building-and-recc-chat

[south cliff]

I can take it apart if you want me to

[potent portal]

That's a sign of a short

[south cliff]

Solder

So it’s done ?

[potent portal]

Was it on when the incident happened?

[south cliff]

Well when she did it there wasn’t anything in the pc until I turned it on and nothing happened and I looked a the gpu

So I kinda did it to myself

[potent portal]

Oof yeah that may have killed the core or memory depending on where the short was

[south cliff]

She did it like 2 times before but it was very little and didnt get anywhere

Im going to check

[potent portal]

That cat is trying to kill you by starting a fire

[south cliff]

Again and see if it’s black

Well

[full elk]

how do I fix the random deadpixel boxes that randomly appear on the screen?

[cyan ravine]

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[upper ore]

So im trying to download league and this pooped up. What is it?

[cyan ravine]

Probably this

[full elk]

ah alright ill try that

[potent portal]

Older games need older versions of that framework. It's a windows feature, go ahead and install.

[frigid night]

It's a window telling you that the game needs .NET Framework 3.5 to run. Go ahead and download and install.

[upper ore]

Thank you

Well this new pc is a freaking BEAST! Im able to download multiple bigger games and its not even breaking a sweat! lol

[full elk]

Yeah I def need the ddu, this is what happened after I booted into safe mode lol

[cyan ravine]

Looks normal?

[frigid night]

That's normal. Safe mode loads as basic of drivers it can.

[full elk]

everything zoomed in like crazy

[cyan ravine]

Yes that's normal

[full elk]

ohh

[cyan ravine]

Keep going with ddu

[full elk]

Do I just do clean and restart?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Pick the gpu you had in there before

[full elk]

Alright

[cyan ravine]

Then clean and restart

[full elk]

ye and the nvidia

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[south cliff]

@potent portal

See they look kinda black compared to the other ones

[full elk]

Those dead pixel boxes that were on my screen make my skin itch I hate seeing them 😭

[full elk]

So now I reinstall the GeForce experience thing and allat?

[cyan ravine]

Ye install drivers

Go straight to nvidia's website

If not already having them

[full elk]

alright bet, thanks

[upper ore]

Why do they all come in sets of 3? I only need 1

[cyan ravine]

Rip

Oh yeah ST's are 3's only

P12 ARGB has singles

[upper ore]

What should i download to use to monitor everything's temps?

And to control my gpu fans if i need to

[south cliff]

@potent portal

[potent portal]

At least that's before the power delivery so it's repairable assuming everything did its job. But probably not repairable by you, or even me for that matter.

[weary galleon]

Argus Monitor is pretty nice, there's a trial and I ended up buying a couple of licenses for ~$15

Does both temp monitoring and fan control

[upper ore]

This popped up when i tried to open, OpenRGB.

[south cliff]

So what do you think I should do

[south cliff]

Could I get someone to like re solder it or smt

[upper ore]

Honestly pretty good results for Cyberpunk at the settings i was running

[vestal siren]

could someone recommend me a good motherboard please I have i7 13th gen and 4080

[south cliff]

Gulp

[potent portal]

More info, run anyway

[potent portal]

It's more than just a resolder, you have to test each power stage for damage individually as well as the core and memory by probing the right spots with a multimeter, then once you've isolated the short you need to determine if it needs to be replaced or bypassed, and then you would have to solder it by heating the whole board to 120C on a hot plate, then using a heat gun and soldering iron to remove and then replace or bypass damaged components.
The risk of further damage is very high for someone that's never done it before.

Buildzoid (actually hardcore overclocking on YouTube) does quite a few different repairs like this if you want to see the process.

[upper ore]

So its safe?

[potent portal]

Yes

I wouldn't recommend it if it was unknown or unsafe

[upper ore]

Just making sure lol

[south cliff]

Golly I didn’t know that much had to be done do you think I should try and get it iced or just get a new card

[south cliff]

Trust me I’m not doing it

[potent portal]

Considering it's only a $400 card you're better off getting a new one

[brittle spindle]

I bent my pins what do I do

[south cliff]

Well I could get it fixed would it’s life span go down

[vague oracle]

Would a 4080 be fine on a 750w PSU? Or is that too little if paired with a 5900x

[south cliff]

I would get 850 at minimum just because o nvidia sometimes random power spikes

[vague oracle]

It’s an HX750 so it’s a pretty solid A tier psu

[frigid night]

I think its been recommended at least an a tier 850w

[obsidian wigeon]

750W can be fine if the cpu isn't hungry

[obsidian wigeon]

Not really, the spikes are very controlled this gen. 4090 only peaked at 500w, and the spikes are very flat and controlled

4080 should consume less

[wheat coral]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KingFloppa./saved/s36VFT

zwopar build

[gentle pollen]

Out of curiosity, what would you guys choose if you had a budget of $2,000 USD to build a high end gaming server to run at home?

[potent portal]

Game servers typically don't need a GPU at all so I'd go for a threadripper and 128gb ram

[upper ore]

Could a 140mm fan fit here without it being cramped because of the vertical gpu?

[potent portal]

Yeah totally. You've got the sliding rail and everything for adjusting where it goes.

[upper ore]

Alright ill probably be getting this unless you say otherwise https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-uf-sl120-3w-case-fan/p/1YF-005G-000B2

[upper ore]

Also how do you use this? When i adjust the colors for my gpu they actually dont adjust on the gpu

[ornate condor]

asus b660 proart creator d4
asus prime b660 plus d4
which one is better ?

[mossy venture]

Proart

It's a "high end" board, which feels weird to say about a non z_90

[woven horizon]

Pray you can fix it.

[ornate condor]

Btw does b660 mobos support 13th gen cpus ?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

with bios update

but b660 with flashback isn't very common

[ornate condor]

But you can bios update with 12th gen cpu right ?

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

[potent portal]

Too bad even the lowest end Celeron is $70 used unless you ship from China, then it's $55

[strong raft]

$100 mobo 3 weeks ago, hehe. Yea cheap used 12th gen isn't a thing even though G6900 is $42 msrp. After 3770 think I'll be plenty happy w/ 12400(T) for a while though, then eventually do 12700K/13600K. (Got old pcs or roommate's pc to upgrade also). My current overkill purchase:

[upper frigate]

Trying to figure out what would be the best G skill trident rgb 32(16x2) ram for MSI Z490 A pro motherboard

[potent portal]

For which processor

And budget

[fossil cedar]

That looks like ballistonks

[potent portal]

That board supports everything from a 10100 to a 11900k, all with varying speeds recommended. Which one are you pairing? And how much are you willing to spend on it?

[upper frigate]

It’s a Christmas gift for my son for his gaming rig so I’m just trying to get the best that G Skill has to offer. He wants the rgb feature that the trident comes with. Sorry I’m a little computer illiterate

He has an i9 processor

[potent portal]

Ok well the "best" kit matching those broad specifications is over $500

This one is still great for a little less money https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820374187

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fBLwrH/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c18d-32gtzr

[potent portal]

If you were going more budget oriented that would be fine too

[fossil cedar]

The average person won't notice, plus that will be gear 2 which can actually perform worse in games

Also jeez trident z are overpriced

[potent portal]

Yes they are lol

Other brands can hit $80 for a similar kit to that one bacca posted

[strong raft]

Yea I vote the $110ish Tridents at most. Yep Pato... (recent usual is $130 so couldn't resist when I saw $90), Ebay prices a bit wack unless we had to have a 4dimm setup for looks.

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7RYcf/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tf3d432g3600hc18jdc01 i mean

[fossil cedar]

65$ for 3200 vs 105$ for trident z 3200 💀

Almost double

Okay well no rgb but still

[potent portal]

In order to make proper use of a better kit like I linked it does require a bit of extra effort

[fossil cedar]

Overclonk them

[ornate condor]

I don't see crucial ballistics kit around anymore. Are they discontinued?

[potent portal]

Yes

[ornate condor]

[mossy venture]

that happened quite a while ago

[fossil cedar]

Sad looks like they're 16gb rev e instead of rev b tho :(

Like over 6 months ago

[potent portal]

Yep any leftover new stock worth getting is picked over by now

[mossy venture]

shortly after d5 was announced iirc

[ornate condor]

Yeah it's been quiet awhile I moved on to ddr5

[fossil cedar]

Crucial ddr5 is a joke it's quite sad

[ornate condor]

I had one of them lol . I was like where is the ram ? Is that ssd ? Lol

There was only 3 small chips at corner and nothing else lol

[strong raft]

Yea rev b is the 3600 stuff but then a chance of SR and/or mexico made. I was either gonna do SR 4 dimms of 3000c15(more common), or this. For 2 dimms afaik Dual Rank is "better". https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gCCFf7/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-bl2k16g32c16u4b

[vague oracle]

The 8Gb 3600cl16 sticks are rev E right?

[potent portal]

Technically speaking yes DR is better for most tasks

[vague oracle]

Either that or I got the rev B in them is insanely good at overclocking

[fossil cedar]

8gb stick?

[potent portal]

Yes usually, that's why that was the go-to set of specs

[vague oracle]

Ahh ok

Lol I bought two sets of them

[fossil cedar]

Not necessarily some 3200 16gb sticks ones are rev b too

[vague oracle]

Both sets hit 3866 with cas14 with the rest of the timings stock or loose with ease

On a 5900x

[ornate condor]

16gb sticks it was first ddr5 kit lol I preordered it for 12900k

[potent portal]

Early adopters be like

[fossil cedar]

8gb rev b sucks but 16gb rev b very good and vice versa for rev e lol except 16gb rev is still decent afaik

[ornate condor]

Yeah we have decent ddr5 kits now

I got 64gb 6400mhz kit

[vague oracle]

I think it’s safe to assume getting to 3866mhz with a cas latency of 14 is revE?

[fossil cedar]

If it's 8gb sticks yea if it's 16gb sticks it's rev b

[potent portal]

Well if by "decent" you mean it can beat DDR4 at a small price premium yes. We're still not even seeing the max jedec speed.

[vague oracle]

Yeah 8Gb sticks

[fossil cedar]

What's the max jedec?

[vague oracle]

Bought 2 2x8 kits a while ago and I’m pretty sure they’re up there silicon lottery wise

[fossil cedar]

Rev e so

[strong raft]

My Ebay 3600 was SR so I sold it. Rev E usually has so much headroom though. Should be fun to mess around, this weekend.

[potent portal]

7600 last I checked

[ornate condor]

I mean ddr5 kits are for alright price now

There's no big reason to build ddr4 anymore

[vague oracle]

Outside of US…

[ornate condor]

Amd killed ddr4 completely anyway so intel probably will follow next year

[fossil cedar]

Yeah we haven't seen xmp kits that hi but we've seen overclocked over 8000 MHz I believe

[potent portal]

Yep and using DDR4 with midrange 13th gen does actually hurt performance now

[potent portal]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267

[ornate condor]

Btw whats amd expo ? is that something like xmp ?

[potent portal]

Yes similar to xmp but optimized for amd. It tunes secondary and tertiary timings in addition to primary.

[strong raft]

5500c20 is fun though (even if just buildzoid & a $400mobo or w/e) 🤣

[ornate condor]

Imagine not manually tuning your rams

[fossil cedar]

Ddr5 pricing is pretty bad over here still and also budget builds are still a thing

[mossy venture]

UK has decent pricing on d5

[ornate condor]

I can't OC my 6400mhz kit couse z690 is acting weird with 64gb kit

[potent portal]

Well yeah did you expect more from a first gen platform

Z690 especially hates 4x dimms

[ornate condor]

it was OCing good with 32gb kit but acting weird with 64gb kit

Z690 d5 mobos definitely don't need extra 2 slot lol it slowing down as crazy with 4dimms

Strix Z790A don't have ddr5 version

[potent portal]

Many Z690 boards can't even hit the minimum speed of 4800 with 4 sticks

It's amusing looking through a QVL and seeing not one set of 4 dimms validated

[tawny fiber]

What was the cheapest lga 1700 motherboard with dual bios?

[potent portal]

That's a fairly uncommon feature. Let me see what I can find.

[fossil cedar]

Ehhhh it looks decent but £1 is like 1.22$

[fossil cedar]

Why dual bios?

[potent portal]

I don't think there's any below $400 with that feature. It's been mostly replaced by the cheaper to implement flash buttons.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dk8bt6/msi-meg-z690-unify-atx-lga1700-motherboard-meg-z690-unify

[empty pollen]

dual bios sounds like a very picky feature

[potent portal]

It's almost entirely unnecessary these days too

Flashback solves 99% of cases where it was needed

[paper summit]

Well its safi lol

[obsidian wigeon]

^

flashback is replacing dual bios since it's useless with it

[empty pollen]

what was the program to monitor cpu core temps and all those fancy numbers?

[jagged ember]

Hwinfo64? MSI afterburner?

[empty pollen]

yes hwinfo

[south cliff]

Oh my bad I didn’t know

[empty pollen]

in fact 750w is the recommended wattage for a 4080

[fossil cedar]

I mean it was for 3080 too

And 4080 power spikes way less than 3080

[vague oracle]

So if I have a 3080 on a 750 without problems a 4080 will be fine?

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[upper ore]

My friend just sent me what he wants for his pc parts. He wants to pair a thread ripper with a 3060. Lol and he wants 64gb of 3600 ram. Keep in mind he only plays video games. 😂🤦‍♂️

[analog pulsar]

@potent portal umm my pc isn't turning on

I came home to it off

I press power button and there's no life

False alarm the psu cord came loose like a tiny bit

I was so scared

It was the first one it's just very straight bc it's running out of length

[desert gulch]

Never thought verticle power cord management was this possible

I'm impressed

[brittle spindle]

im not sure where to put this but my headphones stopped working on my pc, its been working since i bought them by plugging them in, but i installed a new cpu and ram and it doesnt show me its opption

nevermind i fixed it, i overclocked the bios and then reinstalled windows

[cyan ravine]

Reinstalling windows would have fixed it

[desert gulch]

I'm not even gonna begin to ask how you overclock bios

[earnest olive]

i did it once

[cyan ravine]

What happened

[earnest olive]

rate my overclocked bios (cinebench stable)

[cyan ravine]

Sett sett

/10

[earnest olive]

i disagree, i think it deserves a 设置第一显卡/10

[shut rampart]

Hey I keep on getting out of Video Memory Trying to Allocate a Texture

How do I fix

[earnest olive]

removing your techie role immediately

[earnest olive]

what graphics card do you have and what are you trying to do

[shut rampart]

6700 xt

And playing valorant

And have to fully restart my pc while in a game

:/

[earnest olive]

wack

yeah i am pretty sure your 6700xt is good enough for valorant

[shut rampart]

Yha but idk it keep on crashing

[earnest olive]

i'd try this first

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[shut rampart]

Ok

Then?

[earnest olive]

try it

get fresh radeon drivers installed

then try to play again

[shut rampart]

Ok after I win this game I will

[earnest olive]

i like the confidence lol

[shut rampart]

5-1 rn

[cyan ravine]

[earnest olive]

i am the worst valorant player in the world, could never be me

🤡

[shut rampart]

Already I’m finish they ff

[prisma pasture]

Need some help I heard a pop and my display cut out I don’t wanna believe it’s my gpu but that is probably it can someone make sure?

Whatever pictures are I needed I have then

[mossy venture]

Sounds like psu

Could you make a pcpartpicker.com list of your build?

Or if it's pre built link it?

[prisma pasture]

Ok give me a sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/McChubbems/builds/#view=HVjp99

There ya go was one already

[mossy venture]

Have you tried turning it on yet? If not, dont

[prisma pasture]

I did against better judgement and nothing happened the monitors just stayed black

I mean it was still on after the pop I had to turn it off after I got worried about it

[mossy venture]

Sounds like psu, I'm not sure on trouble shooting steps so I'm going to let someone else help you in fear of making something worse

@cyan ravine you around?

[cyan ravine]

Hi I'm fleicc

[prisma pasture]

Hello am having issues as stated above

Any help?

[cyan ravine]

You had a pop on that psu?

Can you think where you may have heard it

[prisma pasture]

Yes but I don’t think it’s the psu as everything still turns on

I was just playing games and I heard a pop and the screen went black no idea where in the pc

Also I can’t find any burn marks anywhere I can look at

[cyan ravine]

Turn it off

[prisma pasture]

It has been off

[cyan ravine]

Leave it off

[prisma pasture]

Ok

[cyan ravine]

Ok since you did turn it on

What happened

Black screen? Nothing?

[prisma pasture]

Yeah

Nothing happened

[cyan ravine]

Any light it got stuck on?

On the mobo

[prisma pasture]

Wdym

All my leds turned on didn’t see any extra lights or less then what’s supposed to be on

[cyan ravine]

When you turn on a pc

It goes through a post cycle

Basically "IS THIS OK? yes
WHAT ABOUT RAM? yes
VIDEO CARD? yes"

It has 4 lights on the mobo normally to tell you which part of that process

Do you remember seeing those lights and what one it may have been stuck on?

If not it's ok

Don't turn it back on

For starters, replacing the psu and it's cables would be your first step

But if you saw what part of the post cycle it got caught on you could maybe know what else may be broken

[prisma pasture]

Don’t remember at all didn’t even know that was a thing

[cyan ravine]

Ok start by doing the psu warranty claim

Then once you get a replacement, turn it on and see what it does

[prisma pasture]

Ok what would be the danger of trying that now?

[cyan ravine]

Unfortunately that unit is an amazing unit, way overbuilt for the specs, but we don't know if it's faulty so it could lead to maybe more damage

We don't know enough to safely turn it on again

I have that exact psu btw, it handles a 12900K and 3090

Very overkill

It shouldn't have died but we don't know what could be wrong

[prisma pasture]

Yeah ik I wanted overkill to just make sure I was safe

Btw wanted to ask is it possible that the psu wasn’t affected or does a pop always mean psu

[cyan ravine]

Pop means something broke

A cap went boom

But which cap? There's dozens maybe hundreds in a system

Black screen also tells that something is dead

I personally wouldn't try turning it on again in case the psu is a dodgy bad egg

I had a 1650W kill a bunch of hardware through many warranty claims earlier this year

Similar situation, overkill psu

I would start with the psu personally

[prisma pasture]

So overkill is sometimes bad?

[cyan ravine]

No

Overkill is good in this situation

But if the psu is faulty then it's just bad news bears

[prisma pasture]

Ok should I also try to return any other parts or just the psu

[cyan ravine]

Just the psu first

[prisma pasture]

Ok

[cyan ravine]

Then you check the debug lights when it's replaced

During the post

After you turn it on finally

And see what it gets caught on

Red is cpu normally, yellow is ram

White gpu

Green is (possibly) all good

Some boards ignore this colour code

But they all follow that sequence 1-4

[prisma pasture]

I do sometimes see a white light on my mobo but didn’t know what it was for I don’t wanna say it was that but it coulda been

[cyan ravine]

Well white is gpu

And a black screen could well mean the gpu died

But you won't know for sure until you get the psu replaced

[prisma pasture]

Ok will do

[cyan ravine]

You may be out of a pc for a little bit

[prisma pasture]

Figured that

[cyan ravine]

@prisma pasture just to be clear

Make double sure you put the cables in correctly with the new psu

8 pin to psu, 4+4 to cpu

8 pin to psu, 6 + 2 to gpu

16+8 to psu, 24 to mobo

You can definitely cause a pop and kill a part wiring the cables backwards

Not saying you did, but just for clarification

[prisma pasture]

Ok yeah I’ve had this pc for a year and this is first problem I’ve had with it

[cyan ravine]

Ah fair enough

Good luck, hope it was just the psu

[strong raft]

Sometimes the psu side of 24pin has a 10pin part, figured i'd mention. Probably to be a lil different than all the 8pin spots.

[cyan ravine]

Truth

[prisma pasture]

My dad found a psu he got bout 2 years back and everything booted up fine all the lights went through and it stayed on at the dram

He also said to just boot it up with my psu cause he thinks it’s just the gpu since it booted up fine with it before

[strong raft]

@gentle pollen Not too shabby. Digging the green, reminds me of 1 of my dad's old setups because I had blue fans while he had Green & Matrix screensaver. Cool how it's pulsating like Razer stuff often does. What's with the Fractal Torrent?

[gentle pollen]

Thanks, most of my pheripherals except for the keyboard and mousepad are Razer. The fractal torrent is waiting for when I order the new pc parts in about a week.

[strong raft]

Oh nice, good case. If enough room we could do old/new pc in about me spot. I lose track of all the builds around. Guess I also need a case for the 12400 setup actually. I might do the smaller of the 2 ATX torrents personally, not sure yet.

[gentle pollen]

0.o that'd be cool.

[kindred pawn]

if i bought ram would that improve my fps in game

[gentle pollen]

My plant is to do a front mount 360 lf2 in push/pull and 3 P14s on the bottom.

[kindred pawn]

warzone specifically

[gentle pollen]

Depends on if your using up all the ram in your system currently.

More ram does not = more fps all the time.

[kindred pawn]

so with my rtx 3060 and my r7 5700g how what do i upgrade for more fps

[gentle pollen]

Having more ram only helps if your using up all or nearly all the ram your system currently has.

[strong raft]

Perhaps sell 5700g replace w/ 5700/5800X. The g model usually for igpu & less cache makes it perform worse.

[gentle pollen]

Which is being used more?

I can run games like Halo, MW2, Valorant, etc just fine on a I7-10700f which is about the same as your 5700g. So you'd probably be better off upgrading your GPU.

Oh yeah, Chillin how do you think my Fractal Torrent would look if I had 9 SL-Infinity fans in there?

6 in push/pull mostly for aesthetics since performance dif won't be that big, and 3 on the bottom.

[kindred pawn]

how do i check

[kindred pawn]

that sounds like a better idea

[gentle pollen]

HwInfo is a good app for that but if your lazy, Task manager can also do it but it isn't as accurate.

Task Manager > More Details > Performance.

[kindred pawn]

my cpu is being used at ~30% while my gpu is being used at ~10%

[gentle pollen]

Also, how much ram is currently in your system, if it's 16gb it's just fine.

[gentle pollen]

This is while ingame?

[kindred pawn]

nvm, ~45% in game for cpu, ~25% for gpu

[gentle pollen]

How high are your settings?

[kindred pawn]

as low as i can go i think

[gentle pollen]

Like Visual Settings.

Try upping your settings and check the performance impact.

If it's similar to how it is currently or big drop in frames.

Also, how much ram is in your system? Usually more ram doesn't mean better but if your system only has like 8gb that can affect peformance.

[kindred pawn]

16gb 2x8

[gentle pollen]

what speed?

[kindred pawn]

3200mhz but im not sure if it's running at that

[gentle pollen]

Hmmm, speed wise the ram is fine and you got plenty.

[strong raft]

You'll go in bios & just make sure xmp is on. Oh, open task manager or cpuz. 3200 is plenty. Apex, it's between 2060S & 2070S just for an idea of performance.

[gentle pollen]

The GPU right?

[strong raft]

Imagine when igpu even matches a 1080, would be nuts.

[gentle pollen]

Honestly it looks like CPU is your problem, so I agree with Chillin on upgrading it to a R7 5800x3D or 5700x.

[weary galleon]

you don't need either of those for a 3060

oh he's looking for upgrades

[gentle pollen]

Yes.

His current setup isn't as fast as he'd like it to be.

[weary galleon]

Gonna have to upgrade both gpu and cpu then

[gentle pollen]

So we're trying to figure out what he'd need to upgrade to get better frames.

🤦‍♂️ I just realized. @kindred pawn what is your budget for a upgrade.

[weary galleon]

cold do only a gpu upgrade, though that will be somewhat bottlenecked assuming hes at 1080p

[gentle pollen]

And what is your current mobo.

[kindred pawn]

idk yet, if i bought a new cpu it'd be like $400 canadian at most

i dont wanna upgrade gpus yet

[gentle pollen]

Got it.

[weary galleon]

A cpu upgrade alone isn't gonna do much for you

[gentle pollen]

so $300 tops for a cpu upgrade.

[strong raft]

If gaming is most what you do, the cheap route is 5600(x) as the replacement. Could also think about listing the 5700g for sale asap (I mean 1st) so maybe that money can instantly go to next one.

[gentle pollen]

Oh sorry misread.

[kindred pawn]

is there an r7 5600x?

[weary galleon]

theres a 5600 and 5600x, pretty close performance

[strong raft]

Ignore the r5 r7 r9 bs. 5600(X) is 6 core & X is just 200ish mhz faster. 5700x/5800x are 8core.

[kindred pawn]

if the 5700x is $269 and the 5600x is $229 shouldn't i just get 5700x

[strong raft]

Oh definitely. 5600(x) is bigger in the usa when price is like $150 vs $200+ on the others, for example. Those 2 extra cores sure won't help. 5700X I hear is like a 5800x almost but runs quite a bit cooler.

[potent portal]

Cooler because less watts per core

[gentle pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hf6dPX

My build list for my next upgrade (prices are based on the cost from amazon.com.mx).

[cyan ravine]

Caught on dram is dead ram

I expected about as much

I can't help with this tho I'm at work sorry

[unkempt geyser]

I think I was supposed to post in peripherals

Big oof

[obsidian wigeon]

Best is like drop pc38x

Also lol don't worry, going off topic is usually okay

[unkempt geyser]

ohh alr alr

[obsidian wigeon]

Do keep in mind that it's open back

So it doesn't keep any noise in or out at all

[unkempt geyser]

oh damn

[obsidian wigeon]

It's fine if you use it in a room by yourself, but others can hear what you're listening to when they're near

They're like little speakers basically

For closed back I can think of steelseries nova pro wireless

[upper ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7y7wJM This is my friends build that i was talking about yesterday. Ive tried to help him with it but he wont listen to anything i say except for when i said to get rid of the threadripper. 😑 Like im just try to help him put his money to something better. Like he will never use all that ram so why not get 16gb or 32gb and save that money upgrade one of the others.

[cyan ravine]

Cooler aio gpu

If I were to change anything it would be those 3

The rest, while odd, aren't exactly terrible, very usable lol

[upper ore]

I completely agree! But I also think that he can get dropped down to atleast 32gb if he wants extra still but not an outrages amount that he'll never use. If you were to make a list what would it be? I made one for him but idk why he's not taking my advice.

[cyan ravine]

I mean he won't really make the money back on the ram, he could just keep it tbh

He could sell 2 sticks? But would probably only get $60 for it

[upper ore]

He hasn't bought anything yet lol

[cyan ravine]

I couldn't make a list without knowing how much he'd spend tbh

[upper ore]

Alright I'll ask him when I get off. But my guess is around that list price

[gilded spade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/CrazyCat1344/saved/#view=X6XzP6 Anyone have any Advice on parts? I'm not good with Motherboards and I already own the GPU

[mossy venture]

I would not but most of that

13700k is all around better and a bit cheaper

Liquid freezer ii 360 or ls720 both cheaper and better for aio

I'll make you a new list in a few min

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hJVXqm

@gilded spade

[gilded spade]

Oh dang

Sorry I hadn't noticed you messaged back

[mossy venture]

No you're good, I just pinged you to make sure you saw it

[gilded spade]

Thanks

[mossy venture]

If you really like the look of the case you chose, i would switch it to the h7 flow

It's the only good version of it

[gilded spade]

My budget is around 16-1800$ USD So that list is good for new mouse, keyboard, ETC...

[mossy venture]

Do you need a monitor too?

[gilded spade]

I don't really care about looks all that much

I just want good functionality

[mossy venture]

Oh also, if you're gaming imo I would switch it to a 13600kf and ddr5

[gilded spade]

and maybe for streaming

[mossy venture]

Pretty sure a 13600k on ddr5 performs better than a 13700k on ddr4

[gilded spade]

Alright

[mossy venture]

Wait

Didn't copy right

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLJXqm

[gilded spade]

Also I'm not good on power supplies

[mossy venture]

There we go

[gilded spade]

My GPU needs 750 but idk about anything else

[mossy venture]

The psu in there would be fine with a 3090/4090, it'll be fine with a 3080

[gilded spade]

Oh

I put the wrong GPU in there

oops

I have the 3080 TI

[mossy venture]

If you're curious, there's a tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

That's fine

Will still be fine on that psu

[gilded spade]

Ah okay

[gilded spade]

Also I have a Predator Monitor, its 240 HZ and is 1920x1080 but I don't quite know the name of it

Oh I found it

I'm not going to buy off eBay but that's just where I could find it https://www.ebay.com/itm/254371739962?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-222657-2056-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=254371739962&targetid=1267522138537&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=9026425&poi=&campaignid=16510741874&mkgroupid=133434371919&rlsatarget=pla-1267522138537&abcId=9300829&merchantid=138372440&gclid=CjwKCAiAy_CcBhBeEiwAcoMRHOo-SQrfw-scrOI8xyL4jM-64GCHukUeSvW1oCfEgsGzn8xpgzOMKxoCC8sQAvD_BwE

[mossy venture]

Do you play competitively or for fun?

[gilded spade]

Both but mainly competitively

I also plan on starting streaming once I get the upgrade

[mossy venture]

Ah, then that's fine. 1080p on a 3080 ti is kinda... disappointing, but if you have other stuff you need to buy before a monitor upgrade I'd prioritize that after

[gilded spade]

No I plan on upgrading the monitor

[mossy venture]

Ah ok

[gilded spade]

Monitors is just the thing im worst on

[mossy venture]

M27q-x if you want 240hz

M27q-p, m27q, x27q, or g27q for 144/165

[gilded spade]

Any monitors bigger than 1080p?

[mossy venture]

Those are all 1440p

[gilded spade]

Oh

The monitor looks great and ill take your word for it cause idk anything about it

[mossy venture]

Theyre all good, I can personally vouch for the x27q which is actually the worst of the ones I mentioned

Worst being subjective

[gilded spade]

Yeah

[upper ore]

The new G500A case is pretty amazing aswell

[barren flint]

Hey I’m trying to get a gaming pc for $3k for Christmas can someone please help me out?

[mossy venture]

Pre built or build yourself?

And is it just the tower in the budget?

[barren flint]

Any I just really want something worth the money

[mossy venture]

Kk, do you care about looks?

Need wifi?

[barren flint]

Naw Idc about looks

[barren flint]

Wdym Wi-Fi?

I got wifi

[mossy venture]

Are you going to use ethernet or do you need wireless for the pc

[barren flint]

Wireless

[mossy venture]

Kk

Give me a few

[barren flint]

All good take your time

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JgFhLs check this out

Could go cheaper if you wanted, 4090 is likely insanely overkill for what you're doing

[kindred pawn]

So since the 5600x is cheaper I should get it? How different is it from the 5700g? Would the performance be better cause I don't have an igpu?

[mossy venture]

I'd just change gpu to 6900xt/7900xtx/4080/3080 if you want it cheaper

5600x from 5700g is mainly a side grade imo

[barren flint]

Naw it’s all good

Ima see if I can find somewhere that can build it

[mossy venture]

It's not too difficult to diy

But if you can find a place, I personally wouldn't pay more than $150, they might charge more though because of the cost of the actual build

[barren flint]

Hm I’ll try making it myself then

It would be my first though

[barren flint]

You think you can help me out with a pre-built?

[mossy venture]

Yeah, give me a few minutes to look around though

[barren flint]

Alright

It can go up to 3500

If it needs to

[mossy venture]

God I hate cyberpowers website

So this build https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Daily-Deal-RyZen-7900XT

Switch case to the 4000d airflow, cpu to 7600x

Can either get whatever gpu you would like to, up to you

I would suggest 7900xtx personally, 4080 perf

But if you want the 4090, it fits the budget

And ima still be looking around, that's just one option

[barren flint]

Alright

[mossy venture]

Oh also mwe gold V2 850 for the psu

This with a 13600kf, same 4000d airflow case, same psu, and again gpu is dependant on you https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower-Z690-i9-Configurator

[strong raft]

I'd check on how much the 5700g might be worth 1st. In games, especially 1440p and above is when cpu isn't as huge a deal unless you had 4500g or such.

[tawny violet]

Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black for 34,900 HUF
Worth buying?

it's in box, with 3 months warranty

Used, but cleaned, in box with all accessories (from a second-hand hardware shop)

It's ~55,000 HUF brand new

[mossy venture]

How much us that in usd?

91 usd

Googled it

I'd check pricing on dark rock pro 4 and ak620

Oh also fc140 and peerless assassin 120

[stoic island]

3 months from retailer? Noctua does 6 year warranty

Probably not worth paying for a d15 still

[tawny violet]

I thought the D15 is like one of if not the best air coolers?

[tawny violet]

Dark Rock Pro 4 is 30k HUF used, no warranty of any kind from seller
AK620 only available new, 28k HUF+shipping
Other 2 unavailable entirely

[stoic island]

It's the gold standard, but it's just the standard, now that other coolers measure up to it while being cheaper, like ak620

[tawny violet]

Issue with the AK620 is that I'd pay more overall, because shipping

[stoic island]

rip

[tawny violet]

by like 2k

[stoic island]

What about like freezer 34 duo

[tawny violet]

24k+shipping

new from shop ofc

[stoic island]

How much is the shipping

[tawny violet]

About the same as the AK620
So way more than it should be, but whatever

[empty pollen]

still ak620 is a beast, totally worth it

i would gladly paid the extra

[stoic island]

estimate shipping for this?
https://www.alza.hu/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-white-d5561382.htm

[tawny violet]

Roughly 3k if I get it to a packet point

[stoic island]

so approx 68$ for freezer 34 duo or 92$ for d15, neither prices are good, but I'd go for freezer 34 duo

[stoic island]

review for numbers
https://youtu.be/bJaJeP7bylE

[tawny violet]

I mean

It's for a 7700k

It can't be that bad

I'd probably be able to get away with way cheaper stuff

It's more that I saw a D15 45% cheaper than new in store and I thought it'd be a good buy

[stoic island]

nah don't go by margins like that, they can just mark things up to infinity

[shut rampart]

My start up app aren’t loading and I can’t press on the task bar…

[tawny violet]

Well the D15 Chromax Black is 50-55k HUF new here

[shut rampart]

Nvm a simple restart on the 3rd try fix it

[tawny violet]

Tbf the prices are below usual rn
Normally it's closer to 60-65k HUF
Now it's only 50-55k brand new
Or 35k used

[stoic island]

d15 msrp should be 100$, worth maybe 20$ less than that, it does not mean you should buy it when Amazon does the usual "140$ but 30% off" thing

[tawny violet]

I mean the new price is without any discounts
Just straight up
And the used is about 45% less than the new one

[stoic island]

just means the new one is already more than 45% overpriced

[tawny violet]

That's just the default price here

[stoic island]

(and still overpriced)

D15 at 100$ nowadays in the US is already considered overpriced now that other options are on the table

[tawny violet]

The cheapest brand new I have ever seen is 48,900 HUF+shipping (~1500)

I think

Yeah, just under 50k HUF

But that was ~2 years ago

[stoic island]

consider this,
50,000 HUF for a D15 new
23,000 HUF for a Freezer 34 duo new
Where Freezer 34 duo performs very similarly to the D15

It makes d15 a horrible buy

overpriced as hell

[tawny violet]

Issue is Alza is notorious about horrid customer service and the occasional scam here

[stoic island]

Only one way to find out

[mossy venture]

Even the duo would be more than enough

Especially if you're just gaming, something like the 224xt would be fine

[tawny violet]

Yeah, I know
It just felt like a good opportunity to score a D15 that I can use later to cool a more powerful chip

[stoic island]

I have a d15, it's good, but it's not that good

Freezer 34 can do most things a d15 can

[tawny violet]

That's so weird to me lel

It's been so many years when the D15 was basically untouched by anything other than 240+ AIOs and custom watercooling

[kindred pawn]

So you think changing from a 3060 to something else would be better? Cause the cpu change would be a cheaper option

Cause the graphics cards are really expensive to upgrade

Ig I can't really upgrade till I got the money

I'll come back if I do, thanks yall

[cyan ravine]

It can

[vague oracle]

Can it support me emotionally?

[stoic island]

only temporarily

[vague oracle]

Financially?

[cyan ravine]

Definitely

[leaden mauve]

X79 can support you in every way

[pallid reef]

My Pc just died and trying to get a new pre built pc around 1.6k budget is there any good options that you guys can recommend me? Thank you

[fossil cedar]

country and use for the pc?

[pallid reef]

US and Video editing, Gaming and stuff like that

[vague oracle]

False.

[leaden mauve]

You have yet to be enlightened. I will fix that

[potent portal]

Can I use it to support my butt when my chair breaks

[leaden mauve]

yes

Of course

My pillow case is full of x79 motherboards

[cyan ravine]

[leaden mauve]

LIVE AND DIE BY THE X79

[fossil cedar]

if you dont mind open box https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali568-master/p/N82E16883360198R?Item=N82E16883360198R or https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali586-gladiator/p/N82E16883360221R?Item=N82E16883360221R are good options and spending more isnt worth
otherwise id get this
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali651/p/N82E16883360316?Item=N82E16883360316

[severe matrix]

anyone know some good PSUs around the ~$70 mark that can handle a ryzen 7 3700x + rx 6700xt? the setup will take around 430w based on PcPartPicker, but I might get a higher watt psu so i have more room to upgrade

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8RFf7/bitfenix-formula-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm650ulag-7r

[severe matrix]

https://www.newegg.com/thermaltake-smart-bm2-750w-ps-spd-0750mnfabu-1/p/N82E16817153423 is this Thermaltake Smart good? 75 bucks for a 750W 80+ Bronze

[fossil cedar]

its terrible

get the formula 650w its a really good psu

[severe matrix]

oh Bacca's one

damn it's a Tier A High end??

how much of a Watt overhead should computers have? or can this psu be under full load and still be safe

cause i've heard from others that the one I have can blow up or something if its like 50w close to the limit

[fossil cedar]

yes it is, the 650w will be a good choice to pair with a 6700xt

[fossil cedar]

only if they are like terrible

[severe matrix]

ahh ok

so this one should be fine

[fossil cedar]

yep

[mossy venture]

more than should be

[severe matrix]

im planning on buying a 1tb m.2 drive since the 500gb one i have barely has enough space anymore. What's the difference between M.2 drives such as Western Digital, Team Group, Silicon Power and others compared to like Samsung? they're like ~30 bucks cheaper, so i'd like to buy them

[mossy venture]

model matters much more than brand

WD has some amazing ssds such as the sn850x, and then they have the sn300

[strong raft]

Samsung is like evga, but rides on the name/hype even more. Team mp33/34 is good at $60ish as are a few others.

[severe matrix]

ohhh

https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp33-1tb/p/N82E16820331417?Description=m.2 drive&cm_re=m.2_drive-_-20-331-417-_-Product would this be good then?

oh hey a free 8gb flash drive comes with it too

[fossil cedar]

Yes it is

[severe matrix]

ok nice

[severe matrix]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6700-xt-rx6700xt-cld-12g/p/N82E16814930056?Item=N82E16814930056&Description=rx 6700 xt&cm_re=rx_6700 xt-_-14-930-056-_-Product&quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/msi-rx6700xtmech-2x12goc/p/N82E16814137640?Item=N82E16814137640&Description=rx 6700 xt&cm_re=rx_6700 xt-_-14-137-640-_-Product&quicklink=true

https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-radeon-rx-6700-xt-axrx-6700xt-12gbd6-3dh/p/N82E16814131783?Item=N82E16814131783&Description=rx 6700 xt&cm_re=rx_6700 xt-_-14-131-783-_-Product

Between these three RX 6700 XT brands, which do you guys think is the best to get? they're all 360 bucks

[empty pollen]

the 3 are similar, just choose the cheapest, and in case the 3 are on the same price, just choose the one that look prettiest to you

[severe matrix]

i see

[woven horizon]

#notthemech

[severe matrix]

wait wut

[vague oracle]

Either Asrock or powercolor

[woven horizon]

Dont get the mech

[vague oracle]

The MSI one is ass

[severe matrix]

cause of its design?

or performance

[vague oracle]

Cooling

[woven horizon]

Its hot

[severe matrix]

ahhh

[vague oracle]

It’s cooling is just bad

[severe matrix]

i guess the brands really do matter

maybe the ASrock cause it has a higher ratio of good reviews

compared to the powercolor's 4 reviews

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yQsF9r ok i think i got it now. upgraded the gpu and psu, and added a m.2 drive. what do u guys think?

[woven horizon]

Are you buying all this or do you own some of it already?

[severe matrix]

oh i already own most of it yea

just rocking a gtx 1050 currently

[empty pollen]

[weary galleon]

Models matter. MSI makes cards that are fine, just the mech in particular isn't good

[empty pollen]

hard to judge if you dont tell us what you already have

[severe matrix]

ahh yea i own everything except the M.2 MP33, RX 6700 XT, and the 650W PSU

[woven horizon]

MP33 is good

[empty pollen]

seems pretty ok 👍

[severe matrix]

im replacing a gtx 1050 with the 6700xt, and my evga 500w with a 650w

[empty pollen]

mp33 is bae

[severe matrix]

ok tysm

is the mp33 one of the best budget nvme drives?

[empty pollen]

however, if you find an mp34 at 5-10 usd distance, then get the mp34

[severe matrix]

cause theres like 5 other brands that have the same price and size

oh yep its out of stock

[empty pollen]

yeah mp33 is best budget nvme

[severe matrix]

idk when it did though so not sure how long it will take to get back

[empty pollen]

but sometimes the mp34 is at 5usd distance, and that make the mp34 better

[severe matrix]

wait hold up its on amazon

[stoic island]

It's more like mp33 is an easy suggestion, lots of drives like it, but there isn't a solid rule so it's annoying to list every drive

[severe matrix]

bruh it arirves on jan 25

arrives

[woven horizon]

The NV2 is best.

[stoic island]

Check a60

[empty pollen]

dammm

month and a half

[severe matrix]

so the mp33, nv2, and a60 m.2 drives?

are like the best ones

[weary galleon]

Best for budget yeah

[empty pollen]

best budget ones yes

[stoic island]

They're one of many

[severe matrix]

hmm but which one between the 3

[stoic island]

There's a lot like them

[empty pollen]

the cheapest for you, they perform pretty similar

[stoic island]

Mp33 and a60 are standard e13t and sm2263xt drives

[cyan ravine]

NV2 is pretty peak tbh

Price considered it's great

[stoic island]

Nv2 is weird, apparently already has like 4 different variants lol

[severe matrix]

oh its gen 4 rather than gen 3 for the others

[cyan ravine]

Oh god

[severe matrix]

whatever that means

[cyan ravine]

I nearly bought 3

Instead went with XTX

I dodged a death bullet

[stoic island]

Might be e21t, might be e19t, might be qlc? I don't know what's up, all I know is the note to the side of newmaxx's sheet

Optimally it performs great but I dunno what's up

[cyan ravine]

Well one of those three are immediately scary

[woven horizon]

One of these things is not like the other.

[stoic island]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/zer6dj/kingston_nv2/

[severe matrix]

uh so should i go for the NV2 then? looks like it has the highest read and write

and u could possibly get a better model...?

[stoic island]

Look at notes of nv2

And seq isn't everything

[stoic island]

The notes of nv2 means you might get something that performs worse than what the specs say

[severe matrix]

is that worse version still better than the mp33 and a60 drives?

[stoic island]

Likely not

It's a developing story

[severe matrix]

ah ok

its either that i gamble, or stay safe with the mp33

[stoic island]

Depends on price and everything else

Grab what's cheaper

[severe matrix]

ok ty

also, do you know an good in ear monitors i could buy? headphones are pretty uncomfortable for me as my ears get hot and the pressure kinda hurts

the bluetooth ones i have are pretty heavy, so studying with them and repeatedly looking up and down gets super annoying

[torn umbra]

hey good evening guys i was wondering if i could take maybe 5-10mins out someone's day that's good with ram sticks?

[stoic island]

What's your budget?

[severe matrix]

hmm i'd like to be on the cheaper side since im buying all these pc parts, maybe around 30 bucks?

[stoic island]

Uhhh

[severe matrix]

...

[stoic island]

Moondrop chu perhaps

[stoic island]

For what about ram?

[earnest olive]

you're more likely to get a response if you just ask the question btw

!ask

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[severe matrix]

compared to regular headphones, how much of a decrease in sound quality are IEMs?

[stoic island]

Depends on the iem

[severe matrix]

i guess like a high-end headphones compared to a high-end iem

[stoic island]

There's just too much to it tbh, you'll have to just try them

[stoic island]

Like are we talking 3000$ iem vs 3000$ headphones or are we including like he-1, this stuff gets crazy

[severe matrix]

uhhh

[stoic island]

Just have to try it yourself

You're not going to get an useful answer is my point

[earnest olive]

yao says IEMs are generally better than over-ear

[flint sapphire]

He-1

[stoic island]

Plz don't listen to yao

[severe matrix]

i heard that audiophile stuff gets reaaally expensive lol

[earnest olive]

I don't have enough data points to give you my opinion

[severe matrix]

dont wanna delve too much into it

[earnest olive]

all I can say is I just upgraded from $150 over-ear headphones to $520 IEMs and the IEMs are much better

[stoic island]

Yao is just... Acts like they're the authority on everything and can't really back it up

But anyways there's too much to it

[torn umbra]

i wanted to upgrade my ram but the ones i have are sold as a 4 pack and im missing 2 i was wonder if i can just pop 2 more in or should i buy another pack of 4

[earnest olive]

[flint sapphire]

IEMs are honestly great for comfort imo

[earnest olive]

he picked out some pretty neat IEMs for me at least

[flint sapphire]

But I do love my senni open backs

[severe matrix]

yea thats honestly why i think ill get them over headphones

pretty sure any headphones wont be as comfortable as iems

[stoic island]

If you can, buy the same model, if not, if it's an easy to run xmp, like 3200c16, there's a good chance you can grab another 2x8 and it'll run fine, or it'll take tweaking, especially if it's like 3600c16 kits or above

[cyan ravine]

Will never catch me with IEMs

[earnest olive]

I will say that my old over-ears were more comfortable than my new IEMs

[cyan ravine]

Too much ear pain from trying all sorts of in-ears

[earnest olive]

but the new IEMs aren't bad

[cyan ravine]

I...gave up

[earnest olive]

they're comfortable, I just can't forget that I'm wearing them

[severe matrix]

shoot i forgot, dont iems go super deep in your ear or something

[stoic island]

Personally I like over ears better but that's partly because my ear is wacky and I'd prob need custom earplugs to be comfy and also full seal or ans hurts my head for some reason

[earnest olive]

I would usually forget I was wearing the HD598SE

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[torn umbra]

they actually have 3200c16 writing on the side of them

[severe matrix]

aw man

thats gotta be unhealthy

[earnest olive]

my IEMs came with a bunch of different tips

I had to use the largest set

[stoic island]

Suggestions are probably fine, but he acts like there's more to it than just looking at some other person's numbers, and can't back up his claims of something more to it

He's like "oh crinacle doesn't take into account this"

And then used crinacle's review and crinacle's chart

I just don't like the guy

[earnest olive]

understandable

my knowledge of audio basically extends to "moondrop variations sound pretty good"

lol

[cyan ravine]

That's like me saying Jay is dumb then using his review charts

Haha

[stoic island]

It's like the difference between me and you in terms of ram, I can point you to good sources, but I haven't actually messed with ram much

[severe matrix]

i heard that most of the time u should change out the earbuds on iems, are these good?

https://www.amazon.com/Earphone-Premium-Replacement-Blocking-Headphones/dp/B071Z6J3XL/ref=pd_day0fbt_img_sccl_1/145-7704406-4312105?pd_rd_w=aGWqX&content-id=amzn1.sym.c2062204-a945-491b-941c-359f18d6fec5&pf_rd_p=c2062204-a945-491b-941c-359f18d6fec5&pf_rd_r=4TSAX8HY4Z453YA25EZZ&pd_rd_wg=L9E0d&pd_rd_r=5f8f83a4-51ed-4d69-a00e-57a6d3f1fa94&pd_rd_i=B071Z6J3XL&psc=1

[stoic island]

Enough ranting for now

[stoic island]

I'd wait until you try it to tell

This stuff is personal preference

[severe matrix]

man but thats 8 bucks down the drain if its bad

but i suppose thats true

[stoic island]

I mean try the stock ones on the iems first

[severe matrix]

depends on your ears

[stoic island]

If you need replacements, look for replacements after figuring out it doesn't fit or whatever

[severe matrix]

ah ok ty

oh the Moondrop CHU tips seem pretty good based on the reviews

[stoic island]

I'm using crinacle's tier list for general quality

[severe matrix]

also looks like iems arent that bad for hearing too

[stoic island]

Putting high volume on anything can hurt your hearing, just gotta lower that volume

[severe matrix]

ahh yea

wait hold up i forgot one major thing

are IEMs good for competitive games, such as for surround stuff and so?

compared to headphones

[upper ore]

Quick question why are some games crashing on my new pc?

If it helps they are all steam games

[stoic island]

Usually a worse imaging and sound stage but you'll have to try it and see

[stoic island]

Need more info, what specs, what specific games, what other symptoms

[severe matrix]

ok thx

[analog pulsar]

is there any good brand monitor stand company

[analog pulsar]

i mean i see some cheap stuff but i dont wanna buy something or it to breakl bc it cant hold up my monitor

[tawny violet]

I can't help but browse the used marketplaces

Motherboard: ASUS PRIME A320M-K
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G
Memory: Kingston FURY Beast RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz
GPU: -
SSD: Kingston NV2 500GB M.2 2280
PSU: CHIEFTEC Smart 600W
Case: Aerocool Bionic v1

Price: 169 999 Ft

My senses say not good buy, but am curious about everyone else

[mossy venture]

I'd say like 150 usd... maybe

[analog pulsar]

[little osprey]

gigabyte simp

[obsidian wigeon]

why no gigabyte case

[analog pulsar]

idk

its giveaway aorus is doing lol

but the parts are so mouth watering

[mossy venture]

I wonder if it comes with an authentic exploding psu

[analog pulsar]

@bitter mason whats your thoughts on thermaltake pc

im gunna give up

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-scott-present-laughter-slap-self-gif-16647684

[burnt stratus]

what pc building guide is good

like what would you guys recommend

[fossil cedar]

Check the pins

[burnt stratus]

ok cool

i planned on using the ltt guide but i wasnt sure

[fossil cedar]

It's pretty in depth

[burnt stratus]

yeah alright

[fossil cedar]

so whats your budget and have you bought anything @cold turtle ?

[cold turtle]

no I have not

this is the problem

I have not a very specific budget

[cold turtle]

I am temporarily in Germany and will go soon, meanwhile, I want to buy a GPU and/or CPU and take along as these cost a lot more in my country

[fossil cedar]

ahh okay you gonna buy motherboard and stuff too?

[cold turtle]

I also consider that I won't be fully building the system soon, only getting CPU, GPU which are main components

[cold turtle]

no, no only GPU or CPU, or maybe both if I have good deals

I don't know about these things, I am kind of confused considering the prices and reviews by users

[potent portal]

It's a good idea usually to buy everything at once for two main reasons. They might go on sale later, and if something is wrong with the parts you're still in the return window.

[cold turtle]

I must take the risk :(

it is one in my lifetime that I come abroad and buy a pc part

it will not happen again

[potent portal]

There's new CPUs that are expected to be a much better value in the next 2 months

[cold turtle]

then I should only buy the GPU right?

it is the most expensive

[potent portal]

So if you really have to buy now know what you're getting into at least

[cold turtle]

I am open for your advice

[potent portal]

The GPU should be ok to get now. If you can find one a 7900 XTX (not XT) is good

[cold turtle]

how much is the price?

[cold turtle]

it is unfortunately well beyond my budget

what else can I buy?

Pato is also gone

[potent portal]

For a lower budget you can look at the 6700 XT or 6750 XT

Any lower than that and I'd be looking at used

[cold turtle]

what about RTX?

you didn't mention a single RTX card xd

[potent portal]

They're just bad value right now

[empty pollen]

all nvidia cards are just bad value

[potent portal]

If you can find a 3070 for cheaper than the 6750 go for it

[empty pollen]

only used most likely

[potent portal]

Yep. Used are decent value because miners dumped a bunch of them.

[cold turtle]

yes, I see, RTX are much higher in price than RX

so I would go for RX then

and disregard Ray Tracing being bad

for editing, they might also be better

[cold turtle]

https://www.idealo.de/productpage/200991536?siteId=1&src=DESKTOP&leadOutUrl=%2Fpreisvergleich%2FRelocate%2F3487811264757891091.html%3Fcamp%3Doesg%26categoryId%3D16073%26pos%3D1%26price%3D646.46%26productid%3D200991536%26ref%3Doesg%26sid%3D1140%26type%3Doffer&offerKey=7a5e7f59e175a8446a5fa83b39d3aa50&offerListId=200991536-3A18B49EC1774CC145401D92DB10796A&dk_exit_id=d7d39eab-7843-47e8-b00f-01f47acfcb9c&osId=3487811264757891091&cancelUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.idealo.de%2Fpreisvergleich%2FOffersOfProduct%2F200991536_-tuf-rx6800-o16g-gaming-16gb-gddr6-asus.html&lcb=cOcoBFY3DrqRikWlh41gJQ&dk_exit_timestamp=1671311878495&dk_entered_id=b605f272-9aa8-486c-b34f-806a1d917218&offer_selected_id=7bdfc6a6-0cf0-46be-b402-410ebe244041

this one is good, right?

sorry for long long link

[fossil cedar]

id get this then https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GKQ89r

honestly the bump over 6750xt isnt worth like 200€

[cold turtle]

you mean 6800 is not worth the extra 200 right?

[fossil cedar]

yes

[cold turtle]

I also think so

thank you so much

I now prefer RX well over RTX xd

[earnest olive]

if only you could wait for the i5-13400

[cold turtle]

:DDD I wish that I could, I will leave here in less than a month

[earnest olive]

sad

[cold turtle]

at least I can take a GPU with me

with the hope that it won't be defective

because I will have the chance to test that in a few years lol

[fossil cedar]

honestly intels eu pricing hasnt been great on like 13600k and stuff anyway soo

but yeah would probably be like 250 max

[earnest olive]

EU pricing going boom in general I hear

[empty pollen]

in a few.... years???? dont buy anything then, in a few years we should have newer gens and this ones will be either obsolete or heavily discounted

[cold turtle]

yeah

a few years

[empty pollen]

then any advice rn is useless for you pal

[cold turtle]

I don't think I will get cheaper prices in my home country anytime in future

[empty pollen]

plain as that

[cold turtle]

I also thought that actually

maybe I can keep the money and buy later

[fossil cedar]

Eh it's just msrps deciding to go up in eu compared to us, e.g. iPhone 14 price stayed same as 13 in NA but not in the rest of the world it's mega sad idk why so spensiv

[empty pollen]

thing is, spend if you are going to use it... if you are going to spend just to shelf the gpu for a few years, then is a waste of money

[fossil cedar]

You should

[cold turtle]

okay

thank you for all advices

[fossil cedar]

And it could be not working and you'd never know then you'd have a 500€ brick on your shelf

[cold turtle]

I should not buy any part then

[fossil cedar]

Not if you're not gonna buy everything

[cold turtle]

all right

[fossil cedar]

Either buy all the parts now or just lower end parts in a few years will outperform mid range parts now anyway for less

Also a lot of eastern eu countries can buy from Amazon.de so consider that

[cold turtle]

I am not an EU citizen

anyway, what you said is totally right

I will not buy anything at the moment

[empty pollen]

tech prices are so wild that any advice right now can be useless the next week

[cold turtle]

yeah :(

[fossil cedar]

I believe it delivers to some non eu countries too, you should see if it does

[empty pollen]

let alone a few years

[cold turtle]

I wanted to get into video editing as soon as I go back to my home country to be honest

now, I think I will just stick to my gtx 1060 for that

[empty pollen]

then why you said "in a few years"?

[fossil cedar]

Oh if you have a pc then by all means get a gpu and slap the new one in

[cold turtle]

because I already have a pc that is not good, I was planning to make an upgrade in a few years if I make money

with my current potato pc

[empty pollen]

your statement back there gave the impression that you will buy a card to shelf it and test it in a few years

[fossil cedar]

sshhhhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/mouxy-cotorep-aveugle-debile-esquiver-gif-20546128

[empty pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-me-come-at-bro-ese-rat-gif-16181220

[cold turtle]

I can test it with my current pc, but I am afraid that it can do something to the GPU

[empty pollen]

like?

not that your pc can damage the gpu by any means

[cold turtle]

shortage or something similar

I do not know much about this

[cold turtle]

can I just take off the GTX 1060 and put the RX?

[empty pollen]

your pc cant damage your gpu, YOU can damage the gpu, and the pc as well

[cold turtle]

will that work?

[fossil cedar]

yes

[cold turtle]

my current CPU is i5 7600K I believe

not so sure

[empty pollen]

i had a 3060ti slotted on a 4770k back in the day

[cold turtle]

with 16 Gb of ram

[empty pollen]

no problems

[cold turtle]

oh damn

I really thought there would be compatibility issues

[empty pollen]

well, bottleneckd, but that was expected

[cold turtle]

what is that?

[empty pollen]

aside from that, ran fine

[cold turtle]

will mine also bottlneck?

if I use RX?

[empty pollen]

most likely, but not as bad as people would think

[cold turtle]

I need to search what bottlenecking is

[empty pollen]

bottleneck means that either your cpu or your gpu cant be as fast as the other ones, and you will lose performance as result

in my case, my 4770 was too slow to get the full performance of my 3060ti

[fossil cedar]

nothing harmful tho

[empty pollen]

but worked nonetheless

[cold turtle]

oh all right

all I want, is it not to give any damage to my GPU whatsoever lol

it will probably be the most valuable item I got

[empty pollen]

again, your pc cant damage your gpu

you are the only one capable to damage either one of those

bad handling or something like that, but compatibility issues? nah

[cold turtle]

awesome

I did not know about it

thank you so much

[empty pollen]

just some bottlenecking, but that is expected

[fossil cedar]

just make sure you have a decent psu

[cold turtle]

now I am hyped because I will have the chance to try the GPU right away

[still roost]

Mr.Mehi#1566 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[empty pollen]

yeah sometimes i miss my 3060ti

[fossil cedar]

what psu you have now?

[cold turtle]

Thermaltake, but not sure which one exactly

[cold turtle]

what do you have now

ever since I started using gtx 1060, I have been having non stop FPS drops and performance issues

non stop, literally

I am fed up of it

[fossil cedar]

not confidence inspiring id probably get a new psu thermaltake have like 1 maybe 2 good psus and the rest are terrible. recon you could psu back with you?

[cold turtle]

been years, but never found a solution

[fossil cedar]

you have xmp enabled?

[empty pollen]

a 750ti :D, gave my 3060ti to my sis cause she make cad work and twitch game streaming... me? i dont play that much lately, so the 750ti is enough for my daily use

[cold turtle]

I don't know what that is really

[cold turtle]

really good move :))

[cold turtle]

I will get a new psu, as far as I know, they don't cost much

[fossil cedar]

extreme memory profile, it helps dramatically with fps, basically your ram doesnt run at 3200mhz or whatever its rated for out of the box

[cold turtle]

I will adjust it for sure as soon as I get home

but I am pretty sure it is not the reason

so the conclusion is

I will just buy an RX instead of RTX and put into my pc and it will work

[fossil cedar]

id get this one https://www.caseking.de/bitfenix-formula-80-plus-gold-netzteil-650-watt-nebf-011.html?awc=28817_1671315539_1fef40922fe6f98746e887d08a8bf79c&utm_medium=utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=PCPartPicker _127079_Communities+%26+UGC

[cold turtle]

oh I actually expected less pricy :D

wouldn't it be too heavy to carry all the way to home? I think I will only stick to the GPU for now

[empty pollen]

yes, you will have to ddu tho

to clean the nvidia drivers

and make room for the amd drivers

[cold turtle]

maybe I can buy psu at home

[cold turtle]

ddu?

[empty pollen]

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[cold turtle]

nice, sure

I am hyped lol

still could not decide on the GPU though

[cold turtle]

what do you usually mind when you choose a psu?

[empty pollen]

1st the gpu and cpu pairing, so you can estimate the wattage requirement

then you look at the psu cultist tier list, they have a lot of psu models rated on quality tiers, from A to F

[fossil cedar]

Depends what luggage weight restrictions you have, it is like 2kg

[empty pollen]

but most of the time once you figure the wattage, the bois here cna help you with a good psu from the tier list anyway

[cold turtle]

oh right, I will ask it here as soon as I buy a psu

[empty pollen]

no no, as soon as you are about to buy

no point if you already bought the psu

[cold turtle]

yeah, this is what I do not know at the moment, if I have more free space, I will surely grab a psu as well