building-and-recc-chat

[knotty grotto]

(BTW I really appreciate the help and patience)

[fossil cedar]

The g360a? P500a?

[knotty grotto]

P500a

[fossil cedar]

Honestly I'd get the meshify 2 non xl
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cYD7YJ/fractal-design-meshify-2-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-c-mes2a-06

The rgb version is cheaper but you should be able to just not plug in the rgb and have none

[knotty grotto]

Non-XL will be big enough? Got a warning saying motherboard might interfere with things

Well nvm. Seems was only warning me for a different case

[fossil cedar]

Oh i see what you mean

It's saying you might not be able to use the front hdd trays which kinda ruins the point of you getting that case

[fossil cedar]

I'd probably grab this instead then either that or the meshify 2 xl but that seems a bit pricey atm imo
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2vJgXL/lian-li-lancool-iii-atx-mid-tower-case-lancool-3-x

[knotty grotto]

Using PC Part Picker it doesn't say there's any compatibility issues with the non-xl meshify

Should I rely on that?

Ok, I think I've finally got it narrowed down. How does this look for a photo editing PC with some gaming (no steaming) and will be considered good for at least 5 years

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LgxgyK

and there a reason I should be looking at the 12th gen i7 vs the 13th gen i5?

[mossy venture]

13600k has better single core and multi core performance

it's just all around better

[earnest olive]

the only reason to get the 12700K is if you get that micro center deal for 12700K + free z690

[jagged hill]

the one i posted in build pics, its an aio build

it runs gc/wii on a nuc

[little osprey]

I love being able to use my laptop on 12% for another hour

[knotty grotto]

Would you trust a component if it says "Shipped from China"?

[earnest olive]

why not? racist much?

🤨

[empty pollen]

intel chips are made in vietnam, yet we use them 😛

and most gpus are made in china anyway xD

[knotty grotto]

I know most are made in china and abroad. Just wondering if things are more of a scam if shipped from china or likely to have damage vs shipped from US or other places

[empty pollen]

you are more likely to be scammed with prodcuts on the US than you think

[knotty grotto]

Good to know

[empty pollen]

things is, thats why buyer protection exist, to prevent scam, no matter the place in the world

i almost handle all my online shopping thru paypal as an example, if somehow someone scam me, paypal will side with me... ebay have a buyer protection program too as another example

[knotty grotto]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i5-13600kf-core-i5-13th-gen/p/N82E16819118417?quicklink=true

This seem legit? I know its off newegg so I'm assuming theres some kind of verification process

[empty pollen]

ehhh 4 ratings? 23 reviews? that will fall into common sense most of the time

i wouldnt trust a third party seller with so low numbers

can be true, can be a scam.... yeah your money is protected anyway but you will have to deal with a long a tedious process to get your money back... better to buy from newegg directly or do a lil research on third party sellers before pulling the trigger

how many sells?, how much of them were positive?, their ratings... etc etc

[analog pulsar]

What I don't trust is "will ship in 3 months"

[knotty grotto]

Yeah that seems excessive

[analog pulsar]

I like this better

RGB brrrrrr

I like this better

Is my pc sending

[knotty grotto]

yes

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine look at #build-pics

[woven horizon]

Well, I need that desk.

[analog pulsar]

@earnest olive i didnt know laptops come with ballons

[empty pollen]

razer laptops come with balloons

thats common knowledge

dunno about other brands

[cyan ravine]

It's common in anything with a Li-Ion battery that you leave on the charger too much

Phones, cameras, laptops, the works

[leaden mauve]

Spicy pillow

[upper ore]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09WR6GXTL?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 These things really suck to work with! I've been trying to get the graphics card into the riser mount while its all put together for like an hour and its so hard to line it up correctly. I dont even know what to do now besides move on to the next part of my build

[cyan ravine]

Unscrew the riser cable from the mount

Mount the card to the holder

Plugged into the riser

Then if you can

Screw in the riser

< I've used these ones before

[upper ore]

I think i tried that last before giving up for tonight. Do you know if there are youtube videos of people doing it? The pictures on the instructions arent that helpful.

[elder bloom]

Hello, people. I need remedial help buying a relatively simple PC. I was sent here by the web site.

I am reasonably savvy and nice and not excessively dumb. I think.

[mossy venture]

what's your budget, case case and country?

[elder bloom]

500-800 ish, but I can be reasoned with, PC, and U.S.

not sure what case case is

[mossy venture]

sorry, my brain isnt working

use case* lmao

[elder bloom]

🙂

[mossy venture]

and did you want to buy a pre built, or build yourself

[empty pollen]

lawl

[elder bloom]

Daughter is 16, does high school kid stuff, minecraft, Genshen, Zoom calls, animation class,

i THINK I want to buy something I can plug in, but add to

Does that make sense?

[mossy venture]

This would be your best bet atm https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-003P-000F9?Item=9SIA08CJPK5655

it is refurb though

[elder bloom]

And she could add components and what not, to improve it, if she wanted?

Refurb is ok.

All new to me :_

[mossy venture]

@empty pollen is that seller good?

it's got a ton of reviews, 87% positive

87 seems a bit low imo

[cyan ravine]

I'm not sure, I'm taking it from my own experience tbh

[elder bloom]

how about something less expensivo? Is that realistic?

[mossy venture]

for pre builts that's a bit tougher

[cyan ravine]

I would try installing it to the bracket on it's own first maybe? If it's still giving trouble

My one has had a couple different cards without issue as well as serveral risers

[frigid night]

@analog pulsar I want that fridge. Also, The printer is like way to close. I'd feel so clausterphobic.

[analog pulsar]

[elder bloom]

@mossy venture is it significantly cheaper to build? Possible to do for a beginner? I can buy a laptop pretty confidently, but I have never built a PC.

[frigid night]

I knew nothing about building a PC when I first joined. These guys pointed in me in the right direction for the parts I needed and a couple youtube videos later.. I have spent hecka money into my setup and I am super happy and it was all easy.

[empty pollen]

seems pretty solid, 87% of 4909 reviews and 95k sales @mossy venture @elder bloom

[frigid night]

Easy for me anyways.. my wallet do be yelling at me through tears.

[elder bloom]

Maybe I should just get her some funds and let her build it herself.

[empty pollen]

still i will buy directly from newegg directly if possible

[mossy venture]

one sec

does she care about looks?

[elder bloom]

Nah, it's going to go under her desk probably.

Small space.

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yD4N4s

[upper ore]

Whats the cable in my case called Power_SW connect to on my motherboard?

I think im blind i cant find it lol

[mossy venture]

oh i had that issue

it's around the bottom right, ill take a picture

[elder bloom]

@mossy venture Neat! Thank you!

[empty pollen]

its the cable that enable your power switch to power on your pc

[analog pulsar]

@little osprey you have to chat here about it messages won't send in #build-pics and will be deleted

[upper ore]

Wait i think i found it but thank you bacca

[earnest olive]

those aren't balloons smh

the scientific term is spicy pillow

get it right kenzie

[analog pulsar]

[earnest olive]

I've seen some pillows with battery design

I want one

[empty pollen]

or batteries with a spicy pillow design?

[earnest olive]

idk microwave it and find out

[upper ore]

WIRING RGB SUCKS SO MUCH!

Sorry caps lol

But it still sucks

[empty pollen]

deal with it without caps

[earnest olive]

have you seen how much rgb is in my build

imagine all the cables

[upper ore]

Yes i have lol

[earnest olive]

delicious spaghetti

[analog pulsar]

I just shove back panel on

[upper ore]

What the heck does my case only have one 1 fan cable for all 3 fans on the front 😅

[empty pollen]

splitter

[cyan ravine]

• laughs in blackout pc's *

[empty pollen]

or hub controller

or probably the 3 fans are daisy chained

[frigid night]

scrub

[empty pollen]

dark sorcery i say

[cyan ravine]

Yea I scrubbed my life of RGB and I love it

[upper ore]

This?

[empty pollen]

yeah, dark sorcery as i suspected

[upper ore]

These new cases are freaking wild man! Like my last one was a cheaper one. I had to find a port for like all of them on the motherboard or daisy chain them.

[calm oyster]

Bro this iPhone 14 pro max has insane battery wtf

Been uncharged and using it for 15 hours and it’s only at 51%

[woven horizon]

13promax is the same way. I charge every 2 days when not working and when at work It stays on the charger.

[leaden mauve]

yes

[mossy venture]

When an apple user finally has a phone with battery longer than three hours 7 years late

[little osprey]

😂

[weary galleon]

Iphones have always had fine battery life...?

[little osprey]

My 12 lasts under 6 hours

usually 4-6 hour battery life of normal usage (i don’t play games or watch many videos)

[weary galleon]

All depends on age/wear and useage case

Also I believe part of the reason they are seeing such battery life is because the Max has a larger battery but same processor

(as the Pro)

[little osprey]

Mmhm

[tawny fiber]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GkQR9r

i was thinking of recommending this to someone with a budget of 1600$

[obsidian wigeon]

heck nah

13600k better choice tbh

[tawny fiber]

dead end platform

[obsidian wigeon]

not like it's gonna get slow after a few years suddenly

[tawny fiber]

still if a 5800x3d type situation happens again it will be a big miss out

[woven horizon]

Well my cpu socket cover says the next one is LGA 1800

[obsidian wigeon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4TL7Fg

Would just do this

NV2 is quite a sleeper drive, very similar price but beats out mp33

[empty pollen]

Unless you are in the market every year for a new cpu then the "future proof" is pointless

And in 5 years when you are finally there to upgrade your pc, i will prefer to upgrade the whole rig instead of just a last gen cpu on a 5 years old mobo which cant exploit the new cpu anyway to its fullest... so at the end of the day you will have to buy both cpu and mobo anyway.... my 2 cents 😛

[cyan ravine]

I just think the idea of spending 2x the price on ram, making up the difference on a chip with like, 8 more cores (be it e cores it's still relevant) and so much more multicore performance just not a great idea tbh

If we're talking future-proof you can less cut out the idea of needing a new chip sooner cos the cpu you first bought is just so much better

Not to mention basic ddr5 is a bit copium, even if you have a good roll in the dice chance it's hynix cos kingston (ETMS partcodes exist - Samsung)

Let alone that it's gonna be x8 not x16

[empty pollen]

team blue baby

now, things could drastically change when the 7000x3d series are released

[obsidian wigeon]

apparently 7700 non x is launching in 10th jan

329

[empty pollen]

a lot of things will launch after ces

[obsidian wigeon]

229 for 7600

meh not interested still

mobo price is scary

[empty pollen]

all those non x variants will suffer the same as the x variants

whole platform cost

[obsidian wigeon]

13500 will shine

or 13400

since 13500 will probably be badly priced

[empty pollen]

or not in stock, much like the fabled 12500

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

it's just

exists on paper

reality is different

[empty pollen]

if the stories are to be believed, the 13400 will be as good as a 12700

[obsidian wigeon]

perhaps

it's gonna be 12600k lol

just cheaper

[empty pollen]

yeah, could be the next budget best alternative

[obsidian wigeon]

possibly 12600k refresh and down in sku lineup

and ofc no oc

unless said board has separate clock gen

[empty pollen]

yeah but at that price point you will not oc anyway 😛

[obsidian wigeon]

you can still oc if you have a good mobo

bclk ocing with a board with separate clock gen

[empty pollen]

with the ol fashioned external clock

yeah that

january will be an exciting month, thats fo sure

[obsidian wigeon]

and perhaps kinda dead for amd as usual lmao

[empty pollen]

not happening on january

probably march at the earliest

[obsidian wigeon]

i doubt 3d is coming jan

[empty pollen]

non x cpus should come first

[potent portal]

Everything I heard up until recently was mid february but I've heard recently about it being rushed out for a probably paper launch in jan

[empty pollen]

a paper launch could happen

[tawny fiber]

Bog standard ddr5 with zen 4 3d chips should still beat current zen4 cpus with fancy rams

[obsidian wigeon]

i fear 3d skus will cost an extra $50

it's how amd does things

[potent portal]

Indeed even the basic 4800 or 5200 kits can beat ddr4 at this point

[empty pollen]

i bet an extra 100 on that

[tawny fiber]

If they pull a 5800x3d it's still great

[obsidian wigeon]

the price is gonna be steep for the cpus

[tawny fiber]

Monumental cpu that one

[obsidian wigeon]

$50-100 extra im pretty sure

[potent portal]

easily

[obsidian wigeon]

i just hope perf jump is big enough to be worth it

that's all i want to see

[empty pollen]

should be, those are supposed to be 2nd generation 3d cache

[tawny fiber]

Intel is evil for making me have to switch motherboards soo much

[obsidian wigeon]

if it doesn't imma be disappointed

[empty pollen]

no, you are the one switching boards so much

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not evil lol

[empty pollen]

you dont need them, you want them

is a common misconception

[obsidian wigeon]

also look at amd

they tried to get 300 series boards on am4 platform to lose support on zen 3

they're no better than intel

[potent portal]

A few of the board changes for Intel were completely unnecessary, just a couple pins difference. You could even mod some boards to support the newer chips with a pin mod.

[empty pollen]

yup

[obsidian wigeon]

amd tried that but the backlash was real

then they reversed their course and gave 300 series bios updates

[potent portal]

However it appears that Intel actually does need to change sockets this time around if they're to be believed. The large jumps in performance being a decent indicator.

[obsidian wigeon]

they promised that all am4 board will work with any am4 cpus

but then they tried to cheese it

[tawny fiber]

The fact that these two cpus can go in the same board is crazy enough for me

[obsidian wigeon]

so then it's not like amd is any better

[potent portal]

What was funny was when the manufacturers went rogue and updated agesa to support new chips anyway

[obsidian wigeon]

difference is they just kept one socket for longer

[empty pollen]

yeah but dont expect the same treatment this time, you are a fool if you think that will happen again... no offense ofc

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[empty pollen]

that time amd was the smaller fish

this time is different

[obsidian wigeon]

amd always tries to bend us over lol

[potent portal]

They've already committed to 4+ year life cycle for AM5

[tawny fiber]

Same as intel

[empty pollen]

yup

[obsidian wigeon]

any big companies ever

[empty pollen]

so intel is no better than amd

[obsidian wigeon]

they're not your friend after all

business is business

[potent portal]

Duopoly is only marginally better than a monopoly

[empty pollen]

expecting to build based on "longer am5 support" is a straigth out lie at this point

[tawny fiber]

Nvidia needs to start making cpus then

[obsidian wigeon]

just buy what's best for the time being and your budget

that's the only best way to it

[potent portal]

We already know the death knell is ringing for lga1700 though

[empty pollen]

better buy for now, future proofing is a lie that we tell to the children so then they can go to bed

[obsidian wigeon]

sticking to promises from these big companies is a foolish thing to stick to

[empty pollen]

yeah but at least you will have a good cpu for at least 5 years

[obsidian wigeon]

they will try to do whatever they can to bend you over

[empty pollen]

enough to jump into the next platform

[tawny fiber]

Acting like 7600x is not a good cpu?

[obsidian wigeon]

we aren't tho

[empty pollen]

is a good cpu, but the 13600k is better

[obsidian wigeon]

problem is 13600k exists

[potent portal]

Yeah that's similar to what Linux pointed out in 7900XTX review, don't buy promises

[empty pollen]

you are sacrificing performance in the hopes of am5 support

time is invaluable

[tawny fiber]

They are neck and neck in games

[obsidian wigeon]

sure it's dead end platform but buying into am5 early isn't much more different than buying promises

[empty pollen]

you can get the best rn, instead of sacrificing in hopes for something better tomorrow

[tawny fiber]

Some win on 13600k some win on 7600x

[obsidian wigeon]

it's either wait or do it situation

[empty pollen]

yup

do it now is 13600k, no more questions your honor.

do it later is 7800x3d

[obsidian wigeon]

buying am5 early would still force you to spend money for another cpu

[potent portal]

They already delayed AM5 almost a year to fix issues and supply chain so at least it's less buggy than most first gen platforms

[empty pollen]

but 7600x now, is a mistake

thats my opinion ofc

[obsidian wigeon]

that's good to hear at least

and ye it's my opinion

i would rather gets something good now even if it's the end of the line for certain platform

[tawny fiber]

I got fked by intel not again tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

and worry about upgrades later in like 5 years

[tawny fiber]

Could have a 3600 and get 5800x3d

[empty pollen]

you will get fkd with amd as well

they both can and will fk you if given the chance

[obsidian wigeon]

it's not like parts get slow as soon as next gen comes around

[empty pollen]

again, no offense, but you are a fool if you think that could happen again now that amd is a big player on the game

[obsidian wigeon]

of course unless you're apple

[tawny fiber]

The best I can get is 10900k and that Is not a big enough jump yk

[empty pollen]

then wait for 7800x3d

[obsidian wigeon]

apple is honestly just something else

[empty pollen]

7600x is a waste

[obsidian wigeon]

compared to intel and amd

new iphone? here have this update that slows your old one down

cuz battery degrades

[potent portal]

If the jump from 7700X to 7800X3D is as big as it was from 5800X to 5800X3D then we're in for some fun times. Supposedly it could be bigger since they've refined the vcache.

[obsidian wigeon]

perhaps

i just wouldn't do it rn

rather wait than spend another like 400 for cpu

[potent portal]

Yeah definitely hold your money if you can right now

[empty pollen]

still the x3d platform is not cheap at all

so, better to wait

[potent portal]

All of the AMD, Intel, and Nvidia current offerings SUCK for what they are and it's a garbage choice to have to pick the best of the worst

[obsidian wigeon]

am5 at its early stage isn't very wise to hop on

[empty pollen]

sadly these are today's standards

[obsidian wigeon]

3d zen 4 is where it's worth it imo

expensive but if perf is good then it's a fair tradeoff

which im not worried about tbh

it should be

[empty pollen]

not a "fair" tradeoff but an unavoidable one

[obsidian wigeon]

3d cache is exactly what zen 4 needs

[tawny fiber]

That charts of that cpu is very satisfying has a big jump over 5950x let alone 5800x

[empty pollen]

its either that or old gen tech

[obsidian wigeon]

amd knows that

and wants to capitalize off it

[potent portal]

Price/perf took a sharp dive for many reasons over these last 2 years

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[tawny fiber]

8700k didn't use to be crazy value

[obsidian wigeon]

right now is weird time to be getting anything

so hold off if you can

[empty pollen]

[tawny fiber]

Tell that to people with gt 1030s

[empty pollen]

already bough a z690+13600kf

[obsidian wigeon]

i would still wait a few more months if it means getting something that's actually worth the money

[tawny fiber]

Also games are getting too demanding imo

[obsidian wigeon]

rather than paying, then only to pay more just to have that good thing

that's just wasting money

[empty pollen]

i was already too tired of waiting anyway

my 4770 was a good boi, but was its time for retirement

[tawny fiber]

What gpu?

[obsidian wigeon]

pay once, be happy for a big while

[empty pollen]

look at my name 😄

[tawny fiber]

750ti with 13600k?

[empty pollen]

for now

[obsidian wigeon]

but ofc if it's too long of a wait I would just suck it up and get on with it

[tawny fiber]

💀

[empty pollen]

im goin to buy the xtx tomorrow

[tawny fiber]

Nice

[empty pollen]

if, an aib is below 1.1k

[woven horizon]

It’s either buy what you want now or hurry up and wait cycle.

[empty pollen]

anything higher and ill jump 4080

[potent portal]

The only real things I have against 13600k and Z690 are you need to update bios and we STILL have boards without flashback, plus DDR4 on 13600k does hurt performance about 4-5% on average

[obsidian wigeon]

it's almost always wait or get it with tech tbh

[empty pollen]

yup

5% i can live with that

z690 a pro with some 3600c18

doin fine so far

[woven horizon]

Buy the parts. If you wait you die.

[tawny fiber]

I will keep my 10400 for a few years more but by next year I will have a 40 series or 7000 series

[empty pollen]

i jumped from 4th to 13th

i will jump directly to 20th next time 😄

[obsidian wigeon]

i really want to get a new laptop

only thing keeping me from it is obviously money lmao

[tawny fiber]

Games are soo gpu bound up the wazoo like linus says

[potent portal]

Oh and crap ddr5 support

[obsidian wigeon]

asrock has cheap z690 rn

Pro RS is 140

idk if it's decent but it looks to be the case

[empty pollen]

i bought my z690-a at 155 on black friday

[obsidian wigeon]

and it has flashback

[empty pollen]

solid board so far

[obsidian wigeon]

MSI Pro-P Z690 has no flashback it seems

[empty pollen]

no, its horrible

[obsidian wigeon]

Only Pro-A does

[empty pollen]

yeah the asrock rs is pretty decent

only compromise is the lack of usb-c in the io

[obsidian wigeon]

Not too bad

[tawny fiber]

Need more boards under 100$

[obsidian wigeon]

I wonder why it still even has ps/2 port tho

[empty pollen]

you dont want those boards

[potent portal]

We won't see those again for a while

[obsidian wigeon]

Budget asrock/asus thing I guess

[tawny fiber]

I do want those

My b560 ex was 100$

[empty pollen]

h610 exists... but you dont want those

[obsidian wigeon]

h610 is easily 80

but it's only best for very budget build

[empty pollen]

12400 tops

those have like... 4 vrm phases at most

[obsidian wigeon]

and xmp that follows the cpu's official specs

kinda sadge

so basically you're limited to 3200

which isn't bad honestly

but it's a compromise regardless

[empty pollen]

yup, a 12400+3200c16 on a h610 isnt that bad when you think about it

[potent portal]

For a 12100 3200 is perfectly fine

Even that

[obsidian wigeon]

12100/12400 needs gear 2 to run 3600 anyway

and that's not really optimal

[tawny fiber]

Then you put a 3090ti up in that bih only to see to see gpu being the limit

[empty pollen]

thats why i love k cpus

[potent portal]

Which I find ridiculous since 11th gen could do it at g1

[obsidian wigeon]

same

[empty pollen]

well... if you have the money for a 3090ti you obviously dont have a rig like that

[obsidian wigeon]

i was confused

[empty pollen]

SA agents do wonders this gen

[tawny fiber]

You have no idea what I will do to min max a good gpu in

[empty pollen]

im just your average joe... plug and play

[potent portal]

Sure but try to decode which voltage affects what, there's like 20 and some do nothing

[empty pollen]

heck with min maxing

thats why i went overboard this gen

13600k+xtx or 4080

[obsidian wigeon]

plug and pray

[tawny fiber]

Are you stuck in fx era

Where amd used to buggy asf

[obsidian wigeon]

im just fooling around

[potent portal]

I still have my "8 core" fx 8300, no idea if the board still works since I had to flex it hard thanks to stripped standoffs

[obsidian wigeon]

ouch

[empty pollen]

i still have my e5200 cpu on my drawer

[tawny fiber]

I can see 13400 and 4090 being the new meta

[empty pollen]

hmmm dont thinkk so

[potent portal]

It was a prebuilt case from ibuygarbage I was just carrying forward temporarily. Then 2 of the screws decided to do the infinite turn.

[obsidian wigeon]

that i would say potentially has risks in it

here someone would cheap out on psu too

[empty pollen]

people that pay that pretty penny for a 4090 will not have a 13400

new meta will be 13400+3080

or something along those lines

[cyan ravine]

What mobo you have?

[tawny fiber]

Asus Ex b560

[obsidian wigeon]

nah you're not one of those people who turns up rt on everything

those are pretty rare tho

[empty pollen]

[cyan ravine]

Ah yeah, that likely won't do an i9

[tawny fiber]

12400 and 6900xt is recommended plenty everywhere

[empty pollen]

yeah cause of price

[potent portal]

13400 is a lower clocked 12600k with no overclocking so I could see it being the budget choice

[obsidian wigeon]

it's due to price

6900xt is like what

[empty pollen]

dont compare a 6900xt price with a 4090

[obsidian wigeon]

600-700

[cyan ravine]

If you had a better board you could have slapped a 10900K in there to it's absolute limits with an XTX

[empty pollen]

two different worlds

[obsidian wigeon]

that's still not out of grasp

for people with like 1.3k of budget

or higher

[cyan ravine]

10900K is still a bit of a sleeper

11900K as well (Pointless but still quick)

[potent portal]

10c/20t still holds it's own

[obsidian wigeon]

10850K

[cyan ravine]

Indood

[potent portal]

11900k is only good for memory

[cyan ravine]

10850K is good too

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[cyan ravine]

Hell you get a good 10850K sample it's the best of the 3

[obsidian wigeon]

13850K when

[cyan ravine]

You get the full flagship speed for much less

[plain cobalt]

13900K is 13850K

13900KS is the true 13900K

[obsidian wigeon]

no it isn't

[cyan ravine]

Wat

[obsidian wigeon]

ks is just stupid expensive overpriced thing

[cyan ravine]

You know most 13900K's can do 13900KS speeds

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[potent portal]

That'll be the 13900T

[plain cobalt]

same to 10850K to 10900K

[obsidian wigeon]

oh right

13900T

[tawny fiber]

Is the Ex boards not sold in the US?

[empty pollen]

another fabled cpu

[plain cobalt]

ASUS Expedition thingy?

[obsidian wigeon]

but not a K

[potent portal]

35W i9

[cyan ravine]

10900K's binning was all over the place tho

[tawny fiber]

Yes

[obsidian wigeon]

asus ex, expedition series

[cyan ravine]

Between 5.3 and 4.9

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah that's not in the us

it's mostly asian market focused

[plain cobalt]

just get prime series

[cyan ravine]

13900K tends to just like 5.9P or better

[plain cobalt]

13600K can do 6.0 on P if you are lucky enough lol

[obsidian wigeon]

but that's unrelated

[plain cobalt]

I have a friend who has a 13600K can do 6.1P on a drag race, not really daily uses tho

[tawny fiber]

Expensive motherboards would be much easier to digest if they gave more fps

[obsidian wigeon]

i was just speaking of how i kinda wanna see something like 10850K happening again in 13th gen

[cyan ravine]

I believe it

[obsidian wigeon]

but they handle better cpus

[cyan ravine]

Point is to buy what fits the needs of your cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

thus letting you upgrade

[cyan ravine]

Think of them one and the same

Not one supporting the other

[tawny fiber]

Ic

[plain cobalt]

yes actually

depend on what is your choice rn

[obsidian wigeon]

being board limited is no fun

[cyan ravine]

A good mobo can make a cpu run very differently

[empty pollen]

well at some point you will hit diminish returns.... goin more expensive is a waste if you arent an xocer

[potent portal]

Less than 1W per core

[leaden mauve]

that's cool

literally

[empty pollen]

that should be like the 300usd mark

[obsidian wigeon]

that very low base lmao

1.1ghz

[cyan ravine]

Truth but even still, there's a cutoff

To me that's about 150 usd

[obsidian wigeon]

it's obviously meant to go into AIOs

[empty pollen]

true

[obsidian wigeon]

or oem desktops

[plain cobalt]

*per thread

[cyan ravine]

150 gets you a good Z board or AM4

[potent portal]

We'll see the 13900T in those Dell prebuilts that still use 120mm AIOs so they can still put "i9" on the box

[empty pollen]

a z690 a can do pretty much everything needed for a 13900k

goin up from there is for xoc or just fancy things

[obsidian wigeon]

ah yes

alienware moment

make it slow since cooling couldn't even keep up

[potent portal]

Basically yes, but if you want do more or faster memory you need Z790. Or if you want to do 4 sticks of anything.

[tawny fiber]

If X gives same fps as Z but Z is more expensive it's pointless to me imo

[obsidian wigeon]

pay 4k for 13900T and 4090 pc

[plain cobalt]

not the cheapest one but around $200 mark is okay

[obsidian wigeon]

that's dell for ya

[cyan ravine]

Cheap 1dpc exists

[potent portal]

"cheap"

[obsidian wigeon]

for mobos it really does sometimes

since vrms can supply power differently

[plain cobalt]

board is irrelevant tho

[empty pollen]

an asrock z690rs is 140 and can do pretty much the same for much less

[obsidian wigeon]

vrm limiting the cpu perf is a very bad situation to be in

[plain cobalt]

not really recommend Pro RS tho

at least get Steel Legend

[obsidian wigeon]

it's basically you paying for something but getting less than what you should be getting

[tawny fiber]

Not in games 13900k seems to suck 130 at most

Most people Don do cinebench 24 hours

[potent portal]

Assrock knows that well being literally the only one still enforcing Intel guidelines by default

[obsidian wigeon]

you're just forgetting about peaks tho

[leaden mauve]

thats only an issue on the very low-end of mobos from what i can tell

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[cyan ravine]

Asrock itx but it works

[leaden mauve]

of each product line i mean for their corresponding cpus

[obsidian wigeon]

and that's what safi is trying to do im guessing

[leaden mauve]

oh 💀

[obsidian wigeon]

get absolute worst board just to save money

[empty pollen]

safi moment

[potent portal]

I need a "todd howard" emote on my personal server...

[obsidian wigeon]

anyway, yeah modern mobos are good now

[plain cobalt]

not really recommend Z690M-ITX/ac for anything higher than 13600K tbh

[tawny fiber]

A ds3h is my dream board

[plain cobalt]

fk ds3h

[obsidian wigeon]

as long as it's not basement bargain garbage

[plain cobalt]

get B660M Pro RS instead

if you want cheap board

[empty pollen]

he was teasing you

[plain cobalt]

much better than gigakek

[empty pollen]

[cyan ravine]

Z690 itx in general is hot tho lol

But you can get the high memory speeds if you really want it

[obsidian wigeon]

im fine with anything but low end gigabyte board

[plain cobalt]

gigakek low end is meh

[obsidian wigeon]

asrock is honestly the only good one there is for cheap boards

[empty pollen]

gigglebyte

[obsidian wigeon]

especially for intel

[plain cobalt]

D3H is the borderline

[tawny fiber]

I find it hard to spend more then 100$ on board but that is my opinion ofc

[plain cobalt]

anything worse than that, don't get anything higher than 12400

[cyan ravine]

I'm actually really impressed with asrock this gen

[obsidian wigeon]

it's a problem when asrock has better board

[cyan ravine]

That bios flash standard changes everything

[obsidian wigeon]

for the same price

[plain cobalt]

Assrock RGB is an ass

even Gigakek is better than Polychrome

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah but it's better than getting gigabyte ds3h

[empty pollen]

you will eventually kneel, price arent goin cheaper in the foreseeable future

[obsidian wigeon]

and besides you do have other softwares

[plain cobalt]

yeah, if RGB is non-essential, ASrock is always better for the price

[obsidian wigeon]

if you use corsair fans there's erm, icue

[tawny fiber]

Ds3h still a lot better then hdv

[potent portal]

[cyan ravine]

DS3H has a very bad history 💀

[plain cobalt]

B660M Pro RS, B660M PG Riptide (not really recommended due to 4-layer PCB, although it's 14 (or 7x2) phase VRM)

[obsidian wigeon]

there's still budget series like pro rs

steel legend and such

[cyan ravine]

Yeah for ds3h prices these days you have a lot better options

[plain cobalt]

B660M DS3H is slightly better, at least Gigakek put a VRM heatsink for the left part but still didnt give anything to the top

D3H is technically DS3H but in full ATX and better VRM heatsink

[obsidian wigeon]

B650 ds3h is also not very bad

does have heatsink for all vrms

[plain cobalt]

maybe 12600K but not anything higher than that

[obsidian wigeon]

side and top

[plain cobalt]

B650 Gaming X

[cyan ravine]

You can say the same about b650 but AM5 in general is overpriced

[obsidian wigeon]

but i still don't like ds3h regardless

it's almost always that one bad board

[cyan ravine]

They overspecced it to hell with AM5 and they're all expensive

[plain cobalt]

yup, i rather get D2H

same thing but cheaper

[obsidian wigeon]

ds2h?

[cyan ravine]

HDV...

[plain cobalt]

most ppl dont need more than 2dimm

[obsidian wigeon]

i don't recall of it existing

[cyan ravine]

[obsidian wigeon]

[plain cobalt]

D2H, D2V replacement, actually exist as Gaming HD in B560 lineup

[leaden mauve]

what if i want 24 dimms

[obsidian wigeon]

um

[potent portal]

Then you do dual socket epyc

[obsidian wigeon]

get an epyc

[leaden mauve]

what if i want 48 dimms

[cyan ravine]

We have a special place you can go to

They tie you up in a straight jacket

[plain cobalt]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B660M-D2H-DDR4-rev-10

[obsidian wigeon]

huh okay

[potent portal]

That is not what I thought you were going for 🔥

[obsidian wigeon]

that looks like classic ds3h deal with no heatsink

[plain cobalt]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B660M-GAMING-DDR4-rev-10 same thing, different color

[obsidian wigeon]

usual cheap gigabyte

[plain cobalt]

MSI B660M-A is the best budget board

[tawny fiber]

More expensive aswell irrc

[obsidian wigeon]

msi pro series is pretty good

[plain cobalt]

not really that much higher than Pro RS, you get decent RGB and a good VRM for even an i7

[obsidian wigeon]

more expensive but worth it imo

[cyan ravine]

Honestly give me a cheap msi pro every time and I wouldn't truly complain

[plain cobalt]

around $10-15 more compare to Pro RS

around $12

[obsidian wigeon]

msi pro z790 can be had for even like 200

[cyan ravine]

New msi pro they're sticking those ridiculous like, 90A stages on them

[obsidian wigeon]

that's impressive

[plain cobalt]

yup, MSI is no joke on their VRM game

[cyan ravine]

The ceiling

You found it

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[plain cobalt]

but in a long run, MSI boards usually fail first for some reasons idk

[tawny fiber]

Have to be after their x570 fiasco

[plain cobalt]

maybe just the basic board

X570 isnt a problem

[obsidian wigeon]

wdym x570?

[plain cobalt]

Gaming Plus itself isnt a high end product

[obsidian wigeon]

the godlike that had some production issues that got fixed?

it was just flipped caps

[cyan ravine]

Hero moment

[plain cobalt]

you know what worse about X570? X570 UD

[tawny fiber]

https://youtu.be/UZWUOldsxXQ

[potent portal]

Mine have always been fine. I had a 970 FX board and a X470 board. The X470 stopped loading XMP near the end of warranty and they upgraded me to X570.

[obsidian wigeon]

that ain't related to msi tho

it's just tom's hw stuff

[plain cobalt]

I sold a lot of MSI and its return rate is the same compare to others

[tawny fiber]

It is watch vid

[obsidian wigeon]

idk im too lazy to bother

[plain cobalt]

giga kek z370 also a disaster

[obsidian wigeon]

nothing too impactful on buying decision

[plain cobalt]

especially entry level aorus like Aorus Gaming 3

[tawny fiber]

Wake me up when more expensive motherboards start giving more fps

[potent portal]

Entry level anything on Intel always seems to be horrible

[obsidian wigeon]

they actually do give more fps if you're not a cheap ass

that's all i'd say

[plain cobalt]

depends on the setup tbh

[obsidian wigeon]

like spend some more to have a much better board

then again it depends on budget and setup

what parts to pair with

[plain cobalt]

example: 13900K + B660M DS3H will give less FPS than a decent Z690 with 13900K

[potent portal]

Yeah some mid or high end boards will auto OC for you the minute you boot it up

[plain cobalt]

I spent on board because its features

[cyan ravine]

I spend on a board for power and memory limits

[plain cobalt]

I don't really care about the VRM stuff my journey to be come an ASUS user is just: X570 TUF is the cheapest that has 8 SATA and support 2000 series CPU so I can drop in an upgrade later

[cyan ravine]

But within reason

[plain cobalt]

and i found out X570 TUF is the best value board across the AM4 generation

[potent portal]

I always buy midrange for almost everything. I find it lasts longer with fewer issues in the long run.

[cyan ravine]

I tend to steer clear of asus now

So sick of armoury crate

[obsidian wigeon]

but you use tuf 2022

smh

[cyan ravine]

Yes cos the price was too good

[potent portal]

Given the choice I would have gotten a 3070 over my 3080 ti but shortage is as shortage does

[cyan ravine]

But my tuf 22 doesn't random cmos reset

Or break the rgb monthly

[obsidian wigeon]

fair nuff

[plain cobalt]

mine also didnt random cmos reset

[obsidian wigeon]

asus laptops are gud

[plain cobalt]

RGB fix is easy

I reselect the effect and it works

[cyan ravine]

But I could just...not need to do it every month lol

[tawny fiber]

I went with the strix gpu because I like having more cooling on the gpus,0 dB and dual bios

[cyan ravine]

I paid for a premium board I shouldn't get kneecapped by software tbh

[tawny fiber]

Even some 3080s don't have dual bios iirc

[plain cobalt]

I do it almost every freaking day

[potent portal]

Most don't even

[cyan ravine]

That sounds painful lol

[obsidian wigeon]

0db feature can literally be had for any gpus

[plain cobalt]

because i never turn off my PC

[obsidian wigeon]

set fan curve to 0% for lower temp

[plain cobalt]

and I plugged speaker into an audio jack on my monitor

and it's running displayport, and displayport has a hotplug bug/feature

[obsidian wigeon]

besides most gpus likes to turn their fans off when temp isn't high enough

[plain cobalt]

if you turn off displayport device, it count as removed from the PC

[tawny fiber]

Also the gpu clocks really high then others but dk if that is thx to it being a strix

[plain cobalt]

so I have to re-select RGB mode sometimes to make lighting works again

[obsidian wigeon]

it's only like +100mhz or so of oc

or even less

[cyan ravine]

If you gave me an asus board that was good without any rgb I'd probably be happy to use it

[plain cobalt]

ProArt

[cyan ravine]

Hell ig just turn off in bios

[obsidian wigeon]

i really want asus lappy

[cyan ravine]

But even then it resets itself on

[obsidian wigeon]

strix or tuf 2022

[potent portal]

That was on a killer sale recently

[obsidian wigeon]

hell tuf 2021 is fine

i just want 3060 goddammit

tuf dash f15 is cheap but 11300H, seriously?

quad core

[tawny fiber]

Pro art actually looks good enough to be worth paying extra for imo

[obsidian wigeon]

quad core 3060 laptop sounds like a joke

[cyan ravine]

11300H is fine

It's not as bad as you think, it'll def play games fine

[potent portal]

Quad core is still fine for the majority of games but an increasing number like 6+

[obsidian wigeon]

i want it to last a long while ree

not worry about it later

[plain cobalt]

get Legion 5, the best laptop for the price

[obsidian wigeon]

legion 5 is so expensive here

it's not funny

[plain cobalt]

yup it's pricey

[cyan ravine]

11400H

[plain cobalt]

but it worth the price tag

[obsidian wigeon]

rite but it on tuf 2021 only

[cyan ravine]

You could argue the newer msi katana's are really good too

[obsidian wigeon]

also expensive

[plain cobalt]

100% sRGB (actually 98-99-ish but okay), 144-165hz, you can get 1440p with Legion 5 Pro

[cyan ravine]

Le oof

[obsidian wigeon]

i really am wanting victus

[plain cobalt]

no gaming asus has anything better than 42% NTSC iirc

[obsidian wigeon]

pretty cheap with 5600h/5800h

[plain cobalt]

Victus 16inch is okay

[tawny fiber]

I wanna sell my 3050 laptop for a macbook

[cyan ravine]

Join the ryzen side

Ryzen mobile ftw

[obsidian wigeon]

that's a false info since strix has nice screen

[tawny fiber]

It sits and collects dusts

[potent portal]

out of stock in most places

[cyan ravine]

For a good reason then

[obsidian wigeon]

they're in stock just expensive here new

[potent portal]

Well yes, the good reason is they're focusing supply on consoles and not laptops

[plain cobalt]

nope, still 45% NTSC

especially sub 1k5 USD territory

[obsidian wigeon]

only for some regions i guess

in mine it has 100% srgb panel

[plain cobalt]

yeah, but is it over 1k5?

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[tawny fiber]

If we go by console standard

[obsidian wigeon]

1.1k

[plain cobalt]

model name?

[obsidian wigeon]

4800h+3060 variant

[tawny fiber]

People with better gpu then 3060 seem pretty safe for now

[obsidian wigeon]

GL543IM i believe

[cyan ravine]

Wait you have a 3060?

[plain cobalt]

4800H is technically a clearance

not really original price

[tawny fiber]

No

But that kinda what the series x gpu performs like

[obsidian wigeon]

na not yet lol

[cyan ravine]

Oh

[obsidian wigeon]

recent release tho

[cyan ravine]

It sounded like you did

Lolol

[obsidian wigeon]

it's just a case of using last gen cpu

on new chassis

[potent portal]

Considering the gap in time between major console releases yeah. 7 years between PS4 and PS5, and we're only 2 years into the PS5.

Portal RTX still says you should have a 4080 though lol

[plain cobalt]

not sure should i trust retail listing tho

[obsidian wigeon]

all retails, even asus confirms of the screen

[tawny fiber]

3060 and upwards do fine with dlss in that game tbh

[potent portal]

"Fine" sure but the whole point is to max out the RT

[obsidian wigeon]

wait ah i guess it's really got just 45% ntsc then

fine for me

[tawny fiber]

You are but not at the same pixel count as the 4080

[cyan ravine]

Pfft

Let's max it at 480p

[plain cobalt]

45% NTSC mean somewhere around 72% sRGB, which is a cheapo thing

[obsidian wigeon]

not that i care anyway

been living with 768P TN

[cyan ravine]

Honestly for the rest of the specs it's still a good laptop for the right price

[obsidian wigeon]

i ain't here to make arts or anything beautiful lel

just game n other stuff

[cyan ravine]

If I want an amazing screen an M27Q or proart isn't far away

Plug that bad boi in

Yeet

[potent portal]

If it doesn't have a MUX then you'll get more fps with the external display too

[obsidian wigeon]

ye it lacks mux

[cyan ravine]

Mux is a beautiful thing

[obsidian wigeon]

since 2021 model

legion 5 does

and its used price ain't too shabby

[cyan ravine]

I can go a couple days without charging sometimes with my TUF

Really really worth paying for

[obsidian wigeon]

but i honestly just wanna save money and go for victus/tuf 2021

besides um

for similar price as legion 5

3070 tuf 2021 does appear sometimes

so like, lack of mux ain't bad when i can step up in gpu instead

moar vram

[potent portal]

Mux alone can mean 10-15% fps

[obsidian wigeon]

ye but extra vram does help

for future

[tawny fiber]

Only when it makes sense relative to its performance

[obsidian wigeon]

im aware of that

[gentle pollen]

Out of curiosity, would you guys say a laptop with:

I7-11700H
RTX 3060m
8gb ram
1tb SSD

Is pretty good for $700?
I already have it, just curious what you guys think of it, it's an MSI Sword .

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Put a sodimm in for 8 more gb

[obsidian wigeon]

i would do it

[cyan ravine]

That would be a solid purchase

[obsidian wigeon]

slap ram in that baby and boom

good laptop

msi sword is simply katana but erm

[cyan ravine]

Msi sword is very nice

[obsidian wigeon]

different color

[cyan ravine]

I can vouch

[obsidian wigeon]

white

basically yin and yang of laptop lolol

black and white

[gentle pollen]

Found it as a laptop for my father when he needed a new one and the plan is that it'll go to me when he switches to one of those foldable 2 in 1 laptops in the future, xD.

Looking forward to that day in the near future.

[gentle pollen]

Yes, here's to praying the white doesn't get turned to yellow or something.

[obsidian wigeon]

it will do that since plastic

unfortunately

[gentle pollen]

Oof, well I suppose it's still decent specs.

Maybe I will do a bumble bee paint job on it when it does.

[plain cobalt]

[obsidian wigeon]

the heck is that

oh case fan

[cyan ravine]

That???

Case???

Looks like something I'd stick on the back of a submarine

[plain cobalt]

look pretty cool on 3d render image tho

[potent portal]

If you want your pc to look like it has flowers in it instead of fans (and perform like it too I'd guess) that could be cool

[flint sapphire]

Now with all new anti airflow technology

[potent portal]

Yeah that design goes against common fluid dynamics sense that every fan before has used. But they want to look different, so that's what you get.

[flint sapphire]

what if, they just made the posts wayyyy thinner

would never happen but eh

[potent portal]

Still wouldn't be good because you need to have the blades as close to the outside as possible to maximize pressure

[flint sapphire]

true

[potent portal]

Plus there's no cage to direct the airflow and pressure

[flint sapphire]

plus they probably have to sacrifice fan size doing a sandwiched blade like tht

[potent portal]

Just like the uni fans sacrifice fan size for looks

[fossil cedar]

Oi nzxt has a patent on that

[plain cobalt]

nah im fine with lianli stock

[knotty grotto]

Limited-time deal: Crucial P3 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD, up to 5000MB/s - CT2000P3PSSD8 https://a.co/d/8XPXlka

[paper summit]

Prob mad loud too

[tawny violet]

Wow that looks like a pretty good one

[viscid tapir]

Best 64 gb ram??

[obsidian wigeon]

Which cpu and mobo?

[quasi knot]

Would it bad to register (not sure if right word) a riser cable as different item for signal rgb?

[timber glade]

Quick question. Which gfx card would go well for dual 2k monitors. Decently spec'ed monitors and possibly 4k in the future. Also one that doesn't break the bank...

[obsidian wigeon]

Sounds like a radeon would do well for you

What's your budget exactly?

And your use case

[timber glade]

Some gaming mostly watching movies. 700 is most I would nut would prefer 600ish. I might do ultrawides because I'll prob end up playing newer racing games

[obsidian wigeon]

Then 6900XT should fit your budget

Or 6950XT if price is the same

[timber glade]

Neat thanks

[obsidian wigeon]

I'd recommend getting at least a 850W psu before you do so tho

Just to be safe, unless your current one is good enough

[timber glade]

Yea already have a corsair 850. Im a data hoarder so I need to power all the spare hdds I have lol.

[obsidian wigeon]

Hmn well, that's fine enough then

[knotty grotto]

Which is better?

Limited-time deal: Crucial P3 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD, up to 5000MB/s - CT2000P3PSSD8 https://a.co/d/c8AHu71

Kingston NV2 2TB M.2 2280 NVMe Internal SSD | PCIe 4.0 Gen 4x4 | Up to 3500 MB/s | SNV2S/2000G https://a.co/d/5zuUcv3

[obsidian wigeon]

NV2 all the way

[knotty grotto]

What makes it better? To my untrained eye (very new to all this) it would appear the Crucial is faster

[mossy venture]

Sequential speeds aren't really important for gaming and such

Random write speeds, as well as some other things that I don't know well are more important

[knotty grotto]

Main focus will be photo editing

[tawny violet]

Okay question time
If you have a given budget (let's say 1200 bucks) to build a system and you need to also include peripherals (monitor, mouse+keyboard, headphones)
How would you split it between the PC itself and the peripherals? How much of the budget would you spend on parts in the tower?

[stoic island]

It depends on specific pricing, for the US, decent 1080p144 monitors start at 150$, decent mice starts around 50$, keyboard might have to make some sacrifices for 50$, and headphones for 50$. That leaves you 950$ for a PC.

Spent the least you can for decent peripherals, and put the rest in the PC

There's a noticeable difference between say 10$ mouse and 50$ mouse, but beyond that it's just shape and very small technical differences

[tawny violet]

I see

[stoic island]

False, you'd do itx :p

Cheapo itx is doable

Like iirc b550i is still cheap, and grab 5600

[tawny violet]

Interesting take ngl

Not what I would've expected
But it is pretty sweet

I wonder if buying used would be worth it

[stoic island]

Depends

[tawny violet]

Especially since prices here in Hungary are way too high

145 bucks only gets me a 1080p 75hz monitor for example

At least it's a new monitor

But still, prices are dummy expensive around here

Lmao

I mean frankly even a 1080 Ti would have more than enough horsepower for the games I'd play

And I can get a 1080 Ti for 110k HUF

Used obviously

While a 6700 would be closer to 150k HUF

As I said stuff's stoopid here

Lucky

Building a PC based on a platform from the last 2 years would be so expensive for me... I hate living here

Everything is so expensive, damn it!

[stoic island]

At least it's better than SA

And Hungary is worse than most of Europe for pricing

Politics reasons

Or I write my final paper

[tawny violet]

The worst part is how weak our currency is to USD

It was kind of okay 4 or 5 years ago

[stoic island]

Final exam tonight, final paper tomorrow :p

Thank

[stoic island]

Not exactly a common reserve currency

[tawny violet]

But now it's weaker than peanuts, and so everything gets way expensive, not to mention tariffs and import taxes

But I probably shouldn't complain about that here
Apologies

[potent portal]

Most countries are having issues like that right now thanks to global recession

[earnest olive]

me too

i'm doing ram oc on this 1500x with a ram kit that's not even meant for it

just because i can

@potent portal turns out your 1500x has a decent IMC

3467 stable on zen1 not bad

[potent portal]

Interesting. It was living on a single stick of 16gb 2400 before lol.

[stoic island]

Sounds pretty good

[earnest olive]

3533 rebooted after 3 minutes

might be stable with more vsoc

[stoic island]

Feel like most chips don't go above 3200

[earnest olive]

current progress

[potent portal]

3200 is hit or miss yeah

[earnest olive]

it's on a cheap b350 too

so

[potent portal]

Mostly because IF is coupled

[stoic island]

No u

[earnest olive]

the board is only rated for 3200

[stoic island]

Dunno if the board matters that much for 3200 lol

[earnest olive]

i've had cheap am4 boards that were the limiting factor in achieving 3200

[stoic island]

How bad could the memory traces really be

[earnest olive]

r5 3600 + bottom of the barrel b450 + 3200c16 ram

r5 3600 certainly shouldn't be the limiting factor

but the board was limiting it to 3000

[stoic island]

Were you using like hdv...?

[earnest olive]

something like that lol

[stoic island]

uno reverse card

[earnest olive]

and now it will live on a single stick of 16gb 2666

upgrades

LOL

[potent portal]

The board it was on before is only rated for 3200 also lol. It can have my old C-die.

I already know that C-die gets along with the 2700 he's getting upgraded to. I set a lot of records with that 2700.

I managed to get it stable at 4.15GHz all core in most benches

Which is higher than its boost clock default

[earnest olive]

did you oc the 1500x?

[potent portal]

No

It's barely used even

[earnest olive]

i am going to oc it for lord knows what reason

gonna set the time spy record for 1500x + r5 240 🤡

great combo

[elfin flame]

12100+3070
12900k+3090
13600k+6650xt

[potent portal]

Ooh fun

Not a 13700k with the 3090?

[upper ore]

What is this supposed to plug into? Im starting to work on my mount again today now that im not extremely annoyed. lol

[potent portal]

rgb

[cyan ravine]

Argb 5v

/jrainbow1

[potent portal]

Ah you have it already sweet

[south snow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Vex6900/saved/qVxYNG suggestions?

[upper ore]

On the motherboard or what?

[cyan ravine]

That board and ssd are an absolute no

The gpu could change if you are just gaming

Psu too, expensive

[cyan ravine]

Yes, it should have a second plug on the cable

[south snow]

whats wrong w/ the ssd?

[frigid night]

That's a connector to daisy chain more argb. That's a male end.. The female end is what you would plug into the motherboard.

[cyan ravine]

Horribly expensive, there's a better option for nearly half the price

And an even better better option for $50 less iirc

[south snow]

2tb ssd?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

980 pro hasn't been the best for a long time

[shut rampart]

hi

[cyan ravine]

I'll have a look at the list again and change it, you're gaming? Or other stuff

[south snow]

gaming

friend wants wifi too but could just add wifi card

[cyan ravine]

Ok I can definitely make something way faster

Brb

[shut rampart]

can u do my

[upper ore]

So i dont need to use it if i can plug straight into the motherboard with the female end?

[frigid night]

correct. It should have come with a little cap on the end to keep the pins from being exposed.

[shut rampart]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/IcyRed/saved/VBjt3C

3k Budget but prob going to upgrade in like 1-2 years from now streaming and gaming

[mossy venture]

what i threw together quickly https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PXZ9Y9

i'd wait for felix's

[shut rampart]

someone said to buy new mointors which I will prob do that, but got to look to find who wants to buy my old monitors...

[mossy venture]

but it's fun

i like playing frisbee with them

they don't go very far though

[south snow]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-computer-mad-rage-gif-7885195

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PvhF9r
White build

If you wanted to get a separate wifi card for $20 there's another $60 in this that could be cheaper

It'll slap the 3070 Ti build to the moon tho

[mossy venture]

could get a teamgroup 3600c18 white rgb kit for a bit more if wanted

[cyan ravine]

Oh yeah for sure

I'll add those in actually as an option

[south snow]

Wao

[mossy venture]

personally I'd get a 2tb drive to save the slot for future expansion if needed

[cyan ravine]

I saved 50$ using 2x 1tb tho

Mp33 moment lol

Could use a different second drive tho for sure

I added the white rgb ram @south snow

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CYwypg/teamgroup-mp34-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4002t0c101 id just use this

[south snow]

doubt thats needed for the planned usage, if necessary just a 2TB sata on the side

[south snow]

🙏

[cyan ravine]

How much of this you have?

[shut rampart]

all