building-and-recc-chat

[cyan ravine]

Probably the cheapest board you can find tbh

[little osprey]

so asrock h610m-hdv

[cyan ravine]

Celeron's and Pentium's aren't exactly much lower power

[little osprey]

lol

[cyan ravine]

Yeah probs

[little osprey]

Ye

Does anyone know the difference between the HDV and HVS version

[cyan ravine]

Compare the vrms tho, see if you can see one with a lot more for maybe $5?

[little osprey]

yeah i think the gigabyte one might have more

u ok

Lol

You're having a fun time

[elfin flame]

STFU = shut the felix up

Anytime i say stfu to felix from now on

[little osprey]

Bruh does this board not have m.2

[cyan ravine]

[cyan ravine]

I see an m.2 below the lga socket no?

B660m ds3h yes?

[strong raft]

Hopefully that's not just a wifi m.2 spot though.

[cyan ravine]

Pretty sure it's an m.2 2280 slot?

[strong raft]

I was looking at another pic. Yea that b660 definitely has 2 m.2 slots.

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah I see a second one lol

[little osprey]

I accidentally had a different board selected

the assrock one

[earnest olive]

any mitx or larger board not having an m.2 slot in 2022 should be illegal

m.2 is already an ancient standard by now

[sweet cargo]

See thats the thing its mostly for gaming from mw2 to forza horizon as for resolution i have no idea lol like i said this is my vary first gaming pc

The cpu i was gonna use is the intel i3-12100 12th gen

Between 600-700

[little osprey]

Looking for a new CPU fan, looking for something decent and enough for a possible i5 or i7 in the future but not overkill for now with my i3

[sweet cargo]

Yea i live in the US

[earnest olive]

12100 is a great choice for a 600-700 budget

in the US

ryzen doesn't really have meaningful competition

[little osprey]

Ad far as budget end stuff goes or just in general for price to performance ratio?

[earnest olive]

this doesn't really exist

[little osprey]

Nothing around $30 that would be enough for a future i5 or i7?

[earnest olive]

"enough for a raptor lake i5" is basically a 240mm aio or nh-d15 class air cooler bare minimum

[sweet cargo]

So next question should i go air cooled or water cooled

[earnest olive]

even 360mm aios are a bit weak for raptor lake i7

if you really want a cooler upgrade, grab an se-214-xt for the looks and prepare to upgrade again along with your cpu upgrade

[little osprey]

Alright I'll check it out, I appreciate the help and advice

[earnest olive]

it's a $20 cooler with argb

it's also laughably overkill for the i3

but even the stock cooler does a great job on the i3

so pretty much anything you upgrade to will be overkill

upgrading for looks/noise is fine if he wants to spend the money

but

there's no such thing as a cooler that's enough for an upgrade that's not overkill on the i3

[sweet cargo]

So this is my build list

• [ ] Intel Core i3-12100F - Core i3 12th Gen Alder Lake Quad-Core 3.3 GHz LGA 1700 58W Desktop Processor - BX8071512100F

• [ ] MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 LGA 1700 Intel B660 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

• [ ] Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model TLZRD416G3600HC18JDC01

• [ ] ASRock Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RX6600 CLD 8G

• [ ] DeepCool MATREXX 40 with Full-size Tempered Glass Side Panel, High Airflow Cooling, and Removable Drive Cage Micro ATX/Mini ITX Tower Case

• [ ] CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM750x CP-9020199-NA 750 W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply

• [ ] Team Group MP33 M.2 2280 1TB PCIe 3.0 x4 with NVMe 1.3 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) TM8FP6001T0C101

[earnest olive]

you don't want to know how much money i've wasted on making my pc look pretty rommy

psu is laughably overkill

also, use pcpartpicker instead of text wall

also that case looks pretty bad

i'm putting together a list rn

12100f is a superior gaming cpu

by a pretty wide margin

i'd just go the 12100f if it's for pure gaming

the upgrade path is also roughly equivalent

[little osprey]

I would prefer no RGB around there, but I can still do that

https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Heatpipes-Installation-RR-H412-20PK-R2/dp/B076MQBZ2L/ref=asc_df_B076MQBZ2L/?

What about this?

[earnest olive]

inferior cooler to the se-214-xt

rgb can be turned off btw lol

[little osprey]

Oh

Wait really?

[cyan ravine]

Cpu, case and psu are way out of balance on this list

[earnest olive]

what's wrong with the cpu?

[little osprey]

I would've thought it was wired to be on all the time

[cyan ravine]

Nothing except probably can afford better by fixing the other two

[earnest olive]

12100f + rx 6600 is a good pairing

[cyan ravine]

Never said that

[little osprey]

I would think so too, those were my initial plans

[cyan ravine]

Spending a lot on the psu albeit a good practice doesn't make sense over a semi decent case and cpu if that's a possibility

Take for instance a 5600 non x and an msi b550m vc

Which would be better

For a similar price if things haven't shifted much the last few weeks

[earnest olive]

i'd rather push leftover budget towards gpu

12100f + 6600xt is fine

is it just me or are power supply prices looking pretty grim right now

🤨

[sweet cargo]

I alrady ordered the case

[stable knoll]

hey guys, my 7900xt is having issues with crashing on witcher 3 and spider man, any solutions to this? ive tried just about everything but i think it might be a faulty card or i need to wait for new drivers. thanks!

[earnest olive]

all the non fire hazard power supplies are pretty high price

[earnest olive]

cancel it

[mossy venture]

would rather do smthn like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rbkFnt

also yeah psu prices suck atm

[earnest olive]

uhhh

i don't think an 850 df belongs in this build

[mossy venture]

cheapest A tier 750 is $100 and 650 is $80

and no b tier for cheaper

[earnest olive]

i'm saying in the context of a $700 build

all the budget power supplies seem to have disappeared

cheapest b tier i see is the silverstone essential gold 550w for $70

[mossy venture]

i miss asus tuf 550 for $50

[cyan ravine]

I think it's worth getting 2 more cores in a 700$ build

[little osprey]

@earnest olive, stupid question but could I buy the CPU fan you suggested and keep the heat pipes thing but slap on a non-RGB 120mm fan?

[earnest olive]

i mean sure

but like

why

just turn off the rgb or don't even plug it in lol

[little osprey]

I was just curious

I think my board can only support three fans and one CPU fan

[earnest olive]

i'd do this but change the psu to the essential gold 550

imo

uhhh what

[mossy venture]

didn't see that one, if it's higher than c tier i agree

[little osprey]

Soooo, RGB stays on?

[cyan ravine]

This makes a lot more sense for 12100f

[earnest olive]

i don't know what kind of se-214-xt you

[sweet cargo]

Why should i cancel it?

[earnest olive]

got

but i've bought like 5 of them

and all of them have had separate cables

[cyan ravine]

Using a msi pro is overkill on that cpu

[earnest olive]

the fan on it is just a standard id-cooling xf12025 argb

BRUH

LOL

[earnest olive]

bad case

fractal design focus g is at a pretty nice price rn

[cyan ravine]

Mattrexx isn't the greatest case

[little osprey]

Also another question, I could probably Google this but what's the best way to clean off thermal paste and do you guys have a preference one thermal paste?

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pkjtY9 $708.40

[cyan ravine]

I mean, a case is a case tho if you wanna min max

[earnest olive]

if you want to minmax budget just use ol reliable

cardboard box

cases are optional components

if you want a case at least get one that's not an oven

[mossy venture]

or just buy used

[earnest olive]

but hey, at least it looks better than an h510

[little osprey]

Still curious if you guys have a suggestion foe thermal paste or if it even matters that much

[cyan ravine]

I mean sure, but we could revisit that whole, H510 working with low power parts discussion again, lol

[earnest olive]

i just buy bulk mx-4

[mossy venture]

mx-4 pog

[little osprey]

Alrighty

[earnest olive]

h510 costs infinite times as much as cardboard box case and performs worse

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[earnest olive]

speaking of not having a case

my new test bench still needs a name

what am i naming her

[cyan ravine]

H510

[little osprey]

Is there any specific way to clean thermal paste off or can I just wipe it off a paper towel or something?

[earnest olive]

no h510 chipset 😦

is b450

[little osprey]

Doo Doo Fart 3D

[earnest olive]

isopropyl alcohol preferred

paper towel can work

[little osprey]

Put that on the paper towel or a rag or what would be best?

[earnest olive]

paper towel

don't use anything to wipe thermal paste that you plan to reuse

getting thermal paste on your shirt is not fun

[little osprey]

Alrighty, do I need to take the CPU out at all?

Tasty 🤤

Poisonous but tasty

[earnest olive]

no

unless you're on ryzen then the cpu gets to decide

but you're on intel so no

[little osprey]

So this shouldn't be too hard changing the CPU fan then

[earnest olive]

no

[little osprey]

I overthought this

[earnest olive]

the only difficult part of pc building is when you get a defective part

troubleshooting is not fun

[little osprey]

Yeah...

[earnest olive]

especially when you have no idea which part is defective and there's a chance for a defective part to kill a working part

[little osprey]

Silicon Power SSD...

[earnest olive]

i've used a few silicon power ssds without issues

[little osprey]

Anyways, do they sell just the heatsink itself or do they all come with the fan?

[earnest olive]

comes with fan

[little osprey]

Hmmm, alright I just thought I could've just got the heatsink and got a 120mm fan of my choice

God damn I hate typing on mobile

[earnest olive]

i mean you can swap the fan if you want to

there's just not really a reason to do so

[little osprey]

Yeah, I dunno

[earnest olive]

if you hate rgb so much leave it unplugged

[little osprey]

Yeah, I don't hate it, just not preferred in that spot

I'm gonna get a $25 three pack of Phanteks DRGB fans to match my case

I like the purple lights and black case color scheme

[earnest olive]

nothing is stopping you from setting the cpu fan to purple

[little osprey]

Seems dangerous depending on how you cut it

[cyan ravine]

Shouldn't be cutting anything to change to purple

Yes, dangerous

[little osprey]

Sooo, SE-214-XT and a three pack of PH-F120SK's

Trying to think of any other small improvements I can do

Oh grab MX-4 too

[mossy venture]

how much is that 3 pack?

[little osprey]

$25

[mossy venture]

you want them to be rgb or do you not care?

[little osprey]

I like the mix of purple and blue

So yes I would prefer the case fans to have lighting and not the CPU cooler

[mossy venture]

kk

that's fine then

was gonna say if not p12 5 pack is a good choice

[little osprey]

I'm contemplating if I wanna grab a forth 120mm fan that's not lighted and replace the RGB fan on the SE-214-XT

[mossy venture]

there is no point

as you've been told by three people

[little osprey]

Yeah, don't plug it in or cut it if I don't want it dangling

I just kinda wish there was some Arctic Liquid Freezer II B-stock in stock

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3

[little osprey]

I came across that, looks simple and I like that

[little osprey]

Will I have to take out the motherboard to install the bracket or can I take the non-glass panel off the case and do it that way?

How much?

Hmmm, at that point I'd go brand new

[obsidian wigeon]

brand new is much more expensive

like around 100 for 280?

or more

ye

[little osprey]

If I were to mount it on the roof of a P300A, would I go with a 240mm or a 280mm?

[obsidian wigeon]

might as well save and get b stock

b-stock is just an rma'd unit

or returned

[cyan ravine]

Save up for a better cpu first, then consider an aio

Hell, even a contact frame would do wonders

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

(out of context but worth mentioning)

[little osprey]

For the new CPU fan would anyone know?

I really don't wanna have to take the motherboard out

[obsidian wigeon]

you don't have to remove mobo from the case

just take off backplate and stuff

[little osprey]

That's a relief 😅

[little osprey]

Uhhh, no clue what that is

This is gonna be more complicated than I thought

[obsidian wigeon]

it's on the back of mobo

the other side panel

[little osprey]

One sec

NVM it's not what I thought it was

I feel like I'm putting myself through too much trouble for some upgrades that won't effect performance once so ever

Should I reconsider?

The case fans are at most what I need

I think I'm just impressed with what other people are able to do cosmetically with their PC's on a budget and mine just looks bland

[dim forge]

Is an h610 too bad for an itx build with 12400?

[obsidian wigeon]

i would try to go for b660 at least

[dim forge]

Me too, but b660 itx are rather expensive, I can't find any good deal on amazon hmm

might have to buy on newegg and ship it through a parcel locker

My 2060 already arrived like two weeks ago and I'm testing it on a friend setup before the amazon warranty expires, but I still need to buy the mobo/cpu and the sfx psu

If anything, I guess I'll just get a normal build with a mid tower and just ship it when I travel

[analog pulsar]

What's the difference between G360A and P400A and P500A

[frigid night]

The names.

[analog pulsar]

Omg

[analog pulsar]

Bruh

[analog pulsar]

It's only $7000

[limber oyster]

God my self control sucks. I almost wiped my bank by buying a video card for my next build

[analog pulsar]

what card

[limber oyster]

Gigabyte Eagle 6650xt

[languid nimbus]

Oh yeah I saw that video, the pc baaarely fit in that pelican case

[analog pulsar]

Ikr haha

[rotund drift]

Hi! Very newbie here. My son and I just built a gaming PC, using a B550M Aorus Elite motherboard among other things. We were able to load Windows 11 but can't connect to the internet via wifi; it doesn't show any wifi connections available. Did we have to buy some kind of wifi card or something? If not, how do we connect? I have searched but haven't found any solutions online. TIA

[obsidian wigeon]

which exact model is the motherboard?

gigabyte boards with wifi usually says AC or AX on their name

indicating to wifi standard

[fossil cedar]

Yeah most motherboards unless wifi or ac or ax is in the name do not include a wifi/Bluetooth chip

In that case you'd ideally want an ax2000 wifi pcie card or something along those lines for a good experience another good option is poweline

[little osprey]

Just a quick question, when you say you were able to load Windows 11 setup or you had the actual OS installed itself?

I have a board with wifi and I was unable to start the installation because it required a connection and I was unable to utilize my board's wifi without the drivers, I was able to get around this however so LMK if that's the case

If your board does have on board wifi you'll need to install the wifi drivers I belive to utilize it

[viscid tapir]

There is vedio in youtube you get into your home screen without internet

U need to go to cmd

I did the same thing yesterday

[little osprey]

Yeah I was able to get around it with command prompt

[viscid tapir]

U need to do the same command multiple times

[little osprey]

I got Windows 11 installed now I just thought it might be worth saying you'd need to install wifi drivers if your board has on board wifi

[viscid tapir]

https://youtu.be/LLLY3Eq90W0

[little osprey]

Or like what Pato said you could get a wifi card for PCIe

[viscid tapir]

If you have motherboard with wifi

U don't need any extra cards

Go to the website of your motherboard

Make sure it's the exact one

And you can find lot of driver's over there

[little osprey]

Well I know that I'm just saying for the dude asking above

Their system isn't letting them connect to the wifi and we don't know if their board has on board wifi

[viscid tapir]

Ohhh

[little osprey]

If it does it might just be the lack of drivers

[viscid tapir]

Ohh

I built my pc couple of days back

And after that i changed some settings of fan in bios

And now it's staying

Pc case is not closed

Fatal error

What should i do now

[little osprey]

What specific settings did you change?

[viscid tapir]

Enabled on of The fan

Now i can't even enter intlo bios

[little osprey]

Hmmmm, unsure someone else might have to help you

[viscid tapir]

Nothing in the YouTube helping me

[little osprey]

i5-8400, GTX950, 16 GB ram
which one of these could I upgrade to make the overall system better?

[limber oyster]

Gtx950

[little osprey]

ty, any recommendations for smth better?

[limber oyster]

Budget?

[languid nimbus]

^

[limber oyster]

6600xt or a 6650xt might be a good budget upgrade

If you're looking for best of the best 7900XTX or a 4090 RTX

[little osprey]

$200, at what point would my cpu be the bottleneck?

[languid nimbus]

hmmm, kinda limited at $200

[limber oyster]

At $350 you can do a 6650xt

[languid nimbus]

Yeah ^

[limber oyster]

At 1080p your i5-8th gen is still pretty decent

[little osprey]

got it ty :)

[languid nimbus]

there’s a 6600xt for $289 on newegg

[limber oyster]

My younger brother ran a i5-9th gen at 1080p 60hz for a while

He also ran a 1050ti and 16gb ram

[little osprey]

I’ll probably sell the 950 on ebay

[limber oyster]

Yeah, sell the 950 and get a 6600xt

A MSI 6600 should run around $209 on Amazon if you want the absolute minimum

[mossy venture]

6650xt*

Same price as 6600xt

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[fresh gulch]

Hi. I’m trying to decide between Intel 12th and 13th gen. How important is the “Intel Threat Detection Technology”! Very curious about why 12 has it but not 13.

[limber oyster]

Not very.....

From my understanding it's antivirus built into the CPU bios....

I could be wrong

[empty pollen]

not much to decide anyway, 13th gen is way superior over 12th gen

[stoic island]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-threat-detection-technology-tdt-gpu-offloading,36911.html
It just basically just accelerates antivirus from what I can tell

Just grab 13th gen when possible for performance gains

[fresh gulch]

I’m a huge fan of good defense, and improved virus protection seems like a good thing.

[stoic island]

It's just making your antivirus run faster from what I can tell

And the main useful part of it is available for 13th gen still.
"Intel processors from the 6th-gen (Skylake) and beyond will be able to perform Advanced Memory Scanning."

[fresh gulch]

I’m only playing FIFA and opening links on Fark.com. Not certain if I really need 13th gen enough to give up better virus protection

[stoic island]

It's not better virus protection

And it's most likely still included in 13th gen

It's just not noteworthy enough for them to put it on the spec page

[fresh gulch]

Not according to they website

[cyan ravine]

There are more than one way to skin a cat if you want hardware security

[fresh gulch]

I like cats.

[cyan ravine]

Me too

[fresh gulch]

So don’t skin them

[cyan ravine]

Focus on the performance tho

[fresh gulch]

Maybe it’s the fear unlucky number 13 that’s holding me back

[cyan ravine]

Which 13th?

[fresh gulch]

13th gen

[cyan ravine]

Which

Which cpu

[fresh gulch]

i5 13600

[cyan ravine]

Which isn't a bad buy at all rn

[fresh gulch]

I’m referring to 13th floor superstition

[cyan ravine]

Lol

Differences between 12th and 13th more boil down to higher clocks, more L2 cache and more e cores

The cache gain makes a big difference though

[fresh gulch]

It’s all about the L2

The L2 is more powerful than superstition. Maybe if the cast Schwarzenegger as L2 and he defeats 13, than maybe I wouldn’t be so nervous

[obsidian wigeon]

lol what

Anyway, yeah 13th gen is easily better

It's just a number, the cpu won't take your pc down or anything

[fresh gulch]

Okay. Guess I’ll just have to deal with the bios updates

[obsidian wigeon]

Shouldn't be a problem if the board has bios flashback

Z690?

okay that's good then

[fresh gulch]

Only problem with pro-a is there’s no optical out for sound, and I need that

Would you recommend MAG Tomahawk or MPG Carbon?

[stoic island]

All are good

[fresh gulch]

Thank you. I will now comfortably embrace the 13600.

[south cliff]

How do I know if people are legit

On Reddit

How do I check if they message me

[little osprey]

This should be in the top right of your screen

on web client at least

lmao my one unread is from droq 😂

[oak jay]

I just installed more ram in my pc and it blue screens when I try and so really anything in a game.

It’s the same exact ram, just double the amount

[mossy venture]

Likely too much for the imc, disable xmp

[oak jay]

Alright

It’s current just stuck on a black screen so I assume I should hold the power button to turn it off since pressing it normally isn’t working

[mossy venture]

Yeah

[south cliff]

Like their trades and profile on r/hardware swap

How

[little osprey]

https://www.amazon.com/quiet-BK030-Pure-Rock-Cooler/dp/B08YRN1621/ref=asc_df_B08YRN1621/?
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-MX-4-2019-Performance-Durability/dp/B07L9BDY3T/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?
https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-Control-Supports-Cooling-FH-04/dp/B07LGWHHXV/ref=sr_1_4?
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-SK120-DRGB-PWM-3Pack-PH-F120SK_DRGB_PWM_3P/dp/B08C2KCN2K/ref=sr_1_3?

Thoughts on some small upgrades for my PC?

[cyan ravine]

Mx4 and the deepcool fan hub I can vouch for are good

[ripe spear]

CPU cooler just get the AK400 and fans just get the P14's

[little osprey]

Well the reason I chose the Phanteks fan pack is because I only need three and they have the purple and blue lighting preset that I love and I thought it'd match my case well

But I'll look into that CPU cooler, I'd just like a CPU cooler without any lights

Oh wait

AK400 doesn't have lights

Dope

[ripe spear]

Well P14's is a 5 pack for 40$ and are 140mm

[little osprey]

Bit more pricey but I think the extra $15 will be worth it in the long term

[ripe spear]

Those you picked is 3 120mm for 34$

[little osprey]

But they have lights

[ripe spear]

And as mentioned earlier in gen chat is if your fans would have any issues you'd have back ups

[little osprey]

That is true

Hmmmm

[ripe spear]

If you want lights you can always just buy something like this https://www.amazon.com/GIM-Compatible-Magnetic-Addressable-Gigabyte/dp/B0899P2SBD/

[little osprey]

I'll think about it but I'm leaning more towards the Phanteks case fans, but I'll definitely do the CPU cooler you suggested

[little osprey]

Well the thing is Igot some LED strip lights as a stocking stuffer and have no clue what to use them for 😅

How do those stick?

I'm not a bit fan of adhesive as far as electronics go

[ripe spear]

With the adhesive that would be on it

[little osprey]

Hmmmmm

[ripe spear]

If my case didn't come with RGB fans already i would of used P12's and P14's with RGB light strips

[little osprey]

I'll look into the P12's and P14's but I'd be paying for something I partly wouldn't use

[ripe spear]

Your system does 140mm for the front and top which i would just stick to the P14's

Also 140mm you can have the fans run slower and it would still cool good while being pretty quiet

This is all my fans in my system right now which everything is quite cool

Only the CPU cooler is running a little over 1000RPM

Also i have my own fan curve so the fans does go up when needed and when gaming they're still quiet

[little osprey]

But didn't someone say they aren't PWM?

[ripe spear]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P14-Value-Pack-Pressure-optimised/dp/B07HCKWF2X/ PWM

and mine are PWM that i am using

[little osprey]

So that pack is $40 USD right?

[ripe spear]

yes

[little osprey]

Hmmmm, I might throw in the extra $5 and make use of my LED strip lights I have no plans for

[upper ore]

Am i supposed to be able to hear the liquid somewhat when it goes through my pump. Which im guessing is the part mounted to my cpu. Because it sounds kinda weird not bad weird but like i havent heard it until i cranked up my pump settings on fan controller.

[little osprey]

Custom loop?

[upper ore]

Nah

Its the galahad 360 and i had to set the pump speed to max to keep my cpu cool when i play some games

[little osprey]

Hmmmm, I'm unsure but I'd do some research into some things that could wrong and try to compare it to what's happening to yours

[viral plank]

good pc to run gta5 and warzone and stream warzone

2500

[cyan ravine]

XTX time

Warzone likes the AMDeez nuts

[viral plank]

mostly pre built more open to both

[gentle pollen]

Thanks.

[viral plank]

i heard that 1440 lowers fps idk much about pc stuff

[gentle pollen]

After I upgrade my system's cpu/gpu and move back to china I will look into getting a better monitor.

[earnest olive]

wz2 is pretty demanding isn't it? like you can stress a 4090 with it

[gentle pollen]

The higher the resolution the more horse power your gpu needs to run fast to put it simply.

[earnest olive]

not that you need a 4090 obviously

but it'll take whatever power you give it

well of course

gta v runs on a potato

but you gotta design the pc around the hardest game to run

here's an oc'ed 250W 3070 at 1080p in mw2 benchmark

[gentle pollen]

I just realized, I can reuse my PX240 monitor as a 3rd one once I get back to china and order another monitor.

[earnest olive]

i'd imagine wz2 would demand a bit more out of cpu than mw2

the 4770k probably wouldn't hold up nearly as well lol

[viral plank]

oaky

1440 i guess

[gentle pollen]

what's your budget?

Do you want to use every dollar and max out the build's performance or would you rather keep it lower and sacrafice some perf.

I know.

[viral plank]

yea

[gentle pollen]

So, $2500 for a entire setup?

[south cliff]

Should I get a 6800 for 400?

[gentle pollen]

peripherals, monitor, and pc. Correct?

[south cliff]

Used

[viral plank]

monitor and pc perfer got evething else

[gentle pollen]

Aight.

Let me see what I can whip up real quick. You wanted 1440p yes?

Any preferred size of screen?

[elfin flame]

13600K + 6900xt probably.

6900xt goes for like $700-$800 new average right now.

[viral plank]

not really

like to connect to my wifi yea

[gentle pollen]

Oh, any case preferences?

[viral plank]

naw

i perfer air but im open to anything as long as it nice and good and can the most performance

[gentle pollen]

Oh, black or white colors?

[analog pulsar]

@gentle pollen whats the other pc case for

[gentle pollen]

It's for my 13th gen upgrade once parts arrive.

[analog pulsar]

oh nice

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8m6p99/msi-pro-z790-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-a-wifi z790 is like $270

ye

z690 tho is nice

[gentle pollen]

👀 THERE'S A 4090 AT MSRP ON NEWEGG?!

[analog pulsar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/K9Fbt6/msi-pro-z690-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-wifi $230 with Wifi
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qnwypg/msi-pro-z690-a-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a $206 without wifi

[gentle pollen]

Asus Tuf 4090 OC.

[south cliff]

Is 400 for a used 6800 good

[gentle pollen]

Is the XFX Speedster Merc 310 7900xt good?

Gotcha, cuz I found it at a decent price.

[analog pulsar]

i was just showing for context and if person wants too buy one they can click link

[gentle pollen]

and it looks a lot cleaner than the gigabyte one.

[sacred knot]

Hey i need a bit of help on #electronics if anyone can

[next tangle]

I installed a new graphics card into my brothers computer and I’m getting a post when I turn it on, yet after the post I just get a black screen

Any help?

[gentle pollen]

@viral plank how much storage do you want/need?

[viral plank]

1tb

[mossy venture]

Imo I'd spend $10 more for 6000c36

[south cliff]

Is 400 for a used 6800 a good price?

[mossy venture]

Yes

[next tangle]

Yes i can take a photo

The lights and fans for the gpu are on

[mossy venture]

Also rommy, what's the diff between the -p and -a?

For mobo

[next tangle]

Yup

I’m sending a video right now

I couldn’t show much 😭

?

[viral plank]

so i couldt find the ram on amazon and storage

@elfin flame

[next tangle]

What should I do then?

Ohhh okay sorry

There’s some black part of the pcie that’s showing on the gpu

But the yellow part is fully in the pcie slot

[gentle pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DccQ2m

@viral plank here ya go.

Monitor + pc.

[next tangle]

Got you

[gentle pollen]

I figured for future proofing.

Usually can reuse the lf2.

So if he upgrades in a year or two, that's covered.

Oh, did you send your list?

lemme try and change a couple things real quick.

[next tangle]

Here’s the pcie

[mossy venture]

Ah ok

[gentle pollen]

I need to go, but it seems you have the parts figured out.

[mossy venture]

My 13600k sits under 55c with a 280mm in gaming

[gentle pollen]

Have a good day peeps.

[viral plank]

so witch one is good

[gentle pollen]

Why does Discord keep suggesting that I gift someone a year of Nitro?!

[mossy venture]

Because discord likes money

Yeah I got it

[cyan ravine]

Breakfast yumm

Zup

ZUP

ZUPPP

[mossy venture]

Something like thishttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/ymqYC6

Have a good night

[south cliff]

What is a good psu 750w or 850

[viral plank]

can u send me both of list in my dms from jesundo and apez

[next tangle]

@elfin flame I tried reseating it and it’s the same problem

[cyan ravine]

@mossy venture https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nMPQzy/xfx-rx-79tmbabf9-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-rx-79tmbabf9

[mossy venture]

Missed that

[mossy venture]

D.f atm

$7 more than the cheapest good quality 750

[fossil cedar]

enermax revolution df that is

[south cliff]

Is there something on Amazon I got a gift card

So I also ordered a 6800

[fossil cedar]

enrmax revolution df still lol

just for more money

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

[south cliff]

Is there a different one on Amazon that is about as good as it

[mossy venture]

Maybe phanteks amp

Nope

This is a mid price for a 650, but it'll do the job for a 6800 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n34BD3/enermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt

[south cliff]

Why is that one good

I have a 650

[mossy venture]

There's a tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[mossy venture]

What model?

[south cliff]

Segotep

[mossy venture]

Gp?

[south cliff]

That’s why I’m upgrading

[mossy venture]

That could be b tier

Which if it is, it should be good enough for a 6800

I forget how to tell which is which though, pato might know

[south cliff]

Oh ok that should be good

[mossy venture]

There's two versions of the gp

Or three

I forget

[south cliff]

It’s fully modular

[mossy venture]

But one is good, other two are mediocre

Not the one I'm thinking of then

Give me a minute

[analog pulsar]

https://www.newegg.com/enermax-revolution-d-f-850w-erf850awt/p/1HU-0042-00156?Description=D.F&cm_re=D.F-_-9SIAFH7CVU0927-_-Product @elfin flame this is by enermax for $89

[mossy venture]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[mossy venture]

Whats the 80+ rating on it?

[south cliff]

Gold

[mossy venture]

Or if it has letters on the side, what are they

[south cliff]

“Gold”

Let me see rq

[analog pulsar]

are p12s still good fans

[mossy venture]

Yes

[analog pulsar]

is this a good price for them

okay

[mossy venture]

Alr, I'm eating ill figure out what it is in a bit

[cyan ravine]

@south cliff move that cable and take the pic again lol

[fossil cedar]

Why?

Revolution df is great

[mossy venture]

Amazon gift card

[south cliff]

Could I get the refurbished one

On Newegg

[fossil cedar]

Ik but filtering by Amazon only it's still the best options

All the a tiers are 125 like revo df

[fossil cedar]

I mean sure if it's a known seller and not some random from china

[south cliff]

If from enermax

[strong raft]

Could go rm750x for $100 on Amazon. Still 100w over what you have.

[south cliff]

Well I only have like 108 dollars

[south cliff]

Link

No I literally only have 108

[strong raft]

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM750x-Fully-Modular-Supply/dp/B08R5W27JS this is solidly A tier btw. 👍

[south cliff]

Which is better Corsair or the enermax

[fossil cedar]

They're both very good, just 750w vs 850w

[cyan ravine]

Pick the cheaper one

PS wuu

[south cliff]

Ok I guess I will get the enermax

Because it comes earlier

[analog pulsar]

you can just buy a mesh front panel

[desert minnow]

Can someone help me I wanna upgrade my pc but I don’t know where to start

[south cliff]

Well I found a rm850 refurbished from Newegg so ima get it it’s like 10 dollars less

And it’s white

[desert minnow]

okay i will

couldn’t get the pcpp link but I have

Core i7 8700k
16Gb DDR4 3600
500GB SSD
EVGA GTX 1070 8Gb
Asus z390-a prime

My budget is like maybe 500$

i was looking to get a 2070 super for a good deal but I wanna get someone’s recommendation

i don’t know some of the parts cause I baught the pc on facebook market place

And yes

[cyan ravine]

If you open up the pc you'll be able to read what psu it is

[desert minnow]

im on vacation right now

I could probably contact the seller and tell me all the parts he used

[cyan ravine]

Knowing what psu will have a heavy weight on the suggestions

[desert minnow]

i asked hi@

him

The description only said what I said

about the parts

He said he don’t know but it’s around 600-650w range

[cyan ravine]

650W would give you options

Hopefully not a write-off model

[elfin flame]

Huh, a GPU upgrade should be fine

A used 3060ti goes for $300-$350 on eBay, worth over a 2070s

[desert minnow]

I’ll see if I can get a good deal on one

if it will give me better performance yes

[strong raft]

Uhh, 3070 isn't far above 340ish also.

[desert minnow]

I play a lot of AAA games and story games

Yes

i can run games on hight quality and still get over 100 fps on some games

Thanks guys

[cyan ravine]

Roger

[strong raft]

I suppose eventually perhaps get promoted. Example gpu is a a 3070 at $310 incl shipping w/ 30 hrs left. 60 ti can definitely be had around $300ish though. https://www.ebay.com/itm/115653008072?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=uyPRBFwBSIe&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=IwXXitUXTSW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[cyan ravine]

6700/6750XT is good too in that range

Used even better

Reference

I am the zero point

Femilia

[elfin flame]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/394393098172?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ufNYbQjpTUC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=9X5NtUmPQM-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Possibly try for bidding under $300 @ last minute

[fossil cedar]

Bro the pic is upside down

Ree

pɐq ʎɯ ɥO

[cyan ravine]

Looks fine to me

[strong raft]

Being b.i.n. is cool. Both not too shabby. Another day until I see if I get a 3070 for $343.

[cyan ravine]

Idk what you guys are on about

See

[fossil cedar]

[strong raft]

We're excused

[fossil cedar]

He's Australian makes sense

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah I forgot I had Australian mode on

[fossil cedar]

Not without your glasses

Yeq

Batwoman

[cyan ravine]

Rombat

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/asian-face-funny-face-gif-12644334

so glad no one ever asked me to do this

:)

[leaden mauve]

rAciSsT!!!!!

(i approve)

[little osprey]

I’m asian so i can make this joke 😑

-.-

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[little osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-voices-in-my-head-voices-cat-gif-23453583

[leaden mauve]

the voices.

https://tenor.com/view/intruder-dancing-gif-25384010

[edgy hazel]

anyone available to help

[potent portal]

Sure. What's your issue?

[edgy hazel]

so i built this pc with my son and it turns on but nothing comes up on the screen?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[potent portal]

Are there any lights on the motherboard that are lit?

[edgy hazel]

yes

[potent portal]

You should also make sure you're plugging the video cable into the gpu and not the motherboard, and you're on the right input on the monitor

Which light is lit?

[edgy hazel]

motherboard lights, and video card lights are on

yup

[potent portal]

Any of these lit?

[edgy hazel]

let me look

yes DRAM

[potent portal]

Ok, it's failing to initialize then. That could be a couple different things but most likely is the bios needs to be updated.

You put the wrong link so I can't see what board and cpu you have

[edgy hazel]

CPU
Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor
Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor

Motherboard
ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard

[potent portal]

DDR4 model?

Or DDR5?

[edgy hazel]

ddr4

sorry wait

Intel core unlocked i5-13600K LGA1700

[potent portal]

Ah you definitely need a bios update then

Z690 requires one to run 13th gen

https://download.asrock.com/BIOS/1700/Z690 Pro RS(13.01)ROM.zip

[edgy hazel]

and how do I do that?

[potent portal]

Download that file, copy the ROM file out of the zip and onto a flash drive

Rename the file to creative.rom

Plug the drive into this port

Then hold the flashback button about 3 seconds, a light will flash

When it stops, it's done

[edgy hazel]

i plugged it in there and held the button but no light

[potent portal]

It was off when you held it right? I forgot to mention that

[edgy hazel]

no so shut the pc off

[obsidian wigeon]

you have to have the pc off

and just hold onto the button

[edgy hazel]

ok now i see a flashing light

[obsidian wigeon]

here we go

now wait

[potent portal]

Good. It can take a little while, go grab a drink or something. 10-15 minutes is fairly common but I've seen it done in 5.

[edgy hazel]

ok

ok light stopped flashing

[obsidian wigeon]

you can turn it on now

[edgy hazel]

should i take the flash drive out first?

[potent portal]

It shouldn't matter

[obsidian wigeon]

nah, don't worry

it only reads from the drive if you use the flash button

[edgy hazel]

still nothing

[obsidian wigeon]

huh

is there any debug leds on the mobo?

[potent portal]

Is it still the same dram light on?

[obsidian wigeon]

oh dram

if bios is updated but dram light is still on ram is likely faulty

[potent portal]

It's 13th gen on Z690 so it definitely needed to be updated at least

[edgy hazel]

no, now the BOOT and VGA lights are on

[potent portal]

That's better at least

It passed the first part of the self tests

[edgy hazel]

no, now the BOOT and VGA lights are on

[strong raft]

Is windows actually installed though. If not, that's the boot led basically. As for vga light, hdmi cable into gpu?

[potent portal]

Ok so for the vga light, you've got the gpu power plugged in tightly and the video cable on the gpu right?

Boot light just means it's looking for something to boot from and didn't find anything valid, normal at this stage

[edgy hazel]

ok now there is a picture. No Windows is not installed yet

[obsidian wigeon]

Everything is working right then

[strong raft]

called it.

[obsidian wigeon]

Apart from gpu

[potent portal]

Perfect, now you'll pop in your Windows install drive

[obsidian wigeon]

Gotta verify if it's correctly installed and is receiving power

[edgy hazel]

i restarted it again and now the something came on the screen

it still has the BOOT and VGA lights on though

[obsidian wigeon]

okay then that's working

[potent portal]

Boot light is still normal since there's no OS

[obsidian wigeon]

time to install os

wait

i know why the vga light is on

the monitor cable is connected to motherboard

instead of the back of gpu

[edgy hazel]

no its is plugged into the video card

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

[potent portal]

Not in the picture you sent

I think that's the confusion

[obsidian wigeon]

if it displayed something then it's working

[edgy hazel]

it was in the motherboard at first as you can see in the picture i sent but i moved it

when i restarted it i moved it first

[strong raft]

I also said try hdmi, not DP like the cable you used in the pic. Shutdown, do hdmi cable to gpu, turn back on & should be good.

[potent portal]

HDMI is usually the default for troubleshooting yes

[edgy hazel]

i didnt see that before

[potent portal]

But we've got picture now so moving right along

[edgy hazel]

so should i switch to an HDMI

ok

[potent portal]

Do you have a USB ready to install windows?

[edgy hazel]

yes

this is what is on the screen now

[potent portal]

F1

[edgy hazel]

i take it it need a hardwired keyboard?

[potent portal]

Wireless works

As long as it has some indication it connected properly

[edgy hazel]

give me 1 min

ok F1

[potent portal]

You'll want your memory to be in slots 2 and 4

[edgy hazel]

and right now they are in

[strong raft]

I'll also suggest leaving xmp disabled until after windows is installed. XMP if not stable can otherwise possibly* mess w/ the installation. Might be rare, but idk.

[potent portal]

Yep.

It should boot to your Windows install USB on the next reboot

[edgy hazel]

ok shutting it down now

wait

how do i disable the XMP

[potent portal]

It's disabled by default

While you have it shut down you should swap the stick in slot 1 to slot 4

[edgy hazel]

ok it says XMP Profile is auto

??

is that disabled?

[potent portal]

Yeah, you'd pick profile 1 to enable it

[edgy hazel]

Ok, powering down now

Ok, i moved the memory do i need to put the flash drive in with Windows 11?

[potent portal]

Yes, and it should load that automatically when you turn it on again

[edgy hazel]

Ok, anything else before I turn it back on?

[potent portal]

nope

Everything else looked good, your SSD was detected and everything

[edgy hazel]

Ok here we go

[flint sapphire]

👀

[edgy hazel]

Which do you recomend?

Upgrade: Install Windows and keep files, settings and applications

or

Custom: Install Windows only (advanced)

[obsidian wigeon]

It's a new pc

So do advanced

[edgy hazel]

Installing nowOk,

Ok, Installing now

[edgy hazel]

Quick question?

COD MW2 what should I use, Battlenet or Steam?

[obsidian wigeon]

up to you, but i prefer steam

[edgy hazel]

ok

A message popped up and it asked to update drivers. I said yes and it did so and then restarted. Now it says "Installation has been successfully completed! For further drivers and utilities, please enter BIOS Setup Manual to enable Auto driver installer function" How do I do this?

[potent portal]

I'd ignore that, better to get the drivers yourself instead of using utilities like that

[edgy hazel]

Ok, how do I know when to do that and where to get them?

[potent portal]

This should be the only one you need https://download.asrock.com/Drivers/Intel/Others/ME(v16.1.25.1917_CONS).zip

[strong raft]

Here is an example spot https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z690 Pro RS/index.asp#Download
and red box is the most of what I'd even think about. Probably don't need the Realtek audio driver considering it's date.

[edgy hazel]

Thank You all so much

[strong raft]

Win10/11 has a lot of stuff builtin. Main thing is now go to AMD/nvidia and get display drivers.

[upper condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/McthNc

how much do you guys think i could sell this for??

it works pretty well and the same as when i got it just under normal gaming use

and would it be smarter to sell as individual parts or as like a "prebuilt"

[potent portal]

Breaking it down,
CPU - $85
Mobo - $60
RAM - $40
Cooler - $30
Storage - $60
GPU - $170
PSU - $60
Case - $60
Total - $565
You could list it for $650 and let people haggle it down to around that price, you might get $600 for it if you're lucky

It'll probably be easier to sell it as a complete PC. Shipping might get expensive, and I'd recommend using the original box for the case and instapak to keep things from shaking around too much.

[upper condor]

alright and is the best place to sell it like ebay or what would you recommend?

[potent portal]

For something like that I'd sell local to save the shipping costs and risks. It's also safer to deal that way, less risk of scammers. So you'd be looking at Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace, things like that.

[upper condor]

alright thanks a ton

[strong raft]

Ebay seller fees are 15% give or take anyways.

[potent portal]

When there's no promotions going on yeah

[rugged galleon]

Hey, im a bit new here but is this where I can ask for a recommendation for pc parts?

ooo nice

I have a question, so I have the i5 13600k and was wondering if there are any good recommendations for motherboards

I am currently looking at the Aorus z690 ultra atx

Is that good or is there something better that I could get?

[strong raft]

Seems pretty decent overall. RAM is also a question. Do make sure you get a mobo that takes your choice of ram (ddr 4 vs 5) - edit: quick example of a Z790 option as well https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8m6p99/msi-pro-z790-a-wifi-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z790-a-wifi
---edit: here's what $172 would get ya https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LWPQzy/msi-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-wifi-ddr4

[rugged galleon]

Right, I am okay with upgrading to a ddr5 ram

[past rock]

Heyoo I'm kind of stuck and not sure what to upgrade on my pc I've been getting cpu bottlenecking when streaming on obs and playing mw2 my first thought was to upgrade the CPU and add more ram since it might not be able to keep up with the 3060 ti but idk if thats the problem

[rugged galleon]

I'm just wondering if there is a better motherboard that I could get

[past rock]

heres my current specs
CPU
Intel Core i5-11400F 6-Core 2.6 GHz
Cooler
DEEPCOOL GAMMAX GTE V2
Motherboard
Gigabyte B560 DS3H-AC
GPU
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
RAM
Team T-FORCE Vulcan Z 16GB 3200 MHz
Storage
2x WD Blue SN550 NVMe 1TB M.2 SSD
Case
NZXT H510
Power Supply
EVGA 500W Bronze

[bold prism]

Hey everyone, not really a build question but does anyone know a good light weight laptop that’s under 1000 buck? Preferably 3060 graphics or a little worse

[strong raft]

Yea MW2 is kinda cpu heavy. Some might say switch up to a 11700 for 2 more cores, but idk. 12th gen is great but would be around $270ish (before factoring money from selling the 11th gen combo). "tray" 12400 is $159 on Ebay, 12400F is $160ish on NE/amazon. Possible mobo could be this for $130: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dsFbt6/msi-mag-b660m-bazooka-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-mag-b660m-bazooka-ddr4

[past rock]

I'm considering this don't know if my choices are any good tho lol:

• ASRock Z690 EXTREME WiFi 6E LGA 1700 Intel Z690 SATA 6Gb/s DDR4 ATX Intel Motherboard $196.99
• CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM750x CP-9020199-NA 750 W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply $99.99
• Intel Core i7-12700K - Core i7 12th Gen Alder Lake 12-Core (8P+4E) 3.6 GHz LGA 1700 125W Intel UHD Graphics 770 Desktop Processor - BX8071512700K $323.88
• G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-32GTZR $109.99

Total: $731.84

[strong raft]

Someone else might give extra options, but not too shabby. Great psu choice. selling old cpu+mobo+ram maybe fetch $200 or so. Ah, got a microcenter around by chance? They've been having some crazy combos like $300 for 12700K+mobo.

[past rock]

sadly I dont 😭 I'm on the verge of driving hours to go to one though lmao

ok bet ill look for that one

this one? ENERMAX Revolution D.F. 850W 80 Plus Gold 850W, Full Modular, Multi Rail, 7 Year Warranty, Power Supply, ERF850EWT

I had changed it to the 13700k forgot to edit the msg tho lol

also is 64gb of ram worth 100$ more? bc 32gb of 3600 ddr4 ram is $104 but 64gb of 3600 is $209

or do yall have any recs for cheaper ram

why the i5 not i7 tho?

[strong raft]

within 2-3% on (most) games.

[past rock]

I game and stream at the same time plus some graphic design and video editing

my issue with my i5 11400F is that it bottlenecks a lot with my 3060ti for some reason

even though I use nvenc on obs

and tried streaming at 720p still same thing

[strong raft]

Note this is 1080p and a 3080, but shows you how far even 12th gen ahead of 11400. 13600K generally beats 12900K. 13700K would be getting into diminishing returns quite a bit, plus what rommy said.

[past rock]

Yeah but I think I might still go with the 13700K to be safe I kind of regret going for an i5 when I got the 11400F so ill go the safe route just in case lmao

Thanks for yalls help tho!

[cyan ravine]

13600K has more power in every way over a 12700K

Don't get caught on naming conventions, the 13600K has almost as much processing power as a high end Ryzen

Almost double the power of an i9 three* years ago lol

Or should I say 4? It's almost 1st January now lmao

[flint sapphire]

Should mention it has 14 cores, 6 performance cores and 8 efficiency a little bit more then the old 11400

[cyan ravine]

The terms i5, i7 and i9 have lost a lot of meaning in the last year or so

It's not really a lateral definition anymore

Not with the way Intel's going with it

[strong raft]

btw the i5 does actually trade blows w/ the i7. The Ecores will handle background tasks and such anyways. Save the $100 for a future gpu upgrade or something

1440p:

[cyan ravine]

But even in like, rendering, the 13600K has more(??) cores than last year's i7

Like 12 vs 14

[flint sapphire]

Yeah it does just only the perf cores have hyperthreading? I think

[cyan ravine]

Same thread count tho but much better

Also runs colder

Cos larger die

[flint sapphire]

All around a value god among cpus

[past rock]

I was considering this years i7 tho

the 13700k

instead of the 13600k

[strong raft]

Here's a decent graph. btw, 13600K is about 10% higher wattage than 12700K. If there was a decent price gap, I for one would happily take 12th gen. TPU review is pretty good https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-13600k/22.html (oh, 13th gen does OC well though). I'm just itching for it to dip under $300.

[cyan ravine]

It's just adding more e cores for a slight multi-core bump

In all honesty the 13600K isn't a slouch

The parity between the two is significantly close

i5 tuned right will get you the i9 gaming perf just about

[past rock]

true idk im gonna sleep on it and decide tmro tbh

[cyan ravine]

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https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

[past rock]

thanks lol

[past rock]

no 2023 for Felix I guess

[strong raft]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-here-be-gone-annoyed-gif-12095984

[past rock]

[strong raft]

Happy to be of assistance

[cyan ravine]

[past rock]

[fossil cedar]

Tbf you do get 8p on 13700 but not worth for most

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dead-rikrangdan-gif-24306201

[stone python]

Lian Li LANCOOL 215 RGB ATX Gaming Case

Intel Core i7-12700F 2.1 GHz 12-Core LGA 1700 Processor

ASUS PRIME B660 PLUS D4

Gigabyte GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti GAMING OC PRO 8G

DEEPCOOL CASTLE- 360EX A-RGB INFINIARC EDITION

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 16GB (2 x 8) 3600MHz - Black

Kingston NV2 2TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe Internal SSD Up to 3500 MB/s SNV2S/2000G

Corsair RMe Series RM750e 750W 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power - CP-9020248-UK

For 1575$

Is it good value ?

[obsidian wigeon]

eh

psu is overpriced

wait it's 99 rn?

not bad then

the build is fine

[stone python]

Ok thanks

[stone python]

I’m new to this kind of stuff but I found this in a store they build it and I ship it to me & I wanted to make sure if it’s a good value

Yes

How do I know if it can support 4k or not ?

There’s a lot of good feedback

What about 3070ti

Thanks 🙏🏻

Any suggestions for a monitor ?

Around 400-500

No in Saudi Arabia

Yes I did

Ok thank you for helping me out ❤️

[elfin flame]

https://www.extra.com/en-sa/computer/monitors/fhd/lg-27-inch-qhd-ips-hdr10-monitor-with-amd-freesync/p/100305494?

Do you know if this monitor is available elswhere for the same price online or in store for you?

If you can, check on your Amazon or other online retailers for Saudi Arabia for 1440p options as well.

Some monitors to look out for would be HP X27Q, Gigabyte M27Q or G27Q, LG Ultragear 27GL83A, and the ASUS Tuf Gaming VG27AQ if under or around 2000 SAR. If you find other options, though, then send model names and I or someone else can find reviews for them.

4K options seem to be pushing beyond the budget for the most part.

[stone python]

Thanks a lot I will check on them

[main cedar]

Im here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sckv78

30 thousand turkish lira

Around 1.5-1.6 k

Dollrs

The case is 5k and the aio is 3 k turkish lira

Btw

I might also get nzxt h5 elite

As a case since its cheaper

Is there a turkish version of pcpp?

There are lots of

But there is a site called akakce.com

You put the name of the thing u want

And it shows u different website options

With different prices of course

It helps u find the cheapest

Alright thanks

Ill also play on 1920x1080

Would be better

If there is wifi

But i can buy a gadget for that too

Btw dont change the video card

I found the same one for 500 dollars only

9.4k turkish lira

I dont have a monitor

But the 30k is just for the case

My dad will give me more cash for monitor keyboard etx

Yes

Just the case

I will play 2k

2k

I dont really know if i should get a 1440p 165 hz or a 1080p 240hz

Mixed

Ill play cs go valorant counter

But also gta 5 rdr 2 etc

No

Okay

Water cooling all the way

Lt720 is the thing i want

Its cheap aff and good quality

[little osprey]

can anyone recommend a good 1tb and 2tb m.2

[main cedar]

Kingston NV2

Cheap

And good

[little osprey]

how are 970 evo plus

[main cedar]

If you can go for something overkill you can get the 970-980 evo plus models,both are well quality

One of the best in the market

[little osprey]

Thanks so much

[main cedar]

No problem man

Yes

Its secondhand

I dont have it secured but it still on sale

Okay

3k TL

Sorry for late reply @elfin flame

I had to help my mom carry something

A lt720 is the same price as a x53 in my country so

Its real good

[elfin flame]

You don't need Z690 for a non-K SKU Intel CPU. Overkill for 12400/f.

LT520 is 240mm, but it's more than enough to take care of a 12400/f. Not a hard chip to cool whatsoever.

Don't buy NZXT H510, Phanteks P300a is a good case.

Kingston NV1 1TB as your boot drive. 2TB as your 2nd game drive.

[main cedar]

Thanks bro

Will I need any extra cables/fans?

How many fan slots does the p300a have btw

Yes

And lt520 has 2

So ill get 2 fans

This will work

[elfin flame]

Wait, my b, it's 4 fans.

1 exhaust, 2front, and 1 top

[main cedar]

The case doesnt look good

[main cedar]

What how

It looks modern

[main cedar]

It doesnt really look cool

Can you find something that looks more like the one i likwd

[main cedar]

5k

Tl was the case

Cuz of the high newegg shipping

The case is 2.5k and the other 2.5k is newegg shipping

Both

+good airflow

No the temps aint a must

But it looks just like how i want it

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xPSkWMGdAHM&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

I want it to look like this

And my cpu and gpu running cool makes me comfortable

Like the inside of the pc being cool

Cold i mean

I didnt like it

[main cedar]

I am sometimes thinking about

Should i get a 1080 ti founders edition

And downgrade the cpu too

I wish newegg had better shipping price

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wG1FICZ7m6I&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

What u think bout this

Idk

3050 makes everything worse tho

3050 = poop