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isn’t IPC instructions per clock? it basically measures how much your CPU can do and how fast from what I understand, could be wrong tho.
It depends, what are you planning on doing w the build?
Pure Gaming and emulation..
Alright cool and what’s your overall budget? Maybe I can put something that makes sense together for you
9900k better for single core things
3900x better for multi core
9900k is 8c/16t, 3900x is 12c/24t
if youre gaming and emulating games just go with whatevers cheaper, they can both handle it with flying colors
you’ll probably find more value in the 3900x considering the 9900k doesn’t come w a stock cooler, sure, the 3900x’s cooler isn’t anything crazy, but it’s nice to have as an option so you don’t need to drop money on another cooler right away. but on the flip side won’t you be paying more for an X570 board?
^
for emulating tho, depends on what you are emulating, but the 3900x will prob do better
compare the cost of a motherboard cooler and processor for the 9900k to the cost of the processor and motherboard and processor for the 3900x
i can emulate ps3 on my 8700 and 1070
and i think the bottleneck is the 1070
im really curious how it would run with a better gpu but i cant do that right now lol
i say i can emulate ps3 but really i get lag spikes sometimes

Emulating PS3 on my Radeon VII and 3700X isn't too bad, only problem is a lot of my game have poor compatability with the PS3 emulator
^
But really I have a PS3 on the next shelf and a capture card, soooo emulating isn't REALLY needed in my case
😂
Kinda fun to play the games on the console and still be able to TAB out to my other windows
If I do mobile emulating on PC is it still mobile gaming or PC gaming?
What does bottle neck mean?
its like pairing a 2080ti with a celeron
best of the best gpu, worst of the worst cpu
the cpu cant keep up with the gpu
When component x stops component y from performing to its best due to performance of component x being too slow
And when monitors say like 16:3 what’s all those numbers
: is the divide symbol in some countries
so if it says 16:3
it means 16/3
I'm smart
👌
Wa
Anyone know a brand that makes decent pre built gaming pcs? I've heard horror stories about Amazon and best buys pcs
Are you trying to stay away from the big-box guys like origin, razer and alienware?
@full wing
As long as the parts are good and I know it was set up competently I don't care.
I've heard of ppl buying brands and all fans set to intake, gpu not plugged in, etc
Looking to avoid
Are you currently shopping for a pc?
Yea
What kind of budget are you on, if you don't mind my asking
Lemme see what I can find
You the man 🤗
Honestly I'd recommend MSI or CyberpowerPC, from what I've seen they don't screw you over
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this will prob sate your curiosity
try watching all 3 parts
I'll check it out. Thanks
Anyone here plays Golf It? or Ben and Ed Blood Party Looking for a group I finally got a Gaming PC
@full wing are you getting a new pc or something?
Yeah. I was thinking of putting it together myself but I don't have the confidence. I think I'd rather pay the markup to know it was done well
I mean I build computer's I could build you one for better performance then a major brand
or just build it yourself
this is probably pretty good for 1300 dollar budget btw @full wing
Nice. I'll definitely give it a look over
however if I would build it and you had a tight budget of 1300 I'd have to like dock it cuz Shipping
Reason: Bad word usage
Hello friends I'm opting for an rtx 2080 and 9900k, will it "rtx" if so than what will be the expected frames? Or do i need to oc..
I'm only going for 1080p gaming..
So what fps?
depends what game
B5 offcourse
hello my i have some help please
@ancient fable , yes what kind of help?
so i am going to reset my pc but i want to make sure im going to do it correctly
resetting to erase everything or resetting to maintain your files?
u can reset and maintain your personal files and u can also erase and delete everything?
may i ask the reason y, coz maybe there cud be a better solution to it without loosing everything?
my computer is getting slower and i think that it would help my computer with loading times and games
slowing cud be from too much apps and programs installed to outdated softwares. The storage cud be almost full
is the storage full?
300gb i think its alot. thats enough. in the file explorer, as long as the disk storage is in colour blue not red, its fine. what about the programs that start when the systems start?
none just steam and discord
yes i do
check on the windows settings app 4 background running programs
its best to switch all of them off. turn off the "let apps run in the background" setting.
so does that just make it to were they are not used unless i click on them
as long as u have opened an app yourself, it will not run in the background. this will mostly save memory and power.
oooo sweet
those apps u minimize yourself will run normally.
try it & see if the system speed will improve then u will tell me your feedback
thank you i added you i will make sure to tell you
u r welcome. i will be waiting for your feedback.
anyone plays siege?
me
Who plays Rust?
Stellaris, and Civ for me, love some 4X
I want rust but I don’t have it
YOOOO @surreal apex @static orbit I got a 1080 ti MSI for 339 usd I’m lucky
\o/
Wooooo
Are you proud of me dad box 😂?
@oblique depot nice
Who plays Mechwarrior Online?
I just hit 200 hours in it
I'm doing like 2 300+ sessions a day
Alrighty everyone, what's your most played game? I've personally got 1500 hours in flight simulator and 600 in Insurgency
Ring of Elysium I have over 600hrs that's my most played game
payday 2
Who plays skate 3 in 2019
meeee
Cool, On pc or console?
i have played both @clever beacon
xbox one and PC (emulating ps3)
im gonna go to bed, cya later
krunker
Contract Wars.
So what's the deal
With airline food in warthunder
I mean is all they ever serve lead
Thank you ladies and gentlemen
I'll be here tomorrow
so im curious, has anyone run into steam games being capped at 77 fps even when vsync is turned off and frames are uncapped?
@ me if you have any theories as to what could be happening
i have plenty capable hardware with an R5 2600, 16 gb ram at 3000 and a evga 1080 FTW, but it was also happening with my dual core, 8 gb ram and 960
Settings maybe?
ive checked both in game and steam and cant find anything to be setting it back
i mean i only have a 60hz monitor but plan to upgrade to at least 144hz soon and dont want to have the same issue
can someone link me a used 1060 3gb like 100 or less
probably just get a RX480 for $90 unless you need NVENC or CUDA
Rx480 is best purchase I've ever made, I got mine right after the mining market crashed
I have a question... How many lanes does a single GPU card take up? I have not been able to find a straight answer on this online at all
x16
That's not the speed?
if your CPU supports 16 PCIe lanes, it will support one x16 card
and if you occupy more PCIe slots, they will start to compete for lanes
Ok cool. I wasn't too sure on that
I think I have a couple left open if I remember right
you could also use bifurcation to make it run at 2 8x slots
but for the most part yeah 16x
@winter raft i got a MSI 1060 3GB GT OC
interesting
😎
What's a good "alternative to steam" website for you know keys lmao
G2A
They give steam keys
And the games on there are much cheaper than on steam
Rn rdr2 is going for 44 on G2A
And 60 on steam
hax
Trying to get rust for me and a friend but 35 a piece rn isnt in the budget lol
Go on G2A
34.60
Hold up I’ll link one
Already looked
g2a gets their codes from hackers but if you have to do, do it
That's my site to go to but seeing if there were any others out there
Idk
G2A is the one I always go to
Trustable imo
Rust is expensive though I will say
Yeah I've bought a good bit from there
Yeah it really is lol
I'll just have to buy it next pay day lol
Reason: Bad word usage
Lmao
Be careful you'll get booted. I've said " poop" before by mistake. The other word for it
Ahh
Oops
Anyways I was saying that I’m mad at rdr2 launch problems
Waiting for rockstar to fix their stupid launcher
I haven't bought it yet sadly
I've watched the entire playthrough but never bought it
I have spent 24 minutes just trying to launch the game. It hasn’t even booted yet
oopdity poop
My friend finally got a PC so now I have 1 friend to play with lmao
That's why I was asking
nice
ok
Hey there! just bought an 9900k and oc it to 4.9ghz... what gpu suits the best 2080 or 2080s alsoI'm going to oc the gpu to the extreme..
if you can afford it, then the 2080S
But i heard it has less headroom
2080s has higher memory
2080 has 14000mhz 2080s has 15500 mhz
if theyre the same price get the 2080s
@clever beacon
@pearl trellis this is the site i buy my games from they are very cheap https://www.instant-gaming.com/en/search/?q=
that just looks sketchy, ngl.
That's great but is it true that the 2080 overclocks better than s
@full wing
Is your aim to get a card to suit your hobby of overclocking/modding/tweaking or because you want the best value card that can be safely, yet effectively OC'd for more "best real world, non warranty voiding oc" config performance/$$?
I should type less, TL;DR
Do you like overclocking itself? Or do you just want fast, safe OC'd performance
Nah that was perfectly said.
lol.
OP = Hey there! just bought an 9900k and oc it to 4.9ghz... what gpu suits the best 2080 or 2080s alsoI'm going to oc the gpu to the extreme..
Now idk why I wrote any of that, because I'd just say get the ftw + (ultra/non -ultra should be identically binned)
You can't help yourself. it's ok.
waterblock?
is butter or sugar better on a 2080 ti?
xc , but especially sc cards are good to block, they're reference pcb, ftw3's especially in a niche like 2080(s is the same block compatibility) will be harder to find
Eh, just a shop towell and some glue on heat sinks + TIM pads for the VRMs / memory - the mobo is what needs the vaseline when you go cold
Not quite sure if this fits here but I have a question about steam, if I were to get a completely new computer and I put my old drives into that computer along with the new drives, could I transfer the files and skip the downloads? Or would I have to re-download every game? My internet is really bad so I don't want to wait 3738828 years to play my games
@azure bolt might know
yes
you wont need to redownload them
you just show it where the steam folders are located
ah, i didnt know if they made directories elsewhere
steam > settings > downloads > STEAM LIBRARY FOLDERS
add your old folder (wherever it may be)
then bam, good to go.
Thanks
I do that all the time
hey guys any thoughts on glorious model o
I plan on keeping my steam drives for many, many systems :)
Best channel in the category right here
idunno man you'd probably make more money in #500103186103664640
you ever find a weapon or item that just fits your style so well that nothing seems to compare?
playing destiny 2, i found this auto rifle called Misfit that just... it's perfect. it fires fast, has a ton of reserve ammo and a huge magazine, and reloads whenever i get a melee kill. i can charge in head-first and just hose down whole armies with it
Anyone got any good cheap game recommendations? Or recommendations on the Xbox gamepass for PC?
Halo reach is on pc for 10 bucks
I retired from AoE2 a bit over a month ago and the only games Ive really found to play since then were Sea of Thieves, that absolutely balling Zoo Tycoon game not gonna lie and just revisiting old games I own like doom 2016 and things.
Was never a halo fan sadly.
ah understandable
My brother was all in halo.
The problem is Im an RTS player, and nobody makes RTS games these days.
thats fair do you do puzzle?
Occasionally. I heard the turing test is on the gamepass now
Someone at work was talking about it.
never heard of it but sounds like people like it
The Talos Principle I mean.
I have 2 recommendations Hacknet and Starcraft
I gave up with SC2 a long time ago. It just felt like Aoe2 with much less of everything and pretty much played itself for you.
Still anything beats halo wars.
Hacknet sounds good, those kinds of games remind me of Uplink: Hacker Elite. One of the best OG games from Activision
we robots have ascended to buying games I see
yeah hacknet had a really satisfying gameplay and story
80% off this week for £1.43, Ill pick it up. Thanks.
and if you haven't already I would highly recommend the portal series. but no problem!
Already played the hell out of 1 and 2 and only got so far in mel stories before thinking it was just meh.
I would also "consider" adventure. I dont know what it is about Sea of thieves but its nothing like anything I normally enjoy playing
oh yeah sea of thieves is a good one
I kind of wanted to get the DBZ games but things like xenoverse and fighter Z were just nothing like the classics to me
Nothing will really beat budokai tenkaichi 3 on the PS2.
Its just funny to see it both reference Hackers (the film) and uplink (the OG game). I wonder what else Im missing
Was a great suggestion though.
Finished Hacknet, that was fun
dm me if you need a org
what?
windows can't update and I've tried everything from every forum I've come across. from cmd prompts to safe mode, any advice besides clean install?
Windows update assistant?
Can anyone help me im desperate at this point
@autumn sand Im glad we call all agree that the series peaked at budokai tenkaichi 3
@main tendon what's up?
I can't even update windows through a new ISO. It keeps failing
even with A/V disabled
:rip:
do you know how to make a save file?
@halcyon stirrup I'm a hardcore DBZ fan and the games after that just dont really interest me at all
@vernal temple ....the windows 10 version 1909 updates are few in number & they dont always update daily. But todays updates are many
try again today
My Minecraft keeps having a black screen even though i tried everything cries
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@full wing done
Hello I was hoping for some help
I just bought a pair of A 50s astro headset
And a creative sound Card I'm wondering if they will work together
I'm a bit new to this kind of thing
What hardware should be sufficient to run a 144hz monitor AND an HTC vive
Songs:
Chill Bill - Rob Stone
Come Down - Anderson Paak
Does ram affect gaming performance?
Through roughly 100 different factors yes
AMD or Intel?
What speeds?
What capacities?
What timings?
Single, dual, quad, or penta-channel?
What games?
What cooling solution? (If any)
SO-DIMM or DIMM?
If it didn't affect gaming performance we'd have a lot less kinds of ram ;)
@verbal jetty I've never seen RAM ever bottleneck a game. Get more if you like leaving apps open such as web browser for easy alt-tabbing.
@mossy nymph I mean theres games like rust that require a lot of ram to render everything, so that could bottleneck the build if you had only say 8gb ram
That feeling when you log into an MMO and they are deep into political discussions in world chat... Just gonna NOPE the hell out of there.

I'm not from the US and I definitely don't know how the GPU market is like(right prices and stores), but I'm planning to buy one soon and have a question: at 250 USD should I get a 1660s, 1660 or RX 5500 XT ?
or any other suggestions?
1660s would be the fastest at that price level
might be able to find an RX 5700 (non-XT) at that price level if there's a good sale somewhere. then if you're crafty you can put the XT bios on it and get $400-500 level performance
@lethal jasper Blackbeard? Disrespect.
You gotta be a toxic zofia main like me
Jkjk pretty nice, but thats bronze
Is the nvidia 1060 considered mid range?
Is 1000 Fps good to have on Minecraft?
^ Thats very subjective to settings
I have 15 Chunck Updates, Fast Graphics and all the other to Max quality.
Guys , question xbox one or ps4 controller for pc games?
ps4
anyone selling a cheepish gameing rig
@fleet halo Xbox controllers are widely excepted as the best between the two even by some PS4 gamers
most PS4 players I’ve talked to agree that Xbox’s controllers are better
Yeah they are, and I am a PS4 player
Then good thing after like 1 hour of thinking i got myself a white xbox one controller
Anyone get stutter in Fallen Order?
So Space Engineers can utilize 100% of your GPU and your GPU will auto close the game telling you that it is over heating... when it is at 49c...
Lol
any thoughts on glorious model o
what?
oh the model of GPU I have?
Here is my Rig
I played two games to test if my GPU was messing up, GTFO on Max Settings and 7 Days to Die (Poorly optimized I should add)
The both worked fine, no problems, shudders, anything.
Let me test FFXIV...
Max Settings + Shaders.
(I have it hard capped at 60 FPS)
Honestly I hate Mac
I am on Windows. xD
Well than
Oh yeah @honest bane, what is your current build? 😮
-ryzen 5 2400
-2x8 ddr4
-RX 570
-2tb Seagate hdd
-240 Hynix gold ssd
-EVGA 600 BR
-forgot what motherboard I got :p
Oh an Auros B450
yeah came out last week\
what RX series? i thought RX was AMD?
I am the proud owner of an HP Pavilion laptop with a cracked screen and barely enough memory to run steam
True
I'm glad my laptop hasn't broke in anyway because I have 0 backup
I would be too
I wish I still had an HP laptop.
Best laptop I had (for its time) was a Compaq laptop. Back when it was its own branding.
My school makes me buy a god damn Mac. Literally every teacher hates them but they say we will miss out on the benefits of the “1 on 1 program”
Probably cheaped out on app development. Got a kid desperate to do it for cheap because he very much made the wrong life choice.
big mac is delicious
Anybody trying to play some rainbow 6 siege?
@winter raft Ordered the Model 0 Minus (lighter version) Ill tell you what I think in comparison to the air58's
Anyone know why when i updated my amd software my gpu would act up and now my game wont load unless i alt tab and go back into the game. It will only last like 3 seconds before stopping again
It randomly happends
Help
XD bruh. dis someone make a videogame where you mine a crypto
No but this game is fun but I drop down to 10 to 20 fps and is on roblox, if eny one evens plays it
I had to roll back because it messed my Vii up. Wait until they fix AMD new drivers.
Roblox is the last game you should be having FPS trouble with.
Or, close.
And, no shame man, if you enjoy a game, enjoy it.
I have a old laptop by asus and I have no idea what is so wrong with it it might be the cpu becasue it is like use 100% on task manager or memory...
but im geting a new one soon on pc part picker
it is
is a laptop so i dont know
go to control pannel
no go to task mamager
and go to gpu
it should tell u what it is
i think it is in the cpu
o inter grated?
yea
I cant
screenshot?
windows key then prt screen
ya its prettey old
i suggist an external gpu
im building a new one soon
o nice
yea
intel
what lga socket
?
im new so i dont know what that is
yea i watch them
and pcpartpicker
yup
see you
What is the best headset?
Quick question if anyone can help with this. I was thinking of buying a cpu. But I dont kn now which 1 is better between the Intel i9 or AMD Ryzen 9? Its for gsming
AMD 3700x and spend the rest of the money on a better GPU
would you pay 250$ for a b350 m gaming pro mother board, Ryzen 5 1500x, apevia case wd black hdd 1tb
thank u that reminded me of a beat saber level i need to download
Dewit
hey guys
im a lil desperate
i play on a mac and i don't know if i should consider my self
to be a pc gamer
you are
yay
Ew
well do you play games on it
He's uhh... Not in the server anymore.
you don't just throw your caballs at people, learn some decency
got vibe checked by a space ball
any of yus play War Thunder?
Dude I wanna die I got scammed
you said that like 20 times yesterday.
we all say that like 20 times a day
more like 24

hey i need quick advise
what tank should i research?
Sturer Emil, Tiger E, Panther D, Ostwind, or Jagdpanzer IV
Yes.
Hahaha yes
All three +2 war machines
I used to PS4 remote play in class on the Mac book air my gramm ma ma got for me :) much sadness it got destroyed in a car accident :/
Which was definitely my fault
Didn't notice this before on PS3, but this guy looks like Clark Kent
Lol I tried to assault nipton with the default gear and a varmint rifle
It didn't go well
And I forgot to quick save
I'm back in goodsprings
e
I haven't played FNV in such a long time, is nipton the place with NCR and great khans? @silver willow
Yes I believe so
There are NCR tents
Yo the right of the bridge
Coming from the spawn point for the game
And enemies to the left
If you Ally with the NCR
I did that the first time I played
I decided to do a more morally ambiguous playthrough this time though
I need to stop being such a goody goody
It's boring, honestly
And fallout let's you kill friendly NPCs
So
I'm merciful thug rep with goodsprings atm
Totally worth playing again
Imo
I got it during that sale
A bit ago
On steam
Idk what it is rn
There might be some Christmasness coming if it isn't currently happening
I ought to find out
I still need to figure out gifts for some friends
huh
Also what I was thinking, I believe, was boulder city
where you have to go in and negotiate/fight the great khans
I think nipton was you fight against caesar's legion
i have an rx 580 and a i7 3770 and im looking to upgrade what should i upgrade 1st
Gpu
Unless you're like a video editor or smth CPU upgrade wont be more important
Hello guys
Depends on the game, Stellaris loves a nice CPU upgrade in its current state... The devs bogged down the game engine too much recently
Many games where the game engine is bogged down with excessive logic and inefficiencies a better CPU can bandaid some of the painfully slow parts of the game, but it's an extremely niche case for upgrading
But those benifit more from single core/quad core imrovements. Not core count improvements
I’m trying to get into pc gaming, what’s a good laptop to get with in the 1000-1200 dollar range?
Is there a reason you want a laptop?
You'll get more performance if you get a desktop
Plus it's easier to upgrade in the future
And more options
Hey am looking for a good monitor and pc to start pc gaming
Please help me with your recommendations
what budget
I'd save up and get a decent monitor. They're things that you upgrade the least and last the longest for a build
At least 144hz and 1440p
Does anyone have any ideas to get an cheap easy 80fps Minecraft computer??
Any laptop with integrated graphics
Minecraft is extremely easy for a computer to run
Depending on what render/quality/shaders you want, you might need something a bit more expensive. My laptop with a i5-8250 and an MX 150 runs a lite shader at fancy and 15 chunks render
Not sure what the desktop GPU equivalent would be but minecraft isn’t usually too demanding
A ryzen iGPU can prov do it
So this is a long shot but has any of you had problems with high cpu usage on modern warfare? I have an i5-6600k and it’s just not getting it done even though it says it’s in recommended specs.
That's actually the recommended spec to run at medium settings. Are you using medium or higher than that?
@stiff ether
I’m using any and all settings. I’ve done a lot to try and fix this, it’s been like this since launch, and recent updates have made it worse. @latent ore I am using lowest of the low settings atm
Gtx 1060 Nvidia @latent ore
3GB or 6 GB?
Are you getting 60 FPS or falling short? honestly, I'd expect the CPU to be 90-100% for a brand new AAA title like that.
The GPU also.
well gpu doesnt show anything on task manager, just 0. Yes im getting 60fps
im upgrading my cpu soon
Anyone else randomly look at there computer and are like "Dang that's my life in a box"
yeah when mine just fails benchmarks :v
I dont play Cod Modern Warfare and i got a 30 min double xp code from a mountain dew. First come, first serve
1740NN091192 at mountaindew.com/callofduty
If the code doesnt work right away, try o's instead of zeroes
Anyone play Mass Effect Andromeda?
I wanted to know if anyone else had slow downs when walking the hallway of the Tempest between the bridge and the Avp/striketeam/buy-sell command center area?
@dense slate id prefer a laptop in the interest of space. I don’t have room for a desktop in my room
@full wing you can make small form factor PCs, like ITX builds, builds that are barely twice the size of a game cube. They are a lot more powerful than a laptop usually and far more upgradeable
But if you really want a laptop I won't press the suggestion further :)
@foggy bear slowdown depends on your hardware and settings
@olive shale I7-8700k, 32Gb ram, 2060 super. Settings: ultra 1080, 144 hz with resolution scaling @1.6
Texture stutters on world, particularly on Kadara. Was wondering if anyone else had this issue.
I was under the impression that the game was hot garbage

And that it never got completely fixed
the stuttering on andromeda is probably because of texture loading
I love MMOs with seasonal weather
@olive shale is there a way to fix that or is that just game related?
... you know you are bored when you travel across an entire desert in a game just to get a single piece of a single resource

:( its so pretty though
anybody understand why my 1660 ti is falling short in utilization
30-40 percent in counter strike
6% idle (which makes sense)
@rotund magnet is the frame rate capped?
no
Cause capped/max frame rates are the main reason a GPU won't run under full load
found a script to play destiny 2 solo and tbh i think it's better that way, at least for strikes
doing strikes solo is surprisingly fun
how do you Solo a Strike? I thought you needed a Fireteam for that?
Shadowsabre Andromeda is so pretty still and it's two years old at this point
it's one of those games that ages very well, you can max it out now with any mid range card from 2018 on now
he said he's using a script, aka, cheating.
How is playing single player cheating?
using scripts to alter an online game's gameplay
don't care how you see it, it's a bannable offense in just about every online game
Yes
yeah it basically disables matchmaking by tricking the network into not finding anyone to pair me with
(also i'm a she, just so you're aware)
Not for everyone but black desert is a buy to play MMO for only $4 right now
Oh ok, and Tera is a free to play MMO, and on Steam there's a game called Creativerse
@silent valve Black desert is a trap game designed to make you think it's not pay to win, until you realize you've spent 2k on it over the course of a year or two
You never needed to spend that 2K
That sounds like PC building
Plenty of the items you get from loyalty rewards and events
If you spend extra for the convenience that's on you
Like the 16 extra inventory slots currently on the log in rewards
I'm quite happy earning all my stuff the fun way rather than the short cut way
You never "need" to spend 2k on it. The issue is that it's a trap that TONS of BDO players fall into, especially if they want to compete with the top players. I would rather play a game with a 15$ monthly subscription than an MMO with any sort of cash shop.
Really, I think even cosmetic items in a cash shop on an MMO are too much. Items you get when playing a game like that should be something you earn no matter what, and having the ability to pay for an outfit, especially one that gives you an ingame effect is a ridiculous concept.
That being said, I love the game itself. The game was fantastically made and the combat system has always been my favorite MMO combat system. The mobs are good and grinding can be fun. They should have geared the game more towards end game and I think the RNG factor in the gear is a bit of a killer
In my time playing I've just passively collected gear enhancing mats in mass, enough to just about instantly TRI any gear I get, and TET would only take a bit more effort :)
I hoard everything and never even use the market
The professions are some of the most detailed and deep to explore, I LOVE the professions in BDO
That's fine, if you enjoy the game I'm not going to stop you, but that's what's stopping most people who buy the game from playing. It makes you want to buy these things, and they make TONS of money on people who spend thousands of dollars on the game. The issue is that because of this, the game is never going anywhere. It has a consistant playerbase of about 10,000-20,000 people who play the game because they enjoy it, but that's it. Because of the limitations the game set on itself with the insane RNG factors and the cash shop, people don't want to play it.
Only thing I really buy is the costumes, cause I like looking fancy.
Once I realized that BDO's purchases by other people have no actual affect on my own experience and fun I just stopped caring :)
At minimum, to be considered "competitive" (When I stopped playing), you needed to have a campsite ($50), 5 pets; preferably t3 or up (50-400$ depending on RNG), a desert Ghillie (30$?), max inventory space (80$?), max weight limit (80$?), max workers in certain towns to efficiently use workers to make money (40$?) and god knows how many artisans memories.
estimated cost - $480 usd
just because you don't spend money on the game doesn't mean that other people don't. I can't stand behind a game that leaches off it's playerbase and forces them to do that
PA makes EA look like a good company
I'm geared competively but I didn't grind mobs endlessly, I took the scenic route :D
Mostly through professions
I prefer mob wiping to get my stuff if possible
You say you're geared competitively yet you said most of your gear was tri, that was competitive 2 years ago
I said I can get new gear to TRI instantly
Fact is, I don't care about the guild PvP, my endgame is still in the professions and being a merchant :)
Like I said, to each their own. What I'm saying is that I wish I could love the game, but I can't support a company that does that to their players
I'll take it over games that directly sell power, like exclusive paid combat styles and rented outfits coughAgeOfWushucough
Is it a bit scummy? A bit. Is it perfectly playable with out it and missing none of the enjoyment, yes. And that's what I give it points for
It's the games that don't give free alternatives, loyalties, and force you to need the stuff or the game is actually unplayable that I have problems with
You say that because you haven't been caught in the money sink, but I guarantee you know quite a few people who have
It also promotes afk to the point people don't actually play the game
Guilty, I left my character at a training dummy for a week straight to get to lv 60 
Seriously, if somebody left their character fishing since the release of the game, just selling stuff once a day, they would probably be one of the richest people in the game
the person who went actively fishing every day would be far richer
But nobody is going to do that for three years

The professions are like 90% of my time in the game
Im actually close to being in the top 30 leader board for trading
Actually been #1 a few times since it's only currently active players
Some people really love that way to play
Never found an MMO with professions quite as fun or detailed
looking for a good game someone shoot me in the right direction was actually looking at black desert until i read above conversation lol
Halo: MCC
Startin' with Reach.
Then all the rest when they release.
Merry chrysler
Black desert isn't a bad game, it's less of a money trap than he makes it out to be XD
everything that helps with play you get for free and quite regularly
you only spend extra money if you are super impatient and can't wait a few days for nice things
if you got free inventory slots every few days rather than paying for them more power to you
I have mountains of unused cash shop items that I never paid for cause I just collect and hoard the free ones
like the 530% bonus EXP scrolls, those are only in the free section
they don't even have a paid version of em
most games that I've played that has a "free" section requires you to pay for VIP in order to unlock them...
can't buy pets with loyalties but there are free pets given out several times a year
nice as long as they are decent
spending extra in BDO is only for the impatient 😄
the penguins are holiday exclusive free pets
there is a kind of do-do bird that is sometimes given out as a log in bonus
even if you don't buy costumes if you put in the effort there are some nice craftable costumes
BDO may have a cash shop but it's surprisingly not as greedy as it looks
530% EXP? Sheebus
only 53 total per account
but still that's one hell of a grinding hour
they only cost 1 loyalty each and you get 100 loyalties per day lol
Dafuq
This games grind sounds so bad.
F-heeeck that
If they're dishing out +530% EXP scrolls like halloween candy, s---'s not okay.
ForgotIwasinNewegg'sServerforasecond
the grind isn't really bad, people just focus way too much on only killing things efficiently and ignore the rest of the game
I never really had a problem with heavy grind cause as someone who focuses on the professions there are many different things to do, I never burn out on just a single task
though I might have gone a bit insane with materials collection... having millions of materials to process and craft with is a bit overkill 
the 530% exp scrolls are a very limited amount, you only get 53 to use between all your characters and you aren't supposed to use them all right away, more like save them for a high level exp push
I love mob wiping in mmos.. idk why but it's just so fun to gather up a bunch of mobs and slaughter em
you can only pull 7 at a time in BDO
That sucks
but you kill things so fast that doesn't matter
if you are taking time to pull you could have killed them already, and the next 3 groups XD
all the standards, and a few interesting ones
like Sorceress is one that's not a standard MMO class, a close range black magic caster
later gets a large scythe
Sounds the WoW Warlock
Dark Knight is a black magic spell blade that uses a giant messer
later gets several other sword types and more destructive magic
eh sortof like the warlock, but not really, I mean it's basically melee magic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc03ZGGNUuo
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the berserker is also an interesting class, a giant with axes and a literal arm cannon
FFVII Remake better be worth it
coming to PC a year after it comes to PS4!
you know your bored when you are farming trees in an MMO 😄 lol
they take like 7 hours lol
Why farm trees??
cause I had the seeds, and the winter trees give a really powerful crafting resource 😄
DK is rather weak, or at least was a few months ago, even though a great concept it's not a good class, sadly
Anyone here play Mortal Online? And know the minimum build to run 2 clients at max graphics
ew LoL
hey it was one of the few free games my potato could play when I was a teen, it's got a special place in my heart
lol my potato can play WoW, though im not much into MOBAs and never really have been
WoW is good
Much better MMOs exist for cheaper or free. But hey you like what you like.
Mhm and I agree, I play an mmo called TERA, while it's free it's not the greatest but it's fun for what it is.
I've played and sampled many MMOs but nothing beats the story telling of Star Trek Online, they throw out any sort of traditional MMO questing for formatting the game into "episodes" that are long multipart things that are like you are playing through an episode of the show with an original story.
Through the power creep and lack of any sort of professions makes the endgame very dry.
Games like Archeage and Black desert have insanely deep professions that you could pretty much just do as an entire playstyle. I love playing as a seafaring merchant that ships cargo across the ocean in BDO more than playing the PVP endgame
is there pve to it?
The PVE content is different than most MMOs there are no dungeons or raids, it's all a continuous persistent world and world and field bosses spawn daily, and a few larger bosses spawn weekly. There are also bosses that spawn about once a week for players to solo in a seamless instance.
And there are sea monsters and ghost ships for us seafaring players as well as a giant weekly naval combat boss.
People say it's P2W but really you never have to spend a dime on it past the initial buy, most of the stuff you can get for free anyway, and other the purchases of other people have no effect on your ability to play or enjoy it.
as long as i dont get swarmed by lvl 50s as im playing at lvl 5 them i'll be happy
Open PVP isn't even enabled until level 50, until then is direct challenge non-lethal duels
And even then getting jumped is sooo rare unless you are in a heavily contested place for grinding EXP or Money
what happens if I do get jumped and killed? Do i loose items, exp or do i just have to go back to where i died?
Not when killed by a player
You just loose some some equipment durability and your need to reapir your gear is slightly accelerated
ah ok
Though if you are jumped when you are transporting goods as a traveling merchant they could get lost and you are in the hole for the investment in the cargo. But that is EXTREMELY rare
Sounds like fun.. transporting cargo that is
The only time I got attacked in my wagon I wasn't carrying goods like that, it was raw materials for crafting that don't disappear on death
Only time I ever lost a load of cargo is when I fell asleep at the desk and ran my wagon into the river
LMAO
lol woops
Currently I expanded my trading empire to include farming high value crops in-between batches of valuble metals
Trying to maximize my profits over time

Smart
I also recent was on the top 30 traders leader board breifly
congrats!
A little more and I'll be a permanent fixture of it XD
to me it's extremely fun
The detail and depth of the profession is what keeps me playing, it's nice to have multiple fully fleshed out ways to play in a game
The more you talk about it, makes me wish I could play it right now xD
Buy it now while it's only $4 then play it when you can, or play on a lower setting, the game optimized a LOT over the years
I have not
Ok
Hey should I use my epic games coupon on Untitled Goose Game or Outer Wilds? Thanks!
Outer Wilds would be more content so
I think they may have meant Worlds
Just wondering if I missed a game I need to look at.
But bigger world with more stuff...
Fallout 3 Or Fallout: New Vegas
Vegas
@latent ore hey techie! i need some review on my pcparts selection, if u could help me with that thru dms?
*sorry, meant to tag u in #building-and-recc-chat, dont want to tag u again there.
Yeah, working on something else. Post the PC partpicker link so we can look. 😉
Yep, I have played yet
Oh
Sorry, I have played it
outside:
inside:
i also have this hidden door system (you can kinda see the redstone work in the picture above)
Nice
and thats where i keep all my stuff
i dont trust my friends to not steal my stuff lol
Oooohoo? Minecraft screens you say?
That's why you have fake chests.. then a room of hidden chests somewhere
I love the shaders mod
Gotta' have it, makes everything so amazing.
Agreed!
Oh god gross
? what...
Kek, nothin'.
I get on to my friend for playing BD, not a fan myself.
MMOs aren't for everyone, especially one that goes the extra mile with semi-realism in how you need to transport goods and supplies everywhere to get stuff done

lol
Plays ESO
I unlocked something but my game wouldn't let me complete it
?
I don't remember, I quit playing afterwards because of the crap it said I unlocked but didn't let me do.
Shrug
I'm not a fan of the ESO business model and the further it goes the less appealing it is to start.
I don't mind paid expansions for 4X games cause it doesn't fragment the playerbase nearly as much.
I made it into the leader boards for wealth in BDO 😄
Congratulations Ryoku
Mortal Online even with all the bugs is still an incredible game
does anyone encounter a "User profile not found" in r6
Merry Christmas
i have the perfect profile picture for the ocassion.
for free
is it just like an account or what
is it like an account
check dms
Suck it RTX, my shoulder in this game have decent reflections 
:v no selling or trading stuff
Merry Xmas people!! https://www.twitch.tv/foxhound47/clip/StupidTastyBasenjiBleedPurple?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time
Merry Christmas everyone i was wondering if anyone can help me find a good pc I got some money today and I lowballed my next pay and i should have 528dollars by January 3rd and I was wondering what the best pc would be for that price
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Guys any good games u recommend?? I'm new to playing on pc and I'm interested.
Apex legends, minecraft, portal 2, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
those are some of my favorites recently
dead by daylight
Oh alright ill get back to u on that
Minecraft, and idk
Minecraft and if you are into skyblock skyblock hypixel, if not try some modded if not try vanilla lol
Destiny 2 gang rise up
Eh
I played it when it first released I pre ordered it had some fun till the Osiris expansion did plenty of the leviathan raid
Got bored again quit came back for forsaken
Quit after I beat the forsaken line
terraria, stardew Valley, the entirety of the RTS and Strategy genre that is widely missing from consoles
Outer Worlds, Factorio, Graveyard Keeper, from the depths
sooo many good PC games to play
Play boneworks best vr
@silent valve RTS is also missing from PC
🤔
Starcraft, command and conquer, Stellaris... PC is the home of RTS
Don't know what you're talking about
1.3k fps in mc -_-
New record baby :)
i dont have enough money for minecraft so i play the education edition
is this a good key borad?
i just want a under 100$ keybraod to change the colors on and have it actully be a good keybraod
I want to buy a gaming keyboard which one should I buy
Keyboards are very much personal preference. Depends on if you are looking for mechanical keyboard or not. If yes mechanical do you have a preference to key switch type?
bedwars 4v4v4v4 with a team who doesnt know how to play
not to mention i broke all the beds after ours was broken
Wen your pc no work
Idk why its not working haven't touched it in about a year come back and it doesn't turn on F
The 90's called and they are going to need you to return that PC
lol
lol
that square kensington trackball
my god
that same trackball (in a different look of course) is still highly expensive and popular
I plan on switching from PS4 to pc what Ryzen processor do you guys suggest
I’ve been looking at the 8core 3.9
I plan on spending $1,000
On building my pc

What is the "8 core 3.9" ? @full wing
Ryzen 1700x? Ryzen 2700? Ryzen 3700x?
Hold on let me look
We need the model number, just core count doesn't make it clear...
AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W 100-100000025BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16819113104?m_ver=1
I plan on putting liquid cooling on it
Okay so
Just looked over prices, I would suggest you go Ryzen 3600 with a b450 board, 16gb of 3200mhz ram, 1tb nvme ssd (Sabrent rocket or corsair mp510), a Rx5700xt, some decent 550w psu, and some decent case
Your budget would not allow a 3800x liquid cooled @full wing
Unless you compromise on the graphics card
And the main thing for gaming is the graphics card
I'm thinking 5700xt, your thoughts?
Hell, with 750 you can get a 2600
Very nice card
But get a dual fan variant
I've heard that they're prone to over heating
Yeah
But at $750, a 2600 is also within budget
And if you're upgrading from a PS4
But for a thousand, you can almost get a 3700 X
Lemme check
3700x is like 320$
Last I checked
Sooo 3600 is prob a better option
Heres a rough draft I made @steep wing @full wing
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GtyQyk
Oh wait one sec
Made a mistake with the case
Also...
Monitor?
Keyboard?
Headphones?
Because if you have all the peripherals 1000$ can go into just the pc, but if you dont have them, you'll have to invest a bit in those and less on the pc
Umm
Why a x570 board?
Also a 3600 would be better at gaming and other single threaded tasks
Other than that, it looks good
I would go straight 1tb nvme ssd because all I would assume you need is 1tb tbh
I plan on doing a 500 boot and 1tb ssd for storage
500g ssd
I want it to be an 8 core
3600 is 6 core
I want an 8 core
I have a standard pc right now using a fx8350
AMD RYZEN 7 3800X 8-Core 3.9 GHz (4.5 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 105W 100-100000025BOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16819113104?m_ver=1
This is the one I want
Wait, do you already have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and headset?
So you need those?
I have a monitor keyboard and mouse



