building-and-recc-chat

[torpid sorrel]

thats it

only 1

can i plug a 3 pin into a 4 pin connector?

ok

[ripe spear]

You mean for the fan header on your motherboard right for your fan not the molex?

[torpid sorrel]

like

on my case

it has 3 pin molexs

i only have 4

[upper tusk]

Which should i get 5700x 6800xt or 5600 6900xt

[stoic island]

What games and what resolution?

[upper tusk]

4k60 at medium to ultra settings lets say most demanding games like cyberpunk and ac valhalla god of war

Budget is around 1400 usd

I already own a 4k144 hz monitor last year

[stoic island]

Then you'll want the better GPU

[torpid sorrel]

im dumb but i have a friend thats really good with gpus

he says a good budget gpu is a red devil rx 6800 xt

[mossy venture]

I wouldnt call a $550+ and one of the current best gpus a budget gpu

[torpid sorrel]

fair

[mossy venture]

Are you making a whole new pc?

Or just upgrading one

@torpid sorrel

[torpid sorrel]

whole new

currently figuring out stupid fan headers

[mossy venture]

One sec

Total budget?

[low drum]

What’s people’s thoughts about bitspower titan 2.0?

[torpid sorrel]

is the 3 pin or 4 pin connecter on fans the power or the rgb?

pls

i need to know rn

[empty pollen]

usually the cables are labeled

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[weak grail]

Yeah. Maybe I can convince my wife to get me one for Christmas

Not in a super rush, I do want instant gratification. But I built my pc at the height of the price hikes instead of listening to my wife and waiting lol

[mossy venture]

If it makes you feel better, I basically paid $950 for a 3060 ti

[weak grail]

🤣

Ouch. I paid I think $800 for my 3070

[mossy venture]

Sure it doesn't have any drop damage?

Wonder if they've ever done an egg drop type challenge but instead of eggs they used gpus

[weak grail]

lol no. I bought it new at MicroCenter. My wife told me yesterday that if I would’ve just waited like she said, she would’ve rather spent the money to get something I wouldn’t need to upgrade. Womp womp womp

[weary galleon]

...and I thought my $680 3060ti was bad

Though I did later get my (much cheaper) EVGA queue card and sold the MSI for only a slight loss

$950 ain't the MSRP of any card is it?

Did you buy from a scalper

[torpid sorrel]

Guys

I finished

But there is a white light on the mobo

For vga

Or gpu

I can't put it any further bc of the fan on the mobo

[obsidian wigeon]

Have you connected gpu power connectors correctly?

[torpid sorrel]

yes

there is a fan blocking it

im scared

[obsidian wigeon]

um

Take a pic of the pc

I need it to see a better image

[torpid sorrel]

powercolor red devil rx 6800 xt and asus x570 pro prime

[obsidian wigeon]

I need a pic, not specs

I don't quite understand what you meant by a fan is blocking the gpu

[torpid sorrel]

k

[obsidian wigeon]

Oh mobo chipset heatsink

nah that's fine

[torpid sorrel]

But no click

And white light on vga

[obsidian wigeon]

Move it to lower slot on the board if possible

Yeah, no click means it's not fully seated

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

1 sec

still no click

[torpid sorrel]

can i just remove the cover

[obsidian wigeon]

Nah

It'll make the chipset overheat

[torpid sorrel]

this is really stressing me out

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm

[torpid sorrel]

then how do i get it in

[obsidian wigeon]

Okay release the tab on pcie slot first

If you didn't

Then plug the gpu straight in

[torpid sorrel]

i did

[obsidian wigeon]

Then you didn't do it right

[torpid sorrel]

should i just try pushing hard

[obsidian wigeon]

Pushing hard is fine for the tab, sometimes it's hard to do so

[torpid sorrel]

also i dont have a monitor connected

could that be it

[obsidian wigeon]

But the gpu you just correctly line it up straight down into the slot, press it in until it clicks

Yeah, it can be

I would make sure the gpu clicks in place first tho, before trying monitor

[torpid sorrel]

the gpu also like touches the tab

[obsidian wigeon]

that's fine

just make sure you don't like slot the gpu in angled

it won't click that way

[torpid sorrel]

ok

should i try again top slot

[obsidian wigeon]

if you want to

[torpid sorrel]

ok ill try it

why is the gpu down on 1 side

still shows white

@obsidian wigeon

someone

help

[obsidian wigeon]

I guess this board wants monitor connected

[torpid sorrel]

What if gpu is damaged now

[obsidian wigeon]

You did good on the gpu, but some mobos needs monitor to even post

Nah, it's very unlikely

[torpid sorrel]

I've slotted it out 3 times

[obsidian wigeon]

Does the gpu's fans spin?

[torpid sorrel]

How could it get damaged?

Yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

Probably working then

Wait until you have a monitor to connect the gpu to

[torpid sorrel]

But the fans only start when I connect the gpu cables

[obsidian wigeon]

That's expected

[torpid sorrel]

I have a windows laptop

But no hdmi

I have a portable monitor

But it doesn't work

Also how do I fix gpu sag

[potent portal]

Lego tower

[torpid sorrel]

Actually

[obsidian wigeon]

You have to get a bracket or that for cheap route lmao

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

[potent portal]

Yes actually lol, cheap but effective solution if you have Lego lying around

Anything rigid that you can make into a custom size will work

[torpid sorrel]

On the portable monitor

It says

Your device does not support dt alt mode

1 sec brb

so what would happen if my gpu was broke

[obsidian wigeon]

can't verify without a monitor

one that's actually taking the gpu output

[potent portal]

Was this error "DP alt mode" instead of DT?

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[torpid sorrel]

yes

it was dp

[potent portal]

Were you connecting to it by USB C?

[torpid sorrel]

yeah

only thing i can connect the portable monitor to

[potent portal]

Ok that screen won't work without a proper thunderbolt port then

[torpid sorrel]

ok

so how can i test it

[potent portal]

You'll need a proper monitor

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[potent portal]

Or a TV for that matter

[torpid sorrel]

i have a tv

[potent portal]

Plug in HDMI to that

[torpid sorrel]

ok

lemem go do that brb

[ornate condor]

looks like this is gonna be my final build hhttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/x9gZv3 is everything alright ?

[potent portal]

jfc those drives

[ornate condor]

got them already lol

got 13900k as well

[potent portal]

They're half the cost of the whole thing lol

[ornate condor]

need new mobo , aio and ram kit

theres not much choice on mobo so that msi mobo is almost only choice

[potent portal]

Yeah boards with 4x 4.0 M.2 are limited

[ornate condor]

two main question . Galahad or LS720 and 450$ 6000mhz kit or 550$ 6400mhz kit

[torpid sorrel]

20

[potent portal]

For a white build I'd go galahad

[ornate condor]

while my strix z690 have gen5 ssd support lol

[ornate condor]

probably not fujlly white more like metallic like msi shade

that msi mobo + 4090 surprim probably

or maybe white 7000series gpu

[potent portal]

Sure, on the top slot only, then the lower slots are probably 3.0

[high yew]

in need of a psu for a 12400f and a 3070 vision. i think 750w gold would be more than enough, what would a good but not break the bank 750w gold be?

[torpid sorrel]

alr back

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-legion-gx-gold-pro-sf-750p14xe-750w/p/1HU-024C-00032

[ornate condor]

so any fan kit that can match with galahad fans ?

[potent portal]

Gold is only an efficiency rating btw

[potent portal]

LL120 iirc

[modest niche]

Hey I'm new to pc gaming and building a pc

[high yew]

should have mentioned im in CAD, sorry lol

[weary galleon]

Hi new to PC gaming and building a PC, I'm Joe

[ornate condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z2JBW4 fixed I guess

[potent portal]

Yep that's good to mention lol
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/W4Tp99/gigabyte-ud750gm-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-gp-ud750gm

@ornate condor It's not the p-gm it's the B tier UD-GM

[ornate condor]

uh it was P-gm right ? newegg sold it to me with bundle lol

[potent portal]

Yes P-GM was the bomb

[modest niche]

I don't understand any pc part or anything

[potent portal]

The literal bomb lol

[ornate condor]

luckily people warned me here about it lol I was about to use it for 3070 vision that I bought lol

[potent portal]

Do you want to try your hand at learning how to build one, or would you like a link to a prebuilt one?

[modest niche]

I like to learn how to build one

[ornate condor]

alright . this kit https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb/p/N82E16820374415 or this kit https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb/p/N82E16820374431

[potent portal]

Ok, let's start with a parts list. Budget and country? Do you need peripherals like keyboard, mouse, monitor?

[ornate condor]

or anyh better one ?

[modest niche]

I got keyboard and mouse and monitor and my budget is 1500 to 2500 and in USA I want to be able to stream on it

[ornate condor]

13600k gang

[potent portal]

Alright this is a top tier system then. Here's an example build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cswDTn

There's the ventus 12gb for $30 more 💀

But the 12gb gaming trio is $810 rn

[modest niche]

Thank you for helping me out @potent portal

[celest horizon]

5600cl36

[fossil cedar]

smh fal for 50$ more you can get some lovely 6200mhz ram 😍

[potent portal]

Eh not really worth it

Still better than the 4800 c40 kits

[fossil cedar]

I guess yeah most people would be gpu bottlenecked i suppose it depends what you wanna play with it

[upper tusk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gThYqm

What u think? The sata ssd and hdd and reformatted from current pc and cooler is just a stand in for 214xt and case isnt on their list

[fossil cedar]

The ram and motherboard are a bit more expensive for no reason, you using the cooler etc from your last build?

Also what's the case?

[upper tusk]

Gamemax aero

How much should i spend on ddr4 ram i want 32 gigs? As well as motherboard

Motherboard dont need wifi i could just pull current wifi pci card from current pc

[mossy venture]

If you don't already own the heatsink, just get the 214xt. If you plan to oc, peerless assassin 120 se

Mobo, b550m-vc wifi or pro vdh wifi

There's also same specced ram for cheaper from silicon power

[mossy venture]

Oh just saw what you said

Why's it a stand in? 214xt is on pcpartpicker

[upper tusk]

I probably miss that

[upper tusk]

I want a atx board first build my brother and i both arent that familiar with microatx boards

[little osprey]

Are regular ATX boards even that common?

[upper tusk]

My bro, his friends and my friends all use g skill ram and recommend it 2 me

[fossil cedar]

They're both the same but it's matx have a few less pcie slots maybe less m.2 slots too

If you're familiar with atx you're familiar with matx

[fossil cedar]

Ye

[fossil cedar]

Ram is ram just get the cheapest 3200mhz cl16 kit or 3600cl18 etc

[analog hearth]

G.Skill is basically just guaranteed B-Die memory, which is the best kind of memory for over clocking atm (iirc)
ignore me lolll 💀

[fossil cedar]

That's completely wrong

No brand is guaranteed b die

[analog hearth]

ah please correct me

[little osprey]

Huh, I TBH just thought people preferred ITX and Micro-ATX

[fossil cedar]

Only certain speeds are guaranteed b die e.g. 3200mhz cl14, 3600mhz cl16 (when timings are 16-16-16-36) or under cl16, 4000mhz cl16

[analog hearth]

I think it’s more of an attraction to go towards SFF. but bigger PCs are the norm

[fossil cedar]

Micro atx is usually cheaper for the cheaper boards hence better value

Most people who use matx boards put them in atx cases because matx board was the better value

[analog hearth]

ah. so just pay attention to speeds when buying?

I actually just got a set of memory from G.Skill. I forgot the timings but they’re 3600MHz sticks

[fossil cedar]

Yeah 99.99% of the population don't want to OC their ram

It's a pain

[little osprey]

Water cooled RAM 😎

[fossil cedar]

And way more expensive

[analog hearth]

I might get into OC’ing my RX 5700, now that I have a tertiary system

[little osprey]

I just got told the PC specs in my bio are mid 😭

[fossil cedar]

Gpu oc is the most beneficial and easy for most people

[frank stirrup]

well

[fossil cedar]

So?

[frank stirrup]

they kinda are now

[little osprey]

It's my first build, I really can't be too picky

[cyan ravine]

Dude you got complimented

[fossil cedar]

Nothing wrong with that tho^

[frank stirrup]

yep

its ur pc

[cyan ravine]

Who called your i3 mid cos I think I could be friends with that guy

[analog hearth]

they probably just see “i3” and “2060” lmao. nothing really wrong with that

[cyan ravine]

Lmao

[frank stirrup]

if its good enough for you, it shouldnt matter what others say

[little osprey]

I dunno, I feel like custom PC's fall into the categories of things that are like a status symbol

[cyan ravine]

Computer be boopin

[little osprey]

Yeah, War Thunder is the most demanding game I might play and I get well for 60 FPS

[analog hearth]

I have a 3700X in my main and I’m chilling with it. iirc, the 12100F performs the same as my 8c16t 3700X lolll

[fossil cedar]

Eh i mean anything that has premium options is like that

[little osprey]

So I'm more than plenty happy with my build

[cyan ravine]

A custom pc is a status symbol because you can make what you want out of it

[fossil cedar]

In most games probably better

[frank stirrup]

then it doesnt matter what others think

[cyan ravine]

If it works for you, it's your symbol

Your weapon

[fossil cedar]

People my lambos but most people don't need more than a ford fiesta

[analog hearth]

it’s crazy how they’ve gotten 4 cores and 8(?) threads to perform so efficiently

[frank stirrup]

upgrading to the latest just because its the latest is how you waste money lol

[little osprey]

Yeah, I should've realized that before, thanks

[cyan ravine]

Such a european thing to say

Lololol

Fiestas are in your blood homie

[frank stirrup]

~~looking at you @cyan ravine 😛 ~~

[fossil cedar]

Not efficiency, 3700x would destroy it in multi threading, games are single threaded and 12100 has very nice ipc

[fossil cedar]

How so?

[cyan ravine]

Well see if I said that line I would say Commodore

[frank stirrup]

siestas in the fiestas dude

[cyan ravine]

And it would be australian af instead

[little osprey]

I feel like super sport cars are purely just expensive for looks and short term performance

[frank stirrup]

oi mate laddie

?

[cyan ravine]

Now use that perspective when you see an overkill pc and you'll realise it's not so bad lol

[analog hearth]

ah that makes sense

@fossil cedar super random but are manual transmissions more common than automatic transmissions over there in Europe?

[cyan ravine]

I'm also curious

[frank stirrup]

Hi also curious

[cyan ravine]

Hi rising

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-build-building-gif-13030996

[frank stirrup]

yes

i identify as appartment complex

[cyan ravine]

What happens if you oi mate streuth with an attack helicopter

[analog hearth]

I don’t think Pato liked that I asked him a non-tech question lol. he’s gone lol

[cyan ravine]

Probably went to go drive his Fiesta to work

[frank stirrup]

sorry i dont speak upside down

[analog hearth]

what does streuth mean?

[frank stirrup]

idk man

[cyan ravine]

Oh ya know

Streuth

[frank stirrup]

no we dont know

[cyan ravine]

She gone and chucked the bangers

[frank stirrup]

thats why we asked innit

[analog hearth]

lmao I don’t know

[cyan ravine]

STREUTH

STREUTH

[little osprey]

Will they ever make helicopters that fly upside down?

[frank stirrup]

what now

[cyan ravine]

STRUEETHH

[fossil cedar]

Very, automatic is only high end cars and costs extra

[frank stirrup]

normal helicopter in australia

[cyan ravine]

Streuth

[fossil cedar]

No i just don't sit staring at discord the whole time lol

[fossil cedar]

What now?

[frank stirrup]

how dare you have life

[fossil cedar]

Sorrry

🥴

[frank stirrup]

think he got smacked in the noggin a bit

ngl

[analog hearth]

ye that’s what I thought. us Americans are capitalized on automatic transmissions (especially Ford). we have a lot of garbage automatic transmissions here. but it’s “easier to drive” and now I’ve grown up without learning to drive a manual

[analog hearth]

calling me out :(

lol

[cyan ravine]

Any Australian can survive in the bush using only the word strueth and his wits

[frank stirrup]

india has mostly manual as well

like almost exclusively manual

[frank stirrup]

sorry for being not australian bro

[cyan ravine]

I read the manual before I build too

[analog hearth]

I think anywhere but (North?) America is primarily manual. and then obviously there are higher horsepower cars that make it too difficult to shift within a good time, which makes automatics better in that case (but still giving the manual mode for extra fun)

[fossil cedar]

Understandable

By a kangaroo?

[frank stirrup]

Yeah aussie hoppies

[fossil cedar]

Yeah automatic is easier to drive tbf but i think everyone should learn in a manual

[fossil cedar]

Ahh he got boing boinged

[cyan ravine]

SKIPPY

Fake Australians

[frank stirrup]

Oh no what gave it away? Was it pato saying hes irish and me saying im indian?

[cyan ravine]

You wouldn't know a strewth if it came up to bite ya

[frank stirrup]

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/strewth-bvm-blue-van-man-dave-strooth-gif-21008642

[fossil cedar]

Afaik yeah

[mossy venture]

Atx is only for an asthetic choice. It offers next to no benefit over matx, while costing a decent bit more. And as pato said, just get pretty much the cheapest 3200c16 or 3600c18 kit you can find aside from corsair

[fossil cedar]

Nah even corsair

[mossy venture]

Matx isn't even that much more compact anyways, atx just has more pcb at the bottom

[mossy venture]

Trying to make me vomit?

[frank stirrup]

I wouldnt say that, atx does have more pcie slots, which are very useful for some people, not just aesthetics

[fossil cedar]

A lil

[mossy venture]

Don't a good few matx mobos also have 2 slots?

[fossil cedar]

Basically useless to most users

[fossil cedar]

Yes but with gpus getting fatter...

[mossy venture]

Hell my itx board has pcie slots, in addition to the one my wifi card is in

[mossy venture]

Ah fair

[cyan ravine]

Guys guys guys

You need a compromise

[mossy venture]

Though almost no one that's gaming needs two gpus

[cyan ravine]

And that compromise, is beautiful

[mossy venture]

You?

[cyan ravine]

💀

[mossy venture]

I'm not a fan of the o11s

[cyan ravine]

Why have one when all 3 work

[mossy venture]

I think they're too wide

[cyan ravine]

And all 3 have benefits

[cyan ravine]

The wideness is growing on me tbh

[frank stirrup]

Yes but i wouldnt say atx is for aesthetics only ya kno

[cyan ravine]

Easy to work in

[fossil cedar]

Indeed

[frank stirrup]

As wide as @jagged ember

[fossil cedar]

Wifi card, m.2 adapter etc

[frank stirrup]

Ah ffs he changed nick

[fossil cedar]

Capture card for console streaming/recording

[mossy venture]

Yeah ig, but size shouldn't really be an issue for those things

[frank stirrup]

Pcie do be VeRY versatile

[mossy venture]

Even with a 4090 I doubt it'd cover the second slot

[fossil cedar]

It is, my 3070 gaming oc was 2.5 slots, means i had to take out wifi card

[cyan ravine]

Just get one of those pcie splitters and run everything at 1 lane each

Problem solved

[frank stirrup]

Perish

[mossy venture]

My 3060 ti which I believe is barely smaller doesn't cover my second slot on an itx board

[frank stirrup]

I might have done an o no

I undid my o no

We are good

[cyan ravine]

Well that was exciting

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

I almost rose from my chair

7/10 rotten tomatoes

[upper tusk]

How much smaller is matx vs atx?

[obsidian wigeon]

Case or?

Mobo size doesn't make a difference if you're putting matx mobo into atx case

[mossy venture]

Mobo

Theyre worried about working on an matx mobo because they think it'll be too small, as far as I can tell

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm

Yeah, matx boards aren't small if that's what they're asking

They're just not as tall

More of a square than rectangle

Well less wide but still, far from itx levels of small

[fossil cedar]

mobo is like 10? cm

[fossil cedar]

Micro atx does deviate a little bit but yeah close enough

[analog hearth]

I just got my first mITX board a couple days ago

it's tiny lmao

[analog hearth]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157962

just downsizing a build. and it'll be my third running build. so I don't need anything better than A520

it's in a Silverstone SG13. it's probably not coming out well lmfao

[ornate condor]

Mid tower gang

[analog hearth]

I'm building a console PC

it's gonna use Playnite to organize the games. it has a fullscreen mode and controller support

[weary galleon]

kinda an odd case cause it only supports up to 140mm rad

I think Linus used one for his home theater build though

[analog hearth]

I'm using an ATX power supply and a full-sized RX 5700 reference card

and also the stock AMD Wraith Stealth

gonna be a garbage build but I'll probably improve it later

[analog hearth]

lmfaoo good luck

[young sierra]

It ain't much, but it Posts.

[analog hearth]

ok

[frank stirrup]

Linux best

[earnest olive]

nah his linux is clearly loaded with bloatware

having colors is bloatware

[weary galleon]

Bro has letters instead of ones and zeroes? Cringe

[torpid sorrel]

can you install windows from a sd card?

or should i say microsd

it has more then 8 gb

nope

im that poor

noooooo it says usb or drive

i mean

disc or drive

if i install windows on a disc

and then plug in a cable that goes to a portable disc reader

could that work?

[fossil cedar]

Uhh yah should work

You install the installer on the external disk tho

[torpid sorrel]

ill just go to walmart rn and pick up a usb drive

and some zip ties for cable management

anything else i might need?

i need a response fast

bc im leaving rn

remember its walmart

its not all tech :/

so no fan hubs

or gpu raisers

@fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

uh yeah zip ties are a waste of money tho

[potent portal]

I just use the twist ties that come with everything

[weary galleon]

twist ties are great cause they're a lot easier to undo

Some things I do use zip ties for

more permanent cable routing

Mounting fans where they aren't exactly supposed to be mounted...

[paper summit]

Lmao yea.....

Why are so many cases tall but short in length lol

Like i dont want that goofy looking slender man ah case

I prefer a longer one

More simetrical

[weary galleon]

micro atx cases are usually closer to a square from the side view

[paper summit]

Idk what im on about im jus bored

Thas why i went with a case that i could mount a 360 on top

[potent portal]

A bunch of twisties come with the power supply too, one on every cable usually now that I think about it

[kindred pawn]

My buddy is tryna build his pc and we think this port for his motherboard is broken

Skip to like 17 secs

[empty pollen]

seems kinda ok

as long as the terminals make contact it will work

[kindred pawn]

It doesn't fit in tho

[empty pollen]

weird

seems the right size for the connector tho

same number of pins

[kindred pawn]

Nah I mean it goes in for a bit but not all the way

[torpid sorrel]

so i have a laptop

with most up to date windows 10

and i just go the usb drive

if i use media creation tool

and make a custom installation on the usb drive

will it erase my entire laptop?

i need to know rn

[potent portal]

It will if you tell it to

But if you just tell it to install over the current installation (upgrade install I believe it's referred to as) then it keeps your current files

[torpid sorrel]

well im trying to install it on a usb

bc i need it for my other pc that i just finished

[potent portal]

Creating the USB drive doesn't affect the current computer at all

[torpid sorrel]

ok

so if i do the like 8 gb thing

then it will work

bc i dont have a laptop

my friend does

[potent portal]

Yeah just tell it to create install media for another PC and point it to the USB drive

[torpid sorrel]

ok

ty

[torpid sorrel]

ok so big problem

i just plug hdmi into the i/o port for it

to the tv

and turned it on

and the fans turned on

but like 4 seconds

but then turned off

[obsidian wigeon]

that's normal

[obsidian wigeon]

does it display anything at all?

[torpid sorrel]

no

it says no signal

[obsidian wigeon]

hm

[torpid sorrel]

so you think my gpu is broke?

[obsidian wigeon]

Perhaps

Whelp time to do some rma

Is this gpu brand new?

[torpid sorrel]

its a red devil thoooooooo

yeah

also

[obsidian wigeon]

Where have you connected your monitor to? Just to make sure

[torpid sorrel]

only replacement policy

and im fine with that

but its on newegg

and they arent selling it anymore

so what would i do if i needed to return it

[obsidian wigeon]

You can still contact newegg about it

[torpid sorrel]

but they dont have any in stock

[obsidian wigeon]

That doesn't matter lol

Warranty still exists

[torpid sorrel]

i dont have a monitor

too poor

[cyan ravine]

Warranty stock is not the same as retail stock

[torpid sorrel]

i didnt buy the warranty

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

also no

[torpid sorrel]

the one from allstate

i didnt buy it

[obsidian wigeon]

warranty comes standard with any new product

like at least one year

[cyan ravine]

You still have a standard warranty

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[cyan ravine]

By law

[torpid sorrel]

ok

so lemme try it again

to connect through hdmi

to tv

would that work?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

make sure it's to the back of the gpu

not your motherboard

[torpid sorrel]

but shouldnt i install the drivers for the gpu before i do that

[cyan ravine]

You should

Lolololol

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

you install once it boots to os

it's not needed to get a display output

[torpid sorrel]

i dont have os installed

yet

[obsidian wigeon]

that's fine

[cyan ravine]

Can you try another screen

[torpid sorrel]

no

im poor

[obsidian wigeon]

they have no other screens

[torpid sorrel]

so i basically just built the system

and i can just plug in the gpu to the tv?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[torpid sorrel]

are you sure nothing will break

[cyan ravine]

1000% positive

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[torpid sorrel]

ok

doing it rn

OH SHIP

IT WORKED

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

omg im so happy

tysm

[obsidian wigeon]

you're welcome really

[cyan ravine]

[torpid sorrel]

so does that mean my gpu is fine?

not broke at all

[potent portal]

It's good enough to give a display, you can stress test it once you install and get into windows

[torpid sorrel]

ok

off to my friends house to steal his windows

[cyan ravine]

If you just finally got the pc running there's nothing yet known to say anything is wrong

[potent portal]

You can install windows without a license

[torpid sorrel]

but updates

[cyan ravine]

Winwhoas

[potent portal]

You still get them

You just can't customize the "personalization" menu and may get a watermark on the bottom right of the screen until you give it a license

[torpid sorrel]

i know

but also

1 more question

if i do that

[cyan ravine]

Can activate windows at any time

[torpid sorrel]

and then later get a windows 10 pro license

will it delete anything?

[cyan ravine]

Get telepathy'd

Kekw

[obsidian wigeon]

nope

[potent portal]

It'll automatically upgrade to the version of license you give it and reboot, nothing will change except unlocked features

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

unless you already have pro installed

[torpid sorrel]

alr

[obsidian wigeon]

it'll just activate it

[torpid sorrel]

should i just go steal my friends install so i dont have to do updates

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[torpid sorrel]

why

[obsidian wigeon]

you could just go to the friend's place and make a windows usb

[potent portal]

Not the best idea because it'll trigger one or the other to be automatically deactivated

[obsidian wigeon]

with media creation tool

[torpid sorrel]

thats what i mean

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

then you can do that

[torpid sorrel]

i dont think it would do that

[potent portal]

I thought by "steal" you meant copy their drive lol

[obsidian wigeon]

ye same

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

run windows unactivated for now then get cash for license later

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

you can still change the wallpaper if you're concerned about that

[torpid sorrel]

should i go copy onto usb tho

[obsidian wigeon]

no

[torpid sorrel]

im not

[obsidian wigeon]

you run windows media creation tool you download from microsoft

[torpid sorrel]

thats what i mean

[obsidian wigeon]

and use it to make the usb drive bootable

[torpid sorrel]

download that on his

and plug in usb

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[torpid sorrel]

and make a install

[obsidian wigeon]

yep, as simple as that

[torpid sorrel]

so should i go do that

[obsidian wigeon]

definitely

[torpid sorrel]

bc its getting late

alr

[obsidian wigeon]

if you want your pc to be usable you need an os lel

[torpid sorrel]

see u guys in like 20 after i do that

[torpid sorrel]

ik

o/

[potent portal]

Linux live USB is an option

[gloomy fog]

I'm buying RTX 4090 + 13900K, should I wait for 13900KS to come?

[cyan ravine]

KS is just a money sink for binning

Only buy KS for really serious overclocking, and only buy K for overclocking

Otherwise both can be a waste over say, a 13900F

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[torpid sorrel]

ok im in the windows boot screen rn

what key do i put

i dont have one

how do i put that

[obsidian wigeon]

you click i don't have one

[torpid sorrel]

ok

the it brings up a menu

with like every windows edition

what do i put

[obsidian wigeon]

choose pro

x64

[paper summit]

Wooo watermark gang 💀

[obsidian wigeon]

not pro n

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[paper summit]

I chose pro

[torpid sorrel]

also

i have the usb in rn

[obsidian wigeon]

pro n removes some components some games might need

[torpid sorrel]

what do i do for boot priority

in bios

[obsidian wigeon]

doesn't matter

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

it'll boot and continue install until it finishes

once it finishes you can safely unplug the usb drive

[torpid sorrel]

ok

how do i go back to the windows install menu

im in bios rn

[obsidian wigeon]

go to boot menu

and set usb drive to highest priority

[torpid sorrel]

ok

[obsidian wigeon]

or you can just do boot override if you want, works both ways

[torpid sorrel]

alr

[obsidian wigeon]

then you just reboot

[torpid sorrel]

ok

where do i want to install windows

i think the ssd

[analog hearth]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

yap

[torpid sorrel]

ok done

its in bios now

can i unplug the usb safely?

also what do i do now

im in bios

in the asus bios

how do i get to windows

i clicked on boot from ssd

its loading

[runic hollow]

@analog hearth 😂😂😂😂

[analog hearth]

what?

[cyan ravine]

I agree, I can't unsee it either

[torpid sorrel]

what

[analog hearth]

ah

I thought I was pinged for no reason

[analog hearth]

I need a microwave handle

[cyan ravine]

Hahaha

I would love that

[analog hearth]

I’ve already been shopping around

[cyan ravine]

Then stick it somewhere like, relative to the kitchen when people are over

[frank stirrup]

truuuuuuuu

[torpid sorrel]

guys thanks to you my pc is working great! tysm

P.S ive already filled up 1/4 of the storage with games

i only have 4 tb tho

[cyan ravine]

1TB already

[torpid sorrel]

More now

But I did download like Forza, red dead, blade and sorcery, and also a couple others

[cyan ravine]

@sullen spoke all channels

[modest niche]

Hey

[torpid sorrel]

So I just opened the license page on the pc

I can't enter a code even if I wanted to

Why

[low drum]

Was wondering does anyone have there opinions about bitspower titan 2.0?

[cyan ravine]

bit silly to be investing in a system with an x570 rn imo

[low drum]

Wdym x570? I don’t believe we are talking about the same thing

[cyan ravine]

pre-installed with a motherboard no?

[low drum]

No?

[low drum]

I’m not wanting the pre installed mobo

Just the titan 2.0 not the x version

[cyan ravine]

this?

[low drum]

Yes

[cyan ravine]

they're all 2.0

[low drum]

Ye I should have said the titan one 2.0

My bad

😂

[cyan ravine]

I mean it'd work but you'll need to maintain the system regularly

[obsidian wigeon]

^

that's the thing about custom loops

[low drum]

How so if I may ask?

[cyan ravine]

I'm also not 110% sure every motherboard would fit either btw

[obsidian wigeon]

every few months

or even less i believe

[cyan ravine]

custom loops need to be drained and refilled every 6 months or so

[low drum]

Interesting to know

[cyan ravine]

whole lotta cleaning

[obsidian wigeon]

ya

[cyan ravine]

and then refitting etc

[obsidian wigeon]

or they get all gunked up and rip cooling

[low drum]

Okay

Good to know

[cyan ravine]

I mean apart from that

water loops are excessive in cost regardless

but that's all really

[low drum]

Ye

[obsidian wigeon]

it's basically maintaining you car's cooling system

except it's pc form

[cyan ravine]

you can get some 98%+ of the experience with good conventional aio's or gpu heatsinks

especially the new 40 series

overbuilt to hecc

[low drum]

Okay

[cyan ravine]

I don't feel like there's much else to say

I guess you won't be getting the best block either, heatkiller IV afaik is supposed to be better

[torpid sorrel]

.

Pls help

[frigid night]

Why can't you enter a code if you even wanted to? Pics help a lot too.

[torpid sorrel]

I can't get pics rn but there just isn't a place to put in a code

[cyan ravine]

does it say a license is already activated?

[torpid sorrel]

It says reported to microsoft

[cyan ravine]

we need pics

[torpid sorrel]

Well I'm too poor for a phone

I blew my last 2 up

I'll get some pics tomorrow I'm going to bed

Night

[frigid night]

@limber oyster Your monitors bug me a bit. Are you not able to get your left one to even out?

[limber oyster]

They're different sizes and the left one is curved

It bugs me too

[frigid night]

yeah I see that. I think if you put your curved straight forward on the right side and your other monitor on the left side angled, you would have a better time with it.

[limber oyster]

I'm waiting till tax return to get another curved

[frigid night]

nice. I've been waiting on my tax return since Feb

[limber oyster]

I'm getting like $4000

[upper tusk]

Final list. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2PNZv3. Case isnt on list. 2x200mm fans plus 1 120mm fan

With rgb

Psu and fan still good?

[mossy venture]

214xt is not enough for the 5800x

I'd switch cpu to 5700x and cooler to pa120 se

do you already own the 870 evo?

[upper tusk]

Its a standin for the ssd in my current pc

[upper tusk]

Its only cost an extra 10 bucks 4 5800x from 5700x

[mossy venture]

5700x is cooler

and same perf

[upper tusk]

I rather go 5800x im getting a high end gpu from last gen why not cpu as well

[mossy venture]

5700x is the same perf

5800x is much hotter

while having maybe 2% better gaming perf than the 5700x

I'd only get 5800x over 5700x if the 5800x is cheaper

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7MVmP6/oloy-blade-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-nd4u1636181drkde also cheaper ram while still having rgb

[upper tusk]

Dont really care 4 rgb ram

[mossy venture]

then one sec

there's still cheaper same specced ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KV4BD3/oloy-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-md4u1636181chkda

[upper tusk]

T-force tomorrow on newegg 3600 daily deal

32 gig

[mossy venture]

oh lastly, better ssd for less https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2vVmP6/intel-670p-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknu020tzx1

i cannot stress enough though, the 214xt is not good enough for either then 5700x or 5800x

[upper tusk]

Im going with kingston 2tb nvme 136 or so

[mossy venture]

get the peerless assassin 120 se

[mossy venture]

nv2?

or nv1

if it's nv1, I wouldn't

nv2 is fine

[upper tusk]

Nv2

[mossy venture]

alright

[upper tusk]

How about hyper cooler 212 or noctua 15

I got 2x200mm fans and 120mm fan in case as well

[weary galleon]

Hyper 212 usually overpriced and at this point it's an old design

[weary galleon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q6H7YJ/thermalright-assassin-x-120-refined-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ax120-se-d3

[fossil cedar]

Assuming you already have the sata ssd I'd do this instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZwfC9r

[upper tusk]

Sata is recycled from current pc

[fossil cedar]

Yes then do that ^

[upper tusk]

Tforce ram sale tomorrow on newegg

Kingston nv2 2tb

How about pa120se? @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

Fs140 is better assuming the cooler fits your case

Also okay then look at the price of their 3600cl18 2x16gb if it's cheaper get that

[upper tusk]

Gamemax aero

[fossil cedar]

And pilot e is way better

Gamemax aero?

Oof might want a new case

[upper tusk]

Case

[fossil cedar]

Eh should be okay actually i was thinking of a different one

Yeah looks like it should fit the cooler in the list

[upper tusk]

@fossil cedar will the ta120 that stevie sent works?

[weary galleon]

Yes

Case says it fits up to 170mm cpu cooler

120SE is <150

[fossil cedar]

Yes but far worse cpu cooler

[weary galleon]

For a 5700x it's fine

[fossil cedar]

It's literally saving 10$

It's cutting it close on a 5700x

If you can't afford a good enough cooler for the 5700x (10$ more ) you shouldn't be buying a 5700x

[weary galleon]

Yeah for $10 it's probably the better bet

But 5700x is only a 65w chip right?

[upper tusk]

So 5800x i will get the thermalright 140m

[weary galleon]

Are you only gaming on the PC or do you do other stuff like photo/video editing @upper tusk

[upper tusk]

Gaming

[weary galleon]

Just go 5700x

Idk if 5800x is better for productivity tasks but it isn't better for gaming

Maybe a couple percent

[upper tusk]

5700x is only cheaper than 5800x here in the states

[cyan ravine]

5700X and 5800X are literally the same chip but one has a lower power limit (which you can remove anyway)

5700X is easily the better buy as it runs at 65W without problems

[modest niche]

Hey

[upper tusk]

Thanks.

[modest niche]

Is the i5 12600k compatible with msi pro z690 motherboard

[earnest olive]

yes

[upper tusk]

Will se 214xt work with 5700x

[weary galleon]

yes but peerless assassin 120 is better

or the FS140

[mossy venture]

As Stevie said, I would get one of the two aforementioned coolers

Theyre far better than a single tower cooler like the 214xt, and not that much more

A 5700x with a pa120 might actually perform better than a 5800x with a 214xt due to the 5800x throttling

[weary galleon]

assassin 120 is single tower, still a bit better than 214xt though

single tower is fine for a 65w chip

[mossy venture]

Theyre very similar

Near identical

[mossy venture]

The 5700x is I'm pretty sure the hottest 65w chip

[weary galleon]

?

[mossy venture]

It's got a low tdp sure, but its far from cool

[weary galleon]

like it boosts more maybe?

[mossy venture]

It would probably sit around 85-90c with a 214xt in gaming

Especially if you're going to enable pbo, which it's kinda a waste not to

[analog pulsar]

I need a pc for kids that can run fornite and GTA 5

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sF8TwP

Here is the case

[cyan ravine]

It works but you won't get any overclocking out of it without using one of the recommended coolers

The 8 core chips of zen 3 also tend to be hot bois so you might find the suggested coolers to be more of a happy medium rather than overkill

[torpid sorrel]

Welp

So my aio or gpu is making a lite clicking noise

Idk which it is

It happens when I open any application

[potent portal]

Could be a fan skipping on something or unbalanced

Or if it's the AIO that'll be either a fan or the pump since they're the only moving parts

Try slowing down one fan at a time with your finger and see if you can find the one that clicks

[torpid sorrel]

K

Could it be I turned on docp

It started when I turned that on

[potent portal]

Nah. If that had anything at all to do with it then it would still be the cpu being slightly hotter causing the AIO to run slightly faster.

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

Could it be cool whine?

Coil

[potent portal]

Coil whine is more of a high pitched squealing, not a clicking. Power supplies can click sometimes when they're changing modes.

[torpid sorrel]

But mines doing it every time I open something

[potent portal]

Or if it's bad enough coil whine can also be called a high pitched scream that keeps dogs out of your house

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

Could it be chipset fans?

[potent portal]

When you open programs there's a short but high load applied to the CPU and the temperature will spike, causing the cooler to jump in rpm for a second

[torpid sorrel]

But I have nothing open rn and I still hear it

[potent portal]

Then it's constant and not just when you open things like you said before

I still say it's a fan

[torpid sorrel]

I think it's the gpu or heatsink fans

Bc the gpu is basically against the chipset fans

[potent portal]

Loose, old, or unbalanced fans can be loud like that

And yes the chipset fan is another possibility

[torpid sorrel]

Just looked up

It's a common thing in x570s ig

1 sec

[potent portal]

Most of those boards use fans that are easily replaced. There's only a few that use non-standard or impossible to remove fans.

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

But my question is

Why only when I open something

And I just got this board too

[potent portal]

You're contradicting yourself

[torpid sorrel]

Ok fair

I don't hear it rn tho

How could it be the aio?

Bc I don't wanna break anything

I don't mind the noise

Oh I found what it was

It's the psu

[potent portal]

.

[torpid sorrel]

I did

[potent portal]

Oh the psu

[cyan ravine]

Psu fan clicking?

[upper tusk]

that sounds bad

[cyan ravine]

If the fan is hqving trouble, yeah

Not something you want long term

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

How to fix

Ok so it's one of 3 things

Chipset fans bearings are grinding

Gpu is doing something weird ( I really hope not)

Or psu fans

I hear it the loudest when I put my ear by the gpu

@potent portal

Could it be the WiFi card?

[mossy venture]

no

[torpid sorrel]

Then I think it's definitely the gpi

Gpu

It's the gpu

It's coming from by where the gpu bracket is

Some pls help I'm scared

Someone

[weary galleon]

My gpu makes noise when the fans turn on/off

actually both my old gigabyte 2060 and now my evga 3060ti do it

@torpid sorrel is it sorta like a short grinding and squeaking sound at the same time?

try using a program to manually control your gpu fans

@torpid sorrel

edit: I think it's only when they turn on. My guess is that it's trying to ramp them up too fast

[torpid sorrel]

Like it's all the time now

I'm scared to use it

[weary galleon]

Just constant noise when the PC is on?

If so that's definitely a problem

[torpid sorrel]

It sounds like a electrical buzz

[weary galleon]

Could be gpu coil whine

[torpid sorrel]

It's not loud

[weary galleon]

Yeah probably coil whine

Does it change volume and/or pitch when you run a game

[torpid sorrel]

But isn't coil whine loud

Yeah

It's near the bracket

That's where the sound is loudest

Also none of the fans run when I start a game

[potent portal]

It varies in volume, tone, and pitch.
If it is coil whine it's not dangerous in any way.

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

Should i just use the PC as usual

And if anything blows up then return?

[potent portal]

A lot of the time it'll be more noticeable when you're running a game at extremely high fps, like CSGO at 300+ fps

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

Also it isn't squeaky

And isn't super high piched

Pitched

[potent portal]

None of these possibilities so far point at anything that'll cause permanent damage. Worst case something gets hotter than normal.

I've personally heard about 100 types of coil whine and they all sound different

[torpid sorrel]

This is exactly what it sounds like

https://youtube.com/shorts/SPi816ocn8I?feature=share

[potent portal]

I'd say close up the case, run the computer normally, play a couple games, and see if the whine bothers you when you're not listening for it.

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

[potent portal]

If it is distractingly annoying then exchange the GPU

[torpid sorrel]

If I don't say anything within 2 hours my psu exploded and the shards of glass hit me

[torpid sorrel]

Does it get higher over time?

[potent portal]

Sometimes, not often

[torpid sorrel]

Ok

[potent portal]

You've got your entire warranty period to decide to keep it or not

[torpid sorrel]

Alr

[torpid sorrel]

It's great

I was able to run chrome dino with rtx on and also highest graphics

Also I'm not joking

I ran chrome dino on max graphicd

[pale dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-score-judging-zero-gif-13779921

[pale vigil]

Hey all, I just assembled my computer and am getting a ram error signal. There is a red ram error light on the motherboard that lights up. I don't seem to get a signal to my monitor, so I'm not sure how to try changing any settings. I tried using 2 sticks, one stick, different ram slots, etc., but no change. Sometimes the cpu error light also turns on, but most of the time, just a memory error. Any ideas? It's a Z690 Aorus elite ax motherboard with ripjaw s5 ddr5 ram

[potent portal]

What CPU?

[pale vigil]

Intel i7-13700k

[potent portal]

You need to update the bios

[pale vigil]

Ah! Ok. So I guess that's the process of putting the new bios on a usb stick, plugging it in, and pressing some bios update button? (I'll look up the details but want to make sure that sounds about right)

Using bios flash I guess?

[potent portal]

Basically. But not every board has that update button, and if you can't load bios to update you need an older cpu to update with.

I'm double checking if your board does.

[pale vigil]

Ok. I know there is a qflash (or something like that) button.

[leaden mauve]

Or you can buy a spi25 flash programmer like a ch341a

[potent portal]

$20 used pentium works better I think, less experience required

[leaden mauve]

Sure i guess

[pale vigil]

Do you think the Q-flash approach is much more difficult? I know there is some risk to using it. I'm definitely no pro with computers, but not totally illiterate either.

[potent portal]

Yes you do but Gigabyte in their infinite wisdom decided not to include the steps in the manual.

It's not really more difficult but it can be stressful because it takes longer and there's no feedback

[pale vigil]

Gotcha. I'll look up the instructions and see how I feel, and go from there. Thanks!

[potent portal]

https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/Utility/mb_utility_atbios_B21.1203.1.zip
That tool will rename the downloaded bios file from here
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/BIOS/mb_bios_z690-aorus-elite-ax_f20b.zip
And then you just put it on a USB formatted as FAT32, plug it into the designated USB port, and press the Q-flash button.

The correct port is labeled "bios" between your wifi antenna and the hdmi port

You don't turn the computer on and you don't even need the cpu installed at all to flash btw

[pale vigil]

Ok that's great! Thanks so much for this info. I'll look for my 2nd usb drive and try this (windows occupies the first usb stick I could find lol)

[potent portal]

You can put it on the same drive, it looks for the specific filename

As long as it's FAT32

[upper ore]

God damnit my pc is starting to freeze randomly again. And after everything I've done to try and fix it. Somehow it's acting up again and I have no idea what to try now. Before it was my dying hard drive and now I have no idea what it could be.

[mossy venture]

have you run rawrs windows fix script thing?

it's pinned in #windows-ios

[upper ore]

Okay thank you I'll try it out tomorrow.

[little osprey]

Hey so I am setting up my computer in a new case, and I find that I am having to re-route my cables and I am wondering if I have a bunch of usb devices how many I can stack in a tree and then plug into a single USB port on my motherboard. I have a Gigabyte Aorus B550M Pro-P motherboard and I have a powered USB hub that two other non powered hubs plug into. Here is a pic of what I am talking about