building-and-recc-chat

[undone saddle]

Maybe after couple months of building the pc lol

[frigid night]

Also, where would I get a new cable for my psu? Antec doesn't have them listed and getting a hold of them through their site is non existent.

[potent portal]

Which model

[frigid night]

https://www.newegg.com/antec-high-current-gamer-extreme-series-hcg1000-extreme-1000w/p/N82E16817371112?item=N82E16817371112

I mean, like I said I have a total of 8 6+2 pcie, but ya know, just in case lol

[frigid night]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-begging-attention-gif-8380139

[potent portal]

I'm looking I'm looking lol

[frigid night]

No rush. I'm at work anyways.

[potent portal]

"no rush"
As you're tugging on my pants

[frigid night]

Luckily there is a gif above to put this into context.

Inb4 pato pops in with a sus meme

[weary galleon]

rx6600 for $260 a decent buy?

[potent portal]

@frigid night Looks like you'd have to either buy a "for parts" unit of the same model off eBay or get someone to make custom cables like this, they're not sold officially. https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/678006938/customized-antec-full-modular-psu-cables

[frigid night]

Yeah, that was the conclusion I came to as well

Reviews on antec psus tend to say they don't even offer replacements

[potent portal]

Yep I didn't see anyone getting replies when they emailed support

This is why I went Corsair lol

Specifically because they offered the FE 12 pin cable

[frigid night]

I was still super noob when I put all this together, but the psu only cost me..

$120

It was on a super sale. I assume they have discontinued it because it looks out of stock. Has been for months now.

[potent portal]

Not bad at all, mine cost $140

But that 12 pin cable actually got me over 100 extra points on time spy

[frigid night]

What's the 12 pin cable?

[potent portal]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/12-pin-GPU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920274

It's for the founders edition 30 series

My theory backed by science is that using a shorter cable instead of a longer cable plus an adapter gets me better voltage regulation

Which is where those points come from

[frigid night]

Oh ok, that makes sense

[willow quest]

im downloading something on steam. Is the power supposed to be very high?

My CPU temps also get high when something on steam downloads

[frank stirrup]

Ignore that tbh

[willow quest]

what about my cpu temps

dont know why its getting high during steam downloads

is that normal?

I never monitored my CPU temps on my last comp so I have nothing to compare it with

[potent portal]

Yes, since it's doing a lot more than just downloading data. It's downloading compressed files, that it has to decompress into temporary folders, then copy to the destination, verify the files, and then delete the compressed and temporary data. All at the same time, for hundreds of files at once.

[weary galleon]

also 65ish C isn't anything to worry about

Except maybe when fully idle

[earnest olive]

can confirm I've gotten a replacement for an antec psu before

unless you mean replacement cables

[frigid night]

Cables

Also, update on the customer service interaction. After calling them out about the "blurry picture" they have issued me a refund. So I got a total of 16 fans from them for free. They still work functionality wise, just the white is yellow. Soo.. win win win

[cyan ravine]

hm

now to sell the fans for the fourth win

[frigid night]

At a discount because light colors show yellow? Like light blue has a little yellow tint, but dark colors don't.

[frigid night]

I wonder 🤔

[cyan ravine]

If you put them up for like $5 each and gave the caveat in the description I think you'd get at least a few bites

[frigid night]

Hm. They were tech $14 each.

[cyan ravine]

ya but fans are so basic

[frigid night]

I could probably get bites for $8 or $9 each?

[cyan ravine]

I mean, I meant this as a joke

but real talk if you're shopping for pc fans second hand

it's gonna be a beggar price

[frigid night]

Yeah, but at the same time. If you got a red build (example), these fans would serve that purpose flawlessly. Also the rainbow puke doesn't seem affected since the colors change so quickly.

[cyan ravine]

i legit wonder if refurbishing them is possible

[frigid night]

I def wouldn't charge full price.

[cyan ravine]

like if the frosted covers could be taken off and cleaned

[frigid night]

Hm. I'll have to see if I can take one apart.

[cyan ravine]

then you could use them in other pc's/sell them in a build or two

[frigid night]

Have 16 of them so losing 1 isn't a huge loss. I mean, they were free after all

[cyan ravine]

or sell them for 8 or 9

i wouldn't do more than like 5 if they stayed yellow'd tho lol

[frigid night]

Yeah, true. It's the LEDs themselves though from my understanding.

[frigid night]

Through their website? Any time I try to send them an email it gives me a pop up that says error.

[earnest olive]

don't remember exactly

[frigid night]

Alright.

[frigid night]

I totally read this as girlfriend yesterday night 🤣

[earnest olive]

lol

[stuck juniper]

is 6750xt better than 3070

K

[runic spruce]

Personally I wouldn’t take that

That’s just me tho

[analog hearth]

^npc comment

[regal dust]

change sum or nah? ps* he likes nvidia and need a lot of usb ports

[undone saddle]

Why not increase 30$ to switch to 3070?

Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE Eagle OC GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 ATX Video Card GV-N3070EAGLE OC-8GD (rev. 2.0) (LHR) https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-3070-gv-n3070eagle-oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932451?Item=N82E16814932451&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-932-451-_-08022022

GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3070 Vision OC 8G (REV2.0) Graphics Card, 3X WINDFORCE Fans, LHR, 8GB 256-bit GDDR6, GV-N3070VISION OC-8GD REV2.0 Video Card https://a.co/d/eMwnvMl

[cyan ravine]

EDIT: nvm

[undone saddle]

Worth the 30 to 50$ with ur budget

[rich void]

I think you can fit a 60Ti or 70 in your budget pretty easily. Heck EVGA has a 60Ti that's cheaper than that 3060
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3663-KL

Personally I'd go for an Asus or EVGA GPU over gigabyte given the option

3070 option: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P5-3755-KL

[undone saddle]

Yeah drop that 3060

[frigid night]

Just cuz everyone be saying it. Get rid of the 3060 and go for the 3070.

Or just throw balls to the walls and get a 3090ti

[undone saddle]

[cyan ravine]

WAIT

[undone saddle]

Oh

[frigid night]

Rip. Can't believe yall tearin into him before checkin where he's from.

[fossil cedar]

Bout the same

[cyan ravine]

this instead, you can fit a slight upgrade. The list actually isn't bad sorry
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hDh3Nc

[undone saddle]

[cyan ravine]

tbf I only noticed that like the 4th time I read that post lol

[fossil cedar]

Nice list

[cyan ravine]

ye wherever they're going for that 3060 is actually not bad considering the market

[fossil cedar]

Although I'd highly recommend
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/HWbTwP/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12-gb-eagle-video-card-gv-r67xteagle-12gd

Instead of the 3060

[cyan ravine]

ikr

[undone saddle]

This supposed to be $3170 but costed me $4466 because of expensive shipping /taxes to here lol

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cDh3Nc

https://tenor.com/view/rage-work-pc-stressed-pissed-gif-15071896

[cyan ravine]

no not the sl galahad

[undone saddle]

Whats wrong with it lol

[cyan ravine]

are you using al fans on it

lol

[undone saddle]

Not for now

My other fans al120

[regal dust]

lol😂

[cyan ravine]

you should if you want like, 20% better airflow through the rad lol

sl120's are tiny fans, not that great in performance

[undone saddle]

Next month or with the 4090 upgrade lol

Spent alot already

[cyan ravine]

just swap them with the al's in the case already

[undone saddle]

Yeah

Good idea thanks

[regal dust]

im getting them local saves from shipping fee😂

[cyan ravine]

I had no idea it was canada my b

[regal dust]

yeah we chillin

[cyan ravine]

but you can squeeze 32gb in if you shave a bit in places

like the psu and cooler

and that's a sensible improvement

[rich void]

https://tenor.com/view/for-shame-walk-of-gif-21932910

[regal dust]

ah i think itllbe fine some of the parts u recommend isnt avail nearby my store

[cyan ravine]

ah

[undone saddle]

Im sure there are something like micro center in Canada

Much better prices

[rich void]

I would check if a phanteks amp 750 is cheaper than that EVGA unit. It tends to be one of the more affordable high quality psus

[cyan ravine]

could be

[regal dust]

ah we are quite limited we dont have all the products like microcenter and the stocks they have

[regal dust]

not avail

[rich void]

Gotcha, sorry I overlooked your location

That EVGA 3060 Ti may still be a good get, they ship to Canada

616 cad though, so more than the 3060 plus there may be an import fee...

So eh

[regal dust]

ah will most likely play just valorant

and maybe something else in the future

which 3060 will do fine for what he needs

[humble fossil]

hi

what the best cpu for rtx 3060 ?

[cyan ravine]

not the best wording for that question but ima say 12400f

[humble fossil]

2.5 Ghz not enough

[obsidian wigeon]

that's just base clock, the 12400f actually boosts up to 4ghz+

base clock means nothing cause that's just the speed the cpu will idle at if absolutely nothing is running

[humble fossil]

oh i didn’t see it

and what good mobo for i5 12th

[cyan ravine]

what's your budget and do you want a list

[humble fossil]

under 1340$

[cyan ravine]

usd?

[humble fossil]

no

[cyan ravine]

what country

[humble fossil]

why 🧐

[cyan ravine]

so I can use a website to help make a list so there's less explaining and more "Here you go"

[humble fossil]

ii can use newegg and amazon us

Middle East

[cyan ravine]

because otherwise "good" again becomes an even worse worded question, and depending on where you're from, a "good" mobo can vary incredibly by sales

ok so SAR ok?

[humble fossil]

yes

no problem i can buy from amazon us and newegg easy

[cyan ravine]

you get big shipping hits going from us locations to the middle east

so it's helpful to know

[humble fossil]

yes

so what is good for i5

[cyan ravine]

at your budget? probably 6600 XT

[humble fossil]

not gpu

[cyan ravine]

faster than a 3060 so this'll be good

[humble fossil]

motherboard

[cyan ravine]

oh mobo? Still looking

[humble fossil]

rtx is better with better features for stream, dlss and more

[cyan ravine]

you'll be way over budget with a 3060

[humble fossil]

take your time

I prefer asus with wifi

btw

[undone saddle]

Get ready to pay extra for everything like i did lol

[humble fossil]

Amazon shipping is expensive

[undone saddle]

Maybe i could have saved some money shipping everything to US address then sent all here by world ship site

But I shipped directly to saudi arabia

[cyan ravine]

I can't really shrink this anymore, $35 over budget
https://sa.pcpartpicker.com/list/LZDZXy

[humble fossil]

what pc you have

[undone saddle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cDh3Nc

[cyan ravine]

if I shrink further you lose wifi, the cooler (PC gets loud) or gpu takes a hit

can also do 32gb

[humble fossil]

thanks no need to transfer to sar

[cyan ravine]

i do

because the list will look much cheaper without it

[obsidian wigeon]

tbf

[cyan ravine]

meaning it won't make sense

[obsidian wigeon]

stock cooler can do okay

if it really needs to be cut off

[cyan ravine]

can

[obsidian wigeon]

louder yes

[cyan ravine]

but then you may as well go 32gb

[obsidian wigeon]

but it does the job

[cyan ravine]

I think going 2% over budget worth it tho here

[obsidian wigeon]

i do agree with that

[humble fossil]

brb

[cyan ravine]

hm

actually no nvm it's not got the same deal as the msi

[humble fossil]

I got more confused. intel or amd

[obsidian wigeon]

amd is usually actually more expensive

[undone saddle]

Looks like he need to upgrade the bios to support the cpu too

[cyan ravine]

no ignore that

[obsidian wigeon]

^

[cyan ravine]

on the 12th gen boards you don't

[obsidian wigeon]

pcpp always has false positive

on mobos

[cyan ravine]

but on this amd list you do (200 sar less)
https://sa.pcpartpicker.com/list/7rCdGL

I would say for what's saved it's kinda worth but also you'll need to find a way to bios update it

that might end up costing like, 200 sar lolol

[undone saddle]

How do u even update bios if not supported and wont boot to bios

[cyan ravine]

what you gain though is 16gb more ram and another 512gb of ssd as a trade off for a slight gaming fps performance hit

[cyan ravine]

you insert an older cpu, bios update it, insert the new one

[humble fossil]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tN4MMb

[cyan ravine]

nooooo

all of that is a no

you won't get that for that price either due to shipping

[humble fossil]

how much can the shipping price be?

[cyan ravine]

when I was looking at newegg it was 157 sar each item

fabled would know more

[undone saddle]

In the pcpicker it showed the system cost 3200$

It costed me 4466$ total with shipping and taxes

[obsidian wigeon]

those prices in the list are shipping included

[humble fossil]

i know friend in us

[cyan ravine]

that doesn't make it better lol

[undone saddle]

Also 3060 is 1716 SR in saudi amazon

With shipping and all

[cyan ravine]

that's a better 3060 price that could fit in the amd list

[humble fossil]

why

[cyan ravine]

still have to pay for shipping

shipping personally in my experience costs more than shipping direct from a store

[humble fossil]

I will see

thx

[cyan ravine]

https://sa.pcpartpicker.com/list/fMQP8r

[undone saddle]

Make account here
https://secure2.ws1.com/login

Ship everything to that US address they give you. Once all arrive ship all to where you are

Shipping might cost around 100$ to 150$

You better buy the case from your place though because shipping it expensive

[humble fossil]

But some dealers are unreliable

[undone saddle]

What dealers?

[humble fossil]

in amazon sa

[undone saddle]

Yesh use US amazon

[humble fossil]

sellers

[undone saddle]

Ship all to that site i gave you

[undone saddle]

Here.... use newegg or amazon US

@cyan ravine how much would all weigh from your experience without case

Like 22 pound/ 10kg?

[humble fossil]

Stackry or postshiper Cheaper

[cyan ravine]

yeah I was gonna guess maybe 10?

it depends tho on the parts

[undone saddle]

Lets say 10 i will calculate the shipping cost

[cyan ravine]

i'd say 8-10

[undone saddle]

Guess around that

Since most free shipping to US only have to pay that

[humble fossil]

230$ and 170$ good for 22 pounds

[undone saddle]

Yup

[humble fossil]

Problem sloved

[undone saddle]

Good luck

[frigid night]

Man I swear my pc is like 30lbs min

The sucker makes me feel like I got my money's worth everytime I pick it up.

[undone saddle]

With the case for sure

[half iron]

What should it get for this cpu I can't decide which motherboard

[boreal notch]

does anyone have pc build for under 3k?

[forest briar]

i think almost all of us

[boreal notch]

do you have a parts list?

[forest briar]

you can find the hundreds of them in this channel from the last week that are all under $3,000 :p

[humble fossil]

you too :)

[undone saddle]

This but 100 over 3k... it shouldn't matter

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/#compatibility_notes

U can change nvme and drop ram to 32gb if you want less than 3k

[boreal notch]

nothing is showing up for me

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NDcxxs

[half iron]

Can some plz help me decide

[mossy venture]

the b660a wifi is fine

[boreal notch]

will this work with a rx 6900 xt?

[mossy venture]

yes

[boreal notch]

do you have a good link for one?

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CLWBD3/asrock-radeon-rx-6900-xt-16-gb-phantom-gaming-d-oc-video-card-rx6900xt-pgd-16go

[drowsy zodiac]

found this on Facebook think it’s legit?

[mossy venture]

Even if it is legit, that isn't worth it

6500xt is gross

[drowsy zodiac]

not worth it?

[mossy venture]

6500xt on pcie 4.0 is similar to a 1650 super

[drowsy zodiac]

gotchu

lol

[mossy venture]

On pcie 3.0 its similar to a 1650

[drowsy zodiac]

ok i’ll stick to the 6600

there’s a 1070ti for 300

is that any good?

[mossy venture]

Bit worse than a 6600, but not much

[drowsy zodiac]

anything to look for when buying used gpu

the lady looks old selling it

[mossy venture]

Not a clue

[potent portal]

It depends on where you're looking, if Facebook make sure there's no physical damage and there's evidence of it working (gpuz screenshot maybe) and only deal in person. If you let them ship it you'll never get it. Normal rules for in person meets apply, like bring a friend.

[drowsy zodiac]

okok fs should i pull the trigger and get the 1070ti or nah?

300$ cad

there’s also just a 1070 for 180$

[empty pollen]

bring a friend and let someone knows where are you heading in advance... too many terror movies these days to be that naive

[drowsy zodiac]

honestly not to worried i live in a small town crime here is pretty much unheard of lol

everyone knows each other some way

[mossy venture]

1070 is the better deal

[drowsy zodiac]

what’s the compare too?

[empty pollen]

in #graphics-cards we have pinned the comparison table

easier to check there

[drowsy zodiac]

zotac gtx 1070 mini 8GB

180$

if you look at the top the bars are kinda bent?

[weary galleon]

pretty sure that's how they're supposed to be

[mossy venture]

Between 1660s and 2060 iirc

[weary galleon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903768190717411339/981666325866885180/unknown.png

[drowsy zodiac]

i checked it out

[hexed stirrup]

Payed 170 for z690 gaming edge and 40 for vengeance rgb just waiting on a PSU 😔

[full atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z9QdGL this is my current build and hopefully I’m getting a 2060 strix card soon

[mossy venture]

How much is that 2060 going to cost?

[full atlas]

$100

[mossy venture]

Nice

[earnest olive]

$100 for a 2060

banger deal

[mossy venture]

^

[fossil cedar]

Sweet

[full atlas]

Thanks, hopefully I actually get it lol

[willow quest]

where

[mossy venture]

Read like 5 messages above that

[icy crescent]

I just picked up the black version of this case. How was it to build in?

[undone saddle]

Never knew 6950XT almost as good as 3090ti with half the price and 200w less

[frank stirrup]

wait till you find out the 6950xt is the same thing as a 6900xt but overclocked

0 other changes

[undone saddle]

[frigid night]

Yea pato says it can be oced even further by a good amount.

[frank scaffold]

Just got my 12600k system up and running. Is there a way to change the temperature reading to Fahrenheit in the BIOS?

Gigabyte B660 board

[cyan ravine]

I've honestly never looked for that

[mossy venture]

Why would you want to

[cyan ravine]

accept your fate and join the metric system

[frank scaffold]

@mossy venture because I'm familiar with Fahrenheit over Celsius.....

[mossy venture]

So am I, but celsius just makes a lot more sense when talking about pcs

[cyan ravine]

welcome to the pc world, where everyone (Even Americans) use celsius

[full atlas]

It was honestly really easy

[frigid night]

Same here, but I've come to realize 2 things.

1. Everyone in the PC world uses Celsius when talking about PC temps.

2. It's easier to use Celsius when talking about PC temp in the PC world because.. Everyone in the PC world uses Celsius when talking about PC temps.

It's a bit confusing at first, but you'll find soon enough by continuing to use it, that it just makes more sense to use Celsius.

[earnest olive]

would like to add

3. it's not like you're going to physically feel your cpu heat on your skin, a scale of 0-100 representing good-bad just makes more sense than freaking out because "omg it's 170 degrees but it's only 80 degrees outside my PC must be melting"

[strong raft]

It is funny indeed. Part of the makes sense thing could be: it's a decent 75F in my room and cpu hits a decent 75C.

[potent portal]

Only the memory, the core is the same

[fossil cedar]

Celsius is standard in pcs even in places that use freedom units

[fossil cedar]

Except it's a higher binned core* XTXH iirc

[potent portal]

Yes it's the same core as any xtxh 6900

With better binned memory

[earnest olive]

desolder your 6900xt vram and solder on faster gddr6

ez

[cyan ravine]

no point if can't use the driver to make the faster speed

[fossil cedar]

Nono desolder 3090 ti vram

[earnest olive]

imagine having radeon and not vbios modding

[cyan ravine]

I still haven't got to that yet

spent the last few days cable managing

[earnest olive]

I ran my 5700xt stable above the limit without desoldering anything lol

it was just a golden sample

[cyan ravine]

but see this is why ocf is so special

[earnest olive]

maxed out the vram slider and it was still stable so I was like

[cyan ravine]

best pcb and also cheap af

[earnest olive]

okay guess I'm increasing the slider

increased the limit from 1900 to 2000

found the card's actual limit at 1936

got some lovely artifacts

[cyan ravine]

I've had a couple artifacts at fast timing 1900 on the 6600 so far, very minor tho, but enough for me to know I'm prolly not gonna see a lot more

on the other hand it definitely looks like it can do 180W if I'm allowed to peg the power that high

just need to get around to it eventually lol

[earnest olive]

I had modded timings for mining so idk how that compares to fast timings but probably faster

had it running cl20 instead of cl24? at 1930

don't remember the rest

[cyan ravine]

you can do manual timings on bios mod? that'll be fun

[earnest olive]

yes

it's impractical for anything but mining/similar compute workloads though

for gaming you just want bandwidth

[fossil cedar]

Welll

Pretty sure rawr got his 570 down to cl12

And he had a top 50? 570

[earnest olive]

I think my 5700xt was top 3 air cooled

kinda regret not testing normal timings before I sold it

maybe I could have pushed to 2000+ with normal timings

instead of 1930 tight timings

[fossil cedar]

Smh

[earnest olive]

don't worry pato

I'm gonna have a goated i3

i3-12100 time spy world record inbound

[fossil cedar]

Sheesh

[fossil cedar]

Should have gotten external clock gen board for oc

[earnest olive]

$110 including tax and shipping for pro z690-a too cheap to say no

[fossil cedar]

Smh not based?

I think that's what the cool kids say

[earnest olive]

you don't mean it bro stop capping

[jagged ember]

unbased

[cyan ravine]

fr fr

[fossil cedar]

True can't be not based towards you

[undone saddle]

80$ to assemble pc is decent price?

[rich void]

It seems pretty cheap to me

Are you assembling or having a PC assembled?

[earnest olive]

if they assemble it competently, then yes

[undone saddle]

Having it assembled i didnt want to mess something up lol

[undone saddle]

Cool thanks

Had to call couple places to find one that allowed me to be there lol

[rich void]

Yeah 80 seems like a good price

[south snow]

What cpu and mobo rec. for 6800?

Was thinkin r5 5600

[fossil cedar]

Country?

[mossy venture]

If US, 12400f and b660 mag bazooka

[fossil cedar]

Well

[south snow]

Im in US

[fossil cedar]

5600 has been 150 lately

[mossy venture]

12400f is 150 rn

[fossil cedar]

Oh nice

[mossy venture]

Ye, on sale on newegg

[south snow]

Niceee

[fossil cedar]

You can pair 90$ board with 5600 but yeah in that case I'd go 12400f and then that allows for a 13700 upgrade in the future or something if they wish

[south snow]

I aint used to socketing intel but should be fun

Tyvm

[mossy venture]

It's easier than amd

[south snow]

😂

Amd was my first build

[frigid night]

I know not the greatest, but this took a ridiculous amount of time. I think it turned out pretty good still though.

[fiery sable]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/szNgrD
What do y’all think about this being a budget build

[fossil cedar]

Wayyy better than I'd do lol

[mossy venture]

No

Not at those prices

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L9rYRv

Can change gpu to 6600 if you need it to be cheaper

[frigid night]

Let's just hope it's all connected right xD. It took me entirely to long to figure out all the cables that came with the lian li fans. And at one point I thought I lost the aio cables, only to realize it comes with the same cables as the fans lol

[south snow]

My first build was 500$ for a rx580, r5 1600af, 2TB hdd, and 16gb ram in an old coolmaster case

Like 4 years ago

Or 3

[frigid night]

I.. don't even know if I can consider my build my first build anymore. It's evolved so much.

[cyan ravine]

Maybe if you called it your building

[south snow]

Im still using the same build but i flipped the hdd for a 2TB ssd and changed the mobo

Ive built like two others for friends

[frigid night]

The only thing thats there from when I first ordered parts is MOBO/PSU/CPU.

And I first built this.. 5 months ago.

I've swapped fans 3 times. Case once. GPU 4 times.

[south snow]

Right, i also got ventilation when i upgraded… my first build only had the gpu and cpu fans

[frigid night]

AIO once

[south snow]

Now i have a cooling tower and like 5 fans

[frigid night]

Nice. I had 13 fans until today. Now I'm down to 10. Got rid of push/pull on the rad.

[south snow]

💀

I didnt know you could fit that many

[frigid night]

I gotta paste my cpu and mount the cooler still, but I'm taking a quick little break.

Speaking of. I should prob find my mx4. I don't really trust this runnyish no brand stuff that came with the Galahad.

[south snow]

First time i removed a cpu cooler i thought it would break

Same with mobo since they bend and make noise when plugging in power cables and such

Whats a good 500-600W modular PSU

[cyan ravine]

Tuf bronze

550w

Always cheap always cheerful

[south snow]

Fun

[mossy venture]

Gt

650

[south snow]

Ty

[drowsy zodiac]

my psu came in today

[south snow]

Couldnt find a tuf 550w bronze modular

[drowsy zodiac]

i got the CX650F

[cyan ravine]

Oh my b it's not modular

[fossil cedar]

Very noice

[fossil cedar]

Lol mood

[earnest olive]

LOL my o11 is crying bro

i have so many cables back there i gave up on trying to make it look nice

[fossil cedar]

The superior way

Also 5000d extra cable mushing room

[earnest olive]

i really dont know if its possible to cable manage my build in the back

theres too many cables

[fossil cedar]

Mine is very rough managing

More just shove kek

[earnest olive]

mine is almost zero

i just tied some related fan cables together

[fossil cedar]

I also have my p12s daisy chained on the 1 pwm connector soo i have that dragging across the back lol

[earnest olive]

lol

all the pretty stuff in the front comes at a cost in the back

so many cables

[fossil cedar]

Mine looks pretty similar tbh except all black so not as obvious

[earnest olive]

I think I have 2-3 times the cable mass of an average PC build

[fossil cedar]

Extensions and like 10 rgb fans?

[earnest olive]

12 argb fans that need splitters for both pwm and argb, argb water pump, argb gpu bracket, strimers that both contribute cable mass themselves and need cables to the controller for lighting

3 dedicated gpu power cables for the 3x8 3090

i also have to route the power and hdmi for my internal monitor through the back

it adds up fast lol

[spark cape]

need ram

got a 3060 12gb oc i510400k

2tb hard drive

getting 1tb gold ssd now

what ram goes with it

[earnest olive]

i5-10400k...?

i5-10400 or i5-10600k

[fossil cedar]

10400f?

I assume you mean sk hynix p31?

[mossy venture]

Cable management in my build later this year is going to look like Medusas hair

[earnest olive]

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08QV1V17R

this one should be good enough

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B091FM9QZT paying an extra $5 for 3600 isn't a bad idea either

[mossy venture]

My only requirement for cables is that the build functions

[earnest olive]

i think there are just so many cables in my build that it's not even worth trying to make it look good in the back

as long as it looks good in the front

[mossy venture]

Idc about looks

[earnest olive]

i care very much about looks... in the front

[frigid night]

Like a mullet. Business in the front, party in the back.

[drowsy zodiac]

the back looking pretty nice too lol

[mossy venture]

Imo it's just me who sees the pc, I prefer functionality over looks, as long as the lack of cable management doesn't interfere with functionality

I'll def make an effort, I've got zip ties

But stuff will just go where it's outta the way

[earnest olive]

i value looks of the pc a lot as long as it's not eating into budget that could be allocated into performance

but if you can afford both looks and performance then why not just full send it

[mossy venture]

Understandable

[earnest olive]

i had a customer that had a low budget but insisted it "look like a gaming pc"

so i told them

[fossil cedar]

Well only if not b460, h410, h510

[earnest olive]

you can have rgb and tempered glass

or you can have a graphics card

[mossy venture]

Mhm

[earnest olive]

they chose rgb and tempered glass and intel integrated graphics

👍

[drowsy zodiac]

oh lord

[mossy venture]

Budget, performance, and looks, you can only have two

[jagged ember]

wtf

[drowsy zodiac]

lol

[jagged ember]

he wanted looks over actual performance?

[drowsy zodiac]

the ultimate gaming pc

[earnest olive]

the front looks a lot better i hope

[earnest olive]

yup... i3-10100 with uhd 630

[jagged ember]

was it actually for gaming or for work

[mossy venture]

Or what about those "gaming" pcs with all the rgb, and a 710

[drowsy zodiac]

that is beautiful

[fossil cedar]

The ultimate gaming pc has 0 rgb so

[drowsy zodiac]

it was a joke lol

[fossil cedar]

And 0 only glass would be side panel

[stoic island]

Ultimate gaming PC involves an ungodly amount of ln2

[drowsy zodiac]

listen integrated graphics are crisp

[jagged ember]

lots of shop towels

[fossil cedar]

Well I'm talking about realistic one

[stoic island]

Roboclocker

[fossil cedar]

Lol

[jagged ember]

is pato invalidating ln2 gaming pc

how dare you

[stoic island]

:p

[fossil cedar]

Not at all look at my pc

[stoic island]

Hire a personal forks to keep it under ln2 while you game

[fossil cedar]

Stonks

[frigid night]

Cmon Lian Li, you had one job...

[jagged ember]

nope

[frigid night]

What is that?

[spark cape]

so team group ram for 52.99 the best ? @earnest olive

do i get 16 or 32?

i don’t plan on streaming or nothing

so 16?

[frigid night]

16 is enough for gaming, but I'd personally get 32gb. I hit 12gb usage daily and I just game/discord/surf the webz.

[cyan ravine]

IL NAIL

[fossil cedar]

Clearly an ln2 pot in my pc

[frigid night]

yeah ok

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

Lian Li be putting in some work. I happened to get a FB messenger call in the middle, so that might've made my score drop a bit.

[cyan ravine]

Wait

IT NAIT

[fossil cedar]

Oh you're on Galahad now right? How does it compare on 12th gen?

[frigid night]

It seems the same tbh

[fossil cedar]

Cuz I've heard the lf2 has sometimes had contact issues on 12th gen

Ah okay

[frigid night]

yeah I mean, I had pretty much the same temps at same ambient when I did this with the LF2 a while back.

[fossil cedar]

Same ish clocks/score?

[runic spruce]

Nice, was that stock or an oc?

Btw u can set systems priority on cb helps with the score

[frigid night]

Let me see if I saved any of my other scores with LF2, but I got a messenger call right in the middle so that might have affected it.

[frigid night]

This is with the LF2.

[cyan ravine]

That seems right. You should get a contact frame if you really want better

[frigid night]

both benches are with 5.2ghz all pcore and 4ghz all ecore

[fossil cedar]

Yeah the messanger call could well be the 200pts

[cyan ravine]

Or just run to run variance in general

[frigid night]

ime with my cpu the variance was only a few points

[runic spruce]

U get an extra like 300 points from system priority if u didn’t do it

[fossil cedar]

I mean max of 86c and stock fan curve might not even be 100% fan at that temp

[frigid night]

but I also have all my stuff running. I just did a quick bench to see temps tbh

[cyan ravine]

Oh debloat your windows for cinebench

[frigid night]

I know

I've been up for 21 hours. I did not really care to do that

I just wanted to see temps

[cyan ravine]

Fair enough lol

Me too tbh

[frigid night]

I've spent a total of 5 maybe 6 hours putting my pc back togethere lol

[cyan ravine]

23 hours rn

[frigid night]

just wanted to make sure it all looks kosher.

ugh. my single arctic fan has brighter white than the rest of my Lian Li fans lol

[runic spruce]

Did u oc the ring bus yet?

[frigid night]

it looks so wierdddd

[runic spruce]

Remove the artic fan

[frigid night]

no

[frigid night]

die

😄

[runic spruce]

Overclocking the bus can get u a couple more points

[frigid night]

it's on it's own jrgb so I'm just gonna lower brightness

hm

[fossil cedar]

Bus clock oc is a pain in the ass

[frigid night]

yeah I messed with it a bit, but kept crashing so I haven't touched it since.

[fossil cedar]

Well you need to lower ram freq and stuff too

[runic spruce]

Try putting it 5ghz below core clock

[leaden mauve]

now run ycruncher

[frigid night]

I have Galahad on now.

[frigid night]

bus clock or ring clock?

[runic spruce]

Aren’t they both the same thing

Oh nvm

Ring clock

[leaden mauve]

ycruncher is a benchmark

[frigid night]

I know

[leaden mauve]

then why did you respond with the name of your aio

im confused

[frigid night]

well if I put ring clock 5ghz below core clock, then it'd be -200mhz..

[frigid night]

because you responded to my bench that states that it was with LF2

[cyan ravine]

[frigid night]

so my arctic fan... doesn't want to change from white lol

[runic spruce]

For the uncore clock?

[frigid night]

it changes color for a fraction of a second, then back to white

[frigid night]

bruh whta?

k ring clock is at 3.6ghz.

[runic spruce]

Different name for ring bus

[frigid night]

bus clock is at 100mhz

[runic spruce]

I don’t mean the bus

[frigid night]

otherwise the only other thing I see with uncore is a ratio of 36x

[runic spruce]

Meant ring my bad

[runic spruce]

Try 4.4 or 44

[frigid night]

I did

[leaden mauve]

yea a lot of bios's use uncore, ring, and cache interchangably, or mesh in place of ring if the chip has a mesh topology cache

[frigid night]

I even tried 4.

[leaden mauve]

or fclk if it's amd or whatever

[runic spruce]

Was it not stable?

[leaden mauve]

what's an amd cpu

[frigid night]

no insta crash

I haven't messed with it beyond that. and I won't be for a bit.

I'm about to go to bed.

[runic spruce]

Night

[frigid night]

just trying to figure out why my 1 fan won't change color from white

it's on it's own jrainbow header.

[runic spruce]

Unplug fans rgb

Simple solution

Or remove it

[frigid night]

well, I want it to be white. but I want to change it's brightness. but it's only responding for a fraction of a second then pops back to bright white lol

actually it's all my fans except on my aio

I'm dumb.

I forgot I set up hardware sync on those 2 headers.

working fine now

[frigid night]

I ordered this 2 days ago.

CPU "Hodler"

I was skeptical, but it's the one that Mushy ordered at the same time.

[leaden mauve]

hodler

[cyan ravine]

Hodler

[drowsy zodiac]

the great hodler ‼️

[untold vessel]

How do motherboard generations work?

I noted the 500 series supported 10 and 11

does this mean that the 600 series will do 12 and 13?

[jagged ember]

that's not how it works

[untold vessel]

How does it work

[jagged ember]

any motherboard will work with any windows version

motherboard versions only support different chipsets, among other things

[untold vessel]

I'm talking about intel chips

[jagged ember]

like 7th to 8th gen

[earnest olive]

CPU is just a new crypto

i'm hodling CPU i think it's gonna go up soon

[jagged ember]

same bro

but basically mobo only has limits on the hardware that can be installed on it

if it was software locked, microsoft probably wouldn't allow you to install linux or hackintosh your devices

[untold vessel]

How have past generations of motherboards matched up to intel chipsets

Was the 400 series of mobos for 8 and 9 gen

[jagged ember]

uhh

I'm not the one to ask about this, sorry

[earnest olive]

400 was for 10th gen and 11th gen

[jagged ember]

cause i'd really just google it and tell you

[earnest olive]

however

[untold vessel]

but so was 500, yes?

[earnest olive]

only z490 supported 11th gen out of the 400 series

h410 and b460 did not support 11th gen

all 500 series chipsets supported all 10th and 11th gen cpus

[untold vessel]

How generally do mobo gens work

[stoic island]

There's no rules to how it really works

[earnest olive]

however, if you put 10th gen cpu in 500 series board, you lose 1 m.2 slot

[stoic island]

It's too wacky

[jagged ember]

the 'rules' are loose and wild

[stoic island]

Like LGA1151v1 and LGA1151v2

[earnest olive]

it's usually 1 mobo gen per cpu gen

[jagged ember]

lmao

[earnest olive]

but one mobo gen supports 2 cpu gens

[stoic island]

AMD breaks that with am4

[jagged ember]

amd allowed support for like 3 generations of cpus

[stoic island]

But previously weird

[earnest olive]

well he was asking about intel specifically

[mossy venture]

Wait what

[jagged ember]

oh, yeah that's fair

[untold vessel]

I think I'm starting to get it

[earnest olive]

try it on pcpp lol

[mossy venture]

I could've sworn I've seen 11400 on a b460

[jagged ember]

but still, rules loose

[earnest olive]

try it

[mossy venture]

Prolly just tripping

[untold vessel]

So generally

[mossy venture]

Really weird though

[untold vessel]

Mobos support 2 cpu gens

[earnest olive]

yes

you can put 9900K on Z370 or Z390

[untold vessel]

And sometimes

[mossy venture]

That's super weird

[earnest olive]

you can put 10900K on Z490 or Z590

you can put 10900K or 11900K on Z490

[untold vessel]

hold on what about like, the oldest i5-2600

[earnest olive]

you can put 12900K or 13900K on Z690

[untold vessel]

what mobo was that

[stoic island]

You can make 6-9th gen work with z390 though iirc

It's just wack

[earnest olive]

i7-2600 and i7-3770 could both slot into P67 mobos

[untold vessel]

In this case should I wait until 14th gen to upgrade my mobo

[earnest olive]

you have a z690 already?

[untold vessel]

w h a t is a p67 mobo

[stoic island]

Probably wait until then to be sure

[earnest olive]

P67 is a chipset

[untold vessel]

No I have a 400 series on a 11400f iirc

[earnest olive]

overclocking chipsets started using the letter Z with Z77

[untold vessel]

but i've only had the pc since march 2022

is the general rule of thumb to have pcs last for 8 years

[earnest olive]

no

[stoic island]

All subjective

[earnest olive]

there is no rule of thumb for that lol

[untold vessel]

What is the general rule

[earnest olive]

it depends on your needs and your wallet

i keep a pc for like 6 months max

[untold vessel]

Hmmmmm I see

[stoic island]

Every other guy does another thing

[untold vessel]

bro?

[stoic island]

Bleach builds PCs for fun

[earnest olive]

i have an addiction to new hardware

i'm about to change my r7 5800x for an i3-12100 lol

and then that i3-12100 to an i7-13700K maybe

[stoic island]

Some people do every year, some people do every other year, some 3 years, some 4 years, etc

[untold vessel]

what do you think 14th gen intel supports

[stoic island]

Can't know for sure

[untold vessel]

14th gen will* support

[stoic island]

Maybe Intel will support more than 2 chips per platform to combat AMD fanboys

[untold vessel]

or rather, how many times in the past have mobo gens supported three gens of cpus?

[stoic island]

Pcie 5.0 and ddr5 are both fresh enough for Intel to be able to keep the same socket imo

[untold vessel]

because so far I've only done enough research to see that the only instance of a mobo gen 'kind of" supporting three gens was the outlier of the z400 series doing intel 11

[stoic island]

Z490 only did 10th and 11th...?

Need z390 for 9th

[untold vessel]

wait hold on didn't b400 do intel 9?

[stoic island]

According to Intel, only 10th gen lol
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/201841/intel-b460-chipset/compatible.html

Not even 11th gen

[untold vessel]

does that mean that b400 ONLY did 10?

[stoic island]

Although I thought it did 11th gen with a bios update

[untold vessel]

not even 9-10 or 10-11?

[stoic island]

Thought it did, but ig Intel says no

[untold vessel]

Sheesh

We need to standardize the mobo gens

or is there more to it

[stoic island]

No we don't need another standard

[untold vessel]

do all mobo manufactures generally agree to only include new features in certain gens of mobos

[stoic island]

Wat

If you're talking stuff like pcie 5.0 that's on Intel not the Mobo manufacturers

Depends on chipset not the mobo made for the chipset

[untold vessel]

There's really only a couple of cpu manufactures so they can have a general standard

but how do mobo manufactures decide when to go up a gen

[stoic island]

Intel makes the chipsets

[untold vessel]

intel and amd generally do it every 1-3 years

[stoic island]

Intel makes the sockets

[untold vessel]

OOOOOHHH I SEE

So whenever INTEL decides to make a new chipset, MOBO manufactures follow suit?

[stoic island]

They just tell the aib partners to make a board for that socket and chipset

[regal dust]

why is my monitor stuck in 1024 x 768

[quaint granite]

just got my 6800xt!

[jagged ember]

I mean

if they didn't intel would just make chips and no one would be able to use them

[earnest olive]

H55, H57, P55, Q57 <> 1st gen core
X58 <> 1st gen core extreme, xeon W35xx
H61, B65, P67, Q67, Z68, B75, Z75, Q77, Z77 <> 2nd and 3rd gen core, xeon e3 v2
X79 <> 3rd and 4th gen core extreme, xeon e5 v2
H81, B85, H87, Q87, Z87, H97, Z97 <> 4th gen core, xeon e3 v3
X99 <> 5th gen and 6th gen core extreme, xeon e5 v3, xeon e5 v4
H110, B150, H170, Z170, B250, H270, Z270 <> 6th gen and 7th gen core, xeon e3 support cut from this generation of consumer boards onward (relegated to C series chipsets)
H310, B360, B365, H370, Q370, Z370, Z390 <> 8th gen and 9th gen core
H410, B460, Q470 <> 10th gen only
H470, Z490, H510, B560, H570, Q570, Z590 <> 10th gen and 11th gen core
H610, B660, H670, Q670 <> 12th gen core, 13th unconfirmed but likely
Z690 <> 12th and 13th gen core

wow, that was exhausting to type out

[jagged ember]

jesus

[earnest olive]

i left out C and W series chipsets cause you're probably not gonna buy those

anyways, have fun with that @untold vessel

exhaustive list minus C and W

[high yew]

can i possibly send a build in here and get some suggestions/remake the pcpp list from the experts in here on a build for my buddy? wants to be around the $1350 mark before taxes as were CAD. $1500 total after taxes.

He wants the PC mainly for gaming, wants to put most of the money into a good cpu and gpu

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/j9JgrD

[earnest olive]

does he already have a motherboard?

[high yew]

he doesn't. everything that isn't listed is what i'm stuck on

[earnest olive]

is that really the cheapest for an arctic lga1700 mounting kit?

[high yew]

he likes the cpu and gpu, was debating a 3060 12gb but decided to just knock down to a 2060 bc of prices. PSU was recommended by Falcie, and SSD i know for a fact are good so we'll keep those two for sure

[earnest olive]

if it's that expensive, you might as well go ryzen

[high yew]

dead serious. could probably go email the arctic team and show proof of having one of their coolers and they'll send you a free one but i don't know how long it'd take

[earnest olive]

psu seems a bit overkill?

yeah, just go ryzen 5 5600 then

not seeing any good cheaper coolers that are lga1700 compatible out of the box

[high yew]

g, x, or none?

[earnest olive]

none

[high yew]

x just means integrated graphics correct? would be the k of intel?

[earnest olive]

no

G means integrated graphics

[high yew]

whats the x mean then?

[earnest olive]

X is just slightly higher clocked

[high yew]

ahh i see

can use stock amd cooler then no?

[earnest olive]

you can if the budget is that tight

still wouldn't recommend

[high yew]

it's not THAT tight, i feel he'd rather not but if it's gotta happen it's gotta hapen

anything before $1350 cad for sure though

[earnest olive]

well, i can fit a 3070 into this budget

[high yew]

what abt a 3060ti?

[earnest olive]

i mean sure but if the 3070 is in budget why not

[high yew]

always have been told it's either 3060ti or 3080. 3070's are kinda poopy

but i mean if it can go in there true stories why not

[earnest olive]

lol, says who?

let's see their 3060ti bench against my 3070

[quaint granite]

3070ti are nice

[high yew]

one of my friends who's a tech guy, but some of the stuff he's said is questionable so i'm 50/50 on believing him or not

if you can slap a 3070 in there then why not yeah for sure

[quaint granite]

599.99 rn

[high yew]

cad

[earnest olive]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/W9rRwc

there you go

$1359.57 isn't too far off is it

[leaden mauve]

x79 and x99 best platforms

💪

[high yew]

thats perfect man thank you. any way that mobo comes in atx rather than micro atx?

[earnest olive]

well, the build as configured doesn't have a transparent panel so it doesn't matter unless you need more expansion slots i guess

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2PXJpH $1382.61 if you want a transparent panel and ATX mobo

[novel ore]

Hi. i just bought this nvme https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09QX6SL2Y?ref=ppx_pt2_dt_b_prod_image
but when i boot up my pc it shows in the bios but not in windows. can some please help me.
and i have the asus rog crosshair viii x570 hero motherboard

[cyan ravine]

Probably have to set it up as a new storage volume

[novel ore]

how do i do that

[cyan ravine]

Go to start

Then type

Create and format disk partitions

Should be the first result

Scroll down until you find in the lower half of the window a grey tile that says * Unallocated space *

Right-click on it

New volume

[cyan ravine]

Yes initialise it I forgot that step

[cyan ravine]

Then this

[novel ore]

which one MBR or GPT

[cyan ravine]

Pick GPT

[novel ore]

thanks dude

[cyan ravine]

Np

[novel ore]

its all fixed

[mossy venture]

any edits to this list? white build for a friend, they want nvidia (I explained to them there's not much of a diff, but they won't hear me out on it.) https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2C4YRv

they also like the look of the case

[regal dust]

same lol with nvidia

[regal dust]

not sure with the budget but maybe a better mb full atx prefer maybe reduce to 1tb and get a full atx mb since its easier to upgrade a storage than a storage

[cyan ravine]

Not really no, would maybe pick steel legend b660m for $5 less (also rgb if they want it).
Also I know it's overspending but, a white strix psu for a little bit more gives white braided cables if they have any plans for that sort of thing

SP Zenith rgb's in 4x8 too if that adds any aesthetic value

But value wise no not really, if they want everything white lol

[mossy venture]

we figured it out, they said they wanted to spend more

here's the finished product https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jzddGL

[cyan ravine]

Optix with a 3080?

[mossy venture]

oh wait

im stupid

[twilit quarry]

ight so im getting the lian li o11d mini in white and im also getting 7 lian li uni fans and a lian li galahad 360 uni fan but do not know if i should get the fans and cooler in white or black so i need opinions. heres the full build if your wondering>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X3t9wc

[mossy venture]

do you plan to overclock the cpu

[twilit quarry]

maybe a bit after awhile of having it but prolly not a lot

[mossy venture]

then i would get a 12700f and b660a wifi

and either ak620 or liquid freezer ii 280

ssd, p41 or p31

psu, g6 850. better unit and cheaper

gpu, gaming z trio 3080 12gb. ventus 3x will get very hot and very loud, it's a bad model

[twilit quarry]

i already got the gpu and psu

[mossy venture]

that's a fat rip

the gm is overpriced and not great

if you can return them, i would

otherwise i guess roll with it

i would do the other changes still though

[twilit quarry]

ye dang i heard the gm was good but i did see a few reviews abt the gpu and the fans

i dont think i can return them so ill just have to go with it and hope the fans under the gpu will help bring cool air in it ig

[cyan ravine]

If you're getting the galahad get the cheap version with the non-unifans. The SL120 version especially is not as good at moving air and won't be as good as other aios like the LF2

The order of best for Galahad goes ST120 (non unifan) >> AL120>SL120

[mossy venture]

it's not exactly bad, just bad at $160

g6 is one of the best psus around and is $105

[mossy venture]

well that's not the issue with the ventus

it has a crappy cooler design

the fans aren't the issue

[twilit quarry]

damn well oh well ig

[drowsy zodiac]

had to change some budget things for the build so does anyone know a good wifi mobo for 11th gen (CAD)

[cyan ravine]

Eh why 11th gen

[mossy venture]

get a 12100f over any 11th gen cpu if youre buying new

[cyan ravine]

What happened

[drowsy zodiac]

prices lol

pay ain’t gonna cut it

[cyan ravine]

Can it wait another week lol

Literally 12400f is a goat

[drowsy zodiac]

bi weekly n my work is stupid lol

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YxnmDq

wait ignore that

canada

[drowsy zodiac]

the i3 12100f

[mossy venture]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/YxnmDq

[twilit quarry]

i was thinking of going with the liquid freezer but not really a fan of the pump style but might end up going with it. any good recommendations for fans though that are expensive and still got rgb

[mossy venture]

p12 argb

[drowsy zodiac]

that will work

@cyan ravine approve?

[mossy venture]

12100f is similar to the 11400f and cheaper

a good bit cheaper

[cyan ravine]

I think 12100f over 11th gen

But also I think wait 2 more weeks and get 12400f

[mossy venture]

only reason you should get 11400f is if youre buying used

or any 10th/11th gen cpu for the matter

[drowsy zodiac]

i could do that yeah i guess it’s not a rush

[mossy venture]

alr im out

[drowsy zodiac]

thanks btw

[twilit quarry]

so wait i should get the liquid freezer II 360 a-rgb and some of arctics p12 a-rgbs instead of the lian li stuff

[cyan ravine]

Absolutely

[twilit quarry]

alright

[drowsy zodiac]

for the deepcool gammax should i use the thermal paste that comes with it for get some corsair thermal paste? @cyan ravine

[cyan ravine]

Just use what it has

[drowsy zodiac]

okok

thanks g

[cyan ravine]

Hell that extra you'd spend on corsair paste would orobably be enough for 12400f lol

[drowsy zodiac]

it’s like 10$

but yeah ima just save for the 12400f

[twilit quarry]

isnt 12700f not unlocked though so i cant overclock

[mossy venture]

Yes, but it will still perform better than an oced 12600k, and be cheaper than a 12600k+z690

[twilit quarry]

im a little confused but ok

and is this ram good or do u recommend something better https://pcpartpicker.com/product/khmFf7/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmw32gx4m2z3600c18

[mossy venture]

Ok so

To oc a 12600k

You need a z690

But a 12700f with a b660 will be cheaper or similarly priced

And perform better than that 12600k on that z690

Corsair doesn't make great ram

If you need it to be rgb, I would get a g.skill 3200c16 kit

[cyan ravine]

Or just teamgroup or something cheap

E.g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7RYcf/team-t-force-delta-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-tf3d432g3600hc18jdc01

[twilit quarry]

is one of these good https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl16-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzrc

[cyan ravine]

Don't get that with a 12700f, it has a low chance of running gear 1

Which means you may end up in gear 2 and have slower ram than anything else you could've bought for the price

[twilit quarry]

i have 12700k in my build list

thats why i was confused with what the other guy was saying

[mossy venture]

Oh

I'm intelligent

[cyan ravine]

[mossy venture]

That is sarcasm, to be clear

[twilit quarry]

lmao yeah i got that

[twilit quarry]

so should i still not get one of these

[cyan ravine]

No

Not with 12700f

[mossy venture]

Its not really worth the aroubd $100 extra over 12700f and b660 imo

[cyan ravine]

Just get the team group

[twilit quarry]

im getting 12700k

[mossy venture]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx

[cyan ravine]

Why do you want a 12700k

?

[twilit quarry]

alr but i was thinking of getting 3600 speed

bcuz its unlocked and seems good

[cyan ravine]

This is cheaper @mossy venture and also not terrible software to run the rgb

If you're thinking anything 3600 is good and you want OC then you're likely not gonna use the OC abilities properly

You should swap to a 12700F and B660, it's basically the same thing

Then use that extra money for a better uograde elsewhere

Like the gpu

[twilit quarry]

i already have the gpu so i cant switch now

[cyan ravine]

Swap the ventus for a 6900XT OCF with that difference and enjoy like 10% more fps

You can take things back and return

Since you're only ankle deep rn it would be a good idea

[twilit quarry]

im confused on how the higher speed 3600 would be worse than 3200 speed

[cyan ravine]

Ram is a confusing beast

Simply put because XMP does only like 5-10% of the job of setting a ram stick up, you've got all these other 'timings' that the motherboard needs to set up to work with the ram

[twilit quarry]

and i dont plan on overclocking anything soon but im hoping to keep this thing for a few years or something because ive had my other one for 2 now and it was great and it wasnt great specs so hoping to have this for 3-4 and dont know if i will end up overclocking

[cyan ravine]

So you end up getting these automatic timings that mean that 3600 and 3200 XMP's are mostly the same performance

Unless this was on AMD

In which FCLK likes higher frequency regardless so 3600 is a plus

[twilit quarry]

yeah im still making sure intel is the right move or not seeing how long i want this rig to last

[cyan ravine]

Don't invest in it especially if you don't know you will use it. Save it for next time you upgrade

12th gen is good. It's worth it

[twilit quarry]

alright cool

so for the ram i should get this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx instead of this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/khmFf7/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmw32gx4m2z3600c18

[cyan ravine]

Neither

[twilit quarry]

cuz ngl i thing the teamforce ram is ugly

[cyan ravine]

Then these
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kGkWGX/geil-orion-rgb-amd-edition-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-gaosg432gb3200c16bdc

Or these https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7MVmP6/oloy-blade-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-nd4u1636181drkde

[twilit quarry]

idk

so just to conclude for these ram or for all it wouldnt be worth it to get 3600 like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzrc and just to get 3200 speed like this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dHjJ7P/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzrx

but either way would it be better then this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/khmFf7/corsair-vengeance-rgb-pro-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmw32gx4m2z3600c18

[runic spruce]

@pliant dagger did u ever fix the ram problem?

[pliant dagger]

Thats the ram i have above and its not a ram issue

[runic spruce]

Oh did u fix it?

[pliant dagger]

No it still doesnt show display

[runic spruce]

Did u ever trouble shoot it

Like resetting cmos and reseating the ram

[pliant dagger]

I reseated the ram again and no display the cmos i believe is under my gpu i think

[runic spruce]

Try removing the new ram sticks then try posting just to make sure it works

While the pc is unplugged

[pliant dagger]

They light up i believe they are in right

I did it when it was unplugged

Or well off

[runic spruce]

If it worked before with the 2 old ram sticks then removing the 2 newer sticks should likely post

It s troubleshooting

[pliant dagger]

I did that and it still didnt post