building-and-recc-chat

[toxic wraith]

ok so

hmmmmm ok

alr then

ty guys

[mossy venture]

What's the budget for the whole build?

Are you the dude going for the 7700xt?

[toxic wraith]

yes

Lmaoo

[mossy venture]

It might be worth it then, what's the budget without gpu

[toxic wraith]

without gpu

[mossy venture]

Yes

[toxic wraith]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[empty pollen]

bacca san.... the time is nigh

[toxic wraith]

including the 12600k?

or

12400fr

[mossy venture]

Everything in the pc but the gpu

[toxic wraith]

ok

[mossy venture]

Cpu, mobo, cooler, ram, case, psu, ram, ssd

[toxic wraith]

1k

[little osprey]

Goofy looking GPU

[mossy venture]

Ok, give me a min

[toxic wraith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PVw6PX

[empty pollen]

the picture is compacted

[toxic wraith]

ong

[mossy venture]

I would get 12700f over 12600k rn

Also there's a 32gb teamgroup RGB kit for the same price, I would get that instead

Corsair ram isn't good

[toxic wraith]

Oh

i just wanted rgb lmao

[mossy venture]

Ye, there's a teamgroup rgb kit that imo looks better

[toxic wraith]

wait

i think ik what ur talking about

but it kinda looks weird when its inside

[mossy venture]

Might need a diff psu too, I think that ones out of stock

[toxic wraith]

theres text on the top

[cunning haven]

Best ram for 64Gb?

[toxic wraith]

oh yea

[mossy venture]

There's an asus tuf gaming 750 for decent price

[mossy venture]

Whatever 2x32 3200mhz cl16 kit you can find cheapest

Assuming ddr4

[empty pollen]

why do you need that much ram?

[cunning haven]

Was aiming for DDR5

[cunning haven]

CySec

[empty pollen]

oh

[cunning haven]

Lots of multitasking

LMAOO

[mossy venture]

This us the one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6mTp99/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-tf3d432g3200hc16fdc01

[toxic wraith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7RYcf/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tf3d432g3600hc18jdc01

i found thgis

[mossy venture]

Not for you kuruto

Yeah that one, but I'd get the 3200mhz one

3600mhz might not run with a 12400f or 12700f

[toxic wraith]

hmm

[empty pollen]

your question is kinda specialized, better to take it to #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[toxic wraith]

it looks weird but'

aight

[mossy venture]

With ddr5, get 2x32, not 4x16

Anything 5600-6000mhz I'd say, cl32-36

[little osprey]

Still single fan looks goofy

[empty pollen]

heck even 6200c38

[cunning haven]

Noted

[empty pollen]

he wont notice the latency anyway, nor that it matters

[little osprey]

Does water cooling take effort to take care of?

[toxic wraith]

i cant find this on pc part piciker

[cunning haven]

Sounds good

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GwkWGX/asus-tuf-gaming-750-w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-tuf-gaming-750b also this is fine if you go for a 6800xt

[mossy venture]

Just search teamgroup 32gb

And scroll till you find it

[little osprey]

I'm only getting a 550W 😭

That's gonna be enough for a 12100F and 1070?

[mossy venture]

You're using a 1070 though

Not a 6800xt

Yes, it's fine

[empty pollen]

[toxic wraith]

nvm i found it

[mossy venture]

I've ran a 6800xt on a 650, and a 3060 ti on a 500

[empty pollen]

you are quite the madman bacca

[little osprey]

But uhhh, does water cooling take effort?

[toxic wraith]

bacca

[mossy venture]

An aio, not really

[empty pollen]

no

[mossy venture]

Custom, yes

A lot

Too much

[toxic wraith]

is ur name pronounced ba-cha or ba-ka

[empty pollen]

an aio consume 6-10w top

[mossy venture]

Chewbacca

[toxic wraith]

oh

ok

truebacca

[mossy venture]

Mhm

[little osprey]

I'd rather spend time working on a lawn mower than keeping a water cooling kit

[empty pollen]

you need a lot of money for a custom loop too

[toxic wraith]

On god cuh

[mossy venture]

Aio not worth for anything but 5800x3d, 12900k, 12700k, or 5950x

[little osprey]

Also what does AIO mean?

[toxic wraith]

isnt it like 250 bucks for a custom loop

[mossy venture]

Well, few other cpus, but none that you'd even consider owning

[empty pollen]

All in One

[mossy venture]

Think more like a thousand

[toxic wraith]

wtf

[little osprey]

Interesting

[mossy venture]

650 minimum

[empty pollen]

a grand the cheapest one

[toxic wraith]

wait

im thinking

something else

nvm

u right

[empty pollen]

usually 2 grand for a good custom loop

[mossy venture]

Water block up to $200 for gpu, cpu water block, tons of tubing

The liquid, pump

[toxic wraith]

i was only thinking of the cpu cooler

[little osprey]

How many years until they start building laptop cases you can build your own laptop in?

Genuine question

[toxic wraith]

How tf we supposed to know silly goose

[mossy venture]

An aio is only worth it on these cpus

[toxic wraith]

Jk

[mossy venture]

Technichally custom laptops are a thing

Just not really for us to build ourselves

[empty pollen]

there is a modular laptop already

[little osprey]

Yeah

[toxic wraith]

wait

[mossy venture]

Ok I'm tired and want to watch YouTube

[toxic wraith]

isnt there like a god awful laptop

[mossy venture]

Ravell is smart listen to him

[toxic wraith]

for just coding

[empty pollen]

e_e

[toxic wraith]

which u can build

[little osprey]

Fair enough

If it's a good video send it to me

I'm bored

[toxic wraith]

everytime i see ur pfp i always see a black oily man for some reason

and i thought ravell's pfp was a man

whats performance boost clock

[little osprey]

Overclocking I would assume

I'm stupid

[toxic wraith]

idk

i saw it on 12700f

and other stuff

[empty pollen]

perfomance boost clock refers to the boost of the clock on the perfomrance cores

[toxic wraith]

dp i just liek turn it on in bbios or soething

Bro wtf

[empty pollen]

p-cores and e-cores have different boosting clocks

[toxic wraith]

alr is this good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VHkdtn

i need to watch a ton of videos on how to build a pc

when its the time t o

[empty pollen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tD6sPX

[toxic wraith]

cuz idk anytthing about cables

[empty pollen]

better and cheaper mobo

[toxic wraith]

oh fr?

[empty pollen]

yup

[toxic wraith]

someone said that the auros pro looked better and is slightly better

[empty pollen]

look better, yes, but aorus mobos have the nasty habit to come with old bios on them

[toxic wraith]

does it take long to upgrade bios or something

[empty pollen]

not really if you follow the steps on your mobo website

[mossy venture]

It looks better, has similar vrms, and has a better io

I'd spend the extra $5 for it

[toxic wraith]

was the youtube good

its 10 bucks i think

[mossy venture]

Still watching it

[empty pollen]

well if bacca san say so, i trust his word

[toxic wraith]

ok

[mossy venture]

You need wifi on mobo?

If yes, aorus pro ax

[toxic wraith]

doesnt AX mean

wifi

[mossy venture]

If not, mag bazooka

Yes

[empty pollen]

ax means wifi to them 😛

[toxic wraith]

well

[mossy venture]

They like to make things difficult

[toxic wraith]

wifi would be much mcuch preferred

[empty pollen]

is their way to not pay royalties i guess

[mossy venture]

Then ye, aorus pro ax

[toxic wraith]

ok

ty for ur help

[mossy venture]

Especially considering you're gaming, vrms will do more than fine with a 12700f

[toxic wraith]

What the hell

how did you know im gaming

[empty pollen]

non k cpus are not demanding anyway 😛

[mossy venture]

Pc looks like a gaming pc

[empty pollen]

not your first day here you know

[toxic wraith]

underestandable

[mossy venture]

Most people who come here want gaming pcs

So technichally I dont know

But I'm psychic so I do

[toxic wraith]

makes sense

but

I do a little bit of other things like

Animating modeling

and scripting

but

ty tho

i really appreciate ur guys's help

[mossy venture]

Eh, should still be fine. Worst case scenario vrms get a little hot, but the aorus pro ax still has good vrms

Shouldn't be an issue at all

[toxic wraith]

yea

im not doing anything crazy

[empty pollen]

yup, 20 threads will have you coverd big time anyway

[toxic wraith]

just like sword model

models*

and stuff

[mossy venture]

As long as you're not running a 12900k, you're fine lol

[toxic wraith]

ok ty

was there not an rgb channel

i swear there was

[mossy venture]

No

[toxic wraith]

im delusional i guess

[empty pollen]

rgb is a plus, not a need

[mossy venture]

Dw, we all are

[toxic wraith]

necessity for high fps

[empty pollen]

no reason to have a channel for that

[mossy venture]

Oh ravell

[empty pollen]

virtuyally every pc piece have an rgb version

[mossy venture]

Being a computer nerd is gonna help me graduate high school

[empty pollen]

sup bro?

oh

[mossy venture]

I'm going to use building my pc as my senior project lmao

[empty pollen]

thats nice to hear man

lawl

[mossy venture]

Gonna record it and do a time lapse

[empty pollen]

you will blow their minds

[mossy venture]

I get to nerd out, and explain it to other people

[empty pollen]

raptor build

yeah that will be sick

[mossy venture]

I'm so impatient for the release

[empty pollen]

like explaining every piece

[mossy venture]

I just hope it isn't depressing

[empty pollen]

man you need to upload that thing to youtube

[mossy venture]

If it is, I'll just be going for a used cpu

[mossy venture]

Maybe

[toxic wraith]

that would be sad if booting it up fails

[empty pollen]

kinda explaining all the features on the mobo, heck we can even use that here

[mossy venture]

I have a friend with a YouTube channel, maybe I can ask if he wants to upload it

[mossy venture]

I expect there to be issues, it'll be my first time building from scratch

[empty pollen]

what a vrm is, memory channles, pcie lanes

chipset features

[toxic wraith]

Oh fr

nice

[empty pollen]

offff, will be a nice project

[mossy venture]

Ye, I'm excited

[empty pollen]

my rig will have to wait some more months, im about to blow my entire budget on the 4090 by november

big time

[mossy venture]

Yeah, maybe 7700xt will be out by then and you'll reconsider?

[empty pollen]

maybe, thats why ill wait novemebr

[mossy venture]

If it matches 4079 12gb at $700, that'd be nice

[empty pollen]

if amd is lackluster well... bye bye budget

still thinking on 1.8k on a gpu give me the creeps

plus if sales are meh probably nvidia will bundle it with something

[mossy venture]

I wonder if fsr 3.0 will be a thing lol

[empty pollen]

much like microcenter bundled ddr5 with am5

[mossy venture]

4090+ msi z790 godlike and an 8k 60hz monitor for 3.4k

Amazing deal

[empty pollen]

yeah im an msi fanboy

[toxic wraith]

bro

someone in my school has an msi backpack

wtff

[empty pollen]

in fact if ill go down the 4090 route, it will be the suprim

[mossy venture]

I'm def going to order my mobo off amazon warehouse if I can

There's some insane deals

$120 msi z690-a wifi

[empty pollen]

yeah last time you had some crazy deals on some b stock on amazon

[toxic wraith]

BRO WHAT THIS MSI BASCKPACK COSTS 150

[mossy venture]

Lol

Waste of money

[toxic wraith]

ONG

brooo

it looks so bad

this is bs

[empty pollen]

well, to be fair you use money to buy thing you like... maybe he liked that backpack

so heck the cost

cant blame him

[mossy venture]

I spent$200 today on tickets to smtjn for me, my brother and two friends

[toxic wraith]

fair enough

[stoic island]

msi likes to bundle it into deals with laptops

[mossy venture]

Going to visit them this weekend, there's some sick haunted houses. $50 per person for a nights admission

[toxic wraith]

ohhhh i see

[stoic island]

I doubt many people buy it straight up

but sometimes bundles

[empty pollen]

too many halloween movies for me to go into a haunted house xD

[mossy venture]

I don't like horror movies, they just suck

[toxic wraith]

Im just awfulwith jumpscares

[empty pollen]

had a gf who loved them

[toxic wraith]

like bro

i was in the theaters with my friend

[empty pollen]

and i was almost forced to see those with her T_T

[toxic wraith]

to watch top gun maverick

and smile trailer scared the hell out of me ong

[mossy venture]

I was bouta say

If you called top gun a horror movie

[toxic wraith]

LMAOO

extremely loud noises tho

especially the jets

[mossy venture]

Jump scares don't really get me

[empty pollen]

was a good movie, full of inconsistencies but good overall 😄 nice packed action from start to finish

[mossy venture]

Like I played a ton of fnaf and didn't really get scared much

Though I really want to play the VR one

[toxic wraith]

top gun?

[mossy venture]

I feel like I'll poop myself with that one

[toxic wraith]

oh wait

im stupid

[empty pollen]

VR scary games, not for me thx

[toxic wraith]

Brooooooooooo

[mossy venture]

I've never tried any

[toxic wraith]

vr horror games 💀

Hell no

ill piss myself

[empty pollen]

phasmophobia on vr

[toxic wraith]

😭

[mossy venture]

I think I'll get around ti it this weekend, bring my oculus with me to PA to use with my friends

[toxic wraith]

😔

[mossy venture]

I'm planning on bring some uh.. fun plant

[empty pollen]

well vr with friends, yeah that sounds nice

[toxic wraith]

yea

[mossy venture]

Maybe I do it with it

[empty pollen]

oh, that sounds even better

hehehhe

[toxic wraith]

only good games i have on oculus are

beat saber the climb 2 rec room vr chat and gtag

[mossy venture]

Is help wanted on the actual oculus?

Or is it smthn it has to be connected to a pc for

[toxic wraith]

whats the diff between oculus quest 1 and 2

i got the two and it just feels like any other vr headset

[mossy venture]

Quest one has graphics like a gt 1030

Not actually, but its a huge difference in graphics and processing/image quality I believe

[toxic wraith]

hmmmmmmm

interesting

not really

but ok

thx

im glad im getting into pcs and stuff it seems really interesting and fun

[mossy venture]

I'm so glad I hyper focused on pcs

It's my favorite hobby now

[toxic wraith]

its fun to talk about

demons streams are fun to watch

alr ima go now

cya

[toxic wraith]

https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-NEON-Digital-RGB-Strip-PH-NELEDKT_M1/dp/B07XLPH8WW/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2O4MGK8ED9NHT&keywords=phanteks%2Bneon%2Brgb&qid=1664855333&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjA4IiwicXNhIjoiMS42MiIsInFzcCI6IjIuMTYifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=pha%2Caps%2C3380&sr=8-1&th=1

do you think i need a 2 x 400mm, 1m or 550mm for a mid tower case

[spiral lake]

a wise man once told me, its not about the size, its about how you use it. Do with that what you will

[paper summit]

💀

Relatable

[noble ridge]

Hi, is it just me or do asus motherboards just suck? I bought an Asus x570 prime pro/csm for my 3900x, 2070 super build. 4 months down the line, it started having power delivery problems and gave a cpu post error every time I tried turning on the system. I went to asus and got a replacement since it was still in warranty. The replaced board comes, works decently for like 7 more months and then it's ram slots get fried(none of the slots accept ram, kept getting dram errors even with one stick in any slot). Had that one replaced again. This is now my third board in like a year. This board lasted another 6 or so months and then it's ram slots got fried as well. Is this something I have to expect with asus products? Cuz I'm out of warranty now and I have to buy a new motherboard for my system. This is not a cheap part by any means. I didn't have any sort of overclock on my cpu or GPU that could cause this. My memory ram at its rated docp speeds, until it didn't (fried slots). None of my parts have changed over the time of this build. The motherboard is the only one I keep having to switch. I know for a fact that the other parts aren't the problem because I had them all professionally tested a week ago
Am I to just expect asus motherboards to go bad after every half year?
This is my first build ever, so like I don't know if this is a thing that motherboards naturally need to be replaced every half yearly or something, because this is going to prove to become really expensive really quick

Tldr: I had to replace my asus prime x570 pro csm thrice over the course of a year and now have to buy a new one because it's again screwed. Is this normal

[vague oracle]

Pretty sure you just got a really bad lemon

I’ve been using an Asus Crosshair VIII Hero for 3 years now without any issues

[noble ridge]

I got this model RMAd thrice

Each came w the same defect

So ig I'm just REALLY unlucky

[fossil cedar]

Maybe they tried to repair your board instead of replace, maybe mention they tried a few times but still no luck and would like a new board

[flint sapphire]

Nah asus is sus therefor maybe bad

[odd moss]

hello can someone review my build thanks. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NnjzW4

[fossil cedar]

Previously bought or too buy now?

Either way a lot of bad choices

What's your use cases

[potent portal]

There is so much wrong with that

[mossy venture]

Literally everything is wrong with it

[fossil cedar]

For 3.5k build you'd wanna wait 2 weeks, get a 4090 and a 13900k

3800x, ew, i can't imagine why you'd need 128gb of ram let alone with an 8 core cpu

[potent portal]

It's more of a $2800 build plus monitors

But yeah

[fossil cedar]

Kraken, why multiple 1tbs

[fossil cedar]

You can still do better monitors for cheaper tho

That odesssy too pricey

[potent portal]

Pricey sure but some people are willing to pay for the name, at least it performs well.

[fossil cedar]

Like something like this would kick it's ass unless you really needed more ram but i feel like you probably don't as it looks like a gaming build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/trzN9r

[empty pollen]

500usd for a 1440p monitor

[strong raft]

X27Q ftw. $350 for 2 and would technically have 5K. (when on sale of course, and excl amy tax.

[paper summit]

I like how the aio costs just as much as the cpu

[mossy venture]

https://chromeunboxed.com/say-hello-to-the-worlds-first-gaming-chromebook/ HAHAHHAHAAH

[obsidian wigeon]

The funny thing is that it's named ideapad gaming 5

Cause ideapad gaming 3 is higher end lmaoo

And runs on windows

[mossy venture]

I think the funny thing is that they're trying to make a gaming chromebook at all

Chrome os is terrible, they should work on fixing that before anything else

[obsidian wigeon]

Also true

I guess it can game, on geforce now

[little osprey]

1660 super msi twin frozr 7, Ryzen 5 3600x, 2 Tb Hdd, 500 gb nvme ssd, white lian li case. B-450f msi motherboard gold 650 watt power supply

what's a good price to pay for this?

[mossy venture]

I wouldn't pay more than 500 if I were buying

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[digital maple]

Hello, does anyone know why this could be happening ?
I brought the PSU and MB back to the shop to have them tested and they worked. I have been trying to boot that crap up for three weeks now.

[jagged brook]

alr so i finally found some good parts since im from Europe and im wondering if it's worth it?

PROCESSOR - Ryzen 5 5600x - $224
GPU - GIGABYTE nVidia GeForce RTX 2060 D6 6G - $245
MOTHERBOARD - MSI B550M PRO-VDH WiFi ProSeries Motherboard - $138
RAM - CORSAIR 16GB Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 - $83
STORAGE - Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB - $123
CASE - DEEPCOOL MATREXX 40 3FS - $60
PSU - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GA, 80 Plus Gold 650W - $130

TOTAL = $1008

[mossy venture]

What part of europe?

There's some changes I'd make, I can make you a parts list but prices vary per country

[jagged brook]

croatia

and most of these parts are probably the cheapest ones in the whole country

cause i use one website to check prices in like 250+ shops

[mossy venture]

Ah, yeah market isn't good there

[jagged brook]

yea

[mossy venture]

I'd check for a cheaper psu and ssd mainly

Psu is decent but very overpriced

[jagged brook]

alr thanks for the tip

i will check

[mossy venture]

Ssd is a high end gen 3 ssd, doesn't really fit with the rest of the parts

Also if 5600 is noticeably less than 5600x I'd get it instead, nearly identical perf

Aside from that list looks great, unless you can find a better gpu with the money saved on those three ^

[jagged brook]

damn u really helped me

thanks👍🏼

[mossy venture]

Lmk what psu options you find

I'd specifically look for cooler master mwe v2, that tends to be decently priced in countries with bad pc markets

[jagged brook]

alright

i'll look into it

[jagged brook]

yea by changing the PSU im already saving $73

and it's price is $62

[mossy venture]

I'd definitely be careful of psu model though

Some are good some could catch fire

Is it the mwe v2 bronze?

[jagged brook]

yea

500W

should i go for more wats or?

[mossy venture]

230v or regular?

Nah, I've ran a 3060 ti on a worse quality 500

You'll be fine. If you're looking to still spend your whole budget, id look at other gpus. Maybe 6600xt, 6650xt, 3060

[jagged brook]

yea i was thinking about getting 3060

[paper summit]

Isnt the 6650xt better if ur just gaming

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[paper summit]

I thought soo

[obsidian wigeon]

but you do miss out on dlss

[paper summit]

Ehh i dont care for dlss plus amds version is improving

Ehh i dont care for dlss plus amds version is improving

[obsidian wigeon]

AMD version isn't being widely adopted lol

That's the one big problem about it

[jagged brook]

oh yea i forgot to ask u, which ssd should i get to save more money

[mossy venture]

I'd stick with an nvme, but its hard to say which one without seeing pricing

I'd check mp33, sn550, sn570, mp34, silicon power a60

Maybe 660p or 670p

[jagged brook]

alr i will thx

[mossy venture]

If they're not noticeably cheaper than the 970 Evo, I'd stick with the 970

[jagged brook]

prices in Croatia

so SN570 seems like a best option

[mossy venture]

Ye, it is

It's the second best out of those too, not quite as good as 970 evo plus but you won't really notice a difference with gaming

[jagged ember]

570 is good enough for a boot drive

not that it's a bad drive

but as in its more than sufficient

[fossil cedar]

Definitely get the sn570

[jagged brook]

and by changing the ssd and psu im saving $108

lemme check gpu prices rn

nah 3060 prices are crazy here

i'll check amd

[mossy venture]

I'd aim for 6600xt or 6650xt

[jagged brook]

$334

[mossy venture]

6600 is similar to a 2060 super

[jagged brook]

and it's more expensive

[fossil cedar]

6600 non xt is weaker btw

[jagged brook]

ik

[fossil cedar]

Also can you import from Amazon.de?

[jagged brook]

the shipping is the problem

it's always like €100+++

[fossil cedar]

Ah shame

[jagged brook]

i do have my uncle there so i could order it to him

he has amazon prime too

damn rx 6600xt is cheaper here than on amazon de

for like $50

[fossil cedar]

Yeah that's why i suggested it

[mossy venture]

There's this https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/NDvdnQ/xfx-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-speedster-swft-210-core-video-card-rx-665x8dfdy

[jagged brook]

ouhhh lemme take a look

YOOO

thank u so much

im getting this 100%

and if i correct shipping to Croatia is only $9

[mossy venture]

That's sick

6650xt bit better than 2070 super

[jagged brook]

i love y'all so much thank uuuu

[gentle pollen]

I got a challenge to all of y'all who's bored. Make a PCpartlist comprising the best PC you can make!

[mossy venture]

The best is very situational

[fossil cedar]

Ez pz, just slightly modified list from earlier
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jwdDfv

@gentle pollen

[gentle pollen]

Was expecting a Extreme or Classified Mobo ngl.

[jagged brook]

low end pc🫣

budget friendly

[gentle pollen]

New challenge.

Make the most expensive computer you can!

Requirements:. Above 7k USD.

[short yoke]

128gb ram

[ornate condor]

Got my bew gigabyte x670 aorus elite ax mobo so . I been using asus mobos all the time and there's header named cpu pump . But can't find pump header on that gigabyte mobo

is that cpu_opt actually pump header ?

[paper summit]

Bros ram cost more than my gpu

[fossil cedar]

Ehh overkill lol

[fossil cedar]

Unless doing ln2 that would just be a waste of money

Yeah i didn't realise the jump was only 20$ i guess why not

[fossil cedar]

Already done, i think i had a 500tb list i made before or something

[fossil cedar]

Yep, cpu_optional

Also why would you get x670 in this market

[ornate condor]

For 7950x

[fossil cedar]

But you already have z690 and 13900k probs gonna beat

Ryzen 7000 was disappointing imo

[ornate condor]

I will build it with parts that laying aound . if I don't like it I will sell whole build

[fossil cedar]

Amd shouldn't have waited for ddr5 prices to drop

[ornate condor]

Yeah preordered 13900k as well

I'm not sure should I get z790 mobo or not

They're similar price as z690 at least . Not doubled price as amd

[fossil cedar]

Just use your z690

They never add enough to upgrade on the same socket

[ornate condor]

Yeah I can use it but probably will sell my whole build

Couse there's no white strix 4090 so let's see how 4090 performs at rendering

[fossil cedar]

Very good i don't need specs to tell you that lol

Also strix this gen looks crap idk who green lit it

[ornate condor]

Is there any real benchmarks of 4090 ?

[fossil cedar]

More like rtx 4090 stinx

[fossil cedar]

Not non nv ones, wait uh like 2 weeks

I think I'll wait for 14th gen since I won't be using pc much this year cus final year n all

[ornate condor]

Yeah if it's all about dlss and stuff, I will hang on with my 3090 and z690 mobo and just gonna replace cpu to 13900k . if 4090 gives really good performance, then gonna build new pc with surprim 4090 probably

I preordered 13900k already

But 5.7ghz hurts

[mossy venture]

I'm buying on black Friday, whatever I decide on

I've waited 7-8 months as is

Probably 13600k and z690

[fossil cedar]

Could always wait to go 13th gen in summer next year try get a deal i guess we will never know

[formal girder]

I would wait till I see thermal performance with the higher end aios

[strong raft]

Yea, ADL/RPL doesn't have a thick crap ihs like 7000 series. Could even still try the anti bend frame if you wanted. Possibly won't help rpl as much, indeed.

[lilac ember]

intel 12th gen

is good

[little osprey]

This is still a good option for $90?

Three 140mm's and three 120mm's, all pre-installed

[lilac ember]

i do all 140 fan

[frank stirrup]

g360a

[little osprey]

Looks really nice but my brother is getting me the case, and he doesn't have a lot of money RN so I'm trying to find a cheaper case

[frank stirrup]

Same price better case

[little osprey]

It's $10 more and I gave my brother three options

A $70, $75 and $90 options

[frank stirrup]

Its 90$

[fossil cedar]

Deepcool ck560 for 85ish

[fossil cedar]

It's 100

This is 90$ tho
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RV8bt6/deepcool-ck560-atx-mid-tower-case-r-ck560-bkaae4-g-1

Montech is garbo

[frank stirrup]

Pcpp says its 90

[little osprey]

[little osprey]

Probably out of stock on the website selling it

[fossil cedar]

You must have mail in rebates ticked or something

[little osprey]

I would like a case under $80 if possible

[fossil cedar]

Yep

[frank stirrup]

Oh truu

[fossil cedar]

Ew untick rebates

Gross

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pqzhP6/phanteks-eclipse-g360a-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec360atg_dbk02

It's 100 tbh

[little osprey]

@fossil cedar @frank stirrup

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V8Dkcf/cougar-mx331-mesh-x-atx-mid-tower-case-mx331-mesh-x and grab one or 2 of these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/68WfrH/arctic-p12-563-cfm-120-mm-fan-acfan00120a
Or the 5 pack (non daisy chain and non pwm btw)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/t7WBD3/arctic-p12-563-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-acfan00135a

Honestly would just get 1 p12 unless you'd use the others in a different pc

[little osprey]

TBH I think I'm stressing too much about airflow and cooling for a 1070 and 12100F

[potent portal]

You'd be fine with a simple 3 front fan and no exhaust setup with those specs

Or a 2 front 1 rear

[little osprey]

Mhm

I've had this thing since 2018, it's absolute garbage

I want to smash it

[little osprey]

I could get the white X3 for $70 with a total of three 140mm's and three 120mm's all pre-installed

[potent portal]

Might I suggest overclocking it to death instead? Then at least you have some fun with it lol

[little osprey]

Never learned how to overclock

Doesn't that include doing something with the bios?

[potent portal]

Pentium is the best thing to learn on without worrying about killing expensive hardware

[little osprey]

However...

I do have a Celeron on a different laptop I haven't use in a while

Unsure the model

But I have a N5000 Pentium currently

[little osprey]

Also I just don't know why they make the black one $20

I understand it looks more slick, but why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1-d_n7CC7M

Unsure if this is a reliable source

[potent portal]

They've got a pretty straightforward, standardized testing methodology so if it's got their recommendation it's probably ok

That was exactly my reason lol, plus it's a little fun modding the case to fit it

[fossil cedar]

It's technically an okay case but the build quality is thrown away for MOLEX fans

[potent portal]

Yeah, I dropped 20 degrees in time spy

[fossil cedar]

So eh hope you don't expect it to be quiet

Inserts joke about be quiet the company

[little osprey]

I deal with load all day, I think the sound is gonna be minimal compared to stuff I'm around

My Xbox One AC cord screeches all day

This was on sale last night for $75

I think it's the Air 100

I like this more than the X3

The X3 has a goofy front look

[fossil cedar]

It looks way better

[little osprey]

Yeah

I like that it has a door for a side panel too

[little osprey]

No issue with it, just non-appealing to me

[fossil cedar]

Just getting practice so i can be good one in next 5-10 years

[little osprey]

Computer case door 🤤

[potent portal]

@elfin flame Before and after https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/30845722/spy/30840859

[fossil cedar]

It's like going to the gym yano

[potent portal]

Just a casual 250MHz average clock increase

Using PBO

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00CN-00033?

This was $75 last night

[fossil cedar]

Idk for a 20 year old who's not having kids for at least 5 years i think I'm doing pretty good

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-00CN-00037?

White version of X3 is only $65

[fossil cedar]

Oh wait I'm 21 soon

[little osprey]

Literal bias

[fossil cedar]

Crap

[little osprey]

That's stupid

[fossil cedar]

For 65 that's a decent option

[little osprey]

My laptop battery is gonna die, and I gotta get up, but I'm in pain still from rolling my ATV earlier today 😭

[fossil cedar]

Uh probably shouldn't give that info out to public on server but it's this month

Birthdays can be part of security questions or something idk

Or whatever

Yano

[little osprey]

That was the most painful 20 steps I've taken in my life, I want to scream swear words at the top of my lungs

[paper summit]

Damn u ok

[frank stirrup]

Oh truuuuuuuu

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-my-prime-funny-ironic-age-old-gif-11480659

[frank stirrup]

Time to start picking out csgo gun skin

[little osprey]

I don't wanna say I broke something because I don't know

But I should get it checked out

It's 5 PM

[paper summit]

Yea def get it checked out

[little osprey]

So I'll sleep on it tonight and see how I feel tomorrow

My GF thinks it's a hairline fracture

[paper summit]

Stay safe too those things aren't light

[little osprey]

I don't know, all IK is it hurts BAD

[fossil cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/flush-toilet-press-gif-13733395

[paper summit]

Especially the canams lol

[fossil cedar]

Flushed get it

[frank stirrup]

Dam bro

[little osprey]

Yeah, I've never broken a bone before

So I don't know what that feels like

[paper summit]

I dont think ur catching thst

[fossil cedar]

They hurt like a female dog

[paper summit]

If it flips on u lol

U said u have a 2005 rancher?

Or older

[fossil cedar]

@elfin flame i did it again

[little osprey]

2012

[paper summit]

Ahh ok

Yea still

Heavy

[fossil cedar]

Lmfao

[little osprey]

I made the decision to try to turn going 30 corner and I lost control on the back wheels and I skimmed a tree and I think my from ram guard hooked and it threw me off

It rolled two times before landing on it's wheels again

[paper summit]

Big smart lol

[little osprey]

I just got out of it's way just in time

[little osprey]

Yeah, it was stupid, I should've just slowed down

So that costed me my ATV's handle bar, gonna have to find a replacement for that

And if I do go to the hospital tomorrow and find out something is broken I'm gonna be pissed

[paper summit]

Damn

[little osprey]

I'm still surprised my quad survived all that

[paper summit]

Hondas are tuff

[little osprey]

Yeah

Wait, today is Tuesday right?

[paper summit]

Once i get a job ima save for one

[paper summit]

Yea

[little osprey]

Try not to go over 4-5K on one

Find a good brand like Honda

[paper summit]

Yea idk what im getting yet

[vague oracle]

Build your own smh

[paper summit]

Want it for mud and work around the yard

[paper summit]

ITS A 4 WHEELER MY GUY

[little osprey]

Get an automatic 4WD utility ATV

400cc at the minimum

[vague oracle]

MAKE IT 8 WHEELS

[potent portal]

Put nitro on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTEfyPeTX1c

[paper summit]

Yea ik quiet a bit its just money lol

Thats the prob

[little osprey]

Don't go brand new if it's your first

Look local for used

[paper summit]

Dont need a big 850 can am lol

Yea used

[little osprey]

And for trusted brand, you shouldn't have to worry how much it's been used or how old it is

I was thinking about a 2002 ATV, forgot which one

But it was nice

[paper summit]

I like working on stuff so thats a plus

[little osprey]

Original listing for the Honda I wanted was 4K, but I was able to pick it up for 3.5K

[paper summit]

Niccee

[little osprey]

That'll pay off in the long run

Just because something is durable isn't an excuse not to take care of it

[paper summit]

Yea learned alot while living with my grandpa

[little osprey]

Good stuff

[paper summit]

Picking up old mowers and fixing em up

[little osprey]

Ride, zero turn, push?

[paper summit]

Push mainly

[little osprey]

Fair enough

[paper summit]

Cause easy to move lol

[little osprey]

Mhm

[paper summit]

Maybe i should start doing that

And selling them or sum

[little osprey]

I use a push to trim around stuff and then go over the main area with a ride

I think mine is a 48in

[little osprey]

Fixing stuff yourself and reselling it is a good way to profit

[paper summit]

I feel like push cuts better idk thats just me tho

[paper summit]

Yea

[little osprey]

Goes for anything that you can maintenance

[paper summit]

Mhhhmmm

[little osprey]

A lot easier to work with on smaller property, I think it does a cleaner job as well

Bigger mowers are just to get large area done quickly

[paper summit]

We have a decent sized property but my grandpa decided to plant a bunch of trees in random spots lmao

[little osprey]

Same here

[paper summit]

So its a pain on ride on plus its wet sometimes

Cause of the streaam

[little osprey]

Fair enough

[paper summit]

Ive sank more than id like to say lol

[little osprey]

Well I need to figure something out for dinner since I really can't move a lot without large amounts of pain

[paper summit]

Its getting better tho as we clear trees and try to push it further back

[little osprey]

I'll talk to you later

[paper summit]

Ight see ya

Feel better

[little osprey]

Good stuff

[little osprey]

Thanks, means a lot

[lament fulcrum]

4 more days and ill finally have a pc again 😭🙌

[jagged ember]

woo

pc hype

[empty pollen]

👍

[lament fulcrum]

Motherboard comes in tomorrow a day early so ill probably test tomorrow night and see if i have to buy a cpu or not

[toxic wraith]

is 12600kf worth

[toxic wraith]

W

[obsidian wigeon]

not really rn

13600kf would be better choice

but if the 12600kf is cheap enough, why not

[toxic wraith]

oh

the 13600kf will be 294 msrp

[little osprey]

I need a case that has a hinge door for accessing the inside of it and is budget and it's doesn't have too RGB overkill

Also a solid amount of pre-installed fans would be very nice too

Around $50-70

[paper summit]

Thats alot to ask for lol

[toxic wraith]

Ong

wait

the 13600kf is gonna be ddr5

[empty pollen]

no

will have ddr4 as well

stil not convinced on the 12400f?

[toxic wraith]

indecisive

im

[mossy venture]

13400f will be a rebranded 12600kf

13500 will be a 12600kf will extra e cores

[little osprey]

Asking for absolutely no RGB and that just has a side panel on hinges?

Only for $50-70?

[empty pollen]

to me it seems that you are not fully convinced to do the purchase on the first place xD

i get it, you are afraid 😛

[toxic wraith]

exactly

i jsut wanna find something good

[empty pollen]

just make the jump, sometimes you need a little push

and for your budgtet the 12400f is more than enough

[little osprey]

Case suggestions anyone?

[empty pollen]

ck560

[paper summit]

Ohhh i thought u said u want rgb overkill lol

[toxic wraith]

same

[empty pollen]

p360a

[toxic wraith]

is the p400a stilll good

[empty pollen]

it is

[paper summit]

Yea

[toxic wraith]

ok

[empty pollen]

this is my advice pheeny

[little osprey]

Nah, I hate RGB

[empty pollen]

fantastech is in a few days

wait for it to decide

[toxic wraith]

bro

[toxic wraith]

it gives quintuple fps boost

[empty pollen]

it will run for like 5 days on some massive deals

[toxic wraith]

damn

what site?

[paper summit]

Gpus are for loosers

[empty pollen]

if you lose that window then your lose

[empty pollen]

newegg

[little osprey]

Sexy case NGL

[empty pollen]

fantastech on october 10

[paper summit]

Ikr

[toxic wraith]

hm i see

[empty pollen]

it will run to october 15

[paper summit]

Looks alot better irl

[little osprey]

One sec

[paper summit]

Phone cam doesnt look great lol

In low light

[toxic wraith]

white seems like a cool color but im getting phanteks neon rgb strips for looks and it yellows so i cant do white but every other color is fine

[empty pollen]

you need to decide fast pheeny or you will probably miss deals till cyber monday

[toxic wraith]

OK

[empty pollen]

thats almost 2 months away

[toxic wraith]

im thinking either 12400f or 12600kf

[paper summit]

Yellow

[toxic wraith]

damnn

that lokos like orange

looks

[paper summit]

Ik its yellow irl

[empty pollen]

12600kf will need a better mobo and better ram to truly shine

[toxic wraith]

alr

[toxic wraith]

do i need like 3600mhz

[empty pollen]

if not it will be almost the same as the 12400

[paper summit]

Camera made it look white than i just cranked the color temp

[toxic wraith]

how much better is the 12600kf

[paper summit]

Lol

[little osprey]

@empty pollen, P360A supports Razer Chroma, kinda interested about that

[empty pollen]

most likely, if you run a 3200 on a 12600k then it will be no better than the 12400

[toxic wraith]

than the 12400a

[paper summit]

Piss fan

[toxic wraith]

f

[toxic wraith]

how much better is 12600kf than the 12400f

if its not much better im fine with my current build then

[empty pollen]

hard to describe, but the 12600k have p cores and e cores, plus being a K sku it will have better ram compatibility

also a better binned cpu

[toxic wraith]

uh

yeaa.......

[little osprey]

@empty pollen, P360A is $100 for the black version, sorry but I'm broke and need a cheaper case 😅

[empty pollen]

for gaming, it will be like a 12400, but the extra e-cores can handle more background tasks than the 12400

[toxic wraith]

is the white cheaper

i swear companies make black more expensive all the time

[obsidian wigeon]

g360a is cheaper

at 89.99

black version

[empty pollen]

or the ck560

[obsidian wigeon]

also actually that's the opposite

[empty pollen]

come with 4 fans already

[little osprey]

Still too much

[obsidian wigeon]

white usually costs more

[toxic wraith]

bro

its 10 bucks

nvm vnv

nvm

i sholdnt say

[paper summit]

Hmmmmm

[toxic wraith]

notbgiun

dont attack me pls

[little osprey]

I've come to realize that using a 12100 and a 1070 isn't gonna require more than two fans

[empty pollen]

so thats the thing pheny xD, dont miss next fantastech, or your wallet will regret it :P, or you will have to wait to cyber monday for some deals 😛

[obsidian wigeon]

you can actually run one fan in crap case lmao

[toxic wraith]

you says fantastech is in a few days

[obsidian wigeon]

linus did 12100 and 2060 in a cheap ass used case

[toxic wraith]

how much is a few days for you

[obsidian wigeon]

and it runs fine

[toxic wraith]

soooooooo

uh

[empty pollen]

october 10th

will run until 15th

[toxic wraith]

why is the kf more expensive than the k

[empty pollen]

maybe deals?

[obsidian wigeon]

it's to do with deals

[empty pollen]

usually the kf is cheaper, but the K recieve deals while the kf dont

[little osprey]

BALLS

NOT FAIR

[toxic wraith]

oh

makes sense

[little osprey]

DARN IT

[toxic wraith]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6ft9TW/gigabyte-b660m-aorus-pro-ax-ddr4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-b660m-aorus-pro-ax-ddr4

[little osprey]

My brithday is the 20th

[toxic wraith]

this wont work with the 12400kf?

[obsidian wigeon]

this will

just no cpu oc

[empty pollen]

there is no 12400kf

[obsidian wigeon]

but it doesn't matter

[toxic wraith]

Wtf is that

i mean

12600kf

[obsidian wigeon]

12600kf will work ya

[empty pollen]

it will work

[obsidian wigeon]

just no cpu oc

[toxic wraith]

WHATS CPU OC

overclock?

[obsidian wigeon]

overclocking cpu

yes

[toxic wraith]

oh ok

How oc

[obsidian wigeon]

don't worry about it

you'll need lots of cooling to do it lol

just gain a few percent of perf

[toxic wraith]

water?

[empty pollen]

but, whats the point of buying a k cpu to use it on a b660 anyway?

thats my point

[obsidian wigeon]

oc the gpu instead

[toxic wraith]

im asking for a reason

oh

[mossy venture]

Cpu overclocking is only worth it as a hobby

[toxic wraith]

oh

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[toxic wraith]

ok

ty guys

[obsidian wigeon]

or chasing benchmark scores

[toxic wraith]

ill just do t he

12400f

then

hm

so

[empty pollen]

12400f+b660 is wiser

[toxic wraith]

wait

performance boost clock?

[empty pollen]

all of them do that

the K skus can go beyond that point

thats oc

[toxic wraith]

oh

so

all of them can oc

just k's can go further

wait

nvm

all of them perf boost clock

just k's can oc

[empty pollen]

yes

[toxic wraith]

ohhh

ty

[empty pollen]

but to go beyond they need a z690 mobo

[toxic wraith]

hmm

alr

b600 u said?

[empty pollen]

was a typo

[toxic wraith]

oh lmao

ok

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353218?Item=N82E16811353218

[toxic wraith]

wpaj

woah

water cooling looks sick

[little osprey]

@empty pollen, no rear fan, but three frontal pre-insalled ones

[toxic wraith]

argb too

wait argb is when u can control it right

rgb is just rainbow

[obsidian wigeon]

no

rgb is controllable too

[toxic wraith]

oo

[obsidian wigeon]

but only one color for the whole thing

[toxic wraith]

ohhhh

[obsidian wigeon]

argb has zoning and effects

[toxic wraith]

so argb can be blue and red

at the samew time

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah

[toxic wraith]

makes sense

[obsidian wigeon]

rgb is one color only

[toxic wraith]

thanks

[little osprey]

Magenta and orange

But uhhh

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811353218?Item=N82E16811353218

Decent case for the price?

[obsidian wigeon]

looks like it

[little osprey]

Only thing it doesn't have that I want is the side panel to be on some hinges

[obsidian wigeon]

it's fine

can't expect hinged side panel at that price point lol

it simply won't happen

[toxic wraith]

omg

this is a dumb question but

can i do water cpu cooling because it looks awesome

[obsidian wigeon]

custom loop?

i wouldn't recc that

it needs lots of maintenance

[empty pollen]

if you have the budget for that you might as well upgrade other critical parts

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[little osprey]

I can make it happen with a hinge kit from Ace Hardware 😈

[toxic wraith]

not custom loop

just cpu

[obsidian wigeon]

ah

did you mean aio?

[toxic wraith]

yea

i guess

[obsidian wigeon]

you can

[toxic wraith]

also

isnt it a bit better for future upgrades

as well

[obsidian wigeon]

yeah if you get a good one

[little osprey]

IK the 12100 isn't the best option for running stuff in the background, but will it be able to run War Thunder with a 1070 with Discord, Spotify, and Brave running in the background?

[toxic wraith]

ive seen a lot of people playing war thunder recently is it good

[empty pollen]

remember that you are talking about a 4 core cpu

dont overburden the poor chip

it will run those yeah, but more it will slow down the pc

wt will eat a good chunk of your cpu already

[toxic wraith]

whats a good aio whatever its called for a good price

[empty pollen]

ek 240/360, liquid freezer2 280/360, ls720

[toxic wraith]

will a 360 fit on the top?

i doubt it since its a mid tower right

[empty pollen]

depend on the case

most mid towers can only fit a 280 max

[toxic wraith]

p400a

[empty pollen]

no

only 240 or 280

[toxic wraith]

alr

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-RGB-Multi-Compatible/dp/B08WRJ5MQW/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1A7S7BRVJ34A0&keywords=liquid+freezer+2+280&qid=1664940024&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjY2IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=liquid+freezer2+280%2Caps%2C140&sr=8-4

what about this

[empty pollen]

it will fit yes

[toxic wraith]

why does the thing the covers the cpu look like a scuba suit

[empty pollen]

they like to do it like that

[toxic wraith]

hold up

ima try to find anotha one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08L8PQ3ZF/ref=ewc_pr_img_2?smid=A1Y23DX9BBC64P&psc=1

[empty pollen]

bad

[toxic wraith]

ok

[cyan ravine]

Meh

[empty pollen]

go with the three i gave to you, EK , LF2 or LS

[toxic wraith]

u gave me three?

wait

[empty pollen]

ek240, LS520 or LF2 240/280

[toxic wraith]

oh this

https://www.amazon.com/CoolerMaster-MasterLiquid-Close-Loop-Cooler-SickleFlow/dp/B086BYYFG5/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1YGCF08EKAPD1&keywords=lf2&qid=1664940236&s=electronics&sprefix=l%2Celectronics%2C171&sr=1-4

?

[empty pollen]

masterclogger

[toxic wraith]

uh

is that

one

[empty pollen]

look above, those 3

any other is meh at best, and terrible at worst

[toxic wraith]

oh u made them longer

didnt see my bad

[empty pollen]

cant rememebr the fourth one... lemme check

oh yes

[cyan ravine]

ML240L is actually good

[empty pollen]

lian li galahad as well

[cyan ravine]

The V2