building-and-recc-chat

[cold turtle]

Asus has more better quality of screen (OLED + 1800p) but 8 gb of RAM, unfortunately

[static crown]

That looks like a good choice. performance is definitely more important than RGB. Plus tastefully added is a much better idea

[stoic island]

Assuming Germany, is amazon.de an option?

alternate can be nice but amazon usually has more offerings

[cold turtle]

but Acer also has a good screen with IPS rather than OLED, also 1440p quality, plus 90 hz refresh rate, 16 gbs of RAM

[mossy venture]

If you're gaming, you dont want 1800p

Or 1440p for the matter

Oh nvm

Misread

[cold turtle]

Euros perhaps

[mossy venture]

Theyre asking if you're in a place that uses euros

Which the answer to that is yes I'd assume

[little osprey]

Alright, I was just a bit confused, but yeah, like @stoic island said, Amazon would be a good option too because of more options

[cold turtle]

I do not really mind the place, but alternate also offers monthly installements rather than full payment, which is a must for me

[stoic island]

alright

[little osprey]

Pretty sure there's some Amazon products that do that as well

But not all

[cold turtle]

it does not necesarrily have to be alternate, I just sent the links for specs and comparison

[cold turtle]

well, I have not seen this actually

[little osprey]

Fair enough

[stoic island]

The thing with the Asus laptop is just that 16:10 and that resolution might not work well with some media

[little osprey]

I don't know if it changes for different examples, but I'll grab an example

[cold turtle]

for now, the most important part is to have one specific model xd, then I will search for the best deals

[cold turtle]

sure

[cold turtle]

I did not know it really

[static crown]

Thank you so much for your help! I'll get this board and a DAC

[cold turtle]

please free to @ or DM me if you have recommendations

[little osprey]

I couldn't find it for any gaming laptops, but I'm very certain they do monthly installments for certain things

[cold turtle]

I will check regularly, but I still have no brand or model in my mind xd

[little osprey]

Model > Brand

[stoic island]

I mean most media should be fine but it might mean in smth like videos it could just have black bars or it stretches a 16:9 image to fit on a 16:10 screen

[cold turtle]

by the way, I have forgotten to say that I will also do coding and possibly virtualization

[cold turtle]

thank you for the details, I believe this would not be so annoying

[static crown]

I suppose technically I didn't answer your question about budget. Are there any advantages to go up in budget?

[stoic island]

I was just checking if you had a budget restraint, you really don't get much for spending over say 200$ on a motherboard, it's all niche features beyond that, overclocking stuff mainly, or extra io or something of that sort.

[static crown]

Cool... Yeah no plans of overclocking or anything like that. Thank you much!

[earnest olive]

2010s: gotta buy a nice motherboard and K cpu to overclock my cpu
2020s: gotta buy a nice motherboard and K cpu to undervolt my cpu

[white osprey]

Can someone help me? My computer keeps restarting by itself. The first time I turned it on it worked normally for about a minute, now it just keeps restarting, doesn’t even make it to the windows screen

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657753562247462922/1029541809510154311/B7F2C1B3-9476-44D4-8E8E-70266FF2EE83.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657753562247462922/1029895149372850208/A80E0156-1782-429E-954C-750507E148FE.jpg

That is my boot sequence if that matters

I have 1ssd and 1 hdd

[toxic wraith]

what are some good aios? i cant find a good lf2 360mm b stock

[stoic island]

Wdym

[frigid night]

Have you tried reinstalling windows?

[stoic island]

Arctic official store on eBay for b stock

[white osprey]

@frigid night no, was hoping the issue was much simpler, reinstalling windows sounds very inconvenient

[frigid night]

would have been faster than the last 2 days of you waiting for someone to respond.

I'd say that is more inconvenient

[toxic wraith]

where

[stoic island]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/354077186811

[toxic wraith]

Uh i meant a-rgb

sorry

[white osprey]

@frigid night was busy so it was ok 👍. I’ll give reinstalling windows a try, just don’t get why it would randomly completely stop working

[toxic wraith]

I don’t see a 360mm version though

[stoic island]

Prob too popular

[upper ore]

Anyone got any suggestions for some good DDR4 ram that is pretty fast that wont break the bank? If not i might just go with some Trident Z's. Like are the Corsair Vengeance worth it?

[strong raft]

G.skill RipJaws, or various others like silicon power if wanting to maybe some.some money. LPX vengeance is kinda* junk.

[toxic wraith]

If u want rgb I went for teamgroup

[upper ore]

So yes and no i have a color scheme im going for

But most things now have RGB anyways

[toxic wraith]

not the budget ones

[brittle tinsel]

Is there a fix for vga debug choosing when to cause issues? Sometimes it won’t boot and shows vga debug led. Then like just now, booted without issue, but it got vga debug last night when I tried to update and shutdown

[upper ore]

I would like to clarify this is not a budget build. But i dont want to speed 200+ on ram lol

[brittle tinsel]

It may also be worth noting that the gpu is my old gpu that went through hell and is barely hanging on by a thread

[toxic wraith]

i mean teamgroup is a rpetty good option imo

[upper ore]

Alright ill look into them and start comparing with others.

[toxic wraith]

are there any other good aio's other than the lf 2

[mossy venture]

Get a 32gb teamgroup 3200c16 or 3600c18 kit, depending on cpu

[mossy venture]

Lian li galahad, EK aio

Deep cool ls720 I believe yhe model name is

[paper summit]

Yes good

Great looking aio too

[little osprey]

what are some cool accessories to use

[obsidian wigeon]

What do you mean by the accessories?

[cyan ravine]

Less is more, simplistic design and less peripherals decorating either your desk or case imo gets a lot more rep

Simple, but effective

A nice simple desk mat, good keyboard, good mouse, maybe a headset stand, that's it

Vertical gpu mount if you like that sort of thing, maybe a cheap raspberry pi screen in the case for hardware monitoring

[upper ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CZ3gXL/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-34-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000651wof

[toxic wraith]

3600 cl18

lian li galahad or deepcool ls720

[cyan ravine]

Because the extra cache on that one means the cpu doesn't really scale *FCLK with better ram, you don't need to nitpick the ram too much

You can get better kits but it's much less of a difference vs. regular Ryzen, so yeah, any of the cheaper team group kits are fine (for rgb) or silicon power

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7RYcf/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tf3d432g3600hc18jdc01
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/B8QcCJ/silicon-power-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp032gxlzu320bdaj7

[toxic wraith]

help

[cyan ravine]

Which cpu? If LGA 1700, LS720, otherwise, whichever is cheaper

[toxic wraith]

12600k

[cyan ravine]

Yeah LS720

[toxic wraith]

im not trying to change the decision but i just wonder why that ones better

[cyan ravine]

I forget why but there was something about galahad that doesn't pair it to the best result on 12th gen

[toxic wraith]

oh

makes sense

thanks

[cyan ravine]

Yeah

It's otherwise really good

[toxic wraith]

thank you

[cyan ravine]

Np

[frigid night]

Galahad better than Arctic on my 12600k.

[frigid night]

ime the Galahad performs slightly better than the Arctic on my 12600k. Idk about the Deepcool, but I will say that if going 360, All 3 will be more than enough so it doesn't really matter. For example.. I'm OCed at 5.3 perf / 4.1 efficient and under a full load neither of the first mentioned AIO allow my cpu to get over 90c at full load.

I'd say get whichever one fits your budget/style more

[toxic wraith]

ill go with either tbh the galahad is cheaper tho https://www.ebay.com/itm/165404625762? https://www.ebay.com/itm/234734877317?

[frigid night]

I personally would buy the AIO brand new so you have warranty

AIO are one of the parts you want a warranty on

[toxic wraith]

what are some other

[frigid night]

Arctic/ EK / Galahad / LS720

[toxic wraith]

i mean what are some other parts that you would want a warranty on my bad

[frigid night]

Ideally, all of them, but I've seen RAM / mobo / AIO have the most issues out of the box.

[frigid night]

nah my bad, I just woke up.

[toxic wraith]

i should go to bed its 2:28 idk what im doing anymore

[frigid night]

West coast life <3. I'm a night shifter so that's why I got up

[toxic wraith]

i cant focus properly im incredibly sleep deprived

[toxic wraith]

ah i see

[frigid night]

I get it. Can always get some sleep and come back here tomorrow.

[toxic wraith]

I'm glued to screens its physically impossible

[frigid night]

I feel that

Apex has been my addiction again here lately

[toxic wraith]

i wasnt planning on getting a used/open box ram or mobo anyways

[frigid night]

I think I've spent close to $200 on cosmetic stuff the last 3 days

[toxic wraith]

im playing on laptop and i run apex lowest settings lowest resolution at 2 frames W

[frigid night]

sheesh

[toxic wraith]

smooth as butter

[frigid night]

I play on max and hit my 165hz 1440p refresh rate lol

idk how high it really is because the game seems to lock it to the refresh rate of the monitor.

[toxic wraith]

im finally getting a pc soon tho 😭

[frigid night]

[toxic wraith]

you should look into it im pretty sure if u have higher frames it'll lower input lag by a ton but if u set it to unlimited screen tearing can happen :(

Im pretty sure

[frigid night]

I don't have any settings that would be limiting that.

my pc settings are fine tuned, and the setting in the game is off.

[toxic wraith]

oh alr

anyways this is what my build is looking like right now im planning on getting like a 7700xt or 7800 xt https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yyGq9r

ive been told that i should prob change my ssd but idk what to change it to

[frigid night]

can change it to the mp34 since it's actually cheaper atm

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CYwypg/teamgroup-mp34-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4002t0c101

[toxic wraith]

oh fr?

[frigid night]

yeah

that's what I use for my game SSD

otherwise I have a Hynix p31

but that's on the spendy side

[toxic wraith]

the cover is just a rock 🗿

[frigid night]

Also, if you have any issues with AMD on your PC... like random lags that make games unplayable.. I'd suggest going Nvidia.

I had issues with 2 6950xt gpus

that I had to go back to nvidia

[toxic wraith]

nvidia is too overprices i might wait for the 4080 or 4070 to drop and hope for a lowered price

or i may just wait for black friday or cyber monday

cuz saving money is pretty cool

[frigid night]

yeah saving money on my purchases allows me to spend more money on more purchases xD

[toxic wraith]

Ong

im spending a lil bit of money on strimer plus v2

[frigid night]

just remember though, that parts on sale today, may not be on sale tomorrow.

[frigid night]

waiting for mine in the mail

[toxic wraith]

that goes for everything

[frigid night]

aye, but PC parts are like the flashiest sales I've ever seen

[toxic wraith]

So theres a big variety of options to choose from i have time

[frigid night]

like sale for only an hour kind of thing lol

[toxic wraith]

well yeah but usually when theres a sale its usually like normal price but its labeled as a sale

[frigid night]

On a lot of things yeah. If you come across something just ask about it with a link in #tech-deals-discussion and someone can let you know if it's a good deal or if there is something better price:perf

[toxic wraith]

whats an lg 1700 bracket

[frigid night]

that's the bracket used to attach the pump to your mobo

LGA 1700 is the socket 12th/13th gen uses

[toxic wraith]

oh so the added bracket would be better

[frigid night]

yes. You'll want the bracket or you won't be able to attach your AIO

[toxic wraith]

niceee its cheaper for some reason

would be it be more of a hassle to get a 12600k than a 12600kf

[frigid night]

for a few bucks more, I find the K model better for me than the KF

[toxic wraith]

they are the exact same price

[cyan ravine]

Pato's suggestion not mine

[frigid night]

I use the igpu for my sensor panel as well as diagnosing visual issues.

[frigid night]

Go for the K then

[toxic wraith]

what does a sensor panel do?

sorry im kind of a noob

[frigid night]

in a game. I'll show pic in a bit

[strong raft]

Just a way to not have afterburner osd stuff* on the main screen imo. After a while I ignore osd, but haven't turned it off.

[toxic wraith]

Ah

[toxic wraith]

oh

[frigid night]

It can be more than that, but essentially yeah.

[toxic wraith]

so basically the stats of the pc

or something like that

[frigid night]

Yeah, but you can do much more with it.

[toxic wraith]

i see

so its kinda like a mini monitor

in a sense

?

[frigid night]

it's exactly that

[toxic wraith]

ur pc looks so nice

too bad i cant do that

[frigid night]

It's not quite done. I'm still on the lookout for a good White GPU

[toxic wraith]

woah

the gpu has a small panel

or is that seperate

[frigid night]

I had the most beautiful looking white GPU, but AMD didn't react well with my system for some reason

[frigid night]

It's part of the GPU. Has a few different features it can do.

[toxic wraith]

damn thats sick

[fossil cedar]

PAINT IT

[toxic wraith]

SPRAY PAINT

[frigid night]

VOID WARRANTY

on a brand new card lol

[fossil cedar]

Nooo

Dbrand needed

[frigid night]

I'm waiting for it to go out before warranty is up when all the other 3080s are out of stock so they upgrade me to 40 series xD

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[cyan ravine]

Watch it never die even in the most ridiculous abuse

You're asking for that karma

[frigid night]

hehe

It does like to run hot.

I'd be really surprised

[toxic wraith]

bro i need to sleep

[frigid night]

go sleep lol

[toxic wraith]

Impossible

Im stuck reading chainsaw man manga

[cyan ravine]

You're forgiven

[toxic wraith]

Thank you

[cyan ravine]

That series is awesome

[toxic wraith]

i just started a few hours ago and im already on chapter 50

and its 3:34

I'm addicted

[gentle pollen]

Finally ordered my Fractal Torrent case

Now I just gotta wait for it to arrive.

[jagged ember]

Good case

[gentle pollen]

Thanks.

Unfortunately it's gonna take 2-4 weeks to arrive. Same goes for the P14s.

[potent portal]

It doesn't typically take that long unless it's backordered or coming from out of the country. They just say that for the worst case scenario.

[vital pelican]

hey, im starting off with my first build and am wondering if i can bet on making it far with thishttps://newegg.io/4ab6ad5

US, $1600

the most demanding thing ill be playing is heavily modded arma

[mossy venture]

Budget and country?

And what do you need included in the budget?

[vital pelican]

all edit

ill*

[potent portal]

Looks like $1200 plus monitor

[vital pelican]

there we go

[potent portal]

This works better for finding deals too https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[mossy venture]

$1600 gets you 5700x and 3080

[potent portal]

Easily

[vital pelican]

man i forgot about this website,

[mossy venture]

Do you care about looks and do you need wifi?

[vital pelican]

i dont care for looks but yeah dont have ethernet

[mossy venture]

Oh wait, 1600 for tower or tower plus monitor

[vital pelican]

tower + monitor

[mossy venture]

Kk one sec

And do you care about amd or nvidia gpu?

[vital pelican]

not really

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8gB9r

Unsure on mobo choice, fal might have a better suggestion for that

@vital pelican

[vital pelican]

oh wow thanks let me look it over

[mossy venture]

Could drop to a 6800xt phantom gaming oc if you want it a bit cheaper

Would still do great

[vital pelican]

nah thats perfect pricing

[mossy venture]

Would be fine with a 750w psu too

As long as it's a decent model ofc

Gtg for like 5-10min

[vital pelican]

alright]

[vital pelican]

wait did this link work?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c8gB9r so would i be looking at better performance with this build?

[mossy venture]

The link isn't working for me no

Or newegg mobile app is down idk

[vital pelican]

oh

[potent portal]

It worked for me on pc

It doesn't on mobile

[mossy venture]

Ah

[potent portal]

Another option to consider https://pcpartpicker.com/list/92dHQ6

[mossy venture]

Ak620 complete overkill for a 5600 tho

Pa120 se is $35 and nearly as good on am4

[potent portal]

Yes can go cheaper on that, I started with a 12600k build and forgot to swap it lol

[mossy venture]

I am a d.f shill though

[potent portal]

Yeah it's pretty consistently good, only very minor edge case issues

[mossy venture]

I hesitatantly trust tt, only because cultists do

[vital pelican]

https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/md/45462611

man how do you share

[mossy venture]

Just plug the parts into pcpartpicker

[vital pelican]

oh

[mossy venture]

Tho I can confidently say falcies list is likely better

[potent portal]

I wouldn't say "better" objectively speaking just different options to consider, like $5 more on the memory to get rgb

[mossy venture]

Fal is your name pronounced fal chee or fal see

If always thought chee

[potent portal]

See

Not a lot of people played FFXIII so I don't blame you for not knowing lol

[mossy venture]

Never played a single ff game

[potent portal]

Do you at least know why it's called final fantasy?

[mossy venture]

I mean, I know what you do in the games

But that's about it

[potent portal]

Ah, well the funny story is that Square (now Square Enix) was dying out not selling many games and this was their final attempt for the small studio's dream. It obviously caught on lol.

[vital pelican]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fYvjhk

i accidentally cleared my cart

this is whati rememebred @mossy venture

[potent portal]

It's better to get the non-x and use the savings for 3600 memory. AMD likes that extra speed for faster infinity fabric.

Besides in gaming the non-x 5600 is nearly identical

[vital pelican]

alright

i think ill go with your build though to be honest

i feel its better

[potent portal]

Definitely. The 3060 you had doesn't even come close to the 6900xt and you get a good 1440p monitor out of it too

Here I fixed the cooler https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HcJy9r

[mossy venture]

Both fals and mine are a good bit better

[little osprey]

yo, i changed the ram mhz in bios to 3600 by accident when i had meant 3200
my pc wont boot now and is stuck on a black screen
the rgb lights up but no display
what should i do

[potent portal]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000025368/processors.html

[mossy venture]

Take out the cmos battery, wait 30 seconds, put it back in

I believe it's 30 seconds anyways

15?

[potent portal]

15 is for the reset jumper/button

[little osprey]

where would i find the cmos battery on the mb? im using gigabyte b550i

[mossy venture]

It's the little silver circle on the mobo with a black and red wire coming off of it

You'll need something thin to wedge it out

If you're stupid like me, I used a Swiss army knife. Wouldn't recommend that

[potent portal]

It's hiding on that board

Probably under the heatsink on the left

[mossy venture]

Ah

Yeah its behind one of the heatsinks

According to Google

[potent portal]

There is a jumper, probably easier

[mossy venture]

Not sure which

Ye

[little osprey]

how do i jump it?

[potent portal]

.

[little osprey]

mb

[potent portal]

It usually embeds to say what the page is but discord being discord today

It says intel but it applies to all

[little osprey]

its saying i need to power off my pc
when i try to press the pc power button nothing happens and it stays on

[potent portal]

Hold the power button

[mossy venture]

Hold the power button

Wowww fal

[potent portal]

Jinx

[mossy venture]

Can't believe you

[frank stirrup]

Hold the power button

[mossy venture]

L

[little osprey]

ty it turned off

[frank stirrup]

(im using internet explorer)

[mossy venture]

W

[potent portal]

Ah internet exploder, fun

[mossy venture]

Internet explorer>

[mossy venture]

If gigglebyte made a browser

[little osprey]

sorry im a bit confused, if the cmos is underneath the heatsink how do i access it to jump it

[cyan ravine]

Sometimes they stick those batteries in terrible places

[potent portal]

You have a jumper next to the audio header

[little osprey]

from what ive read the cmos pins should have a housing jumper

mine doesnt? the pins are exposed

[potent portal]

Just touch the pins with something metal

Only 3 pin jumper headers come with a piece to jump them, so it has a "normal" and "clear" mode

[little osprey]

ah i see

would a screwdriver work?

[potent portal]

Yep as long as it's not coated in something

[little osprey]

alright, i just want to make sure
the screwdriver should be touching both the pins? or just 1

[potent portal]

Both

[little osprey]

and do i do this for 30 seconds aswell?

[potent portal]

That creates a short circuit that drains the power from the memory cells

Jumpers are usually good with 10 seconds

[strong raft]

Remember psu unplugged or switched off for this.

[potent portal]

It may take a couple tries

[little osprey]

yep i switched it off and unplugged it

[potent portal]

With jumpers and buttons you sometimes want it plugged in actually so it's still grounded, but that varies by motherboard

This specific board doesn't specify so unplugged ig

What I'm referring to btw, on page 20 of the manual

[little osprey]

it didnt work

im confused

[potent portal]

Try plugged in with the psu switched off

It might take a couple times still

[little osprey]

alright

wtf

im holding the power button down and its just blinking

[potent portal]

Yeah there's a bit of charge left in the capacitors

[little osprey]

solution?

[potent portal]

psu is on now?

[little osprey]

the pc is lit up and lights are on

im trying to shut it off by holding down the power button

and its just blinking

[potent portal]

Oh, just switch it off

[little osprey]

you sure? that wont brick anything right

[potent portal]

Nah it's fine

[little osprey]

praying ur right

[potent portal]

That was a concern like 10 years ago but hardware has advanced a lot lol

[little osprey]

lmao ok

tried it again plugged in psu off still nothing

multiple times

[potent portal]

Try something else to touch the pins, sometimes there's a clear coating on screwdrivers

I find knives work but be careful

[little osprey]

alright

[potent portal]

If it still doesn't work you can unplug the battery from it's cable, it's under the heatsink next to the lower USB ports

[little osprey]

!!!

i tried it one more time with a screwdriver psu on plugged in pc off

[little osprey]

it worked

[potent portal]

Ah good

[little osprey]

tysm man

[potent portal]

Happy to help

[mossy venture]

me when- me when y- your mom when i- me wh- you wh-

[leaden mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-key-and-peele-substitute-teacher-did-i-stutter-school-gif-5417164

[little osprey]

Debating between a 12100F or a 10100F

I really wanna get my PC up and running by the end of this month

But money is gonna be an issue since I'm on a tight budget

[cyan ravine]

12100F easily if both are similar price

[little osprey]

Nope

[cyan ravine]

OR

5600 + b450m-A II

[little osprey]

Does that board have wifi?

[cyan ravine]

Doesn't

Rip

[little osprey]

Yeah, can't do that

Plus the CPU doesn't have an iGPU, and I could get the regular 12100 at that price

[cyan ravine]

Ah igpu

Don't get the basic video builds often here lol

[little osprey]

Well, I've been on iGPU's basically all my life on the very few laptops I've used

I wanna be able to play my games on low graphics until I get my GPU

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough

[little osprey]

But I can go with the F variant if that's the case

[cyan ravine]

Nah it's justified

[little osprey]

I just dunno if the down grade to a 10100 from the 12100 (My initial plan) is gonna be worth it

[mossy venture]

wb 10400

should be 120

[little osprey]

Hm?

[cyan ravine]

Ye 10400 is in this bracket too

6 core brrrr

[little osprey]

10400F is $133 brand new

[mossy venture]

ah 10400 went up

sad

[little osprey]

Yeah

I dunno

Kinda why I came here to ask

I'm unsure if the downgrade is worth it

Thought it's not like a 1070 is gonna care

[mossy venture]

10100 is 106 new though, which is terribly priced

[cyan ravine]

If 1070 is all you're using then you could go used and save a buck or two

[mossy venture]

I'd suggest a 10400 used

or 5600g

[little osprey]

Well, I'm probably gonna go with an F one since it's gonna save me money

5600G has an iGPU

[mossy venture]

ah thought you needed igpu

[little osprey]

I would prefer one

However not a necessity, but thank you

[toxic wraith]

Hi!

[little osprey]

@mossy venture, I need a back up option if I can't afford the parts, would you know a good board with wifi that would work with 10th generation Intel CPU's?

[mossy venture]

any b560 with wifi

[little osprey]

I think this is the cheapest board with wifi

[toxic wraith]

i dunno if this is good but https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157977?

why is it so long

[vital pelican]

i just noticed

this is a real big bottleneck no?

[mossy venture]

wdym

5600 with 6900xt?

[vital pelican]

yeah

im not too well versed but i just gave it another lock and saw a price difference of several hundred dollars

[mossy venture]

it's more than fine

you normally want to be spending more on gpu

for gaming anyways

[vital pelican]

so is there a bottle neck present?

[mossy venture]

yes, but its impossible for there not to be

you'd have to compare the 5600 to the 5800x3d to see a noticeable difference

[vital pelican]

oh i see

so ill keep it and just upgrade later

[potent portal]

Every computer has a bottleneck. It can be a lot of things. GPU, CPU, RAM, even the game engine itself. It's literally impossible for there to be no bottleneck or else you'd get infinite fps.

Best practice is to aim for 100% GPU usage in your favorite games. The 5600 can support that with rare exceptions, mostly not hardware related.

[vital pelican]

hmm alright

worst case comes to worse i can upgrade

[potent portal]

You shouldn't need to unless you're playing at 1080p low settings. Even 1080p high becomes GPU limited usually.

[vital pelican]

alright, thanks for the help

[fair stag]

What do you think? https://newegg.io/ec349cc.

Pretty new to this, and I actually have a zotac 3090 trinity gpu

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/szLcFg

actually wait

one min

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BcspRv there

[fair stag]

That’s cheaper for sure, I want a bigger monitor though. 😁

[mossy venture]

g32q

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MXfnTW/gigabyte-m32q-315-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m32q

m32q*

[little osprey]

yo im trying to install drivers for my new pc and they are going onto my pc but they aren’t actually downloading
my motherboard (gigabyte b550i aurous pro) has onboard wifi and a wifi adapter yet when i try to install the wifi drivers the gigabyte driver installer just closes and doesnt give any messages
none of the drivers do anything apart from the bluetooth driver for some reason
any tips?

[woven horizon]

Is windows update not grabbing the correct drivers?

[analog hearth]

you'd still need GPU drivers and other stuff. Windows doesn't take care of that kind of stuff

[zenith cargo]

Guys if I have an Nvidia gpu and i want to upgrade to an AMD gpu, do i need to replace anything on my computer?

[mossy venture]

!ddu

[still roost]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[analog pulsar]

@potent portal what would I need to run a game server? Would I need mid cpu or something like if I wanna run multiple game servers

Like I have i3 we thought about running minecraft server and satisfactory server on it

[potent portal]

It depends on the game but I don't think either of those is too demanding until you put hundreds of mods in.
You definitely need lots of RAM if you're going to be using a Minecraft world for a long time. Here's the minimum for a new Minecraft world, note it'll use a little more resources the more chunks you explore.

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Server/Requirements/Dedicated

Note that you can make do with even an ancient Pentium. A modern i3 would be fine.

Satisfactory is a fair bit more demanding, requiring a Ryzen 3600 or modern i3 minimum and another 16GB of RAM just for the server and 4 players. https://satisfactory.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

With people playing on both at the same time with mods I'd consider an i7 8700 (12 threads) or a Ryzen 5600, with 64GB of RAM. Note that both servers prefer higher single core speed. You could technically do it with an i3 12100 but not with more than a couple players on either server.

[wheat coral]

@wheat olive tip with your 4000D

dont run your gpu cables like that

theres a cutout right here for them

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/597869539186835483/1021228019739787294/0695C538-C505-4ACA-8DF1-50909D3343A2.jpg?width=810&height=1080

allows you to sneak away withs tuff like that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/597869539186835483/1021214916629254265/19931BA9-511F-477B-B3CE-946614E7932A.jpg

lot easer to do

[toxic wraith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GF7XZw any improvements that can be made around the same price? (i cant change the case)

[obsidian wigeon]

nothing really

[frigid night]

Dang. Throws money at a 12900k and only gets a 3050.

[cyan ravine]

I hope that's a 280 aio

[frigid night]

OOF if not lol

[fossil cedar]

Well 1st thing I'd do is wait 4 days and get the 13600kf

And I'd change aio etc

[fossil cedar]

Do you want to overclock?

[cyan ravine]

Pato

What was the reason again for swapping galahad

I forgot

The thing with 12th gen

[fossil cedar]

Galahad is fine but they where shipping lga1700 brackets from china with like 1 month of so wait, probably fine now but idk especially since that's the old model not with unifans

Also prevents using matching fans

[cyan ravine]

The old model with ST fans is actually better tho lol

Unifans le succ

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[frigid night]

I wonder.. that might explain the flimsy feeling bracket mine came with.

Thats why I went with using the Arctic bracket

[frigid night]

wait, they were shipping just the bracket and it was taking that long? Or they were shipping the whole unit?

Mine came with the bracket, but got mine from BH.

[fossil cedar]

If you don't wanna oc (can go ak620 instead but seems you want aio)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QzH4jZ
If you wanna oc
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ckbk78

[fossil cedar]

Just bracket iirc but did you get unifan or no unifan version?

[frigid night]

I got the ST fans

[cyan ravine]

Deepcool

[frigid night]

What is so great about the deepcool? lol

[cyan ravine]

Also btw adata swordfish is cheaper ssd @fossil cedar

129 or smthn iirc

[cyan ravine]

The cooler is actually stupid good on lga1700

It has a really good pump, does it a lot of justice

[frigid night]

I see. The coldplate makes really good contact too then?

[cyan ravine]

Ye

And it's priced nicely for having an infinity mirror and rgb

[frigid night]

nice. If I didn't already have 2 360 aio, I'd nab it. Although, does it come in white?

[cyan ravine]

It does

[frigid night]

I was totally looking into making an infinity mirror for the front of my case.

[cyan ravine]

Is it worth over what you already have? No

[frigid night]

I found a really good vid on reddit where some guy made one that you can still see into the PC, but it has the infinity effect. it's dope.

[cyan ravine]

I think there's an inwin case with an infinity mirror

There's also that tetris one lol

[frigid night]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/og9ssy/i_built_a_holographiclike_infinity_mirror_in_my_pc/

yeah but making one is pretty cheap.

[cyan ravine]

Pretty neat

I don't have any rgb to make something like that worth it now tho lol

[frigid night]

yeah, I was looking at how my case is and I have room to put one as a side panel as well.

It's just a thought for my atm.

I'd rather switch to 13th gen and custom loop first.

[cyan ravine]

Custom if you go i9 or i7 I hope

[frigid night]

Of course my love.

[cyan ravine]

Good

This pleases my brain

[frigid night]

😛

i9 may be real soon.

[cyan ravine]

Mine ships on the 20th iirc

[frigid night]

noice.

I'm still kind of waiting for my taxes. I'm really hoping they post soon

[cyan ravine]

I'm thinking of retiring the 10850K and moving the 5900X into that

[frigid night]

quick Q on custom loop. Does it matter which way the flow is? I mean like.. CPU > GPU or vice versa?

[cyan ravine]

Might also just put the 5900X into a new build and sell it tho using spares

Not really no

[frigid night]

I would probably build another pc for the 12600k and sell it.

or maybe just keep it as a backup just in case.

[cyan ravine]

You might get a 1C or 2C variation on different parts of the loop but it shouldn't be dramatic

[frigid night]

I see ok

EK website said my temps would be 27c under load?

or is that unrealistic?

[cyan ravine]

No

Lol

That I would invest in myself if it were true

50C-ish is more realistic

[frigid night]

that's awesome. Even on GPU?

[cyan ravine]

Depends on how good your mount is ofc

Ye

CPU likely won't always stay that low but you'll see a good few C in the gpu (or at least more boost)

Would also consider heatkiller btw

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but mp34 better

[cyan ravine]

Talk to Hay for recommendations, not as much my field but I know EK isn't the first choice here

[cyan ravine]

I'll make you better in a second

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ayyoooo-ayoo-ayyoo-gif-24286843

[frigid night]

heatkiller?

I'm open to any suggestions of where to go to get the stuff I need. EK is like $1.2k for a whole loop.

that includes the RAM

[frigid night]

Just seen this. OK

[cyan ravine]

Don't waterloop your ram unless you do like, serious serious overclocking

Not worth it

[frigid night]

I do currently push 4000c16 on a 3200 kit

[cyan ravine]

Not serious enough

[frigid night]

I would like to go higher.

[cyan ravine]

I mean more like throwing high voltage that is definitely not a daily thing

[frigid night]

just to much heat to put into the loop?

oh I see.

[cyan ravine]

No it's more just redundant unless you really know what you're doing

I wouldn't call myself worthy of it really

[frigid night]

I didn't really want the ram in the loop, I just figured I'd see how much it was.

it's only like $100 difference to add the RAM into the loop

[cyan ravine]

You can still add that later though if you find yourself wanting to bench your kit really hard

[mossy venture]

Water cool a hard drive

[cyan ravine]

For just daily stuff I wouldn't do it tho

[frigid night]

yeah I'll be fine without it.

[fossil cedar]

Ram loop such a waste of money

[mossy venture]

hdd loop>

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[frigid night]

I'm high maintenance.

[mossy venture]

strix 3050, which likely cost more than a 6650xt, with a 12900k

what

100% could have done a 12600k 6800xt for the same price if not less

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[frigid night]

@fossil cedar will a 10105 work on MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI?

[cyan ravine]

Yes

Just none of the K features will work

Weird pairing but I'm guessing this is spare parts

[frigid night]

That's fine. I found a good deal on the board and CPU so I'm going to grab them for my daughter's build.

will be paying half cost for both

board is new / cpu is used

[mossy venture]

how much total?

[frigid night]

$100 + shipping

[mossy venture]

nice

[analog pulsar]

Okay

[frigid night]

would an 8700k bottleneck a 3080ti?

at 1440p?

[mossy venture]

not badly enough that i'd bother upgrading it

unless going to a 5800x3d or 13th gen

[analog hearth]

maybe a little. I would just upgrade the CPU next, rather than the GPU after getting that 3080 Ti

[rare plover]

Hi

So uh

I found an old PC and i need help to attach all the wires to the motherboard

How do i remove this fan for cleaning

[worn wave]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz4vpkfYoII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AmR7enxnXI

Watch these two videos and you should be good.

[rare plover]

Dome one

Pls

Oh

K

[fossil cedar]

No new news there 😛

[rare plover]

Whats supposed to be here

[analog hearth]

those are 5.25" drive/expansion bays. you can put stuff like an optical drive or extra ports there. but if you don't have any of those, then I wouldn't worry about it

[rare plover]

Ok

Can someone help pls

What do these connect to

[analog hearth]

power for some part (it should say on the connector)

it should say something like "SATA," "PCIe," stuff like that

one of them should say "CPU" on it

also, Google helps a lot

[rare plover]

It doesn’t say anything there are some wierd letters tho

[pale bane]

should I get a 13600kf (€390, the normal 13600k is €420) or the 5800x3d (€440)? (in terms of total price for the pc it's the same)

[obsidian wigeon]

if you just game

5800x3d

if you do other stuff too like workstation and video rendering, 13600kf

[pale bane]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/xgdF3y is this good?

[woven horizon]

You’ll likely need a bios update for the 13600k to work on that board. That’s also expensive for a B series board.

[pale bane]

I'm looking for a board with wifi

and that's the cheapest I could find

[mossy venture]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/product/34kWGX/msi-pro-b660m-a-wifi-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-b660m-a-wifi-ddr4

[pale bane]

hold up why doesn't it have bios flashback

[fossil cedar]

What's your budget? Also pc part picker isn't always the best for nl

[pale bane]

1500-1600

[fossil cedar]

lemme have a look

[pale bane]

I could also get a board without wifi and get a separate wifi card

just that with the b550 boards it came out to about the same price

https://www.megekko.nl/product/7953/1146018/Intel-Socket-1700-Moederborden/MSI-PRO-Z690-P-DDR4 ?

[fossil cedar]

id do this https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/zqprLs

[pale bane]

why an aio?

also thank you I will definitely get that motherboard

wait is the top or the second m.2 slot pcie gen4?

[fossil cedar]

13600k is gonna be hot, also you could go with an air cooler like ak620 but that doesn't have rgb

[pale bane]

it's gonna be that hot?

[fossil cedar]

Well hotter than anything in the €20-65 category can reasonably cool imo

Ak620 is a good choice at 70ish but after you make it rgb

Might as well get aio

[pale bane]

I don't necessarily need rgb

I had the fx cuz it was the same price as non fx

[fossil cedar]

Ah well you can also do the deepcool ak620 then if you want

[formal girder]

So there is a chance I might sell my current PC without drives hopefully around $3k and if I do I would want to do a new build sub $2K and use Nvidia GPU only https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WnRz9r and this doesn't have storage as I already have that covered

[mossy venture]

what is your current pc?

[formal girder]

Let me build that list real fast without the storage drives

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwBTDq

[mossy venture]

i wouldn't really recc that mobo or case

for the first build

also how tf you selling that for 3k

[formal girder]

Upsale GPU

It's strix tax

[mossy venture]

no way you're getting more than 1.1k for the gpu

[formal girder]

Plus I can provide new drives for them so that would put it around 3k if I did a few m.2s

Plus I can upsale the ram due to the status of ballistix

[mossy venture]

i don't really think so

i guess well wait and see but i dont see it selling for more than 2k

[formal girder]

I got a few ideas

[spring hedge]

Is this a good deal https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-12gb-gddr6x-pci-express-4-0-graphics-card-titanium-and-black/6462956.p?skuId=6462956&ref=186&loc=nvidia_site

[mossy venture]

no

[spring hedge]

Can you send me something that is a good deal then?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qFytt6/msi-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-gaming-z-trio-video-card-geforce-rtx-3080-gaming-z-trio-12g-lhr or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sG6p99/pny-geforce-rtx-3080-12gb-lhr-12-gb-uprising-video-card-vcg308012ltfmpb

[spring hedge]

Alright thank yo

[frigid night]

the guy has a 1080ti and was wondering if upgrading to a 3080ti without upgrading cpu would be a bad idea. This was before he told me he had a $2500 budget to build a new PC lol

[fossil cedar]

If you're spending closer to 2k might as well wait for 4080

[formal girder]

I wanna wait till I see results for vr benchmarks

[fossil cedar]

Even if you don't get 4080 it will probs push 3080 prices down so

Also it's obvs gonna be good bit better than 3080

Especially with 16gb will probs be useful

You really want that hyte case?

[mossy venture]

o11 air mini is a kinda similar look

[formal girder]

Just want something that could hold the length of the 30 and 40 series card but not too much space

[frigid night]

yeah, he still needs a 1440p monitor as well.

[mossy venture]

g360a is half the price

[analog hearth]

I meant upgrade the GPU, then the CPU, and then the GPU again

[formal girder]

I've already got my monitors just selling current build for a different style system but not RGB vomit

[strong raft]

011 air mini is actually pretty great for $100ish. Will hold most 40 series models considering can fit 3x120mm fans, but double check inside case space.

[fossil cedar]

@formal girder imo you should bring your ram forward to your current system although someone might pay extra for 64gb 🤷

But you could probably stick 3200c16 2x16gb in pc you're selling and they would be v happy

[formal girder]

I'm gonna try to market it as a dual purpose PC for gaming and work

[fossil cedar]

Fair

[formal girder]

Plus I'd get a slight perf boost and extra money when I do sell and build new pc

[fossil cedar]

Also so no rgb?

[formal girder]

I'm not big on rgb at all

[fossil cedar]

Okie

[formal girder]

If there's a different suggestion for parts but due note I need USB ports mainly USB A ports while the mobo would need minimum of 1 for me to use quest link

[fossil cedar]

Id do something like this gpu dependant on time
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HPtQgb

That one has 9 usb a ports?

Maybe you meant at least 1 usb c?

[formal girder]

Yeah

[hushed cape]

I have a friend that is looking to buy a prebuilt with a $950 budget, does anyone know any decent builds for that price?

[fossil cedar]

Probably this
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideacentre-gaming-5i-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-12700-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-lhr-512gb-ssd-raven-black/6521129.p?skuId=6521129

[upbeat lake]

h510 flow doesnt deserve the hate, my gpu is topped out rn and im sat at 80 degrees

also if u want to run dying light 2 on max settings ur gonna need more than 16gb of ram

as i have just learnt

[mossy venture]

my gpu sits at 65c under max load

and h510 flow is ok, it's the other models that suck

especially the elite

[upbeat lake]

how many case fans u got

[mossy venture]

the flow is just overpriced for what it is

[frigid night]

The rest of your system is using 9gb of ram??

[mossy venture]

g360a same price and much better

[upbeat lake]

yeah i use voicemod which uses quite a bit and i have spotify and discord open too, then all windows processes

it all stacks up

and obv like 60 launchers i havent been bothered to turn them off from running in the background

[frigid night]

that's only 5.5gb of ram lol

[upbeat lake]

o

OH I HAVE SHADOWPLAY ON

[mossy venture]

im using 10.7gb of ram with discord, 3 chrome tabs, and valorant open

[upbeat lake]

its 45 second

1080p 45 second shadow play

[mossy venture]

also a good few background tasks

[upbeat lake]

that uses quite a bit

[upbeat lake]

fr if ur at 5.5gb ram usage then u prob spent half ur life sorting out what background tasks you REALLY need

i dont have that time

[mossy venture]

it's very simple to do

[upbeat lake]

yeah but who cares

my pc never tops out

[mossy venture]

people who need room for other tasks

[upbeat lake]

its only doing it cos im doing it deliberately

to see how hot it gets

dl2 is currently using 3.3gb of ram, my usage is at 50%

meaning

everything else is using 4.7

[upbeat lake]

not the 9gb guess that was made here

oh right i see

[still roost]

CatboyNotLive#8905 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[upbeat lake]

omg

[fossil cedar]

80c is very hot for a gpu

Fyi

That's equivalent to saying like 95c on a cpu

[upbeat lake]

not when its at 100% usage

[fossil cedar]

Like very close to throttle

Yeah it is

[frigid night]

as my GPU gets to 93c hotspot

ugh

[fossil cedar]

Hotspots different

[frigid night]

83c

[fossil cedar]

I'm running occt stress test for 3d on gpu rn and getting 67c and 84c hotspot

Granted that's with an undervolt

Cuz uv op

83c is when 30 series throttles

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[frigid night]

I run my case fans at 80% and gpu fans at 90% in a room that is 26c and my gpu gets 93c hotspot and 79c regular

that's about 12 hours of Apex.

[fossil cedar]

12 hours?

[frigid night]

yeah

[upbeat lake]

thats getting into nolife hours

[frigid night]

I've been playing Apex all night/day

[fossil cedar]

Lol how

[frigid night]

I generally work 12 hours a day 7 days a week. I'm enjoying my couple days off atm 😛

[fossil cedar]

Anyway 79c plus you literally have a 3080 12gb so ofc it's gonna be pretty hot

Impressive tho lol

[frigid night]

yeah but I thought that massive cooler on this Aorus Master would keep it from getting that hot.

[upbeat lake]

i have a 2060 super that i constantly run at 80% fans

like im sorry 2060s arent particularly known for running cool are they

[fossil cedar]

Yeah they're a pretty cool card

[fossil cedar]

Welp you do have an o11 or something right?

[frigid night]

5000D Airflow

[fossil cedar]

Ogg

Ohh

Hmm

What case fans?

[frigid night]

ST120s

[fossil cedar]

Hmm

Maybe try make them not constant 80 and let them go higher in curve if the noise is okay for you

But yeah 3080s just run hot

[frigid night]

I tried that, but when I'm gaming I gotta have them at constant 80 or more to keep my GPU temps down. I don't want to run them at 100 because that's bad right? I could try 90...

[fossil cedar]

Nah it's fine

Like yes the faster they go the less they'll last time wise but not by a huge amount

And anyway case fans are way easier and cheaper to replace than gpu fans so

Imo crank the case fans if that's what's needed

Also undervolt can see a huge drop in temps

[frigid night]

I haven't the knowledge to do that yet. I spent my weekend playing Apex lol.

about to go to bed to start my week (if you can call it that) of work again.

[fossil cedar]

It's pretty easy, there's a guide pinned in #graphics-cards

[frigid night]

I know. I'm usually just so tired it doesn't make sense to me.

[frank stirrup]

Those fans aint gonna be happy

Or alive for too long

[frank stirrup]

Meanwhile me hitting 105C

[fossil cedar]

Exquise me

[vague oracle]

My 3080 12gb when at 100% was running around 55-60C soooooo

[frank stirrup]

Hawtspot

With stock fan curve

[fossil cedar]

Yikies

[fossil cedar]

Unstock it

[jagged ember]

80C when under full load is tragic

thats borderline throttling temperatures

my 2070 under full load only reached 75 peak with fans running at max on a dinky cooler

it's a ventus, by the way

granted, i actually had airflow

[upbeat lake]

its a 2nd hand gpu anyway they werent gonna live long either way

[fossil cedar]

What uh no

[jagged ember]

lmao

what is it, a second hand ssd?

[fossil cedar]

2060

[jagged ember]

right, a gpu

[upbeat lake]

nearly everything in my build is 2nd hand

[fossil cedar]

Thats perfectly fine

[upbeat lake]

excluding case, cpu, and motherboard

[jagged ember]

the fact that it's used isn't the reason it's fans are going to die early

[frank stirrup]

Only if the previous owner was as careless as you and mistreated it as well

[jagged ember]

you running it constantly at 80% rpm is

[jagged ember]

or, this

[upbeat lake]

its not constant

but like

when im playing games i mean

[jagged ember]

in addition to you abusing it lol

[upbeat lake]

i set it to 80% when playing games cos anything above that is unbearably loud

so actually ive extended its life span

cos the fans arent going as much as they were on auto

[jagged ember]

if you got a case with real airflow

it would run even less fast

and extend its lifespan

[upbeat lake]

the only problem with the h510 flow is the underside of the gpu

[jagged ember]

which is exactly where the air goes into the gpu?

[upbeat lake]

this is true

[jagged ember]

man i wonder why your temps are so high

[frank stirrup]

Only problem with the h510 airflow is that its a horrible overpriced h510 but holes

10$ on wish.com makes h510 into h510 airflow

[jagged ember]

true, or 0 dollars and an electric drill

[upbeat lake]

an electric drill costs money

plus the electricity

[frank stirrup]

Less of a waste than nzxt products

[frigid night]

which is nothing compared to the amount of electricity used by the fans to keep the gpu cool 🙂

[upbeat lake]

thats fair

but

bare in mind

i also havent cleaned the dust filter in ab a month

so

that obv is restricting airflow too

[frank stirrup]

I havent in like 4 months lol

[jagged ember]

same

[upbeat lake]

so if i cleaned that i reckon that 80 celcius would drop a bit

[jagged ember]

my temps are still under 80

[upbeat lake]

also like

[frank stirrup]

And i have 2 cats who shed a lot

[upbeat lake]

it was my first build

like

[jagged ember]

oof cat hair

[upbeat lake]

its not gonna be perfect

i would get a diff case if i had the choice

[mossy venture]

And that's fine, but why are you defending the h510 flow

My first build had much worse issues

[jagged ember]

we all know it's a bad case

objectively

[mossy venture]

I spend $150 on a mediocre case, $150 on a bad psu

[upbeat lake]

cos its not AS bad as the reputation says

[mossy venture]

I dropped a screwdriver on my motherboard three times

[upbeat lake]

its pretty bad

but its not like

gonna kill ur pc or anything

[frank stirrup]

For the price, its awful

Woula been aight at like 70 dollar maximum

[upbeat lake]

never disagreed with that

[mossy venture]

Ofc not. There's not a single case I can think of that would

[upbeat lake]

its overpriced asf

[frank stirrup]

Well

[jagged ember]

there's probably cases out there that can kill your pc

[upbeat lake]

but if you even mention it to some people they will act like you just stabbed their mum

"WHAT NO YOU CANT USE THAT CASE IT HAS .2 DEGREES HOTTER THAN THIS ONE FOR THE SAME PRICE HOW DARE YOU"

[frank stirrup]

Nzxt h1 comes to mind

[upbeat lake]

ive had a 5 degree difference used as an argument before

[mossy venture]

Ok fair

Felix do be typing

[frank stirrup]

Fellx

[cyan ravine]

[cyan ravine]

That's a fair argument tho, if you ever want to eek every inch of performance out of the system at any point you're knee capping yourself

[upbeat lake]

but im never gonna do that

[cyan ravine]

That said, I don't find the flow straight terrible, it helps a niche have at least regular airflow

[upbeat lake]

besides the h510 has like the perfect look for my setup

so

aesthetic did sway me a bit

[frank stirrup]

Etsy been doin that for years lololol

[cyan ravine]

Y'all nzxt fans want a box and that flow case is like the only way that does it at a decent price

[cyan ravine]

True

Like all the other nzxt cases prior to it are just worse on so many levels tho

[frank stirrup]

I feel the need to once again bring up the h1

[upbeat lake]

okay but we do have to agree the h510 is really good looking

despite the awful performance

its really good looking

[cyan ravine]

Nope

[frank stirrup]

Not really

[cyan ravine]

I know people like it, hence why I say it fills a niche having a flow case

[frank stirrup]

H510 is what you get when you open a box and a smaller box comes out

Now this...

This is a good looking case

[upbeat lake]

ugly

[still roost]

CatboyNotLive#8905 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[upbeat lake]

bro

i hate that so much

why

just let me speak

or just like copy the message and censor the word its so inconvenient to retype the whole thing

its always on the longer messages too

[cyan ravine]

It's fine if you don't like it, that's what makes me glad the flow exists cos then you can have a decent option for what you want

[cyan ravine]

Oooo yes the torrent

Cute

[jagged ember]

pretty close to the nzxt h510 look lol

torrent is a different beast entirely

[frank stirrup]

Indeed

[upbeat lake]

WHAT

[jagged ember]

yeah

[upbeat lake]

IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE A H510

[cyan ravine]

Lol

[jagged ember]

literally only difference is the damn front panel

[frank stirrup]

Although the case i simp for is not a thing outside of asian markets

[upbeat lake]

THE H510 IS A LITERAL CUBOID

[cyan ravine]

I mean he's not really wrong, these are all boxes

[upbeat lake]

thats bevelled

[frank stirrup]

Use motherboard box as case

[jagged ember]

okay, the feet and the edges are a little different

[cyan ravine]

Actually I see it now that you put them side by side haha

[jagged ember]

but other than that it's effectively identical

[cyan ravine]

NOW THIS IS A CUTE BOI

[upbeat lake]

i have it in wwhite

so

[frank stirrup]

@cyan ravine @jagged ember
Allow me to introduce my favourite case
The 690 air
https://antesports.com/products/ant-esports-690-air-mid-tower-argb-gaming-cabinet

[jagged ember]

nice

[frank stirrup]

Its actually top tier

[cyan ravine]

Ooo i like that too actually

[upbeat lake]

i like men

[jagged ember]

dat mesh

[frank stirrup]

Top 360 rad mount

[cyan ravine]

It reminds me of a more sharp edged deepcool case

[frank stirrup]

Side mount as well

All for 6k indian rupees

So around 65-70 usd

Wait i actually did a build in it a little while back lemme show

[cyan ravine]

You'd be cutting it close with that ram clearance maybe

Depends on board tho

Ya pretty much

Lol

Shoots you thru the brains with frames

[frank stirrup]

Nah

The build i did in it

[cyan ravine]

Eh that's actually good clearance

[frank stirrup]

Yep

[cyan ravine]

Pics don't do justice

[frank stirrup]

And for like 65$

It is in my opinion the best case

Sadly i havent seen it outside asia

[cyan ravine]

Some cases you only find in asia are stonks

[frank stirrup]

Indeed

And the best part is this case has magnetic front panel too

Super easy to clean

All magnetic mesh on top, front and side as well

Dream case.

[upbeat lake]

okay so

once i have a job

what case do u guys reccomend

[cyan ravine]

Depends on the rest of the system

If you really want a cube look I find the o11 air mini a reasonable choice

[potent portal]

P400A digital if you like rgb and not destroying your budget, G360A too. If you want the best of the best for top tier parts it's another game entirely.

[cyan ravine]

Yeah we normally suggest g360a around here as it's quite versatile with a 360 top mount

[frank stirrup]

Indeed

[upbeat lake]

2060 super, b460 torpedo, 16gb ram (idk ab exact specs), 2tb hdd 7200rpm, 500gb m.2 ssd, i5 10400f with stock cooler

[cyan ravine]

Mx330-g air

[upbeat lake]

pic

[cyan ravine]

And maybe an se-214xt to quiet the system down

[jagged ember]

case go brr

[upbeat lake]

thats not actually bad looking

is there a white version

[potent portal]

The honeycomb style mesh is nice yeah

[cyan ravine]

I don't believe so

[jagged ember]

could also get the p400a, p360a or g360a

[upbeat lake]

okay is there any cases u would reccomend that come in white

[cyan ravine]

I'll look for a white case

[potent portal]

Both of the ones I recommended do