a lot faster i might add
#building-and-recc-chat
empty pollen
empty pollen
6600xt is below a 3060ti on performance, while the 6700xt is slightly better than the 60ti
empty pollen
Pretty sure it's about a 3070
not really, no
paper summit
Dont worry about it lol
paper summit
Amazon ridiculous
empty pollen
lately amd cards are the better choice in price/performance
unless you need the cuda cores for cad things, amd beats nvidia these days
empty pollen
nor that it matters this gen
paper summit
Yah
ruby umbra
I dont really need raytracing anyway
That's pretty much the question I asked
"Rtx or no"
paper summit
Idk maybe
empty pollen
unless you can get a 6700xt at a really low price i should stick to 6600xt for 1440p and jump directly to 6800xt for 4k
paper summit
Maybe with an oc
empty pollen
6700xt is not that far from the 6600xt, much like a 60ti from a 3070, thats why you skip from 60ti to 3080 directly unless you get a real cheap deal on a 3070/70ti
earnest olive
...what
ruby umbra
Whar
empty pollen
then i have my facts wrong on the 6700xt 🤨
jagged ember
3060ti and 3070 is not a marginal difference...
earnest olive
you have your facts wrong on both my guy
empty pollen
hmm noted
earnest olive
i truly dont know why everyone acts like the 3070 and 3060ti are the same thing
lol
empty pollen
i was under the impression of a 10% so so
ruby umbra
Even if it was
jagged ember
i truly dont know why everyone acts like the 3070 and 3060ti are the same thing
they truly are not
earnest olive
even my laptop 3070 beats a desktop 3060ti
earnest olive
calling 6700xt and 6600xt the same thing is like calling 3060ti and 3060 the same thing
6600xt is the 3060 competitor and 6700xt is the 3060ti competitor
empty pollen
6600xt is the 3060 competitor and 6700xt is the 3060ti competitor
yeah this one i had it right, the other wrong
good thing to have it clarified
earnest olive
https://youtu.be/6FkQdAViLIs
this video calls R5 5600X a 12 core cpu
paper summit
Aint no way bruh lol
empty pollen
thats a common mistake, to call threads as cores
paper summit
Like i said i just skipped thru the vid
stoic island
i truly dont know why everyone acts like the 3070 and 3060ti are the same thing
Pcmr liked to push that 3060ti oced could match 3070, without caring that 3070 could be OCed
empty pollen
much like the Mhz on Megatransfers in memory
earnest olive
what on earth
earnest olive
Pcmr liked to push that 3060ti oced could match 3070, without caring that 3070 c...
that's the thing... stock 3070 can't even be matched by oc 3060ti unless you win silicon lottery
paper summit
Seems legit
earnest olive
and 3070s generally have far more headroom than 3060tis as well
stoic island
Mhm
earnest olive
since 3060ti is literally just a low bin 3070
stoic island
3060ti OCed could get within like 5% of 3070 and that was good enough for people
earnest olive
a lot of youtube benchmarks are complete garbage
earnest olive
more fake benchmarks than real ones
ruby umbra
Unleash the gaming cooler
stoic island
Powercolor is nice
paper summit
Yea
stoic island
more fake benchmarks than real ones
More that don't really know what they're doing
earnest olive
3060ti OCed could get within like 5% of 3070 and that was good enough for people
i mean sure, until you oc the 3070 to a 20% lead
stoic island
Yup
earnest olive
i wanna see someone get anywhere close to this on an unmodified 3060ti
stoic island
Like I'll agree 3060ti is great value in the Nvidia stack but it's not a 3070 for 100$ cheaper
stoic island
This was my first stock run iirc
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/26291283
ruby umbra
i wanna see someone get anywhere close to this on an unmodified 3060ti
I will now try the 3d mark demo
As I am curious
stoic island
This was on a slight OC
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27310514
ruby umbra
Time spy time
ruby umbra
I should bench my laptop
It's only a few pounds
ruby umbra
I hope you can
earnest olive
probably not stock
stoic island
Lol
fossil cedar
Oh lol
grim wraith
fossil cedar
Oh maybe
fossil cedar
Depends what the hwbot post was for
Did a cpu one for the intel open thingy on stock gpu iirirc
earnest olive
fossil cedar
Cuz bench os
stoic island
Kek
earnest olive
laptop gaming
paper summit
Prob sounds like a jet engine
earnest olive
sad, laptop cpu hotter
ruby umbra
"Powered by Nvidia"
Okay lego star wars
earnest olive
Depends what the hwbot post was for
i just googled 3060ti time spy results and yours showed up lmao
i've never had a 3060ti so i need to compare to others instead of my own 😦
earnest olive
well i had 2 3060tis i just never got to open them
google knows i love you so it showed me your time spy
ruby umbra
I should buy a busted gpu just to display
earnest olive
i should ask asus for my broken 3090 back
paper summit
well i had 2 3060tis i just never got to open them
I want one
ruby umbra
"No buzz off"
paper summit
I want one
Lol
paper summit
Lol
mossy venture
i just googled 3060ti time spy results and yours showed up lmao
Still salty my top 100 score didn't get counted and I couldn't repeat it
paper summit
Did u buy em or get them sent to u
paper summit
Nicee
mossy venture
I entered shuffle 60 something times
earnest olive
so i did a lil sharing of the kindness
dusk ginkgo
Just found a molex connector that runs from my case to my psu, do I really need to plug it in cause I don't even use molex?
fossil cedar
i've never had a 3060ti so i need to compare to others instead of my own 😦
Oc'd i get 12945 idk if that's the highest but good nough
earnest olive
i won like 6 gpus off of shuffle i think, 3 went to friends immediately, 1 went to a friend eventually
mossy venture
Oc'd i get 12945 idk if that's the highest but good nough
My highest is I think 13200
Highest that counted was 12900 something
earnest olive
Oc'd i get 12945 idk if that's the highest but good nough
i was just demonstrating that if oced 3060ti is barely even beating my laptop 3070, you can assume 3060ti and 3070 are not the same graphics card lol
i am tired of people saying they are the same card
earnest olive
17% both stock
mossy venture
Oh really?
earnest olive
3070 has more oc headroom in general
mossy venture
Thought it was much less
ruby umbra
Haven't done anything OC related
mossy venture
3070 has more oc headroom in general
Especially considering how many 3060 tis are single pin
earnest olive
my air cooled 3070 chilling at 15488
ruby umbra
Mostly cause idk how
mossy venture
I'm planning to bench some more when I buy my new cpu
earnest olive
lmao right now i feel like theres no point benching when i have an i3
mossy venture
I might get into cpu ocing and ram tuning, though atm I don't have much spare time
ruby umbra
I ain't good at all that
paper summit
Haven't done anything OC related
Empty ur recycling bin lol
earnest olive
i should do i3 time spy
ruby umbra
Empty ur recycling bin lol
no
mossy venture
Days that I work and have school, I literally have 0 free time
earnest olive
i wonder if my i3 beats ryzen 5 3600 in time spy yet
mossy venture
Go to school at 6:45, leave work at 9pm
mossy venture
i wonder if my i3 beats ryzen 5 3600 in time spy yet
Probably
earnest olive
maybe i'll do it after i finish retuning my ram
mossy venture
I think mine gets 7700?
earnest olive
last step is to tune tREFI
mossy venture
Don't quote me on that, but its def in the mid 7000s
ruby umbra
I hear the "oc the 6700xt for a 6750xt" joke alot
Is the 6750xt that bad
Or somrthin
mossy venture
Its about 3070 ti I believe
mossy venture
Which is barely better than 3070
earnest olive
no
fossil cedar
i was just demonstrating that if oced 3060ti is barely even beating my laptop 30...
Oh right yeah
ruby umbra
My temps are pretty good tho
earnest olive
3070ti is more like the 6800
fossil cedar
Didn't realize the stock difference was that much tho yikes
ruby umbra
My temps are pretty good tho
Better pic my bad
earnest olive
if guru3d is to be believed
mossy venture
Because I've thought it was very close, but if I'm wrong I'd like to be corrected rather than tell others false info
earnest olive
Better pic my bad
i think your gpu was running hotter than my laptop gpu
mossy venture
My 3060 ti sits under 70c with 100% on fans iirc
During timespy
Not that that's sustainable
ruby umbra
I prob should try an OC
My psu should be good enough
I'll harass people in the OC channel about it
mossy venture
I think I still have the 7th best score
Nope, 14th
earnest olive
i hope there are no more 4gb cards xx50 cards next generation
dark nova
I don’t remember who all here had helped but wanted to happily update y’all, the 3070 is in! Now to sell a 1660 🤣
earnest olive
3050ti losing to 1660ti mobile
fossil cedar
4040 3gb when 
mossy venture
4060 2gb when
fossil cedar
3050ti losing to 1660ti mobile
It's actually embarrassing
mossy venture
4090 512mb when
earnest olive
life was happier when i didn't remember the rtx 2050
fossil cedar
When 1660 ti is basically 2050 ti no RT and it beats 3050 ti kek
mossy venture
Idk why nvidia keeps making so many low end gpus that compete with eachother
fossil cedar
Lol
ruby umbra
Low profile 6600 when
mossy venture
6500xt and 6400 should've been pcie powered and low profile
ruby umbra
Isn't the 6400 pcie powered?
young fox
one other quick question, if u guys built a pc how long did it take u
ruby umbra
Like 3 hours because I am bad at it
young fox
i thought that was short lmao
ruby umbra
6500xt and 6400 should've been pcie powered and low profile
There's the a2000
But it's like $800
mossy venture
Yeah
ruby umbra
Genuinely would go down to 1080p for it
Imagine a SFF case with it
Or something like that
Such a cool little card
earnest olive
depends on the pc and the amount of effort you're putting into it
my first build was 3 hours
my current build was also 3 hours but it has a ridiculous amount of extra cosmetic stuff
my best speedrun thus far is 2 mins 13 sec
ruby umbra
Rebuilding only took me some 2 hours
Probably not good but eh
Modular psu really helped
mossy venture
my first build was 3 hours
Comparatively, it took me like 45min just to put a new psu in lmao. Just varies on experience
ruby umbra
worst part was putting the fan onto the cpu cooler with those paper clips
mossy venture
Also took me like 40min to literally just put a new heatsink in because I couldn't get the little plate behind the motherboard to stay still
And I dropped a screw driver on my motherboard three times while doing so
Somehow didn't break
mossy venture
Idk who allowed me to mess with pcs but they should be fired
ruby umbra
You
ruby umbra
This took me like an hour to do
mossy venture
Oh hey same heatsink I think
ruby umbra
I'm just built different
mossy venture
224xt right?
ruby umbra
Yea
Just put on a spare arctic fan
probably better then stock?
6700xt is so long lmao
mossy venture
There's nothing I can say to that that won't sound dirty
ruby umbra
"Hopefully runs cool"
mossy venture
Well I was going to say "I think my 3060 ti is bigger" but...
mossy venture
I drink diet coke, it balances out the 6 cakes I eat for breakfast
paper summit
Real
mossy venture
America, land of guns and cheeseburgers
mossy venture
Just scribble it out and write 1080p
ruby umbra
720p*
ruby umbra
Real ps3 gaming
mossy venture
I run 1080p on my 3060 ti
mossy venture
I also ran a 6800xt at 1080p
paper summit
I prefer resolution to crazy high fps
paper summit
That's ps2
Oh ya lol
ruby umbra
1440p for the games I play?
Frame rates are over 120fps usually
I only use high settings because lmao
Looks the same as very high to me
paper summit
Bruh
mossy venture
I would be playing at 1440p, but amazon canceled my order
paper summit
Ok nvm
paper summit
I would be playing at 1440p, but amazon canceled my order
Rip
potent portal
Can the 730 even output 4k lmao
mossy venture
I bought an m27q-x for $320
paper summit
Can the 730 even output 4k lmao
No
mossy venture
But rip
ruby umbra
Can the 730 even output 4k lmao
Mmmm Google spread sheets
potent portal
Well the official spec says yes it outputs 4k
ruby umbra
4k 48fps
potent portal
At 24hz
ruby umbra
Clearly all you're doing at that level of gpu is like
paper summit
Lol
paper summit
True
ruby umbra
I can see the appeal of a low profile in an office computer or somethin
Just for movies and all that
mossy venture
I hate ebay
They tried charging me $90 for canceling a listing
I just made a new account
Because no
ruby umbra
"Ebay"
Optimus prime
ruby umbra
They tried charging me $90 for canceling a listing
I had to pay $50 for canceling a bid no one bidded one
dusk ginkgo
Two hours later and I've finished
mossy venture
Nice
dusk ginkgo
Is that blocking a ram slot
Elaborate
ruby umbra
Ah
dusk ginkgo
Must have been the angle lol
ruby umbra
Looks it from the picture
dusk ginkgo
I'll take photos of the back but here is what it was before
No care given for my boot drive
After
analog pulsar
@fossil cedar when is Intel 13th gen "rumored" to come out
empty pollen
october
dusk ginkgo
Ssds are meant to be thrown
Yeah but it was negligent still that I just had it there loosely hanging
Also the bloody bulge
fossil cedar
<@191276897227898880> when is Intel 13th gen "rumored" to come out
The k cpus will come out in October
ruby umbra
Yeah but it was negligent still that I just had it there loosely hanging
I lay it in the hdd cage and call it a day
analog pulsar
The k cpus will come out in October
Could I build a system and wait for 13th gen to come out
empty pollen
be like sips
analog pulsar
Like maybe get a i3 with igpu system
dusk ginkgo
I lay it in the hdd cage and call it a day
That's what I did lol, I put it underneath it and made sure it wouldn't touch the hot hdd and called it done
analog pulsar
That's what I was thinking
ruby umbra
I just don't use a hdd
I am impatient
I have an nvme boot and ssd for storage
Might buy another NVME when black Friday rolls around
empty pollen
i thought on that as well... but i will wait, maybe 760s mobos have nice upgrades over the actual 660s
fossil cedar
Could I build a system and wait for 13th gen to come out
Sure i thought you already had a 12100 tho?
analog pulsar
Sure i thought you already had a 12100 tho?
No
Like I said before it's not mine
I don't have access to it anymore
I don't have any claims to it
Brb I'm going to PC partpicker
analog pulsar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FtBMyK @fossil cedar ill get this cheap CPU haha
fossil cedar
Sure although I'd go different ssd and ram tbh
analog pulsar
yea i just changed cpu on this list nothing else
analog pulsar
Yea I'm gunn change some stuff
analog pulsar
Can never have to much wattage
Nah for real tho can someone pick me out a high wattage power supply idk what's good
empty pollen
empty pollen
Oof 4000 C18 Gear 2
yeah though the same xD nothing against royals (if you have the money go ahead) but 4000c18 on quad D:
empty pollen
this destroyed my heart 🤢
analog pulsar
analog pulsar
this destroyed my heart 🤢
Why
mighty lantern
Why in gods name would anyone even need 2000W even with 2 GPUs
analog pulsar
Why in gods name would anyone even need 2000W even with 2 GPUs
Bruh
analog pulsar
six hundred on a psu, why? D: just why D:
Hahahahahaa
@mighty lantern 4090 wants to say hello
mighty lantern
I mean with current gen tho
analog pulsar
I'm not going currently gen and even then 3090 ti pulls 1200W
cyan ravine
What
empty pollen
still
mighty lantern
I mean who even uses the 3090ti anyways tho 😂
empty pollen
@analog pulsar For next gen you should aim to a atx3.0 compliant psu, you will probably need 2x12vhpwr connectors
cyan ravine
3090 Ti pulls with 650W excursions
empty pollen
not that hela unit
mighty lantern
3090ti is not even worth it over the 3090 since the performance difference is so small for the increase in power consumption
cyan ravine
1200W is a kingpin vbios made with no protections in mind and pure xoc
You'll never pull that much lol
Not to mention next gen is just, it's basically here and we're talking about a last gen card 
mighty lantern
spaghetti monster
cyan ravine
It won't be more than a 2x12vhpwr
cyan ravine
Unless you want a block of metal for your workstation
nova linden
wondering what headset to upgrade to? Ive had corsair virtuosos for a while but now the cushions are degrading bc of humidity. (what about iems, been looking into them but not sure)
empty pollen
you cant purchase some new cushions for yours? im under the impression that the virtuoso are top tier headphones, they should have ear cushion replacements available
nova linden
you cant purchase some new cushions for yours? im under the impression that the ...
they dont tho that the problem, they also dont have battery replacements
nova linden
battery says its should be long but now its lasting 2ish hrs max
nova linden
sad to hear that, i hope those served you a long long time 😦
yea they were great
analog pulsar
<@528024627176407062> For next gen you should aim to a atx3.0 compliant psu, yo...
Find me 1
Maybe this
Power supply and ram be changed idk what to get
rich void
🤔
mossy venture
I know it's just a stop gap but celeron with a 360mm is funny lol
Also that 4400mhz ram will likely have issues
Anything over 3200mhz will have issues with a locked chip
Psu is also disgustingly priced
analog pulsar
I know it's just a stop gap but celeron with a 360mm is funny lol
Yes funny but it's temp holder for 13th gen
mossy venture
Yes funny but it's temp holder for 13th gen
That is exactly what I said
analog pulsar
Oh that's what stop gap means
topaz plank
I am attempting to put together a pc build for the first time and was wondering if anyone could help me
My budget is 1300
mossy venture
I am attempting to put together a pc build for the first time and was wondering ...
Country?
ripe spear
Good like 80% of people on here is from the US so i would assume the US
analog pulsar
Good like 80% of people on here is from the US so i would assume the US
No stop assuming
empty pollen
Good like 80% of people on here is from the US so i would assume the US
more like 50% you will be surprised to see the diversity here
in fact most of the time ppl that ask for help are canadians
thats why bacca ask about it everytime instead of assuming
cyan ravine
limber oyster
Is it better for pumps to have them going all the time or should I shut down my PC when not in use? I have an aio for my CPU and a seperate aio for my GPU. I'm more worried about algea and other build up vs lifespan
dusk ginkgo
Is it better for pumps to have them going all the time or should I shut down my ...
I mean isn't there cleaning processes and cleaners?
limber oyster
There is. but I'd rather do it, for example, every 6 months with my thermal paste vs monthly
Cause every cleaning requires reapplication of thermal paste as well
So ...
dusk ginkgo
You repaste every 6 months?
limber oyster
6 months to a year
dusk ginkgo
Oh to a year that's what I do
dusk ginkgo
You got it on a desk I hope
limber oyster
I de-dust/fur once a month and repast 6 months to a year depending on use
dusk ginkgo
If dust is a big issue at least elevate it
limber oyster
With cardboard underneath to prevent scratches and such
The fridge is about 3-4 ft tall
limber oyster
Full of soda and two tubs of cookie dough 🤤🤤
Once I get my own place and move out of parents I plan to build my own desk and either build the PC into the desk or make a holder for it.
The desk will also be collapsible, almost like Legos
dusk ginkgo
Ikea pretty much
limber oyster
But more custom
dusk ginkgo
Modular
limber oyster
Like... literally make it myself
dusk ginkgo
I wanna really build a sleeper
limber oyster
Mines anything but 😂😂😂
dusk ginkgo
Idk why but I have the urge to go to a flea market and find an old pc and upgrade the crap out if it
limber oyster
Mines over in #build-pics if you wanna see it
dusk ginkgo
I seen it, I was the one who spoke to you about tubed and rad positions about 7-8 hours ago
limber oyster
Ahh I remember now
dusk ginkgo
Yessir
limber oyster
More like 12 plus lol
dusk ginkgo
Usually I'm never up this late but I got a lot of sleep the night before so I'm not tired
limber oyster
I work nights....
dusk ginkgo
Im not working... but I have a interview next Monday. I quit my old job at Tim Hortons lol they didn't provide enough for my extensive pc needs
Anyway what's your pc specs?
limber oyster
Uhh....give me a sec to type it all out
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
CPU cooler: Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora pro 360mm
GPU: Asus ROG Strix OC Gaming 3080 10GB RTX
GPU cooler: Alphacool Eiswolf 2 360mm
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero Wi-Fi x570
PSU: Asus ROG Thor 850w 80+ platinum
Case: Asus tuff gt501
Ram: 4x8GB 3200mhz cl16 Corsair Vengeance RGB pro
Storage: 3x1TB SN850, 1tb 980 pro, 2tb crucial bx500
Let me know if I'm missing anything
fossil cedar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FtBMyK <@191276897227898880> ill get this cheap CP...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q7JY2m
But btw your rams not gonna run at xmp with that cpu
frigid night
Once I get my own place and move out of parents I plan to build my own desk and ...
Something like this that I made for my own tower?
limber oyster
Something like this that I made for my own tower?
Kinda, but an actual full on desk
I'll have channels to route power cables and then panels to go over the channels to hide them
Probably gonna be made out of 2x4s and plywood
Similar materials to yours
frigid night
Yeah. It was pretty cheap to make.
limber oyster
And im.thinking of actually integrating the PC INTO the desk
Like the PC will be built into the desk table with a polycarbonate top so you can see inside....or something similar
And the intake fans will be the left/right side of the table and the rear of the table will be exhaust
What you think? @frigid night
empty pollen
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q7JY2m
But btw your rams not gonna run at xmp with...
the cpu is a place holder, much like sips i3
as long as those sticks work for now, it should be fine i guess
fossil cedar
as long as those sticks work for now, it should be fine i guess
Indeed just letting them know
analog pulsar
Okay btw in gunna change cpu to an i3
frigid night
Just wait a month
I might wait a bit before I decide which one I want. I want to look at what thermals people are getting on which cpu with which AIOs
cyan ravine
Thermals are gonna be better
This was confirmed by Dyno
There's more e cores so a bigger die, so less heat concentration
frigid night
Ah. So I could potentially use my galahad or lfii 360 on the 13900?
cyan ravine
Yeah
frigid night
Id want to oc if I could.
cyan ravine
If it works on what you have now, it'll definitely be better on next gen
frigid night
I only have 12600k atm
cyan ravine
13900K will in all likeliness be coolable with regular means again
cyan ravine
I'm wondering if I should retire my 5900X when next gen arrives
Maybe change cases again for my 2nd system
weak kindle
Runs very cool at yeet volts that on retail silicon will run at not potato freq
empty pollen
I might wait a bit before I decide which one I want. I want to look at what ther...
not like we mortals can buy one at launch anyway
bots and scalpers will win the first month no doubt
frigid night
bots and scalpers will win the first month no doubt
Become a bot. 
empty pollen
at least we will have a glimpse of that with the ryzen launch
man, days are so slow lately, i want to be in october!
analog pulsar
Just wait a month
No I need something now
analog pulsar
Indeed just letting them know
But will it run on 13th gen
I'm sure high speed will
fossil cedar
But will it run on 13th gen
Yes
analog pulsar
Okay
young fox
does anyone here do any cad like fusion on solidworks?
ornate condor
Alright guys having weird issue with my ram stick . it doesn't work in my mobo but working on another mobo 
My mobo also working with another rams
ornate condor
Gigabyte Z690 aorus elite ax ddr4
Corsair vengeance rgb pro
Worst mobo and rams lol 
mighty lantern
corsair vengeance rgb ram is so bad 
its so pretentious it barely works on any mobo
cyan ravine
The good thing about vengeance pro is they list the version number on the back so you can look up what chips each stick uses
The bad thing is IC mixing lol
Have you tried that sus stick on it's own in that board
ornate condor
Have you tried that sus stick on it's own in that board
Not working.
cyan ravine
Sadge
ornate condor
Mobo works with another stick of kit and another 3600mhz ram together
cyan ravine
I bet if you stress tested it in the other board that works it'll throw a lot of errors
ornate condor
But that sus stick works on another mobo
cyan ravine
Unless this is a clear cmos moment
ornate condor
I bet if you stress tested it in the other board that works it'll throw a lot of...
No I didn't stress test but it booted
mighty lantern
stuff's pickier than a toddler with sensory food aversion
cyan ravine
Boot ≠ stable
ornate condor
Mobo stuck at dram light sus stick of ram
cyan ravine
If it boots it just means one board can train it better, doesn't mean it's going to run windows without issue
mighty lantern
tbh I would get non rgb ram, rgb ram causes more problems than it's worth
ornate condor
it's brand new 
mighty lantern
seems about right
I bought some of the same ram one time and didn't work out of the box, not even a post with 1 stick of it installed 💀
went back to some tforce stuff and it posted just fine
cyan ravine
Tforce is at least quite consistent
cyan ravine
it's brand new <:pepeF:919263599459983391>
Take it straight back and tell them it doesn't work
mighty lantern
Tforce is at least quite consistent
absolutely
cyan ravine
Ask for a full refund then get something else like Silicon Power Gaming 16gb/32gb
Or G.skill ripjaws
Tforce delta rgb
There's a few decent budget choices
jagged ember
true
ornate condor
I love trident z royals 
jagged ember
gskill gang
cyan ravine
Gang skill
mighty lantern
i'm not familiar with DDR5 options so I just have been accepting the oloy blade stuff I got with my pc
it works and I've had no issues with it so that's all I can hope for tbh 🤷♂️
cyan ravine
If it's a pair of black oloy blades d5 they're meh
The stainless steel ones are the OP M die kit
Well, formerly OP
mighty lantern
it's the 4800MHz RGB variant
cyan ravine
Yeah those sound like the black sticks
mighty lantern
yeah this one
I mean, hell, they work, and I've got 32 gig, plenty for gaming and browsing/streaming stuff so :P
cyan ravine
Could be anything but likely micron lol
Ye it's fine
I mean it's better than vengememes
jagged ember
lol
mighty lantern
not really in the market to spend a bunch on better ram so i'll deal with meh ram lol
little osprey
Hey guys I’m currently trying to build my first pc, getting a bit confused with the ddr4/ddr5 ram. Does it make that much of a difference/do I really need ddr5 over ddr4?
mighty lantern
Not particularly no. Especially when DDR4 is generally much cheaper
It will barely make a difference if all you’re going to do is game with it
mossy venture
Ddr5 only worth if you get a good sale on it
mossy venture
Hey guys I’m currently trying to build my first pc, getting a bit confused with ...
What's your budget for the whole build and what country are you in?
I could make you a build list if you'd like
mighty lantern
Plus DDR5 motherboards are not compatible with DDR4 ram so you’d be locked in with something like that.
little osprey
Budget is about $1800, if necessary I could be willing to go up an additional $200ish and I’m in the US
mossy venture
Is that including monitor and peripherals, or just tower?
Do you have any preferences about looks and such?
little osprey
Just tower, I’ve already gotten a monitor, kbm etc etc
mossy venture
And lastly would you like wifi included or are you going to use ethernet
little osprey
Ethernet
mossy venture
May I ask what resolution and refresh rate monitor?
mighty lantern
I was about to ask that haha
mossy venture
Oh wait I forgot one thing, do you plan to overclock
little osprey
I’ll be 100% honest, I’m not sure what overclocking is. Still very new to all of this
little osprey
Yes haha
mossy venture
And do you care about looks?
little osprey
And as far as looks go, I’d like it to be all black with exception to fans etc which I’d like to have rgb of some kind
little osprey
Thank you 🙏🏼
little osprey
Thanks I’ll definitely look into it
fossil cedar
@little osprey i would grab the deepcool ak620 instead cooler wise, the cooler @mossy venture recommended has some issues
Also would consider this ram
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Df6Kp
analog pulsar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/98mnNc is this good or is Cl16 ram better
fossil cedar
Just get cl16, it's not better but that ram is b die, bad value especially just for xmp
jagged ember
wtf is that ram price
analog pulsar
Just get cl16, it's not better but that ram is b die, bad value especially just ...
whats b die
jagged ember
200 for 32gb lmao
analog pulsar
okay yall probs can answer this but what is like estimite you think 13900k and 4090 gunna produce
ill just get 1600W psu like that is in pc list just for precautions
little osprey
@mossy venture I’ve seen some builds that have rgb tubing I assume for water cooled pcs. Are there similar options for other pcs? Like rgb tubes for cable management etc? Or is that only possible for water cooled?
mossy venture
<@!654444344274845698> I’ve seen some builds that have rgb tubing I assume for w...
Afaik just water cooled
little osprey
Damn, guess I’ll have to wait for the dream pc build then lol
mossy venture
Custom loops very much are not worth it
You'll spend easily 1k just on the water cooling parts, and if you mess just one thing up you can easily break the whole pc
fossil cedar
whats b die
Samsungs overclocking die, very expensive, if you check the list i did for you yesterday there's 3600c16 that's rgb for like 30$ less
fossil cedar
ill just get 1600W psu like that is in pc list just for precautions
Get a 1200w and call it a day
fossil cedar
<@!654444344274845698> I’ve seen some builds that have rgb tubing I assume for w...
That "rgb" tubing is just water cooling but the liquid in the tubes is dyed
analog pulsar
Samsungs overclocking die, very expensive, if you check the list i did for you y...
I did see that I thought it was just regular ram okay I'll change it
fossil cedar
I mean you dont need to go with the one i recommended but yeah don't bother with b die
Also 1600w psu is Overkill
Why did it auto capitalise that :/
analog pulsar
Wait are you saying to by b die or not I'm confused
fossil cedar
Don't buy b die
Am saying you don't have to get the 3600cl16 kit i recommended if you prefer the trident z look I'd personally just save the 30$
mossy venture
unless you're ram tuning, there is absolutely no point to b die or rev e
fossil cedar
At this stage if you're buying new b die just go ddr5 instead
mossy venture
mm
fossil cedar
Yes the 3600c14 kit is b die
analog pulsar
Oh
mortal garnet
is there anyway to tell whether if you psu or gpu is shorting?
empty pollen
yeah, normally it will make a spark and it will shut down
followed by an electrical fire
mortal garnet
man, my pc is having weird issues but theyre so random so its hard to tell what the problem is
empty pollen
unless you have an electrical fire, then no, you dont have a short circuit
must be something else
rich void
One way to test what's failing is to swap out a suspect part for a known good one. If the problem goes away you can have some confidence the swapped out one had an issue
Weird issues can be bad drivers, depends what you're running into
mortal garnet
dont have any spare gpus or psus on me unfortunately
empty pollen
but whats happening in the first place?
mortal garnet
ill make a list
bc its a few random things
- Pc stuck at motherboard loading screen
- Monitor get no signal at all
- Monitors lose signal when swapping to 144hz
- Pc not booting when second monitor plugged in
- Monitors not booting when using a specific dp on gpu
mossy venture
updoot bios
mortal garnet
this jus started after i moved, i checked my surge protector and the outlet im using so its def a pc related issue
ill try to flash it
empty pollen
do you have an igpu?
mortal garnet
nah
had none of these issues til i moved, checked to see if any ram sticks etc came lose but its all good
ill flash bios tho and see what happens
mortal garnet
didn't solve it
young fox
how well does a 1660ti do for gaming at 1080p and 1440p gaming
potent portal
1440p you'll probably be doing low settings if you also want high refresh rate. Some games will be too hard for it in 1440p also.
spiral basin
Does a 3060 beat a 1080 ti in gaming?
paper summit
Idk about a 3060 but a 3060ti would
mighty lantern
idk according to userbenchmark 3060ti vs 1080ti is a bit of a wash
though tbh if you're more about the ray tracing the 3060 is going to be better in that front generally
cyan ravine
3060 gets close to a 1080 Ti stock, overclocked tho 1080Ti is a sizeable amount faster
mossy venture
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mossy venture
rough estimate, they're pretty similar. In raw performance, i believe 1080 ti wins
cyan ravine
I also wouldn't consider ray tracing in any degree
mossy venture
mhm
mighty lantern
Yeah I mean ray tracing is situational at best so I’d get that
But I was not aware of that about userbench
spiral basin
rough estimate, they're pretty similar. In raw performance, i believe 1080 ti wi...
But what about all the other stuff like DLSS, clock speeds and the extra VRAM?
mighty lantern
So good to know
spiral basin
I know that the 3060 is more energy efficient but I’m not too concerned with that tbh
cyan ravine
Extra vram is an edge case in today's scape for people that can use it in workstation
mossy venture
But what about all the other stuff like DLSS, clock speeds and the extra VRAM?
its a single gb of extra vram that neither of the cards will utilize in most tasks
dlss, 3060 def has that advantage but fsr 2.0 works with 1080 ti, and even so i wouldn't personally run 1440p on either, though it isn't the worst thing
cyan ravine
DLSS helps a 3060 yes but a 1080Ti scales ridiculously well with overclocking
mossy venture
clock speeds just affect performance, even if one has higher ones it doesn't really matter
spiral basin
Oh, what’s FSR?
mossy venture
basically amds version of dlss, but it works for nvidia cards too
spiral basin
I’d be willing to buy used, but would the 3060 be better for “future proofing”?
spiral basin
Hmm alright, thanks for the info!
I might wait until next gen launches so maybe I can snag one for even cheaper
paper summit
yea personly id get a 6650xt
mighty lantern
If you’re gonna be playing current triple a titles nvidia gpu is generally better iirc
mossy venture
If you’re gonna be playing current triple a titles nvidia gpu is generally bette...
not really, maybe at same tier gpus but that would be 3060 vs 6600
not 6650xt
silent osprey
Later asking in a 2nd server is cringe BTW, lol. People should go to tech powerup or w/e and compare for themselves. 
spiral basin
Later asking in a 2nd server is cringe BTW, lol. People should go to tech poweru...
I just like getting as much info as I can before making sorta big decisions, sorry.
silent osprey
All good. Just a funny thing to see, and quite often from various people, then the other amswers are similar. 
spiral basin
Yes, the general consensus is to go for a 6600/6650XT instead so I’m glad they corroborate
silent osprey
Also remember 6650 XT is pretty much an oc'd 6600 XT.
spiral basin
Oh I haven’t looked a whole lot into that yet, but will do
stoic island
It's just a better binned 6600xt, if it's the same price, go for 6650xt, if its much more expensive, don't go for it
empty pollen
Yeah I mean ray tracing is situational at best so I’d get that
i wouldn't turn on ray tracing on a 3060, it will tank your performance hard. hell i wouldn't consider it on a 3090ti either.
rich void
i wouldn't turn on ray tracing on a 3060, it will tank your performance hard. h...
Depends what you're playing and why on a 3080 or higher. It can be perfectly fine on single player titles especially if they have good dlss implementations
empty pollen
yeah but the rt impact is so minimal on most games that it wouldn't matter anyway to tank your fps for some reflections. unless minecraft or those shiny glass buildings on spiderman remaster
its like day and night the reflections on the glass windows on buildings with rt on and off
hopefully in the short future more games will implement rt in a more meaningful way to make ray tracing a game changer instead of a performance destroyer
jagged ember
unreal engine 5 moment
mighty crow
Best prebuilt pc for around 1k?
ruby umbra
What are you using it for?
Just gaming?
Productivity?
1k what? CAD? Pounds? Peso?
Venezuelan money?
remote fiber
I'm looking for a fun system basically just to clock the snot out of maybe an apu or a replacement for aging ryzen system
Just looking for board, cpu and ram got plenty of the rest
twin sedge
~~Venezuelan money?~~
So 397369921 bolivares?
mighty crow
Just gaming?
Mostly for gaming and USD currency
mighty crow
Not using Ethernet
mighty crow
I can
ruby umbra
not to be an ass but they asked for a prebuilt
mighty crow
Any prebuilfs tho my brother said he wouldn’t help me build it 😭
twin sedge
Oh my bad
mighty crow
It’s all good
cyan ravine
That's a good list, also G360A iirc is the same price or cheaper and an updated p360a
Maybe even $10 cheaper
mighty crow
I just want a good gaming pc with 1tb storage
Last pc I had had like 500gb storage and I couldn’t add any more
cyan ravine
You'll be able to add more
twin sedge
Well it depends on how many m.2 slots it has
mighty crow
Ye
twin sedge
If it only has 1 slot its gonna be tricky
mighty crow
I tried looking for abs lrebuilds but all of em are 2k
cyan ravine
Why are they all open box on newegg
This seems alright https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali640-master/p/N82E16883360305R
Ima double check if the board supports an extra m.2
twin sedge
They need a tb ssd
cyan ravine
It does support an extra ssd
mighty crow
I don’t need one as long as I can buy another and insert it
cyan ravine
It's a prime b660m-a, 2 m.2 slots
cyan ravine
Provided that's what comes in the box
twin sedge
in the future i would recommend upgrading your ram
cyan ravine
They are ambiguous with the specs on some of these
mighty crow
Oh god that’s the pc my school has
cyan ravine
Lowkey school is a gamer
mighty crow
My school has their little esports club and it’s sponsored by national guard
cyan ravine
If @fossil cedar is around you can tell me if this is a decent choice or not
Cos I never see them advertise which psu either. This one says 600W gold
twin sedge
Thats a little bogus tho for over 1k they keep the stock cooler
cyan ravine
Apart from that tho it seems fine a second M.2 you'd get a team group mp 33 or a silicon power a60
mighty crow
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala273/p/N82E16883360238 what about this one
twin sedge
Like fr they couldn’t spend just $30 more for a 214
twin sedge
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala273/p/N82E16883360238 what about this one
Actually that one might be even better
cyan ravine
Is that a single fan 3060
twin sedge
The 12400f is a bit better of a cpu
cyan ravine
Kekw
twin sedge
But its not gonna be much of a difference
mighty crow
Is AMD good
twin sedge
Yeah
twin sedge
Is that a single fan 3060
They’re actually not as bad as people think
mighty crow
I can get it to 999 if I use a code
twin sedge
3060 outputs relatively medium heat
mighty crow
Oh so you think it will probs overheat?
twin sedge
No
cyan ravine
Won't overheat
twin sedge
The fan might just run a little loud
cyan ravine
Just run hotter and louder than 2 or 3 fan cards
cyan ravine
It does say brand may vary so it's possibly a placeholder
mighty crow
I’m not that worried about noise unless it’s a used PS4 fan kind of noise
twin sedge
Oh not that bad
twin sedge
It does say *brand may vary* so it's possibly a placeholder
Just cross your fingers and hope you get a dual fan
twin sedge
But knowing abs thats a pipe dream
mighty crow
Okay should I buy the prebuilt thst I just posted
earnest olive
inb4 3060 strix
twin sedge
Check with one of the mods or techies first
mighty crow
Can I @ them or should I wait
twin sedge
You can ping
mighty crow
Im a regular now yay
mighty crow
Oh sorry
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala273/p/N82E16883360238 is this good for a starter gaming pc
earnest olive
i'd rather grab the $1050 one
cyan ravine
I should note that, prebuilt value isn't great rn
paper summit
why would they put a 5600g with a 3060
twin sedge
Because abs
cyan ravine
You can save about 200-300 on these building yourself @mighty crow
twin sedge
They cant build one
twin sedge
I mean its not hard to learn
I was able to get it down after a few youtube tutorials
If you have the time it could save you a ton of money to learn how to build it
earnest olive
pros:
significantly better cpu
significantly better case
cons:
$50 more
half the storage
100w lower psu
rationale: storage is easier to upgrade than cpu, psu doesn't matter with this tier of build
well
not that psu doesn't matter entirely
but both psus will be fine
cyan ravine
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DWnWKp
This would be a good 20% or so faster for the same price
With a better guarantee of parts quality
mighty crow
Honestly I’m mostly looking for storage and being able to run modern and upcoming games. Like buying new stick of storage and being able to fit in their or just 1tb of storage is fine.
earnest olive
well, you already got my thoughts
both are decent, but i would opt for the stronger cpu and less storage
twin sedge
I don’t really know the difference between the g360a and p360a
earnest olive
g360a has one more fan in the front and supports 360mm top mount radiator
that's about it
both are fantastic
earnest olive
cyan ravine
@mighty crow same performance for $200 less from scratch
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/msYyLs
earnest olive
6600 and 3060 aren't quite the same performance
earnest olive
3060 is roughly in the middle of 6600 and 6600xt
cyan ravine
It'd still be cheaper with an XT lol
mighty crow
@earnest olive with this one https://www.newegg.com/abs-ala273/p/N82E16883360238 I can make it $999 instead of the discount it already has should I still go with the one you sent
earnest olive
I'd be careful with HP
ram upgrades on those can be more of a pain than you'd expect
mossy venture
Iirc, they don't allow xmp right?
earnest olive
I've heard that some HP motherboard bios are hard locked down to only work with a certain HP approved ram that's not always easy to find or cheap
mossy venture
My friend had to use a 3200c22 kit because he couldn't set xmp on his 3200c16 kit
earnest olive
I think the non-omen branded ones don't allow xmp either yeah
mossy venture
Yeah it was a Pavillion
empty pollen
true, disregard my choice, pavillions can be tricky
empty pollen
those can surprise you with 2 dimm slots only 😛 and not xmp ready 😦
mossy venture
I mean, 3060 build for $750 is great
cyan ravine
Lol
mossy venture
$650*
cyan ravine
That's a whole 400 less
mossy venture
Even with the downsides of hp, that's worth if you're just plugging and playing essentially
cyan ravine
earnest olive
it can be a fine choice but you have to be careful and know what you're getting into
jagged ember
3060 pc for 649
whoa what
mossy venture
There's also that 6700xt build I posted in tech deals for 1k
empty pollen
but not on 256gb and 8 ddr4
cyan ravine
ruby umbra
Kinda wanna see that
There's probably pavilions or optiplexi with decent cpus
The a2000 is what
Performances wise a 3060?
Give or take
analog pulsar
@fossil cedar sorry for ping but I had to go to work when you responded but here's my list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mvjP78
The power supply will also be upgraded to a ATX 3.0 when they come out more
analog pulsar
<@122901618369757184> I am $1.26 off of the pc you told me to buy
Omg that's very sad
paper summit
Rip
mighty crow
I gotta wait till next paycheck
paper summit
💀
potent portal
Even the b stock is more expensive than it should be lol
paper summit
Yea
analog pulsar
Even the b stock is more expensive than it should be lol
analog pulsar
The 3050 realy isnt that great tho lol
Well its just temp
What's price of 1650 should be
potent portal
If you're looking for a temporary card get a gtx 1080 for around $200
analog pulsar
paper summit
Or even a 6600
potent portal
If you can get it for $200 sure
paper summit
Or if u dont like amd 1660 super there going for like 220
Or 2060 for the same price lol
paper summit
Than get a 2060
analog pulsar
Bc I wanna steam
potent portal
Or if u dont like amd 1660 super there going for like 220
Bruh there's $175 1080 on eBay rn that kicks every 16 card to the curb
paper summit
True
analog pulsar
Bruh there's $175 1080 on eBay rn that kicks every 16 card to the curb
Yea but I don't trust ebay
analog pulsar
Idk
potent portal
Exactly. Use PayPal to pay. It's the safest way.
analog pulsar
potent portal
If you're worried about scams post the link here and ask for opinions. I do a lot of bidding.
Once you know what to look for the scams are obvious
paper summit
270 for a 1080ti danm thats really good
potent portal
We need the links so we can look at the seller
analog pulsar
Hm
paper summit
I dont know how i feel about blower cards lol aren't they typically loud
potent portal
Yes very
analog pulsar
I dont know how i feel about blower cards lol aren't they typically loud
It's fine I had a blower before with 10000 rpm
cyan ravine
blower go brrr
paper summit
Oh my
I honestly might go with a 1080ti instead of the 6600xt now lol
What do u think @potent portal
