building-and-recc-chat

[upbeat lake]

ctrl alt delete worked but nothing else

weirdly changing tabs worked if i clicked the tab i wanted, did ctrl alt delete and then backed out of it it would put me back into the tab i last selected fully working but locks everything else

[fossil cedar]

Run the sfc and dism through this bat file

!bat

[still roost]

Link to a general windows fixes and scans by Risen
https://github.com/Ryzen5950XT/Windows-stuff/releases/download/Windows-utilities-and-fixes-batch-file/Win.Utils.Fixes.Latest.launcher.bat

[fossil cedar]

Then after it's finished go back, go fixes then do the chkdsk and reboot your pc, chkdsk takes a bit btw

[analog pulsar]

What's the cheapest pc you can buy to play roblox VR

[upbeat lake]

1650 is the minimum gpu for most vr games i think

so

budget of around £500-700

but dont go for minimum its not worth it

[little osprey]

They already are shooting for a 4090 this build is probably not for themself

Their self

[upbeat lake]

huh

[little osprey]

Idk

[mossy venture]

could just say himself

[little osprey]

Lmfao i’m struggling this morning

[analog pulsar]

My brother got quest for Christmas and want to play roblox vr

[upbeat lake]

im so confused what r u on about

[analog pulsar]

But quest doesn't have roblox app

[upbeat lake]

yeah its not worth £500-700 to play roblox vr at like 4 fps

[analog pulsar]

I'm sure it won't run 4fps

[upbeat lake]

1650 is usually minimum, not reccomended

meaning you 100% are getting less than 60

which for vr

is a HUGE problem

[little osprey]

Bro it’s for a little kid

[upbeat lake]

and ur brother will probably end up throwing up

no

it doesnt matter

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7wR83y

[upbeat lake]

its for vr

[analog pulsar]

Well could get a 6600 or 3060 for maybe cheap and get a build for under $500

[little osprey]

Does he really want it that bad lol

[mossy venture]

buying used parts you could do 500

[little osprey]

he just got a quest

[upbeat lake]

low FPS in vr causes REALLY bad motion sickness which kids are particularly vunerable to anyway

[mossy venture]

10400/10100/3600 etc 2060/6600/5600xt etc

[analog hearth]

I play VR at 60fps with no problems

[upbeat lake]

okay but then your gonna have a cheaped out CPU that will bottleneck and 8gb of ram which wont be enough

[analog pulsar]

We he started to get into pc games we have a laptop but it's only 5500U with igpu

[upbeat lake]

remember its roblox, its badly optimised because the games are made by people with no clue how to do optimization

[little osprey]

Yea but what i’m saying is bro just got stuff for christmas, are you really gonna have someone spend $500 because he wants to play a free game

Just my two cents lol

[analog pulsar]

I mean maybe he will get into other games but rn he wants to just play roblox

Plus we have xbox rn for roblox but it's very laggy

But he can't see it

[analog hearth]

I’m gonna try playing Roblox on my Optiplex that’s probably not even worth $200

[fossil cedar]

1650 is gonna run vr terribly tbh

[fossil cedar]

60fps is like minimum for VR tho ideally 90-120hz/fps

[analog hearth]

60fps minimum for anything though tbh

also, I'm playing Roblox on a 6700 (non-K) with integrated graphics without issues

[little osprey]

That ain’t vr tho

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but VR is way more compute heavy

[analog hearth]

ah I didn't know Roblox VR was the requirement

[fossil cedar]

Anything vr is way more compute heavy and uses more vram

[analog hearth]

ye exactly

[upbeat lake]

I THINK I FOUND THE PROBLEM

i think its spotify

apparently hardware acceleration since an update all the way back in 2017 causes ur pc to freeze randomly and it never got fixed

so

i disabled hardware acceleration

if it happens again then i know its not that

but if it doesnt

then thats pretty epic

[analog pulsar]

Can VMs run vr applications

[upbeat lake]

it appears to have worked

u mean virtual machines or smth else?

just making sure so i dont make a fool of myself answerinf that

[analog pulsar]

Yea virtual machine

[upbeat lake]

dont take my word for this cos im not 100% sure but i would assume they can but its dependant on the thing your running them ons specs

[analog pulsar]

@mossy venture would buying a Delloplex be okay I did run a 3080 with it but I don't remember how ot went

[mossy venture]

sure, but personally I would rather buy used parts and make a pc

[upbeat lake]

idk if u guys have it outside of the UK but CEX is really good for used PC parts

[analog pulsar]

I think only bottleneck with older hardware ware the pcie lanes running 3.0 gen

And possibly cpu

[upbeat lake]

they dont sell cases motherboards or i think PSUs but other than that

i built my pc for like 700-800 and it was worth like 1000 brand new

[obsidian wigeon]

vm doesn't run the gpu with correct drivers

so gaming on vm is bound to be very bad

generic display driver is used to just display stuff

[upbeat lake]

this is true

didnt even think of drivers causing problems

theres no point gaming on a VM either

[analog pulsar]

Gaming vms tho

[upbeat lake]

whats the point tho

[analog pulsar]

Well inwad thinking I could share my computer power so we don't need to get him a pc

He would just run the VM

But if it doesn't work then we only have 1 options

[upbeat lake]

assuming ur trying to play games at the same time i really wouldnt

[analog pulsar]

No it fine to a point

https://youtu.be/Bc3LGVi5Sio linus did it

[upbeat lake]

until u open task manager and see all red

[analog pulsar]

What task manager doesn't show red

[upbeat lake]

when ur usage is topped out it displays as red

im saying everything is gonna be 100% used

[analog pulsar]

That's no red tho

Also just bc it says 100% doesn't mean it's tapped out

[upbeat lake]

💀

my 100% usage isnt using all of the usage what do u mean

thats literally what 100% usage is

[upbeat lake]

it literally comes up as red

[analog pulsar]

Where bc that never happens for me

[analog pulsar]

That just power

[upbeat lake]

the top bits

no

where it says the %

when it goes above 90% it comes up red

[analog pulsar]

Oh you still on old task manager

[upbeat lake]

win 10

cos i dont see haha bigger number go brr

win 10 is better for many reasons

biggest one being its not designed for 80 yr olds

[analog pulsar]

what

[upbeat lake]

windows 11 is designed with 2 things in mind, accessability and portability

[analog pulsar]

I dont really think so but okay

[upbeat lake]

it literally is

[analog pulsar]

no

[upbeat lake]

what makes it different from windows 10 then

other than round edges on buttons

[analog pulsar]

dark mode

brrrrrrrrrr

[analog pulsar]

im talking about task manager

[upbeat lake]

oh wow

such a big difference

okay let me rephrase

other than aesthetics

what makes it different

[analog pulsar]

also more customizability

within settings

[upbeat lake]

okay i wont deny that thats fair

but thats an accessability feature

[analog pulsar]

No

[upbeat lake]

yes

[analog pulsar]

I'm not talking about that

[upbeat lake]

wdym then

[analog pulsar]

are you talking about these

[upbeat lake]

im talkin about literally anything you can do in windows 11 that you cant do in 10

[analog pulsar]

we get focus ability and multi windows i think 10 had them but for certain things

[upbeat lake]

its either for portability or accessibility

[upbeat lake]

focus ability whats that

what does it do

[analog pulsar]

a basiclly do not disturb

[upbeat lake]

a feature most people will never have a use for

[analog pulsar]

yea theres no red with this task manager

[upbeat lake]

okay whats the other one

[analog pulsar]

yep

[upbeat lake]

ok like

multi windows u mean the thing people use in schools to make people think they closed all of someones tabs

because again

[analog pulsar]

no

[upbeat lake]

a feature that has like one time it can be useful

oh

whats multi windows then

[analog pulsar]

you can snap to have multiple stuf open on screen

[upbeat lake]

ohhhh

right

[little osprey]

you’re thinking of virtual desktops

[upbeat lake]

thats accessibility

[upbeat lake]

no im thinking of the thing when u hold windows+d i think

[little osprey]

ctrl+ windows + D?

[upbeat lake]

thats it

[analog pulsar]

bro it hids everything

why do we have these

[upbeat lake]

ong

useless feature

[analog pulsar]

people trying to game at work

[upbeat lake]

definitely not its intended use

but sure

a use that slows productivity yeah microsoft would make that sure its right within what a huge company would do

slow down their workers

[analog pulsar]

not really work is slower im sure they get the work done

[near garden]

Or do I have to buy a new one

[weary galleon]

I'd guess most of them were already a thing but just 3rd party programs instead of native features

[thorn merlin]

hello guys i have a 3060ti and i5 12400 schould i play on full HD or WQHD

but can i play WQHD on a 24 zoll monitor

no 1920x1080

ok

ok

i have a another question , according to pc partpicker, my pc consumes 430 watts and the pc i ordered has 450 watts, is that ok

[mossy venture]

what is the psu

[thorn merlin]

ADATA XPG PYLON 450 W 80+ Bronze-zertifiziertes ATX-Netzteil

[mossy venture]

it'll be fine

[thorn merlin]

ok thx

[weary galleon]

I mean you can for AA purposes but in most games the perf hit probably isn't worth it

In games with a res slider going to 110-125% can sometimes give very nice results

[violet nexus]

I have started building a pc with little prior knowledge and I would like a little help. I’ve managed to add everything into the tower and it seems to be running just fine. All the fans work and the leds turn on. But I can’t seem to get the monitor to turn on. What am I doing wrong?

[jagged ember]

Did you plug in the monitor to the wall and turn it on? Also, is your display cable actually plugged into your graphics card and not your motherboard?

[mossy venture]

also, what cpu and motherboard

[violet nexus]

It’s pulled into the wall and it’s turned on. It’s turning on now but says no signal

My motherboard is the msi B550 and cpu is the AMD ryzen 4600 I think

[mossy venture]

not 5600?

[near garden]

I recently wiped my pc and the drives I have 2 nvmes is there a way I could tell witch one is which?

The only reason is because I have a hard drive and stuff but only one of the nvmes has a heat shield and I don’t know if I installed windows on the one with out a heat shield so I’m just wondering if I did would it have any effect ? Because it has no heat Shield

[violet nexus]

I just looked it’s the 56000

[mossy venture]

well, it could technichally be bios but that's unlikely, so lets check other stuff first

are there any small red leds on the motherboard?

[jagged ember]

I'd also just make sure you're plugged into the right ports for your display

[violet nexus]

No just a white one

[jagged ember]

Plug into the green ones that are horizontal, not the vertical ones on the red

Layout obviously might be different but the idea is the same

[violet nexus]

I just get no signal on my monitor screen

[mossy venture]

what's the gpu btw?

[jagged ember]

I'm still getting no confirmation on whether you're plugged into the green slots lol

I want to get that out of the way

[violet nexus]

Msi Geforce Gtx 16500

[jagged ember]

It's a mistake a lot of people make, myself included

[violet nexus]

Yes I’m plugged into the green

[mossy venture]

are the gpu fans spinning?

[violet nexus]

Yes

[mossy venture]

hm

sure ram is fully in?

[violet nexus]

I just got the parts it can’t be that

[jagged ember]

I'd also try a different port on the gpu if possible

[jagged ember]

It really could be, parts can arrive dead

Indood

Is why there's rma and return periods

[violet nexus]

I can’t send pictures but the monitor turned on and it’s giving me a layout of the specs

[jagged ember]

something like this?

[violet nexus]

Yes!

[jagged ember]

cool cool, your stuff works!

you gotta go install windows on your drives next

[mossy venture]

just need to install windows now

[jagged ember]

mm

get windows 10

[violet nexus]

One more thing, the power button on my tower only turns it on

I have windows 11 ready whenever I get the chance

[jagged ember]

as in, don't actually pay for windows

its literally freeware

[violet nexus]

Nvm I fixed it lmao

[near garden]

is it normal that theres no program files or program 64 folder?

[jagged ember]

that doesn't look like your boot drive

[near garden]

yeah was just curious thatnks

[languid nimbus]

https://www.amazon.com/2-5GBase-T-Ethernet-Controller-Standard-Low-Profile/dp/B07Y2GWVB8/ref=asc_df_B07Y2GWVB8/? not really sure where else to post this - but we're getting 2gig internet soon. My mobo only supports 1gig (Asus Prime Z390-A). Would this work to bridge the gap so I could make the most of my internet?

[fossil cedar]

Looks like it but do you really need more than 1gig?

[languid nimbus]

not in particular, but we're splitting the internet between a few people and the 2gig package isn't much more expensive than the 1gig

after suffering with the dog crap internet I've had for so long I want the BEST I CAN GET DANG IT

[fossil cedar]

I guess

Keep in mind you could run into ssd bottlenecks at that point

[languid nimbus]

It still ends up cheaper than what I'm paying for my 900kbps internet

gotcha, good point, I've also been told cpu overload

lmao

dial up

[jagged ember]

Deeeeee dooooo

Isn't it crazy that people could actually tell how good the connection was from the sounds they heard

Back in the dial up days

[languid nimbus]

0.48

Mbps download

on my latest speed test

rip

[violet nexus]

Okay so my screen keeps saying
Memory modules were found on no-
-optimized memony stot. Please follow the instruction
and move the yellow-marked memory modules to the arrow-marked optimized memory slots

What do I do

[jagged ember]

Turn off your pc and swap ram to slots a2 b2

Usually these two in the yellow

But check the manual to be sure

[violet nexus]

Okay I did that!

[jagged ember]

Sometimes motherboard manufacturers like being special and flipping the order

Double the bandwidth, twice the gaming performance

[leaden mauve]

you know what has double the bandwidth of dual channel?

[mossy venture]

what she said

[jagged ember]

Deez nuts

[leaden mauve]

cope

[violet nexus]

I feel dumb, what do I do now that I’m still in the specs screen

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kachow-cars-lightning-mc-queen-pixar-disney-gif-5931942

[jagged ember]

Get a 16gb thumb drive

Install windows media installation on the thumb drive using another device

[violet nexus]

What do I do with the little drive that came in my windows 11 box

I appreciate you all answering all my questions

[jagged ember]

Oh no, did you buy windows 11?

[violet nexus]

I didn’t, it was a gift lol

[wide sparrow]

[jagged ember]

Thank god

Well probably just plug it in and boot from that thumb drive

I bet there's a manual in the w11 box though isn't there?

[violet nexus]

My name has color now 😮

It has a manual yes!

[jagged ember]

Follow the manual

Should be pretty simple but I've never bought or been given a physical windows box lol

Even chatgpt tells you to rtfm

[violet nexus]

Can I only connect it to eathernet?

[elfin flame]

Type into command prompt

OOBE\BYPASSNRO

Then hit enter

(They are capital O, not zeros just in case you need to confirm)

[fossil cedar]

You also need to take out your ethernet cable if you have one plugged in

[fossil cedar]

Possibly if your motherboard doesn't have WiFi

[violet nexus]

This worked

[violet nexus]

Could I just set up a vpn?

[potent portal]

Not without network drivers

What you can do is download the drivers to your phone and plug that into your pc

[violet nexus]

Is this this drivers?

[potent portal]

If that's the support page for your device yes

[upper ore]

So i was playing some pixelmon because why not. But anyways why the heck are cpu temps so high under maximum? Its to late for me to do anything tonight but i thought i should ask. And that mod isnt even that taxing and come on its minecraft.

Do i need more thermal paste? I thought i put enough on there

Please ping me if you answer my question and ill look tomorrow. Im getting pretty tired.

[analog pulsar]

There could be many reasons 1. Not enough or to much thermal paste 2. Bad mounting which makes the pressure on the cpu bad 3. Bad cooler

[earnest olive]

what cpu and what cooler?

[upper ore]

Ryzen 7 5800X3D and the galahad 360

[earnest olive]

galahad 360 should be able to handle more than 113W, it did 170W on my 5800X non 3D

seems like it might just be a spike

do you have pump speed maxed?

[upper ore]

Idk I haven't touched anything really because it's been running fine. Besides the occasional crash on ark when I played it modded. But I just put the blame on ark because that game can be alittle unstable.

[earnest olive]

try setting your pump speed to always max, will help smooth out temp spikes

[upper ore]

1. How do I do that? 2. Is it normal for spikes that high on easy games the minecraft? Because I don't remember my last pc having those Temps.

[earnest olive]

ryzen is kinda spiky

seeing a spike to that temp at 113W seems reasonable if your pump speed is auto

it'll be in bios

[upper ore]

Alright I'll do that first thing tomorrow after work. Thank you!

[earnest olive]

[slate pagoda]

ryzen 5 5600x + 3060 good combo?

[cyan ravine]

Depends on the price you're paying

[slate pagoda]

i was more so meaning will they run well together

[cyan ravine]

They will but depending on the price you pay you can do much better with a different combo for value for money

[slate pagoda]

$532

total

[frigid night]

You can download Fan Control and use that to control your pump and fan speeds too if you don't want to mess with bios.

[fossil cedar]

If you're in the US for like a few $ more you can get this and it's wayyy better https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XFGGJM

[upper ore]

This one? https://youtu.be/uDPKVKBMQU8

[frigid night]

Yeah

[boreal horizon]

howdy yall

[upper ore]

What do i click?

[jagged ember]

The hyperlink under releases

[upper ore]

Do i just install those 4 things?

[frigid night]

You don't install anything. It's a standalone program with everything you need in the zip.

Download from this link.

https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Releases/blob/master/FanControl.zip?raw=true

Extract all the files in the zip to it's own folder somewhere on your PC.

Find FanControl.exe and run.

[upper ore]

Holy crap thats alot lol

[upper ore]

What now?

[frigid night]

Hit ok

[upper ore]

Why is it saying those 3 arent responding?

[frigid night]

means you don't have anything connected to those headers

[upper ore]

Weird i thought i have every fan slot filled on my motherboard

[frigid night]

I'm not sure. Just keep going.

[upper ore]

What now?

[frigid night]

Looks like Fan 3 is your pump. Click the 3 dots in the top right of fan 3 and click manual control. A slider should appear. Slide it all the way to the right.

[upper ore]

Cant its grayed out

[frigid night]

to the left of the slider is a "switch" click that then you can move the slider

[upper ore]

I had to turn on curve to get the option

Alright i can do it now

[upper ore]

Alright just did it

Its surprisingly quiet for being on max

[frigid night]

Awesome. In the top left corner click the 3 bars. Then checkmark "Start with windows"

I keep my delay at 20 seconds.

[upper ore]

Alright

[frigid night]

Once you do that, Exit out of the menu.

[upper ore]

How do i tell what fans are what?

[frigid night]

In the top right corner of the Fan Control window is another 3 dots

click that and and click "save configuration"

[frigid night]

You will have to mess with the slider for each one. Just raise 1 to 100% and see which fan in your PC starts ramping up to max. Then name it.

If you aren't worried about your fans curves though then I wouldn't let FanControl control them.

If you are still experiencing spikes like you were, then we can look at making a graph curve for your AIO fans.

but personally for me.. before I load a game. I just manually control all my fan sliders to 90%. I turn them back to auto after I'm done gaming.

[upper ore]

Fan #2 might actually be my galahad

[frigid night]

Why do you think that?

at 60% 2100rpm that looks like your galahad

[upper ore]

When i turn it to max it get really loud and kicks out alot of air

[frigid night]

odd

Ok, turn off the switch to the slider and set fan 2 to 100%

[upper ore]

Is it possible that both are my galahad?

[frigid night]

Your galahad should only be hooked to 1 header. So not likelky.. I myself have a galahad and use FanControl

Do you have your fans daisy chained with your pump?

[upper ore]

I might not

[frigid night]

I'm about to head out the door to work so I likely won't be able to help much more for the day. Play around with it and see what you can do. I think fan 3 is your pump though and if it is ramping up the fans, then it sounds like you have the fans daisy chained with the pump so when the pump speed goes up, so do the fans.

If you have the knowledge and/or time, I'd check and see if that's the case and if so, put the fans on a different header if available.

[upper ore]

Fan #5 are my case fans

[frigid night]

What about fan #4?

[upper ore]

4 was my exhaust

[frigid night]

nice

[upper ore]

So 2 and 3 have to be my pump and fans

[frigid night]

yeah. Set fan 2 all the way up and see if you hear them ramp up

as well as feel any higher airflow through your aio

[upper ore]

Yup its them

3 has to be the pump and 2 are the fans

[frigid night]

alright cool.

[upper ore]

So do i set 2 and 3 to max?

[frigid night]

So just set only pump (fan 3) to 100% and some other time we can set up some graph curves for the rest

anyways. Out the door I go. Have a good day. 🫡

[upper ore]

Cya and thank you

Damn my cpu gets pretty toasty when playing modded ark on genesis lol

Damn so does my GPU lol

Damn no kidding lol

I mean i am playing on the highest settings pretty much lol

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-light-mode-discord-light-mode-cs-go-counter-strike-gif-25596696

seeing that screenshot in discord be like

[upper ore]

5800x3d

[elfin flame]

Expected

Which size Galahad are you using?

[upper ore]

360

Not yet just got this fan controller

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ccsjQ6 My pc

Just built it last month

Should i do a cyberpunk benchmark test? lol

Sorry im back just got done eating dinner

Of course and on max settings

Temps actually looking pretty good and these are the stats

I dont know what AMD Fidelity, DLSS, and DRS so i didnt touch it

Whats fan curve exactly? I have an idea but i could be wrong

[elfin flame]

DLSS is rendering at lower resolution and upscaling. Uses AI for that. NVIDIA's upscaling technology.

AMD Fidelity is the "counterpart" for DLSS but not quite the same implementation.

DRS is rendering at a lower resolution when there is a lot of objects in a scene in basic terms.

[upper ore]

Yeah i dont think im gonna touch those lol

Can you explain fan curves now?

[elfin flame]

Download MSI afterburner.

When you're done, let me know.

[upper ore]

Done

alright im there

Okay

What do you suggest?

[strong raft]

If that cooler is good, then more like this:

My 1080 never had to go over 60% fan, ever

[elfin flame]

I use a more aggressive curve, so like an example of how I set mine:

First point is 30% @ 20c
Second point is 50% @ 40c
Third point is 70% @ 60c
Fourth point is 100% @ 80c

[upper ore]

How does this look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ccsjQ6

Yeah wanna guess what i got it for new?

😑

Howd you know lol

Its normally around 1200 but i got it when it was on sale

[elfin flame]

Oh I know the cost. 🤣

I paid $1500 for my ftw3 3080ti, which is basically a 5% faster 3080 12GB.

[strong raft]

1200 would just be scalper/covid prices. Btw here's more like what I ran my 1080 at. Don't need gpu fans on at idle.

[upper ore]

I wanted a strix 3080 but everyone told me that its not worth the strix tax lol

[mossy venture]

I basically paid $1000 for my 3060 ti

Well, maybe more like 950

[upper ore]

Im glad to hear that because i didnt do much research on it before buying it

[mossy venture]

Crappy pre built fun :D

[upper ore]

My gpu hotspot reached temps of 90C today doing something idk what lol

Probably ark lmfao

[strong raft]

Hotspot is always 10-20 above core. Ignore unless it's around 105

[upper ore]

Should i do anything on this page?

[strong raft]

You can do the "unlock voltage monitoring" box if you want. Doesn't hurt to see the voltage.

[torpid sorrel]

guys can you help me pls

so i logged on to my pc from steam link

and i see this and i cant do anything

what is wrong with my pc and is it urgent? as in it can kill my pc

[upper ore]

They are changing depending where i look

Will do! Thoughts on these ss i sent?

[torpid sorrel]

can someone pls help me

[torpid sorrel]

.

no im not at my pc

im 1.9k miles away from it

[fresh gulch]

I’m shopping for parts on Newegg for a new computer. I need help making sure I’m buying compatible parts. Where do I go for assistance on this site?

[upper ore]

Damnit why does my ark keep crashing?

[torpid sorrel]

steam link

all i want to know is can it damage my pc

[fresh gulch]

-CPU
Intel Core i7-12700K
-MOTHER
MSI MPG Z690 CARBON WIFI DDR5 LGA 1700
-MEMORY
32GB Kingston Technology FURY Beast DDR5 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (2 x 16GB)
-CPU COOLER
MSI MAG Core Liquid 360R V2 AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
-POWER SUPPLY
CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA 850 W ATX12V / EPS12V
-CASE
Corsair 4000D Airflow CC-9011200-WW Black Steel / Plastic / Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

I already have a
-VIDEO CARD
MSI NVIDEA GTX 1650 Pro
-STORAGE n’OPERATING SYSTEM
1TB HDD with Windows 10

[torpid sorrel]

but its failed

alr

yeah

but

i took my mouse with me

only my keyboard is there

should i have them do alt+tab and see if that works

alr

ill call them rn

what would a failed amd gpu driver update do to my pc if i restarted it?

i think it tried but it failed

yeah

nope

but my friend has some

and hes like across the street from my pc

alr should i can him?

alr

and just have him restart it right?

[little osprey]

To prevent this from happening have a backup remote viewer

[torpid sorrel]

ik

[little osprey]

I use chrome remote desktop and/or teamviewer

[torpid sorrel]

ok

ok

brb im gonna call him rn

[limber oyster]

WHOO these came in

[torpid sorrel]

nvm hes in georgia

well

my grandma is home

ig

should i just have her restart the pc

with win tab

[fresh gulch]

Hoping to keep it under $1600
USA but will be moving to Portugal in 18 months, so need a power supply that can adjust

[torpid sorrel]

alr

that will take several minutes to get her to be able to do

you want to know why?

shes 87

and partially blind :(

ok

[upper ore]

Do you care about rgb?

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[fresh gulch]

I love Ruth Baden Ginsberg. As for RGB not certain

I would actually prefer a less noticeable pc. Don’t want anyone trying to sleep to be kept awake from the lights

I’m undef the impression that water cooled is best, but I’m open to being corrected

Quality cooling and minimal noise

And reasonably priced

I see that my old computer has a CORSAIR Hydro Series H80i High Performance Water/Liquid CPU Cooler. 120mm. I would like to stay with water cooled.

[brittle tinsel]

can a i5-12400f run 3200mhz ram?

32 gbs of it?

[frigid night]

Turn the curve switch off for Fan #5. That's telling FanControl to override your bios and since there is no curve set it's going to stay static default.

[fossil cedar]

Ak620 bettor and cheaper ree

[upper ore]

Alright

[fossil cedar]

Yeye I'm just pulling your legw

Noooo

[near grove]

Would it really be worth it to buy say a gen5 gpu, even when still on gen4?

Okay, I assumed that

I’ve been looking at maybe a replacement for my nvidia card. Mostly the amd open source Vulkan drivers look enticing

Also speaking of air coolers

Would there be anything similar to nh-d15 with a low profile)

Something that could fit the tiniest itx build

[fossil cedar]

I'd do something like this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CZhHtn

What was budget?

Ohhh for 1600 i can do that budget

Do they wanna oc and need wifi?

I schee

6800xt prices suck rn so I'd do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RDtGzf

Yeah i looked

[cyan ravine]

I love how I can do a normal pc build with normal parts and a normal pc case and have zero problems

Having a normal time like normally I should

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-frog-panic-frantic-yay-gif-16814992

[cyan ravine]

I really do be my own enemy

R8 my corsair cable management

[fossil cedar]

8/8 m8

[cyan ravine]

Gud enuff

Yeah this is spare parts

No extra combs

I have combs on the front

[fossil cedar]

Coarse hair

[cyan ravine]

The extensions do be coarse hairs

Coarse cooler masters

Check out dat clearance doe

I didn't even measure anything

[fossil cedar]

Yolo

[cyan ravine]

It do be yooloo

I need another pcie cover

[fossil cedar]

I'll cover your pcie slot 🙂

[cyan ravine]

Send ur finger to this address: xxxxxx

[fresh gulch]

Hi. Wasn’t sure if this list was for me. Now I see it may be. Not certain if I feel good about going with an i5 rather than an i7. My last computer has lasted me since 2014 and hoping to get one another with similar longevity

[cyan ravine]

13600KF slaps

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-funny-fingers-missing-fingers-gif-14160908

[cyan ravine]

13600KF has the power of more than an i9 from two years ago

And it's an i5

Don't get caught on the naming conventions

It's an extremely good cpu

[fossil cedar]

And it beats the 12th gen i9 in single core tasks like gaming

[cyan ravine]

Yup that extra L2 cache helps a lot

[fossil cedar]

Pretty close in multicore too

6 regular cores and 8 low power cores it shreds performance tasks

[upper ore]

@elfin flame So i just closed out of afterburner and my fans stopped. Do i need to keep it up or is there a setting that i should turn on so they dont stop as soon as i close it?

[cyan ravine]

Keep it minimised

[fresh gulch]

I thought the MSI board needs a chip with graphic processing so the KF won’t do. Needs a K

[upper ore]

Oh okay

[fossil cedar]

Nope you only need that if you don't have a graphics card

[cyan ravine]

K vs KF is just an integrated iGPU, you don't need it

[fresh gulch]

Thank you. Have to get back to work and I’ll check this out later.

[cyan ravine]

[fossil cedar]

13600k pulling a small 210w in occt small extreme avx2

Tfw cpu can pull more than your gpu

[cyan ravine]

Weak gpu

Smh

When xtx pato

Even my 6600 pulls more than ur puny cpu

[fossil cedar]

Man the FE card locking me to 220w :(

[cyan ravine]

Weakness

[fossil cedar]

Likely never i play all low settings in cpu demanding games

Still cpu bottlenecked probably

[cyan ravine]

I didn't ask for excuses

[fossil cedar]

:(

[cyan ravine]

[fossil cedar]

Okay but hear me out

Uhh

Money?

[cyan ravine]

Sell ds3h for 800$

[fossil cedar]

You wan it for 800 dabloons?

[cyan ravine]

God no

The length of this 6600 is actually low-key an amazing thing in this case

It'll divide the radiator air giving it a clear airflow chamber

Open vents of the gpu over the ram too will be nice albeit it is warm, it's active air

[fossil cedar]

Stonks

[cyan ravine]

Stonks except it's a 220t with terrible fans

So in reality the 6600 will barely survive

[fossil cedar]

Panik

[livid hound]

yo

can anyone help me?

im tryna build a computer but dk where to start

[fossil cedar]

You have the parts?

[livid hound]

yuh

oh wait

[fossil cedar]

Okay send the list or a screenshot whatevers easiest

[analog hearth]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRbey5aq/

[upper condor]

is now a good time to build a PC ??

got a ton of money recently and tryna improve mine 🙏

[mossy venture]

it depends on your budget

[upper condor]

1200-1500 and i already have storage and stuff

[mossy venture]

previous gen high end cards are all overpriced except for 6950xt at 780, which is still pretty mid imo

if youre fine with buying a used gpu it's a good time

[upper condor]

yeah used doesnt matter that much to me im just out of the loop

on whats good

[mossy venture]

can you link your current parts list?

[upper condor]

yeah gimme a sec to find it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/McthNc

the cooler i added later

but the only thing id wanna keep is storage cause i have some weird performance issues sometimes and ive wanted a more updated pc for a while

and i dont have any other brackets for amd lol

[mossy venture]

Could either do this with a used 6800xt or upgrade psu and get a better gpu if you want to https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhNMY9

iirc the u12s is enough for the 5800x3d, but id double check on ehtta

oh wait nvm

that isn't the cooler i thought it was

I would get the pa120 se or ak620

[upper condor]

would i get better performance out of just upgrading a few things in what i have or just making a new PC

[mossy venture]

much better price/perf

mobo is good, 5800x3d still one of the best gaming cpus

as opposed to paying $150 for a mobo for a 13600k or 170 for a 7600x

[upper condor]

what PSU would you recommend if i wanna upgrade it

[mossy venture]

d.f 850 atm

6800xt would def be fine on that psu though

evening

[upper condor]

which brand 6800 is best

[mossy venture]

make sure it's 6800xt

and doesn't really matter, there's no huge differences. I think there's one to avoid, but i forget which one

there's no mech 6800xt idt

[upper condor]

and how do i check my current power usage cause i have random shut offs like once every 2 days and it might be power usage

would a b450 tomahawk max handle the 5800x 3d?

[empty pollen]

yes

[upper condor]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295443202045

is this a good one @mossy venture ?

[mossy venture]

Mid price though

They were $500-550 new recently

[upper condor]

ah ok

on amazon for some reason its like 1200

[upper condor]

is the sapphire pulse one good?

or the red devil one

[obsidian wigeon]

red devil and pulse are good

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-xt-rx-68xtalfd9/p/N82E16814150848?itemPosition=1-12&exactIndex=0&isPLP=true

cheapest 6800xt so far

[upper condor]

im looking at used as well tho

[obsidian wigeon]

ah, alright

[upper condor]

coolers come with thermal paste right?

[violet nexus]

im having trouble setting up my headset for my pc

mic seems to work just fine but I can hear out of my headset

[obsidian wigeon]

Try changing audio settings

[violet nexus]

how? I'm sorry I'm really new to computers lol

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-easily-swap-between-headphones-and-speakers-in-windows-10/

[unborn mesa]

Anybody know of a decent am5 mobo

[stable knoll]

my 7900xt and 7700x build is having issues with crashing, constantly saying driver issues on witcher 3 and on spider man it's saying device hung... any help?

[potent portal]

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[potent portal]

Try that, and make sure you have your chipset and gpu drivers up to date

[stable knoll]

i updated everythiung, not sure whats up but i dont think it should be crashing smh

[potent portal]

Did you use DDU? And what memory are you running?

[stable knoll]

i used ddu to uninstall and reinstall, still having driver timeouts

i have 32 gb of ddr5-6000

[potent portal]

Ok, and does that have an EXPO profile?

[stable knoll]

i think so yea

im pretty sure its in expo/xmp

[potent portal]

XMP and EXPO are different but both can be on the same stick

[stable knoll]

i think i have expo on

[potent portal]

If it's on XMP instead it could be trying to do a timing too tight for AMD

[stable knoll]

just kinda upset i spent 2k and its starting to kinda poop out on some of these sgames

want me to check

[potent portal]

So we can rule that out yes

[stable knoll]

ok brb

and can i access bios from restarting or do i need to turn off and on

[potent portal]

Hold shift while you click restart and you get the advanced menu

[stable knoll]

kk brb

[potent portal]

You can go straight to bios from there

[stable knoll]

it was alr on expo

[potent portal]

Ok, good.

[stable knoll]

any other ideas

[potent portal]

Is your bios updated?

[stable knoll]

how can i check that

im pretty sure it is

[potent portal]

Did you update it when you built it?

[stable knoll]

the gigabyte driver menu i used to get all the drivers has it installed

[potent portal]

That doesn't always have the latest version

[stable knoll]

naw

[potent portal]

Ok what model board?

[stable knoll]

auros b650 pro ax

[potent portal]

Beta version F3G dropped yesterday that claims to improve memory compatibility

[stable knoll]

how do i update bios?"

also i have an 850w psu for a 7900xt, could it be a power draw issue:?

[potent portal]

Which 850W

[stable knoll]

corsair 850

i dont remember if its the m or whatever

[potent portal]

RM?

[stable knoll]

yea

[potent portal]

Perfect, that's not the issue then

[stable knoll]

ok cool

i think its all a gpu issue

but im running the games at 100+ fps raytracing maxed

im just stressed lol

[potent portal]

The previous bios version from November added a lot of features and fixed several things related to other parts like GPU

[stable knoll]

i was playing spiderman for 2 hours then it just stopped on me

where can i download a new bios?

[potent portal]

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_b650-aorus-pro-ax_f3g.zip?v=116d848ceadaeaa44c0e94d0023aca21

[stable knoll]

and how do i install it ive heard bios updates are scary

[potent portal]

Nah they're no big deal at all

[stable knoll]

how do i go about it

i have the zip

[potent portal]

Especially now with flashback being more common

Open the zip and copy the file ending in .f3g to a flash drive

Head into bios and there'll be a section for flash bios, I think gigabyte called it q-flash or something

[stable knoll]

yea

[potent portal]

You can use the search function to find it

[stable knoll]

cool cool

its in the easy mode i think

ima try this then probably head to bed but can i add you and tty in the morning if it doesnt work

[potent portal]

I'll be busy in the morning but there's plenty of other capable people here

[stable knoll]

cool cool

no one has helped me very much on any server except update my drivers xd

[potent portal]

tbf that is the most common solution

[stable knoll]

alright bios updated

lets see

[potent portal]

You'll probably have to enable expo again if you haven't already

[stable knoll]

oh tru

ill do that tmrw

do you know how to install drivers that arent adrenaline edition for amd cards?

on reddit someone said the pro/enterprise editions of the drivers prevented these timeouts

[potent portal]

I'll take a look, sometimes you can other times you can't

[stable knoll]

alright cool

im off to bed but thanks for the help

[potent portal]

I'll ping you so you can see it easily later. G'night.

[potent portal]

I'm not sure how well pro drivers will work since they only list workstation GPUs as compatible with the driver but you can try this version. It's a "system builder edition". https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-si-7900xtx-7900xt
Here's the pro drivers if you really want to try it. These won't be optimized for new releases. https://www.amd.com/en/support/professional-graphics/amd-radeon-pro/amd-radeon-pro-w6000-series/amd-radeon-pro-w6800

[little osprey]

Hey all

7700X and 7900xtx with the RM850X 2021 enough no OC or anything crazy

[fossil cedar]

That's plenty

Even with oc

[little osprey]

The RMX 2021 or Asus Thor (Original First One) Same price?

[fossil cedar]

If you're in the US, atm enermax revolution DF

[little osprey]

Thats about how much i can get RMX or Asus for

[fossil cedar]

If you can get an RMX 850w for 110$ go for it

[little osprey]

How is the 1000E?

[mossy venture]

rm1000e?

[little osprey]

RM1000E for 10 more if i went with 7900x a 7900xtx

[mossy venture]

but what is the actual price

[obsidian wigeon]

850w is enough for the hardware

[little osprey]

Corsair RM1000E for 149

[mossy venture]

the d.f 850 is 108

[little osprey]

7900x and 7900xtx on 850?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

it will be more than fine

also if you're gaming 7900x is a waste of money

[little osprey]

i do streaming to

[mossy venture]

streaming is more gpu focused

with gpu encoding

[obsidian wigeon]

13700K will do you great anyway

[mossy venture]

cpu encoding is painful, I would not recommend it

[obsidian wigeon]

Or 13600K even

[mossy venture]

even with a 13900k or 7950x

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

Just use the gpu instead

[mossy venture]

what's your total budget for the pc?

and have you bought anything yet?

[little osprey]

nothing yet

[mossy venture]

budget?

[little osprey]

i saw the 7700x with free ram at microcenter

[mossy venture]

.

[little osprey]

no budget

7900xtx in the build i want

[mossy venture]

if you didn't have a budget you'd buy a 13900k and 4090 and be done with it

anyways https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HW6JW4

and could switch to ddr4 if you want it cheaper

[tawny fiber]

Unless the only game he plays is warzone lol

Where 7900xtx has a lead

[obsidian wigeon]

and lose out on other benefits 4090 brings?

it's not like the higher fps on 7900xt is gonna make a meaningful difference anyway, it's high enough

[fossil cedar]

Warzone is pretty cpu bound anyway so

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[fossil cedar]

I'd probably grab this board instead unless it's missing some feature but apart from that it looks good
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8ncG3C/gigabyte-z790-ud-ac-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z790-ud-ac

[compact light]

hey guys so basically I was looking for some good fans for a decent price for my friend so he has spots for 1 back 2 top and 3 front (or 2 140) so I have come to 1x Scythe Kaze Flex 120(1800rpm not 1200) back and 2x Scythe Kaze Flex 140 front
(total being around 42 euro)
any thoughts on this also if this choice is good is it better to get the 140 square basically with corner pieces or just round?

[fossil cedar]

They should do 3 120 in my opinion also, a 5 pack of arctic p12 fans should be around €35

[jagged ember]

P12 best

[mossy venture]

p14s would like a word with you

[jagged ember]

Wait p16?

[stable knoll]

im having driver timeout issues on a brand new 7900xt, does anyone have any solutions? thanks

[fossil cedar]

not actual fan

[jagged ember]

God damnit

My hopes are dashed

[fossil cedar]

what does the error say? whats your power supply and do you have any overclocks on?

[stable knoll]

the amd software always says driver timeout, on spiderman it's saying smth like device hung

i have an 850w but i disabled all overclocks and tried undervolting

[fossil cedar]

can you try get a screenshot of it?

and what model 850w?

actually since its just drivers and not blue screening

[stable knoll]

yea i have the corsair 850rm

[fossil cedar]

youre fine on that, i would probably try an uninstall with DDU, then reinstall the drivers but go into advanced and press the box to do a clean installation

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[jagged ember]

Driver reinstall indeed

[stable knoll]

i tried that but didnt do a clean install, sounds good

also someone recommended reseating my gpu shouold i do that

[jagged ember]

It's called like factory install or something

Sure, you could but not sure that's the issue yet

[stable knoll]

cool cool

[fossil cedar]

no point if it wasnt making proper context it would boot so

[stable knoll]

should i install the drivers with adrenaline ?

ive heard that it can cause issues

[fossil cedar]

Adrenaline is the drivers afaik

[stable knoll]

ahhh gotcha

im installing know ill lyk how it goesd

[fossil cedar]

good luck

make sure you followed the DDU guide first

[analog pulsar]

Rawr was saying DDU doesn't like amd

[analog pulsar]

but hes talking about this amd love spitting this error but not saying what the cause but since it has to do with amd software im guesing amd gpu

[frozen mauve]

I need some help,Yesterday i tried to replace my Ryzen 3 3200g for a Ryzen 5 5600g, but i didnt update my msi b450m max motherboard's BIOS, so when i turned it on, all the fans and lights were working, but no display was being output to the monitor. as if the HDMI cable wasn't plugged in (it was.) So then I realized I needed to update BIOS, so I switched the CPU back to the 3200, and the pc wouldnt even boot. I freaked out, cleaned the cpu, the fan, the slot, put the 3200 back in, and now it runs, but like it was with the 5600. No display, everything running, power button not lit.

TLDR; replaced my new cpu with my old one and fans running but no display or power button

[mossy venture]

Have you tried clearing cmos?

Also iirc your mobo has a bios flash button, so might be worth trying that and then booting with the 5600g

[frozen mauve]

clearing cmos didnt do anything, what is a bios flash button? i tried putting a new bios update on a flash and booting it with the 5600, but nothing happened.

[mossy venture]

Look on the Io on the back of the mobo, is there a little black button next to a usb?

[frozen mauve]

im not sure

its in the case right now

[mossy venture]

Like

Look at the very back of your motherboard from outside of the case

[frozen mauve]

is it a little tiny square button or round?

[mossy venture]

Pretty sure it's round but it could be different from mine

[frozen mauve]

i dont think i can send pictures

[mossy venture]

You can't, but you can dm me

Also, if it is a bios flash button, you have to name the file on the USB after unzipping it

I believe it's MSI.ROM, but it is case sensitive and I don't remember if it's all caps or if it's msi.ROM

Msis website could walk you through it

[mossy venture]

Msi I know for sure is case sensitive from experience

I just forget what needs to be capitalized

[edgy hazel]

anyone able to help with a gaming pc build?

[frozen mauve]

nevermind, mine does not have a bios flash button

[mossy venture]

A parts list?

[edgy hazel]

no assembling

[mossy venture]

I'd look up a tutorial on YouTube

Itd be better than any instructions we can give you over text

[edgy hazel]

i know the basics, i mean its been a while. just a few small questions

[mossy venture]

Sure, shoot

[edgy hazel]

thermal paste goes on top of the processor?

[mossy venture]

Yes

Make sure you tighten cooler in an x pattern

[edgy hazel]

and that is the only location that needs it?

[mossy venture]

And not one all the way at once

Yes

[edgy hazel]

roger thank you

[earnest olive]

graphics card needs it too, it's pre-applied though so you don't need to do it initially

can help to apply new thermal paste to it after a few years

[mossy venture]

Fair point

[stable knoll]

getting a driver timeout error with a 7900xt, does anyone have any ideas to try and fix it? i've tried ddu and reinstalls.

[south cliff]

What gpu should I get in replacement of my 6700xt

[mossy venture]

I've been seeing this a lot recently, I think amds most recent drivers are messed up at this point

[stable knoll]

oh really

that sucks

[mossy venture]

I'd try rolling back drivers

[mossy venture]

Budget, country, use case

[stable knoll]

when i rolled back i got a weird error, but ill try!

[mossy venture]

Ah alr

Maybe try updating then, if you haven't yet

[stable knoll]

do i need to use ddu to uninstall or can i just rollback by downloading them

[south cliff]

500 to 600 US

[mossy venture]

Used 3080/6800xt/6900xt or new 6800

[mossy venture]

Can just download them, but if issues continue I'd ddu

[stable knoll]

im getting an error installing

"error opening file for writing"

[south cliff]

What would you do in my situation

[mossy venture]

Used gpu

[fossil cedar]

did you uninstall the drivers first?

[south cliff]

Which one

I’m thinking 3080

[fossil cedar]

depends on the pricing you can find tbh

[south cliff]

Well 3080 500

Used

[fossil cedar]

but honestly since you have a 6700xt id wait til 4070 type cards come out worst thing, prices will go down, best case youll get better perf for same price

thats decent

[south cliff]

I need a better psu

[south cliff]

It’s brok

Broken

Cat Friday

Fried it

[fossil cedar]

oof howd you manage that?

[south cliff]

She puked on top of the computer I got on GPU

[upper condor]

i have a key for windows 10 pro but im currently on windows 10 home(unactivated) and whenever i try to restart it says this. anyone know how to fix?

[fossil cedar]

you should just be able to active the key in setting you don't need to reinstall windows

[upper condor]

yeah in the settings it doesnt let me either

im not sure why

0xC004F050 is the code which says i need to use a different code or something cause it cant be used on my version

[stable knoll]

when i have no driver, should it be showing up under display devices in windows?

there is no 7900xt, just a generic device with the little yellow icon displaying an error

[fossil cedar]

Sounds like you'll need to reinstall windows completely to do ot then

Although try using the sfc and dism section of this bat file

!bat

[still roost]

Link to a general windows fixes and scans by Risen
https://github.com/Ryzen5950XT/Windows-stuff/releases/download/Windows-utilities-and-fixes-batch-file/Win.Utils.Fixes.Latest.launcher.bat

[south cliff]

What is a good price for a used 3070

Should I get a 3070 for that or spend the extra money to get a 3080

Where tho

Reddit?

And will it work with a 650 watt pay

Psu

Ok I will see

[strong raft]

Hopefully at least B tier. Lower PL or UV & would definitely be ok. Doesn't take much to make it close to 3070 wattage w/ a somewhat small performance drop.

[mossy venture]

Honestly should be fine at stock for gaming if it's A tier

[south cliff]

It’s booty it’s like a segotep

[south cliff]

Well I’m going to buy a gpu first

I found a 6900xt for like 600

Where is that Newegg

[cyan ravine]

Ah that sale is gone

Rip

But 6950XT OCF is now literally the cheapest of the RDNA 2 flagships for 779

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ts7G3C/asrock-radeon-rx-6950-xt-16-gb-oc-formula-video-card-rx6950xt-ocf-16g

[cyan ravine]

It's probably out of stock right now but yes it's usually Newegg iirc

[south cliff]

Well I only got 600 at most

[cyan ravine]

Hmm, I take it back, it's not out of stock, but it's 800 from a third party

So newegg themselves are probably out of stock

If you found a 6900XT for 600 used, then as long as the seller is genuine and you use PayPal goods and services then you should be ok

[south cliff]

Same

[stray stone]

Cards USED to drop pretty quickly at 6mo then 1yr

But, quite frankly, unless you need to play THE LATEST games, it just is not worth getting the latest generation.

Granted, I am trolling through some of my older games like Gotham Knight, but being able to play them at almost full effects ON A 4K MONITOR (at 4K) and keep it at 60fps.....

I love ray-tracing, but I love $600 too.... 😦

[untold vessel]

Guys

For the 13600K, at a price of $320, is it worth it to go down to the 13600KF for $280?

In other words, is the iGPU worth $40 in the long run?

[cyan ravine]

Depends if you need quicksync

Igpu is a nice-to-have but functionally you shouldn't need it if not for rendering with quicksync

Extra display-out is nice as well, but again, a nice-to-have

[untold vessel]

What is quicksync, and how do I know if I need it?

[cyan ravine]

It's hardware encoding

For like, streaming and video rendering

[untold vessel]

What's an extra display out?

[cyan ravine]

The means to use the igpu for another display

[untold vessel]

Can a k displauy on 4 monitors while the kf can only do 3, for example?

[cyan ravine]

KF can't display on any monitors

[untold vessel]

Oh wow, that's super cool; How does one get it to work and how does it affect performance?

[untold vessel]

I'm a bit confused

[cyan ravine]

Ok

You know basic pc's yes?

[untold vessel]

Yes yes yes

I think

[cyan ravine]

Like a regular old dell

Or hp

[untold vessel]

Oh yeah OF COURSE

[cyan ravine]

Yeah, those often don't have gpu's

[untold vessel]

CAPOS LKOCK TEST

[cyan ravine]

Just iGPU's in their cpu

[untold vessel]

Oh whoops

[cyan ravine]

So that's how they get it to display

[untold vessel]

Hey random question but how do I get my taskbar to disappear in when I'm ion full screen

[cyan ravine]

Intel uses the F mark on their chips to say no igpu is in there

[untold vessel]

I cant see what I'm typing and cant do a Minimized tab

[cyan ravine]

Click on discord

[untold vessel]

Oh Yes I know this part

[cyan ravine]

Well that's really the short of it, getting a K just means you can plug in a display into it if you want more

[untold vessel]

plug a display *int it?o

into**

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[untold vessel]

What do you mean?

[cyan ravine]

Mobos have monitor ports

[untold vessel]

I thought only gpu cards have physical outlets to plug wires like hdmi and displaypart

oh yeah! how silly of me

why wouldn't the kf vs the k be able to utilize those ports on the same mobo?

[cyan ravine]

One can say you can offload some gpu overhead by running a second monitor off your igpu but it's never worth $40 for that

So K has the igpu thus can use it

KF has no igpu so plugging it will do nothing

[untold vessel]

Ah

I see now

Hold on now

[cyan ravine]

So really it just boils down to quicksync

[untold vessel]

I have an 11400f

and a 3070 FTW

[cyan ravine]

Which is fine

Good pairing tbh

[untold vessel]

if I switch my display port plug into my mobo instead of gpu

[strong raft]

F means no igpu, therefore mobo port no* worky...

[cyan ravine]

Nothing will happen

[untold vessel]

will i see nothing

or nothing bad will happen

-?

[cyan ravine]

Nothing will happen

[untold vessel]

as in I will see a black screen?

[cyan ravine]

Screen won't even turn on

[untold vessel]

OOOOH

Thank you so much

So, honestly, just for that, it's not worth $40

[cyan ravine]

It might flicker on to detect being plugged but nothing will actually happen

Ye exactly

Quick sync is the main reason for going K over KF

For new gen chips

[untold vessel]

but what about this talk about quicksync

[cyan ravine]

It's hardware encoding for video

[untold vessel]

What is hardware encoding?

[cyan ravine]

Think, streaming or like, premiere pro, sony vegas

It encodes video

[untold vessel]

What is that?

[cyan ravine]

Essentially

Do you want to make videos? Lotsa videos?

Stream every day to twitch?

Upload to youtube?

Work on movie production

It is basically a hardware tool designed for those sorts of tasks

It encodes and decodes video as a hardware accelerator

[little osprey]

Gonna do a bit of experimenting, would anyone know what I can fit on the roof of a P300A as far as fans go?

And should I go for 240mm or 280mm?

[untold vessel]

Okay, perfect, in that case, aboabsolutely, 13600K all the way

[strong raft]

Personally I just look for when a K sku is within $20ish of KF.

[cyan ravine]

Yeah $20 is worth it

$40? Eh not really

[gentle pollen]

What's the most unique or crazy build y'all have seen in #build-pics ?

[little osprey]

whats the cheapest motherboard you guys would recommend for use with 12100f

[gentle pollen]

What about custom cases?

[little osprey]

stuff from forks

Any of these worth looking at at all