general-chat

[velvet summit]

im looking at thinkpads mainly for the mix of cost, repairability, and linux support
and specifically the pantherlake model because it's more recent, while being more repairable than the less repairable arrowlake

they did release pantherlake for their flagship x1 carbon but that's 3k....

(cad)

[upper rain]

understandable

linux goes hard. i'm hoping that after i change some adminstrative stuff around i can just graduate over the summer without needing any more classes... bc then i can uninstall windows and daily linux 24/7

the VM access software i have to use for my data management classes is windows only unfortunately

[velvet summit]

rip

[upper rain]

i'm sure i could get it working on linux with enough tinkering, but not worth the effort for the potential downsides of my software bricking before a big assignment

[velvet summit]

my classes doesn't have any windows only applications as far as i'm aware

i'm avoiding using linux on my desktop for now, and i'm trying to switch to linux on my laptop first to test the waters

i've been familiar with using linux for server applications for several years already but i have no clue how it's like as a desktop enviroment lmao

asides from steamos but that doesn't really count

[upper rain]

any thoughts on which distro you want to try?

[velvet summit]

probably fedora

[upper rain]

gotcha. i'm running PopOS rn (ubuntu), very easy to use

i find that unlearning windows habits is my biggest hurdle. i can figure out how to fix an issue easily enough, it's just remembering and habituating it when i've used windows for so long that is annoying

[sinful blade]

Make #linux-and-android more active pls

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pointless-sad-run-futile-gif-25822185

[velvet summit]

real

[nocturne flicker]

Gamestop closed about 500 stores in January

Only way they can afford that is if Cohen personally layout the money for the company to buy eBay

[dusk knot]

?????

[nocturne flicker]

Especially since eBay has literally 4x the market cap of Gamestop

[rancid juniper]

game stop will use all that tade-in money to buy eBay frfr

[nocturne flicker]

Wait a minute, Gamestop only has $9bil at hand right now

They can't buy crap

[rancid juniper]

they're not joking bruv

[nocturne flicker]

Guess they are gonna get Jared Kushner and the Saudis in on it too because there is no way GME can realistically buyout eBay themselves

[rancid juniper]

curious on what would happen to the GME stock if somehow it actually went through

[nocturne flicker]

Collapse

[rancid juniper]

oh

[nocturne flicker]

Because they'd be taking a ton of debt on to buy a company 4x their size

Though GME stock doesn't actually reflect reality ever

So maybe not

Wallstreetbets will prop it up

[deep parcel]

how do they even have money for this. aint no way eBay would sell for less than several many billions

[nocturne flicker]

They don't

They'd have to take loans or dilute their shares like heck to get 30+ billion

[deep parcel]

yeah it doesnt make sense..

[pliant berry]

prob just for press

[deep parcel]

probably

[nocturne flicker]

Though keep in mind this is the company that tried to issue $1.3bil in 0% interest unsecured debt to buy checks notes bitcoin

They only bought $500mil in bitcoin, but they bought it when it was roughly $97k per coin

And it is down about 20% since then

[rancid juniper]

facts

[upper rain]

they will intercept used game packages, offer a refund to the buyer, and sell it for 4x the sale price

[velvet summit]

it would have sound more realistic if it was the other way around

ebay buying gamestop

but at the same time

why

[upper rain]

if they hadn't bought at 97k i'd be on board tbh. seems to be a remarkably predictable (on a macro scale) high yield asset

if they actually knew anything about the asset they'd have waited though. it was always going to topple to around 60k

[gritty canopy]

Yall im 13 trash pc can't get a job here where i live can't do outdoor work either for other reasons does anyone have an idea how I would be able to get a new pc and be able to finally play games and record/stream tried giveaways but they always seem pointless going against countless other people

[idle nexus]

I think we've reached a new low for DDR5 https://hwbusters.com/news/asrock-introduces-hudimm-cost-focused-ddr5-memory-cuts-bandwidth-in-half/

2x8gb memory & 5800X3D & RTX3060 are coming back. What year is it?

[grand kernel]

just AI upscale your ram to 32gb 8000cl20 man

[idle nexus]

I'm running 8100c36 for daily lol

[grand kernel]

also wow i hate nvidia optimus

it doesn't work at all

[idle nexus]

I only install nvidia drivers with nvcleaninstall these days so I don't even know what that is... er wait is that the thing where it keeps switching to iGPU on laptops? I forget

[grand kernel]

yeah it's the thing that turns off the dgpu when it's not being used

[idle nexus]

lol I went to war with that back in the day with my stupid SurfaceBook thing

[grand kernel]

my laptop battery just went from 60% to 0% in 20 minutes while i was outside trying to use it for work because i couldn't get the dgpu to turn off

[idle nexus]

in hindsight, if I'd known about NVCleanInstall, I think I could've just installed the driver without optimus

[grand kernel]

60% lasts 6 hours if optimus works properly

[idle nexus]

oh damn that's like the opposite

[grand kernel]

well i need optimus

but it refuses to work

[idle nexus]

it could also be a windows issue

iirc

[grand kernel]

maybe

it used to work better than it does now

i'm suspecting something about the new nvidia app personally

[idle nexus]

you can manually force apps to run on power saving

which I think means iGPU on laptops

System>Display>Graphics

[grand kernel]

oh yeah that does a funny thing on my desktop

[idle nexus]

I disable iGPU cuz I'm convinced it helps with memory OC stability

might be snake oil tho lol

[grand kernel]

maybe

i can do 6400 1:1/2200 fclk/nitro 1-2-1 with igpu enabled

and i have a use case for the igpu

good enough for me

[idle nexus]

ya if you actually use it then I'd keep it on too

[grand kernel]

maybe disabling it will make my wifi and bluetooth more stable lol

idk

[idle nexus]

I swear 3 years later I still hate how AMD handles USB-related crap

like forced power down on hubs

might be worth a try

do you have Power Down disabled with Memory Context Restore enabled?

that combination acts strange I dunno why

[idle nexus]

GDM off too?

it's been months & I'm still salty that I couldn't get 64gb stable at 8000. It feels like my biggest memory OC fail to date

[pliant berry]

epic, beat 2 demon levels on geo dash in under an hour

[idle nexus]

oh damn

believe it or not, I actually know what geo dash is

& while I haven't played it myself, that game looks hard haha

so congrats

[pliant berry]

the recentish updates to the game were actually crazy. some of these new level designs are insane

[idle nexus]

I only know cuz my son was watching something about some dude who was like considered the best at that game & they proved he was cheating or something

apparently it's very competitive

[pliant berry]

as a long term goal i've been trying to beat this as my first highest level difficulty map

personal highest difficult that is

[pliant berry]

yeah some people get a little crazy bout it

[idle nexus]

I think it was someone named SpaceUK

[pliant berry]

that sounds familiar

[grand kernel]

yep

this is with igpu on

[idle nexus]

I can't get tighter than 1/3/1

I wonder if it's because of tRCDWR at 8 hmm

[grand kernel]

i was able to do 6400 1/2/0 before i went from 1 nvme to 3 nvmes

💀

[idle nexus]

dude it's so crappy, to use all of my NVMe slots, I have to run GPU at x8

it's like B550 all over again

[idle nexus]

m-die hates tRRD_L < 10 for some reason

damn your tRP is tight lol

2200 FCLK might run. My CPU is kinda derp tho. I would get random resets but I set PBO +200 & CO to +25 all cores

I'm so lazy on CO these days

[idle nexus]

is OCCT's latency check thing better or worse than AIDA64?

[grand kernel]

no clue

[royal crow]

Also completely ai so lord only knows if anything's accurate

🥀

[heady plinth]

You think kings were eating rotten meat because an ai slop video told you so? Anyone who could afford spices wasn't eating spoiled garbage.

[dusk knot]

????¿

[bitter ridge]

The context to that seems to have been deleted

[worn night]

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjesRkTFZqY

hell no, i will not rent a router

[snow lotus]

What am i looking at

[heady plinth]

A drive that costs more than twice what you should be paying even in the current terrible market.

[elfin mural]

you can easily find cheaper drives

but yeah, every ssd is too expensive

[wise wigeon]

Amd's overlay any good?

Don't feel like downloading MSI after burner for purely overlay reasons

But it is a solid iverlay

[elfin mural]

it works well enough

but if all you want is to watch your utilization, temps and fps including 0.1% lows

steam's overlay works

[wise wigeon]

Steam has temps?

[elfin mural]

yeah

the overlay got updated since the steam deck came out

[wise wigeon]

Crazy I didn't know this because I have a steam deck

And I tinkered with that overlay guiding me

[bitter ridge]

My experience with it is through the xbox ally x and it works just as well as the nvidia one

[wise wigeon]

I've been so used to downloading MSI after burner for years

[elfin mural]

i have stopped using msi afterburner cause it forces my laptop's dgpu to be awake all the time when i don't need it

[wise wigeon]

Yeah that's because of its monitoring

Really tanked battery life on gaming laptops

As if they needed to get worse

Huh realtek audio not plugged in

Odd

Well I restarted and it's fine?

Ohhhkay

If it ain't broke don't fix it I guess

Never seen realtek audio option specify its output before

[wise wigeon]

Ok yeah that is a solid overlay, kinda wish I had GPU watts but eh

[elfin mural]

im so done with this wifi card crashing a lot

imma just use usb tethering

[tranquil pebble]

I've never had wifi card issues ngl

[elfin mural]

i curse asus for choosing this stupid mt7921

[dense locust]

4070 or 9070 xt

And with dlss enabled

And frame gen

I think games just release their first working build nowadays

[ashen swan]

It’s a Lego game

How demanding can it be

[elfin mural]

keep in mind it's 4k tho

and maxed out as well

[dense locust]

It’s not

It’s 1440p at best

[elfin mural]

game settings get very demanding as soon as you crank it up

[dense locust]

And with frame gen

[elfin mural]

yeah, it's "4k" but upscaling is pretty much standard as much as we hate it

[dense locust]

Ok but frame gen to get 60 fps is not standard

Wtf is it using? Path tracing?

[elfin mural]

i'm not excusing that, if i made it sound like that

it's probably using ue5

if i have to guess

rt and pt isn't mentioned

graphics does look like any other ue5 game

[dense locust]

I’m still going with my theory that they went with the first working build

[elfin mural]

that wouldn't be too unrealistic considering the past few years of things that have happened to the game industry

launch a game too early, then rush out patches to fix the game a few months later

or even a year later as the bugs and glitches kept popping up

[dense locust]

Pretend it’s been optimized

Then somehow optimize it more

[elfin mural]

hey, here are patches that we have pushed out for you guys

we've optimized the game for you

why are you guys not happy?

[dense locust]

I remember reading something like
“It’s impressive how game companies undo years of hardware advancements”

[bitter ridge]

Take sys requirements charts with some grain of salt unless it's from Ubisoft

Ubisoft games perform closest to what the chart they release say

[random osprey]

@proud jackal went back to a normal-ish sized mouse (pink one) after using my fingertip mouse for so long and I feel like Bambi trying to learn how to walk 🗿

[ashen swan]

I hate the term "Mini Pc"

[velvet summit]

why?

it's just the form factor

similar to how laptops originally were called a laptop pc

or tablet pcs

there isnt really a different name for mini pcs

hell, even apple names it the mac mini

[ashen swan]

Well it's just a nitpick but I only like SFF more then mini PC for cases above 7 liters

Small form factor is how most people are treating their "mini pcs" Smaller builds that stay on your desk while claming "portability"

Mini PC's are for EX: Mac Mini or Framework desktop truly small and portable

It's just a nitpick though tbh

[velvet summit]

oh you don't like how people are calling their sff builds a minipc
yeah i can see that

when i think of minipc's i think of things like the hp prodesk minipcs

this type of form factor

[ashen swan]

Yes

It's a nitpick but I dispise it XD

[craggy shoal]

This is a micro PC actually yes these are mini PCs I guess they can be called both (I just woke up)

Pico PC

My DT 770s have a little peaking sound when listening to base-heavy things 😭

Not blown but it's a little annoying and a little worrying

[waxen saddle]

What would they fix?

[velvet summit]

the question is if it's the amp or the headphones that are distorting

(considering the headphones it might be the amp?)

[craggy shoal]

Not sure whether it matters, but it's also mainly in the right ear

[velvet summit]

might be the headphones? could still be either though

[craggy shoal]

I'm using a DAC/amp combo. I have another DAC/amp combo I could try

Kind of a downgrade in audio though I think

[craggy shoal]

Trying with a different pair of headphones. I don't think the DAC/amp combo is the issue

[sinful blade]

Dead chat

[dusk knot]

I just woke up

[proud jackal]

Why

[bitter ridge]

Fear of dropping liquid inside it ?

[grand kernel]

this guy on reddit is defending 12vhpwr but felt the need to buy a wireview

I wonder why I've never felt the need to buy a wireview

[bitter ridge]

You can see the power consumption in real time without any software tools running iirc

[grand kernel]

sure

but you don't need that when your power connector has a safety factor

[rancid juniper]

Bruh what is happening?

[pliant berry]

yeah their business model has not been working the past decade or so. they declared bankruptcy a few years ago, it was bound to happen eventually

[rancid juniper]

it gets even wilder when apparently this airliner has a PERFECT FLIGHT RECORD

no crashes

we just lost a cheap and safe option here

[pliant berry]

I'm just waiting for frontier to make their exit. honestly hate them so much more than spirit for budget airlines

[wise wigeon]

Huh that's kind of sad I didn't realize steam screenshots were local like that

Kinda figured they were uploaded like most of the other stuff

[bitter ridge]

Looks more like decor than speaker and I dig it

[brittle lynx]

which one of these 2.5" sata ssd is better? both same price.
intenso 49377 480gb
Kingspec p3-512 512gb

[bitter ridge]

The kingspec seems more likely to have more usable space

I think I have that same kingspec ssd in my 8gb gpus testing rig

[sinful blade]

I love how I instituted a bunch of anti-spam measures, and not a single one has gotten in to test it yet

[dusk knot]

Rip. Never used them

[sinful blade]

[rancid juniper]

same here but since many others did it should've stayed

[bitter ridge]

Looks like I do just avoid playing sony titles on it and it should be fine for most other games

[dusk knot]

Gas prices connected to a certain conflict and the company’s been struggling for a while

[rancid juniper]

couldn't even get through a deal

dang

[dusk knot]

Happens

Now the 17k employees…

[rancid juniper]

btw, have yall seen this?

crazy specs for a Lego game ngl

[bitter ridge]

I am yet to see what the visuals are like

Three months ago on a ps5 pro(good baseline for pc gpus)

[nocturne flicker]

How does one make lego pieces on a screen hardware intensive

[rancid juniper]

UE5 of course!

Hopefully they've done some optimization patches before release. Curious to see how'd it go on something like a GTX 1070

[dusk knot]

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can't-do-this-to-me-you-know-how-much-i-sacrificed-norman-osborn-spiderman-you-cant-do-this-to-me-gif-17962982899044373025

[sinful blade]

I have discovered that I cannot take narcotics

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/great-argument-however-your-mother-facts-breaking-bad-quandale-dingle-gif-26062299

[sinful blade]

Turns out that I am the owner of a rare issue that basically dictates they don’t work(either by digesting too fast, I don’t have the right reaction, or something else, haven’t figured it out yet, but doc confirmed it)

[royal crow]

Weird

[north crescent]

Heckin 30 fps with frame gen? That's some funni stuff they smoking to recommend (min req)

[bitter ridge]

Neverness to everness UI is primarily designed for touch screen and sucks on controller and mouse keyboard

[rancid juniper]

mouse+keeb is fine but controller SUCKS

[unreal trail]

control

[wise wigeon]

Ngl as I age I like to laze back with a controller if I can

Unless I need absolute precision

[bitter ridge]

007 first light and Forza Horizon 6 in the same month

All the good stuff releasing in my birthday month

[bitter ridge]

Are you playing with pt

[rancid juniper]

with lumen since for some reason the devs thought it was a good idea to not provide RT/PT to AMD cards, certain Nvidia cards are affected too

with optiscaler i was able to run it with RT

[bitter ridge]

The car dealership with pt enabled was one of my highlights visually

shiny reflections everywhere

[rancid juniper]

game looks stunning but it still needs some work

[bitter ridge]

Most mouse look similar but this looks a bit different

[wise wigeon]

Oh wow a pretty solidly specced pre built for the price

I mean not a fan of cyberpower but, 9800x3d,5070ti, 64gb, and a 2tb SSD for the main drive, at 2.1 that's not the worst

[grand kernel]

tbf seems fine given the hardware listed but I would've just put higher minimum hardware

or even like 720p 30 fps without frame gen would be better than 1080p 30 fps with frame gen

[wise wigeon]

I mean I was at Best buy yesterday, I saw how much they're selling 64gb of ram for now

Yeah but this is Lego batman

[grand kernel]

wait

even the highest target is 60 fps with frame gen

wtf LOL

and upscaling

nah that's a joke

[wise wigeon]

Like why does a Lego batman game need this to run

[grand kernel]

60 fps with frame gen is not playable btw!

[wise wigeon]

Yeah

Feels good awful

I'm in the opinion of framegen ain't great til it's doubling 70+ fps

[grand kernel]

depending on the game you can get away with doubling 40 ish

that should be similar latency to stable 30 fps without frame gen

which I think is what most people say is the minimum for playable

[tranquil pebble]

some company out there probably makes an audiophile mouse

[wise wigeon]

Because I was tinkering in my wilds the other day and it's weird but like the frame cap doesn't include frame gen frames like other games

Mhwilds*

So you have frame gen on, cap at 60 and it'll get capped at 120

[tranquil pebble]

AMD recommends getting a bare minimum of 60 FPS before using it, which makes sense

[wise wigeon]

I mean pretty sure both GPU giants rec that

But Nvidia loves tech demo

[tranquil pebble]

yeah I cant speak for Nvidia as much though

[wise wigeon]

So they had to get path tracing to a "playable" framerate

[grand kernel]

surely 20 fps with 6x mfg is a smooth 120 fps gaming experience

[wise wigeon]

I mean path tracing is great it looks amazing but the hardware and supporting software ain't there yet

[tranquil pebble]

massive input lag go brr

if you do that on an FPS, your aim will be absolutely wrecked

[wise wigeon]

But yeah thought that was a lil weird with mh wilds

Don't think I've every seen a fps cap not include framegen frames before

[north crescent]

It already is prolly 720p native, cuz it's 1080@30 upscaling+fGen

[tranquil pebble]

I tried frame gen with GMod once. It was so bad it was kinda funny.

[wise wigeon]

Huh

Think switch 2 will get updated dlss?

[grand kernel]

transformer model is too heavy for it apparently

[tranquil pebble]

next gen is gonna be like 480p upscaled to 4K at 30 FPS lol

[wise wigeon]

I mean it's like a weird love child of ampere and ada

[grand kernel]

makes sense its like a downclocked rtx 2050M right?

[north crescent]

iirc ye

[tranquil pebble]

its a turbo potato posing as a GPU

[grand kernel]

I know cyberpunk only recommends transformer models on 40 and 50 series

[trail nest]

@grand kernel is a full AMD build better for gaming or is a full INTEL build better for gaming? what do you prefer?

[north crescent]

Slightly lower TMs I think too

Or maybe Im tripping idk

[wise wigeon]

Intel doesn't have higher end gpus

[grand kernel]

I prefer not choosing based on brand

[sinful blade]

Choose based on performance/dollar

[wise wigeon]

Brand loyalty is meaningless

[trail nest]

intel actually has their own brand GPU's

[wise wigeon]

You missed the higher end part of my sentence

[trail nest]

you can slap an RTX in an intel build and it'll still be intel

[north crescent]

Full IBM

[wise wigeon]

You said full Intel or full amd

[grand kernel]

intel cpu + radeon gpu for gaming <$1500

$1500-$2000 consider x3d cpu + radeon

$2000+ x3d + nvidia gpu

if you really wanna put it into general brackets

if you get a 5090 remember to keep some room in the budget for a fire extinguisher

[north crescent]

Alpine or Wireview

[trail nest]

this is the most expensive intel GPU and it supports 4K

[wise wigeon]

You can't say full Intel build and just say it's ok to slap in a Nvidia card

[bitter ridge]

Yeah most gpus can output 4k

[grand kernel]

I love my intel geforce rtx 5090

supporting 4k ≠ running games at 4k

pretty sure the gt 710 supports 4k

[wise wigeon]

I'm sure the gt610 does

[trail nest]

this intel GPU can beat your rtx 5090

[grand kernel]

ok

I don't even have an rtx 5090

so yes it does

[wise wigeon]

Theo every get that 5090 model they wanted?

Ever*

[grand kernel]

astral?

[trail nest]

@grand kernel i'm still waiting for my motherboard to get here so i can start building my new rig

it's taking forever!

[grand kernel]

why are you pinging me specifically

[trail nest]

cuz you seem to know a lot about PCs

should i refund this one i bought

and get this one?

[grand kernel]

you asked this already

[trail nest]

i'm having 2nd thoughts

i'm really thinking about doing it

[grand kernel]

and got like 5 answers that were all the same

why ask again

[trail nest]

since i haven't built my pc yet

cuz i wanna see if you guys can give me more reasons to refund and get the 9060xt

hahaha

[grand kernel]

"the 9060xt is better in every possible way while also being cheaper" isn't enough of a reason for you?

do whatever you want cause idk what could possibly be added on top of that

[trail nest]

you are making me wanna do it and get a refund

orange mushroom i wanna ask you a question. is having 3 fans on a GPU better or does it matter?

my GPU only has 2 fans on it but i kinda want a 3 fan build GPU

[wise wigeon]

This dude

3 fans might matter if a card runs particularly hot but 2 fans should be fine

If you want a 3 fan card then get one but if there aren’t any issues why?

[sinful blade]

@trail nest

Getting the 9060xt would be a good idea. Refund your 7700xt and get it.
The difference in temps for three and two fan gpus are really negligible in 90% of cases. It’s up to you at that point.

[worn night]

yes it is better but if it’s a large price increase then it’s not worth it

[sinful blade]

If you’re gonna ask the same questions over and over, I’m gonna just point you to the answers we’ve given you dozens of times already.

[worn night]

Just get the 9060xt bro

[sinful blade]

It would be cheaper

[worn night]

Bruh lol

Then yes this dude should just get it already

[grand kernel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/wfqWtyz9bX

[worthy meteor]

Now this is why we need 12awg pcie 8 pins

[neat plover]

Has anyone used secretlab full length cable management tray with other desks

Tryna save myself $800

[rancid juniper]

@bitter ridge just posted a 9070 xt benchmark on NTE #links-and-selfpromotion

[trail nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SPcM1Nd4nc

tell me why the 7700 xt still pushes out more FPS than the 9060 xt chat

i'm so confused

[sinful blade]

The 7700xt has similar performance. But the 9060xt will not only be more efficient, it has better RT performance, better PT performance, fsr4, better OC, and it’s newer. More support.

[misty sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802434541124845578/1499070261985808545/image0.gif

[trail nest]

but 7700 xt still beats the 9060 xt in FPS in every youtube comparison video i've watched

[heady plinth]

You got 5 reasons that weren't that and defaulted back to that. If that's going to be your metric it's fine, they're basically the same.

[misty sparrow]

I’d get it just for 4GB extra for vram

[sinful blade]

FPS does not mean everything.

The 7700xt has less vram, is missing features that the 9060xt has.

[royal crow]

Get the 9060xt

[trail nest]

ok chat u guys forced me to do it

[sinful blade]

Good.

[trail nest]

should i get the 3 fan or the 2 fan version 9060 xt?

[royal crow]

3 fan

More fan = better

[nocturne flicker]

Aight just for that I'm gonna design a gpu cooler with three fans and one of them won't be even close to the heat sink at all

[sinful blade]

It does not matter

Whatever you think looks better

[nocturne flicker]

Gonna make the heat sink so bad that it transfers so little heat that one fan is sufficient

[trail nest]

is this one good? this is the cheapest one i found

never heard of xfx swift brand though

so i'm kinda worried it might suck

[nocturne flicker]

XFX is one of the primary Radeon AIB partners

[trail nest]

oh so it's a good brand?

[nocturne flicker]

They are generally considered the one that is good. Not outstanding, not bad

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-anime-sad-gif-27615865

[sinful blade]

As weary said, yes. It’s a good brand.

Good quality control.
Good customer service.

[trail nest]

ok i bought the 3 fan one

[sinful blade]

Love that I bought mine for $110 less

[dusk knot]

Am in Atlanta, Georgia. The first time ever I'm seeing self-driving cars in the wild

[tranquil pebble]

self-crashing cars

[velvet summit]

Technically if you've seen a Tesla, they could do that*
(*Not well)

Surprisingly Tesla went from first place last year to 3rd place this year for most driving incidents in the usa

Apparently BMW drivers are terribler than Tesla

[hardy pier]

hello ive never owned a PC nor do i know much about them whats a good starter PC? That can play cyberpunk and gta five m steadily at 120fps?

[craggy shoal]

There are no good starter PCs

It's 2026

https://tenor.com/bM8gc.gif

[heady plinth]

Five m is also extremely cpu intensive if you want high fps.

[hardy pier]

how so?

[heady plinth]

And cyberpunk same for gpu.

[worthy meteor]

If your goal is cyberpunk2077 and fivem at 120fps native, the starting point is probably ~$1500, which isn't exactly in the traditional starter PC budget price point

[grand kernel]

playing cyberpunk at 120 fps can mean anything between an rtx 2060 and an rtx 9090ti

[craggy shoal]

"Starter PC" "120fps" that's not happening lol

[hardy pier]

well money isnt a problem just something thats not really over kill for something i wont need it for

[craggy shoal]

@opaque sedge Lick my toes

[opaque sedge]

32 gigs of ram is nearly 400 and a 1tb nvme ssd costs nearly 200, gpus are priced egregiously rn even entry level models and there may be a cpu shortage inbound

[worthy meteor]

ofc it can be less, especially if you end up using dlss/fsr, but hopefully you understand how bad prices are right now

[grand kernel]

hardware that's overkill for cyberpunk currently does not exist

[opaque sedge]

How abt u lick dee-

CURSE YOU ROOMBA

[grand kernel]

so if money isn't a problem might as well go top of the line

[nocturne flicker]

You are welcome

[worthy meteor]

Then the question is what resolution are you looking for

[royal crow]

Roomba curse

[worthy meteor]

120fps for cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p requires very different hardware from 120fps for cyberpunk 2077 at 4k

[grand kernel]

path tracing has entered the chat

[opaque sedge]

120fps at 4k 💀

[worthy meteor]

shhhh doesn't exist

gotta get a mystical 6090 to do 120fps at 4k with path tracing lmao

[opaque sedge]

Path tracing looks utterly amazing

[craggy shoal]

Me: here for basically eight years
Roomba: here was born like five nano seconds ago

Mod status of me: nah-uh
Roomba: granted

(Please don't make me mod)

[worthy meteor]

idk man should give me the red name too

[opaque sedge]

Steam controller coming out on monday

[nocturne flicker]

The day I prompted Roomba to ban it shall forever be my greatest accomplishment in this server

[opaque sedge]

[craggy shoal]

Can I have some

I need like one cent

[hardy pier]

would it not just be a waste if im not gonna prioritize it to its max performance i just want something that can run those games at minimum 120fps i dont want anything overkill.

[grand kernel]

rtx 5090 does 30.6 fps at 4k with PT and no DLSS

[worthy meteor]

There is literally nothing that is overkill if your goal is 4k with path tracing in cyberpunk 2077

doesn't matter if you throw all the money in the world at it right now (for consumer hardware)

[proud jackal]

i wish i could run cp2077 well

[opaque sedge]

U can get a steam controller for one cent?!

How

Where

[craggy shoal]

bro

https://tenor.com/MYeaXewfT7.gif

[worthy meteor]

nvidia should bring back sli just to run path tracing smh

[grand kernel]

120 fps is a lot man idk what to tell you

[opaque sedge]

Shrine of controllers

[proud jackal]

are you buying

[opaque sedge]

Idk honestly

[grand kernel]

cyberpunk isn't valorant

[proud jackal]

im on that fence too

[opaque sedge]

The steam controller lacks smth i really like on my current controllers

Extra bumpers

[grand kernel]

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/gmgg2dgYyCL2zFBy5hZUeR-970-80.jpg.webp

86ms latency

[opaque sedge]

Genuinely a gamechanger

[grand kernel]

dlss balanced + 2x fg probably optimal

[worthy meteor]

honestly dlss up might be the best, textures are probably screwed up but at least the lighting will look good...

[opaque sedge]

Thats rt overdrive irrelevant imo for cards other than the 5070ti and 5080 which are absolutely terrible value rn

[grand kernel]

that's why I said

120 fps in cyberpunk can be anything from rtx 2060 to cards that don't exist yet

so be more specific

[opaque sedge]

Do u by any chance have a microcenter near you? If u do i would recommend u grab one of their powerspec prebuilts honestly

[heady plinth]

What's your idea of money not being a problem? From ~$1000 to about $2500 there are things that make sense and even up around $5000 there are still things that make sense. If you want to do 1080p medium that's quite a bit different than wanting to do 4k ultra.

[grand kernel]

also I play the game with PT on my 9070xt and it's fine enough that I'd rather keep it on than drop it

but that's at 1440p

[hardy pier]

i live in Washington nearest one is California if i remember correctly

[heady plinth]

Yeah closest one is SF.

[worthy meteor]

The main question for what kind of hardware you'll be looking at is still the target resolution

[heady plinth]

I wish they'd open a Seattle or a Portland.

[grand kernel]

1440p fsr quality + 2x frame gen usually hovers 100-120 fps

good enough for me

[worthy meteor]

honestly I don't know why they haven't gone up there to seattle

they opened one in indianapolis before seattle lol

[grand kernel]

sub 60 real fps input lag might bother me a little more if I played a different build

but for stealth pistol nbd

[opaque sedge]

PT or heck even rt looks garbage without ray reconstruction, if u want rt or pt nvidia’s pretty much the only option this gen thats fully compatible

[sinful blade]

Love you

[grand kernel]

garbage is a strong word but alright

[heady plinth]

4 in or around NYC

[sinful blade]

I really pushed for it
The server needed a fresh look

[craggy shoal]

I also don't want to be a mod

[sinful blade]

I do

[craggy shoal]

I don't have a vision and I'd probably abuse my power anyways lol

[sinful blade]

I wanna be Newegg ceo

[proud jackal]

why

[sinful blade]

Money

[grand kernel]

I'm not trying to argue that radeon does it better lol I'm just saying more than 2 cards exist where PT is subjectively worth turning on

[proud jackal]

newegg su-

[sinful blade]

Thank you, that’s all

[nocturne flicker]

I wish I knew about Microcenter when I was still going to Long Island biannually

[grand kernel]

I played with PT on my old 4080 too

[sinful blade]

I want to trade my 9060xt for a 4070

Someone who has one, gimme

[proud jackal]

buy my 4090 or 5090

[grand kernel]

also, I don't see the validity of the "PT is irrelevant" argument for someone who apparently does not have a budget

[nocturne flicker]

Could've made a detour while driving through Nassau County

[sinful blade]

Gimme your 4090
And I’ll give you my 9060

[upper rain]

not 9070?

[grand kernel]

I got 15 theocoins for you

[proud jackal]

no enough

[upper rain]

how much for 4090?

[grand kernel]

20 theocoins and I'll take you out to dinner

[opaque sedge]

Man… join the buildapcsales server and set up notifs for prebuilt deals and if people are up arrowing it more than down arrow then its likely a good deal, be mindful of what gpus and cpus are listed in the specs:
currently people consider amd cpus the best for gaming and in a modern prebuilt u would look for am5 cpus listed as ryzen 7xxx/9xxx and there’s x3d variants that are high performance listed as ryzen 7xxxX3D/9xxxX3D
for gpus good value cards would be 9060xt 16gb/5060ti 16gb for prebuilts around the 1000 dollar range, above that till 1500 u would look for rtx 5070, 9070 and maybe sometimes the 9070xt if its a good deal, upto 2000 look for 5070ti/9070xt builds its a bad price honestly since u could make parts list for those cards for way less before the AI ram and ssd shortage but it is what it is.

[upper rain]

i should have bought one when i could. madge. missed out on 4090 and 5700x3d gains.

[sinful blade]

Nah, apparently my games are all better performing on nvidia drivers

[nocturne flicker]

Essay detected

[upper rain]

interesting

[nocturne flicker]

Tldr plz

[proud jackal]

lowest fb offer is 2300 so far

[upper rain]

get on linux, amd runs gud

[hardy pier]

can you send me the server?

[grand kernel]

ayo 4090 still fetching 2300+?

[opaque sedge]

Join buildapcsales server set up notifs and snag a prebuilt

[upper rain]

yah

[nocturne flicker]

Mmmmmmmmm

[opaque sedge]

Go to their subreddit should be a link there

[nocturne flicker]

Can I get a tldr

[sinful blade]

It doesn’t matter if I’m on Linux
Linux or not, I get 120fps on average with d2 on ultra
A 4070(equal card) gets 140

[grand kernel]

I guess people just want it that badly for AI stuff

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-burnt-peanut-burntpeanut-theburntpeanut-rage-tarkov-gif-12064530684685202490

[proud jackal]

they are all people with a certain asian origin.

[grand kernel]

ah...

ge, you take wechat pay?

[opaque sedge]

China prolly has more 5090s than the west rn

[opaque sedge]

That gamersnexus china video was insane

[grand kernel]

time to hope my 9070xt feels like living for 10 years at this rate

[royal crow]

If we stop buying stuff from China they'll stop being a threat

[upper rain]

newegg routinely has 9070/xt/5070 ti openbox/refurb prebuilts for like $1400

[worthy meteor]

it's time to forget anything else that comes after this generation and keep buying 9070xts

[upper rain]

they sell out quickly though

a while ago i spotted one for $1000 and some change

sold/shipped by newegg

[royal crow]

Real af

[grand kernel]

good thing I have superior non melty power connector

[nocturne flicker]

Confiscated

[royal crow]

I'm going to buy this current or last gen parts forever

[worthy meteor]

same

[upper rain]

i'm getting mega high end RDNA5 idc how much it costs i yearn for more high end chiplet GPUs with i2c headers

10950 XTXX SUPER TI

[worthy meteor]

inb4 they allocate all of those for AI and relaunch RDNA4 again

[royal crow]

I bet u there's a way to mod a pcie 8 pin onto an rtx

[grand kernel]

inb4 their highest end consumer rdna5 gpu is 60 class

[nocturne flicker]

So when they run out of stuff for current/last gen and the parts start becoming scarce with scarcity based prices you still gonna buy?

[royal crow]

💔

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/froth-slober-gif-21006837

[grand kernel]

I mean yeah probably

that's also not within my capabilities

[worthy meteor]

honestly I hate to say it but I can see AMD pulling what they're doing to laptop CPUs to desktop GPUs

[ashen swan]

After thinking about it

[worthy meteor]

the BS where they keep using previous gen architecture

[upper rain]

iirc low end RDNA 5 is supposed to launch first

with LPDDR5X

[ashen swan]

I'm not goona get a Fraemwork desktop

[grand kernel]

oh boy, rx 10400 4gb

[heady plinth]

Unless you're changing the pcb you can just use the octopus adapter to do that.

[upper rain]

i don't think so, i don't think they have the marketshare to supply exclusively AI/professional without massively overproducing and undervaluing their brand

[grand kernel]

now featuring pcie 5.0 x4 interface and 32-bit memory bus

[royal crow]

Melt

[upper rain]

i think it'll just be priced like a prosumer card

i am fully prepared to drop $3 grand on whatever the cheapest variant of the highest end die is

[royal crow]

I would kill for the new laptop or whatever

[upper rain]

that is the opposite of what should be done

[royal crow]

Other way around

[upper rain]

3x 8 pin soldered to the 12v high failure rate pins

[grand kernel]

the funniest thing about that is that if done right it would still be safer than 12vhpwr

[upper rain]

yep

[grand kernel]

cause that pcb has load balancing

[upper rain]

actual load balancing

mhm

[opaque sedge]

But its not us who buys from china technically 💀 its mostly business who then sell it to us

[upper rain]

the worst thing about 12vhpwr is that at one point the spec allowed for load balancing. 3090 ti has load balancing. it was a choice to explicitly ban load balancing

[royal crow]

So just force the businesses to stop

[opaque sedge]

5070ti open box prebuilt for 1400 bucks would be elite!

[nocturne flicker]

Geopolitics doesn't stop or disappear with a trade embargo

[opaque sedge]

Especially if there’s still a warranty

[royal crow]

Moderated capitalism

[opaque sedge]

So socialism?

[upper rain]

we offshored our manufacturing for 50 years. it would take another 50 to rebuild what the bankers and politicians sold out

[royal crow]

Skull issue

[worthy meteor]

I mean I can see them launching something like 10640xt that's rdna 4 and then 10650xt that's rdna5

[upper rain]

america is only relevant because of stored post-war wealth. the only thing we produce are ideas

and most of them are shitty ideas

[worthy meteor]

to confuse consumers and stretch their supply

[royal crow]

Skull issue

[opaque sedge]

Guys

[royal crow]

Let's change that

[opaque sedge]

Steam controller or hall effect keyboard

[royal crow]

Yes

[opaque sedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/monkey-listening

[grand kernel]

so many people can barely afford to live as-is, society would genuinely collapse if this were to happen

[upper rain]

i agree, we should be spending trillions of dollars on rebuilding manufacturing instead of making another stealth fighter 200 years ahead of the chinese instead of a paltry 100 years

[opaque sedge]

Well i’m ready for the steam controller…

Still conflicted tho

[nocturne flicker]

How about we focus on fixing domestic issues like our crap health insurance schemes, wealth inequality, housing shortage and general wage stagnation

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[opaque sedge]

But how

[upper rain]

low end RDNA 5 should be radically cheaper to produce than RDNA 4, i don't know why they'd keep producing RDNA 4 at all. shift existing N4 capacity to Epyc or whatever to satisfy existing contracts and pump out millions of 100mm^2 10650's with 16GB of LPDDR5X for $300/p

[nocturne flicker]

Taxes, directed government spending and bolstered labor regulations and regulation enforcement

[royal crow]

How about we annihilate the health industry because they suck

[opaque sedge]

No like how do u elect officials who will do that with how much leg pulling other officials or to be officials do

[worthy meteor]

aren't 3nm wafers expensive af? I can see them relying on the N4 node still considering demand from everyone else

[nocturne flicker]

It requires political will. Good luck

[upper rain]

wages are stagnating because we aren't producing anything. we're just diluting what wealth we have by printing infinite money to buy more chinese and chinese satelite state imports. manufacturing is the first step, social issues come next. i'd rather have the first quadrillionaires and be able to buy a home than tar and feather the billionaires and still be down on my luck

[opaque sedge]

I think humanity has raised people with the wrong education ngl… people for generations wanna be leaders not to lead but for the prestige…

[upper rain]

shouldn't be, it's still using finfets. n2 and beyond is where pricing explodes

[nocturne flicker]

Wages are stagnating because we have taken the few measures we had pushing them up i.e. unions and political pressure, and completely abandoned them

[upper rain]

if wages go up and we don't produce anything then prices simply rise according to wage increases. you'd just be further inflating the dollar at that point

[nocturne flicker]

We defanged labor unions, busted them, prevented new ones from forming, defanged the NLRB and sat on our hands and pretended wages aren't a problem

[lone mango]

tsmc increased n3 wafer prices by a lot

[upper rain]

money is a representation of work done. the work America does produces minimal value

[opaque sedge]

Wish unions would be empowered first, would guarantee healthcare for a lot of families too

[upper rain]

fix the dollar you fix your wages

[lone mango]

either 33 or 50%

[nocturne flicker]

Wages and prices do not increase at parity

[worthy meteor]

I remember them doubling the price, gonna have to check prices

[nocturne flicker]

Productivity has long eclipsed wages

[lone mango]

maybe even that and i only remember the n2 price in comparison to n3

like it not being that much more expensive in relation to n3 because of how much n3 went up

[upper rain]

i didn't say it would increase in parity, but that increasing the dollar value attached to non-productive labour just means more money, not more product. so prices increase

everyone is flush with dollars for the same imports

doesn't fix any underlying issue

[velvet summit]

People in the upper classes are working less and less yet making more and more

[upper rain]

the problem is that we export corn and software and designs. we don't produce anything meaningful at any grand scale

[upper rain]

because they're investing in production, which doesn't happen in America really

it's all east asia

[nocturne flicker]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exports_of_the_United_States

[upper rain]

lol, literally the first blurb attached to the article is that the ratio of exports to imports has decreased

we don't produce anything meaningful

[lone mango]

was it reagan that duped the americans into giving away almost all their manufacturing capability

[nocturne flicker]

In the year 2024, our exports consisted of: $309bil in mineral fuels, $284bil in machinery including computers, $226bil in electrical equipment and machinery, $164bil in aircraft, spacecraft and/or parts, $149bil in precious metals and gems, $131bil in vehicles, $106bil in medical equipment, $99bil in pharmaceuticals, $78bil in plastics, $59bil in organic chemicals and so on

[lone mango]

tool and die keeps going down every year and honestly i do not think it can come back

[lone mango]

wages will stagnate and we will like it

or rather

wages will continue stagnating and we will continue liking it

[velvet summit]

Wages will continue stagnating and we will continue hanging on to it

[nocturne flicker]

Don't you know all we have to do is open up the same exact sweatshops they have in all the countries we exported our factories to and surely our wages will magically go up

[velvet summit]

If the minimum wage went up at the same rate as inflation then nobody would be struggling as much as they are now in their minimum wage job that has not been increasing at the same rate as inflation

[nocturne flicker]

The fact of the matter is that as long as people here aren't making enough money, none of them are going to be willing to spend the extra money to manufacture things here

[velvet summit]

A minimum wage job used to be enough to afford a house
Nowadays the housing is way above being affordable at minimum wage and the minimum wage is below inflation

[nocturne flicker]

They may talk it up, but when it comes down to it they don't put their money where their mouths are

Because they don't have the money

[velvet summit]

If not even large restaurant chains can "afford" to pay their employees enough to not require tips to survive, what makes you think that every other company would pay a livable wage whether the dollar value was higher than the British pound or not

Welcome to late stage capitalism

[tranquil pebble]

crapitalism

[gleaming sedge]

i mean also the money has to come from somewhere so as the wage goes up so does the cost of the product they make

also trying to decide if i get a harden nozzle and asa carbon fiber filament or not

[upper rain]

the chinese just spent tons of money on building out manufacturing and selling at a loss. not to mention actually harnessing their neo-empire through the belt and road initiative. america has done neither such thing

we have such tremendous capital that we could absolutely outspend the chinese, we simply lack the political willpower to make such efforts that a politician's successor's successor's successor's etc. would reap the rewards of

[nocturne flicker]

No, we lack the political will to not elect people to raid the national treasury and turn it over to billionaires

[velvet summit]

The problem is slightly less where it is coming from, than where it is going

Upper management of corporations take home much more money for less effort, while the workers doing the majority of the work are not compensated properly

Sure, Chinese workers and other cheap manufacturer areas are paid in pennies, but the cost of living in those areas are also much lower

[tranquil pebble]

isnt this whole convo getting into kinda... controversial topics?

[gleaming sedge]

for sure but they will never ever give up their money

[gleaming sedge]

for sure

[nocturne flicker]

Absolutely

[trail nest]

chat, i really hope you guys made me make the right decision cuz i really paid a lot of money for this thing

[sinful blade]

We did

[gleaming sedge]

just like minimum wage really should not be something you use to buy a stinking house

[sinful blade]

Dont second guess yourself

[trail nest]

BUT YEAH, YOLO! MONEY COMES N GOES AND YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE SO MIGHT AS WELL SPEND MONEY ON THINGS YOU WANT B4 YOU DIE!

[velvet summit]

When minimum wage can't even afford rent, owning a house is impossible

[sinful blade]

Hey ninja, wanna buy me a 4070?

[nocturne flicker]

Why not? If you can't even afford a shack on a wage what is the point of the wage

[sinful blade]

I’ll give you my 9060XT

[trail nest]

no cuz i ain't rich

[sinful blade]

Shame

[tranquil pebble]

crispy critters

[gleaming sedge]

time to strike rent make them yoohoos learn that because their kitchen is black and white does not mean its worth 5k a month

[velvet summit]

Most people who are living away from family need to have roommates to afford to rent a small townhouse, you can't even live by yourself anymore

[gleaming sedge]

to get you to work and back to where you are staying until you move up in the chain

[velvet summit]

Most people won't be able to move much higher though

[gleaming sedge]

they need to try harder than or find a real nice box then

[velvet summit]

Society relies on the basic jobs but they're also undervalued

[gleaming sedge]

like if you expect to always work at McDonalds running the grill your entire life you need a major wake up. its a start job if you can not move up or find a better job you need some MAJOR life changes

[velvet summit]

Also you know what motivates people to work more than slaving away barely being able to afford to live?

Being able to comfortably afford to live without working your body to failure

Minimum wage should be able to support someone living by themselves in the area they live in without destroying them

There are more than a few people who work more than a single job to be able to feed their family

[nocturne flicker]

Yeah screw them elderly folks who cares if their retirement checks don't make ends meet they are losers working starter jobs at fast food joints, they really need a major wake up stupid boomers frfr

[gleaming sedge]

and if they look at it that way for the most part they set them selves up to fail. they need to see for example "i am a cashier but man i really want more money i should try my best and move to a supervisor position so i can live better." "oh im making good money but im ready to buy a nice house and maybe a new car ill try to move to a manager position"

[nocturne flicker]

You have never worked as a cashier have you?

[gleaming sedge]

if anything the boomers are living the best

[gleaming sedge]

lol 4 years now 3 stores

[nocturne flicker]

Wuh? Still a cashier for 4 years? What a loser

Haven't you just thought about becoming a supervisor?

[gleaming sedge]

they should have chose a better retirment job and invested better

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/risada-risada-meme-gif-1808894066457451256

[gleaming sedge]

i am making decent enough money where im fine with it lol looking to get into CNC shop near me

[velvet summit]

What makes you think "trying your best" would guarantee you the ability to move up in positions? Also most supervisors are still paid jack shit

[gleaming sedge]

sounds like time to move to a better company or state then. dont live dead smack new york or anywhere in CA and you will be doing much better

[velvet summit]

And also people with disabilities tend to be in a much worse state because they don't have many options

[gleaming sedge]

besides disability that for most of the ones i know make a pretty decent amount

[pliant berry]

pretty sure even mcdonald's supervisors around here get paid at least 6 figures

[grand kernel]

fun fact: working 3 full time jobs (aka 24 hours a day) at minimum wage ($16.90/hr) in my area just barely puts a 1 bedroom apartment within range of what you can afford following the classic rent = 1/3 rule

[pliant berry]

yup

[velvet summit]

Amazing

[gleaming sedge]

jesus a 3 bed 2 bath 1372 square foot house near me is 224,900

[nocturne flicker]

Hey guys, if you are broke and your job isn't giving you enough money to make ends meet and you have no opportunity to do better, just spends some money and move

[grand kernel]

imagine working 120 hours/week and still having to seriously consider roommates

[nocturne flicker]

Pick up what little you have with your empty bank account and move somewhere else

[gleaming sedge]

you are talking like a old person so not really worth talking to you honestly

[velvet summit]

Also this also doesn't work for most people in their situation
If you can only get paid minimum wage in like California, chances are you are not able to afford moving away from the state
Or even if you can, the risk is pretty high unless you can guarantee that the job you picked would keep you and you're able to get a different job if you need to

[grand kernel]

job security in 2026

[nocturne flicker]

What is bro gonna suggest next? Hustle harder and you'll magically accrue wealth? Put forward a can do attitude and maybe your boss'll pat you on the back?

[gleaming sedge]

if you can be a kiss ass you will do pretty good in retail

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/risada-risada-meme-gif-1808894066457451256

[velvet summit]

I don't know why you're so against minimum wages that are able to let someone survive off that wage

💀

[pliant berry]

or in the financial district...

if you know you know

[gleaming sedge]

because for simple reason. it will never exist lol

[gleaming sedge]

you clearly dont ever work in retail

[nocturne flicker]

I am a gas station manager. My job consists of customer service for 40 hours a week combined with light paperwork and minor coworker management (i.e. scheduling)

Oh and answering and redirecting phonecalls because that got shunted onto us

[gleaming sedge]

ahh so you very much should understand how much kiss assing goes on in retail then

but you clearly do not

[nocturne flicker]

Yeah. It goes nowhere

[gleaming sedge]

it very much did in the last 3 places i have worked

[nocturne flicker]

You get a pat on the back, a dollar raise and told to go figure the job out yourself

[tranquil pebble]

Different people have different experiences. Shocking, amirite

[gleaming sedge]

3 part time cashiers get 12 hours a week and another 2 are getting 25-30 that started at the same time

just because they are eye candy and solder boys for the manager

[nocturne flicker]

I'm in rural America, we don't have the luxury of playing stupid games with hours like that because our wages are on the literal floor and our cashiers tend to be kids who can't work a lot of shifts

[gleaming sedge]

lol i am very much in rural as well

closest walmart in 35 to 40 minutes away

[nocturne flicker]

Kids or folks nearing retirement that is

[velvet summit]

You'll be lucky to just get a part time job where I am

Not even Walmart is hiring

[gleaming sedge]

thats bad

walmart always is here but never want to actually hire people. tried and they say no. should have sued them over it

such a easy case to win

[velvet summit]

Sue them for what

It's not against the law to not hire people

[gleaming sedge]

discrimination

[velvet summit]

On what grounds

If it were so easy to win then why don't you sue them

[gleaming sedge]

they have MANY couples working there yet wouldnt let me work there because my gf does yet shes one of their favorite workers

[gleaming sedge]

dealing with a store and the BBB

[nocturne flicker]

I don't think you have articulated a protected class to sue for discrimination against

[gleaming sedge]

but didnt matter since i also said no since they wouldnt give the days off i needed and that would not have worked so went somewhere else and much much better

[nocturne flicker]

If it were your spouse rather than your gf then I think there would be some grounds to sue for unequal treatment because iirc there is some regulations regarding that

[velvet summit]

So they didn't hire you because you had a different schedule

[gleaming sedge]

No because she asked if they will and they said probably not since we were dating. I was considering not taking the job since they didn't have a spot open that fit the schedule I wanted but still was considering the job

[velvet summit]

Hmm
Is she a supervisor or something?

Your gf I mean

[tranquil pebble]

Someone triggered a in the Xbox server room.

[nocturne flicker]

Unless your state has specific rules about discrimination based on relationships outside of marital status I don't think it matters. Being an employee's girl or boyfriend isn't a protected class in regards to discrimination laws

[velvet summit]

Even then, most companies have policies against conflict of interest situations e.g. partner/family supervising you

[gleaming sedge]

Nope something I was going for stocker

[gleaming sedge]

They have 9 other couples working there

[velvet summit]

Issue isn't the couple's, but if they were in a situation that could be in a conflict of interest

Like I mentioned, someone's partner supervising their partner

[gleaming sedge]

their concern is if i called in she would call in but when she calls in now its so she can spend more time with me. every one of their couples now do that. crap Thursday one couple was a no call no show

[weak cedar]

Yap been out of a job since August of last year and thankfully live with my parents but still. I did get a seasonal job though.

[wise wigeon]

better than nothing

[weak cedar]

Both super walmarts and d sporting goods have had no job openings as well as menards

[wise wigeon]

seeing people online post about 800+ applications before getting a job is real scary

[velvet summit]

That was me pretty much

[weak cedar]

Ya you have to make sure your resume fits the ats system so real people can at lest check it.

[velvet summit]

I didn't do 800 but I did do more than I could count

The market has been rough recently

[wise wigeon]

i feel kind of bad because my first job I walked in and spoke to the manager and was hired the next week

[velvet summit]

Recently as in the last few years

[weak cedar]

I'm just going to go to a temp agency or one that finds you a job, it seems easier

[velvet summit]

It's a bit harder for me to find a job that meets my moral compass
Aka not forced to have a sales quota for warranties

[wise wigeon]

but rn I'm back in school and working is not super feasible so

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809840106478502011/1500315058364874842/f3a3fe05a82df4697a93abb0d2298bed.png?ex=69f7fcc8&is=69f6ab48&hm=3a76e050dfbe805db88d87d536e54dd844dbaf6cd108c7e8bf40a84d19d7c4d2&

[wise wigeon]

btw idk if any of ya'll have the youtube dislike extension but ya'll been getting popups for new permissions?

[velvet summit]

Which permissions

[weak cedar]

Life is a game and so is getting a job

[wise wigeon]

doesnt help that the AI is often terrible

[nocturne flicker]

I did 90

And that was because I gave up and took the lowest paying job in town

[wise wigeon]

lemme check rq, I've just been closing the noti because i'm unsure about it yet

it was read and change your data on returnyoutubedislikeapi.com

[velvet summit]

Speaking of AI filtering job applications, my professor talking about digitalization in a lecture mentioned a risk of using AI to filter applicants, which has a much higher chance of racially profiling someone off of their name than if it were a human reviewing the application

He used an example of his own name which had middle eastern origins, which an AI could associate it with certain countries

[wise wigeon]

it only started popping up like a day or 2 ago

[velvet summit]

It is certainly not ideal

[wise wigeon]

presumably with a new update

brave and chrome just autodisabled it until i either provide permissions or remove the extension

[velvet summit]

I assume it's fine, they probably just updated the backend?

[wise wigeon]

when I searched it up saw that people were posting that they had this message instead

mine doesnt have the localhost bit but uh yeah

[velvet summit]

Hmm

[wise wigeon]

i'll prob just hold out for a bit

its not a extension i absolutely need, but it is nice to see the ratio to see if certain videos may or may not be worth my time

[velvet summit]

Seems like it was an accident and was removed https://www.rxddit.com/r/youtube/s/uNF6OUI0nx

Honestly this is a reasonable mistake to make

Typically development isn't done on prod

The dev probably had a copy of the database hosted on their local machine to develop

[wise wigeon]

honestly I havent messed with any extensions in like maybe 3-4 years so it was just weird to see

used to have so many but then i vamooshed pretty much all of them besides this and a video speed controller

[velvet summit]

Good to be prudent, but should be fine in this case

[wise wigeon]

especially once I moved to brave so adblock extensions werent needed

[weak cedar]

I had that for general youtube

Not even a extension

[lunar bobcat]

Anyone ever had a 6500xt that stays at 62⁰c then as soon as you exit a game it drops to 40⁰c

This is a first for me...after owning a few rx6400's

[worn wave]

...when you exit a game the temps go down

That sounds normal

[onyx merlin]

I mean no

but my Steam Deck is like 66-67 C for most games I play... no acess to my gaming desktop at moment

on Vacation away from home

so been using my deck to game

[lunar bobcat]

Yeah that is normal but this ons is like INSTANT

[worn wave]

Still fairly normal if the fans don't ramp down immediately

[lunar bobcat]

My other gpu's dont even stop spinning their fans at the point of game closing

[lunar bobcat]

This one does

[worn wave]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar bobcat]

Pretty sure its the copper

I got it used on ebay and its clean and cools great

Dont even look like its ever been repasted

[onyx merlin]

when do you all think the AI hype/craze will die down ?

and Computer parts/other electronics become more avaliable etc.

[lunar bobcat]

Eeeh.....no

Well...maybe

Idk

[onyx merlin]

I mean I think it will be normal again in 2030 right now compaines are desperate to get AI into their comapines so they can start firing loads of people .

And then possibly a calm period of 10 ish years mabey 2030-2040 of nothing much going on

and then more job loss and AI going even futhur or something

[bitter ridge]

Under load it runs hotter that is an obvious thing

[lunar bobcat]

Well let me just say this cooling wise it puts my 9070 to shame

That puppy underload is at 72⁰c

[bitter ridge]

This is the most apples vs oranges comparison ever

[lunar bobcat]

I know i know one has a lower wattage than the other

Im mainly suprised that this being a single fan is so cool

Its going in a linux build as is anyways

Just waiting for my parts still

[wise wigeon]

Some are set to stop once you drop under a temp threshold, say 60C

[lunar bobcat]

Yeah i know that thats how most gpu's are but this one just instantly cools dont think ive ever had a single fanned gpu cool this fast

[wise wigeon]

It’s not exactly a high power card

[lunar bobcat]

True

[wise wigeon]

The core on my 9070xt barely ticks past 53c

[lunar bobcat]

Is it bad that my prime non xt one does go bast 53c

It usually sits at 72⁰c

[wise wigeon]

Different cards different cooling solutions

[grand kernel]

way less thermal mass than the 9070xt

temp changes will happen faster

[lunar bobcat]

Very...

Oops replied to the wrong one

Asus's does have a less thicker cooler too

[wise wigeon]

My 9070xt isn’t like a crazy model just a pulse but even then it’s a beefy heatsink and three fan design

[grand kernel]

my 9070xt core temp is fine

hotspot gets spicy

[lunar bobcat]

Mines a 3fan as well

[wise wigeon]

Mem temp used to worry me

But apparently the memory just runs hot fo the 9070xt

[lunar bobcat]

My non xt mem temps did too...

[grand kernel]

my vram sits at 90c

[lunar bobcat]

Mine sits at 94c iirc

[wise wigeon]

In a game mine is usually low to mid 80s

[grand kernel]

after getting used to 30 series 90c is nothing

[lunar bobcat]

My 3060 never got that hot

[wise wigeon]

I mean it was only really an issue for the 3090 iirc

[lunar bobcat]

I miss my evga 3060

[grand kernel]

had a 3080 that was pinned at 112c out of the box

had to pad mod it

[wise wigeon]

Damn

[grand kernel]

112c dropped to 64c

[wise wigeon]

My ftw3 ultra was pretty chill

[grand kernel]

the stock pads were criminally bad

[wise wigeon]

I miss eggs

Evga*

[lunar bobcat]

I miss eggs too

[wise wigeon]

I hate iOS autocorrect

[velvet summit]

Lmao

[lunar bobcat]

I had to turn mine off

[velvet summit]

Looks like gboard knows evga

[wise wigeon]

I mean this is a new phone and I didn’t talk pc stuff in this phone much

So it hasn’t learned

But I do miss board

[velvet summit]

It's in the default dictionary in my case

[wise wigeon]

Gboard*

god dammit

[velvet summit]

Lmao

Gboard has a bunch of company and acronyms already in the dictionary

[wise wigeon]

If android was a more compelling option I woulda switched

But honestly the big boos have been kind of stagnant the last few years

[velvet summit]

What made you use iOS instead

Neither option is compelling to me imo

[lunar bobcat]

Ow arctic fans hurt

[wise wigeon]

Well I have a s21

[lunar bobcat]

Same

[wise wigeon]

But carrier deal had an iPhone 11 for $100

I was like why not

[velvet summit]

iPhone 11 is like 6 years old now though no?

[wise wigeon]

Some people in my family needed an upgrade

[lunar bobcat]

All of my family got iphones i was the only one who got android

[wise wigeon]

This was in 22

[lunar bobcat]

I paid my phone off before thwy could

[velvet summit]

Even then, it would have been like a bit over 2 years

[wise wigeon]

I’m in a 17

On

Damn you iOS

[velvet summit]

[wise wigeon]

Yeah that doesn’t look good

[velvet summit]

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-andy-herrera-not-guilty-your-honor-not-guilty-im-not-guilty-gif-25660229

[lunar bobcat]

[wise wigeon]

Man this is making me realize how old I am

Only a few years away from 10 year reunion

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

I wish I was a less paranoid person man

I’m still nervous about the extension

But I’ve been laying in bed because I’m like hella sick now

[pseudo raven]

Real

samsung has the best ecosystem on android but they're getting pretty complacent

I really wanted to try the op15 out but I have everything on Samsung already

[wise wigeon]

But yeah idk it just made things easier because of how prevalent iOS is in the us

[pseudo raven]

Eh

Only annoying thing is airdrop at this point

And even that will be fixed soon

[wise wigeon]

And since then I got an iPad and I traded my laptop with my brothers MacBook because it just matches my needs for school more

I mostly got the iPad because it was like 180

[pseudo raven]

For school even an iPad is enough really

[wise wigeon]

But it’s a good note taker and the drawing applications are better than androids

[pseudo raven]

Unless you're doing engineering or coding stuff I guess

[wise wigeon]

Nah you need a laptop in my program

[pseudo raven]

I've gotten through two years of college on a tab s9+

[wise wigeon]

My friend got through undergrad with a bad Chromebook

[pseudo raven]

Yeah if you're like a bio major

Literally just an iPad is enough

When I need an actual computer for something I remote home to my PC

[wise wigeon]

I’m in a medical field grad program

[pseudo raven]

Not an md?

[wise wigeon]

So the iPad is nice

[pseudo raven]

Like a biomedical PhD or something

[wise wigeon]

More just intentionally keeping details low

Online and offline life I have a line

So unless we’ve been online friends for like 3+ years I keep details limited

[pseudo raven]

I'm just on a similar path in education is why i was asking

But it's ok

[wise wigeon]

The separation I feel is good