building-and-recc-chat

[weary galleon]

yeah the enermax isnt fully modular so some cables will be coming out sorta as a bundle

Are there 2 separate pcie cables or is it a daisy chain?

[ionic tangle]

a daisy chain i believe, theyre attached at a common base to attach to psu, this is what pcpp says; Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Enermax REVOLUTION X't 730 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply does not have any available. This connector is used to supply additional current. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands or extreme overclocking may require it.

am i off in what im thinking about>

[weary galleon]

yeah you don't need the extra pcie for motherboard,

but for gpu you might need more than one

looks like a770 is 8 pin and 6 pin

[ionic tangle]

so either of the psu should work for that tho? out of the two what would you recommend?

[weary galleon]

The Enermax is A tier I believe, so if you have enough cables i'd use that

[ionic tangle]

thanks much!!

[weary galleon]

if possible, use 2 separate pcie cables for gpu

[ionic tangle]

Won’t let my upload pic

Anyway there are two 6+2 pins at the end of two cords, connected together to a single 12pin

[weary galleon]

You can DM me pics if you want

Or upload to image hosting site and share link

Keep chatting and once you level up you can directly send images

[ionic tangle]

thanks! ill try to get to it in a few, afk for a bit

[ionic tangle]

https://www.moddiy.com/products/ENERMAX-Revolution-12-Pin-to-Dual-8-Pin-Modular-PCIE-Sleeved-Cable.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA-dCcBhBQEiwAeWidtePxryqhc54vKFHGbofOIeZvDoXlRy7XrN8WA7klR1oz4-a3J0RAzBoCEV8QAvD_BwE

[rugged anvil]

okay so i figured my mobo already had a screw built in for the ssd

what exactly do i do now that im in windows

[stoic island]

Open up disk management

[rugged anvil]

alright

[weary galleon]

Pretty sure that is better than a daisy chain cable so you should be fine.

[rugged anvil]

looking at this atm

[stoic island]

Right click the unallocated volume or whatever

Scroll down

[rugged anvil]

right

[ionic tangle]

awesome! thanks stevie!

[rugged anvil]

new simple volume?

[stoic island]

Ye

[rugged anvil]

ntfs default and new volume right

[stoic island]

Yes

[shut rampart]

I can't press on new simple volume

[stoic island]

initialize drive should be an option somewhere

[shut rampart]

ok

and gpt?

or mbr

[stoic island]

gpt

[shut rampart]

ok I set it up is there anyway I can move my window into this drive

or I have to reinstall

[stoic island]

reinstall you'll have to delete the partition again

[shut rampart]

sadge

[woven horizon]

Mine? It was just an estimate, it was free to me in a for parts machine I bought.

[mossy venture]

Ahh ok

Pretty excessive on that price lol

[woven horizon]

More or less it’s 0, eBay prices are all over the place. And I can’t find that ram in stock.

[severe matrix]

when do u guys think prices for mid tier gpus will drop down/be back in stock? such as the 6700 xt or something

[obsidian wigeon]

They're already normal and everything

At least for amd

Nvidia not so

You can easily get 6650xt for like 240 rn lol

[severe matrix]

ohh i was looking at amazon

[obsidian wigeon]

Yeah don't just look at amazon only

Newegg has the good stuff currently

[severe matrix]

i have a gift card for them so im just waiting but not sure if its gpus there will be normal soon

or i could maybe buy used on facebook marketplace

[obsidian wigeon]

https://www.amazon.com/Radeon-Graphics-DisplayPort-Axial-tech-Technology/dp/B09J84XCLG

Just get this

It's even below msrp

It's an asus dual but eh, works well enough if you really have to get it from amazon

[severe matrix]

ohh is that for buying the used one

for 370

[obsidian wigeon]

Um, no

This is brand new

[severe matrix]

isnt 600 way above msrp

for the normal price

[obsidian wigeon]

Huh?

Shows 389 for me

[severe matrix]

oh it defaulted to another seller for some reason

maybe

[obsidian wigeon]

This is the best deal I can find so far on amazon

[severe matrix]

oof jan 12 delivery

2

[obsidian wigeon]

Anything lower only costs like 80 less

6650xt for 300

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just my location lmao

don't worry if you're in the us

[severe matrix]

ahh ok

but ill probably go used since people are selling for like ~320 around my area

unless it goes down soon

[obsidian wigeon]

i would say it's meh imo

used price isn't that great when brand new is not much more

besides amazon has good returns policy and stuff

[severe matrix]

i guess yea

[dim forge]

my 2060 finally arrived

[little osprey]

i need pc help

[obsidian wigeon]

What kind of help exactly?

Like what's the problem you're facing

[little osprey]

well i upgraded my pc for charismas and it acting up

[cyan ravine]

Does it want to go to acting school

What kind of trouble is it doing?

[little osprey]

so i built the pc and i got it to work kinda but when i boot to windows and log in it randomly shuts town

its not heating issues nothing is hot

[cyan ravine]

Just, abruptly?

[obsidian wigeon]

You can't feel the heat with your own hands

[little osprey]

do you need to know my specs

[cyan ravine]

At idle?

[obsidian wigeon]

But this sounds like thermal shutdown

[frigid night]

No. It wants to be punished.

[little osprey]

yes a min or 2 after i log in

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep, that's what I would call thermal issue

[little osprey]

i see

[obsidian wigeon]

Did you upgrade the cpu by any chance?

[little osprey]

what do i need to do to fix it

[little osprey]

yes to the 3rd gen treadripper 32 core

[obsidian wigeon]

And what cooler?

[little osprey]

the kracken

from...

[obsidian wigeon]

nxzt?

[little osprey]

yes]

[obsidian wigeon]

nzxt*

ah okay

[little osprey]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

Have you reapplied thermal paste while you do the upgrade?

[little osprey]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay, then is the cooler fan spinning?

I would check aio pump speed in the bios too

[frigid night]

Might even do a remount if the aio speed is fine.

[little osprey]

ok

[cyan ravine]

Hmm

Could also just be threadripper issues

I wonder if changing the LLC will help

[little osprey]

oh ok can you join chat so we can talk direectly if its ok

i dont usually mess with bios cause i just usually build pc's and not the other part of it

[cyan ravine]

No I can't

[little osprey]

darn

[cyan ravine]

I'm at work and I don't normally do that

[little osprey]

i see

[little osprey]

i need help with bios then and how to check the pump and stuff then

[obsidian wigeon]

Try looking up for your board and see which key is used to enter the bios

[gentle pollen]

@desert sigil, is that a server below your PC and please explain, how do you use so many monitors....

[frigid night]

Well for his main pc, 4 isn't a whole lot. So.. easily. For his middle setup, looks like he has to monitor a few different things.. so.. easily. On the left he only has the laptop with 1 monitor so.. easily. Lol. Each setup most likely has specific uses, and judging by the second chair near the laptop, I assume that's a setup for someone else.

[desert sigil]

@gentle pollen @frigid night

Main PC is for gaming and work. Middle PC is for retro games and the laptop station is to monitor my servers or watch videos from bed.

My server rack has a NAS and raspberry pi webserver. UPS too!

[frigid night]

Noice noice. Overall clean setup 👌

[feral bobcat]

hi gamers

im noob @ hardware

please help me to solve the hw issues

i have single samsung 980 pro 2 tb

every time i right click on a file to unzip or unrar a file, winrar freezes about 10 secs

why

[feral bobcat]

hello

[frigid night]

Have you tried reinstalling Winrar?

Also, are you having any issues with other programs freezing when you open them?

[feral bobcat]

wow fixed now

but most of the time on some programs when click on open files

also rarely my monitor (xb253q) goes black and when i switch the graphics card display port, Everything will be fine

[frigid night]

Sounds like you need to DDU

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[feral bobcat]

idk its monitor or graphics card ( rog 3080 v2)

[frigid night]

Use the guide to uninstall your graphics drivers, then you'll want to reinstall the latest drivers.

[feral bobcat]

i returned the case to manufacturer and they said the system is ok

[frigid night]

They are dumb.

[feral bobcat]

i always install nv driver without ddu

[fossil cedar]

When you change display port that's usual

[frigid night]

and that is most likely why you are experiencing the random black screens on your monitor.

[fossil cedar]

Oh wait do you mean stay black?

Yeah ddu then

[frigid night]

it goes black, then he switches what port it's in and it goes back to normal

[fossil cedar]

Hmm could be monitor but ddu is no harm

[frigid night]

Yeah, especially since he said that he's only just installed drivers over each other.

[feral bobcat]

win 10 latest updates with latest drivers

my monitor is hdr g-sync compatible

very buggy with hdr and g-s

[frigid night]

yeah, I keep gsync off on all my monitors.

[frigid night]

That's fine and dandy, but GPU drivers go wonky ALL the time. We see it constantly here. In most cases, DDU will solve all the issues related to display.

If DDU doesn't fix your issue, the next tip would be to swap out your HDMI or DisplayPort Cable.

Those will go bad too.

[feral bobcat]

what about my ssd

diagnostic scan doesnt show anything

but foobar2000 always load so slow

the latest version samsung magician and firmware is installed

mpc-hc loads so fast

how to check the ssd health

[south cliff]

My cat just picked on my pc and I cleaned almost everything and now it won’t display anything

Puked

[feral bobcat]

Even now, it took 10 seconds for this file to load when I opened it!

[south cliff]

Someone kill me now

[frigid night]

What CPU do you have?

Also, how full is your SSD?

[south cliff]

Bro I forgot about the warranty sticker

[feral bobcat]

5900x

[south cliff]

And skrewed into it

[feral bobcat]

1.03 tb used

[frigid night]

What file?

[feral bobcat]

👆

[feral bobcat]

this, just for opening, its totally random, sometimes freezes sometimes loads the open windows so fast

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/yzdile/samsung_980_pro_micro_freezes_problems/

[frigid night]

@feral bobcat Get this posted into #storage-devices because this might get lost in this channel. Also, someone that doesn't watch this channel may be watching that channel and can help you. I have no clue when it comes to storage issues.

[south cliff]

Should I put my toy in rice

Gpu

My cat puked on it

[frigid night]

No.

[south cliff]

Like I mean it was bad

[frigid night]

You may have to take your GPU apart to get it all the way cleaned.

[south cliff]

It was like black and green

[frigid night]

Rice isn't going to absorb puke out of the gpu like it would water. Also, Rice is gonna get all up in your GPU and that's gonna be just as a pain to get it out as the puke.

[south cliff]

This is where it was bad

I tried to clean it

But it was like green and black

On it

And the pcie thing had it on it to

[analog pulsar]

I would just buy a new gpu

[frigid night]

What did you clean it with?

[south cliff]

Towel and then a toothbrush

Like I just taped the towel#

[frigid night]

and?

[south cliff]

That’s it

[frigid night]

no water?

[south cliff]

I have alcohol

[frigid night]

ok

[south cliff]

I don’t have 400 dollars to spend

[analog pulsar]

[south cliff]

Is this fine

[frigid night]

Were you reallllly gentle with that toothbrush and towel?

[frigid night]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

you just have to clean it and make sure it's all dry

and hope the gpu works

[south cliff]

So the alcohol is fine to use

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[frigid night]

yes.

It's what I would use.

[south cliff]

91 percent

Or do I have to get a different one

[obsidian wigeon]

i even used 70 lol, it's fine

[south cliff]

Ok just making sure

[obsidian wigeon]

70% just took quite a while to dry

and was an ordeal to make sure it dries properly

[frigid night]

I get that you are making sure, but we have said it more than enough.

[south cliff]

I’m sorry I’m just stressing

Air dry

?

[frigid night]

I understand. GPU is spendy. Best you can do is make sure it's clean clean AND --->!! DRY !!<---

[frigid night]

yep. Let it sit a good while to be sure.

[south cliff]

Ok

[frigid night]

alchohol evaps, but 91% still has 9% base.

[analog pulsar]

I gotta ask

[frigid night]

No.

[analog pulsar]

Why did the cat throw up on it and HOW

[south cliff]

She was sleeping on it last night and didn’t move when she did

[analog pulsar]

Omg

[south cliff]

They like it because it’s hot

[analog pulsar]

that's right

Yea they do but I would NEVER let the cat on the gpu itself they can sleep onto of case

[south cliff]

She did it

[obsidian wigeon]

I would let the gpu sit for at least 24 hours

Or overnight

[south cliff]

Should I rap it anything

[obsidian wigeon]

No

Just leave it to air dry

[frigid night]

set it in front of a fan if you can.

a fan will help evap whatever moisture.

[south cliff]

It looks smeary

But the thing is I turned my gpu on

Or pc

[frigid night]

it looks.. like you went ham with that toothbrush.

[south cliff]

I didn’t

Or didn’t mean to

[frigid night]

In the future. Use qtips

[south cliff]

I was just doing circles

I have some

Does the pub look bad

?

Pcb

[frigid night]

go over it with some more alchohol and q tips then show again.

[south cliff]

Ok

[frigid night]

I want to see if the "what looks like scratches" goes away.

[frigid night]

be gentle with the qtips.

[south cliff]

I am

[frigid night]

If you take a papertowel on the whiteish looking part, does it go away?

[south cliff]

I would say a little bit

[frigid night]

Alright, let it dry in front of a fan for overnight or so and then get it put back together and see if it works.

[south cliff]

I’m going to wait a pretty long time just in case

Thank you for your help btw

[analog hearth]

@desert sigil is that an ROG server?

[reef cedar]

I am looking for someone that has built a Live-streaming, Video Editing PC that can help with suggestions on the best and reasonable components, CPU, Nvidia GPU, Motherboard. This is to livestream Church Sermons for the Congregation.

[fossil cedar]

how much you looking to spend?

[reef cedar]

This is a Church, so I know they want to spend as little as possible. However, I know they want a solid machine that will livestream 1080P with possible 4K in the future.

So I will say as close to 2k to 2.5 k as possible would be a stretch for expenses though that could be alright but, I doubt this will be a 10k pc build.

[heavy atlas]

is that a good case?

[reef cedar]

I will have to say I am primarily worried about the CPU, Nvidia GPU and Motherboard that will accommodate a Live-streaming PC.

[heavy atlas]

me personally i would never let my cat do that

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hx32zf

does anyone know a cheaper gpu for that build that will run good?

like a geforce rtx 3050

[cyan ravine]

How much do you want to spend on the gpu?

[heavy atlas]

under 700😭

[cyan ravine]

Did we make you this build? Is that the exact psu?

Or is it the gold c750

@heavy atlas have you finished this build or are you just starting to buy parts

[heavy atlas]

i have the cpu motherboard ram and cpu cooler

[cyan ravine]

Oof ok

Let me see what I can do

You can return the cooler btw

You don't need it

[heavy atlas]

why

[cyan ravine]

The stock cooler is fine as it is

Like, pretty good actually

[heavy atlas]

what else is bad with the build?

[cyan ravine]

Can you take back the board and cpu too?

The psu also needs a change

I can gain you about $200

And you lose 0% performance

[heavy atlas]

no

i’ve had them for a year

[little osprey]

Bro really said can you return the whole pc

[heavy atlas]

😹

[cyan ravine]

Well I don't know how far into the build he is

Lol

[heavy atlas]

i only have the motherboard cpu and ram

[cyan ravine]

Well ok so just the psu and gpu really I would change then

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tsbkcf/bitfenix-formula-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-bp-fm750ulag-7r
https://sellout.woot.com/offers/aorus-rtx-3080-graphics-card?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_8_6

Grab these two instead

Woot is an amazon site

[heavy atlas]

can you put it into my pc build list ? because idk how to

[cyan ravine]

I can't put the gpu in

Only the psu

[heavy atlas]

oh ok

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BDmgyK

I've also marked what's purchased so it doesn't confuse the others if you have more questions

[heavy atlas]

ok tysm

wait how much is that gpu?

[cyan ravine]

$600

Don't hesitate on it

Woot is very good for cheap deals

[fossil cedar]

oh yeah theres no point spending nearly that much for just live streaming a camera

[cyan ravine]

||I'd spend that much to stream u uwu||

[fossil cedar]

something like this is honestly perfectly fine for 4k streaming https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n7dmpH

[analog pulsar]

yes there is smh

camrea is very powerful haha

[reef cedar]

What about video editing? I will be using something like OBS Studio to stream to FB. The OBS Studio would work far better with a good Nvidia GPU that accepts offloading from the CPU in OBS Studio.

[tawny fiber]

why is the cheapest 6800xt worth like 900$ now

[cyan ravine]

After black friday sales they never really came back down

3080's as well

That's why the woot deal is so good rn

[tawny fiber]

soo whats the best build for 1200$ now

gpu highest priority ofc

[cyan ravine]

Also fwiw they do have cheaper options but they aren't appearing on pcpp

You need to scan amazon for them

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YNFGY9

Then this gpu

https://sellout.woot.com/offers/aorus-rtx-3080-graphics-card?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_8_6

If you want it to be under 1200 you can change the mobo to be a bit more barebones

[fossil cedar]

would still use that

[reef cedar]

Thank you both Patokav and Felix. I will start communicating this to the Church. I am glad you both suggest the RTX 3080 as I know it will accept the NVENC from OBS Studio. If you think of anything else please let me know.

[analog pulsar]

It says sold out for me

[reef cedar]

I see, I need something that is not sold out.

[cyan ravine]

Rip

[fossil cedar]

i would only go with a 3050 just for NVENC, 3080 wont be any better at streaming a camera than a 3050

felix was talking to someone esle

[edgy hazel]

Is anyone avail to recommend which build is a better gaming pc? It's for my 11yr old son. His first and he wants to build it.

[fossil cedar]

whats the budget and country?

[edgy hazel]

US

and i don't really have a set budget

i have 2 different builds

https://secure.newegg.com/shop/cart

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zynYBj#compatibility_notes

[mossy venture]

are you gaming?

[edgy hazel]

yes

[cyan ravine]

Do you want him to have like, really good? Or just good enough?

[edgy hazel]

Well i would think the better of the lot as long as the price isn't crazy

[cyan ravine]

Where would you say the price gets crazy?

1400?

1000?

600?

[edgy hazel]

2000

[cyan ravine]

Ok

[edgy hazel]

but if the price get that high i would expect to perform well

[mossy venture]

Something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hJhgyK '

could get a better cpu if you want to

[edgy hazel]

what would be better?

[cyan ravine]

Like this would be a better cpu
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YXjpLs

[mossy venture]

12400f really isn't much better

I'd go for 12600k or 13600k

[cyan ravine]

It's cheaper tho

I only said it cos I finished the list just after

Nice to see 6900XT back at 700

[mossy venture]

i included a 2tb ssd since they originally had one in their list

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vpf9Y9 could do this

[fossil cedar]

Id do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CR27Fg

[cyan ravine]

Pro RS has a bios flash and has a good vrm

[fossil cedar]

Actually I'd do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q86R9r

[cyan ravine]

Much better

[mossy venture]

yeah didn't see that mobo rpice

that's a nice deal

[fossil cedar]

Yeah didn't realise it has flashback

[reef cedar]

Felix, I need the NVENC of an Nvidia card to work with the Video in OBS Studio so I can save the CPU to run OBS Studio and FB at the same time.

[cyan ravine]

Funny enough, a lot of asrocks do

Remember that

I learnt that not too long ago lol

[fossil cedar]

Steel legend doesn't iirc

[cyan ravine]

No it doesn't

[fossil cedar]

Lol that makes no sense

[cyan ravine]

But more than you'd expect asrocks have them

[edgy hazel]

Ok so the only other thing i would have to get is the OS correct?

[fossil cedar]

As i mentioned previously the 3050 and 12100f build is plenty for live streaming a camera

[cyan ravine]

Asrock has a lot more than 2 boards

[edgy hazel]

Windows 11 is ok

??

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but windows is free to install you don't need to activate it

Windows 11 yes

[viscid tapir]

Hi guy's

[fossil cedar]

Ik but steel legend is more premium board

[viscid tapir]

Can anyone help me to build pc

I got all the parts

[cyan ravine]

@reef cedar what Pato said

[cyan ravine]

Z spec is sufficient even at the ground

[reef cedar]

What board do you suggest for multiple mic inputs to a PC for livestreaming?

[fossil cedar]

Watch the video in the pins it should answer most the questions you have

[fossil cedar]

The one i put in the list for you

[fossil cedar]

Wdym?

[edgy hazel]

It's free off of Microsofts website?

[fossil cedar]

Yes

Search windows media creation tool

[viscid tapir]

Any inhome build can i get..
?

[cyan ravine]

For a 13600K I wouldn't even think twice, all z690/z790 is pretty sufficient

Only ITX you would worry a bit about pch heat

[fossil cedar]

Oh yeah ye i mean in terms of quality tho steel legend is higher end board but has no flash it makes no sense

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2PYmP6/asrock-z690m-itxax-mini-itx-lga1700-motherboard-z690m-itxax
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xwjBD3/asrock-z690-phantom-gaming-4d5-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-phantom-gaming-4d5
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GH7YJ/asrock-z690-phantom-gaming-4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-phantom-gaming-4
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kYwypg/asrock-z690-pg-riptide-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-pg-riptide

[cyan ravine]

Oh, yeah true that

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162061
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162037

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mcmmP6/asrock-z690-extreme-wifi-6e-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-extreme-wifi-6e
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qtqPxr/asrock-z690-taichi-razer-edition-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-taichi-razer-edition
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rKGbt6/asrock-z690-pg-velocita-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-pg-velocita
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wRddnQ/asrock-z690-steel-legendd5-atx-lga1700-motherboard-z690-steel-legendd5

only two boards so far without bios flash

[fossil cedar]

Oh yes razer mobo

[cyan ravine]

Actually even the ddr4 steel legend z690 has it

For Z790 this is probably the same story with all of these

Just showing how many asrock boards have bios flash

LOL

So for b660 spec they seem to have the option to fuse it on for some boards but they leave it off

B660M pro rs vs b660 pro rs for example

B660 pro rs seems to be the only board with it...?

Oh no b660m steel legend has one @fossil cedar

But not b660??

Oh wait no they both do

Hi

Is it that good?

Lolol

I already do

[fossil cedar]

Bruh

[cyan ravine]

[fossil cedar]

Assrock monents

[cyan ravine]

Oops

Asrock kinda slapping for value rn

[fossil cedar]

Indeed

They kinda needa to with their reputation tbf lol

[cyan ravine]

Well their z790 is supposedly good

Makes me curious cos they do good stuff when they actually try

Someone had the competency to say "Hey lets put flash on all our first gen boards"

[tawny fiber]

Hope the b760 hdv is a decent board under 100usd

[mossy venture]

i doubt it tbh

considering the b660 literally didn't have an nvme slot

[cyan ravine]

Yeah HDV is usually minimum of minimum spec

Maybe a different b760

At the very least, a b660m pro rs looks good rn

It's 100$

Has a good heatsink

Vrm isn't terrible

More compelling than that bazooka board tbh

Oh wait no that's one of the one's without flash my b

Nvm

Would still work with 12th gen tho

[empty pollen]

[tawny fiber]

Well good board b series boards under 100$ would be nice

[empty pollen]

hey you look good on that photo safi

[tawny fiber]

I would much rather save the cash saved for a better gpu like a 4090

[cyan ravine]

If it had flash I would literally only recommend that up to 13500

[empty pollen]

you need to save a lot ton of money for that...

[cyan ravine]

12700F I'd get a bit sketch

[tawny fiber]

Yes each bit counts and a motherboard is not very appealing to spend a ton on

[cyan ravine]

I mean, yes and no, you don't want to undercut it for a gpu upgrade either

[empty pollen]

that

[mossy venture]

didn't i make you a 5700x 4090 list under 2.5k?

[cyan ravine]

Minmax but within reason lol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DmdmpH

[empty pollen]

hey i want to see that, the 4090 alone could eat that whole budget 😛

[mossy venture]

just will have to find a 4090

[cyan ravine]

Don't even need the PA tbh

[mossy venture]

ye true

224xt would prolly do the job

[tawny fiber]

If you have contacts with the retailers in my country I can get 4090s for 1800$

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[tawny fiber]

Msrp models ofc

[cyan ravine]

I-

[empty pollen]

but you need the contacts first xD

[tawny fiber]

He bought 4090 with 5600x and seems to be doing fine

[cyan ravine]

That's a definite cpu bottleneck

Le oof

[empty pollen]

[mossy venture]

imagine they play at 1080p

[frigid night]

And only cyberpunk

[tawny fiber]

Well he is at 1440p fortunately

[cyan ravine]

That's still bad

[empty pollen]

x2

[cyan ravine]

My 13900K is bottlenecking at 1440p in some synthetics

My 13900K

Raster 1000% he's bottlenecked

[gentle pollen]

4090 is bottlenecks horribly @1440p.

[tawny fiber]

What's the best selling cpu currently in US?

[empty pollen]

5600 i guess

[cyan ravine]

In US? Probably the one he bought yeah

[tawny fiber]

Here majority seems to be buying 12400f and 5800x3ds

[empty pollen]

5600 is best seller in both egg and amazon

that could be a trend

[tawny fiber]

Didn't seby max out a 4090 with a 12100?

[cyan ravine]

Sips...maxed out a 3090 and a 12100f

[empty pollen]

hey we love you rommy, even with your shortcomings

[cyan ravine]

Seby did not

[empty pollen]

[cyan ravine]

Not to my knowledge

I'd be stunned as it's well documented that a 12100F struggles even with mid range gpus

[tawny fiber]

I mean in synthetics like ts

[cyan ravine]

Time spy bottlenecks with 13th gen on TS

I've literally experienced this first hand

[jagged ember]

No no safi is the expert on everything

You don't understand

You are the fool, felix

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

Lol I love you @jagged ember

[south cliff]

Well I put it together and nothing happened just the same thing and no fan spin

[analog pulsar]

[jagged ember]

Uh oh

[south cliff]

Gg rx6700xt

[jagged ember]

He's putting our relationship together

[frigid night]

Sounds like your cat messed up your gpu. Rip

[south cliff]

Well I don’t have a car now

Cat

[frigid night]

Did you at least stuff him and mount him on the wall?

[jagged ember]

Rip both gpu and cat

[south cliff]

Yea

[jagged ember]

That's what you call a lose lose

[south cliff]

He’s dinner

Could I try and reflow the solder

[jagged ember]

I'm not sure what the issue is

But I don't know if that's the solution to a cat destroying a gpu

[frigid night]

Cat puked IN his pc while it was on.

[jagged ember]

Oh yeah

Reflowing probably won't help that

[south cliff]

Not while it was on

[frigid night]

Oh nvm.

[jagged ember]

You can try, I guess unless you can rma it

[frigid night]

Cat puked IN his pc. THEN he turned it on.

😛

[south cliff]

Yeah I’m dumb

And then im dumb again and opened it

[jagged ember]

If you have no way to rma it why not put it in the oven

[south cliff]

-400

[jagged ember]

Taking all the melty bits off

Obviously

You don't want to lose your oven too

[south cliff]

I screwed the white sticker

Because I forgot

That it was the rma sticker

[weary galleon]

Stickers don't necessarily void warranty even if they say they do

Depends on where you are

[jagged ember]

Can still try

For the hell of it

Maybe it'll go through anyway

[south cliff]

Yeah hopefully I still got the box to

[weary galleon]

Then again I don't think "cat puked into my PC" will count as a valid reason to cc laik warranty or rma

[jagged ember]

"it just doesn't work"

"Not sure what happened"

[south cliff]

W

[weary galleon]

Yeah I guess

[south cliff]

It just shut off

[jagged ember]

Literally tell them nothing lol

[south cliff]

Trust me I won’t

[jagged ember]

"why's there bits of cat puke on here?"

"look, I dunno it just doesn't work"

[south cliff]

I made sure there wasn’t

Lol

[placid trellis]

Hi all, anyone do a 4090 build?
Or know of a link?
Concerned about compatibility for the order. Thnx

Haha

[mossy venture]

making a list, or pre built?

[frigid night]

Never fear, for Bacca is here!

[placid trellis]

Great question.
Either I guess

[mossy venture]

both it is

do you care about looks?

do you need wifi?

what size tower would you prefer?

and what is the budget?

[cyan ravine]

What are you using it for?

[frigid night]

I make him feel special. Don't worry.

[placid trellis]

Happy to set up a chat
Yes to it all @wooden rock

[mossy venture]

uhh

you answered yes to three multiple choice questions

what type of look would you like, black with rgb?

[placid trellis]

Video editing & hopefully blender

[mossy venture]

white with rgb?

[cyan ravine]

Ah ok, so valid use case

[placid trellis]

Please 👍

[cyan ravine]

He need the big bucks

[frigid night]

For sure. All white build.

[mossy venture]

what is the most you would want to spend on just the tower

[frigid night]

That's the only way

[mossy venture]

and how big do you want it

[frigid night]

Really big.

[placid trellis]

4K -5k

[frigid night]

Ok I'm going back to bed. Sorry giys

[cyan ravine]

Ur good

[placid trellis]

Yeah big but not too crazy

[cyan ravine]

Lolol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y3bhLs

I'd wait to look at felixs

that was thrown together quickly

[cyan ravine]

I wasn't making one

[placid trellis]

Dig
So fits in mid case?

[cyan ravine]

LOL

[mossy venture]

oh lmao

[tawny fiber]

iirc the g360a can fit a 4090 if he wants smaller case

[mossy venture]

then check mine out

see if there's anything you can improve on if you feel like it

[cyan ravine]

Do ddr4 it doesn't really help for his use case with ddr5

[mossy venture]

blender and video editing benefits from higher bandwidth, no?

[cyan ravine]

Does it?

I thought it was specific scenarios

[mossy venture]

unless im getting it confused with music production

[cyan ravine]

I know gen 4 helps a lot

[placid trellis]

Yeah wanted ddr5 I think haha

[mossy venture]

here's a bit cheaper A tier psu https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qrVczf

[cyan ravine]

Well we can pick cheaper ddr5 at least

[mossy venture]

didn't realize fsp was A tier

It's about an extra $65 to go from 6000c36 to 6400c32

[placid trellis]

How about i9? Thnx

[cyan ravine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Zq2WGX/patriot-signature-line-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-4800-cl40-memory-psd532g4800k

Hynix m

[mossy venture]

Not sure they'd want to do ram tuning

[cyan ravine]

You can just set the faster profile tho

Save 100$ for 5 minutes of bios time

[placid trellis]

Thnx for info
Yes if there’s a YouTube vid haha

[jagged ember]

It's easy to learn

[cyan ravine]

Hynix doesn't really have scaling tho below like 6600 so I wouldn't worry too much about xmp binning

[jagged ember]

The hard thing is perfecting your timing

[elfin flame]

Also, not sure how reliable this is:

https://www.cgdirector.com/ddr4-vs-ddr5/

[jagged ember]

That takes you way too long for it to be worth to average consumer

Hours upon hours of adjusting, testing and readjusting

If you want to do that, then tune your ram

Otherwise, xmp

[south cliff]

Ok I put I don’t know what happened it just shut off and wouldn’t turn back on and I have tried everything I could

[cyan ravine]

Hmm ok so it does help

[south cliff]

This should be good

[cyan ravine]

But not by much

[placid trellis]

Says worth it for premiere 👍

[cyan ravine]

Yeah but not by a lot

That said that's a micron kit

So it's probably worth going with the 4800 kit and setting it to 6200

I do agree with rommy tho, better being safe than sorry

[placid trellis]

I can do that with ddr5? Thnx

[cyan ravine]

I'd do this instead with 64gb
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qp2VPX

[empty pollen]

just cope with the loss and take your cat to the vet... the puke should be your first priority D<

[placid trellis]

@cyan ravine So no on the ddr5? To much hassle?

[cyan ravine]

I'm agreeing with rommy to stick with something reliable

Also for a production build you kinda want the ram

64gb for less than 32gb is worth doing

The cut burning?

[empty pollen]

the pain will make you stronger... and wiser

[placid trellis]

Sorry if somebody already mentioned, but does the 4090 fit in a mid case? Should I just go with a bigger one because of cable issues? Thnx

[cyan ravine]

If you have trouble fitting it in that case, you can get a vertical mount

Just note when you install this card, no matter what cable you use

plug it all the way in

Make double sure of this

[placid trellis]

Right!

[cyan ravine]

One sec I'll get you a vert mount

[placid trellis]

because if it fits in a mid case, then I can use the one that I currently have. Yeah vert Mount might be the way

[cyan ravine]

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/accessories/vertical-gpu-holder-kit-v3/

New one that fits 3 slot cards and is less instrusive on the pcie slots

So you could put something on the bottom slot of the mobo it sounds like

[placid trellis]

Interesting

[cyan ravine]

If you have trouble booting with this you'll need to install the gpu without the riser first, then set your first pcie slot to gen 4

Then put the riser back in

[placid trellis]

Hear ya

[cyan ravine]

P500A is like, EATX size

I feel like it's gonna fit

But ye, that's an option if you need it

[placid trellis]

Thnx for the info.
Is Newegg a good site for parts??

[cyan ravine]

Use the list for all but the 4090

The list has links

[placid trellis]

Copy that!

[cyan ravine]

They won't all be in one place

[placid trellis]

Hear ya

[cyan ravine]

I would also encourage you to look up a custom 4090 cable adapter

They're a good bit better quality than the stock and they fit cases better

Mod diy/cablemod are two that'll fit your use case

[placid trellis]

Hear ya. I will keep an eye out. I’ve seen mention in the articles

[cyan ravine]

[placid trellis]

Felix, where are u based? I’m by San Francisco

[cyan ravine]

Australia

Swim on over I'll have the bbq ready

[placid trellis]

Oh nice!

[cyan ravine]

[placid trellis]

I met a lot of Aussies in Europe and South America

I think one friend is in Melbourne

[cyan ravine]

Yeah we get lost pretty easily

[tawny fiber]

this seems it will be useful for case clearance

[cyan ravine]

I'm waiting for reviews of those

Too many times those 180 adapters of the past have burned

[tawny fiber]

ye

[cyan ravine]

So I'm waiting until well after they're out

[tawny fiber]

what you got now?

just using the adapter?

[cyan ravine]

I'm using the cablemod 3 to 1 adapter

Ye

180 curve 48mm from the plug

[tawny fiber]

oh this?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

It's extremely stiff

So the curve hasn't moved

Mines the all black version

[leaden mauve]

why did i think that cable was an antenna

[gentle pollen]

Because it secretly is lmao.

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/surprise-shocked-driving-gif-13843650

[placid trellis]

Thnx again Felix Bacca & all. Happy to report back haha

[cyan ravine]

Np

[placid trellis]

🌟

[cyan ravine]

Eh

Bandage it and swab it with iodine

[jagged hill]

what do you think of my monitor

[analog pulsar]

@cyan ravine you there? I wanna tell you something

[severe matrix]

when buying from eBay auctions, is it possible to snipe items at the very last second? Or do peoples' automatic bidding still work even at that moment

cause i would think that there would be a slight delay with automatic bidding, allowing manual bidding to have an advantage

[woven horizon]

Just saw this gem on ebay

[leaden mauve]

lol dual-socket LGA2011 chinese board

[woven horizon]

I have personally but if their max bid was high enough no dice, bid with 30 seconds+ left

[leaden mauve]

no thats lga2011-3 my bad

[woven horizon]

e5-2699 v3

[severe matrix]

wait so the times when u beat their automatic bids, was it because you bid higher than their max bid? or was it that you were fast enough

[woven horizon]

I beat their max bid

thats how it works

[severe matrix]

ah ok

so with 30+ secs left, you keep on bidding in increments until u finally beat their max automatic bid right

[woven horizon]

Yeah but dont overpay and pay attention to shipping cost

[severe matrix]

ok ty

[leaden mauve]

you bought it?

[woven horizon]

Oh no. I wouldnt touch it, I was replying to Xzereath

[analog pulsar]

Ahhh

I can't get the freaking fans on the aio

If left with that little piece to go into this and it won't go in

Is that even enough screw

[woven horizon]

You might get 2 threads on that. It doesnt look promising.

[analog pulsar]

What

No it worked last time with 1

@woven horizon do fans go on outside or inside I can make this very simple if I just put fans inside

See the fans went on the outside before

[woven horizon]

My fans are inside exhausting up top.

[analog pulsar]

Well yea ik that mine where same way but with front mounting you have 2 options to pick

[woven horizon]

What case?

[analog pulsar]

O11

But case I have rn is Focus 2

[woven horizon]

I think the fans need to be in front of rad but in the case

if that makes sense.

[analog pulsar]

Yea I'm trying that but they arnt screwing in

[woven horizon]

So it needs to be from back to front. Rad/fan/case/screw. Not rad/case/fan/screw

[analog pulsar]

What

[woven horizon]

lol

[analog pulsar]

Oh

Um

[woven horizon]

Rad and fan together, against the case, screw against the case

[analog pulsar]

Well this is from rad-case-fan-screw

[woven horizon]

hm maybe the threads are boogered

[analog pulsar]

Yea but doing that 1. Limits my gpu space available

And 2. My front case has space for fans

[analog pulsar]

Idk I'll get some help tomorrow

[analog pulsar]

But also screws go in without fan in esy

I just think screw might be 2 short

[desert gulch]

I literally thought whoever was in here was just talking to themselves 💀

Same color, generally same name ish, hella similar pfp

[weary galleon]

same 💀 I was scrolling down past all them like "uhh..."

[honest timber]

3080 TI vs 6950xt? for gaming for games like tarkov

[obsidian wigeon]

would get neither of those and go for 7900XTX that's coming soon

[honest timber]

Well. 6950xt is going for 800 and a 7900XTX is 1000, and that’s out of my budget

[obsidian wigeon]

I kinda assumed you had the budget since 3080ti are hella overpriced atm

Then I would say go for the 6950xt

[honest timber]

Ok thanks!

[knotty grotto]

Hey all! Looking to get/build a PC that will be mainly for photo editing but also gaming. Looking to play some new gen and next gen games that will mostly be NON-FPS' and hoping the computer will be considered good for years to come. This seem like a good way to go?

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/yCWG3C/magnificent-amd-am5-gamingstreaming-build

[gentle pollen]

Not going to buy it so it's just out of curiosity, but if you guys were building a extreme gaming server what parts would you pick? I am curious to see it. Uhh to keep it a reasonable level of extreme let's set the budget to $4000.

[knotty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/stimmy-whatmoney-rich-stonecoldsteveaustin-moneybags-gif-20766215

[obsidian wigeon]

Being fully honest here, that build has many glaring issues

I would instead swap platform for Intel, since 13600K outperforms the 7600X in every single benchmarks and games imaginable

Lemme uh, come up with a quick list real quick

[cyan ravine]

[fossil cedar]

Do this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q86R9r

@knotty grotto

[cyan ravine]

AM5 motherboard price is gross so AM5 is out vs 13th/12th, drp4 cooler is good but terribly expensive, ram is terrible samsung when cheaper hynix exists, the case price is terrible

[fossil cedar]

Storage is overpriced and 1000w psu isn't needed

[cyan ravine]

The storage gpu and psu are the only one's I agree with and even then the SSD isn't amazing

True, 1000W is also overkill

It's a good unit tho

[fossil cedar]

Honestly compared to the nv2 for double capacity and 20$ more it's a pretty terrible price

[cyan ravine]

Ye

It be gen 4 tho

[fossil cedar]

So is nv2

Nv2 is a little sleeper drive

[cyan ravine]

[fossil cedar]

It's speeed

[cyan ravine]

I am a learning

[fossil cedar]

@cyan ravine https://www.techpowerup.com/review/kingston-nv2-1-tb-m-2-nvme-ssd/4.html

Literally the best rand drive tpu has reviewed

[cyan ravine]

IT'S FASTER THAN P41?

[fossil cedar]

In some cases yeah

[cyan ravine]

Omg for the money that's stupid good

[fossil cedar]

I told you it's a sleeper

[cyan ravine]

I thought it was like some Nv1 bleh thing but decent

DA HECC

IT'S THE SAME PRICE HERE

[obsidian wigeon]

jesus

okie pato beaten me there lmao

but seriously? 2tb for 109?

that's nuts

[cyan ravine]

I'm legit about to buy 1 or 2

[obsidian wigeon]

kingston really being the king of price/perf there

[cyan ravine]

It's 198 here for 2tb

Evo plus 2tb is 330

Can we just take a moment to realise how insane that is

[obsidian wigeon]

it is

still like almost half the price

and the evo plus is simply roasted

old ass expensive ssd smh

[cyan ravine]

Hey evo plus is good but not worth that much

Price hasn't moved for like 2 years here

[obsidian wigeon]

It's good but the price is oof

[cyan ravine]

Wth the NV1 costs more

NV1 is 215 NV2 is 200

[fossil cedar]

Lol

No nv2 is like nv1 on steroids

And more steroids

[cyan ravine]

I'm legit about to buy at least one

Shuffle my storage around then be free of my HDD's

[fossil cedar]

Full ssd gang

I'm feeling felix buying addiction

[cyan ravine]

Will turn the rest of my HDD's into NAS storage then

[fossil cedar]

The rest? How much storage do you people need jeez

[cyan ravine]

Just drives I've accrued over time

[obsidian wigeon]

ssds just keeps getting cheaper

[cyan ravine]

I keep games, CAD files, assembly files, video recordings, all sorts of stuff on them

My laptop is the only system I have where I'm using under 1TB

[obsidian wigeon]

like it's so cheap that it's somewhat close to hdd in capacity/$ now

i still remember the days when 500 gigs ssd used to cost 100 lol

[cyan ravine]

Why did I buy MP33's when NV2's are 10% more

[obsidian wigeon]

underdog moment

comes when you least expect em

which is a thing people still thinks of amd to be

[cyan ravine]

I'd stick one of these in my laptop but iirc it's max gen 3

So pointless but still

[flint sapphire]

👀 what is this nv2

[cyan ravine]

A goat nvme

Gen 4

Almost as good as p41

2tb for 109$

I need say no more

[flint sapphire]

how many can you buy at once

[cyan ravine]

2

[flint sapphire]

[cyan ravine]

2 and I won't have regrets

Why you want one?

[flint sapphire]

I kinda wanna buy 2 or more

[cyan ravine]

I physically will max out my storage with 2 more lol, any more and I'm gifting

[flint sapphire]

gifts all around for all the family

Stick one in a pack of gum (as a present)

[cyan ravine]

I could stick one in a build for a friend

Thinkies

Then give the SP A60 to my bro who wants more storage on his lappy

[runic hollow]

@desert sigil wth!!! 9 screens, how many pcs? What's in the server rack? Specs of everything?

[fossil cedar]

Probably can buy more than 2

[knotty grotto]

Why DDR4 and not DDR5?

[cyan ravine]

Ddr5 just isn't worth the platform change and price difference when you could put that instead into say, a better gpu for example

Say you instead put that into a 7900XT, you'd have a lot more power overall

You'd be talking in the range of double digit improvements versus single digit and I'd say that's being reserved about the actual performance gain from the new gpu imo

[analog pulsar]

@woven horizon bruh btw I got 1 screw in but rest no

[frigid night]

Looks like your rad needs to scooch to the left just a slight hair. Your case looks like it's blocking the threads ever so slightly.

[feral bobcat]

im looking for the best: 4k oled hdr g-sync monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

the best is actually qd-oled

[feral bobcat]

Is such a monitor made?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

there's already an alienware monitor with quantum dot led

[feral bobcat]

buts thats curved

[obsidian wigeon]

it's easily the best monitor there is right now

i mean you want the very best with hdr and g-sync

and i just gave you one

[feral bobcat]

thanks

any lg/samsung or asus models

[obsidian wigeon]

no asus so far, but there's msi

and they're flat, no curve

exactly what you're looking for

MPG321UR is the model name

[analog pulsar]

[feral bobcat]

its ips

[obsidian wigeon]

Um, make sure you're looking at the qd model

[feral bobcat]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cl6GFGlJl5p/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[obsidian wigeon]

Meh, that one is just plain old oled

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Anti-Glare-Optix-MPG321UR-QD/dp/B09GWC5YBM

[feral bobcat]

https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/

[obsidian wigeon]

This thing is available on amazon

oled has one weakness, and it's especially apparent on desktop use

which is burn-in

qd-oled has none of that, but all the benefits of oled

[feral bobcat]

The only problem that qd has is that the image quality is not as accurate as oled

i mean the panel technology

[obsidian wigeon]

you mean color?

[feral bobcat]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

Eh, it's no different than oled honestly

Difference is simply color calibration

[feral bobcat]

exactly

[obsidian wigeon]

That doesn't make it inferior tho

[feral bobcat]

how do you calib your hdr monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

You're gonna need a colorimeter to do so

[feral bobcat]

what about miniled

mled is something between oled and ips as far as i can remember

[obsidian wigeon]

It's not very much better than ips really

[forest leaf]

I need help!!! Hi guys, I wanna know about Newegg purchase so I’m about to buy rams and cpu. On both product I got option of 2 n 3 protection which they charge. Dose it important? And Also I live in Qatar would they be able to accept refund if there’s any problem with product??? Pls help thx

2 n 3 years*

U mean if I buy Samsung ssd and there’s problem with ssd and I have to go to Samsung branch?? Even I order from outside?

[obsidian wigeon]

Basically like that, yes

[forest leaf]

Will the accept?

[analog pulsar]

@frigid night even moved it still nothing so we are just putting fans inside case

Like this

[frigid night]

swap the fan around if you want it as intake.

[analog pulsar]

Yea

[analog pulsar]

Plus my pc sits like this at my desk would be nice to have the RGB in my case

[woven horizon]

https://youtu.be/4UFiG7CwpHk

[knotty grotto]

Incredibly new to building PC's and all that. There's a warning that says parts may be incompatible. What needs to be changed?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q86R9r

[mossy venture]

dw about it, it's an easy fix. You just have to update bios

[upper tusk]

I already built pc except for new gpu. Got 5600 cpu, 32 gig ram ddr4 3600 gf1 850w psu. Which should i get over next few days 6800xt or 6900xt

[empty pollen]

we already told you a lot of times pal e_e

6800xt is the better one price/performance, but if you still doubt on that and keep asking then just choose the one that makes you happy

[fossil cedar]

It's fine you just need to update bios through bios flashback which will take like 2 minutes and is explained how you do it in the motherboard manual

[fossil cedar]

Well if you go off current prices actually the cheapest 6800xt is 20$ more than the asrock oc formula 6900xt

[empty pollen]

thats why i hate tech market, prices are wild

yeah, both are ok, then he just need to choose the cheapest

[knotty grotto]

Which SSD is better? And how does this look?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xv2xd9

[mossy venture]

get the xs70 if you want a high end ssd

it's better than the 980 pro and cheaper

case is pretty mid especially for the price

[fossil cedar]

Nv2 beats the 980 pro in random which is most of day to day performance but 980 pro is priced terribly

[knotty grotto]

Good to know. Thanks!

As far as the case; I'm not looking for a fancy case. More than likely this will be parked behind my TV or stand and I'm looking for something with HDD bays and a decent amount of USB ports.

[mossy venture]

get smthn with a mesh front

[fossil cedar]

Solid front is gonna choke out your components

[knotty grotto]

any suggestions?

[empty pollen]

g360a or a ck560

[mossy venture]

how many hdd bays do you need?

[knotty grotto]

minimum of 2

[mossy venture]

g360a has 2 i believe

[knotty grotto]

Doing a lot of photo editing so I need some long term and high capacity storage

[mossy venture]

how much storage you need and how much do you want to spend?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZWzK8/teamgroup-mp34-4-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4004t0c101 cause there's fairly cheap 4tb ssds

or the mx500 for $238 in terms of sata ssds

though comparatively https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3cZFf7/seagate-ironwolf-pro-16-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st16000ne000

[knotty grotto]

Right now on my antiquated laptop I've used up about 6 TB of external

So more than that

[mossy venture]

well then you'd be more than fine with that one hdd, or you could get 2 4tb ssds

[knotty grotto]

Was planning on using the SSD for operating systems and some gaming. Maybe my thinking is flawed

[mossy venture]

no that's fine

was just mentioning some options

[knotty grotto]

I do appreciate that!

[mossy venture]

thje 16tb hdd would do you well then

[knotty grotto]

That 16tb might be good...

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/meshify/meshify-2-xl-dark-tempered-glass/dark-tempered-glass/

Hows this?

[mossy venture]

good case

just depends on price

[knotty grotto]

Kinda wanting avoid RGB cases

[mossy venture]

that's fine

this has 2 hdd bays as well https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NkK2FT/phanteks-eclipse-p500a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec500atg_bk01

[leaden mauve]

I love this case

Not enough people talk about it

[knotty grotto]

What would you say is its biggest downfall?

[leaden mauve]

I don't actually own one so I don't know all the little details

[knotty grotto]

lol gothca

[leaden mauve]

I've considered buying one many times but ended up not because I got a 900D for basically 20 bucks

[fossil cedar]

Meshify 2 xl is a really nice case

[knotty grotto]

Between that and the Eclipse?

[leaden mauve]