#building-and-recc-chat

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earnest olive
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I am one of the lucky few that can run 3600

stoic island
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Don't you want 1.1-1.2v vccsa

earnest olive
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with 0.946

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but not everyone can do it

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therefore it is irresponsible to recommend anything higher than 3200

broken lake
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Is this only if I’m using a sata drive?

earnest olive
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I'm thinking about doing an everyone ping in the techie channel about this

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seems like still nobody knows about it somehow

fossil cedar
broken lake
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Ok cool

earnest olive
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should I do it

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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alright

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nvm I can't ping everyone anymore

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I remember being able to before

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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nope

fossil cedar
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Sad

broken lake
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I can’t figure out where to plug this in. Does anyone know?

earnest olive
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seems that your board has omitted that header

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so you won't be able to use front audio

fossil cedar
broken lake
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Where is that?

earnest olive
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you can still use rear audio or a DAC

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whatever that E_AUDIO is doesn't look right

broken lake
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I think that’s under here

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So it’s probably for the headphone jacks on the back

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Also is the second cord on my aio just for the rgb?

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Because if it is I’m probably just not gonna plug it in

broken lake
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@fossil cedar @earnest olive where do I plug in POWER SW

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
fossil cedar
broken lake
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Ok I think I have a working pc now

mossy venture
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Alright, the best thing to test is if a pc is waterproof

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Pour a bucket of water on it (don't actually do this)

broken lake
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Ok gimme a minute

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Gotta go grab my hose

mossy venture
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Kk

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Lmk how it goes

mossy venture
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H510 elite is the most waterproof pc case

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Now i know what nzxt was going for

rich void
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I guess just caulk up some gaps and you could have a PC/raft

mossy venture
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Exactlyyyy

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Nzxt is innovative

fossil cedar
broken lake
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Am I doing this right?

fossil cedar
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Yep

broken lake
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Cool

mossy venture
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Looks about right

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Could use some soap

fossil cedar
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Make sure it's turned on too to make sure the water has some electricity thinkies

mossy venture
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Yeah otherwise the water can't turn on

broken lake
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Ok so it’s not turning on

mossy venture
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As in part of the water joke or actually won't turn on

broken lake
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No it actually won’t turn on

leaden mauve
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I love hoses for cleaning cases

mossy venture
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Psu switched on?

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Check connections?

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Make sure rams in all the way

fossil cedar
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Did you make sure the power is on the right header

broken lake
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I mean I thought it was

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But that’s probably the problem

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It goes to pw right?

fossil cedar
broken lake
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Is the arrow + or -

vernal surge
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arrow is positive

fossil cedar
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Send a pic of it?

broken lake
fossil cedar
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Weird never seen that, nothing on the other side?

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I'd guess arrow is positive then ye

vernal surge
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really? I've always seen them marked

broken lake
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This is the other side

fossil cedar
broken lake
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But I just tried plugging it in again and it didn’t turn on still

fossil cedar
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Personally

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Okay, reseat ram, check psu is turned on

leaden mauve
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pretty sure it doesnt matter which way the power switch connector is plugged in

vernal surge
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some will have the positive and negative printed, but the arrow is always there in my experience

fossil cedar
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Uh start checking power cables possibly

broken lake
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Can’t really get the ram out at the moment lol

fossil cedar
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Not enough room?

broken lake
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Nope

fossil cedar
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Try other connections first then

potent portal
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Buttons are dumb switches that don't care about polarity, it's the LEDs that care

fossil cedar
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Figured no harm checking placement

broken lake
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So what cables do I need plugged into the psu for a pc to work?

vernal surge
vernal surge
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are you sure the switch on the PSU itself has been flipped to the ON position?

broken lake
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As sure as I can be without having access to the switch

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The line is on right?

fossil cedar
vernal surge
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I'd want to rule out the simplest causes first when troubleshooting, but I guess it's up to you

broken lake
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With the circle and the line on the switch the line is the on position right?

fossil cedar
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Uhh

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We need to know if the 1 is pressed in or not

broken lake
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The line is pushed in

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The circle is out

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I tried both tho so it’s not that

fossil cedar
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Check cpu power and 24 pin

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And gpu power

potent portal
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People have mixed up the power and reset buttons a lot. I may or may not have at one point.

broken lake
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Those all seem to be plugged in

fossil cedar
broken lake
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I did

fossil cedar
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Maybe send a pic of your front panel header

broken lake
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What’s that?

fossil cedar
potent portal
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Have we tried jumping the pins yet?

broken lake
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This is the best picture I can get

broken lake
potent portal
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Take the wire off and touch the power pins with a screwdriver

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If it turns on the issue is something with the wire

broken lake
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That didn’t do anything

fossil cedar
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Time to start checking ram n stuff then

jagged ember
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didnt plug something in, maybe?

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8pin cpu/gpu, 24pin motherboard?

earnest olive
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if anyone was curious

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3200c16 gear 1 vs. 3600c16 gear 2 in SOTTR

broken lake
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I haven’t taken the ram out since it last worked

earnest olive
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in a cpu bound scenario

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this is why i recommend 3200c16

fossil cedar
empty pollen
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well, its an i3... maybe k versions can do 3600 on gear 1

earnest olive
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even with a higher clock at the same timings, the latency penalty of gear 2 is heavy enough to incur a significant loss

fossil cedar
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@broken lake you do have your display cable connected to your gpu and not motherboard tho right?

empty pollen
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i think

earnest olive
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i've only said this for non-k cpus

empty pollen
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oh, gotcha

earnest olive
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this result is valid even for the popular 12700f

empty pollen
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yeah on non k versions gear 1 3600 is pretty hard

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the sa manager is a ******

earnest olive
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but for a K cpu you can even do 4300 gear 1 if lucky

broken lake
earnest olive
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i've been saying for a while that you should not recommend higher than 3200c16 with a non-K cpu

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i was asked to prove it today

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so i did

fossil cedar
broken lake
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It worked without one before I put it into the case

smoky lark
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Hey guys,

I need support for building a PC

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Mainly for life trading

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With 12 monitor screen

broken lake
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12 monitors

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God damn

smoky lark
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Yes sir 😂

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Just talked to support chat and advised me to get here

fossil cedar
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12?

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Sir

jagged ember
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12?

earnest olive
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12 isn't that hard

smoky lark
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Yes !

earnest olive
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you can do it with 2 gpus

jagged ember
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are you sure?

fossil cedar
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I just mean how do you see 12

earnest olive
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there's a b660 board with 4 display outs for igpu

jagged ember
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that sounds like too many yeah lol

earnest olive
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pair it with 2 4x hdmi gt 710s

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yall never seen day trader setups?

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12 is on the higher end but it's not outlandish

jagged ember
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bro

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just use an ultrawide

earnest olive
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i dont think any ultrawides are wide enough for this lol

jagged ember
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that's like 8 of those screens done

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if you use two stacked on top of each other

earnest olive
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heres some 12 screen setups prob closer to what this guy actually wants

jagged ember
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ah

broken lake
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What about the Samsung odyssey ark XD

smoky lark
earnest olive
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why doesn't pcpartpicker let us filter motherboards by number of display outs

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annoying

earnest olive
smoky lark
jagged ember
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mm I see

earnest olive
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are you serious enough of a trader to pay for the 12900KS for the maximumm single core perf?

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cause i know that's a thing a lot of them do

smoky lark
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Locally here they give me one for 8000 SR and the issue is I don’t trust on them.

earnest olive
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SR? what currency is that

smoky lark
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Saudi Riyal

earnest olive
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ah

jagged ember
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that may change things

earnest olive
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what are the specs of that local pc?

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shipping fees to saudi arabia are huge

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so may be hard to beat that with online stuff

smoky lark
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What if i get the minimum spec ?

earnest olive
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i'd call this the minimum to drive 12 displays, that's the cheapest gpu that can drive 4 displays that's in stock

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oh wait

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that ram isn't available in saudi

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one sec

smoky lark
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Kk

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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alright here's the bare minimum

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5004.75 SR

fossil cedar
smoky lark
# earnest olive 5004.75 SR

Fare enough for the pricing, with regarding this do i will face any slowdown while moving from one mont to another one ?

earnest olive
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8377.39 SR

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high single core performance, relatively low latency memory

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stuff traders tend to care about

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but if you're a beginner list 1 is fine probably

earnest olive
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i'm not a trader myself so not an expert on it, but i've had trader clients tell me that maximum single core performance and low latency are both important for being the first to grab something

smoky lark
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Second option looks fine for me, will consider it

earnest olive
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so much so that intel has made high clocked SKUs specifically for traders

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limited edition i9-9990XE

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they didn't say it was for traders but traders were jumping on it like the holy grail lol

smoky lark
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What if i upgrade the rams will change things ?

earnest olive
broken lake
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I am about ready to break this thing

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I unplugged everything

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Took the ram out

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Plugged it all back

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Put the ram back in

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And nothing

jagged ember
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you sure you're shorting the right pins right?

broken lake
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You just put the screwdriver between them right?

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While touching them

jagged ember
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just bridge the two power pins

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sometimes takes more than one try to short it

broken lake
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Yea I’ve tried like 50 times

broken lake
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I feel like such an idiot right now

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The stupid power cable extension on the inside wasn’t fully plugged in

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🤦‍♂️

empty pollen
broken lake
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Thank you to anyone who helped me try and figure out my issue

empty pollen
broken lake
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I finished building this just in time to go to work and no be able to use it for like 6 hours XD

empty pollen
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happen to the best of us

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not to worry

broken lake
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It is now time to fix this mess of cables I made while trouble shooting

mossy venture
broken lake
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ITS ON

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WOOOO

mossy venture
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Pog

broken lake
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Is it normal for my cpu to idle at like 12-25%?

mossy venture
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Probably just normal windows bloatware

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Could run rawrs debloating script, idk where it's pinned

broken lake
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Is it something I can find by just googling it?

mossy venture
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Probably not

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@fossil cedar

broken lake
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Also should my fans be blowing air out or bringing air in?

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Probably something I should’ve asked a long time ago

fossil cedar
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Open task manager sort by high to low, what's using it

mossy venture
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Front fans should be intakes, bottom should be intakes

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Top and back should be exhaust

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Atleast with most builds, sometimes will vary

fossil cedar
broken lake
fossil cedar
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Where you downloading games or something?

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Send a screenshot?

broken lake
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It’s between 0 and 1% after closing steam

fossil cedar
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Ah okay

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You did do a fresh install of Windows 11 right?

broken lake
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I’m using 10

fossil cedar
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You're using 12600k right?

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You should be using 11

broken lake
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Also my fans are top mounted on a radiator

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lol

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I ordered new keycaps the other day XD

rich void
broken lake
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Yessir

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I was getting very mad at it tho lol

broken lake
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I was actually about to just say screw it and rebuild it all tomorrow

rich void
broken lake
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I was just thinking it made sense to have air flowing over everything

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But I can switch it later

fossil cedar
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You'll want to draw where you have fans on the case atm maybe

rich void
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Yeah that'd be best

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It depends on location and your case. I have a p400a so I had to mount a rad in front and because of that I have my fans on intake there. Normally I'd prefer to top mount the rad and do exhaust

fossil cedar
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They're itx so that's especially why i need to see fans drawn on

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Not as simple

rich void
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Yep 100%

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I was thinking exhaust may be better for itx as you have a smaller space where you could really be trapping hear

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If the fans aren't too inaccessible they could always try both though

broken lake
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Something like this

fossil cedar
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What bout the rest of case fan's tho?

broken lake
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That’s it

fossil cedar
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Oh

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Might wanna grab a few p12 slims or something

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If that's your only fans, for the monent you want intake assuming there's a mesh filter there anyway

rich void
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What case?

fossil cedar
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Lian li ah20 or something

cyan ravine
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Dan a4xh20 iirc

fossil cedar
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That's the one

cyan ravine
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Who's Dan, anyway?

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I'm always reminded of that when I think of the case like who even

fossil cedar
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Who knows

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I think it's spelt dahn tho

cyan ravine
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Upmarket Dan

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Dahn

broken lake
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Sorry I’m driving

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Yea that’s the case

fossil cedar
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DON'T TEXT AND DRIVE

jagged ember
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danger

broken lake
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Sorry pato

jagged ember
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stop it

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stop it now

broken lake
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I’m parked now XD

cyan ravine
broken lake
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lol

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Sorry mom

cyan ravine
empty pollen
potent portal
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Windows 11 has the task scheduler built in, no extra anything needed

empty pollen
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so, basically a 12th gen is just plug and play on win11

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?

potent portal
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Yes

empty pollen
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sweet

potent portal
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12600k+ you basically need 11

empty pollen
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yeah i have 12700f on my sis machine, runs like a breeze

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so, in win 10 you cant see the e-cores? or they just dont behave as e-cores?

potent portal
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Windows 10 doesn't yet know the difference between e-cores and regular cores

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So you'll get tasks being shuffled around normally, which wreaks havoc in things like gaming

empty pollen
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so win10 can potentially assign heavy loads to e-cores just by default and you can feel the frequency penalty right?

potent portal
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If a game has anti cheat it can get you banned, because the sudden change in cores can trigger it

jagged ember
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simply perish

earnest olive
mossy venture
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Oh wait it has?

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Pog

potent portal
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Oh has it? I missed that news, figured it would be in a GN weekly recap or something

mossy venture
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Means I can go 13th gen and stick with 10

earnest olive
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i'm having a hard time finding the source but i remember reading about it

desert gulch
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Eww

earnest olive
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all the results i'm getting are from 2021

desert gulch
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"trust me bro"

earnest olive
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you should move to 11 anyways as it seems to have some benefits beyond the scheduler

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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i am trying really hard to find the source right now

potent portal
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As of June it appears to still be an issue

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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alright, i can't find a source so i'm going to retract that statement

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i distinctly remember reading about it

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but i can't find anything now

earnest olive
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my windows install survived 5800x > 12100 with no issues, just changed a few drivers

potent portal
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Thread director doesn't appear to be coming to 10 any time soon according to Intel. They gave it the basic "hardware guided scheduling" instead

cyan ravine
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I remember splave still recommending win 11 recently

earnest olive
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i still recommend 11 as well

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just heard that 10 was able to use e-cores by now

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like, correctly

fossil cedar
fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Spleeb

earnest olive
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well i'll wait and see if i have any issues

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did you do anything manually driver-wise?

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i clean uninstalled amd chipset drivers, installed intel chipset drivers, removed old ethernet driver and installed new one

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zero unknown devices in device manager

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all benches are good

fossil cedar
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i installed the ryzen ones, never had the fx ones manually so only what might have been in device manager, didnt know that at the time

twin sedge
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So i should get 3200 instead

earnest olive
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it probably had some residual chipset drivers

fossil cedar
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probs

earnest olive
fossil cedar
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but PITA

earnest olive
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3600c16 gear 2

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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why pay more for less?

twin sedge
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I really want to get trident z but i know its not worth it

earnest olive
twin sedge
earnest olive
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especially if you do more than just game

earnest olive
twin sedge
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Its $115 rn

earnest olive
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nobody stopped me from spending almost $100 on rgb cables

twin sedge
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Is that ok?

earnest olive
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for 32gb?

twin sedge
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Yeah

earnest olive
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3200c16?

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that's not that bad

twin sedge
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Yep

earnest olive
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that's like what a $20 premium over the cheapest 32gb 3200c16?

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if it makes you happy, go for it dude

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custom pcs are meant to be custom

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you do you

twin sedge
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Nvm its $118

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But still probably fine

earnest olive
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do whatever makes you happy lol

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it's your pc

twin sedge
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Alright

earnest olive
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if you can justify the extra cost then do it

twin sedge
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Im so exited for this build

fossil cedar
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anyway yeah

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if you can justify it for looks sure

twin sedge
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Going from a 7 year old laptop to a 3060ti and 12400

earnest olive
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is there a difference here?

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i see a different part number

fossil cedar
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Rgb

earnest olive
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they're both rgb

fossil cedar
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Oh wait

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Hmm

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I thought they where the non rgbs

earnest olive
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one of them is $5 cheaper but i don't see any real difference

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it's still 2x16gb 3200 16-18-18-38

cyan ravine
earnest olive
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hmm you think so?

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could be

fossil cedar
earnest olive
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oh

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lol, wow

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they hid it well enough that pcpp scraper doesn't see it

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oh wait

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derp

fossil cedar
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Free shipping if you spend over 75$

earnest olive
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yeah

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so i guess you can save 5 bucks

fossil cedar
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So

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Lol

earnest olive
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it's $5 cheaper for identical product

fossil cedar
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110$ products
5$ delivery
Free delivery if you spend over 75$ HmmFroge

earnest olive
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yeah idk why they even put the shipping fee there then

twin sedge
earnest olive
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yeah

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i can't see any difference

twin sedge
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Lol what

earnest olive
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it's sold by newegg

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same product picture

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same capacity

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same timings

twin sedge
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Well i get to save $5

jagged ember
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that's one kitkat

fossil cedar
jagged ember
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uh

rich void
fossil cedar
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I don't think they do that but they should

cyan ravine
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They sell big kit kats here for $5

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No way could I finish one of those

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Like a whole chocolate block

fossil cedar
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Dammit I'm hungry now

cyan ravine
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Ya

fossil cedar
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I just brushed my teeth and got into bed

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Dam youuuu

cyan ravine
fossil cedar
cyan ravine
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Hey I proved a kit kat for 5 dolla

fossil cedar
cyan ravine
fossil cedar
cyan ravine
fossil cedar
potent portal
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2 lb KitKat 🤤

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That's a misrepresentation though, it is not in fact the largest KitKat.

leaden mauve
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that would literally kill me

cyan ravine
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I was thinking Fal'Cie was gonna out themselves as the creator of the world's largest KitKat kekw

potent portal
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I would have diabetes if I made/ate that thing. I can feel my insulin spiking just looking at it.

leaden mauve
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my body doesnt even produce insulin Throttled

twin sedge
leaden mauve
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@strong raft why do you react with that emote lmao

strong raft
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You diabetic or just making nonsense? Can't tell on this server sometimes. I feel like eventually I should have diabeetus myself actually. kekw Concerned_Pepe

leaden mauve
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yea i have type 1 lmao

broken lake
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Ok so now that I have a new pc I’m excited and I wanna get new ram and a new ssd lol

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What would you guys recommend for a 2tb m.2 and 32gb of ram?

cyan ravine
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Mp33/Adata swordfish for the ssd rn

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For the 32gb ram def silicon power 3200's

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For the swordfish you may have to take off the heatsink to get it to fit on the mobo if the mobo has it's own heatsink where you're installing it

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/take off the mobo heatsink and use the swordfish as is

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The mp33 though you don't have to worry about that

bright dome
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hey peeps have a memory upgrade "?"

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currently running DDR4 3600 CL16, just got a huge raise at work was thinking of going to 64Gb ram from my 32 but thinking about getting all new ram whats faster then what I have currently running i7/12700k with MSI tomahawk DDR4 wifi MB

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my son has the "ditto" of my system and was gonna give him my 32Gb if I do go with totally new RAM

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current build

potent portal
bright dome
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so no sense going to 64?

potent portal
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Not unless you're doing workstation tasks that will actually use the extra memory

bright dome
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okay, thank you

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nah all i do is minor gaming

potent portal
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You could get a kit of 32gb 4400c18 memory or something but you'll need to do manual tuning to actually get anything out of it

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Btw that parts list is set to private

bright dome
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so if i get that and give my son mine, without doing any "tuning" I wont get worse but I woint get really any better?

potent portal
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Basically yes

bright dome
potent portal
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The main purpose of getting those faster kits of memory is the sub timings tune really well

bright dome
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okay then once again thank you

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then I'll probab;y do that and give my son my memory and have him come show me how to "tune" it. my knowledge is out dated lol

potent portal
bright dome
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ok ty

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I'll read-up on it and play around with it.

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okay have a good night

potent portal
bright dome
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ok thank you

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in over clocking there are 2 diff DDR4 "pinned" which one would be more beneficial for me?

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both labeled as ddr4 guide

potent portal
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Probably the memtesthelper one is better since it gives you a few values to try

bright dome
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ty

potent portal
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You should easily be able to set 1.5v on those sticks with no risk of overheating them, possibly more

bright dome
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kewl beans man thank you

strong raft
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Also afaik not a lot of setups can do much over 3600 on ram w/o going to Gear 2, which we don't normally like.

high yew
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this may sound stupid, but if i were to get a new motherboard and keep the same ssd - how does that work? what process would i have to go through?

forest briar
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If it’s m.2 be aware it is not plug and play to transfer as far as I am aware

high yew
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yeah my 1tb m.2

forest briar
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I’m pretty sure you cannot plug it back into a new board and have it work

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I may be wrong though

obsidian wigeon
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you can do that

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but i don't recommend it

high yew
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so a new m.2 is required?

forest briar
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I don’t think so

obsidian wigeon
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chipset drivers might vause confilcts and lead to unoptimal performance

forest briar
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There’s just a process for it iirc

jagged ember
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you need to wipe it and reinstall windows

obsidian wigeon
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^

forest briar
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Ah ok

jagged ember
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unless you want unstable windows lol

obsidian wigeon
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just wipe it and you're good

high yew
#

no i do not lmfao

forest briar
#

So I wasn’t wrong :p

obsidian wigeon
#

i mean, it would work but probably not so good

#

i did the same thing just to test a laptop

#

wasn't good kek

high yew
#

best way to sell some pc components would be to..?

#

ebay?

jagged ember
#

fb marketplace

high yew
#

facebook marketplace?

jagged ember
#

yeah

strong raft
#

or r/HWS

obsidian wigeon
#

r/hardwareswap is also good

jagged ember
#

hardwareswap ye

obsidian wigeon
#

hardwareswap is safer

#

cause they only allow paypal for non cash

jagged ember
#

still meet in a public place where you can test it

high yew
#

being in canada, this work?

obsidian wigeon
#

yeah

#

r/canadianhardwareswap works too

leaden mauve
#

hmmmmm i wonder if hwswap has any good lga2011 stuff deals

potent portal
#

Not that I've seen but I'll help you look

leaden mauve
#

nah you dont need to lol

potent portal
#

Most recent is 6 days ago. It's an Asus x99 board, 1630 v3, and 16gb 2133 memory for $250.

leaden mauve
#

I think I've seen most of the posts, but could I get a link to that one since you're already looking at it

leaden mauve
#

oh its not a trash x99 board nice

#

"included for free" lol sure

#

just that board for 250 is an awful deal

potent portal
#

Exactly, that's like selling a car and saying "I'll throw in the tires for free"

leaden mauve
#

lol

#

I got my rampage 5 edition 10 for 160 bucks shipped

#

plus original box and accessories

still roostBOT
#
Shrekqsqurus Rex#5876 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

dense stirrup
little osprey
#

I can imagine some would take that seriously 💀

potent portal
#

You won't be able to upgrade anything on that system ever, except maybe adding more memory

#

HP loves to make proprietary parts that won't work with any off shelf parts

dense stirrup
potent portal
#

I'm assuming you know her personally then

dense stirrup
#

No sorry

#

I just wanted you guys to think I was friends with a girl

little osprey
#

😭

little osprey
#

But I'm also not who this is for and the actual owner does in fact probably not know how to open a PC or replace/upgrade components of one

high yew
#

would it be stupid to have a gigabyte mobo, but have an asus or msi gpu? or stay with gigabyte for gpu's? i've heard nothing bad about gigabyte, but my friend informed me that he had one at a point and it blew up on him lol

little osprey
#

you can mix and match manufacturers as you please

#

Depends on the card

somber knot
little osprey
#

This is just basically the same thing as what someone else recommended but with the "needed ram and storage upgrades" already done

#

nvm thats a 300$ price hike for 100$ worth of an upgrade

potent portal
#

Prebuilt prices are stupid right now. $900 for a 3600+1650? Hell no

potent portal
little osprey
#

out of budget I'm realizing

#

budget is 530 max

#

😭

#

since its changed

potent portal
#

Oof, you'll only get an iGPU build out of that if you're lucky

#

The 5600g is fairly capable at that, avoid Intel their iGPU sucks

somber knot
# little osprey budget is 530 max

If you're looking for a gaming pc with a budget of 530 your better off buying used parts and building it on your own especially with the market rn.

little osprey
#

Not applicable to the situation

vivid saffron
#

I am at the end of my rope, is this where I can maybe get help? I was getting ignored in genchat 🙄

still roostBOT
vivid saffron
#

I got a new GPU which windows acted funky with aka wouldn't properly load drivers... ended up resetting windows... and now my mouse and keyboard don't work on boot

#

I could get the keyboard to work in recovery after resetting cmos, but legacy usb is enabled already, and once I leave recovery, the keyboard doesnt work anymore

#

Yes fresh windows install

#

That's gonna take a sec 😂

#

Intel i5 2500k, Asus P8Z68-V/GEN3 mobo

#

Not really sure what other specs you may want 😂

#

Evga rtx 2060

vivid saffron
#

F****k yes!!! Even though I thought I had tried all usb slots with the keyboard/mouse... I missed one... literally one... and it allowed me to do more safe mode troubleshooting... that at least opens more doors to find a fix...

potent portal
#

Sheesh that thing is ancient, 11 year old CPU

leaden mauve
#

hey dont talk bad about sandybridge :(

little osprey
#

Theoretically

broken lake
#

is your cpu socket still broken? lol

little osprey
#

Could a cpu/motherboard work without the plastic clamp part since it'd just clamp down?

#

🤔

potent portal
#

What "plastic clamp part"?

little osprey
#

Above the pin injectors

#

Where the pins connect

potent portal
#

Are you maybe talking about the retention bracket?

little osprey
#

I guess?

#

The greying bracket

#

Greyish

potent portal
#

This thing?

little osprey
#

oops wrong link

#

The plastic

#

Under it is connectors

#

Not pins

potent portal
#

Oh, that's 100% necessary for multiple reasons

little osprey
#

Why?

potent portal
#

The pins don't just sit in there, when you bring the lever down it clamps on them and holds it in place

little osprey
#

Any way to replace just the plastic part?

#

Mine on one side broke off the plastic

potent portal
#

And without that part, when you screw down the cooler it's extremely likely you'll break pins or it'll miss contact on the pads

#

Ohhhh you mean the clips holding the socket in place?

little osprey
#

I lost the plastic part

#

Yes

potent portal
#

Yikes

little osprey
#

The plastic part

#

Not the lever

potent portal
#

There's a decent chance if it wobbles at all that it'll be off center

little osprey
#

Explain?

#

Is it worth a shot or should I just refund and save up for a new board to go with cpu(my cpu is at newegg rn)

potent portal
#

It needs to be exactly placed, if it rotates even 2 degrees pins won't contact properly

#

If you want to take the risk of damaging the CPU you can try to run it

little osprey
#

What intel board/cpu combo do you rec with wifi included on board

#

I dont like amd rn

potent portal
#

Depends on the budget but I'd personally wait for 13th gen

little osprey
#

For 200

#

Usd

#

Preferably all on one site

#

I'd like the cpu to be atleast 6core on par ith 3600

#

With*

potent portal
#

At $200 your options are limited

#

But the 12100 does beat the 3600 in most games

little osprey
#

?

potent portal
#

Ignore the shill lol

leaden mauve
#

lmao

potent portal
little osprey
leaden mauve
#

most of them

little osprey
#

Im talking without card

leaden mauve
#

plus lga2011-3 chips are hella cheap

little osprey
#

2011-3?

leaden mauve
#

dont actually get an x99 board and cpu

#

for you it probably wouldnt be the right move lol

potent portal
little osprey
#

I plan on warzone and mc

leaden mauve
#

I just like X99 because multi-core and super cheap for the performance you get

little osprey
#

Warzone rec's 6core

#

As a minimal

leaden mauve
#

1660V3 goes for 38 bucks right now, unlocked haswell 8 core 💪

#

just sayin

little osprey
potent portal
leaden mauve
potent portal
#

5800X

leaden mauve
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

little osprey
#

I want amd but I dont think I could get a board that supports 5000 series under 60$

#

My cpu at newegg rn is 5600

#

I sent back by mistake to realize was board

#

Straight out of box I mean

cyan ravine
#

Since bios update is needed

little osprey
#

What would be cheapest?

cyan ravine
#

I think it's the msi pro vdh wifi

little osprey
#

For out of box support

cyan ravine
#

It's like 139 or something iirc

potent portal
#

You can get a refurb B550 board for $90

cyan ravine
#

Yea 2nd hand would be the best shot at it

#

You need it updated for 5600 non x

little osprey
#

I heard from someone running a 5800x it ran it fine out of box

#

On a b550

#

Was a b550 steel legend

cyan ravine
#

5800x and 5600 released at completely different times

#

5600 non-X is a lot newer

little osprey
#

oof

potent portal
#

Yeah it came out in March I think?

#

Somewhere around there

little osprey
#

Im probably best off refunding the cpu and saving $

cyan ravine
#

So any old board isn't guaranteed you either want a new one with bios flash or a 2nd hand/refurb/renew that has been updated to the latest bios

little osprey
#

Until can afford

potent portal
#

Next gen is coming in October so we'll see price drops on current stuff, or you can jump on a newer one

little osprey
#

The struggle pepecry

#

Oct?

cyan ravine
#

Around there. Next gen ryzen launches in less than 2 weeks apparently

little osprey
#

Bet

#

Refunding it and saving

#

😂

#

Oct would be better saving wise

potent portal
#

It's not even announced yet so maybe that's what's in 2 weeks

little osprey
#

I get 50 a month

#

For myself

#

Assuming my compulsive ahh doesnt spend it immediately

#

Was a struggle saving for the 5600

potent portal
#

The upgrade itch is tough to ignore

little osprey
#

I love to have the latest tech

#

The only problem is its usually $$$$$

#

Which I dont have lmao

potent portal
#

At least CPU upgrades you can typically go longer between than GPU upgrades

little osprey
#

Meaning?

potent portal
#

Games tend to use more graphical power than compute power

little osprey
#

Cpu lasts longer?

#

My rx570 works a charm still

cyan ravine
broken lake
#

so I upgraded to windows 11 like you guys recommended

cyan ravine
#

Weeks???

#

Omg I'm so tired

broken lake
#

and now my task bar is gone

cyan ravine
#

My left brain said days but my right brain said weeks slap

little osprey
#

Your right side brain is knowledge section

#

Shame

potent portal
# little osprey My rx570 works a charm still

If you get a solid midrange CPU you can typically go 5+ years without upgrading it, but in order to keep up with the latest games at decent settings you'll be upgrading the GPU more often.

little osprey
#

Right frontal lobe is memory, cognitive, and motor functions

#

I know cause I have damage there

cyan ravine
#

Oh no

little osprey
#

Doc told me

broken lake
#

do you guys know where my task bar went?

little osprey
#

In peter parkers web

broken lake
#

lol

little osprey
#

I just thought of something

broken lake
#

I got windows 11 and now there is just an empty grey bar at the bottom of my screen

little osprey
#

rip who parker impreggos

#

If he can

#

Might be webs

#

🤔

broken lake
#

...

potent portal
little osprey
#

Taskbar?

#

Its always there?

potent portal
#

Except when it's not

broken lake
#

like right now

#

lol

little osprey
#

What if the taskbar

#

Is hiding from you

#

Said this man updated me

#

Heck nah

#

"I thought I was perfect"

#

I need counceling.

#

Oh wait

#

Nvm

broken lake
#

I am confused lol

little osprey
#

I had over 100 in like 5 years

#

As a kid

#

I want to say it was like 100 in a year but Im not 100% sure

#

Most gave up on me

#

Or was that therapists

#

I forget, they seem the same to me

#

I think it was therapist

#

Like I literally had 100 of them in a really short time frame for that many

broken lake
#

woo I have a task bar again

potent portal
#

Cool. Check that the apps show properly. If not I have a PowerShell command you can run.

broken lake
#

they seem fine

little osprey
#

Im joking

#

I dont have one

#

I have slide display

#

Or gesture navigation

broken lake
#

whenever I open valorant on windows 11 it throws me an error saying that tpm 2.0 and secure boot need to be enabled

#

and both are

#

but I can't play

little osprey
#

Double check

potent portal
broken lake
#

is that even english

little osprey
#

Im using a pixel phone

potent portal
#

Simple, LG, Motorola, Samsung
Lgmotosam

little osprey
#

I dont use lg moto sam

potent portal
#

Generic garbage name I made up lol

little osprey
#

XD

#

@broken lake mr bad name how old are you

potent portal
little osprey
#

Didnt see that

#

lmao

little osprey
#

Verifying you not a 12 yo

broken lake
#

I can tell you that I am definitely not 12

little osprey
#

Are you atleast 16?

broken lake
#

yes

little osprey
#

You must be atleast 16 yo to understand my stupidity

#

Also use of bad jokes sometimes

broken lake
#

I see

little osprey
#

Nsfw jokes*

broken lake
#

I know what you mean

little osprey
#

Fun fact: I only make nsfw jokes, no other kinds

broken lake
#

I am too lazy to make jokes

little osprey
#

Unless Im feeling extra braindead

#

I actually will be braindead eventually tho

#

When my right frontal lobe fully corrodes

broken lake
#

sounds like a wonderful time

little osprey
#

Pretty sure it works like that but idk

potent portal
#

The clock's ticking on me too, almost every one of my family gets dementia before 50

little osprey
#

Sounds legit

#

Sounds like 90% of families ngl

potent portal
#

My poor great grandma, in her final years, thought the intersection outside the hospice was a race track. At the red light she said so excitedly, "look, they're lining up for the races!"

little osprey
#

Personal belief: our original civilization died off, and we were left with primitive until we started advancing

#

Kinda like dr stone but alot slower and past was alot more advanced

little osprey
#

Also nobody turned to stone

#

Tbh I wonder what did happen tho

#

For a civilization reset

broken lake
#

Where can I find tpm 2.0 in bios?

little osprey
#

Cpu settings

#

If amd

#

What board

broken lake
#

z690i aorus ultra lite

little osprey
#

Uhhhh

#

Does it have tpm built in?

#

W10 doesnt req tpm

broken lake
#

I would assume it has it built in

#

You can’t upgrade to windows 11 without it iirc

little osprey
#

Enabling TPM 2.0 on Gigabyte Aorus Intel motherboard:
"The company (Gigabyte) has officially announced motherboards with chipsets from both Team Blue and Red that will support Windows 11 by default down the line by flipping on the PTT (Intel) or fTPM (AMD) feature within the BIOS settings and among them are the X299, C621, C232, C236, C246, 200,...

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little osprey
#

You just get some features disabled if no tpm

#

Like the android function

broken lake
#

Well in any case

#

It is enabled

#

And so is secure boot

potent portal
broken lake
#

Ok apparently restarting my pc is all it needed

potent portal
#

There's a reason that's always step 1 for troubleshooting

broken lake
#

I already did that tho

#

And it didn’t work the first time

#

But I did it a second time

#

And voila it worked

potent portal
#

In the words of every phone support ever, "do it again with me on the phone"

broken lake
#

Fair enough

#

also I just realized I ordered a mouse pad literally bigger than my desk

#

that is gonna be great

potent portal
#

Bigger desk time stonks

broken lake
#

I do want to get a bigger desk at some point

#

but I am going to college next week so I will probably get a new desk next summer

broken lake
little osprey
#

What if we ourselves are the aliens

#

We invaded this planet

broken lake
#

look how cool it looks

little osprey
#

Ngl that looks pretty lit

#

Im a fan of japanese mythology

broken lake
#

it was way too expensive

#

like idk why I bought it expensive

little osprey
#

Aesthetics

potent portal
# little osprey What if we ourselves are the aliens

We could be, in a sense. You could even line that up with evolution theories. Where did the first bacteria come from? Maybe we hitched a ride on an asteroid, and adapted to our new surroundings. Archaebacteria is extremely hardy and could survive being frozen in a vacuum.

little osprey
#

I H A T E that every game is going pay to cosmetic

broken lake
#

I think most people hate it

little osprey
broken lake
#

because we built different

little osprey
#

It killed 90% of life on earth

potent portal
#

Simple answer is there were no people then

#

Primates were barely a thing

#

They survived in caves mostly

little osprey
#

Yea

broken lake
#

I have monkey brain

jagged ember
obsidian wigeon
#

^

analog hearth
#

honestly, I would prefer to pay for DLCs, rather than have that be released for free and then it's only cosmetics that you're paying for

#

because if it's neither of those, it's just pay-to-win you're dealing with

#

but the company has to make money somehow

#

I would love it if games had DLCs you had to pay for rather than those other two options. I mean, look at COD's golden age (basically MW2 to BO2)

drowsy zodiac
#

just ordered some ram lol

humble fossil
#

hi

#

i have this
Is it possible to download games on it and play from it?

obsidian wigeon
#

yes

humble fossil
#

thx :)

humble fossil
#

and even games like rdr2 and cod warzone?

jagged ember
#

will be fine

#

I ran warzone on an hdd

humble fossil
#

ok thx

glacial basin
#

can someone offer any ad.vice. Currently got a macbook pro 14 with 8-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD. Its only 2 months old and i am having issues with it. Can someone help me find a desktop PC that will be a better overall machine and more powerful as i paid around £2000 for this laptop.

fossil cedar
glacial basin
#

day to day use (multiple chrome tabs, emails, discord), coding on VScode, using it for work related things so microsoft applications and maybe the odd bit of gaming on the side

smoky lark
ornate condor
#

Looking for decent 1300w psu

#

I see evga ones are dirt cheap but idk if they're any good

potent portal
#

Which EVGA ones? I'll check it against the tier list

ornate condor
#

Those looking decent but I still couldn't keeep in my mind which one is good lol

potent portal
#

G+ is B tier

#

So is GT

ornate condor
#

Looks like tier list I been using is outdated. Would you mind link recent tier list pls

potent portal
#

P+ isn't on the tier list but all the other P's are B

ornate condor
#

I think What I been using was rev13 lol

#

So everything cheap is B tier hmm

potent portal
#

Looks that way, everything under $200 is

ornate condor
#

Which evga ones are A tier thonk

potent portal
#

P2

ornate condor
#

But expensive pepeF

potent portal
#

You could get the P+ 1600W for $200, the higher wattage should make up for lower tier

ornate condor
#

Yeah looking at one right now lol

#

Were thinking same thing

potent portal
#

It's also worth checking b stock

ornate condor
#

Evga having good sale on psus yeah I will look for it

ornate condor
#

Yeah this is what I currently using. It's good one . But it's 3th part seller with 2 reviews hmm

earnest olive
#

cooler change is unnecessary

#

you're mostly using a single core load

drowsy zodiac
#

ordered this today

fossil cedar
# glacial basin day to day use (multiple chrome tabs, emails, discord), coding on VScode, using ...

how much gaming? cuz if youre only doing a small bit of gaming maybe a 6700xt or 3060 ti would be as far as you should go, maybe less, definitely not something you should spend near 2k on. I would do something like this assuming youre talking prebuilt this one looks like the best value
https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-patriot-intel-core-i5-6-core-nvidia-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming.html?config=12069-163347,12193-149421,12317-151366,12441-153229,13135-159437,13476-180186,13479-165549,13482-165564,13485-165573,13488-165594,13963-168464,14272-170952,16376-185681,17616-197774,23521-255839,23596-258718,24463-266996
if you are talking about building yourself https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Q8DsMb

high yew
#

i have the option of getting a 6800xt or a 3080. which one should i go for? i’m leaning more towards nvidia currently for the ray tracing and shadow play, but there has to be some upsides with amd no?

fossil cedar
high yew
#

there’s this and i’m liking the pricing on it

fossil cedar
#

That's really bad pricing

high yew
#

for being in canada? all 6800’s are like that

fossil cedar
#

Oh canada

high yew
#

yuppers

fossil cedar
#

80$ cheaper

drowsy zodiac
#

welcome to canada where the prices are high for everything lol

fossil cedar
#

Nah converting cad to usd it's pretty similar

drowsy zodiac
#

fr?

#

i just remember taking out 500$ usd and it was like 650 i think cad lol about two months ago

#

and like in the us food is so cheap

#

in Ontario the tax rate is 13%

high yew
#

that one i sent, is it good or no?

fossil cedar
#

Yeah that would work, although personally I'd highly recommend against that, would get a weaker gpu you can can actually afford now, financing for something that small is not a good financial decision

glacial basin
fossil cedar
analog pulsar
#

oh

fossil cedar
#

Robery

analog pulsar
#

lol

ornate condor
#

any decent pcie4 riser cable ?

analog pulsar
thorny sparrow
#

can anyone explain to me why my m.2 ssd ddoes not show up when i installed it?

potent portal
#

Does it show in BIOS?

thorny sparrow
#

I had one in there and needed to add another but its not showing up

#

let me check

ornate condor
#

you have to format it from disk managament

potent portal
#

You probably just need to open disk management to initialize it and create a partition

analog pulsar
#

How much performance increases would be from mobile 3070 to 3080 12GB desktop I saw 3070 vs 3070 would be 30% 👀

thorny sparrow
#

But that's the thing it does not show up in disk management

#

Where would I go in bios to see if it shows up

potent portal
#

Should be the first screen that comes up

#

Some m.2 slots conflict with other ports like SATA

thorny sparrow
#

Ok so it does show up in disk management as disk 1. But it's unallocated

potent portal
#

Right click and create a volume

#

If you're using the whole disk as one partition you can just use the defaults in the window that comes up

thorny sparrow
#

Yeah I just need it to store my files as it will not be my OS drive

#

Thank you

little osprey
#

For 250USD

#

What intel board and cpu(6core) could I get @potent portal

#

For gaming

desert gulch
#

12400(f) and a b660/h670

little osprey
#

H670?

#

Never heard of a h670

desert gulch
#

Sometimes can be a good option depending on prices