building-and-recc-chat

[obsidian wigeon]

1299 is good but the gigabyte is better deal

[analog pulsar]

Okay

I like gigabyte bc 1080p screen

@obsidian wigeon can you see if ram soldered or not

[obsidian wigeon]

gigabyte has 2 slots

[analog pulsar]

I see

[analog pulsar]

@obsidian wigeon there is a video on it

[obsidian wigeon]

the gigabyte?

[analog pulsar]

My discord just froze

Like I was saying

[obsidian wigeon]

ok

[analog pulsar]

Test

Crap omg

With asus laptop I was looking at it comes with ryzen 9 5890x or something

also 6800M has 12 vram and 3070 has 8 only

Ik it's just vram and 8 should be fine just thought I should throw it in

There's this weird it didn't show up for me before

This is 1080p version

1k

Hm

[obsidian wigeon]

i think aorus or the strix should be decent choices

can't go wrong with either

[analog pulsar]

@obsidian wigeon I like 6800m bc high battery life and I like the UI for the Asus laptop

And 6800M has higher power

Hmmmm

[twin sedge]

Whats the best possible build for 1.5k?

[fossil cedar]

Usd?

[mossy venture]

Smthn like this, if usd https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8wzwC6

Can switch mobo to b660a wifi if you need wifi

Though patos list will likely have a better psu choice, didn't know what to choose since gt and gf1 both went up in price

[fossil cedar]

I'd do this for 20$ more (can save 5$ by going 12600kf but imo the igpu is worth 5$ easily )
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27RXhk

[empty pollen]

yeah 5$ for an igpu is totally worth it

[mossy venture]

Isn't peerless assassin very similar to ak620?

Imo not really worth $30 extra

[frigid night]

I have the 12600k and I can say that the igpu has served me well

I can't see myself getting a cpu without igpu in the future with how much I have used/needed it

[empty pollen]

ak620 is almost on par to an nh-d15. i suppose you can use that as a better point for reference

[mossy venture]

Yeah, pa120 is also up there but is $35

[twin sedge]

Damn those are some amazing specs

Thx

I thought the 6900xt would be way more

[empty pollen]

then i suppose both of them will perform pretty well below the 200w range... anything higher should be trusted to aios

[mossy venture]

Talked to someone on reddit the other day who said the ak620 is better than any 360mm aio

And then linked a very biased YouTube video with an lf2 that used barely any thermal paste

[empty pollen]

hahaha, i mean i am an ak620 shill but even i know its limits

[obsidian wigeon]

what's the point of shilling something

i don't get it

[empty pollen]

maybe its comparable to some 240s but not a chance against 360s, even less vs the LF2

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[empty pollen]

i just want a prosiphon just for the sake of having one on my pc 😛 expensive and chonky as it is

too sad they are not that good... yet

[cyan ravine]

Think of it almost like being a hipster except it makes sense

[obsidian wigeon]

prebuilt with prosiphon cooler when

[empty pollen]

plave pc

[obsidian wigeon]

inb4 the pc comes in broken

[cyan ravine]

• splave rings *

Jinx

[obsidian wigeon]

oh ya

splave

[empty pollen]

fastest pc ever built... cooled on air

[cyan ravine]

Faster than lf2

• spreads mx-5 *

[empty pollen]

but splave pc have a custom made prosiphon

[cyan ravine]

He had a prototype

It was a proshiphon with a lga1700 coldplate

[empty pollen]

and made of copper

[cyan ravine]

Ya

[empty pollen]

thats why i dont buy one rn

not copper cold plate nor bracket... no no

[cyan ravine]

I want to see one of those on a z690 kp

So it's turned 90 degrees

Half stuck out of a case with a proper airflow pattern

[empty pollen]

imagine a kp build cooled with air

yikes

doable just for the memes ofc

[cyan ravine]

Vince pc

[empty pollen]

indeed

[fossil cedar]

Ehhh ak620 is better and yeah you could get away with it there is a version i think se that has issues and 30$ aint much when you're spending 1500

[fossil cedar]

Np

[empty pollen]

sad thing about ak620 is the price rn

[cyan ravine]

i was thinking that that was the assassin with issues too tbh

[empty pollen]

too expensive

[cyan ravine]

I remember hearing that, I think in here actually a long time ago

[fossil cedar]

I think of it as just being a huge fan

[cyan ravine]

It's an SE cooler that much I def remember

[empty pollen]

i will totally hit an ak620 when on sale tho, some 45 or 50usd is a no brainer

one day i saw it at 35 on one of those newegg live streams for just 1 hour

instant oos

[obsidian wigeon]

i see what you did there

[cyan ravine]

Get one then get a rockit copper ihs Ravell and delid

Get the best air cooled you ever air cooler

[fossil cedar]

Oh i didn't even mean to make a pun lol

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[empty pollen]

beautiful.... the ilm tho crash the picture

need a copper ihs+thermaright frame

[cyan ravine]

TR contact frame

[empty pollen]

[obsidian wigeon]

shiny copper

[cyan ravine]

Then do a 900iq

Put it in a biostar

[empty pollen]

put a 212evo on top of that and collect the tears from reddit

[obsidian wigeon]

biohazard*

[empty pollen]

or the laminar for all i care :V

[cyan ravine]

Stack 212s on top of each other

[obsidian wigeon]

212 stack

[fossil cedar]

Walmart contact frame
Tr contact frame

X)

[cyan ravine]

You can't heat soak if you keep heat transferrin

[obsidian wigeon]

what the heck is walmart contact frame

diy?

[cyan ravine]

Exactly what it sounds like

[empty pollen]

yup

[cyan ravine]

Wallmarts version

[obsidian wigeon]

knew it

[cyan ravine]

$9

Lmao

[empty pollen]

a caveman team machined those

[cyan ravine]

And it unironically works

[obsidian wigeon]

do tou just buy like

[fossil cedar]

@obsidian wigeon https://youtu.be/EByOdL_nYKo

[obsidian wigeon]

alu sheets or something

ah

[empty pollen]

rough edges everywhere...but it works

[obsidian wigeon]

cheukchi

what a brand

[cyan ravine]

Because intel wasn't unga bunga enough to realise just stretching their ILM shape wasn't good enough

[obsidian wigeon]

yep

ihs bend go brr

[cyan ravine]

Now we have wallmart unga bunga

[empty pollen]

need one for my rpl build

but i will settle on thermalright

[obsidian wigeon]

the cpu just wants to escape from being cooled

it doesn't wanna be tortured

[cyan ravine]

TR honestly worth it

I gained 20W over standard ILM

You saw my pic lol

[empty pollen]

with the lf2 right?

sorry the eisbaur

[cyan ravine]

With the meme

All that paste cos of two indents from the ILM

The cooler lifted off like it was never stuck to it

Hence such a representation by the paste lol

[fossil cedar]

Settle?? IT COMES IN BLUE

Can you see the colour..... No

But

Blue

[cyan ravine]

When I took the cooler off yesterday with the contact frame I had suction so it was def making better contact

[fossil cedar]

I hope the do 2 ilm arms on next gen mobos

[cyan ravine]

Still gonna swap it if they do

Might lap the 13900K even

[fossil cedar]

Course people who wanna oc af will but just for the regular user

[cyan ravine]

I wanna see more than 2 divots on the ILM

[fossil cedar]

4 arms it is

[frigid night]

"..and nothing else that really catches our eye at all" as he's holding up the TG frame xD

[fossil cedar]

I'm confused

[frigid night]

start the video from 4:17 and watch until he says it lol

he's reviewing the look of the contact frames

[fossil cedar]

Ohh

[fossil cedar]

Lmaooo

[little osprey]

DONT SCARE ME LIKE THIS PLEASE. I just built a pc and don't even wanna think of the thermal paste melting onto anything 😭

[obsidian wigeon]

paste doesn't melt anything

[little osprey]

It also has intel, but I tried to make sure the fan was ON before installing that hardware

[jagged ember]

unless it's garbage paste

maybe it'll cook

[obsidian wigeon]

paste even if it seeps out, it's nothing serious at all

[little osprey]

It was the paste that came on the fan, but it didn't seem garbage

[jagged ember]

yeah that's not garbage paste lol

it's fine

[little osprey]

Oh? Good to know.

[obsidian wigeon]

that's only a 12th gen meme

of contact patch being crap

[little osprey]

Starting off Friday with a false sense if dread xD

[jagged ember]

I was thinking more like peanut butter as thermal paste

[little osprey]

Yumby thermal paste

[jagged ember]

yeah thermal paste generally isn't conductive

and to stop the sticking just heat up the cpu for a bit and twist the cooler while removing

[little osprey]

Smart! I'll have to remember that if I ever install this RGB fan

[jagged ember]

oh no

fan replacement don't need to remove cooler

just slap on the new fan

[little osprey]

Oh?

Oh that's so cool!

[jagged ember]

I assume you're not getting a new cooler

and you're currently using a not stock cooler

[little osprey]

Nah, it'll be a while before trying out liquid cooling

[jagged ember]

if both conditions are true then no need to remove the cooler you're using

[little osprey]

Noted. It'd be fun to install for even better air flow and aesthetic at some point!

I remember seeing two great spots to install new fans to lower the air temp, and having the face of the fan pulling the hot air out

[jagged ember]

two front one top one rear usually

but it depends per case

[little osprey]

I have 3 front because of the case I have. Do you HAVE to follow a pattern for the fans so it doesn't break the airflow, or does it not matter?

Like if I install the RGB at the back before any at the top, will that matter?

[empty pollen]

best airflow pattern is 3 front as intake and 1 back and 2 top for exhausts

that will maintain a good airflow with very little dust buildup

but 3 front and 1 back is enough on most cases for a proper airflow

[jagged ember]

eh

two top might suck away air from the cpu cooler

as would be the case with my P12s

too many fans is not always a good thing

[empty pollen]

the cpu cooler will receive fresh air from the front fans regardless

while the top fans help sucking the hot air from the cooler

but you can go very well without the two at the top, because you know, hot air always go up even without them

[rich void]

The main thing is you don't usually want to have an exhaust fan mounted up top in front of an air cooler. Having a fan mounted in that rear-top spot is certainly good, the other mount can be case by case

[jagged ember]

heh

case by case

[obsidian wigeon]

having top fan isn't always a good thing anyway

you can sometimes leave the cpu cooler, if it's an air cooler without adequate airflow

[rich void]

I don't think that's likely if what it's pulling out is hot air

[analog pulsar]

@obsidian wigeon sad the 6800M pc is gone

[dim forge]

I think I'm going for the 1650super until I can get an upgrade, can't find any cheap 6600 without shipping taxes 😦

[mossy venture]

is the 1650s cheaper than the 6500xt?

[dim forge]

same price

but someone said here that 6500xt was trast due to no hardware encoding

[mossy venture]

ye

that's fine then

[dim forge]

1650s is enough to play 1080p on low-mid set right?

[mossy venture]

yeah it'll do fine

[potent portal]

That's not the reason it's trash. It's limited to a x4 PCIe connection so if you use it in a system that only supports PCIe 3.0 you lose performance. It has to be run at 4.0 to get full use.

[mossy venture]

it's in a pcie 4.0 system

i would definitely try for a 1060 6gb or 1660 if possible

but if not 1650s is fine

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[stray stone]

trying to think of next build after card generation release.

any recommendations?

[obsidian wigeon]

we can't answer you ahead of the time

so please wait

[stray stone]

ha

but board, chip, mem?

[obsidian wigeon]

the performance of those next gen cards aren't even tested yet

and next gen cpus are launching soon too

so that will have to wait too

[stray stone]

for old 30 gen

crap

[obsidian wigeon]

everything are being announced at around this month

[stray stone]

looking for good tail end

[obsidian wigeon]

release is a next month or two

then you have to wait, unfortunately

[stray stone]

12 hundred 7th chip w/30 70 +

np

just tagging

iow, 30+ vid

12 Gen 7 cpu (9 is overboard for me)

if that is all mistworld...

anyway. just trying to get a foothold

[fleet heron]

@potent portal look at my build 0_0

[strong raft]

Uhm isn't a word. gpu cables are very uneven, otherwise not too shabby. Reminds me of "blacklights" at a party w/ a bunch of white shirts or something.

[potent portal]

Reminds me of an ice cave

I like it

[fleet heron]

we dont talk about those lmaoo

the cables are so hard to bend

[cyan ravine]

Never in my life have I felt my undiscovered OCD feel so unsheathed at the sight of those GPU cables

It's like, uneven in a way that's almost offensive

[empty pollen]

feel ya bro, there is something unnerving on those pcie cables

like calling for a sledgehammer

[cyan ravine]

It's just one cable to pull then I'd love it

Until then it's a war on my soul

[empty pollen]

have to admit, to upset the rest of the world i would gladly leave those as that

[cyan ravine]

Ikr

[fleet heron]

You want to see the back?

I'll send it later

I didn't organize anything.

And I mean it lmao

The back over thingy is bending

[storm viper]

Hello
I just finished building my PC. But have a couple off issues. Hope someone here could help.

So, I have a Corsair 150i Elite LCD CPU cooler. I connected the LCD's 20 and 6 other fans to the commander Core (3 ML and 3 LL).

When I switch on the PC I see an exclamation mark on the cooler LCD and the 6 fans don't have RGB but they do spin.

I have 6 other fans connected to the PWM and RGB controllers that came with my 5000X case. The RGB on those 6 fans work. Is there something I'm missing.

Also, on the Asus (MB) splash screen it says that there is an error with the CPU fan not detected.

I'm kinda stuck and don't know what to do now. Could someone please help me out? on this

[olive cypress]

Are you sure the commander core is being powered? Is it connected properly
If there's no RGB and no screen that could mean it's not receiving power

[obsidian wigeon]

sounds exactly like an unplugged controller

[olive cypress]

Maybe the usb header which should provide the data for RGB and LCD images

[storm viper]

I checked and powered it through another cable and the same issue. But would the fans spin if power was the issue? Both RGB and PWM are connected to the commander

[empty pollen]

what fabio said, maybe your problem is in the usb 2.0 connector, thats where your commander get the data for the rgb and pwm control

if the fans are spinning then the sata connector is fine, check the other cable

[fleet pagoda]

anyone know why i can hear myself thru my own mic

me headset i mean

listen to device is off

drivers are up to date

[fleet pagoda]

Fixed it

[cyan plaza]

Any ideas to clean this up 😅

[jolly jungle]

zip ties

[mossy venture]

Some clorox might work

[cyan plaza]

This is my 4th attempt

[cyan ravine]

is it me or is that psu not screwed in

nvm it me

[jagged ember]

loop extra cable length back into itself

[drowsy zodiac]

no need to clean it up, it adds personality 😂

[cyan plaza]

O tried that but couldn't put the side cover back on

[cyan plaza]

Close enough

[cyan ravine]

I have no idea what I'm looking at

[cyan plaza]

Missing 2 screws

[cyan ravine]

oh

I do a cross pattern when I do that

you don't really need all 4 screws so covering the diagonals will keep it flat and flush

[forest briar]

Not super pretty but there’s mine

[untold beacon]

That’s mine it’s pretty clean but I got to redo some of the cables

[ruby ledge]

should i get the rtx 2060 or amd rx6600

[mossy venture]

6600 is better

[ruby ledge]

Does the 6600 have drivers problems?

[mossy venture]

Not as bad as amd used to have. I didn't have driver issues with my 6800xt

Though there were some minor issues my 3060 ti don't have

[strong raft]

The worst drivers are when a gpu or game is* brand new. After a few months the drivers are fine imo.

[cyan ravine]

The 6600 I bought plays fine

[analog pulsar]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-16-wqxga-165hz-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i9-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-ti-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-off-black/6494637.p?skuId=6494637&loc=pdpShare&ref=app_android

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lenovo-Legion-5-Pro-16-Laptop-Intel-Core-i7-12700H-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3070Ti-16GB-RAM-512GB-SSD-Windows-11-Home-Storm-Gray-82RF000TUS/942208519?athbdg=L1100
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-zephyrus-15-6-wqhd-165hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-512gb-pcie-4-0-ssd-eclipse-gray/6494630.p?skuId=6494630
https://www.microcenter.com/product/649391/lenovo-legion-5-15arh7h-156-gaming-laptop-computer-platinum-collection-grey

[dim forge]

do you recommend a secondhand 1070 or a 1660s?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

if the price is right

around 200 tops

[dim forge]

the 1660s is better, right?

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

it's the same

i would get the newer one if possible, but 1070 is fine. it has 8 gigs of vram too

[dim forge]

that's their price

200-220

[obsidian wigeon]

that's a good range

[dim forge]

I'd buy a new one if ship taxes weren't like 100usd

[obsidian wigeon]

i meant 1660s sounds like better choice cause it's newer

longer driver support

[potent portal]

"New" listings should be avoided, if they haven't sold before during the shortage it's pretty fishy

[obsidian wigeon]

but 1070 is also fine too

[potent portal]

Usually scalpers trying to make back their money but other times they're scams

[dim forge]

I'll make sure to test the gpu

[obsidian wigeon]

meeting in person is the best way to it

[dim forge]

yeah

Otherwise it's very hard to make sure it's not a scam

[dim forge]

guys

rn I have a laptop with native 720p reso

I'll buy a 1080p monitor

If I connect it to the pc

the fps in games will drop once I rise the resolution, right?

[obsidian wigeon]

yes

[potent portal]

If you have a dedicated GPU and no MUX switch the drop in frame rate won't be as bad. That's a common scenario.

[dim forge]

that's the thing, I don't have a dedicated gpu

[potent portal]

Integrated graphics off the CPU then? Yeah you won't be doing much gaming on that in 1080p

[dim forge]

but I can use 1080p in media content, right?

[potent portal]

Yes that's fine

If it's relatively modern it could probably display 4k with little issue

[dim forge]

it's this one, don't think it can display 4k

https://www.amazon.com/-/es/gp/product/B08FJHMTZJ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

[potent portal]

I meant the laptop could possibly do 4k if you connected a 4k display

[dim forge]

ohhhhh

I thought you meant the monitor

[potent portal]

If it's 4-5 years old or less it'll probably do 4k with limitations based on HDMI port version

[dim forge]

my laptop is kinda old tho, I had it as a gift like 3-4 yo ago

hdmi is 1.4 i think

[potent portal]

That's enough for 4k 30hz, 60hz if it does DSC

So it should be just fine setting that monitor to 1080p 144hz

[dim forge]

okee thanks for the advice

I'll buy the monitor tomorrow

do you have any idea if amazon electronics come with eeuu outlet?

[potent portal]

It depends on the seller

That one looks like it's sold directly by Amazon so it should usually come with the outlet plug that matches the region it's sold from

And if not complain and they'll send you one

[dim forge]

oh nvm

type A and B are used in both the US and my country

[analog pulsar]

How much it cost to fix laptop speakers

[olive cypress]

Does anyone know where I can find a PS4 pro chassis (completely empty)?

Possibly cheap, even if it's used or slightly damaged

And I'm asking here because I was thinking of putting an entire itx build inside it

[potent portal]

It depends on the laptop

[little osprey]

can someone here that's experienced in building computers help me
dm me

[still roost]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[little osprey]

Hi, I want to get a new power supply 450-550 watts is what i think is enough for me for my 1650 super but I don't know much about computers. I choose this motherboard (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FVYKFXF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A24GENDIDV9018&psc=1) if you have any ideas for a better one for cheaper let me know
I have a prebuilt that I'm wanting to upgrade (https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Computer-Processor-TG01-0030/dp/B07XV7YRSL) and i watch a video of a

dude changing to a new case (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=149_XfpBLQA) and from there i found everything i need except the power supply, i need something cheat. The one i was looking at is https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0160XJAQK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 i wanna know if its good or naw?? I also picked this case because its cheap https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PTB45YQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A25D34XLVTWT9M&th=1 ikik it has bad airflow but its the one recommended in the vid and I don't know how to figure out what size case I need so I just went with the one on the video i watched

[analog hearth]

bruh

[little osprey]

what

[analog hearth]

nothing lmfao

[little osprey]

ikik i sound dumb i dont know anything about computers

[analog hearth]

bro wrote a whole story

[formal girder]

Well does help prevent spam messages tho

[weary dawn]

I have 8gb ddr3 ram B)

[mossy venture]

I'd get asus tuf 550 right now

450 would be fine, but 550 is only $5 more

[little osprey]

can you also help me figure out if all my stuff is compatible

how do ik if the power supply is compatible with the case i choose

[obsidian wigeon]

the mobo is proprietary

case swap won't even work

oh wait nvm

[little osprey]

the case swap will work if i get a new mob

i watched a vid with them doing it

[obsidian wigeon]

very bad price for that mobo tho

you can get much cheaper boards

[little osprey]

well its the mob that they recomended and i dont know how to pick a good mob that will go with what i am getting

@obsidian wigeon can you link me to a mob that will work for the build i am doing

[obsidian wigeon]

lemme just

make a quick list

cooler won't work with the new mobo but i can add it too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r7rFY9

you can ignore ram if you want, but imo it's better to have it

[fossil cedar]

@austere condor did you find the arc gpu from retail or did you have to buy 2nd hand?

[austere condor]

scalped on ebay =/

[kindred pawn]

My friend who's not techy wants to know if this build is good, he's gonna be streaming mainly minecraft but might venture out to other games once he realizes the power of his pc, he'll also do video editing https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/squirrelpowered/saved/#view=2J3npg

[obsidian wigeon]

nah

overpriced stuff

lemme make one that's better

[vivid copper]

canadian prices kinda suck right now but what is their budget?

[kindred pawn]

1.5k

[vivid copper]

do they not need a mobo, didn't have one in the build

[austere condor]

missing some vital parts to be able to function there my guy

[obsidian wigeon]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bV7xVw

boom

3060ti is cheaper and better for streaming

[austere condor]

naw naw naw

hold on

[austere condor]

wifi required?

if so, this would be my recommendation

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BLs2zf

intel QSV > Nvidia NVENC for stream encoding, so getting a CPU with an iGPU is worth the extra cost. went with the 12500 cause UHD 770 on the 12500 vs UHD 730 on a 12400 is a reasonably difference in performance.

[kindred pawn]

I knew something had to be missing

[kindred pawn]

No

[vivid copper]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y68VLs A lil bit over but better psu, adequate cooler and a better drive...could do a regular 6700xt or 6700 non xt to get right under budget

[austere condor]

then you have the option to save like $30 on a motherboard

getting one without wifi build in

like the one @obsidian wigeon recommended in his build

wow i pasted the wrong link

LOL

here

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/BLs2zf

fixed link

[obsidian wigeon]

that's also very good

case is a pain to build in tho, or so i've heard

tho 12500 will struggle running 3600

it was why i chose 3200

[austere condor]

there we go, revised

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/JVWpVw

without the wifi enabled board

@kindred pawn thats what you should be expecting to build for $1500 CAD, case is subjective

can pick what you want

^ build i did in that exact same case

[obsidian wigeon]

that does look pretty cool

[austere condor]

@kindred pawn https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW/cougar-mx330-g-air-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g-air

another good option would be the MX330-G air

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/crqBD3/phanteks-eclipse-p300a-mesh-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec300atg_bk01
P300a is also a favorite of mine

needs intake fans though

the NZXT H710 is actually suprisingly cheap for CAD. decent enough airflow performance cause of the decent and lots of stock fans
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/T2RgXL/nzxt-h710-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h710b-b1

H510 flow isnt a bad choice either for this tier of hardware
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dkRYcf/nzxt-h510-flow-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h52fw-01

[kindred pawn]

Thanks guys

[empty pollen]

today was a good day 😄 scored 150usd more for my raptor lake build 😄 built 3 pcs for a friend's friend

[south cliff]

for some reason my mouse disconnect and reconnects and its very annoying and same with my headset

[empty pollen]

razer?

[south cliff]

no

[empty pollen]

happens to me on my razer devices, but thats on my devices or the horrendous synapse

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[south cliff]

my headset is steel series

and my mouse is like a hk gaming mouse or smt like that

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QzcXhk
can someone tell me if this is ok I'm swapping the GPU from a prebuilt aka
https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Computer-Processor-TG01-0030/dp/B07XV7YRSL
I has been 2 days of me figuring out what i need to do it I've watched every case swap video's for the pc I have and I hope what I have will work

[mossy venture]

youre gonna want more ram and storage

[little osprey]

i have 16gb of ram

8 already in it and another 8 on the way i ordered

[mossy venture]

ah ok

wait you bought a 3600 as an upgrade to a 3500?

[little osprey]

it came with a ryzen 5 3600

[mossy venture]

looks good then

[little osprey]

hehehe took me 2 days to get it all planned

im new to learning about pc's

im taking my prebuilt and making it into something i can upgrade the gpu in the future

[fossil cedar]

Sadge :(

[dim forge]

is a 550w psu enough for a 12400F and a 1660s?

and, if so, which gpu can I use without overloading?

[leaden mauve]

@austere condor x99 would have been a great option for that server/Nas build :)

[cyan ravine]

Would get an RX6600 with a 550W and 12400f, but also which psu?

Specific model and brand

[mossy venture]

Rn I'd get a 12100f and 6650xt at $300 over 12400f and 6600

[dim forge]

cx-f corsair

it's like 60usd on amazon

[mossy venture]

What's your budget for the whole build

And do you care about looks

[mossy venture]

^

@viral ore wsp?

I'd rather a 12100f and 6650xt to 12400f and 6600

For gaming anyways

[dim forge]

not really

[mossy venture]

Then budget?

[dim forge]

I can't get a 6600 nor a 6650xt

[viral ore]

those extra cores put in work fairly often

[dim forge]

I don't live in the US and shipping a 6600 is expensive

[viral ore]

especially considering the price difference

[dim forge]

it's like 320-330 usd with taxes

[mossy venture]

Before 12th gen, we consistently recommended 10400f and 3060 ti and the 12100f beats it by a good bit in gaming

[mossy venture]

Ohhh you're the dude from the other day

[dim forge]

ye

[viral ore]

i mean it depends on just how tight the budget is

[dim forge]

I tried looking for a secondhand 6600 but it's still expensive

[mossy venture]

Their budget is very tight

[viral ore]

gimme a number

[mossy venture]

So much so that I actually recommended a 6500xt for the first time

$600 iirc?

[dim forge]

If I didn't need a monitor I'd get a 6600

[dim forge]

yes

[mossy venture]

I'd get asus tuf 550 for you

$49

[dim forge]

Can't find it on amazon for that price

[mossy venture]

One sec

[viral ore]

600 is a pretty icky price range

[mossy venture]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MV9694K?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[dim forge]

says 80 usd

87*

[mossy venture]

Must be location based, might need a vpn

[dim forge]

does it affect international shipping?

[mossy venture]

Or just get cxf for the $12 extra, cxf is still good

Not a clue

[dim forge]

I know 😦

especially cuz 1700 boards are heck expensive rn

they sell for 150 usd min at my country

so only option is amazon

[mossy venture]

Not in the US, if you need wifi built in ds3h ax is $120

[viral ore]

used market might be your best bet

[mossy venture]

If you dont, b660 pro rs is $90

[mossy venture]

Shipping might be more though

[dim forge]

I found some 1660super selling for less than 200usd

[viral ore]

local, obv

[mossy venture]

I doubt the local used market will be good

[viral ore]

you never know until you look

[mossy venture]

Fair enough

[viral ore]

plus, just filter ebay based on location

[mossy venture]

Alr I'm out again

I really need to sleep

[viral ore]

a last-gen card could probably be had for a reasonable price

[mossy venture]

I've slept 2 hours in the last 31

[viral ore]

go sleep

lol

[mossy venture]

10400/3600 might also be options locally

Or similar

Ok gn

[viral ore]

i would try looking for something like a gtx 980/ti, 1080, rx 5600xt,

those older cards will render any game 1080p60

the 12100f stands as a decent option, but older cpus are everywhere.

plus, it would be a HUGE inconvenience to recieve a DOA part

should it be something shipped from outside of your country

i would for sure start by checking out what people are selling used locally

[dim forge]

I can find some things locally, but honestyl everything is expensive

a nvme sdd is like 120usd for 512gb

[mossy venture]

What country again?

[dim forge]

and a 8x2 gb ram kit cost like 100usd too lol

Colombia

[mossy venture]

Mm

[dim forge]

I saw a good psu selling cheap

like 70usd

it's a gex cougar 650w

[mossy venture]

I'm not sure that's good, check the tier list pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

I could be remembering wrong

[viral ore]

these are all used components?

[dim forge]

yeah cultist says it's b tier

[dim forge]

none actually

[mossy venture]

Oh cool

Yeah good option then, assuming you don't have to pay shipping

[viral ore]

thats the problem

[dim forge]

new parts here sell like double the price they sell on amazon/newegg

for e.g, a 1650 (not super) sells for 250usd new here

even old cards

like 1050ti

that's why I considered amazon tho, except for the gpu which I might be getting a second hand one

[viral ore]

poke around craigslist and fb marketplace

[little osprey]

Hello, I'm new to the computer building and i have this Prebuilt pc (link 1). And I'm planning on adding a new case, I've been looking thru many discords and other sources gathering what I think will work and what others will also. If someone that knows lots about about pc's could check out my build and tell me what you think... btw I bought everything already. I wanna know what would be a better graphics card for the future would be. My prebuilt comes with a 1650 super and a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor. I have a list of the things I bought to build it (link 2) if you have any recommendations please DM me or reply to my message. I'm on a budget not a set budged so send some good prices parts for me to check out. Thank you for reading this for if you have and taking in the consideration of helping a newbie out <3.....

Link 1 - https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Computer-Processor-TG01-0030/dp/B07XV7YRSL
Link 2 - https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7v3P78
The GPU is just a random GPU to fill the spot idk the difference so don't ask me. Also the ram is one I bought I'm still keeping the ram that came with the pc but adding a new stick for a total of 16gb

[dim forge]

Im buying this, wish me luck it doesn't come DOA

[little osprey]

thats a good monitor 😉

[stoic island]

I mean, if that's the ram you actually got, I'd just buy a whole new 2x8 or 2x16 3200c16 kit

and a bigger drive

[little osprey]

I was told that sometimes that the ram from hp sometimes doesn't work on different motherboards

[oak jay]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MWzxRv is this a bad build

ive gone over it with some people but i want to make sure its still solid

[grim wraith]

The case is dookie but otherwise solid

[south cliff]

its a mid case but it does look nice with the right fans etc

especially rgb fans

rgb = better performance

[grim wraith]

It’s less than a mid case lol and trust me I’m no stranger to rgb fans

[mossy venture]

psu is super overpriced, and I'd get g360a over h510 flow if it were me, but aside from that it's fine

there's also a teamgroup 3600c18 rgb kit that imo looks better and is slightly cheaper, but either is fine

[south cliff]

they give more perfromance

[grim wraith]

I know I have lian li infinity fans

[paper summit]

Plus 50 fps

[south cliff]

w

[fleet heron]

@analog hearth did you mod your keyboard!? I don't remember it sounding like that

[obsidian wigeon]

it is a build

[fleet heron]

Wait v4?

[obsidian wigeon]

so ya

not stock

[fleet heron]

Oh

A

[analog hearth]

it’s the barebones kit they have. it has Tecsee Purple switches with some PBT key caps from Amazon

the two bottom rows are lubed. I didn’t get to lube the top three rows

[fleet heron]

Ah I see!

Lubing gets boring lol

[south cliff]

doesent it take a long time

[analog hearth]

I’m also ghetto lubing lol

[obsidian wigeon]

it's like 10 sec per switch

[fleet heron]

Oo nice

[analog hearth]

not if you ghetto lube

[obsidian wigeon]

so it adds up

[fleet heron]

20 if your new at it smh

[analog hearth]

it still sounds great if you lube it the way I did

[fleet heron]

I'm using a membrane razer keyboard

[analog hearth]

the upgrade is mega worth

just don’t go with a big brand like Corsair or Steel Series, or you’ll feel like you wasted your money

[obsidian wigeon]

lol

[fleet heron]

I was gonna go Corsair

[obsidian wigeon]

meanwhile i went the cheap end

[fleet heron]

Most of my pc is Corsair

[obsidian wigeon]

corsair keeb is nono

they're basically scams

[fleet heron]

Fr??

Daym

[south cliff]

i got a steel series

kb

[analog hearth]

Corsair keyboards are just ugly and expensive keeps. lower quality than Royal Kludge imo

[obsidian wigeon]

^

and they still cost more than keychron

[south cliff]

but a freind gave it to me

so w

[fleet heron]

Should I get the 1 you have? And Change the keys to what I prefer?

It doesn't seem 2 expensive

[obsidian wigeon]

There's a lot of models to choose

[fleet heron]

Tha

[analog hearth]

a good beginner keyboard is anything Royal Kludge or Keychron

[analog hearth]

ye that’s it

[obsidian wigeon]

i would suggest getting prebuilt first imo

can always change later

[analog hearth]

only mine is the Carbon Black version

I’ve only gone prebuilt so far

[obsidian wigeon]

being new means you don't know about switches yet

even i barely know anything

all i know rn is i love me some tactile switches

linears aren't my jazz

[fleet heron]

I think I'm gonna get creams

[analog hearth]

I just put some linears on my RK61 lol

[fleet heron]

No creams

There linear switches

[obsidian wigeon]

i use my keeb for gaming more than typing

typing isn't as important

[fleet heron]

Linear is good for gaming isn't it?

[analog hearth]

yes

[obsidian wigeon]

it is, but i hate how it feels

[fleet heron]

A

[stoic island]

both are good

[obsidian wigeon]

i want the bump

[stoic island]

all preference

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[fleet heron]

Fair enough my friend also don't like em

[analog hearth]

I need some tactile bump

[obsidian wigeon]

i like feeling the actuation point

[stoic island]

I argue tactile is better for gaming since you know if you're about to accidentally press the key or not

[obsidian wigeon]

no, need actually

ye

[fleet heron]

Hmm

[stoic island]

instead of having to worry if resting your hands on your keeb will actuate the switch

[obsidian wigeon]

i find my outemu brown a tad too light

but it means im speedy with osu

i don't quite like oem keycap profile tho

it gets in the way of my typing

too tall

[stoic island]

rip

[analog hearth]

bruh it’s just so clean

😩

[fleet heron]

STOP IM JEALOUS

[stoic island]

I'm just chillin, all white is too boring

[analog hearth]

I was thinking of getting that one set of caps with the spacebar that says “THIS IS PLASTIC” on it

but I think i’ll stick with this set

[stoic island]

lmao what

[fleet heron]

My pc is all whitr

[mossy venture]

My pc is neon yellow

With strobe lights

[analog hearth]

https://a.co/d/4EGaYCx

[stoic island]

interesting...

[analog hearth]

my gf would love this keyboard

[stoic island]

its fun

pbt is nice

[analog hearth]

PBT is just better

I dropped an ABS cap and a PBT cap on my desk. ABS has a lot more treble and doesn’t sound as deep

[stoic island]

gmk tho

gmk is nice because the abs is so thick

usually its just too thin

[strong raft]

Sounds like hulk's problem. My membrane keys are pretty soft and I don't have that problem.

[stoic island]

membrane keys tend to have a certain point before they actuate, pretty similar to the bump on tactile switches, there's a bump in the force curve

there are none on linear switches

[strong raft]

Just push the key, or don't. I guess some people hold the keys partway down or something. Main thing I hate about most mech setups is the noise.

[stoic island]

???

[stoic island]

just get some nice quiet switches then

also, it's not like holding your key partway down, it's resting you hand on it and having to worry about if you're depressing the key enough to actuate or not

many switches can be lighter than you think

[strong raft]

guess so. perhaps I wouldn't want linear that soft*. Oh right, there are those rubber orings to look into. Not quite ready to retire the ol Tarantula.

[little osprey]

is 3200mhz fine

[empty pollen]

depends on the use

for gaming? yes its fine

[mossy venture]

in most cases yes

[dusk ginkgo]

@limber oyster bro that tubing 😭

[limber oyster]

IK 😭😭😭😭

I did what I could

They're AIOs so there's only so much

[dusk ginkgo]

God there has to be something cause that tube, it ain't it bro 😭😭

[limber oyster]

I MIGHT be able to interconnect them, maybe cut the tubs down and re...tube them.

But idk

That's an expensive maybe

I might just take out the rear fan and flip the top radiator around

[dusk ginkgo]

How many rads do you have and what kind?

2

?

[limber oyster]

2 rads, 360mm each

They're AIOs from Alphacool

The CPU is an Eisbaer and the GPU is a Eiswolf 2

[dusk ginkgo]

Damn those are large for all that

[limber oyster]

It's a Ryzen 7 3700x and a Asus ROG strix OC gaming 3080 10GB RTX

[dusk ginkgo]

I mean you could run the gpu on the top rad also but that's more cutting

[limber oyster]

My issue would be the tubes rubbing against the rear fan

I might just remove it and move GPU to top and CPU to front

Idk....

I'm kinda content...mainly cause I'm starving

[dusk ginkgo]

Mmmm

[limber oyster]

I installed the CPU cooler this morning immediately as soon as I came home from work

[dusk ginkgo]

I see

why did you install it in a opposite direction then it is usually

[limber oyster]

Night shift sucks

You mean fans at the bottom?

[dusk ginkgo]

The tubing routes usually to the left and you did right

[limber oyster]

Ahh I went right because I didn't want to risk tubes rubbing against the rear fan

[dusk ginkgo]

You could have cut them to size?

[limber oyster]

Maybe

I just never cut lines before

These came pre-assembled

[dusk ginkgo]

Actually you could have done it like hmm let me get up my advanced diagram program with definitely is not my phones paint

[limber oyster]

Lol

Keep in mind I used to be a mechanic and so I'm used to having a set way of doing things with a diagram showing the proper way. Doing things free-hand is new to me

[dim forge]

GUYSS

quick question

which monitor is better

[limber oyster]

Mine

[dim forge]

price diff is 10 usd

but gigabyte has higher refresh and it's ips

[limber oyster]

Honestly, go Samsung G5 Odessy

That's what I'm using

1440p, 144hz

ISP

[dusk ginkgo]

I know this is sloppy and without connections but this is what I thought, it could clean up the space too

[limber oyster]

$240 USD

[limber oyster]

Maybe, idk 100% though

[dim forge]

these ones are 120/130 respectively

[limber oyster]

I'd definitely remove the rear fan of I did that

[dusk ginkgo]

I'm pretty sure it would hurt performance much, also it would clean up a lot

[limber oyster]

I'm also personally not a fan of the modern gigabyte build quality. A lot of people here would probably say the Gigabyte.

[limber oyster]

I'd also have two pumps working

What if they have conflicting speeds?

[dusk ginkgo]

Depends, you might have clearance maybe

[dusk ginkgo]

Maybe watch videos that are similar and if the speeds are different then don't change much

Other that let me get out my magical not paint from my phone tool once more

[limber oyster]

Hmm...maybe there's a 1-2 splitter from Alphacool to where I could hook up both pump powers together and sync them....no....that's hurt cooling for GPU

[dusk ginkgo]

This is another option of you don't wanna split, it just cleans it up a bit. Personally I think you might have clearance for the fan

It's ironic that I'm giving you ideas of how to clean up stuff and I can't even cable manage the back of my pc

[limber oyster]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna do

Also, rear of case, let me show real quick

[olive cypress]

No
For the GPU is bad
Because the rad is lower

[dusk ginkgo]

fair enough

[limber oyster]

If I remove the rear fan, flip the CPU rad so the tubes are to the left, I then can rotate the GPU rad 180° so tubes are at the top

My rear

[dusk ginkgo]

Oh god any tips?

[limber oyster]

Mines worse

[dusk ginkgo]

I gave no care for my ssd

I think I'm gonna just unplug everything and start over

Cause I need to be able to fit more cables when I get those strimmer v2 cables

[limber oyster]

I also want to move my front fans to inside the Rad

[limber oyster]

Also, forgot to mention I do plan to get a Ryzen 9, 3rd or 5th gen once the 7000 series drops

[dusk ginkgo]

Welp I just unplugged all my wires to look at my hands and see them black and bleeding 💀

[empty pollen]

👀

[dusk ginkgo]

For some reason whenever I touch the rubber wire hole things hands get a black residue on it

When I get back I'll do it again and show

I'll whipe my hand on it and show it when I get home lol

[empty pollen]

maybe bad quality rubber

[limber oyster]

Why bleeding tho?

[limber oyster]

Hopefully not melting rubber

[empty pollen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dusk ginkgo]

Maybe I sliced my finger while pulling out wires

[empty pollen]

cable management? ain't no time for that

just slap the door and call it a day

😛

[dusk ginkgo]

Nah I need to cause I don't have one of those covers in the case so you see a mess

[frigid night]

Still sloppy.

[dusk ginkgo]

Ten times better than mine

Like how to I fix this up

(This is an old photo, I got new fans but wires are same)

How do I clean up the psu mess

[obsidian wigeon]

have a case that doesn't show psu basement

that's the only way

[dusk ginkgo]

Like bruh this shows cables but it's no mess

[obsidian wigeon]

the cables are pulled to the other side panel

yours didn't do that

so you need to run the other, unused cables too

[dusk ginkgo]

I wonder if I'll even have enough room for thst

[obsidian wigeon]

there will be enough as long as you can squeeze it in

[analog hearth]

I hope that green CX430 PSU isn't yours

[obsidian wigeon]

open up the other side panel

[dusk ginkgo]

No lol

[obsidian wigeon]

and run the cable

[analog hearth]

or whosever it is, I hope it doesn't blow up

[obsidian wigeon]

the psu they have is grey cxm

not that green one

[dusk ginkgo]

This is my pc, not the other one I just sent that as a cable management example

[analog hearth]

ah

looks great :)

[dusk ginkgo]

I payed 3 cent for three of those fans 😩

1 cent a fan

[fleet heron]

What the hell thats so clean

[dusk ginkgo]

Literally

hard sigh rn

[brittle tinsel]

I know this is an off the wall question but where does anyone think psu wattage will be in 10 years time?

I mean like next year aren’t we looking at 2-3k for the 40 series?

[gentle pollen]

This seems overly exaggerated....

[fossil cedar]

Impossible to tell

Also no way lol

[gentle pollen]

But yeah like Pato said there isn't really a way to tell.

[fossil cedar]

1200w should be good enough for a 4090 even on the high end of leaks

Also american breakers cap out at 1600w iirc

Soo rip NA

[young fox]

hey does anyone know if this mobo would fit well with a ryzen 5 5600G without flashing bios?

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi/p/N82E16813145082?Item=N82E16813145082&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-4LUn143bpVue6ywLXM1VcQ

[gentle pollen]

Anyone know what MX or CN breakers cap out at?

[fossil cedar]

Canada is same as us, i think same for mx but not sure

[fossil cedar]

It probably would

[fossil cedar]

Although i wouldn't really recommend buying a 5600g in the first place these days, you'd wanna grab a board like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi

[young fox]

oh ok what would be a good alternative for a 5600G

[fossil cedar]

Well what's your budget?

For the whole pc

[young fox]

around 600-700 without a gpu as of now

[gentle pollen]

Sorry I meant to say China.

[brittle tinsel]

Depends on the wiring, I believe 12.5 amp wiring can run 1500 and 15 amp wiring can run like 1750-1800. Don’t quote me, I’m not an electrician. Just trying to figure out the wiring for the addition of a game room that everyone’s computers and things will be in. And since there are 5 of us, it’s quite confusing

[fossil cedar]

No idea about asia but it's fairly easy to look up, just look up the voltage for that country

[fossil cedar]

Why bother when you can do a build for that with a decent gpu now?

Maybe it's a bit more but I've heard the avg is 1600w for NA

[mossy venture]

Might even be able to fit in that $300 6650xt

[brittle tinsel]

What is considered decent for a price like that? I’m still running off a 1060 3gb and it’s starting to have its drops

[mossy venture]

12100f 6650xt maybe

[fossil cedar]

For 700$ you can do this... Give me like 5 mins

[mossy venture]

Pato or I could make a build list

Ye

I'm about to shower so listen to pato

He big brain

[young fox]

also btw does newegg allow returns for pc parts. i've heard that for some ppl they didnt let them return their parts

[fossil cedar]

This
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kcQm78

[fossil cedar]

Ofc within a 30 day period or something

[dusk ginkgo]

It's gotten better...

[young fox]

oh ok

[mossy venture]

If needed could get a tiny bit cheaper with asus tuf 550

[fossil cedar]

Yeah but more comfortable with 600w psu for 6650xt

[dusk ginkgo]

Front looks better

[mossy venture]

Eh, it'd be fine either way

I'd be fine with a 6700xt/3060 ti on a 500

[fossil cedar]

I guess you could spend more on motherboard yeah

Ehhh

No way

[mossy venture]

I've ran a 3060 ti on an E tier 500 (not to my knowledge, but I did)

Even oced a bit and never had a psu shutdown

[fossil cedar]

Rip

[earnest olive]

it depends on which 500w psu it is

[mossy venture]

Definitely

[fossil cedar]

I ran my 3070 on my 600w w1 for like 2 weeks til i got my revo df but i made sure not to oc

[earnest olive]

e tier is a big gamble

[mossy venture]

But id be fine with a 6650xt on a B tier 550 definitely

[mossy venture]

It was a dog ass pre built

I would never recommend someone an E tier

Was just using it as an example

[earnest olive]

I know

[fossil cedar]

Yeah i guess for not much more would prefer the 650w

[earnest olive]

your skytech lol

[mossy venture]

Yep

Thermaltake smart

[fossil cedar]

And hey with rising elec prices platinum rating isn't a terrible idea lol

Nice to have at that price point

[mossy venture]

Fair enough

[brittle tinsel]

Couldn’t you combat this with dual psu builds?

[mossy venture]

No

Unless they're connected to two different breakers

[young fox]

how good would this be

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RMGpVw

[fossil cedar]

Sure if you had a huge extension cord running from a different circuit

[earnest olive]

4600g???

[mossy venture]

Far worse

[earnest olive]

what on earth

[fossil cedar]

@young fox ^^

Far better

[mossy venture]

6650xt is similar to a 2080

2060 is nowhere near that

[obsidian wigeon]

that list is so sad

[brittle tinsel]

We could probably just have 2 breakers run to each station, again I’m no electrician. But I lived in a house where each wall in a bed room had its own breaker. So it’s gotta be possible right?

I’m trying to future proof the game room

[paper summit]

Should i go with a b550 board or a cheap x570

[earnest olive]

define similar

[paper summit]

For a ryzen 5600

[fossil cedar]

Use your current board

[fossil cedar]

Would say more like 2070 super

[earnest olive]

why do you need a board upgrade for a 5600?

[mossy venture]

Well it's the closest nvidia gpu I could use for comparison seeing as 6600xt is slightly better than 2070s

Unless I'm remembering wrong

[paper summit]

Accidentally bought a b450

[fossil cedar]

Uhh not sure

[fossil cedar]

Use it?

[paper summit]

Im returning is

[earnest olive]

how much did you pay for the b450

[paper summit]

127 💀

[earnest olive]

lol

[fossil cedar]

Oof

[earnest olive]

ok yeah return it

[mossy venture]

B550 pro vdh wifi if you need wifi included

[paper summit]

Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO WIFI AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b450-aorus-pro-wifi/p/N82E16813145082?Item=N82E16813145082&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-145-082-_-09052022

[fossil cedar]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi
Would grab this

[paper summit]

Heres the board j have rn

[earnest olive]

b450 is a decent budget option when you buy it used for like $30

not when it's $127

lmao

[mossy venture]

But I want strix b450 new

[young fox]

whats the diffrence between the b450 and b550

[mossy venture]

B550 is newer

[earnest olive]

b550 has pcie 4.0 and is 99% sure to be compatible with ryzen 5000 out of the box that's about it

[paper summit]

https://a.co/d/69wW6dw

[obsidian wigeon]

that build is best headed used i guess

for gpu and stuff

[paper summit]

What about thay

[mossy venture]

Do you need built in wifi?

[obsidian wigeon]

about 600 bucks is doable with mixed new and used parts

[fossil cedar]

Wouldn't bother spending more than 120 on the pro vdh wifi

[paper summit]

Nah i use ethernet

[young fox]

why wouldnt these be compatible

[obsidian wigeon]

those all work fine

[paper summit]

Yep

[obsidian wigeon]

but that list is trash

[mossy venture]

Mhm

[obsidian wigeon]

i would say don't use it

[paper summit]

But the 5600g doesn't support pcie 4.0

[earnest olive]

the 5600g has a bigger problem than 4.0 support

[obsidian wigeon]

slow cpu perf too

it's like a 3600 lol

[paper summit]

Lol

[obsidian wigeon]

half the cache hurts it so badly

just to have igpu

[paper summit]

The igpu isnt to bad tho its alot better than intels

[earnest olive]

an igpu that won't be used due to the dgpu

[paper summit]

True

[jagged ember]

except for troubleshooting

[earnest olive]

sure but intel doesn't kneecap the cpu to include it

[obsidian wigeon]

5600g woulda been great if it had same specs as 5600

but nah

amd moment

[earnest olive]

igpu strength is irrelevant for the troubleshooting argument

just buy 12400 then

[jagged ember]

yeah

[obsidian wigeon]

ye

[jagged ember]

totally fair

[earnest olive]

even 12100 is a better cpu than 5600g

[jagged ember]

igpu troubleshooting just need to have display

[earnest olive]

I'm powering 2 displays with my 12100

it doesn't struggle with discord and wallpaper engine lol

[young fox]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tKHXhk

how bad would this be

[earnest olive]

dude

stop with the ryzen apus

[paper summit]

Lol

[earnest olive]

you were given a much better list than all of the garbage you're putting out

use it or stop spamming

[jagged ember]

is he becoming the next drqkuei dude

[young fox]

what wrong with them tho

[earnest olive]

literally 10% of the power of the list you were given

lmao

[young fox]

i mean i want a apu so would it be better going with intel or amd

[earnest olive]

intel

[paper summit]

6650xt for only 300 Damm

[jagged ember]

intel igpu

[earnest olive]

just change the 12100f to an 12100 and you're done

[young fox]

ok thanks

[ruby umbra]

Lol

[ruby umbra]

Haven't seen one in the wild tbh

Are they good?

[paper summit]

Yea but its not actually 300 if u click the pc part picker link its like 365

Or sum

https://a.co/d/0N5f97I

[ruby umbra]

These "50xt" gpus always confuse me

Idk why

Probably the weird naming

[empty pollen]

as good as a 1080ti, its like an oc version of the 6600xt

pretty good, some days it can be cheaper than the 6600xt

[ruby umbra]

Fair nuff

[paper summit]

Yea im thinking of getting it

[ruby umbra]

If it was for the standard $400

I'd say not worth

I think the 6700xt is near that

[paper summit]

And thr 6700xt is quite a bit faster right