ravine]

cos you made me want one too

[obsidian wigeon]

idle doesn't matter

what matters is load

[haughty void]

load matters alot

[dry tinsel]

[gentle pollen]

Sus.

[haughty void]

shhh

[gentle pollen]

Neva.

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-scream-gif-24774855

[austere jungle]

Just replaced my motherboard and can’t get the system to post

Or at least the indication lights are not illuminating

[mossy venture]

What mobo did you have and what mobo did you get

And what cpu

I'd make sure mobo and cpu power are fully plugged in

[austere jungle]

Went from a z490 asus strix to a z590 asus strix

[mossy venture]

Shouldn't be and compatibility issues then

[austere jungle]

I also changed cpu i7 10700kf to i9 11900kf

[mossy venture]

I'd check all connections, cpu contact, and socket pins

Also could put the 10700kf in and see if it boots

[austere jungle]

That’s what I’m afraid of

I’ll give it a go

[mossy venture]

If it doesn't, then it's not the cpu

If it does, then it is the cpu

[austere jungle]

Ok

[austere jungle]

Contacts look good socket looks good going to try the old cpu

I don’t need the cpu cool to try and get it to post right?

Hate to waste the paste

@mossy venture

[mossy venture]

No

[austere jungle]

Looks like it is posting at the moment with the old cpu

Ok going to try the new cpu again

[devout flower]

Hello!

[austere jungle]

Ugh this looks to be the case no posting again

All my lights light up and fan run but nothing in the posting lights

[mossy venture]

If the mobo has bios flash, could try flashing bios

Or updating bios with 10700 in

[austere jungle]

First thing I tried with the flashback button

I even confirmed the version was updated when I got into the bios with the 10700

I can’t even return it to Newegg cause I already threw the box away

Could it be my ram

I’m not seeing my slower mhz ram listed as support so maybe the ram?

@mossy venture

[tepid roost]

@cyan ravine I hope today when I get home and get on my PC I don't have anymore stutters

Last night the audio bitrate change seemed to help a lot

Only thing that happened that was weird to me was that when I got on Apex legends my audio went higher pitched but I also didn't restart my PC before after changing the bit rate plus the game started in a lower resolution which I figured one of those two things caused it

[mossy venture]

That's not the issue

If it boots with the 10700 and not the 11900, it's either faulty cpu or wrong bios version

Afaik anyways, if anyone believes otherwise please correct me

[austere jungle]

Has to be the cpu cause I triple check the bios version with the 10700 and it’s reporting as the latest on when compared to the Asus website on another computer

[leaden raft]

ppl that have built in sff, any recc's on cable managament? so little room

[earnest olive]

z590 should work with 11900K on any bios

so if it's not booting with the 11900K you have a different issue than bios

you should just return the cpu and the board and get an i5-13400F + B760 board anyways

no point buying a new z590 board to upgrade to an 11900K

@austere jungle

[mossy venture]

I thought so, but wasn't sure

Wasn't sure if maybe intel did a weird and released the 11900k after other 11th gen

[earnest olive]

intel releases K skus first

but even though, for example, the 13400F came out after B760 boards

the release bios for B760 already contains microcode to boot the cpus

because of course the manufacturers know it's coming before it's available to buy

so yeah something's faulty

you should definitely never try to post with no cooler though

if wasting paste is the concern just mount the cooler with no paste

[empty pollen]

once i posted with a 12700f without a cooler 😛

went to 100 in just 20 seconds

[earnest olive]

I mean you can do it and it might work

but you shouldn't

20 seconds is surprising

[empty pollen]

totally

[earnest olive]

would expect less than 1 second

[empty pollen]

was a quick test to see if the mobo was dead

posted, entered bios and turned off

[earnest olive]

especially on a 11900K though where stock voltage is going to exceed 1.4V

💀

[empty pollen]

yeah that definetly fry an i9

[earnest olive]

and it's an asus board so auto cpu voltage will probably be 12V

tbh wouldn't be surprised if auto was >1.5v under light load

I had a 10700f in a strix z490-g that did 1.45v auto for just 4.6ghz on a locked cpu

[tepid roost]

@earnest olivehelp lol

@austere condor any idea why my audio is for some reason high pitched now?

I changed my bitrate cause a slightly higher bit rate was causing my pc to stutter on specific games

[dim forge]

any cheap´and good cooler under 30$

[tepid roost]

@obsidian wigeon good person would you know the cause of all of my audio going high pitched when I open a game or join discord?

youtube on it's own is fine but when I open a game it goes high

[devout flower]

Hi! Does anyone know of a mini-PC motherboard (or a mini PC) with 2 independent NICs? I need to connect to 2 separate networks; one is a software VLAN and the other is a local LAN. I need to stop AnyConnect software VPN from taking over my local network communications. If PC: Budget is ~$1500, minimum of 13th gen i3, Itx form factor is ideal but matx ok. Ok if only an extra pcie slot that I can add another (independent) NIC. - thanks for help!

[tepid roost]

@cyan ravine the bitrate didn't exactly fix things afterall

I updated my drivers cause they were out of date after I changed the bitrate for some reason and then rocket league was down to 60-70 fps and there was this weird line near the top of my screen

I changed it back to 48000 cause it's playable and only stuttered once during game and hasn't since then

[tepid roost]

someones help would be great ngl

I just switched to my 1060 and updated drivers and nothing is wrong now it seems thus far

my 2nd monitor isn't lagging with any games so far

[empty pollen]

i would like to help but i know next to nothing about audio 😦 hopefully someone will help you on that matter 😦

[tepid roost]

it's not audio specific Ravell

But I'm just gonna RMA the gpu at this point

[empty pollen]

oh

[tepid roost]

my 1060 is working perfectly fine thus far

as good as a 1060 will lol but still

my headphones aren't showing up but that's driver related

the audio hasn't cut out nor my pc stutter and when playing games my 2nd monitor is fine

doesn't hurt to rma the gpu

hopefully things good smoothly regarding that

[earnest olive]

bruh pinged 4 people 💀

[tepid roost]

I wonder why lmao

almost like I'm on a time crunch when it comes to the RMA cause I don't know about having a warranty for it

also those 4 people knew the situation and no one answered

[leaden mauve]

@earnest olive

[earnest olive]

sorry I'm too busy with my 110 hour work week to provide free tech support on call 24/7

[tepid roost]

lol

[earnest olive]

@leaden mauve

[earnest olive]

what ic is that

[leaden mauve]

[earnest olive]

what are you running it at

[tepid roost]

tbh mushroom

[earnest olive]

is this what you're gonna beat my ddr4 with

[tepid roost]

my problems are more important than your life LL

[leaden mauve]

already did

[earnest olive]

post aida

[leaden mauve]

i did whenever i have the energy to bench again lol

[earnest olive]

just dm it to me whenever

back to work, bye

[leaden mauve]

[stoic island]

Is there anything else you need it to do? It can be pretty simple and cheap if you just need some pcie slots for nics

[torpid sorrel]

guys

my 6800 xt just black screened

and then came back on

i had beamng drive running

and it said i had a drive timeout?

im gonna update my drivers in a few

will it be fine or do i need to do anything?

[empty pollen]

like to update your drivers?

no... just update your drivers normally

[leaden mauve]

mine does that all the time :)

[torpid sorrel]

well is my monitor black screening common?

[paper summit]

It will be fine just reinstall drivers

[torpid sorrel]

and then i get a message from amd drivers that say they timed out

[paper summit]

Are you overclocked?

[torpid sorrel]

nope

[paper summit]

One sec I've been using older drivers lately and haven't had issues

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-radeon-software-adrenalin-22-9-5-driver-download.html

Try these

The new one has issues for wtv reason

[torpid sorrel]

wtv?

[rose grove]

whatever

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[paper summit]

Lol

[torpid sorrel]

its working rn but ill stress test and then i might install the older drivers

[paper summit]

Okay let me know If you have any issues

It's been pretty good on my 6700xt so far

[paper summit]

Rommys* xD

Nah you get the 3090 yet tho ?

[torpid sorrel]

i dont think it should look like that

in a stress test

0 rpm

[paper summit]

No its fine your gpu is only at 45c

[torpid sorrel]

or like that

[paper summit]

Wait

No

[torpid sorrel]

well its a stress test

[paper summit]

It's not boosting

[torpid sorrel]

?

[paper summit]

Your card isn't running at the right clockspeed lol

Try a game

[torpid sorrel]

should i change min. clock

[paper summit]

No just leave at default for now

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[paper summit]

I want to make sure there's nothing wrong with the gpu

[torpid sorrel]

vc 1

what

game

[paper summit]

Oh? Just anything relatively demanding

[torpid sorrel]

ok

so like forza 5

h5

[paper summit]

Yea that works lol

[torpid sorrel]

ok

how do i tell if my gpu is broken

[paper summit]

I want you to turn amds overlay on or msi afterburner if you have it

And tell me the gpu clockspeed

Because it should have been going higher in the stress test

But wasn't

[torpid sorrel]

ok

so i tell you peak clock?

[paper summit]

Yea that works

[torpid sorrel]

ok

what happened to my pc

like

my desktop shortcuts are all moved around

fh5 is optimizing for my pc again

idk what else

[paper summit]

Just right click and press sort lol

[torpid sorrel]

ty but why did it do that after it blackscreened?

[paper summit]

Honestly not sure lol

[torpid sorrel]

ok

thats nice

fh5 just crashed

[paper summit]

Oh boy

[torpid sorrel]

never happened before

[paper summit]

Try the drivers I sent

[torpid sorrel]

i will

my gpu has been working fine

its just weird

\

@paper summit

also it started when i was watching a yt video

should i try to do that again and see what happens?

[paper summit]

That wouldn't make a difference

[torpid sorrel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/wlhb5q/driver_timeout_6800xt_tried_everything/

comments

[paper summit]

I honestly dont know why it just stops boosting

[tepid roost]

are amd cards just dying now all of a sudden

or there drivers*

[torpid sorrel]

im gonna try watching a yt video and see if it crashes

brb

so far nothing has happened

could it be hardware acceleration?

[paper summit]

It def could be

@honest knot had similar hardware acceleration issues right?

[torpid sorrel]

ok

so what should i do

im still on the most recent amd drivers

should i use the ones you sent?

[tepid roost]

any techies awake or nah

[leaden mauve]

sure :)

[tepid roost]

my pc once again stuttered on rocket league I'm thinking at this point it's a power issue mobo issue or rocket league issue or flipping power issue idek

basically I took my 6700xt out cause I thought it was causing this and did some other things @leaden mauve

using a 1060 now and I ddued it

thing is with my 6700xt I was having another issue as well that when I'd play a game my 2nd monitor would lag really badly

so I'm rmaing it but I'm thinking either something is wrong with rl specifically which would be nice or there's another problem

I'm hoping it's just an rl problem because this has been plaguing me for days

[analog pulsar]

No sorry there to busy dealing with there life issues

[tepid roost]

ok

[analog pulsar]

So both gpus lag in rocket league but your 6700xt also makes secondary monitor laggy

Have you tried different cablez??

[tepid roost]

no but that doesn't have to do with my whole pc lagging I don't think

maybe with the 2nd monitor on the 6700xt? tho that doesn't make much sense either?

doesn't make sense that it'd only happen when a game is on tho

[analog pulsar]

Well if both gpus are lagging in game 2 options 1. Both gpis are faulty 2. Something else is broken

[tepid roost]

my 1060 isn't faulty I don't think lol

[analog pulsar]

Well games are resource intensive Sometimes so it would pull every last but it needs

[tepid roost]

rocket league isn't very intensive

less than 50% gpu and cpu used generally since I have it capped at 240

which is normal for rl

[analog pulsar]

Habe you tried any other games

[tepid roost]

yea I tried brawlhalla earlier with the 6700xt and it did it once

it could be a lot of different things kenzi

I'm leaning towards cpu or psu cause those are the only other 2 things I changed\

[analog pulsar]

What cpu% in games

[tepid roost]

it depends on the game

[analog pulsar]

Also what are your specs and power supply

[tepid roost]

650w enermax psu and 5600x cpu

[analog pulsar]

Are you running 1080p

[tepid roost]

the wattage is good

yes

[analog pulsar]

Okay

Yea 5600x and 6700xt should be fine on a 650W

[tepid roost]

yea Fish and falcie and some others all said those parts were good

one of the 3 parts is faulty or I need to reinstall windows

gpu seems to not be the issue I guess?

at least not the issue with the pc stutters

still gonna rma my 6700 cause of the other issues it's having might as well

[tepid roost]

for some reason tho switching gpus the stutter has hardly happened

it seems to only happen once

probably a reinstall of rl would fix maybe the gpu was just causing it and it's kinda messed up something in rl

[brittle tinsel]

is this the right crystaldisk place? the installer only shows up in vista???

[obsidian wigeon]

it is

[dry tinsel]

Do not the thing unless you know it has a use for you

[haughty void]

rommy always has a use

[wary blaze]

Hey

I need a server build

For office

Hey get me a server build usd budget like 20000.Office server can handle almost 200 computer at a time without lag

[jagged ember]

Just buy 200 computers

[obsidian wigeon]

Sounds like a troll to me

[gentle pollen]

Yeah I agree with Foxy.

[obsidian wigeon]

No one would be asking for discord advice when they're buying for a company

[limber oyster]

Got my stock GPU cooler back on

[dim forge]

PS 120 SE is an overkill for an i3? planning on upgrading later to a 13400-13600k

[mossy venture]

Would def be overkill for an i3, but fine with a 13400/13600k, as long as they fixed the contact issues from the pa120 se

Considering it's relatively cheap, it's fine to buy for an i3 with the plan to upgrade in the future

[dim forge]

would you recommend anything else in the same price range?

[mossy venture]

Not like overkill cooling is a bad thing

[leaden mauve]

Save the money lmao

Alright go ahead then

Alright go ahead and don't not do buy not the don't buy the unify

[sterile bear]

Fair warning... this is my first build and I am green still to the tech world. Just purchased rog strix z960e with an intel i9 12th gen. I put my old intel DTC-DAA18 cpu fan on my new rig. At BIOS cpu temp is 88 celcius (hot af) I am unsure if I need to change settings around in BIOS or purchase a new cpu fan, due to my old one possibly being incompatible. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[mossy venture]

Not a clue what that cooler is, but if it's as old as it sounds it is nowhere near enough for the 12900k

Not to mention that 12900k is terrible value, 13600k is almost always cheaper while having the same performance

Better gaming perf, iirc

If you can return the 12900k I would, then buy a 13600k and ag620 cooler

[earnest olive]

that’s an old intel stock cooler that doesn’t even mount into lga1700 I think

[mossy venture]

That's what I figured, I tried googling dtc-daa18 and nothing came up

[dim forge]

does the ag400 handles a 13600K

[cyan ravine]

13600K or 13600?

Would just avoid the non-K in general btw

[dim forge]

K

[cyan ravine]

I would go ag620

At a minimum

Or thermalright peerless assassin non se

The 120

Dual towers can handle one but barely

[dim forge]

what's the diff between dual tower cooler and a single tower one?

[mossy venture]

Dual tower is a lot better in most scenarios

The pa120 will definitely be fine on a 13600k for gaming, multi core loads would he borderline

[cyan ravine]

Pa120 is also barely any more over an ag400 as well iirc

Note: not the SE one

I'll say it twice

[dim forge]

why not the SE version?

I'll think I'll get the ps120 that just launched

[cyan ravine]

Different coldplate shape makes it less suitable for lga1700

[mossy venture]

The se has contact issues on lga 1700

[cyan ravine]

Versus non-SE

Coldplate shape is very important for newer intel

[dim forge]

I can't find proper reviews since it's "new"

[cyan ravine]

I would wait for reviews if it's a new one

[mossy venture]

It's just a slightly better pa120 se

Literally identical aside from an extra heat pipe

[dim forge]

hmm so probably has the same contact issues?

[cyan ravine]

Possible

[mossy venture]

I would imagine yes

Fc140 is sometimes on sale and I believe that doesn't have the same contact issues

[dim forge]

well imma wait then before buying it

Is the stock cooler from intel extremely bad?

[mossy venture]

It's enough for the 13100 and 13400

The 13600k and up dont come with one because it is nowhere near enough

[cyan ravine]

What does fc stand for anyway

[dim forge]

I mean it's not like an i3 would explode but it would be shameful that it gets throttled

[cyan ravine]

Fearless crustacean?

[dim forge]

same cooler for 12th gen, right?

[mossy venture]

Otherwise known as Iraq lobster

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-dance-redlobster-seafood-gif-5699022

[mossy venture]

Believe so yeah

[cyan ravine]

Wouldn't be any less accepted than Peerless Assassin

[dim forge]

Phantom spirit is a cool name tho

[cyan ravine]

They're all weird names lol

[dim forge]

even tho it's kinda odd you'd call a phantom a spirit

[cyan ravine]

See??

[mossy venture]

Ok fish fungers

[cyan ravine]

Lmao

[mossy venture]

lol

[tepid roost]

@cyan ravineIt's still doing the stutter a single time on rocket league after reinstalling

maybe windows needs done I guess

[gentle vapor]

Which pc do you guys recommend that can handle world of Warcraft well that’s all I play on pc

[frigid night]

You could get away with a PC utilizing a 1080 or better. 16gb RAM and any CPU better than a 5th gen.. That being said.. I'd go for a i3-12100/cheap mobo combo. 16gb RAM and the cheapest GPU that's a 1080 or above.

can get a 12100/mobo for sub $200. a cheap kit of 16gb ddr4 for around $50 (unless you have ddr4 in your PC already, just use that) and for the GPU.. idk prices that well.

Oh also, if you don't have an NVME SSD, then I'd def suggest grabbing one. You can grab a MP33 512gb for $32 or a 1tb for $55. There might be better value ones atm, but the last I knew the 1tb was the bee knees for price/perf.

[frigid night]

If you have a PC already.. Put together a list in https://pcpartpicker.com/ with what you have (if you know what you have) and someone here can put together an upgrade list for you for the lowest cost at current prices. If you are planning on waiting more than a month before you get anything.. then ask more around that time as part prices fluctuate daily... sometimes hourly.

[earnest olive]

i3 won't throttle under stock cooler unless you mounted it wrong

locked i5 is also fine but a bit loud

[stuck juniper]

is 10400f and 2060 going to run hogwarts legacy fine?

[hallow glen]

yea

[leaden raft]

Good place to ask cable management?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[leaden raft]

I’m tryna get the back of my pc way cleaner but the hdmi come out the bottom and the usb and all that is near the top

[little osprey]

Does this look good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6H3J3y

What parts would make it better?

[mossy venture]

Mobo is overpriced and since you have the sn770 as a boot drive I'd just get a cheaper ssd than the 970 Evo plus, like the mp33, mp34, 670p, etc

[fossil cedar]

you want RGB i assume?

[fossil cedar]

and wifi?

[little osprey]

Alr

[little osprey]

I'll be getting both Wifi & lan/ethernet. Reason why is because I may be moving in the next year.

But yea, some rgb would be nice.

[fossil cedar]

do you want to overclock it or leave it stock?

[cyan ravine]

[fossil cedar]

👁️

[limber oyster]

Got a Z370m to replace my h370m

[dim forge]

thanks!

[little osprey]

I've already got an i5 gen 12 12600k. Yes, I'm going to be over clocking.

GPU, I'm not sure what I'm getting. Could use a good opinion or suggestion on that. I want something to play 1080p, 144 to 165h on almost all games.

I'll also be using Blender, UE4 or 5, maybe Maya, Clip Studio, & etc.

A mix between gaming & working

If possible, I'll try to go get something that will get me 1440p

[fossil cedar]

Id do this ( you don't really need a 6750xt it's a really high end card for that but it's good value, also you don't need another ssd but if you want more storage I'd juet get a team mp33 or if you want a faster drive the solidgrim p41 plus)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NbYGZw

6750xt will do 1440p nicely

[south cliff]

400 is actually a good price

[upper rock]

hey guys, want to get a mac laptop which is of a very good configuration
i would want to connect 2 4K monitors with in and have a seamless experience

[potent portal]

What's your budget?
You can get a used M1 Macbook Pro for $675 shipped

[tepid roost]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9m3gXL/zotac-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-gaming-twin-edge-oc-video-card-zt-a30610h-10mlhr is this a decent card?

@fossil cedar what you think

[fossil cedar]

I'd get the 6750xt gigabyte instead, 10$ cheaper and performs like a 3070 outside of ray tracing

[tepid roost]

Can't do amd cards

[fossil cedar]

Why not

[tepid roost]

I have a 6700xt I'm returning tomorrow because they just don't work with my pc

Reorxist had the same issue and it wasn't drivers nor card

Is it a good card or not

[fossil cedar]

What did you try?

[tepid roost]

Ik the price isn't great

Pato I tried a lot of things and I'm not gonna continue trying more when I already got my return request approved

[fossil cedar]

Yeah it's a drop in replacement for the 6700xt basically

[tepid roost]

Ok cool

[fossil cedar]

Alright

[tepid roost]

Thanks lol

That card gave me hell for a week lol

[limber oyster]

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/Ztp323,qBnypg/

Which would y'all recommend

[calm oyster]

@fleet heron ohhh we are similar

We both need a white gpu tho 😭

[fossil cedar]

Neither, the thermalright one is for itx ie small for factor and the other one isn't it's just very overpriced for what it is, what cpu and case are you using?

[limber oyster]

A mini-itx build@fossil cedar

I7-9700k, ASRock mini-itx board, and a BitFenix prodigy M

[fossil cedar]

The prodigy is mitx but the prodigy m is itx do you know which one is it?

[novel python]

Any recommendations for a vertical gpu mount?

[limber oyster]

@fossil cedar prodigy M 2022 specifically. And I'm using a micro-atx board that is mini-itx sized

The prodigy M 2022 can use micro or itx

[fossil cedar]

Okay

[fossil cedar]

Both the deepcool ag620 and ak620 fit according to the specs on the bitfenix site so I'd just get the cheaper of those/whichever you like the look of more

[autumn gulch]

yo is a 10th gen cpu still worth buying new, like a 10700k or 10900k, 10700k is around 260-280 usually 260, to pair with a 3070 or 3080 for cheaper ?

[mossy venture]

no

not whatsoever

the 13400f is better and cheaper

same with 12600k

[fossil cedar]

almost never worth buying over one gen old cpu wise

and you can get a 13600kf for like 290

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GVM48d/intel-core-i5-13600kf-35-ghz-14-core-processor-bx8071513600kf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VNkWGX/intel-core-i5-13400f-25-ghz-10-core-processor-bx8071513400f

actually would go for this over the 13400f, at the current pricing https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tk8bt6/intel-core-i5-12600kf-37-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512600kf

[fossil cedar]

same price nice

although

12600k warmer

[mossy venture]

true

[fossil cedar]

id get the 13400f so you can get a 214xt instead of having to go for like an ag620

[mossy venture]

ag500 at $40 should do the job

[autumn gulch]

hmm i just thought it would still be good since 10th gen i7 has higher turbo than 12700k and base clocks too, plus they seem to be similar in performance, since im getting windows 10 instead of 11 dont know how well it works with that on 12th or 13th gen

3.6 base, 5.0 turbo on 12th gen i7 , 3.8 base, 5.1 turbo on 10700k, kinda strange

[mossy venture]

the ghz is irrelevant to performance

between different generations*

[autumn gulch]

huh , i just though intel usually kept it same or increased it, since before they usually increased, but maybe the new architecture

[fossil cedar]

new architecture yeah instructions per clock improvements

[autumn gulch]

do 12th and 13th gen work well on windows 10 though since i want to run that

ive heard 5000 series and 10th gen worked better, im probably pairing it with a 3070 or up to 3080 gpu

[fossil cedar]

the ones without e cores so the 12400f would be the highest

but id get a 5600 over a 12400

due to pricing

although honestly win 11 isnt much of a change

[autumn gulch]

yea but i think that might bottleneck a 3080 maybe

[fossil cedar]

i hated it originally but you can do a good few tweaks to make it more like win 10

[autumn gulch]

but 5800x or 5900x seem to be good options

[fossil cedar]

depends on what resolution, game and settings tbh

[mossy venture]

no they dont

[autumn gulch]

why not

[mossy venture]

5800x3d, 5700x, or 5600 only am4 cpus worth their sand atm

[autumn gulch]

they are reduced

[fossil cedar]

difference between 5600 and 5900x in gaming is like maybe 10%

waste of money

youd be way better off with a 13600k

[autumn gulch]

so it would work with windows 10 then? what kinda tweaks would have to be done

[mossy venture]

what resolution do you play on btw?

[fossil cedar]

well it'd work but i am pretty sure they dont have the scheduler for e cores on windows 10 which means it would use the worse cores sometimes in gaming

but i meant you can make win 11 more like win11

[mossy venture]

what resolution is your monitor

[autumn gulch]

i want to get 1440p 144hz

i play fps games as well

[mossy venture]

5600 would be fine

[autumn gulch]

the x?

[fossil cedar]

like during setup you can do shift f10 and type BYPASS\NRO and it will let you do local accounts

[mossy venture]

non x

the 5600 and 5600x perform the same

[fossil cedar]

you can get the windows 10 right click back with a reg fix

[autumn gulch]

i mean i was thinking of getting like a higher end am4 or even am5 one cause i can if i get some parts cheaper in my budget

[mossy venture]

what is your budget for the entire build

and do you already have any parts

[autumn gulch]

around 1700 for the pc, maybe 1800 if needed

i dont have parts yet except an ssd but thats gonna be secondary storage cause it's sata

[fossil cedar]

oh you can do way better than a 3080 then

assuming youre in the US anyway

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hW8NbK

[autumn gulch]

UK but the x and non x cpus here cost the same lol so thats nice at least

in us yall have 3080s for around 400 bucks, nice

new too

[fossil cedar]

nah they dont

used sure

[autumn gulch]

lol oh you dont know about that?

the best buy

[fossil cedar]

Oh that was a tiny handful

[autumn gulch]

they had 3070 for 299 and 3080 for 420

[mossy venture]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/LXBVv3

[mossy venture]

no we do not

there were like 5 at around 20 best buys country wide

(exageration, but point made)

[autumn gulch]

oh only 5, thought it was a big restock, i saw this

but yeah i would want a FE card they look good, dk if they restocking them or making them still

[mossy venture]

this is what id do with your budget in the UK

could also do this, but imo I'd spend the bit extra for the 7600 build. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ThLQH2

50 pounds for upgradability

[fossil cedar]

id do this personally https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WxdRmr

and if you needed wifi get the wifi version of that board

[autumn gulch]

hmm pretty good option, not sure if am4 boards are still cheap or not

but intel is good value too

i think i'll watch some benchmarks and reviews to see how they perform

[empty pollen]

there is no restock, that was a clearance sale... once theyre gone... theyre gone

anyway those were sold out at the first few minutes.... probably they will appear on the second market being scalped

[autumn gulch]

oh im in the uk so even if i did see it which i didnt, i probably couldnt have gotten one

[fossil cedar]

no you couldnt have their collection only afaik

[limber oyster]

Does anyone know a way to elevate a case fan a few mm from the case? My bottom case fans rub against the case itself when it powers on

[empty pollen]

drilling new holes?

[limber oyster]

No, as in the fan blades rub against the case. They come into contact

Holes won't fix that

[nimble dew]

HEllo guys I need a pb for $800 without take or shipping can someone help?

[rain bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dJsGZw
Thoughts?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rKg6W4

[rain bloom]

For me? I like it! How are those Intel SSDs? Or doesn’t matter much?

[mossy venture]

Doesn't matter much, won't see a real perf difference

[fleet heron]

Lmfao ft

Fr

[potent portal]

Noctua has anti vibration pads you put on the corners of the fans that elevate it a bit

Bonus with that is it's quiet too

[vestal garden]

https://www.rosewill.com/p/9SIA072HW30652 Question, but will this case I currently have fit an 3070ti-4070ti?

[potent portal]

Depends on which model but your max gpu length is 350mm

[vestal garden]

I think its probably good enough to fit atleast an 4070ti from what I just searched up

[potent portal]

Just make sure the model you get is less than 350mm and it'll fit

Most of them are so you're probably ok but double check

[fleet heron]

Or just cut the gpu in half

[limber oyster]

Fun fact, some of the models, the cooler is longer than the GPU board

Just go water cooling 😎👍

[cyan ravine]

On a 70 card? Kinda no point tbh

4070 Ti's in particular are so overbuilt you're practically running better than water

[potent portal]

Yep they were meant to be a 4080 until Nvidia realized how much backlash there was, so they mostly use the 4080 cooler.

[strong raft]

From chat in gpu channel I'll mention I might go Win11 instead of 10 and fresh install it to P41, unless someone thinks OS should be on sn850x instead. W/ sn550 in adapter, I also possibly thought this:

[potent portal]

It'll honestly make no difference to anything which gen 4 drive the OS is on

[strong raft]

By chance b660 can boot from a pcie adapter? Although 550 could be a spare in another PC instead.

[potent portal]

Yes that would work

I could boot from an adapter on my old AMD 970 board

[cyan ravine]

Try and get a heatsink for that sn850x

[strong raft]

Cool. yea, it could either go in 1st slot under the mobo one, or 2nd slot w/ this one I had:

[analog pulsar]

I wonder if gen 5 will make a difference

[potent portal]

no

There's barely any difference in Windows load times between SATA and PCIe 4.0 already

[analog pulsar]

Sadge

[tawny fiber]

Would any of you upgrade to a 13100f from 10400f and put a 4070ti on it

[potent portal]

I wouldn't touch a 13100. It's just a 12100 with a fresh coat of paint and about 2% more fps.

12400 would be a great buy

[cyan ravine]

If you're really hamstrung you could do a 5600 and prime b450m-A II

You could get away with a 4070Ti at 1440p...but barely

Definitely not worth doing either without 32gb ram

12400 would be the floor imo

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-lmao-mind-blown-squad-gif-17265113

[mossy venture]

You're a ceiling

[languid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-lmao-mind-blown-squad-gif-17265113

x2

[native brook]

So here is the issue I am having.
Changed some fans out and went with the Be Quiet light wings. Everything went in fine and then I discovered due to my older MB and GPU, I have no ARBG connection anywhere .
What can I do to remedy my issue, what hardware is recommended to be the RBG brains that will go with an old ASUS Sabertooth Z77

[frigid night]

I believe the best you will be able to do is get an ARGB fan hub that will allow you to plug all the fans into and then then change the colors via a button.. You won't be able to change the individual LEDs on the fans though as it will be preset lighting modes since you won't be able to plug the hub into an ARGB header. The only remedy is going to be getting a motherboard that has one.

[native brook]

Be Quiet sent a hub with the fans but there is no controls on it. Would this just default into the “rbg puke” as I have heard it referred to but at least keep the fans in sync with each other, or would it simply not function as is?

[frigid night]

Does the hub allow you to plug the ARGB cable of the fan into it?

[native brook]

Yes allows me to grab all the fans into it, and then SATA power. But the hub also has a RBG in port that would normally go to MB

[frigid night]

Now that I'm thinking about it, there are a couple companies that have argb hubs that plug into your usb2 header.

Phanteks/Cooler Master and Razer have these hubs. Let me do a quick look and see which one has normal style ARGB connector ports

[frigid night]

@native brook it seems that each of these only work with their own brands fans.

[wet whale]

Hi i'm trying to install windows 10 on a build I just completed for a friend
i have the installation media on a usb, it's formatted correctly and everything
In the bios i select the usb to boot off of
when I reboot the pc off of the usb it just freezes on a black screen and no matter how long I wait nothing happens,
im trying to just get this done for my friend, but the internet is no help and i'm stuck

any ideas on what the problem is?

when i go into disk management, it says the health of the usb is still good so im unsure if I need to go buy another usb for installation

[frigid night]

I believe you'll need to turn TPM off in the bios.

[wet whale]

ok ill try that out ty

I turned off tpm and i'm still running into the same issue

@frigid night

[frigid night]

Ok, disable secureboot as well

[wet whale]

i did

[frigid night]

Ok, what format is the USB?

[wet whale]

fat32

or however you spell it

should i try flashing the bios?

[frigid night]

No. How did you transfer the ISO over to the USB? Did you use Rufus or the Windows Media Creation Tool?

[wet whale]

i used windows media creation tool

[meager ibex]

Hello. Okay. So. I have Cyberpower PC and my motherboard no longer works. I will turn on my PC... and it'll just continuously go on and off without booting. I read that that is a Motherboard problem and need to replace it.

So... I would like advice on a comparable motherboard to CyberpowerPC Z270 SLI Xtreme ATX w/ RGB, AC WiFi, USB 3.1, 2 PCIe x16, 4 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 1 U.2, 1 M.2 SATA/PCIe

I have intel i7 CPU, 36GB RAM, 800 watt Powersupply, a GeForce GTX 1070 8GB graphics card, and 500GB WD Blue SSD and 3TB harddrive.

I just want to be able to replace it and get back to gaming!

[frigid night]

Sorry, I was on my way to work and it's been busy. Did you get it figured out?

[earnest olive]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165943040270 this would work as a drop-in replacement, you'd need an additional wifi adapter if you need wifi

however, you should also consider just upgrading to a new platform instead of spending this much on a used board that could just die on you again, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sfzPk9 this would be a significant upgrade over your 7th gen i7 and you could sell your old cpu to make up some of the difference

[meager ibex]

Is it an i7 or i3? You gave me an i3 part list. And I want to keep my CPU if I can.

[earnest olive]

an i3-12100f is a significant upgrade over even an overclocked i7-7700K

you can (assuming it still works), just wanted to show you another option

[meager ibex]

Oh alright! That it good to know as a backup idea

and I believe my CPU is just fine

It's legit the motherboard itself

[earnest olive]

it is pretty rare for cpus to die

[meager ibex]

yeah exactly

[earnest olive]

for some reason 7700K is still going for ~$150 on ebay

[meager ibex]

Yeah.. same on Amazon

[plucky timber]

damn

what about z270 boards

[earnest olive]

so if you bought that old z270 you'd be paying $70
if you sold your 7700K and bought the new platform you'd be paying $105 after tax and ebay seller fees

so $70 to stay on old platform with old motherboard vs. $105 to upgrade to a new platform with a better cpu and an upgrade path

i would choose $105 personally

the newer board will still support your current ddr4

[plucky timber]

maybe you could even get a 12400f and a b660

[empty pollen]

what they are trying to tell you is that is much more cost effective on price/performance to get a new current gen hardware (12/13th gen and new mobo) instead of trying to keep your old hardware

[earnest olive]

upgrading to an i5-12400f would bump up the total cost to 177

[leaden mauve]

[plucky timber]

but still

that's a 6 core

compared to a quad core

[empty pollen]

you kill them, thats an entirely other thing xD

[earnest olive]

skill issue

[meager ibex]

I just don't want to downgrade my CPU to an i3

[earnest olive]

it's not a downgrade at all

[plucky timber]

it's not a downgrade

[leaden mauve]

I havent killed a CPU yet, just heavily degraded 2

[earnest olive]

i3-12100F is roughly competitive with i9-10900K in gaming

which is an i9 that's 3 generations newer than your current cpu

[plucky timber]

the 7700k is pretty old

[earnest olive]

don't look at the i3/i5/i7/i9 moniker too much

[meager ibex]

Huh wow. That's pretty impressive actually

[earnest olive]

it's pretty meaningless across generations

[empty pollen]

a 12th gen i3 will beat the crap out of an i7 from the 7th gen

cause different architecture

[plucky timber]

i'd take the opportunity to upgrade to a 12400f

[empty pollen]

whole 6 years difference

[plucky timber]

having a 6 core would really help in newer titles

[earnest olive]

here's an example of an i7 being 93% weaker than an i3

[meager ibex]

Okay.. so. If I upgraded to that... I would need a new i3 12th gen CPU and a compadible Motherboard

[earnest olive]

already linked compatible cpu/mobo in that pcpartpicker list

[meager ibex]

thank you!

I may do that then considering the specs

[plucky timber]

consider getting an i5

[earnest olive]

if you're someone that likes to keep your hardware for a while i would pay a little bit more for the i5-12400f

[plucky timber]

actually what's the gpu?

[earnest olive]

1070

[plucky timber]

oh

[earnest olive]

the i3-12100f is more than enough to keep up with the 1070

[plucky timber]

yeah a 6 core would definitely bump up the performance a lot

[earnest olive]

but the i5-12400f will take a gpu upgrade better

[earnest olive]

ehhh

[plucky timber]

i mean it depends on the game

[earnest olive]

i saw a pretty tame boost going from i3-12100 to i7-13700K @ 5.6 with a 3090 at sub 1080p resolutions lol

cyberpunk gained 15% at 835p

cold war gained 2% at 960p

[plucky timber]

still

the headroom is nice to have

[earnest olive]

the 1070 is going to bottleneck too much for i3 vs i5 to matter, but i5 is nice for a bit of longevity

it'll be basically 0% difference with the 1070

[plucky timber]

yeah

that's what i was thinking of

in case he ever wanted to upgrade the gpu

[meager ibex]

She/They and I don't want to upgrade that until it becomes completely obsolete

[plucky timber]

i mean

[earnest olive]

1070 is still a decent gpu for 1080p60

[meager ibex]

It probably already is. But I am tight on money atm

[plucky timber]

it is more cost effective to upgrade to an i3 + newer generation motherboard for when you do want to upgrade

[earnest olive]

nah

1070 isn't obsolete yet

it's kind of on the edge

of course, obsolete or not depends on what games you play

but it's hanging onto the edge of relevancy for games coming out today

[meager ibex]

I am actually more into older games than newer ones. Yes, there are a couple? I like? But not too many

[earnest olive]

if you keep playing the same games for 6 years then the 1070 is as relevant as the day it came out

I just downgraded from a 3090 to a 1070 myself

I don't have much time to game these days, I just play some social games with friends that the 1070 is more than capable of running at 1440p max settings

[plucky timber]

i play hoi4

[empty pollen]

as the smelly fish said, better to upgrade mobo+cpu instead on your rig. it will be far better in the long term for upgradeability

[meager ibex]

I think what I'm gonna do.. is get the i3 combo when I can. But then after I move, upgrade again

[plucky timber]

300hz monitor and a 3070 wasted on a map game

or maybe get the i5

that's gonna be better if you plan on upgrading the gpu

[meager ibex]

what's the best combo for an i5?

Thats affordable at least

[plucky timber]

mushroom's i3 combo but swap out the i3 with an i5

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XJWbY9

something like this

[potent portal]

1650 and 1060 are still the most common GPUs used by gamers according to the Steam survey

[plucky timber]

what about 580 and 570

[potent portal]

You can find the full results here for specifics https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

580 is a little over 1%, 570 a little under

[meager ibex]

Hmm.. both those options are still beyond what I can afford right now. But I did save them for when I have a more steady income

Saving to move atm.. so I'm tight on money unfortunately

[potent portal]

When you're closer to being ready to buy come back and we'll give you up to date recommendations. Prices change frequently.

Feel free to hang out til then too

[meager ibex]

Thank you! I may go with the Ebay Used Motherboard for now because it's more affordable to do a hot swap of my current CPU

But once I move and settled, then I am gonna go for the i5 combo

[mossy venture]

I would def go for used, could find a 6600 sub 175 fairly easily I'd imagine

[meager ibex]

I just wanna be able to play my games and stream again

[potent portal]

By then A750 might be worth recommending too

[mossy venture]

Good point

Arc worth checking out

[meager ibex]

I appreciate the help. I will be needing help getting all the hardware programmed into the newer motherboard

that part... I am not too familiar with

Imma a hardware person verses a software lmao

As for a wifi adaptor. Would a USB wifi port work? Or should I get something stronger?

[potent portal]

A lot of motherboards come with wifi now

USB ones tend to overheat in my experience

[meager ibex]

They said one from Ebay would need an adaptor

https://www.ebay.com/itm/165943040270

That one

[frigid night]

I'd get a pcie wireless card.

[plucky timber]

pcie

[frigid night]

This is the one I grabbed for one of my PCs and it works good.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075SWSN32?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

[potent portal]

This would be good too, Wifi 6 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084P8KHMH

[frigid night]

Forgot the e. Lol

[plucky timber]

E

[meager ibex]

Okay saved both of those, thank you

[wet whale]

no worries
i put my answer in the software chat
but long story short i think theres an issue with the mobo because i swapped the mobo and cpu and had no issue with the install

[upper rock]

budget is fine i think. i can reimburse. im looking for a 14 inch mac that has a lot of performance into it. min spec is 32gb + 8 core is what im looking for. and I want to use 2 4K monitors connected with my laptop..

i have a macbook pro 16 inch 32gb + 8 core cpu now that gets slow when i connect a single 4K monitor

hence i want to upgrade it to a machine which works great

[young jay]

Does anyone know how I can get my mic to sound like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNWZTlGf0og

Ignore the RTX Topic.

[obsidian wigeon]

follow the guide?

you can't cancel out noise without rtx voice anyway

it's up to the mic's capabilities if you don't have that on

[young jay]

I do cancel out noise with RTX??

And I should clarify;

How do I remove sibilance like this man did?

[cyan ravine]

What mic you using

This might be a #peripherals-and-displays question btw

[fossil cedar]

Sibilance?

[cyan ravine]

Some mics are just beyond helping

But you can do a lot with noise suppression and voicemeeter

[fossil cedar]

That vid is quite old they might be using old Rtx voice instead of newer Nvidia broadcast noise cancellation too

[young jay]

I'm using a Blue Yeti and a Q2U. What does peripheral mean? Yes, sibilance. I don't use Voicemeeter, and barely use Noise Suppression. I don't think the sibilance of his mic is the way it is because of RTX Voice, hence the post I made at the end; "Ignore the RTX Topic".

[cyan ravine]

#peripherals-and-displays is a channel

People smarter there about this stuff

Blue yeti is an old mic unless it's a snowball

Iirc that can sound a little scuffed (been a while since I heard one)

So you want better plosives?

I'm not too familiar with a q2u

[fossil cedar]

As in s alliteration I'm confused what tou mean by sibilance in terms of mics

[cyan ravine]

Ah q2u is a second mic

[fossil cedar]

Yeti is supposed to be better than the snowball

And q2u is supposed to be really good afaik

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeti better than snowball? Ok

I think a step in the right direction is a mixer

If it's an older blue yeti tho...I wouldn't call those good by today's standards lol

[fossil cedar]

Well I've a snowball and i remember the yeti being like twice the price when buying lol

[cyan ravine]

My best guess is like, better muffling of the sound but still clear

If I remember what the yeti sounds like over USB

[fossil cedar]

I see

[upper rock]

can any one answer

[viral ore]

it sounds like you've answered your own question

go buy a macbook, its not like you have any options

that being said, why a laptop if youre using 2 4k monitors

just get a desktop mac that can actually handle that much monitor

you also need to make sure any software you use on the daily isnt x86 only, otherwise an M1/2 mac would struggle

[proven salmon]

Question should I combo the Rx 6650 xt with ryzen 5600x?

[obsidian wigeon]

just get the vanilla 5600

[viral ore]

5600 non x

[obsidian wigeon]

it has zero difference in perf

and easier to cool

[viral ore]

and cheaper

[proven salmon]

Alright thanks

[dim forge]

is it possible to stream at 720p with a 12100F and a 2060?

[obsidian wigeon]

easily

you can even do 1080p

[young jay]

I know it is a channel, you just said that. I was asking what peripherals actually means. I'll try and check it out. ? Blue Yeti is way better than the snowball. It doesn't sound scuffed at all lmao. I want less plosives, who would want more? Sibilance is the whistle sound in s', t's and z's. Yeah, Q2U was recommended to me by a verified server. Maybe I should try a mixer, but, the real problem is treating the mic, pre - processing. Bro, there is no such thing as old Blue Yeti's lmao. People love Blue Yeti's lmao. What I am looking for is complete removal of sibilance with minimal muffling. The Blue Yeti sounds great.

[earnest olive]

peripherals are just any part of your pc setup besides the pc itself

mic, headphones, mouse, keyboard, webcam, monitors

you could even call stuff like drawing tablets and printers peripherals tbh

[earnest olive]

but these are what people would be most commonly referring to with the word peripherals

[trail solstice]

whats a good 750 watt psu for 80 ish dollars

[obsidian wolf]

@potent portal

what part of the computer is being use the most when you are in a browser when designing in an app created for making maps?

[cyan ravine]

Asus tuf bronze

[young jay]

Thank you for telling me.

[fleet heron]

Everything is.

[limber oyster]

Question for y'all. How much would you pay for a 360mm watercooled Asus ROG Strix OC Gaming 3080RTX?

Realistically

Not try to advertise on here, just seeing what others see it as worth

With the original box as well

[stoic island]

For buying it, probably 600$

For selling it, you should probably try like 800$ to start, people like paying for strix tax

[limber oyster]

👍

[cyan ravine]

I'd say 600 is realistic for the 10gb

But yeah depends on what the market wants - strix is a buzz word

[limber oyster]

It is watercooled so I might try $8-900

[cyan ravine]

This is the eiswolf right?

[limber oyster]

Mhm

With active backplate as well

[cyan ravine]

Active?

I don't remember eiswolf being double sided

[limber oyster]

I added on the backplate

It works with the Eiswolf

[cyan ravine]

You mean the extra backplate yes? It's black?

[cyan ravine]

Oh actually active

My bad I didn't know

[limber oyster]

Run lines from the actual gpu block to the radiator, then from radiator to the backplate, and then from back plate to the GPU block again

Though I might put the passive one on when I sell it...

Makes it more "accommodating" for smaller cases

[cyan ravine]

Did it help at all?

Cos all the mem is on one side

Genuine question

[limber oyster]

Somewhat

I did run the passive, the black one, and it did get hot because the board does soak up some heat, but it wasn't a drastic difference especially performance wise

It's more of a aesthetic gimmick

[cyan ravine]

Hm

Oh wow they have one for the eagle

I'm gonna remember that for later I might have a use for it

Ironically my 3080 had more memory issues than my 3090 did for temps on a waterblock

[limber oyster]

I'm wanting to upgrade to a 4080 while the market for 3000 series are still viable

Last thing I want to do is wait too long and it be only worth $300 on resale

[empty pollen]

good luck on that one, ppl go to the used market to get cheap cards.... 800 for a used 3080 doesnt seem cheap to me 😦

50 so so more and they can score a 4070ti brand new... but good luck anyway

Im with felix and mr3.0 on this one.... 600 is doable even for a strix... 8-900 unlikely to happen but who knows

[upper rock]

what is the architecture for M1/2 mac?

[obsidian wigeon]

they're arm based chips

on macos arm is fairly well supported

besides you couldn't get intel macbooks anymore

[limber oyster]

Well part of that is the water cooler as well....that part isn't cheap and many cards don't have water blocks yet for the 4000 series, 4070ti especially

[empty pollen]

yeah im pretty sure of that, the problem will be to sell it using that to justify its price, as i said many will find hard to stomach 800+ on a used 3080... its a 2 year's old card by now

[austere condor]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/645430/lian-li-o11-dynamic-evo-tempered-glass-atx-mid-tower-computer-case-white

does anyone know if the O11 dynamic Evo comes with a vertical GPU mount in the box?

[south cliff]

I need help

[stoic island]

With

[south cliff]

Ok so my friend dropped his phone on his pc and now it says critical process died

I have the pc rn

[frigid night]

It does not come with one.

I was hoping mine did, but nope.

[vague junco]

Hello. First time PC builder. Looking for a review on my build for mid-end gaming PC. Not planning to run anything crazy or a lot of streaming. I am mostly concerned with the ancilliary items I will need such as tools, cables, etc. to connect everything and confirming my build is appropriate (cost efficient & powerful). Any insight would be appreciated or resources. Thanks! https://newegg.io/2eca7f0

[fossil cedar]

you can do way better for your budget, ill put together a list, what do you mean by ancillary by the way?

also do you need wifi or bluetooth?

[vague junco]

Thanks! OK, open to any advice or suggestions. I'm unsure on the cables or connections I'll need to buy separately if they aren't provided. Most of the videos I've watched don't really mention it. Wifi and bluetooth would be nice. Will likely be hardwired most of the time for internet. Bluetooth would be nice to have for headset potentially.

[fossil cedar]

okay so, you can definitely cut this down a lot in price and still be great, this is a very high end build, also you can leave windows not activated or get it for like 20$ on key sites
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jtypcb

[vague junco]

I just swapped the case as well to the Lian Li as I like it alot but it's more expensive. https://newegg.io/2eca7f0

[fossil cedar]

just realised one of the items in the list i gave you is out of stock actually one sec

[vague junco]

Thank you! Would you mind explaining some of the changes & reasoning behind them if you had time?

[fossil cedar]

with in stock gpu: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/76Zx3y

[fossil cedar]

sure, so motherboard just has wifi and stuff included, the ram is a lot faster, the p41 plus has random speeds honestly better than the 980 pro, which is what will be used day to day by the OS, the 7900 xtx is equivalent to a 4080 its a way better graphics card, the case is just better value and the RM850e is just a cheaper version of the RMX, the screen i put is 1440p rather than 1080p, keychron make nicer keyboards for cheaper and the XM1r is a very good mouse too, the ls720 over the lt720 is just because its cheaper and they perform the same and the 13700k was just because you had the budget for it

but you can do a way cheaper build and get pretty close in performance

also the g360a comes with fans whereas the o11 does not

as for UPS i dont know much about those so ye

like here is an example on how you can drop the price 300$ and hardly see an impact https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CFLrFg

[vague junco]

Thanks so much, I will take a look at all of this again and review. I appreciate it!

What about DDR4 vs DDR5 for memory? thoughts?

[potent portal]

DDR4 actively hurts 13th gen Intel performance by as much as 10% on the 13600k, even more as you go higher tier

[vague junco]

So I'd want to stick with DDR5 then

[vague junco]

I've also never heard of some of the brands on there which is likely why I selected the others

[fossil cedar]

It depends tbh when you're spending 100$ more for ddr5 I'm not sure it's exactly worth it

That's fine solidgigm for example only released drives very recently but it's owned by sk hynix which you might have heard of

[vague junco]

Gotcha. Thanks for the info!

[hardy tiger]

anyone got info on if ddr5 at 6000 hz is better at cl 30-40-40-96 or 32-38-38-96. this is gonna be for the 7950x3d

[cyan ravine]

Either kit is fine and also wait for reviews

6000 is not guaranteed on 2ccd Zen 4 afaik

[vague junco]

So any advice on if I will need to purchase any additional cables for connecting all my components, or will all the parts come with them?

[potent portal]

6000 runs, it's 6400+ that gets iffy

[potent portal]

Depends on the components you purchase. If it's that list from pato then the only thing you might need is a kettle lead for the power supply to the wall. PSU manufacturers have stopped giving those out because basically everyone has spares these days and you can get one from a thrift store for 50 cents.

[fossil cedar]

Really I've heard that interesting

[humble fossil]

This better than, this

This

??

Gddr6x

[humble fossil]

and have 2
8 pin ports

[vague oracle]

Difference between the 3 of them is less than 5%

What are the prices on the three?

[humble fossil]

idk

[vague oracle]

Bruh

[cyan ravine]

Gaming at 55c for like the 3rd time ever

[empty pollen]

to be fair, the one with gddr6x is like 10% increase, is on par with the 3070

[humble fossil]

so it’s better than the other edition’s ?

[empty pollen]

the gx yes

6x

[humble fossil]

Ok thx :)

[vague oracle]

Really? Benchmarks I’ve seen shown it within 5% of a 3060ti

[empty pollen]

there are 2 versions

3060ti with gddr6 and gddr6x

[strong raft]

Depends much on the core clocks also. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-3060-ti-gets-few-benefits-from-gddr6x-says-reviewer

[leaden raft]

Do people not all run like two hdmi cables and a display port out the back of their graphics card? Is there some sort of splitter or doc for multiple monitor setup

[analog hearth]

DP to HDMI adapters exist

[shrewd nova]

is this good for 160€?

[mellow dove]

thoughts https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V6yXcb?

[mossy venture]

Psu is overpriced, and I'd probably opt for a larger case if you have the space for one.

Aside from that looks good

[mellow dove]

i do not

[mossy venture]

Unsure on the mobo

[mellow dove]

my cousin says the psu needs a 16 pin

which this doesnt seem to have

[mossy venture]

There are adapters

[mellow dove]

that's what i though

yeah the mobo is giving a warning

[mossy venture]

Here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cmrRsY/super-flower-leadex-v-pro-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-1000f14tg

Just as good of a psu for less

[mellow dove]

but what does additional space past the last case expansion slot is needed means

[mossy venture]

The mobo will run a 13700k

[mellow dove]

the error is for the gpu

[mossy venture]

I'm not sure

[mellow dove]

hmm

[mossy venture]

Oh

The gpu won't fit

Once it's in the pcie slot, it will be too thick

Well

The pcie area on the gpu will be above the pcie slot, with the gpu touching the bottom of the case (I think, I could be wrong)

Someone else would know better

Calling @fossil cedar or @cyan ravine

[mellow dove]

also psu is a no go in my country cant find it

[mossy venture]

Ahhhh

Then get the cheapest A tier 1000w psu from the tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

What country are you in?

[mellow dove]

saudi arabia

[mossy venture]

Ahh that makes sense

[mellow dove]

new egg and amazon ship to it but not everything

[mossy venture]

I'll be back in a bit

I gotta shower

[mellow dove]

ok thanks for the advice so far lol

switched the mobo and the error went away https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pzYHyK

[mossy venture]

Ds3h def not enough for a 13700k though

[mellow dove]

ds3h?

[mossy venture]

The new mobo

[mellow dove]

oh the mobo lol

why not

[mossy venture]

Cpu power delivery

Vrms

For gaming it'd probably be fine, but multi core loads you'd likely run into vrm throttling

[mellow dove]

ok

[mellow dove]

what am i looking for in the specs

[mossy venture]

Just link the reasonably priced b760s/z790s/z690s here that work and I'll lyk which ones would be a good option

Pretty much every z790 works

[mellow dove]

no matx 790s i can find

a lot of 600s tho

or 760s

[mossy venture]

Z690s?

[mellow dove]

yes

[mossy venture]

Most z690s would work, as long as it has a bios flash button

[mellow dove]

ill try amd then since no mobos

[mellow dove]

hopefully final revision?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tPzNC6

[mossy venture]

Is 7900 same price as 13700k for you?

If so that works

[mellow dove]

well new issue is the rad and psu combo wont fit ;-;

[mossy venture]

Check price on ak620/ag620

Or if a 280mm aio would work, liquid freezer ii

[earnest olive]

why these ssds

do you just already have them

[mellow dove]

theyre what i have already

[earnest olive]

you have the case already too?

you should mark parts you already have as purchased

[mellow dove]

only things i have are the gpu and ssds

[earnest olive]

psu kinda bad for price

are you like dead set on this case

[mellow dove]

smallest case i can find to fit the gpu

its this or nr200p

but that seems like an oven

and trouble finding 1000w sfx

i move a lot i need the smallest case possible

[potent portal]

SFF and high capacity don't really mix

[mellow dove]

i guess the ak620 could work

[potent portal]

The ones that exist have a lot of coil whine and potential for transient load shutdown

[earnest olive]

7900X is like $4 more, would get that

and an rm850e to replace that psu

[mellow dove]

theres an msi 1000w same length

if ur recommending based on length

[earnest olive]

no, the one you put there is incredibly overpriced

and you don’t need 1000w

good 850w is more than enough here

[mellow dove]

for me its more expensive than the asus

[earnest olive]

but if you want 1000w still better options

are you not in the US?

[mellow dove]

i am not

[earnest olive]

cause you’re using US pcpartpicker

what country then

[mellow dove]

saudi arabia

[earnest olive]

country is pretty important

[mellow dove]

i have to find psus locally because newegg shipping for psu is ridiculous af

[earnest olive]

yeah I also don’t see any psu options available on saudi pcpp lmao

[mellow dove]

im looking at amazon saudi for psus

finding them on ne first lol

[earnest olive]

7900 and 7900x still close enough in price to go for 7900x

[mellow dove]

im getting the 7900x

did i put the wrong one in pcpp?

oh yeah i did

so other than the price the psu is fine?

[earnest olive]

https://sa.pcpartpicker.com/list/hVXvJM

psu is fine, but idk what pricing is like for you