general-chat

[sinful blade]

@worn night light blue

[worn night]

Ohh

Do u have the 3d file

[nocturne flicker]

And if you want an invasive species, get a cat

[queen briar]

damn. ai lied to me again

[nocturne flicker]

They are invasive

[dusk knot]

You're invasive

[queen briar]

I...

was that at me or weary

[dusk knot]

Weary ofc

[queen briar]

kek

[sinful blade]

Nope

[nocturne flicker]

Yes, humans actually are

We are the ultimate invasive species

[worn night]

Real

[queen briar]

if we remove all the other species, we arent invading.

[worn night]

Ok conquest

[dusk knot]

Hhhhhmmmmm

[nocturne flicker]

That is literally one of the components of being invasive

We outcompete with native species

[queen briar]

thats called natural selection.

[tranquil pebble]

I wouldn't know. I don't think I've had turkey bacon.

[queen briar]

beef bacon is better

[dusk knot]

It's not bad

When done right

[queen briar]

deep fry the turkey bacon

mmmm

[nocturne flicker]

If you ever do only get the stuff that is a rectangular strip, not a strip with curves cut into it

[tranquil pebble]

deep frying bacon doesn't work all that well

[nocturne flicker]

The rectangular strips are basically an alternative to canadian bacon with effectively the same flavor profile

I.e. none

[tranquil pebble]

I'll stick with pork bacon thanks

[nocturne flicker]

Canadian bacon is pork bacon

Fully precooked back bacon

[unreal trail]

why is beef so stupidly expensive

[dense locust]

Current economic environment

[unreal trail]

but its just cow

[nocturne flicker]

We only have so many cows that can be slaughtered

We usually have to import cows or beef to meet our meat demand

[opaque sedge]

Cattle shortage and price gouging cuz there’s a oligopoly on cattle products

[nocturne flicker]

Keep in mind animal feed has historically been high since COVID to the point that the new normal price is practically equivalent to the prices during the 2012-2013 drought

[opaque sedge]

Oh right i think there was a grain shortage too

We’re cooked

We’ll be eating insect based proteins in 10 years

No more steaks

Cept for rich people

[nocturne flicker]

There is a fertilizer shortage too don't forget

Because we import a lot of fertilizer and one specific country just so happens to be easily capable of blocking the export of about 33% of the world's fertilizer

On top of a ton of oil

[nocturne flicker]

Nah

Soy protein

They could call it Soylent

And they could come in different color varieties

[worn wave]

do NOT, I repeat do NOT, drink the green soylent

[nocturne flicker]

Soylent Green is a delicious, nutritious wafer, not a drink silly

[worn night]

Turns out amd didnt send a 9950x3d2 to LTT either

[tranquil pebble]

Soylent RGB gaming drink

[tranquil pebble]

AMD knows the chip is pointless lol

if a single CCD could access ALL of that cache it would be much less so

[worn night]

lol

[tranquil pebble]

and it probably cooks the VRMs on most motherboards lol

[proud jackal]

He bought a jet

[unreal trail]

too bad there's a jet fuel shortage on the way

[nocturne flicker]

He ain't flying that anyways

It'll sit in a hanger for ages and gather dust

[royal crow]

Tf did he buy a jet for

Spoiled aah

Can't be trusted with money aah

A jet may or may not be the most useless thing a person can buy

[nocturne flicker]

He wanted a jet. And then had to back fill and come up with a reason why and decided gamer jet

Now it gets to qualify as a company expense and Linus gets access to a jet

[grand kernel]

well I gained some respect for jay today

🤣

[trail nest]

chat is this a good gpu? i purchased it 2 days ago

[grand kernel]

telling AMD directly to never email him again about their AI slop is a huge W

[grand kernel]

why ask after buying and not before?

it's a good gpu if you got it for a good price

[trail nest]

well, i wasn't sure and just asked AI to help me pair a good gpu with my ryzen 5 7600x and this gpu came up

so i bought it hahaha

[grand kernel]

bruh

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe AMD fired their PR department and only directed some people to an outsourced PR firm

Would make sense for how AMD has basically given up trying to interact with consumers and how nobody has gotten Radeon team to shut up and stop making things worse

[royal crow]

In that case, you have to assume you probably got ripped off

Ai is not a trustworthy source of any information

[grand kernel]

excuse me! the pizza recipe I got from AI that includes glue and rocks is perfect

anyways the 9060xt 16gb is $440 so the absolute maximum to pay for a 7700xt is $350 imo

that card is currently showing $400 for me so yeah AI gave you bad advice if you paid $400

[worn wave]

*not exactly. But it's not great for hardware recommendations unless you have a good model and prompt that can fetch pricing and relative performance

[grand kernel]

I thjnk even $350 is a little hard to justify for 7700xt unless you have an extremely strict budget and everything else in the build is bottomed out

considering the 9060xt has significantly higher performance on top of higher vram and fsr 4

[grand kernel]

it probably fetched a reddit comment from before 9060xt existed or something lol

[worn wave]

mhm

interestingly TPU shows the 9060xt 16gb and 7700xt at only 3% apart

*with the 7700xt at 103%

which doesn't seem right

Toms has them pretty close too

factory OC on the 7700xt but I doubt that's even +5% perf

[grand kernel]

meh i went off of steel nomad where 9060xt 16gb (3798) is 14.4% ahead of 7700xt (3320)

[worn wave]

That's more along the lines of what I'd expect

[grand kernel]

even if their perf is tied the 9060xt is def worth quite a bit more just for 16gb and fsr4

[worn wave]

And then on top of that you get fsr4

[grand kernel]

even if they finally enable official fsr4 support for rdna3 it's still gonna be the slightly inferior int8 implementation

[worn wave]

12gb is still pretty solid but fsr3 vs 4 is pretty huge imo

[grand kernel]

9060xt also significantly more efficient and energy prices are on the rise

160w vs. 245w

[grand kernel]

damn

maybe my cpu score wouldn't be so low if my cpu wasn't running at 0 MHz 🙁

[trail nest]

@sick niche are you in LTT discord

[worthy meteor]

idk man 3dmark can't even read what I'm using smh

[worn night]

calzoskiDog

[queen briar]

youd have better luck using PCPartpicker and just look at the buidls they paired with the PC.

[worn night]

you shouldve asked us dude

i even made you those pcpartpicker lists

[queen briar]

^

i learned from friends, i dont make PCP list unless they are buying that day

[worn night]

that too

[queen briar]

every month they ask for the build and i gotta update or find a new deal.

[trail nest]

ya, i made careful decision and decided to trust google AI

[queen briar]

nah, conact me when you got stacks to burn.

[worn night]

which was a bad decision

[trail nest]

why?

[worn night]

we all literally said why

how much did that 7700xt cost

[queen briar]

never chose 7. it cant be trusted.

7 ate 9.

[worn night]

[worn night]

yeah thats not a good deal at all

since youve already bought it you might as well keep it

[trail nest]

why? i bought it brand new lol

[worn night]

it doesnt matter that its brand new if something else is the same price and better

🤦🏻‍♂️

[trail nest]

i'll just have to work extra hard this week grinding uber and doordash to make up this money

[queen briar]

its not even a good deal price wise

[trail nest]

show me what's better in the same price range that's brand new

[worn night]

I did but ill just find it again

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-challenger-rx9060xt-cl-16go-radeon-rx-9060-xt-16gb-graphics-card-double-fans/p/N82E16814930140

[trail nest]

this one has 12gb vram

[worn night]

at 1080p you would be fine at 8gb, with the games youre playing

[worn night]

Please know you are talking to people here that know all of this?

[worn night]

this is the 16gb 9060xt

[trail nest]

hrmmm, should i return my 7700 xt for the 9060 xt

[worn night]

if you want

[trail nest]

but i think it'll be more expensive from newegg due to shipping

i get free shipping on amazon that's why i bought my card on amazon

i actually bought all my parts on amazon cuz of amazon prime and i get free shipping

[worn night]

the same thing costs $10 more on amazon with free shipping

how much does shipping on newegg cost for you

[trail nest]

like another $12 on newegg for shipping

[worn night]

well then there you go

[trail nest]

let me check

[queen briar]

what shipping

[worn night]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Radeon-Graphics-GV-R9060XTGAMING-OC-16GD/dp/B0F91KM1CK/ref=sr_1_1

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Swift-Radeon-Gaming-RX-96TSW16BQ/dp/B0FC2XXSG5/ref=sr_1_3

heres some

[worn wave]

30 day return window for Amazon, I'd send it back

[trail nest]

@worn night why is the tax so expensive wtheck lol

[queen briar]

tax has nothing to do with newegg or amazon.

[trail nest]

do you see the price difference now 9060 xt isn't really a money saver card

my 7700 xt is still about $30 cheaper

[velvet summit]

Spending 30 more would be worth it honestly

[queen briar]

its newer gen, will lastl onger, has mroe vram.

[worn wave]

$30 for 16gb vram vs 12, and fsr4 instead of fsr3

[worthy meteor]

I mean if you want to talk money saver the 8gb 9060xt sure does exist lol

[trail nest]

hrmmm

you guys are messing with my mind now

[nocturne flicker]

I don't know anything, my mind is empty

https://tenor.com/view/head-empty-cat-dumb-stupid-dumb-cat-gif-7569208462589859122

[worn night]

cause its like 9% or smth

[worn night]

no its facts

the 9060xt is better in every way

more vram, newer features as well

and longer driver support

[queen briar]

im more prone to mess around, yes.

[trail nest]

@worn night so should i return my 7700 xt and get the 9060 xt

[queen briar]

@trail nest Ask Google Ai why the 9060XT is better than the 7700XT

[worn night]

Yes

[trail nest]

kk

let me see if amazon has 9060 xt

[worn night]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Radeon-Graphics-GV-R9060XTGAMING-OC-16GD/dp/B0F91KM1CK/ref=sr_1_1

https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Swift-Radeon-Gaming-RX-96TSW16BQ/dp/B0FC2XXSG5/ref=sr_1_3

heres some

[grand kernel]

https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/d9094825b1edf22d3109b5c48a65618d04fe3d06/hub/2024/05/24/2f010e5a-bd3e-4bd9-8c39-5427129bbfad/cheese-at-15-38-58.png?auto=webp&width=1200

[trail nest]

what's that supposed to prove?

[worn night]

google ai in a nutshell

[queen briar]

AI isnt wrong, its just a stupid idea.

[worn night]

google ai and any ai is unreliable in pc building

[grand kernel]

that "careful decision" and "trust AI" don't belong in the same sentence?

[trail nest]

so AI shouldn't be trusted?

[grand kernel]

probably the least careful decision you can possibly make

[grand kernel]

do you put glue in pizza?

[trail nest]

@grand kernel @worn night this is why i got the 7700 xt lol

[worn night]

Ohio unimpressed

dumb ai doesnt know about 9000 series

[grand kernel]

feel free to listen to it instead

[trail nest]

hahaha

[grand kernel]

your money to lose

[worn night]

lol

[trail nest]

idk guys, AI has gotten me through my online college classes so far

it's gotten me all A's

that's why i asked AI to help me pick my GPU lol

[worn night]

Atrocious fact to admit

this is the people that will be in the job i want... dang

[trail nest]

i don't think i'd be passing my online college classes if i didn't have AI to help me lol

especially in my communications class lololol

[worn night]

thats called not being smart enough for college

and therefore you study more

to get smart enough

[trail nest]

i'm taking a break after this semester cause i feel like i'm relying on AI too much due to working so much trying to save money

[worn night]

a step in the right direction

good luck

[grand kernel]

your future doctor is currently being told they're absolutely right by chatgpt after suggesting that a lobotomy is the correct treatment for the common cold

[nocturne flicker]

Sending to your professors...now

[queen briar]

it is though

without a host, the virus dies.

[nocturne flicker]

If you need such heavy assistance to pass your courses that you turn to AI for everything, the only person you are hurting is yourself and your wallet

Because throwing an AI model a prompt to get the answer isn't learning

[queen briar]

this is like saying if you need a calc to pass your math test, you deserve to fail.

[nocturne flicker]

Depending on the math, yes. My calc teacher expected you to only use a calculator for the questions and lessons that explicitly needed one.

If it didn't need it, he required you to not use it

Even so, turning to AI isn't like using a calculator. It is like having a cheat sheet with all the answers right next to you and using it to answer the questions

If the cheat sheet had the potential to malfunction and spit out random crap that is

[sinful blade]

MY STICKER USED

[queen briar]

if oyu cant do it inyour head, then you dont understand the lesson. need to study more.

[nocturne flicker]

No. Mental math is not acceptable for math tests. You are expected to work out the questions that don't need a calculator on the actual paper or additional paper as needed.

Just like any other math course you are expected to show how you got your answer to show you comprehend what you are doing

[queen briar]

correct, so you should be able to work it out. if you need a resource to refer to, thats fine.

but having a machine do the job for you?

[nocturne flicker]

Even on the questions that you were working with a calculator you were expected to show your work. How do you a) learn a concept and b) show you understand a concept and process if the totality of your work is I asked an AI model for the answer

[grand kernel]

depends on the level of math, nobody is gonna expect you to show your work for long division in higher level math

[queen briar]

my argument is AI is a tool, same as a calc.

[grand kernel]

to some extent yes

[nocturne flicker]

A cheat sheet is not a tool

[queen briar]

AI is nothign more then a " sophisticated " search engine that is pullign answer from search engine results.

how you use it is up to you.

[grand kernel]

you can use a calculator help you solve certain steps of the problem

you can ask AI to solve the entire problem for you

there's a crucial difference there

[queen briar]

corret.

[grand kernel]

using a calculator doesn't allow you to get around knowing how to solve the problem conceptually

[worthy meteor]

The main difference is which step is simplified and which step is necessary for learning tbh

[grand kernel]

AI does

[queen briar]

you can ask powershell to do math too.

[queen briar]

you can use AI to learn as well. you need to vet what info its giving you but its the same with lookign at any web page on the internet for answers.

[grand kernel]

powershell is definitely not allowed in any math exam I've taken

granted the highest level math I've taken was automata theory

[worthy meteor]

I imagine it as a pipeline from calculator to Wolfram alpha to AI, above a certain point you can just throw it into that tool to simplify what's left

[grand kernel]

tbh at least up to the level of math i've taken simple arithmetic is the only thing you really ever get to stop showing work for

still expected to show work for simple algebra

ehh

you can also not show work for really simple derivatives and integrals too i guess

(d/dx)(x^2) = 2x is sufficient

[nocturne flicker]

I was showing work all the way up to and including calc 3, you could skimp on the work you showed as long as you clearly show how you went from on part of solving to another

Specific parts needed to have everything shown for

[worthy meteor]

In my current classes, the algebra after finding the right equations to use doesn't matter, I can just throw it in Wolfram alpha once I've understood what the right equations are for the situation

[grand kernel]

i think like pre-algebra is already high enough that you don't have to show work for arithmetic anymore

interesting

what class?

i've never not been expected to show work for algebra

[worthy meteor]

Well not math classes but physics and engineering

[grand kernel]

ah

[nocturne flicker]

Physics and engineering are different with their expectations

[grand kernel]

i was also expected to show algebra for those but i didn't go very high level

just GE requirements

well i took 1 grad level EE class

but physics i took lower div undergrad stuff only

guess i'll be a CS MS student soon so i'll find out what i can and can't get away with at that level

i prefer writing out all the algebra anyway though

easier to check work and find mistakes

and i check my work obsessively

[worthy meteor]

Yea actually writing out the algebra is still a very good idea to check your work afterwards

[grand kernel]

even if i'm gonna toss it into something like wolfram alpha i will also check its work myself lol

what if i input something wrong

[worthy meteor]

Especially for that too

[grand kernel]

esp if it's like an online assignment where credit is either 100 or 0

hate those

[worthy meteor]

But sometimes there are really annoying integrals where solving the integral isn't the point of the problem, or the point of the class

[grand kernel]

for sure

even in my lower div physics stuff you were expected to be proficient in calc 3 already

it was a prereq so... makes sense lol

[worthy meteor]

In my current thermal and statistical physics course, I honestly think we have simplifications for every single integral we come across

[grand kernel]

makes sense

are you in grad school?

[worthy meteor]

Where the point isn't to solve the integral, it's to get to that integral and just plug it in

Nah undergrad, going into grad school next year

[grand kernel]

i see

physics major?

or some kind of engineering

[grand kernel]

oh that's neat

[worthy meteor]

Computer engineering with a minor in semiconductor engineering lol

[grand kernel]

i see

i was debating going CE for my MS

[worthy meteor]

What part are you interested in? I'm going to be doing MS in CE lol

[grand kernel]

well too late now

the part i was most interested in was that i know someone at WD that said he can guarantee me a good job if i get an MS in CE lol

[worthy meteor]

Lmao

Hey you should give me that referral

[grand kernel]

but yeah idk if i would succeed in that major cause the preparation is a bit different

do you live in my area

[worthy meteor]

I find CE is a lot more doing and less theory

[grand kernel]

oh yeah my school's undergrad CS program was apparently notoriously theory heavy

[worthy meteor]

I hated the one required CS theory course with turing machines CFGs and that kinda stuff

[grand kernel]

most of my classes we wrote 0 lines of code for the whole quarter

[grand kernel]

automata theory lol

yep

also my least favorite class

our prof was extremely passionate about it which is cool and all

but that also meant his standards for us were eye wateringly high

[worthy meteor]

Idk I have 0 passion for it lol

[grand kernel]

we got a take home final exam because the standard 3 hour time slot was "not enough"

so we had to deal with a 40 hour long final exam during the same week that other classes are wrapping up final projects and we gotta study for their finals too

class average was 40%

curved thankfully 💀

[worthy meteor]

Takehome exams are so horrendous most of the time

[grand kernel]

yep

[worthy meteor]

Except for the mems fabrication course I'm taking rn lol

[grand kernel]

it was 3 proofs

each about some kind of turing machine with a modification the prof came up with for that exam specifically

like prove something about decidability for this language given a turing machine with some limited capability for time travel

🤣

[worthy meteor]

Lmao

[grand kernel]

open internet not helping you for that one bruh

[worthy meteor]

Idk time travel could be the solution for all NP problems :p

[grand kernel]

even LLMs might struggle with that/hallucinate something

cause it's probably not in their training data

[worthy meteor]

Yea lmao

[grand kernel]

it was like a really specific well defined limitation but i don't recall details at this point

but it definitely wasn't "time travel to solve anything"

i think it was a language we had already proven was undecidable in a previous assignment and we had to prove whether or not it was still undecidable with this additional limited time travel

[worthy meteor]

The only thing I roughly remember about my final for that class was something about n-coloring

[grand kernel]

oh fun

[worthy meteor]

I would've only barely passed that class if it wasn't curved so hard lol

[grand kernel]

idk if anyone would have passed our class without the curve

[worthy meteor]

It was like a +25 flat to all exams

[grand kernel]

given the 40% class average on a final worth like 55% of the grade

class averages were diabolically low on basically every major required class

[worthy meteor]

There have been a ton of classes with ~50% averages on midterms/finals ime

[grand kernel]

i transfered in from CC that didn't have curves

got nervous when i saw i got 65% on a midterm in my first quarter

turns out 65% was the highest grade in the class and got curved to A+

class average was 30% lol

that class was brutal i was eating like 5 meals a week cause i had to choose between spending time on eating and sleeping

sometimes an extra hour of sleep was more appealing than food

[worthy meteor]

There was a diabolical question on my computer organization midterm a month ago where it asked you to write out what memory addresses you should access and what to look for in order to determine the cache size, way, associative, etc of a black box cache implementation lol

[grand kernel]

fun

[worthy meteor]

It's so hard to think about how to interface with it even if you know how it works lol

[grand kernel]

i think i inadvertently created one of the questions on my operating systems final

[worthy meteor]

And honestly that's the classic engineering dilemma

[grand kernel]

they were talking about CPU schedulers

in discussion

and the TA is like

well the CPU cores are all the same architecture

i was like what about the new intel chips with e-cores

they were like

wtf? what are you talking about

a cpu with 2 different core architectures?

[worthy meteor]

No more round robin scheduling

[grand kernel]

so i told them to look up intel 12th gen/alder lake

then on our final exam

"explain how you would implement a cpu scheduler for the intel core i5-1235u with hybrid architecture awareness"

2p8e cpu

[worthy meteor]

Lol

[grand kernel]

my bad guys.

[slate fractal]

i kill chat all the time its cool

[worthy meteor]

My operating systems final was too boring compared to that considering I don't remember anything from it lol

[grand kernel]

my operating systems prof was infamous

really good lecturer though

[worthy meteor]

Same lmao

[grand kernel]

first time in my life i managed to make it through a lecture without getting distracted cause it was that interesting

my adhd was undiagnosed at that time

[worthy meteor]

Maybe that's a prerequisite for operating systems professors

[grand kernel]

lectures were not recorded and anything mentioned in lecture at any point during the quarter was fair game to be on the final

no slides either it was just him talking and writing on a chalkboard

exams were unlimited open notes

this was the cheat sheet i brought in lol

[worthy meteor]

Exact same thing for us, except the lectures are recorded, but only for students with excused absences from the dean lol

[grand kernel]

narrow margins 7pt font

[worthy meteor]

We were limited to one sheet of handwritten paper though, apparently the year before someone printed like 20 pages worth on one sheet of paper

[grand kernel]

i think it was like 250 pages if i put it in MLA format

oh yeah, my physics prof had a 1 sheet of handwritten paper policy

i am able to write legibly at the equivalent of like 4pt font

challenge accepted

[worthy meteor]

I had an EE course that was limited to only one note card and handwritten only lol

[grand kernel]

i got every formula and theorem ever used in the semester onto that page and still had enough space leftover for about half of the homework questions fully worked out

he inspected all the cheatsheets before the exam and when he got to me he was just like bro wtf

lmao

we were chill though

i built him a pc

[worthy meteor]

Real chill

[grand kernel]

one time my friend took home 5 office pcs that his work was about to toss out

offered me 1 in exchange for helping him fix the thermals on the other 4

we were in the same physics class

so there i was, delidding 5x i7-6700Ks in the middle of physics lecture

look at this incredible thermal paste application

pc lived like this for 6? years

[worn night]

bro already took the ram lol

[grand kernel]

nah i took it out to get it out of the way when taking the cooler off

i always do that

cause imagine your hand slips and you just snap the ram right out of the slot or something

they were 5 complete pcs, just thermal throttling to hell and back

[worthy meteor]

That reminds me, I had a communication networks prof that worked as a network administrator at one of the UC schools iirc, the school wanted to stop people from gaming on campus wifi, but just blocking the specific games never worked, so they just started purposefully dropping packets without blocking anything and reportedly they saw a lot less gaming traffic on their network lol

[grand kernel]

they actually had 32gb ram each

[grand kernel]

oh also had really scratched up cases

i ended up spray painting mine

tossed a gtx 1060 in there that barely fit

[worthy meteor]

I hope that wasn't your installation :p

[grand kernel]

of course not

it was at 81C in bios before i got my hands on it

afterwards 34C

the paste under the IHS was completely cooked

i guess running at borderline 100C for 6 years probably accelerates that

[grand kernel]

actually genius

although... blocking games on campus wifi is kind of strange

makes sense for grade school but if someone got 3 hours between lectures and nothing better to do why not let them game

[worthy meteor]

Idk, it was like 10 years ago and apparently the request came from the school administration lol

[grand kernel]

wack

[prisma juniper]

Fellas, ~$120, ssd harddrive, longevity, speed, reliability, 2TB, pls help me out <@&525119001324683264>

[topaz crown]

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[grand kernel]

you're gonna have to choose one between $120 and 2tb

it's not 2024 anymore

[worthy meteor]

Yea uh unfortunately ssd prices kinda doubled in the last year

[prisma juniper]

are u fr

fuhhhh

[grand kernel]

you can barely get 1tb for $120 lol

[prisma juniper]

what would you recommend for me then, i have this poop ass HDD thats slow asf

[grand kernel]

actually

you just can't

[prisma juniper]

i wanna upgrade

[grand kernel]

https://sp-siliconpower.com/products/silicon-power-p34a60-1tb-nvme-pcie-gen3x4-m-2-2280-internal-solid-state-drive

cheapest 1tb nvme that won't give you a disease from using it

[worthy meteor]

Uh

Is that cad?

$160 kinda crazy still

[grand kernel]

nope usd

$133

silicon power is the goat

https://sp-siliconpower.com/products/silicon-power-ud90-2tb-pcie-nvme-gen4x4-m-2-2280-internal-solid-state-drive

[worthy meteor]

Oh didn't see the coupon

[grand kernel]

get this one if you want a decent 2tb

[worthy meteor]

Man are we actually back to p34a60 xd

[grand kernel]

first option is ~$120 and second option is 2tb

your call

[worthy meteor]

This is like the 3 year old choice

[grand kernel]

well your only other option at this price is a kingspec 2242 gen 3

i'd take the p34a60 lol

i'd rather go 1tb ud90 for $145 than 1tb p34a60 for $133 but both are already above the stated budget so...

[grand kernel]

on the bright side

tried and tested

🙂

[worthy meteor]

I'm realizing 2020 is 6 years ago and this is a 6+ year old choice xdd

[grand kernel]

yup

i remember it being around when i first got into the hobby

[worthy meteor]

I remember when you had to specify p32a60 or p34a60

[grand kernel]

okay unc

[worthy meteor]

Smh you got into it same time I did

[grand kernel]

i don't remember a p32a60 tbh

doesn't show up on pcpp

i remember p34a60 vs. p34a80

[worthy meteor]

You can find it on the SSD sheet

[heady plinth]

Tried and tested? Both of them have several versions where they swap the controller and flash. I think they dropped the A60 1tb down to liek 100tbw which is crucial e100 levels of embarrassingly bad. When I go to check I just get this though.

[grand kernel]

wow how obscure is this ssd

there's literally 1 result for it on google

[queen briar]

@icy ore Get in here

you can lose any other time.

[worthy meteor]

There was a time when both were under the name a60 and you had to click on the listing to tell

[grand kernel]

how picky do you wanna get when the p34a60 is already 10% above budget

would you prefer this guy

[heady plinth]

If they expect to get a 2tb for $120 I think they need to adjust their expectations not buy something out of the junk drawer.

[grand kernel]

sir

that's 1tb for $133

lol

that's also the first thing i said

"junk drawer" is also certainly a choice of words

[heady plinth]

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/samsung-geek-squad-certified-refurbished-990-evo-plus-ssd-1tb-pcie-gen-4x4--5x2-m-2-2280-speeds-up-to-7150-mb-s/JCQ6HKYV84 I'd just take my chances on a used one at that point. And I really don't like used ssds.

[worthy meteor]

you know it's well tried and tested when the hardware variations are well documented smh

[grand kernel]

site works for me

says 300tb tbw for the 1tb model

[worthy meteor]

I'd be more confident that p34a60 comes in one of three hardware variations than one of ??? for something like timetec

[grand kernel]

i'd take a new p34a60 over a refurb 990 evo plus but we can agree to disagree on that

i don't have too much faith in geek squad's definition of refurb

[worthy meteor]

does bestbuy rely on geek squad for refurb? would've assumed they would ship it off for someone else to do it for them

personally I'd take refurb 990 tbf

[grand kernel]

idk says geek squad certified refurb

ive seen one too many teardowns of geek squad certified refurb to trust that

[heady plinth]

There isn't really anything to do to refurb one. They'd just check functionality and say it's refurbished. It's not like a laptop or something where they're going to fail to clean the fans or some bare minimum you'd expect.

[grand kernel]

if there's solder points, there's something to screw up

[icy ore]

would love to, tonight just not a good night, but i'll try to watch it and then we can do the 2nd one another night

[worthy meteor]

I mean there aren't that much that can screw up a used drive in recent years

we're far past chia

it's just handling that's a factor

[grand kernel]

if i'm talking about buying for myself i'll chance the refurb cause i can put it through its paces

i've bought used ssds before even when chia was a thing

been fine

not gonna recommend it to everyone though

i don't want to be responsible for that lol

[worthy meteor]

fair

[heady plinth]

It's also returnable, you can just check the writes in smart and take it back if it's unreasonable.

[worthy meteor]

That's my stance for used but with refurb at least you have a large company with at least a reputation they (theoretically) would like to uphold, so you can always yell at them somehow

[grand kernel]

refurb 90 day warranty vs new 5 year warranty i know which one i'm recommending

theoretically is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

💀

[worthy meteor]

actually I'm not familiar with best buy refurb policies but generally they give you 1 year warranty

[grand kernel]

smart data can be wiped/spoofed

[grand kernel]

it says 90 days on the listing

[worthy meteor]

usually that's the return/replacement window

[grand kernel]

90 day warranty doesn't lend too much confidence

[worthy meteor]

oop

[heady plinth]

It's probably just a return and that's how they are restocking it.

[grand kernel]

sure

[nocturne flicker]

SMART data can also be borked. My readings for all of my drives have been at 99% or 100% despite some of them failing and being used frequently enough that it should've eroded it a bit

[grand kernel]

do you want to be the one to take responsibility when it isn't

[worthy meteor]

It can also just be misread, I still remember having a 256gb drive that had smart data that said it had petabytes written lol

[heady plinth]

I wouldn't buy either but if I had to pick between the two I think it's an easy choice.

[grand kernel]

like i said

it's an easy choice if i'm buying for myself

it's a different easy choice if i'm recommending it to someone else

[heady plinth]

If you want something cheap and don't have a time machine to go back 6 months or more then you're going to have to settle for something.

[grand kernel]

especially a stranger who is not an enthusiast

well yes

either way is a settle

[worthy meteor]

anyways I'd say p34a60 is the safe baseline choice, 990 evo plus is something I'd personally gamble on but I'd try to find out more about the warranty first

[grand kernel]

interesting

still 100%

only 175 unsafe shutdowns

i'm getting soft on my hardware

[worthy meteor]

I've hammered mine way more

[grand kernel]

my used sn770

there's a ridiculous amount of air moving across this drive

3x bottom intake + 3x gpu fans lol

[worthy meteor]

my mp44 on the backside of my board lol

literally 0 airflow

[grand kernel]

damn

bro has a 4tb nvme

get him

[heady plinth]

This motherboard has a pretty big heatsink built in.

[grand kernel]

sell it and retire before you graduate

🤣

[worthy meteor]

And I mean it when I say literally 0 airflow, there's nothing that could possibly be giving it airflow

[grand kernel]

ayo

dusting time

[worthy meteor]

yea I've realized I never cleaned off the PSU side

I dusted off the front side about a month ago

forgor there were anything on this side

[grand kernel]

psu fan theoretically might be blowing a little bit of air across it

[worthy meteor]

nah the case side panel is flush against it

[grand kernel]

depends on what's underneath that metal bar lol

ah

i was thinking something like

[worthy meteor]

well actually it's possible that something from the front might be pulling air through this side

It's a hyte h1

revolt 3

idk why I said h1

nzxt h1 was what I was thinking

[grand kernel]

bruh where did ms paint move brush size to

[worthy meteor]

right there?

[grand kernel]

i was thinking something like this

if it's not solid metal there

and the psu has vent holes facing that direction

that air probably doesn't get warm enough that it wouldn't help cool the ssd

[heady plinth]

I'd assume the psu vent is on the right or the top.

[worthy meteor]

nah the PSU vents up top iirc

I think this might be possible with negative pressure though

[worn night]

techie promotion when 🔥

[velvet summit]

[worn wave]

VIP

[worn night]

ive been here for so much longer but I rejoined at one point

i swear id be higher

but, I have proven to "know my tech".. right

Maybe

I did become a pc building expert after all

6_devious_sd

[nocturne flicker]

Show proof. Mandatory test, you have 5 seconds to study

Alright

Question 1

[worn night]

bet gimme the test

[nocturne flicker]

What is the velocity of an unladen gpu

[worn night]

0

cause its not moving'

bigbrain

[nocturne flicker]

Hmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

If presented with a question of Nvidia or AMD gpu with no specific model mention, what is the appropriate response.

[worn night]

Do you just game or are you a content creator

[nocturne flicker]

Hmmmmmmm

[grand kernel]

what is your favorite flavor of thermal paste

[nocturne flicker]

^

[worn night]

Arctic mx-6

[grand kernel]

wrong answer

no techie for you

[upper wedge]

personally straight thermal paste mixed with a bit of socket pins

[grand kernel]

go study

[worn night]

but its an opinionated question nuh uh

[upper wedge]

he didnt ask type

he asked flavor

[grand kernel]

it's an objective question with one correct answer

[worn night]

mx-6 can be considered a flavor

[nocturne flicker]

You aren't supposed to deny the answer immediately, you are supposed to give a nonresponse and let him build hope before brutally crushing it at the end

[upper wedge]

give me that tester role 🙋‍♂️

[worn night]

oh am I supposed to say "you cant eat it" or smth

[worn night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1484022923139223754/1496345315475853512/Recording_2026-04-21_215950.gif

[nocturne flicker]

Also answer to question two was wrong, you've failed

[upper wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249185495402025021/1272135509052882997/togif.gif

[grand kernel]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0kMeTshWWf-wUAmIHyaQYVmONPS0dp4ogGWhOJaToAoBPQ-xX-lU2sxmY&s=10

[worn night]

no it wasnt

[nocturne flicker]

Yes it was

[grand kernel]

smh my head

[worn night]

you trolling

[nocturne flicker]

The answer is

Actually incorrect response from you

So sad

[worn night]

that makes no sense

[nocturne flicker]

Model is more important than brand

[worn night]

you shouldnt try providing a model until they specify what they do

if theyre a casual gamer then you can suggest mid range gpus

[nocturne flicker]

You ask what models they are considering after stating that is more important

[grand kernel]

I mean asking use case is a valid response 100% of the time

so I disagree

what if their use case is cuda

[worn night]

boom

[grand kernel]

brand matters more than model there

[nocturne flicker]

Okay. Now they were considering a gt 1030 and a 9700xt

[grand kernel]

I mean... if they must use cuda

[bitter ridge]

Saw the gn video and was really put off by some of the lobbying and donations they were doing

[grand kernel]

gt 1030 wins

[worn night]

yeah amd doesnt have cuda

[grand kernel]

cuda alternatives exist but there are situations where you're not allowed to choose them freely

[worn night]

also its *9070xt

[worthy meteor]

the correct answer is nt-h2

[grand kernel]

also they're still not as good as cuda

[nocturne flicker]

Yeah sorry

[worn night]

mods revoke his techie

[nocturne flicker]

I'm trying to get dogs inside the house rn

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-other-mods-other-mods-revoke-his-mod-mods-revoke-his-mod-low-tier-god-gif-6016019212179330222

[worthy meteor]

see, you don't understand

[grand kernel]

I can't

he bribed me with a gt 1030 for cuda

[worthy meteor]

anyways unfortunately you kinda need Nvidia for a lot of AI applications

[grand kernel]

what if my use case is running a single game with physx maxed

[worn night]

all of which stems from the question of "What will you be doing" which also stems from what I answered with so I was right

[grand kernel]

[worn night]

4090 🔥🔥🔥

[grand kernel]

can't go radeon or nvidia 50 series

[worthy meteor]

lmao

didn't they reenable it though

[nocturne flicker]

I thought ZLUDA had already closed the gap for CUDA

[grand kernel]

partially

as in, for some games only

not sure how that works

wonder if it's some kind of emulation

[nocturne flicker]

Infact isn't ZLUDA working on physx support now?

I thought I remembered reading something about that a bit ago

[worthy meteor]

they're still currently actively working on pytorch for example

half the things straight up don't work yet

[grand kernel]

i don't think using zluda is something you can recommend to everyone

and also yeah

the gap is not closed

[nocturne flicker]

Oh. I haven't really kept up with ZLUDA close enough then

[queen briar]

@dusk knot yes

[nocturne flicker]

@dusk knot No

[grand kernel]

even if functionality was 1:1 this would not fly for a lot of people

[bitter ridge]

Dk how long it can do it but 5070 at least for now seems to be able to handle most games with a 4k output

[worn night]

@dusk knot Yesn't

but why

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-users-modded-discord-betterdiscord-hacked-discord-gif-25859954

[bitter ridge]

Inevitable ban Incoming ?

[nocturne flicker]

Smh my head

[worn night]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1342207298222686329.gif?size=160&name=Speed+Shocked&lossless=true

[elfin mural]

https://www.techpowerup.com/348400/no-ryzen-9950x3d2-for-techpowerup-gamers-nexus-or-computerbase

amd is hiding something

even techpowerup is denied of a review sample of the new cpu

[worn night]

ok things just got real-er

[elfin mural]

they're deliberately avoiding in-depth reviewers

[worn night]

they also denied a sample to LTT

[elfin mural]

yeah

this is not a blacklist at this point

but a PR move

but why hide when the cpu is so good?

probably to avoid comments like "but it's so expensive, just buy 9850x3d or something"

[grand kernel]

it was obvious how the 9950x3d2 was gonna pan out in gaming anyway

now they're adding bad PR to the mix

9950x3d2 probably just shouldn't have existed

[elfin mural]

yeah

[grand kernel]

not really worth even reviewing for gaming outside of "yeah this confirms what was expected"

I think amd didn't even market it for gaming

[elfin mural]

it's just a workstation cpu with the ability to game on the side

but avoiding reviews is a bad look

not that it matters

cuz buyers for these cpus are either people who actually benefit from it in their career

or just someone who's got a huge budget and wants to flex on others

[proud jackal]

i need it right guys?

[worn night]

no I need it

[dusk knot]

no I need it

[upper wedge]

no I need it

[bitter ridge]

It is a 3090ti type of product which is fine if the bad pr didn't go along with it

[wary fjord]

I think.. They did it for a meme . Most of people knows the result aint that big. They tried it before right? XD the gain not much.. its not a "big leap" or something.. not worth reviewing.

[dusk knot]

no PFP. ohno

[bitter ridge]

Performance between a 9950x3d and Threadripper 9960x and pricing is also inbetween those two

[elfin mural]

makes logical sense

the bad pr is just kinda ruining it

[wary fjord]

I'll have new one soon.. haven't found new one yet.. quite contradictory.. but ill find a cool one soon.

[dusk knot]

oh great, I thought it was the first sign to leaving wegg

🙃

[wary fjord]

I dont leave.. i just fade.. xD but for now i just lurk.. still waiting for people to past at me at ranks.

[wary fjord]

Will u recommend it? just for display or something?

Collection of amd memes

[dusk knot]

its going to take me a year or so to do that

[elfin mural]

i guess?

if you have the $900 to spend to add to the collection

[random osprey]

someone will pass tomie in level, then tomie will come back and reclaim number 1 by 100 levels and leave again 🗿

[nocturne flicker]

They are deliberately avoiding everyone at this point

[elfin mural]

real

[wary fjord]

No worries xD stimulus got you covered

Jk dont use stimulus for that reason.. use it for food

[bitter ridge]

Hwub got one though so it seems to be utterly random

[elfin mural]

it's like they're asking chatgpt to do pr

[nocturne flicker]

They fired the marketing and PR team for more AI datacenter advocates

Frfr

[wary fjord]

Chatgpt has new feature.. a fake screenshot . U guys seen it?

[elfin mural]

more fake slop

nice

[bitter ridge]

Yes I have seen it generating signed checks

[wary fjord]

I dont know who needs that feature... 😂 Criminal minded?

Ai receipt

[elfin mural]

this feature will be a banger for criminals

old people watch out

[bitter ridge]

This is generated

[elfin mural]

what

that looks real

[wary fjord]

Forgery is so basic on this era

Back in my day ..m

[elfin mural]

okay im never gonna leave online banking

even if it's not the best option, at least i can verify in seconds

[nocturne flicker]

Man I really hope someone would step in and start regulating these things so that they won't blatantly just roll out features for wide scale theft and fraud, surely someone will eventually say enough is enough

[elfin mural]

if anything it might be the EU

[wary fjord]

They hit u by.. "just wait for it.. it will go through...".. Now u need to play mind games.. should u trust or nah?

Takes 3-5 business days

Then it bounce

[nocturne flicker]

Oh wait, crypto is still pretty much completely unregulated despite only being either a speculative asset scam or a way of transfering dark money? Nevermind then

[wary fjord]

[elfin mural]

i will wait but check the notification every day lol

if there's no transfer, there's nothing

but i fear for old people

they're gonna get scammed harder than before

[wary fjord]

Yeah profit go brrr

By "do not redeem" people

[worn night]

it looks so real

we're cooked

[nocturne flicker]

The other day I noticed an old guy had an extremely high amount of store rewards points on his card, to the tune of having to spend 22k+. I look up his history and he spends about $3k a month every month on Apple gift cards. In cash

[elfin mural]

wow

[nocturne flicker]

Man is absolutely getting scammed

[wary fjord]

Deym

[elfin mural]

rich old people getting drained is sad and funny

[wary fjord]

3k a month thata just new pc a month

[elfin mural]

or a car payment for a luxury car

[nocturne flicker]

The thing is that I don't think he was even rich, he dressed like a poor and had a worn down car, I think he's just draining his retirement fund

[elfin mural]

oh damn

that's even worse

[wary fjord]

Wellfer check that guy

Is he ok

[queen briar]

i that that said " welfare check that guy "

[wary fjord]

Maybe he just really like apple

[nocturne flicker]

A welfare check is what Tomie means

Otherwise known as a wellness check

[queen briar]

i meant welfare as in like... EBT

[elfin mural]

ehh??

circular keys on a laptop

[nocturne flicker]

It is the same word

Confusing as heck

English is such a wonderful language

[queen briar]

latops have always had a circlular key

it called the power button

[elfin mural]

but mine is a triangle

[bitter ridge]

Looks like the definition of form over function

[queen briar]

... damn linux users

[nocturne flicker]

Doesn't look too wild. Typewriter-esque keys are all the rage with hipsters or something I dunno

[wary fjord]

Fancy digital type writer u have there

[elfin mural]

even weirder is, only the colorful colorways of this matebook are offered with such keys

the silver/gray colorway has traditional keys

[queen briar]

nothing pisses me off more than keyboard modders

[wary fjord]

Why?

[queen briar]

its unnatural.

[nocturne flicker]

Wuh

None of this is natural

These are PCs and peripherals

[queen briar]

when a keyboard grows on a tree, it has only 3 colors, carbon black, grey or white

[wary fjord]

What you mean 😨

[elfin mural]

same laptop, different color

but keys are normal

[bitter ridge]

He makes some decent points

[nocturne flicker]

The color ones are supposed to be quirky and show off your personality, why not have wacky key shapes

[elfin mural]

it just makes no sense in a production standpoint

[queen briar]

this is cool but no... cant use it

[nocturne flicker]

I know

[elfin mural]

but i guess the aesthetics makes up for it

[queen briar]

this just sickenss me

[bitter ridge]

Many people dk Samsung makes laptop so that division of theirs could use some work

[nocturne flicker]

Zac doesn't like neon orange keybs

[elfin mural]

samsung used to sell laptops here in like 2011-2013?

[queen briar]

ORANGE CREAM ANYTHIGN IS DISGUSTING AND IT SHOULD BE BANNED

[elfin mural]

i saw stuff with sandy bridge and HD 7670M

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-11650643656289713807

But I like orange cream pops

[elfin mural]

would it be too much to say that i wish that orange laptops were a thing

[nocturne flicker]

[queen briar]

and you should be banned for it

[elfin mural]

oh wait, the ibook g3

[queen briar]

origin PC

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-scroll-crying-depression-doomscrolling-gif-4138822033792608878

[queen briar]

wtf is this

[worn night]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1342207298222686329.gif?size=160&name=Speed+Shocked&lossless=true

[nocturne flicker]

Top banan

[elfin mural]

so orange

[queen briar]

omfg

[elfin mural]

cnbc keyboard

[nocturne flicker]

Well at least we know who buys them

[bitter ridge]

They should add Asus here

Crew 1 dies so crew 2 could survive ig

[queen briar]

WHY DOES THIS EXIST

[wary fjord]

Aesthetic

[queen briar]

jesus, its like watching korean street food vendors on youtube.

[wary fjord]

It should match your room theme

[queen briar]

they make the most delicous looking burger, and then they addl ike 1/2 of ketcup and soy sauce on top

[bitter ridge]

A lot of people spend their entire days in front of a keyboard so would make sense they would want it to look nicer

[queen briar]

https://tenor.com/view/gioated-family-guy-peter-griffin-crazy-straightjacket-gif-20619219

[bitter ridge]

I would like a carbon fiber looking keyboard but I can't find any

[queen briar]

oh god... i got to the azure lane section

and all the keys have their feet...

thats it, im logging off

[nocturne flicker]

How do you feel about this. It is a bit tame but I personally hate it

[worn night]

blegh

my grandma has one like that

fingers can slip off and misclick too easily

and the keys are very elevated

[nocturne flicker]

My mother bought me one for some reason

[worn night]

https://klipy.com/gifs/joe-bartolozzi-bart-fart-1

[nocturne flicker]

I used to use it for my media PC that I was too lazy to keep plugging in the keyb for so I kept it plugged in for that. It feels terrible

[bitter ridge]

I decided to get the new steam controller when it comes out and try using the touchpads to navigate windows

[nocturne flicker]

They are $200 btw

I'm still using my $30 Rosewill crapboard

[velvet summit]

Feeys

[lethal jasper]

Its mid if it doesnt have the real typewriter sounds smh

Should have a speaker that plays the rings every time you press a key and the end of line ding when you press enter

[bitter ridge]

New framework 13 looks pretty sleek but the 16 still plays into all the usual windows laptops stigma

[safe cape]

how much cost now an ultra 5/16ram/512go ssd normal laptop ?

[bitter ridge]

Dk since I am not interested in buying framework stuff

[safe cape]

okey

[bitter ridge]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/amd-deploys-war-room-to-monitor-our-website-for-leaks

[cedar compass]

SO AMD Stopped replying to riviewers in genreal I think . i just watched GN review about new cpu and he also mentioned AMD didn't reply them lol

[outer urchin]

I feel like its always cold and it looks like a type writer

[velvet summit]

if it doesn't have the actuation force of a mechanical typewriter i don't want it

[bitter ridge]

Also looks like a nightmare for people with big hands

[velvet summit]

if it's the same size as a regular keyboard, then it wouldnt be much different

round keys are not that much smaller (surface area) than regular square shaped keys

[hidden scroll]

Well life sucks but I’ve likely just lost $180 on a plane I really wanted because of negligence

First I put my address in wrong, but when I reach out to the courier they use nothing but AI to respond to me, and even that takes over 12 hours per message, and on a whim I looked them up on Trustpilot, and found a 1.2 star rating

[prisma juniper]

yall 😢 why are ssd prices so high

[elfin mural]

ai datacenters

[sinful blade]

Storage/cpus/ram/gpus***
all can be used in that sentence

[craggy shoal]

You forgot GPUs btw

Also, make sure to include GPUs

Did you know that they also steal GPUs from normal people?

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LtYgNxfIJeM

apparently some lg oleds can turn off when a bright white flash is displayed

such as flashbangs in fps games

[unreal trail]

kek

[elfin mural]

https://sheets.works/data-viz/keyboard-sounds

this site is cool as hell

[rancid juniper]

From garbage to trash, got it

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/3fs-pants-down-pants-slip-silly-the-remnants-of-tubby-land-gif-7679945058777487470

Halo Studios 343 trying to follow industry trends instead of making a good game has to be the most unsurprising thing

[bitter ridge]

https://wccftech.com/former-amd-fsr-lead-drops-big-trouble-meme-when-pressed-on-why-fsr-4-still-wont-run-on-rdna-2-3/

Expected

Vivo put out an update on my brother's phone and now his phone has an apple like dynamic island despite the phone being an LCD and not an OLED

[elfin mural]

everyone wants to use the dynamic island feature

it's useful depending on implementation, but yeah

kinda silly that it's on lcd phones too

[bitter ridge]

https://wccftech.com/intel-wildcat-lake-laptop-direct-aim-macbook-neo-aluminum-body-breezy-colors-fanless-mode/

Getting rid of the fan is exactly what many people were hoping for

[elfin mural]

im just worried that it wouldn't be able to last on windows for long

2 xe cores, likely weaker than the neo's gpu

but damn, the intel prototype laptop is a macbook copy through and through

[nocturne flicker]

I wasn't hoping for it

The bottom tier machines are very uninteresting in general imo

Oooooo fanless, brother I keep a deskfan on 24/7 you think a laptop fan bothers me

Though the fanless is more like we have a fanless mode when the laptop is limited to 11 watts, not actually a fanless laptop

[elfin mural]

and i doubt windows office laptop users care about fan noise much

[nocturne flicker]

Also 2p cores will end up being ewaste very quickly

[elfin mural]

since laptops have gotten pretty quiet doing not much

some of em can legit do work without the fan ever kicking on

[bitter ridge]

The e cores are zen 3 ipc iirc so not really worried about that

[elfin mural]

zen 3 ipc? i hope perf doesn't take a major cliff doing web browsing

i have zen 3+ and forcing it at 11w.. didn't go very well

things slowed down a lot

[elfin mural]

huh??

that's rather unexpected to me to see a remaster

[nocturne flicker]

This has been the most purposefully leaked remaster since video games have started being remastered

[proud jackal]

https://youtu.be/RDpBuiu0ql8?si=G4OfBm184oeZbTtz

[elfin mural]

well i guess i have been under a rock

[nocturne flicker]

Yeah Theo, don't buy

[elfin mural]

only 6% uplift in workstation perf is just sad for 30% more money compared to the normal 9950x3d

dual ccd is still not good for gaming, who would've thought?

[bitter ridge]

A very fan service like product

[nocturne flicker]

Okay but what if they add a 3rd ccd with vcache for $2k

[elfin mural]

isn't that an eypc?

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe I dunno

[elfin mural]

the epyc cpus lack 3d cache but they do utilize multiple ccds with more than 2 of em in a cpu

[bitter ridge]

Ryzen 5 will be upgraded to 8 cores with zen 6 iirc so that is when we get the good stuff

[elfin mural]

and price is probably gonna be jacked up

[bitter ridge]

Launch MSRP ? Most likely

[nocturne flicker]

Ryzen 5 10500X at $400

10600X will launch a year later at $499

If you aren't chronically abusing your customers are you even a company?

[upper rain]

Crestmont or Skymont?

[upper rain]

Skymont is closer to Zen 4 IPC tbh

[worn night]

I had a weird dream, in it I was building a pc on am4

[velvet summit]

meanwhile mine kicking on even on idle 😔

even when brand new

[worn night]

But when I installed the cpu the text was facing me instead of facing right so I knew then that i was dreaming

Then I woke up

[velvet summit]

i am so ready to switch to panther lake
i need a laptop that does not run the fan on idle please

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[sinful blade]

Got the discord for industry mods back up and running

We gaming

Finding new ways to punish @opaque sedge for DN jokes and @worn night for his crimes

[worn night]

Yo what crimes did I commit bro 🙏

I’m innocent

[rancid juniper]

This sucks: https://thehackernews.com/2026/04/bitwarden-cli-compromised-in-ongoing.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1stjtay/bitwarden_cli_has_been_compromised_check_your/

https://community.bitwarden.com/t/bitwarden-statement-on-checkmarx-supply-chain-incident/96127

[royal crow]

Aw hell nah free my bro

He aint dun nun

[bitter ridge]

Darkmont low power

[elfin mural]

i like the little rebar on disclaimer

at least it tells users that arc gpus require rebar

[unreal trail]

I can run it close enough to extreme

extreme visuals at 1440p

[velvet summit]

good thing it was just the cli which i don't use

[rancid juniper]

same

[queen briar]

why did you remind me of this

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-burnt-peanut-burntpeanut-theburntpeanut-rage-tarkov-gif-12064530684685202490

[queen briar]

i keep getting stupid custom key website ads now

[opaque sedge]

U talking abt me right?

[opaque sedge]

Man I would be interested in the game if they dont require us to use that shitty ubisoft app

[royal crow]

Nah we puttin u in a dungeon fr

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peanut-burnt-peanut-reaction-peanut-react-peanut-sheep-gif-3444210561035028514

[royal crow]

Bluh why the peanut so much😭

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-burnt-peanut-burnt-peanut-gif-12352143607680424569

[queen briar]

i mean, the simple answer is to make reactions and gifs nitro user only

[nocturne flicker]

We know what you did

[opaque sedge]

Fr tho what did he do?

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-pain-scream-screaming-gif-11380082828166253172

[worn night]

I AIN’T DONE NUN

[royal crow]

Crimes

Devious

[worn night]

https://klipy.com/gifs/beware-of-the-blud-who-speaks-in-mustard-kendrick-lamar

[nocturne flicker]

I'm glad you haven't done a nun

[worn night]

Ok bro chill

[queen briar]

he eats pineapple on pizza

[royal crow]

Damn dyno got dementia

[bitter ridge]

Rip

[royal crow]

It's good I dont understand what you people are on about

[opaque sedge]

Well shit

[royal crow]

Pineapple or not though we have a common enemy

[nocturne flicker]

Pineapple isn't good to begin with and now you want to ruin pizza with it

[elfin mural]

so fsr 4 is dead in the water

[opaque sedge]

What

[elfin mural]

sadge

[opaque sedge]

Pineapple’s great

[royal crow]

Pineapple is so good bruh

[nocturne flicker]

I can't stand pineapple

[opaque sedge]

And the console brands are gonna hijack rdna now

https://tenor.com/view/mike-o-heam-giga-chad-gigachad-sigma-male-gif-14252379233135682789

[elfin mural]

console brands use their own upscaling

[royal crow]

Duality of man

[elfin mural]

they don't hijack fsr or do they need to