building-and-recc-chat

[zenith cargo]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08M9M6DB9?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

so this psu

for the gpu

right?

[potent portal]

That would work

Oh that reminds me, I need to make a parametric selection list for the PSU tier list...

[zenith cargo]

theres plenty of - reviews on there 0_0

[limber oyster]

Bro....I found the kind of backplate I want on my GPU

This on my backplate

[potent portal]

This one's cheaper, still A tier, and has longer cables https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PZR9JLT

Oh wait no the cables are the same mb

[zenith cargo]

?

[potent portal]

The cable length is one of the things reviewers complained about on the cooler master one

[zenith cargo]

oh

yea

[potent portal]

But honestly unless you have a big case or weird layout it's a non-issue

Still that thermaltake would save you $5 lol

[zenith cargo]

sir. can you explain the pcie connectors. like wtf do the 6+2, 8+8 mean

[potent portal]

4+4 will be your CPU one

[cyan ravine]

6+2 or 8 is gpu

Either work

They do 6+2 so it works in a 6 pin and 8 pin slot (6+2 is 8/shrug)

[potent portal]

EPS is the CPU if they call it that also

[potent portal]

Because all those extra 2 pins are is ground 🤦‍♂️

PCI spec is weird

[cyan ravine]

At least the new spec is simpler

All top voltage plane, all bottom ground

[potent portal]

"Simpler"

If you ignore the new 4 sense pins lol

[cyan ravine]

Ye true

But that also stops anyone putting something too powerful in to a psu

[zenith cargo]

o

[potent portal]

Ooh I just noticed the $10 coupon on the cooler master, that does make it cheaper

[cyan ravine]

Ooo

[potent portal]

You know someone is going to post a guide on how to trick it with pieces of small wire so you can run 600W on a 300W cable

It's really not hard to do, not like the pins are shielded

[cyan ravine]

And you're right

But also you're basically modding at that point so it's the user at fault

It's not like a simple plug n play

[potent portal]

It's an undetectable mod though

Easy to reverse and commit fraud

[cyan ravine]

Hm

Well at least for the layman it's less easy

Another layer of idiot proofing

[frozen mountain]

imagine

[frigid night]

Imagine what?

[dim forge]

550W is enough for a 12100F + 6600?

[sturdy kiln]

Hello what would be the best wifi motherboard for a Ryzen 7 5800x 4th gen processor?

[fossil cedar]

I wouldn't be buying a 5800x full stop

Not anymore

[broken lake]

Can someone explain to me how to install wifi drivers?

[obsidian wigeon]

Download it, put on pc and run

Might need to extract if it comes in zip file

[mossy venture]

I doubt the total system would exceed 300w

[cyan ravine]

• 6600 @250W enters the chat *

[dim forge]

And, it is better for gaming than 12400F + 1660s, right?

[mossy venture]

yes

[paper summit]

Hmmmm this reminds me of something

[fossil cedar]

There's always stock problems on day 1 of launch

Usually lasts a month or so

[paper summit]

Not according to borg lolll

Ok so my gpu has two 8 pins and my psu has an 8 pin cable that splits into two and another thats just one 8 pin im asuming i should use 2 separate cabled rather than the splitter

[mossy venture]

yes

[paper summit]

Ok thanks

Thats how i had it wired i just wanted to clarify

[fossil cedar]

who lol?

[paper summit]

Valik

[fossil cedar]

as in escanor?

probably a better pic

[paper summit]

Yea geuss he changed hus name

[fossil cedar]

there has pretty much always been stock issues near launch

[analog pulsar]

He means after people buy there's and more stock become available like 3000 series we went a whole 2 years without gpus he's saying it's not gunna be as long as a wait before

Also gpus will be msrp

scalpers

[potent portal]

At least those are A tier PSUs and not literal bombs

[pale vigil]

Speaking of launch stock issues...

I'm seeing a lot of out-of-stock for the i7-13700k, which I was planning to get for a build approximately tomorrow (on release day). I'm a total noob here, especially with buying something just after release.

Do you think it's better for me to wait a few weeks? Would the price go up or down? Am I safe to just order on Newegg or something despite it being out of stock, and they will likely have it in stock in a week or so? I'm a bit paranoid I'll order it from a company while it's out of stock, and I'll be waiting for months or something. But I'm also paranoid that if I don't order now, I might be waiting even longer for it since I'd be sort of last in line...

[plain grove]

Does anyone know how to fix this

Basically I have two monitors on the bottem and a tv right above and the display got all messed up

I can’t move the number 2 anywhere and it’s weird because the number 2 should be the tv and 3 and 1 should be the monitor

[stoic island]

Preordering is always just unknown, we don't know how many people are preordering and we don't know how much stock is there. Prices will not change for the first few months of a product launching, other than very big sales like Black Friday or Christmas.

[pale vigil]

Gotcha, thanks. It sounds like my best bet is to just order now and see how it goes.

Have there been cases of CPUs taking months to become available? If something that extreme is quite possible, I might just opt for 12th gen.

[mossy venture]

It happened with 5000 series, but thats the only recent one I know of

It's extremely unlikely imo

It was bc of the pandemic and supply shortage, which were done with

[pale vigil]

Ah that's good to hear. Thanks!

[mossy venture]

Once reviews of 13th gen are out, if there aren't decent increases in performance I'm going to get a 12th gen cpu used

Or maybe 5000 series depending, idk

[strong raft]

@ripe spear That's kinda crap "airflow" tbh. I guess front is intake also? Positive airflow is good, but a single rear exhaust means air isn't moving all that fast. I suggest making top exhaust.

[ripe spear]

I guess you did not read what i said

[plain grove]

If anyone knows how to fix the issue I would appreciate it won’t let me move around number 2 which is a 65 inch tv and it won’t let me make number 3 and 1 smaller which is a 27 inch monitors

[sturdy bane]

Hello there! I am looking for some advice for what kind of CPU cooler clearance the Rosewill RSV-L4000U 4U Server Chassis has. Preferably air (and preferably Noctua) but I am open for other suggestions, also. Can I link products on Newegg in here? I have the case already, and I intend to put an AM4 board in there, but my existing AIO is too large (280x140mm). Oh, it's for a Ryzen 7 3700X 7 5800X.

[little osprey]

As far as Newegg links, those are just fine

I'll double check the clearance RQ

[sturdy bane]

I can't find any clearance info on Newegg or Rosewill's page.

Maybe a spec PDF?

[little osprey]

Well the issue is it's a server case, isn't it?

[sturdy bane]

yes, but it's a server case for regular ATX/E-ATX boards

[little osprey]

Hmmmm

[sturdy bane]

kinda neat

[little osprey]

Yes, but I don't think it was designed for PC building, I'll keep looking into it

[sturdy bane]

don't need to buy a bunch of server stuff, can just dig in my graveyard

I mean, I am building a server. And, yes, it's a rackmount case, but it's all for regular PC components.

[little osprey]

Fair enough

[sturdy bane]

This is the case: https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rsv-l4000u-black/p/N82E16811147327?Item=N82E16811147327

[little osprey]

You said you have the case already right?

[sturdy bane]

8-bay 7-fan submodel

[sturdy bane]

yep

lemme see if I can measure

[cyan ravine]

Do you have the cpu yet

[sturdy bane]

I measured, and it's like 5 1/2" which is... 140mm or so

[cyan ravine]

Or board

[sturdy bane]

I do have both CPU and board

[cyan ravine]

Le oof

[sturdy bane]

(I'm gutting my "old" gaming rig)

https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-0005-00237

[little osprey]

Well the case has 120mm fans and those are pretty big on it

[sturdy bane]

would that fan be sufficient for the 5800X?

[little osprey]

So it's hard to say

[cyan ravine]

Nah not really at all

If it was a 5700X, yes

Same chip same perf but one if half the wattage basically

[sturdy bane]

I meant, taking the offset screws for the mobo into account and giving some slack for my poor measuring skills I gave it 5.5", but it's probably more like 6"

[cyan ravine]

I would at least aim for a dual tower with that cpu

That's running without pbo

[sturdy bane]

PBO?

[cyan ravine]

Pbo you want the aio that doesn't fit lol

[sturdy bane]

OK, so what cooling tower can I get that's under 150mm?

[cyan ravine]

PBO is like a mild overclock but it yeets the current* so high wattage

[sturdy bane]

aaah

[little osprey]

This build is gonna be a tight fit to say the least 😅

[sturdy bane]

there's a middle mesh "wall" between the drive bays where three 120mm fans are mounted, and they've got space underneath them as well... so... AIO?

I was hoping to save some money. Wife's like... WHAT IS THIS FOR?

[mossy venture]

I'd check the height on pa120 se

U12s would do fine, if the case has good airflow

Worst case scenario run a mild undervolt

[sturdy bane]

what's this? can you link?

[mossy venture]

Peerless assassin 120 se

[sturdy bane]

airflow is ample, two front 120mm, three internal 120mm, and two amped up 80mm exhausts

[mossy venture]

I've no clue how tall it is though https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assasin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3

Which is why I'd check

[mossy venture]

Does it have a mesh front?

[sturdy bane]

it does, but I am probably going to yank that out and just leave the holes

[mossy venture]

Ah

[sturdy bane]

hmm, I found a few PA12s on Newegg, like this one: https://www.newegg.com/p/13C-000Y-00035?Description=thermalright peerless assassin&cm_re=thermalright_peerless assassin-_-13C-000Y-00035-_-Product&quicklink=true

they're 157mm tall

that's going to be ultra-tight, not sure if that'll fit

nope, I found my digital calipers and measured, and there's only ~155mm clearance from the stand-off screws on the case, so then add at least 20mm with the mobo and the CPU, right?

or how is that clearance measured?

So, I think I have to get an AIO. This case can definitely fit a 120mm x 360mm.

[little osprey]

I need help with a question about a GPU in #graphics-cards and if that'd pair well with a 12100

[sturdy bane]

What are y'alls thoughts on this one? https://www.newegg.com/asus-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835101074

Seems impossible to find an AIO without RGB, but... 😄

Perhaps... https://www.newegg.com/ekwb-liquid-cooling-system-basic-360mm/p/2SA-000U-00007

anyone with good things to say about the EK coolers?

(if these questions are best asked elsewhere, please let me know!)

[stoic island]

Grab this for pure performance
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WNJCVNW

[sturdy bane]

QUALITY CONTROL APPROVED: We have increased the quality assurance and quality control. The products have been subjected to additional tests and marked with a QC sticker

seems legit

But, other than that marketing snafu, looks like a pretty solid unit

they even took a picture, specifically of the QC sticker... That ticked me!

[stoic island]

Source for perf numbers
https://youtu.be/KPLWlkHPlyo

Also, the EK-AIO Basic performs worse than the OG EK-AIO drgb

[sturdy bane]

Well, if Gamer Jesus has said so, who am I to argue!

[mossy venture]

Gamer Jesus is the only Jesus I trust

[sturdy bane]

I have three Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM, you think those would be comparable to the fans that come with the Arctic 360?

I guess I can always try them out

[mossy venture]

The arctic comes with p12s, they're some of the best fans on the market

Not the same p12s

Arctic p12s

[sturdy bane]

nice, ok

[mossy venture]

Pretty sure they're better, but I could be wrong

[stoic island]

actually they're probably going to perform similarly

Noctua NF-P12's are also designed more as radiator fans

redux is just a bit worse bearings and usually rpm limited a bit

[sturdy bane]

yeah, and louder too it seems

[stoic island]

yea sso1 bearings instead of sso2

[sturdy bane]

Would the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 be sufficient for an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X?

Delivery times on the 360 are a bit ridic to the states.

and, I would get the 240 as soon as Sunday, for $89, shipped.

[paper summit]

Real

[stoic island]

should be

offset mount gonna be nice for am4

[plain grove]

Fixed my issue finally just had to keep extending it

[mossy venture]

It'll do fine, just don't oc much

Pbo should be under throttle limit with it

[weary galleon]

You could also see about a 280

Although like bacca said a 240 will be enough

Pretty sure a nice air cooler will beat a 240

[velvet yoke]

Out of curiosity. Should I leave my GPU in the top slot. Or should I drop it down to the next slot to leave a clearance for my chipset fan?

[mossy venture]

It gets close

But also it doesn't fit in his case

[weary galleon]

ah

[potent portal]

The top slot has the best latency and might be a newer generation than the others, since it's directly attached to the CPU instead of passing through the chipset.

[velvet yoke]

True.

[sturdy bane]

can't fit a 280 (already tried) and the nice air coolers are all too tall

[potent portal]

The 240 is enough for keeping it under 90 during gaming but anything more intense will see it immediately jump to 90 and throttle

That's one of the hottest modern CPUs

[sturdy bane]

it'll be running server loads

[paper summit]

Actually didnt know that thought that was always intel lol

[sturdy bane]

oh, sorry, I thought that was addressed to me

[paper summit]

360 rad go brr

[sturdy bane]

most of the heat's most likely going to be generated by the RTX 30x that'll be doing ML loads

depending on the temps I see with the 240 I might get the 360 after all

[analog pulsar]

What's a good 1TB ssd

[potent portal]

MP33

[paper summit]

One that u dont chew on

[potent portal]

Intel is technically hotter but only because the high end parts use so much more power. 5800X is roughly equal to the 12700k in heat. 13th gen I've heard is cooler.

[analog pulsar]

Idk about that

[worn wave]

Lmao, why do you not know about that.

[analog pulsar]

I currently have I think the 512GB and it feels slot

Boot time is like 31 seconds or something

[paper summit]

If u alr new why would u ask

Lol

[worn wave]

I have just bought multiple MP33s for servers and backups, they are great.

[analog pulsar]

I need 1TB

[worn wave]

That is not at fault of your SSD lmfao.

[analog pulsar]

Let me double check what I ahve

[potent portal]

That's your startup programs, Windows clean boot will be closer to 8-11

[worn wave]

That is for sure at fault of you and whatever malware you have starting on startup.

[analog pulsar]

I don't have malware lol

[paper summit]

Im using a cheap silocon power ssd and my boot times are great lol

[potent portal]

"Malware" in the sense it's sucking up system resources and you probably aren't even using it

[paper summit]

Cough cough rgb software

[analog pulsar]

I don't have any lol

[potent portal]

There's also things like the adobe auto updater, cortana, discord updater, etc

[analog pulsar]

Cortana disabled but discord not

[paper summit]

I despise cortana

[analog pulsar]

heres my speeds

https://www.amazon.com/TEAMGROUP-MP33-512GB-Gen3x4-TM8FP6512G0C101/dp/B07XJ2P1LK yea this is it

[potent portal]

That's actually really close to what guru3D got

[analog pulsar]

lol

I feel special

[pale bane]

can anyone recommend a good pcie wifi card?

[mossy venture]

I use a dirt cheap sata ssd and my boot time is 8-10 seconds

[pale bane]

and does it matter if it's able to do wifi6 or not?

[fossil cedar]

Anything with intel ax200 or something like that is gonnna be great

[pale bane]

so is the tp link t4e good?

[cyan ravine]

looks like a wifi 5* card

see if you can find an 'intel wi-fi 6 ax200' kit

[pale bane]

I checked and the wifi I have is wifi 5 so I don't think it really matters

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/VLTTDq this should be my final list now

[steady canyon]

Morning noon night guys and gals. I’ve been seeing that my gpu is constantly running the 3d at like 80% even when it’s just sitting at the desktop screen with nothing happening why is this and how do I lower it?

[cyan ravine]

considering the price is likely very little difference and whether you change down the line I think it's worth opting for wifi 6/6E

you also get better bluetooth with it

[cyan ravine]

is that pic taken while any games or benchmarks are perhaps open in the background

like alt-tabbed

maybe wallpaper engine?

[pale bane]

it's a difference of €15-30

[little osprey]

Is a 12100F gonna pair well with a RX 5600 XT?

[cyan ravine]

yeah it'll be fine

[little osprey]

Oh, alright sweet

Thanks

[cyan ravine]

hmm maybe not for 15 euros

[pale bane]

you mean it's not worth it?

[cyan ravine]

ye

although I just looked at that list I would change that ram

[pale bane]

for what?

[cyan ravine]

vengeance ddr4 base bin is a pain

literally anything else similar price/xmp

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/f2xbt6/adata-xpg-spectrix-d41-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-ax4u3200316g16-dt41
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/8BLwrH/gskill-aegis-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/kXbkcf/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gvk

[pale bane]

I've had the 2x8 ddr4-2666 and it's fine, although tbf it could be that I don't know hoe something else feels and it would be a world of difference

[cyan ravine]

Vengeance has issues with xmp

I've seen too many stories and also heard too many stories to count over people unable to use the ram even at the advertised performance

[pale bane]

I think I'll go with this one

then

[cyan ravine]

Alright, not bad choice

[pale bane]

it's only €6 more and I like the way it looks more than the other 2

[cyan ravine]

you could also consider this for a few dollars back
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/D3Gbt6/scythe-fuma-2-revb-3944-cfm-cpu-cooler-scfm-2100

or this
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/d2fmP6/evga-clc-280-1135-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-400-hy-cl28-v1

the 280 rad will give you tons of OC room over an air cooler

makes getting an unlocked intel chip worth it

[pale bane]

idk if I wanna start messing with AIO's, I'm mostly just planning on leaving it since it can go up to 5,1GHz out of the box (right?)

[cyan ravine]

so I went back and tested this on my system and realised that task manager is just broken like that. If you looked at msi afterburner and checked gpu usage there it's probably fine (GPU-Z too)

[cyan ravine]

You may as well get a non-K chip and non-Z board if you do that

the difference in price will be maybe 100 euros and maybe 2-3% performance at most

you get the K chips to overclock, that's how you get the extra 5-10-15% that they offer

more if you do ram oc with it

[pale bane]

the non k chips aren't out yet are they?

[fossil cedar]

Go next kit up that kit redirects to some ddr5 laptop ram

[pale bane]

and the reason I'm getting the z board is because that has bios flashback

[fossil cedar]

Also i already gave you a list spain...

[cyan ravine]

nah not yet, but you can still do a b series board

[pale bane]

and I don't wanna be stuck with a pc that won't boot

[fossil cedar]

The motherboard in the list i gave you has flashback
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/zqprLs

Aww the nzxt boards jumped in price

[pale bane]

yep...

[fossil cedar]

There ya go

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZZMYhk

Literally just diff colour

[pale bane]

alr

thx

[cyan ravine]

do this one

[fossil cedar]

Also you can get cheaper cooler like the clc 280 like felix recommended

[cyan ravine]

much better layout

although change that ram again

lol

vengememes

[steady canyon]

thank u. i was checking it cause theres been this strange flickering like lines and some times the whole screen will get a quick flicker and get fuzzy. it literally happens so fast it doesnt really effect the screen but i just want to know whats going on

[cyan ravine]

uh

ok that is definitely weird

video?

sounds like the cable or port might have issues

here's mine tho fluctuating but staying at idle clocks

[fossil cedar]

Vengeance is perfectly fine especially when it's only being used for xmp and is the cheapest option

[cyan ravine]

I will die on this hill

Never vengeance never memes

reeeee

[fossil cedar]

I used to have vengeance it didn't like 3600c18 oc even tho samsung c die but apart from that works fine in bros pc now

Well oc was stable then one day boom by by windows

[cyan ravine]

and I remember lurking the PCMR server and at least 2 times a day I would see someone failing to boot xmp with new vengeance sticks

it's etched into me

the suffering

[fossil cedar]

Eh it's fine

[fossil cedar]

Inb4 3600c18 on b460 kek

[cyan ravine]

aegis cheaper https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/8BLwrH/gskill-aegis-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gis

[steady canyon]

I thought it might be the cables as well I'm checking them. and the 3d joint didn't start doing this till recently that's why I didn't know if it was a windows update or something

[fossil cedar]

Oh well lpx was cheapest last time

[cyan ravine]

europe is weird man

[fossil cedar]

Actually @pale bane
I'd do this instead, if you want rgb aio grab some artic p14 argb
https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/tCTTDq

[fossil cedar]

Cries in European

Why bullly

[cyan ravine]

you're irish

you're still EU?

[fossil cedar]

Wdym still lol?

[cyan ravine]

didn't leave with UK? smh?

[fossil cedar]

Uh we got rid of the British rule in 1916 💀

And joined the eu in like uh 1973

@cyan ravine bonk

[cyan ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/wasted-loser-crash-car-gif-26203950

[analog pulsar]

Is that windows just windows start

is cheaper one better

[paper summit]

Yea its faster too

[analog pulsar]

top is modern and button is movement does that difference

[obsidian wigeon]

mp34 is better

idk lol probably some translation error or something

[rain raven]

@ripe spear why is only one PCIe cable plugged in?

[obsidian wigeon]

It has only one 8 pin

That's why you saw only one

It's the dual fan xc so it only has one

The triple fan model has two

[upper tusk]

I have a question about upgrades. I currently have a z87a motherboard 16 gig ram and rx560. If i upgrade to 20 or 30 series, i know i will eventually need to upgrade my motherboard and cpu and cooling unit. Do i have to do that all in 1 shot?

I want to upgrade gpu first

I really dont care if bottleneck cause a fps drop as long i can get a stable 1080p60 gameplay

[fossil cedar]

you can upgrade the gpu now but you will have to upgrade the cpu ram and motherboard all in one, you may be able to reuse your current cooler

[upper tusk]

If i play lets say god of war will it cause any wear and tear on my other components. Also when i upgrade motherboard and cpu do i need to upgrade my storage or move everything to a portable hd first

[fossil cedar]

no it wont cause wear and tear

nope you can keep the storage but you will need to reinstall windows

[upper tusk]

Thanks. I mostly play on xbox. I only have sony ports or pc only games

So will i get 1080p60 in most games even if cpu is under powered @fossil cedar

[fossil cedar]

uh no bottlenecks are not harmful just not getting full amount of available performance

idk about 108060 but it depends although you should

[upper tusk]

It will run only if there is enough power in the psu to support it right

[fossil cedar]

uh no thats nothing really to do with bottlenecks

but yeah you should check your psu tho

[potent portal]

If the PSU isn't capable of giving that much power at stable voltage it'll just shut off

[upper tusk]

So with a 3060 base i should use a 650w

Also from amd to nividia uninstall amd and install nvidia srivers right

[empty pollen]

yes, everything 600+ is ok for a 3060

and yes you need to ddu when swapping amd to nvidia or nvidia to amd

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[empty pollen]

even a 550w is ok for a 3060

[fossil cedar]

550w is fine but the model matters most

[fossil cedar]

or honestly at all

[upper tusk]

Also even a pci 4.0 gpu uses the full power of pci 4.0 or will the 3060 needs only 3x16 pci to run games

[fossil cedar]

nah 3060 isnt close to using pcie 4.0 bandwidth

i run a 3060 ti on pcie 3 and see no difference

[jagged ember]

i think you're thinking of the 6500xt

[fossil cedar]

i think theyre just not as tech literate as us but thats fine

[mossy venture]

You'd be fine with a 450w, just depends on model

[empty pollen]

i ran a 3060ti on pcie 2, maybe 5 to 8fps less

[brittle brook]

im looking for a psu. my question is, what brands are good with making them, what brands should i stay away from.
gigabyte? msi? cool master? thermaltake? deepcool?

[frigid night]

ew.

[fossil cedar]

Model matters not brand, there's a guide in the pins of a tier list, anything in A and B tier would be what I'd aim for

[fossil cedar]

It can't even use pcie 3x16 lanes

[mossy venture]

I run my 3060 ti on pcie 3.0 I think

Oh wait nvm

[sturdy kiln]

What CPU is good for gaming?

[mossy venture]

Depends on price, budget, country, and rest of the pc

[potent portal]

I ran my 3080 ti and 3090 on 3.0 x16, there was absolutely no difference between that and 4.0

[earnest olive]

there are a few cards that care about pcie 3.0 vs. pcie 4.0

the 3060 is not one of them

[potent portal]

That category is almost exclusively occupied by the 6500 XT, since they limited the lanes to x4

[earnest olive]

it really depends on how you define "cares"

the 6500xt cares the most

there are a few other cards that you could definitely say care

but the difference is not nearly as high

the 4gb rx 5500xt cares

[potent portal]

I'm betting the 4090 would be limited at 3.0 x16

[earnest olive]

just not as much

yeah, the 4090 cares

rx 6600xt also cares somewhat

a lot of the cards that don't have x16 care to some degree

[potent portal]

But if you're getting a 4090 you probably have at least a 4.0 system lol

[earnest olive]

surely 7700K is still good enough, ubm told me so

why 4090 bottleneck by 7700K at 720p?

[potent portal]

I'm curious so I'm looking at the ubm "reviews" for the new gen chips

I know pre-launch they were inane ramblings about nothing

wtf according to ubm the 7590X has negative 2200% market share

That's like... divide by zero levels of stupid

Surprise surprise, the review hasn't changed and it's still nothing but complaining about marketing, and for some reason goes into GPU market share?

Even the 13900k review can't help but bash AMD for things that haven't even happened, or Intel does too

Oh and it goes into AMD GPU market share... again. WHY? What does that have to do with the processor?

[rigid oracle]

thinking about building a multi-system emulation console. these are the parts i picked out for it: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C4ktsL

the cpu is probably the most important when it comes to emulation

i chose micro atx cus its small

any ways i could possibly cut costs and make it cheaper?

[potent portal]

Use the stock cooler for one

But that 4600g is awful in price

[rigid oracle]

https://www.lakka.tv/ gonna use this operating system too

[rigid oracle]

oh the cpus come with coolers?

[potent portal]

Yes, basic ones but they work

[rigid oracle]

lol i need a good cpu for emulation

any good ones for a good price?

[potent portal]

5600g is a couple bucks more but worth it. Better GPU cores.

[rigid oracle]

could always go the raspberry pi route but i wanna be able to emulate ps2, ps3 and such

[potent portal]

PS3 won't like anything less than 8 cores

[rigid oracle]

prolly might go with that one. trying to avoid getting a gpu since i want this to remain small in size

initially i thought about it being portable, but i think a micro atx mobo is too big for that.

[potent portal]

One option you could do is a Steam Deck

It's got a reasonable set of specs for a handheld and lets you change the OS

There was one ad they did where they had a switch emu on screen and got in trouble for it lol

[rigid oracle]

lol

defeats the whole diy thing thou

i actually want a steam deck

i’ve heard people complaining how expensive it is compared to other consoles, pretty sure the steam deck is essentially a pc shoved into a handheld

[potent portal]

It is 100% a handheld pc

You can even run Windows

[rigid oracle]

niiice

yeah people complain about the high price tag

if you got the specs of the system and built it yourself you'd pay pretty much the same price

[potent portal]

Plus it would be much larger at that point

[wintry crow]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali619/p/N82E16883360284?Description=pre built pc&cm_re=pre_built pc-_-83-360-284-_-Product
is this actually good? or is there a better pre built for 1,000ish dollars on newegg or another site?

[analog pulsar]

why does this happen

i had it on older windows too

[lavish gale]

I need help getting a good pc

[analog hearth]

save up lmao

[wintry crow]

i just wanna know if Newegg ABS pre builts are trash or not.

[potent portal]

ABS are ok in general. If you're aiming for mid or high end get one with a mesh front.

Proof
https://youtu.be/b2vrvQydVIw

[wintry crow]

thoughts? https://newegg.io/7bd70b0?isCompability=true

anyone? ^

my 1st PC Build.

going for best i can get at 1,000$. not sure if i did good.

[potent portal]

P2 is a bad drive
H510 is an oven with no airflow

[wintry crow]

hmmm, replacment ideas?

idgaf about aesthetics

[potent portal]

PCPartPicker is better for finding good prices

[wintry crow]

ic

so replace P2 and replace case and it'll be good?

[potent portal]

I just gave it a quick glance

Let me see what I can do

[wintry crow]

also ive heard its better to go with Intel over AMD 5600x now a days.

[potent portal]

5600 is better for gamers than the X because cheaper for the same performance

But 12400 is a great option too

[wintry crow]

what about streaming 👀

surly amds better

[mossy venture]

I'll make you a list, give me a min

[potent portal]

If you're planning on streaming that's a fair reason to go nvidia but processor doesn't matter

[mossy venture]

Also no

[mossy venture]

Wrll, could go amd gpu with intel igpu for qsv

[wintry crow]

ty fellow frog enthusiast 🐸

[mossy venture]

Is 1k just for the tower?

[wintry crow]

ye 1k for whole build

[mossy venture]

Kk

Us?

[wintry crow]

1,199 wouldnt kill me

ye

[mossy venture]

Oh also do you care about looks?

[wintry crow]

not a single bit

do i even need a case

Lmao

[still roost]

TheKota#9588 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mossy venture]

Kk

I'd recommend a case

[wintry crow]

kk

[mossy venture]

Unless you know very well what you're doing

[wintry crow]

my house is pretty dusty ngl.

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DyFNDq

Case option is flexible, I just picked one I like

[wintry crow]

Wow nice

now i can compare that and baccas

[potent portal]

If you like the H510 the flow model is acceptable

[wintry crow]

nope, dont care about looks

[potent portal]

Yep always good to compare from multiple sources and make informed decisions based on those

[wintry crow]

[mossy venture]

List A https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xDw2Y9 (could add a 5 pack of arctic p12s)
List B https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bp3pRv

Could also throw in a 214xt to either one, the first one is def better value

[wintry crow]

most expensive part of the build is gonna be finding a good Chair for my 6,7" self

nice, ty!

[mossy venture]

Did 12400 instead of 12400f for the second one for the igpu, since it's useful for streaming when getting an amd gpu

[potent portal]

Yep big 'n tall chairs are expensive, it's quite a pain...

[mossy venture]

32gb could also be useful for streaming, depending on what you stream

[wintry crow]

[mossy venture]

When autocorrect makes it seem like you don't speak english

[wintry crow]

hmmmmm

[mossy venture]

Imo p400a a bit overpriced when you don't gaf about looks

[wintry crow]

i think ill go with your second list

[potent portal]

Indeed, like I said I just picked one I like lol

[mossy venture]

Aside from that I agree with fals, everything else just a matter of opinion

Ah missed that

Oh, did you need wifi?

Or are you using ethernet

[wintry crow]

btw im yoinking your PfP, ty

people are in this discord and use Wifi?

[mossy venture]

Lol, I Yonked it from google

[potent portal]

@mossy venture You didn't do the air model case XD

[mossy venture]

Ik, oos

[potent portal]

rip

[mossy venture]

All of the cases have a mesh front tho

[wintry crow]

Why isnt mesh front the standard.

[mossy venture]

Bc some companies stupid

And some companies make decent cases with solid front panels

[wintry crow]

i remeber wanting a pc back in 2015, and every single case had a glass front

[potent portal]

Because people buy those based on looks and some don't like the look of mesh

[mossy venture]

5000x is ok

Not as good as a decent case with mesh front

But good for what it is

[wintry crow]

i guess people are really out here trying to impress their moms with their

PC.

[potent portal]

Back in 2015 you didn't have GPUs drawing 500W and CPUs drawing 300W

[mossy venture]

3090 ti no pl can pull 1kw

Tis funny

[wintry crow]

I remember hearing about how crazy that was.

isnt it just bad design on Nividas part?

[mossy venture]

Meanwhile my 3060 ti that's about half the performance of it pulls about 1/5 of that

[mossy venture]

They've been forcing performance by doing crazy power consumption

Same with amds new cpus

[wintry crow]

they gotta sell new Power supplys somehow ig.

[potent portal]

The issue is they want to pull every last iota of performance at any cost since the market is so competitive now

[mossy venture]

Even 30 series had stupid tdp for what the performance gains were over being limited to around 80% power

My 3060 ti I think loses around 4% perf with 20% less power usage

Let alone what the 3080 and up lose, it's negligible for how much higher the power usage is

[potent portal]

Yeah 3080 at 300W gets nearly as much performance as the 3090 at 350W and if you power limit you only lose like 5% performance for 20% less power

[mossy venture]

Yeah its ridiculous

I'm expecting a stop gap generation like 16 series

[potent portal]

Gotta squeeze that last little bit out

[mossy venture]

Similar perf to the midrange and lower range cards of 40 series at lower power usage

[wintry crow]

honestly im shocked i can even make a good build for 900$, last time i wanted to make a PC was in 2015, and to make an actual good PC build that could run games on the highest settings it was like 2000$.

[potent portal]

Remember AMD has the option for a 7950XT or 7970XT that they can absolutely blast power into

[wintry crow]

maybe bitcoin miners weren't so bad after all

[potent portal]

Yeah it's great how the market has stabilized to the point that builds are downright affordable again

Midrange PC for $1000 was impossible a year ago

[weary galleon]

also ssd prices these days 😍

[potent portal]

MP33 POG

[wintry crow]

its good since ive been hearing games now a days are like 300gb minimum to donwload

[stoic island]

p41 plus pog

[potent portal]

Few people need the P41 but yeah that's easily the best, most efficient drive

But not the plus

[wintry crow]

Windows is easy to install and setup right? never done it before.

[potent portal]

Yeah super easy

[wintry crow]

phew. good.

[potent portal]

Do you prefer 10 or do you want 11

[wintry crow]

dont care.

ill just use what ever microsoft wants me too.

[potent portal]

10 is supported until 2025 and has everything a gamer wants without the... issues, that 11 has

[wintry crow]

will i get constant requests for updates tho.

"update to 11" pop ups .

[potent portal]

Nah just a notification in Windows Update that you're eligible to upgrade

No pop-ups

[wintry crow]

also what features does it have that gamers would want.

how does an OS matter.

like just ease of use stuff?

[potent portal]

10 and 11 are nearly identical for gamers. 11 is good if you have a 12600k+ with e-cores with the new task scheduler.

It's mostly power user stuff that 11 added, like a linux subsystem upgrade

[wintry crow]

oh yeah i forgot i used a program to take away all the bloat ware of 11.

maybe thats why i dont think 11 is bad LOL

[potent portal]

Well, you can use this page to create a Windows 10 install USB and it'll automate most of the stuff. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[wintry crow]

think it was "thisiswindows11" debloat or something

[wintry crow]

ty!

[potent portal]

11 version https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

The installation assistant is what you're looking for

[wintry crow]

its free right? i wont get the dumb thing in the bottom right telling me im on a trail ver or something?

[potent portal]

You might get a watermark saying to activate yeah

[wintry crow]

anyway to get around that? 🏴‍☠️ ?

[potent portal]

Officially, no

[lavish gale]

any good prebuild for 1800

[wintry crow]

what if i already have windows 11 on my current pc, i have to buy it again for a new one?

[potent portal]

If you won't be using that PC again you can transfer the license if it's a retail key

[wintry crow]

Rip, that sucks.

[wintry crow]

yes many.

[lavish gale]

how good is the Ryzen 5 3600

[potent portal]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali642/p/N82E16883360307

Top tier, 12700 and 3080

[lavish gale]

i dont know anyting about intel im more into amd

[potent portal]

Intel is currently better than AMD in both power and value

Unless you want to pay a ton extra for the new 7000 series AMD

[lavish gale]

idk bc i have a custom pc and im looking for a prebuild its not for me tho

and im more into amd and all

i legit have a i got a ryzen 7 5800x and a radeon rx 5700 xt

[potent portal]

Ryzen prebuilts are hard to find, even harder to find ones that are good

[lavish gale]

with water colling and 3tb

[potent portal]

3TB prebuilts don't exist

[lavish gale]

ik that but thats mine pc

[potent portal]

Oh right

[lavish gale]

ok look

the person im talking to hes looking at the hp omen the 25l

[potent portal]

Well that dumpster fire is the worst investment one can make besides NFTs

[lavish gale]

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-0005-01KW1?Description=hp omen 25l&cm_re=hp_omen 25l-_-9SIA8X5JFT8357-_-Product&quicklink=true

thats the link XD

[earnest olive]

this is terrible

[lavish gale]

yea im im trying to get a way better one

and im looking for recomandations

[gilded furnace]

So i joined this GC cause my monitor wouldn’t pick up the HDMI from my PC

And today I just unplugged the power supply and plugged it back in tighter

Then plugged the HDMI into the graphics card

And boom

[still roost]

Bunnyy#6957 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gilded furnace]

It popped right up

So now I gotta install windows and stuff

[lavish gale]

@potent portal is this one good https://www.newegg.com/p/3D5-000Z-000D3

[mossy venture]

No

Skytech is the literal worst

[frigid night]

16gb ram... Team T-force Vulcan Z or Silicon Power Gaming?

[mossy venture]

I'd find a build but I'm too tired rn

[mossy venture]

Whatever cheaper

[potent portal]

I linked one already

[frigid night]

Alright, that's what I was thinking. I know the timings on the team aren't as tight, but it's for daughter. Finally got mobo and cpu in so now it's time to get ram and psu

I think the team looks better for sure though plus it's a couple $ cheaper atm

[frigid night]

visually.

[potent portal]

It's disgusting how some brands still want $1800 for a 12600 and 3060 ti

When you can build a better pc for $1200

[thorny flint]

anyone got a good case and psu alternative for around $50 for this list? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/npk3jZ

[frigid night]

like.. $50 for each part? or $50 for both parts combined?

[thorny flint]

each

[frigid night]

IF the latter.. That's gonna be impossible.

alriught

I'd stick with the PSU you have in there already because it looks like it's just enough for your PC, but.. MAYBE could go with this.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bVD7YJ/asus-tuf-gaming-b-450-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-450b

it's 450, and in your price range, but if your stuff spikes.. you could experience system crashes..

[thorny flint]

yea

[thorny flint]

it was like 50 a couple weeks ago

u think it will go down?

[frigid night]

yeah I know.

[ruby arrow]

hello

[frigid night]

idk..

[potent portal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xQpmP6/thermaltake-smart-bm2-550-w-80-bronze-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-spd-0550mnfabu-1

550W C tier

Good for up to a 3060 ti I'd say

[ruby arrow]

anyone have any recommendations on cooling to go with my rig i think i might have to buy a new one my cpu keeps overheating

[potent portal]

What CPU and case do you have

[thorny flint]

so not as good as the asus one

[obsidian wigeon]

It can be bad mount

Or you forgot paste idk

[ruby arrow]

i have a i5 and a corsair 4000D

[potent portal]

Higher wattage tho

[obsidian wigeon]

what i5 lol

[potent portal]

There's literally 3 dozen i5 processors

[ruby arrow]

11500k i think

[obsidian wigeon]

11600k, okay

what cooler are you using?

[thorny flint]

so should i get this one or wait for the otehr one to go down in price

[ruby arrow]

lian li 360

mm

[obsidian wigeon]

well that's odd

you definitely didn't do something right with it

[potent portal]

You can grab the one I put up. It won't be any different than a "better" unit unless you push it really hard with higher end parts or extreme overclocking.

[ruby arrow]

i think one of the tubes has air in it

[obsidian wigeon]

have you made sure to peel the plastic sticker on the cooler cold plate before installing it?

but first i'd check pump rpm

[ruby arrow]

yeah

[potent portal]

Is the top of the radiator above the pump (in the cpu block)

[wintry crow]

thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XfCXZw

[ruby arrow]

yes

[potent portal]

Looks good to me

[wintry crow]

awesome, ty.

[obsidian wigeon]

That build looks good

[thorny flint]

ok 550w good neough then right?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[thorny flint]

also what would be a good case for around 50$

[potent portal]

You can work out air bubbles by rocking the pc side to side about 45 degrees, then forward and back, with the pump running

[ruby arrow]

i was trying that right now but it didn’t do much and my cpu overheated

[wintry crow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vYp323/cougar-mx330-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330

[potent portal]

Hmm, is there a gurgling sound?

It can take a few tries to move the bubbles and if the pump got air locked it'll just stop and/or break

[ruby arrow]

yes there’s a gurgling sound

[potent portal]

It's not air locked at least then, keep trying

[ruby arrow]

my friend told me it could be a lack of fluid

[potent portal]

It took about 15 minutes for my cooler

Lack of fluid is possible but unlikely

It would need to be really low

[ruby arrow]

jesus you were rocking around ur pc for 15 min

[potent portal]

Yes lol. It's not small either.

Larger cooler can mean more air pockets

[ruby arrow]

alr i’ll give it a shot

yes i don’t think this cooler should be in this tight of a case

[potent portal]

4000D? It can totally fit

[ruby arrow]

oh it does but just barley

[obsidian wigeon]

It can fit

[potent portal]

It's tight sure but they measure it so there's no wasted space

[ruby arrow]

i wanted to upgrade my case and cpu but i don’t feel like spending money

so have the pc running and tilt the pc?

[obsidian wigeon]

The cooler is fine, but something is going on

Ya, rock it back and forth

[ruby arrow]

while it’s on?

[obsidian wigeon]

Yep

[ruby arrow]

fasho

will i hear the noise stop right away?

[potent portal]

Liquid coolers can be scary sometimes. Just fyi a decent air cooler would work perfectly fine on an 11500.

It'll be gradual

Once it's mostly gone you can stop and let it idle for a bit. Maybe manually push it to 100% to help move things around.

[ruby arrow]

that was a good workout

jesus

how i get a pump working my pump

there’s less gurgling now

my pc keeps turning off from being too hot

still

[potent portal]

It has to be the mount then

Did you tighten a little at a time going in a diagonal pattern or just tighten down one side at a time?

[ruby arrow]

i did diagonal when i first set up the pc but i think when i took it out and put it back i did one at a time

(not diagonal)

[potent portal]

That can create uneven mounting pressure, making one side not contact properly

I'd unscrew it most of the way (so it doesn't break the thermal paste seal) and tighten each corner one turn at a time

1 3
X
4 2

[ruby arrow]

fasho

if this doesn’t work ima kms

[potent portal]

Also... I have to ask, did you remember to remove the plastic from the bottom of the cpu plate? It happens more than you think XD

[ruby arrow]

yes

my pc has been running fine for over a year up until recently

i just re screwed the pump and it’s still running high temp

it’s a bit lower but still very high

for just sitting in desktop

it was running at 90c now it’s fluctuating from 66-80

did yours sit at high temp until you let it run?

after you tilted your pc

[potent portal]

Yes mine would bounce between 55 and 70 before

Set the pump to 100% manually, it might help

[ruby arrow]

i don’t think lian li has a app to control it

atleast i never found one when i first sat up my pc

nvm i foind it

[ruby arrow]

i think the software only lets you control the led

[potent portal]

Set it in bios then

[ruby arrow]

one of tubes is really hot

the other ones fine

[weary galleon]

one tube takes hot water from coldplate to the radiator, the other tube takes cold water from radiator to pump/coldplate

[ruby arrow]

the bios already had it at max speed

[weary galleon]

can you hear the pump going?

and is hot air coming off the fans/radiator?

[ruby arrow]

yeah i can hear it and no i have the radiator as intake and it’s coming in cold

i think it’s just time for a new cooler

ts still running at 80-90

[weary galleon]

Is the radiator producing hot/warmer than ambient air though?

[ruby arrow]

no

[weary galleon]

Hmm

Pump dead maybe?

Cause if the tube is hot the coldplate has contact with the cpu, but if no heat is coming off the rad then the hot water isn't being pushed thru it

[weary galleon]

Or not fully dead cause it's making noise, but effectively broken

[potent portal]

That's a possibility, also a blockage is possible

If the flow through the cpu block is restricted due to "gunk" buildup it'll still seem to work fine but will have issues like this

[ruby arrow]

new cooler it is then

any recommendations

[potent portal]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NXPVH9D

Can't go wrong with an air cooler on midrange. Lots less parts to possibly fail.

[obsidian wigeon]

ak620 is also great

no rgb tho

but there's gk620, same thing with rgb

[potent portal]

It's only an 11500 lol
That's a tad overkill

[obsidian wigeon]

tru

[ruby arrow]

any water cooling recommendations

i have a white build

[potent portal]

There's always the galahad

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BTkWGX/lian-li-galahad-aio240-2022-6917-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ga-240a-white

If you prefer the 360 it has a link on that page too

[ruby arrow]

i have the 360 currently

do you have any recommendations so i won’t have to upgrade in a long time?

i’m thinking of upgrading my cpu later on

[potent portal]

Define a long time, because most liquid coolers have a life around 5 years max due to evaporation

Air coolers live forever

[ruby arrow]

like a couple years is fine

[obsidian wigeon]

You can replace their fans too if they die

The heatsink itself never breaks

But by then a new cooler might be needed anyway due to design changes

[potent portal]

Then that galahad 360mm model can handle some of the top current chips no problem, even if you upgrade to a 7950X or 13700k

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[ruby arrow]

guess i’m buying another lian

[potent portal]

Anything past current stuff is impossible to predict

[ruby arrow]

there’s not even any gargling anymore

i think the pump is just weak

[potent portal]

If you only had it for a year you can claim warranty on it

[ruby arrow]

do i need a receipt and the box?

[potent portal]

That varies by brand policy

[ruby arrow]

cause i think it’s a loss cost

i bought it at micro

[potent portal]

Receipt probably but they might take it based on manufacture date alone

It doesn't hurt to shoot their support a message and ask

Box is less likely to be needed

[ruby arrow]

yeah i’ll message their support then

i don’t think ima find the receipt

[ruby arrow]

@potent portal there might be a slight bit of hope left

it’s running at 55-65c

[brittle brook]

QUESTION: so my motherboard has 1 jrgb connection and 2 jrainbow connections. i plan on having 13 argb fans in the case. i know i need a rgb/argb controller for all the fans. my question is, am i able to connect the controller into the jrainbow connector on the mother board?

[analog hearth]

I think RGB controllers usually connect to one of the USB headers

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/black-montech-x3-atx-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-00CN-00036?

Looking for a budget case is this is $25 off RN

Would this be a good option?

Large amount of pre-installed fans

Door also opens instead of having to take it completely off

[mossy venture]

Cheap metal and fans are prolly loud, but it'll be fine

[obsidian wigeon]

Fans are the weak point due to how cheap the case is

But they're not too loud

[cyan ravine]

Yeah it's a montech, but also it's a montech

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[cyan ravine]

So it'll be ok

[obsidian wigeon]

Enough for something with 12100 or 12400

[cyan ravine]

[ornate condor]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZwPrLs thoughts about this ?

Ignore case . I have Hyte Y60 case but it's not listed there

[obsidian wigeon]

money go brr

it's a nice list

[ornate condor]

Missing fans tho .

Any good looking fan kit ?

[cyan ravine]

FC120's will match with the AIO

[obsidian wigeon]

lian li unifans i suppose

[cyan ravine]

Noooo

[obsidian wigeon]

since you have the budget to spend

[cyan ravine]

Not unifans

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[cyan ravine]

Unifans terrible airflow

[paper summit]

NOOO NOT THE UNIFANS

[cyan ravine]

Like actually not good

[obsidian wigeon]

there's only one bad airflow one tho

afaik

[cyan ravine]

2*

[obsidian wigeon]

oh so it's all

[ornate condor]

I can replace aio fans if it mismatches

[cyan ravine]

AL's are meh

[obsidian wigeon]

shucks

[cyan ravine]

FC120's are good fans and cheaper

And match the AIO so less to spend

Or P12 ARGB

Both are daisy chainable iirc

[ornate condor]

This one ? https://a.co/d/cNnxNGB

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[ornate condor]

Yeah it does look like exact same on aio

[obsidian wigeon]

it's deepcool again, oh no

the deepcool plague spreads

[cyan ravine]

Cultists said these are good fans so ima shill

[obsidian wigeon]

lmao

[cyan ravine]

[ornate condor]

Lol I used some of their products before its alright

[obsidian wigeon]

deepcool lives up to their name

[ornate condor]

it's hard to leave my beautiful white strix 3090 but it's time to move on

[cyan ravine]

Suprim gang

[obsidian wigeon]

a fair trade off for much more power

4090 stronk

[ornate condor]

Yeah going to 13900k + 4090

Gonna sell whole 12900k + 3090 build

If there was white strix 4090, I wouldn't replace whole build. Only cpu and gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

Even if it does it's still gonna be massive lel

Brick sized gpus

[cyan ravine]

It's gonna barely fit in mine

Cramped horizontal or vertical

[obsidian wigeon]

Only way to make 4090 fit anything is obligatory lc

Somehow 4090 fe is a little shorter than 3090 fe

Trades off with full 3 slot tho

[cyan ravine]

I'm hoping the waterblocks for these cards come with 2 slot pcie brackets tho

[obsidian wigeon]

They do

[safe canopy]

Hey all I have a question I am building a computer and am not sure what motherboard to go with. I was wondering if you all would have a recommendation.

[cyan ravine]

I'm glad cos otherwise some mounts won't work vertically

[obsidian wigeon]

Is this whole new build?

Or have you already bought the cpu

[safe canopy]

Yes I just got the case and have a graphics card RTX 2080

[ornate condor]

12400f + b660 gang

[obsidian wigeon]

Hm, if no cpu and mobo

13600K maybe

But 12400f is plenty fine

[ornate condor]

great gaming cpu tho

13600k is new budget gaming king

Untill 13400 comes out probably

[cyan ravine]

12400F or 5600

How much to spend?

[safe canopy]

Hmm alright I'll have to look into these thabk you guys

[mossy venture]

For 12400f, if you need wifi, b660 aorus pro ax

Pro vdh wifi for 5600

[cyan ravine]

Or otherwise prime b450m-A ii for no wifi 5600

Or b660m ds3h/msi pro b660m-a for 12400f

[safe canopy]

Oh that would be the wifi adapter right?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

[mossy venture]

It comes with a wifi card

[safe canopy]

Is it better to have the wifi 🤔 sorry still new to it all 😅

[mossy venture]

If you don't plan to use ethernet

You need a wifi board

[safe canopy]

Oh ok thay would make sense! Definitely would need that

[mossy venture]

Well, could also buy a separate adapter

But better to just get the wifi

Cheaper and a lot of the time better

[safe canopy]

Alright thank you

[little osprey]

Good enough for me

I've had to deal with cheap Xbox power cords for almost a decade, those things are always rattling and making a ruckus

For it being a $90 case and $25 off, that's good enough for me

[ruby arrow]

@potent portal i contacted them and they said i can claim warranty😃

[potent portal]

Awesome

[mossy venture]

https://chromeunboxed.com/lenovos-ideapad-5i-gaming-chromebook-is-now-available-for-only-399/ LMAO

[analog pulsar]

which one do i download again

[mossy venture]

They actually did it

[analog pulsar]

RGB YASSSSSSSSS

[potent portal]

Optional (top) is the latest. The other is 5 months old.

Older, certified versions are good for troubleshooting

[analog pulsar]

Which one would work better and not crash

[potent portal]

If you're having issues on the latest go for the certified version, unless you play games that launched after that release date

[analog pulsar]

okay

[analog pulsar]

okay cpu, chipset, gpu drivers all installed am i missing anything

[eternal fern]

Hey, im rebuilding like half of my pc and I need some help with a small issue. I'm building in a o11d (ikik stereotypical) and have a 360 rad AIO that imma put in the vertical slot in the back but honestly lost as to how to have the pump at highest point. anyone have an idea?

[leaden mauve]

you shouldnt have the pump at the highest point in the loop

You'll be completely fine mounting it the normal way, either tubes up or down. wouldnt really make a difference

[eternal fern]

Dope, thanks

[weary galleon]

this should be false advertising

although I will say visually it looks pretty nice

[little osprey]

Does it just run GeForce Now?

[mossy venture]

it certainly runs

[little osprey]

Does it have a iGPU or dedicated GPU?

[mossy venture]

it certainly has graphics

nah but it has an igpu

[little osprey]

SMH

Well, I'm in a situation RN and I'm trying to debate if I wanna get all my parts off Amazon or Newegg

I could save a few bucks if I do Newegg, but slower shipping

Or get my parts faster with Amazon

[mossy venture]

on your budget, save the few bucks

[little osprey]

Well another thing I forgot to mention is that I got a Amazon Prime free trial

So I dunno if I wanna make use of that

[mossy venture]

id still just go for the cheapest option

[paper summit]

Hmmm yea

Stuff is usually more expensive on amazon

[little osprey]

The only think I'd be saving a major amount on is the case which is $25 off RN on Newgg, other than that the RAM is just $1 more on Amazon compared to Amazon

I'll check my PC part list and see what the cheapest options are for my parts RQ

[paper summit]

Shipping is prob free right?

[little osprey]

For both Amazon and Newegg for me yes

Also I got it mixed up

The RAM is $1 cheaper on Amazon than Newegg

The CPU and motherboard are the same prices on both websites

[paper summit]

Also motherboards

With amazon u can get it for cheaper by buying "used" exelent condition

Cause thats how i got mine and it was still sealed

Saved 50 bucks

[little osprey]

Well I mean the board I'm going with is $120

IG the PSU is the same price on both websites as well

I'd only save money if I bought the case on Newegg, but at least it's free shipping

[paper summit]

Id just save the money and wait the exta day or 2

With newegg

Its up to u

Im inpatient and spent more than i should have to get my parts next day💀

[little osprey]

Well I could get the case on Newegg and the rest on Amazon, but that kinda seems weird

[little osprey]

Same

Well I'm gonna order the parts tonight, so we'll see

I returned my Nari yesterday, or at least gave it to UPS, so I dunno how long it's gonna take to get a refund

[paper summit]

Yea shouldn't take long idk why u didnt get the refund yet

Did u ask for a refund directly to ur card or amazon cred

[little osprey]

Amazon credit

I think

[paper summit]

Oh weird sometimes they have to check the package and make sure its actually there depends tho

Glad your getting ur pc tho have fun

[little osprey]

I used a dinky box and paper towels for padding 💀

[paper summit]

Lmaoooo

Thats great

[little osprey]

I'm really excited

This has went better than I expected

Mainly because of everyone's help here

[paper summit]

Yea the people here are a big help unlike some servers

(Ltt)

💀

[little osprey]

I think I tried joining it, there was absolutely nothing about helping people building their PC

I walked into this server knowing absolutely nothing about PC building and prices

But that has definitely changed by now

Anyways I got a math test, I'll be back

[paper summit]

Yea asked about a gpu and couldn't get a straight answer

Everyone had there own opinions lol

[paper summit]

Ight cya good luck lol

[leaden mauve]

actual crappy server

[paper summit]

Real

Half the time people ignored me

[leaden mauve]

its not even that, a lot of the people there are just not very knowledgeable and a certain mod that i wont name is a clown

i totally didnt get muted for no reason before pfftttt naww

[paper summit]

Only time i got replied to was when i posted this 💀

[paper summit]

Lmaoo

[little osprey]

I gave up, I suck at multiple step cross multiplying

[paper summit]

💀

Rip your average

[little osprey]

I got a C in this class, praying I'll stay above an F

I just need to pass

[paper summit]

Oh💀

Uh how many equations did u answer

[little osprey]

One

Or two

I dunno

I hate algebra

I'll do a retake after I study