general-chat

[velvet summit]

Wait

Why does that thing say indoor humidity but not indoor temperature

Unless indoor humidity is something different

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDSZOXGP2Nw&t

very cool that this company actually improved their qc

[random osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ibuypower-csgo-cs-throw-steel-gif-1712206470325740280

[ashen swan]

how big is ibuypower

Compare to Razer (or vise versa)

[random osprey]

there were one of if not the biggest prebuilt gaming pc companies back then

[elfin mural]

ibuypower is pretty large

they also have hyte

that's the scale of their company

[velvet summit]

Razer isn't a system integrator

[elfin mural]

but yeah, razer only really makes laptops at most

[velvet summit]

They do make laptops but not desktops at least last I've seen

[elfin mural]

they're a peripherals company

mostly anyway

[velvet summit]

Peripherals and slop

[random osprey]

dont call my pink cat ears slop 🗿

[elfin mural]

with laptops that break and warranty they won't honor

[velvet summit]

Lmao

[elfin mural]

apparently prebuilts are very popular during times where building pcs gets expensive

tbh im not that surprised

it's natural

[ashen swan]

WHAT

[elfin mural]

why pay more to build when you can pay less or the same amount and get something close enough to what building gets you without touching a single thing

message written in the 2022 press anniversary of the hyte company

[bitter ridge]

Waiting for the mods to come out which increases the sample count for some of these reflections

[bitter ridge]

Asus and Alienware would be more valid comparisons

[ashen swan]

using my macbook air is weird as a output

GOD my matorva mouse pad is actuallly so good

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1216106064161018016/1495780393473937520/AQPW_yKSOsGv9PNvj_GoarS6XaytFbJfwwuov0KLuKf2qsz-buWbTluZoUgWJhTEnhfWlVpTfjlucWm5arzSBcn1-yVzse2Qm_xTuPJjLQ.mp4?ex=69e77d8c&is=69e62c0c&hm=f1a19c877cfab66482a9f3cc9c05b6a8213b4c99a4928a81f899a9078a6c1192&

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

Lmao

[ashen swan]

We need a 6060 12gb

[elfin mural]

best they can do is 9gb

[bitter ridge]

6060 would be releasing at a similar timeframe to the PS6 I reckon so would be diabolical if it doesn't have 8gb by then

[ashen swan]

guys

a 7900XT

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[bitter ridge]

A poorly aged gpu

[ashen swan]

is the same price as DDR5 32gb

[ashen swan]

Stilll holds up with Linux and Xess if you need a good upscaling

and opti scaler is there if you need it

[bitter ridge]

Except the 7600xt I think every rdna 3 gpu aged worse than it's GeForce counterpart

7600xt counterpart is 4060 so the bar is the lowest there

[ashen swan]

7700XT has no counterpart and is faster ? then the 5060 ti 16gb

I think I just won't get a GPU for this build

[ancient swift]

9070 XT go brrrrr

[bitter ridge]

Wonder how long Tom's hardware benchmark pass is because the 8gb gpus would run into stutters a few minutes in at those settings

They don't put in the same level of work as Hwub or Daniel Owens do but this just misleading

[ashen swan]

RT On

💀

[ancient swift]

They have path tracing too and that's where Nvidia succeeds

Amd cards don't support path tracing on Pragmata

[ashen swan]

I don't trust tom hardware for GPU benchmark

their really

bad

[ancient swift]

1080p no rt. At 4k the 9070xt and 5080 are basically the same.

[ashen swan]

like use your brain

5060 ti 8gb Over 5060ti 16gb

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/pragmata-performance-benchmark/6.html

okay wait

WAIT

WHAt

[ancient swift]

Use your brain

[ashen swan]

okay

SOMETHING'S OFF

[ancient swift]

If 8gb isn't a limitation, it could be down to the model they used as well as other things.

[ashen swan]

SO a optimized game

LETS GOOOOO

[heavy dew]

guys guess what im bidding on this time

if i told you

you would NEVER EVER believe me

ong no one would believe me if i told them

[ashen swan]

say it

[heavy dew]

ill show you it

https://shopgoodwill.com/item/261138441

PROTOTYPE XBOX ONE

[ashen swan]

neat

[heavy dew]

NO ONE OUTBID ME

I NEEEEEEEED THIS

[safe cape]

storage full with unreleased games

[heavy dew]

IMAGINE

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-rich-daffy-duck-money-gif-10195329

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/future-gen-consels-wii2-ps4-xbox720-i-phone-2-i-box-new-i-pod-wii-phone-gif-14706844956442032772

or its the xbox 720

[heavy dew]

LMAOO FUNNY PS4

[heavy dew]

there mustve been just ONE employee who suggested that and then got immediately fired because bill gates couldnt even come up with an answer

[ashen swan]

Okay

[bitter ridge]

Lol I just found out that I had frame gen 3x on in Pragmata

Didn't even notice it and enjoyed the fluidity

[tranquil pebble]

I doubt you'd get fired over a rejected idea unless the idea was something offensive

otherwise you'd end up with a work culture devoid of any creative thought

(and likely the best talent simply quitting)

[bitter ridge]

It will be interesting to see what the final name of project helix will be called

[grand kernel]

🙁

wonder if it'll be added later

[bitter ridge]

PS6 will be called a ps6 but xbox remains a mystery

[elfin mural]

xbox two

nah idek what the name will be

im just guessing

[tranquil pebble]

What if they just call it "Xbox" lol. Make people even more confused.

[bitter ridge]

The colours are very satisfying to the eye

[elfin mural]

they look like asus miku edition

[elfin mural]

introducing the new xbox

[bitter ridge]

Good value ?

[elfin mural]

eh

[tranquil pebble]

people are probably going to make a lot of itashas in FH6

[elfin mural]

i saw a furry livery in fh4

or a few actually

[tranquil pebble]

I used a Reimu themed Civic Type R in FH4

[dusk knot]

Hhmm

[ancient swift]

Psssh doesn't have all the fancy dev stuff

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-anime-sad-gif-27615865

[dusk knot]

Theo_gigatrillionaire

[proud jackal]

For console*

[dusk knot]

F

The PC release is going to be glorious

[heavy dew]

Forget that, it’s a PROTOTYPE

[rancid juniper]

i dont know if its confirmed or not but i've heard that the pc release is not too far off from launch on consoles which is good

[bitter ridge]

Hope I can seamlessly carry my PS5 pro save to PC when it releases

[bitter ridge]

Only OLED handhelds with that soc iirc but damn

[rancid juniper]

lol

[ancient swift]

Nah that's not the Legion go 2. The go s has a ips display

[dusk knot]

Great

[bitter ridge]

[grand kernel]

I don't see how this isn't dead on arrival

[rancid juniper]

how to make an already niche handheld even more undesirable ✅

[grand kernel]

let's charge $1600 for a weak chip with an outdated cpu and gpu architecture and pair it with a 1200p screen so you can see 6 fps if you try to play anything new

makes sense

hasn't the z1 extreme been out for ages

[bitter ridge]

That makes it more egregious then

[rancid juniper]

yes

[tranquil pebble]

Microslop really put this out after zero day disclosures... class act.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/msrc/blog/2026/04/zero-day-quest-2026-over-2-million-awarded-vulnerability-research

[nocturne flicker]

Wow, congratulations us, we had a bunch of people point out 700 security vulnerabilities in our software and paid them $3285 for each vulnerability

Now we don't have to dedicate teams that we have to pay wages and benefits for to debug and comb through our crap software 😊

[dusk knot]

😊

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amds-latest-fsr-update-hints-at-multi-frame-generation-support

[proud jackal]

[ancient swift]

I'd say the CPU is the least outdated part of it lol. You'll never hit a cpu bottleneck on that thing

[dusk knot]

Always 2 steps behind

[rancid juniper]

90x frame generation

180x hallucination

[tranquil pebble]

cant wait for some indie game to make frame gen quirks as a game mechanic itself lol

[dusk knot]

Fram gen 90 be like

[grand kernel]

i mean it's still 2 architectures old

but yes

you won't hit a cpu bottleneck because the gpu is pathetic

[rancid juniper]

wait, thats kinda unique

👀

[tranquil pebble]

its also the kind of thing some random indie dev would do

[grand kernel]

i understand it's a handheld but for $1600 i think pathetic is the only word that can be used

compared to what $1600 could get you in even a laptop

that's laptop 5070ti territory

[proud jackal]

Do you think 4090 will sell better if I buy $160 in air-cooler shroud and new pads/paste

[grand kernel]

I'd rather have a laptop 5070ti than a z1 extreme handheld lol

[tranquil pebble]

my z1e handheld was $700.

a somewhat sane price compared to what we see now

[grand kernel]

yeah for $700 it makes much more sense

for $1600... lol

[tranquil pebble]

1600 is a hell no price

[rancid juniper]

$2000 handheld to run subway surfers remake 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[grand kernel]

at $700 it's competing with like laptop 5050

laptop 5050 still wins but you can make more of an argument for the whole handheld thing

[tranquil pebble]

my laptop has a 4060M

and 6900 XT in desktop

[grand kernel]

getting a little ambitious there buddy

might have to lower the resolution

[tranquil pebble]

Some company is going to put out a $10,000 handheld and someone will buy it

[rancid juniper]

i spent $869.47 (930.33 in taxes) for a 8845hs + 4060 laptop + 16gb ddr5 5600mhz (upgraded to 32gb). Best purchase? no lol

However it does everything i throw at it for now

[grand kernel]

I bet that $2000 handheld would run angry birds really well at 1200p

[rancid juniper]

angry birds revamped v3 will give that handheld a run for its money

[grand kernel]

my laptop is holding up really well for the $1200 I paid for it back in 2021

I think it paid for itself through eth mining too lol

[rancid juniper]

8gb vram bringing us down ngl

😡

[tranquil pebble]

anything above 1080p with 8 GB VRAM is... painful

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-cube-spinning-morgan-freeman-true-gif-6497263663941640363

[grand kernel]

idk why more and more laptops are going 1440p/4k now

[rancid juniper]

they're scared

[grand kernel]

imo 1080p is the perfect resolution for a laptop and any more is just unnecessary

I consider a higher res panel to be strictly a downside on laptops

[tranquil pebble]

they go higher so it feels more "premium" because a lot of cheap laptops now have 1080p

[grand kernel]

I had a 4k laptop once and I couldn't tell any difference between 1080p and 4k

[tranquil pebble]

as stupid as that logic is

[rancid juniper]

wait wait, smaller screensize + higher res = much higher quality right?

[tranquil pebble]

higher pixel density yeah, and to a point

[grand kernel]

well yeah but at some point it becomes irrelevant because your eyes can't make out the pixels anymore

[rancid juniper]

hmm i see

[grand kernel]

and I think 1080p 15" is already past that point

[tranquil pebble]

it gets to be diminishing returns at some point

[tranquil pebble]

tfw 6.7 inch 1440p (my phone)

[grand kernel]

in fact I think even 900p would be appropriate for a high end laptop in gaming but 1080p can be nice for general laptop use

[rancid juniper]

i think with those higher end displays will result in higher batt consumption, and with gpu companies being stingy with vram them games gonna lag hard

[grand kernel]

imagine a 5070 laptop just shredding every game at 900p lol

[rancid juniper]

granted there is upscaling but still, that UE5 game gonna find a way

[rancid juniper]

🤢

[grand kernel]

I run my phone at 720p and I can't tell a difference in terms of visual clarity

but I can tell that my battery life goes from 1 day to 3 days

[rancid juniper]

phones got the craziest resolutions tho

like it could be something like
1546x687 or something

[dusk knot]

Bad

[grand kernel]

they make the 720p look so pixelated in the preview lmao

[tranquil pebble]

2412x1080 is the lowest resolution for my phone, otherwise its 3216x1440

[grand kernel]

I literally cannot tell a difference

[rancid juniper]

lol ye

[dusk knot]

1440p on a phone should be the max

[grand kernel]

and I have 20/20 vision

being able to go down to 720p is a huge selling point to me

[tranquil pebble]

pretty sure there is at least one phone that does 4k

[rancid juniper]

Battery can stay for at least 2 days with this config

[grand kernel]

what's wrong with that though genuinely

[tranquil pebble]

one of the nice things with insane pixel density though is it makes text pretty much ALWAYS super crisp

[grand kernel]

how close to your laptop do you sit

8gb vram would be a luxurious amount at 900p lol

[rancid juniper]

close enough

https://tenor.com/view/productivity-thomas-frank-computer-work-stress-gif-14974569

[dusk knot]

Ik ...but reasonably for the size, 4k makes no sense

[rancid juniper]

not like this tho ^

[tranquil pebble]

yeah that is beyond the point of being reasonable

heckin microscopic pixels

[grand kernel]

this is how I unironically imagine the people that claim the difference between 4k and 1440p is night and day at 27"

[tranquil pebble]

it is... in VERY specific conditions

[rancid juniper]

no way they don't catch a headache from that

[grand kernel]

it is as long as your eyeball is touching your monitor

[tranquil pebble]

BeamNG 1440p vs 4k for example.... the dashboard text is more readable

outside of stuff like that, no

[rancid juniper]

what if you use DSR for it?

will it look readable?

[tranquil pebble]

idk havent tried

[rancid juniper]

new experiment

[tranquil pebble]

it might, since Beam AA sucks

[grand kernel]

or the people that claim they would rather not have a monitor than have 1080p 24"

[tranquil pebble]

1080p is ok at 24 inch

1440p at 27 inch is what I have

[grand kernel]

1080p 24" looks perfect to me maybe my viewing distance is longer than average

[tranquil pebble]

with how close my monitor is to me, 1080p and 1440p at 27 inches are visibly different

[grand kernel]

yeah my main monitor is 1440p 27" and it's really nice

[tranquil pebble]

1440p oled

[grand kernel]

the higher res mostly matters for the screen real estate outside of gaming to me

what's your viewing distance

think mine is like 3.5 ft

[tranquil pebble]

mine is probably 2 feet, maybe less

[grand kernel]

makes sense

I can shove my phone close enough to my face that my vision loses focus and still can't tell the difference between 720p and 1440p on that

[dusk knot]

Oof

[grand kernel]

why oof

that's a good thing

[dusk knot]

I don't think so

[grand kernel]

infinite battery life

[dusk knot]

I can see a difference between the two

On my phone

[grand kernel]

well I have 20/20 so I guess you have better than that

[dusk knot]

Ig

[grand kernel]

I'll take my free 4 days of battery life with no downsides

[tranquil pebble]

Nokia 3310 battery be like

(the original not the weird remakes)

[bitter ridge]

She is supposed to be AI so in theory this is AI slop

[dusk knot]

Come on

She's just an artificial little girl. Give her some slack

[royal crow]

The machines do not deserve rest

Unlike humans they are disposable

They are made, used, and destroyed for one purpose: doing crap no one wanted to do anyway

[tranquil pebble]

just maintenance lol

[dusk knot]

When AI gets to a point where they're genuinely sentient, full respects from me

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-sofia-robot-girl-gif-19742604

[pliant berry]

hold up tim cook is stepping down this year?

[dusk knot]

We'll have to see them as our children

[rancid juniper]

New assassin's creed leaked images just dropped!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/s/vLDW46arBC

[dusk knot]

😴

I'm so tired of remakes.

[rancid juniper]

No pirate adventure?

Oh

[bitter ridge]

I don't like the idea of remakes

[rancid juniper]

Shows that the company is creatively bankrupt + cash grab

[dusk knot]

Yep

It's a plague

[rancid juniper]

Ubisoft is on the brink of collapse so they need those $$$$ quick

[bitter ridge]

That is resources that could be instead used for a brand new different game or sequel

[wise gull]

anyone else have an issue with their cursor disappearing when opening a game?

[rancid juniper]

Why develop a new game when you can bank on nostalgia easy and quick?

[rancid juniper]

Have you tried setting your game to something like borderless or windowed mode?

[bitter ridge]

Imo they should double down on a game like Ac Odyssey since that game sold well despite not being "True Ac" like many might say

[rancid juniper]

AC died after 3

[wise gull]

yeah and all it does it turn the resolution way down and the cursor is still missing

[rancid juniper]

It happens to all games right?

[wise gull]

just farming simulator on epic games

[rancid juniper]

Probably just a bug then

[wise gull]

every video ive watched is just copy and paste

[rancid juniper]

You tried verifying the game?

[wise gull]

it happened awhile back and I found a video that fixed it, but now I cant find it anymore

[bitter ridge]

Out of the blue news

[wise gull]

I dont think so

[rancid juniper]

Try that

[wise gull]

how do I do that

[bitter ridge]

His net worth is 2.6 billion ig it was high time Tim cook took some time off and started spending it

[wise gull]

didnt work. but my mouse is there until the epic games overlay shows up, then it disappears

[sinful blade]

It’s been 1 year and 3 months since I emailed subway about resetting my password to get into my account. They’ve responded once since then. 1 month ago

I just was told I need to replace the belt in my car, lovely
It’s only $30, but I can’t drive without it which means I am royally screwed making money for the rest of the week

Because I do not have any bit of money to spare

The pros of having a 21 year old car

[dusk knot]

Hm

[dusk knot]

Wdym you can live without the belt?

🤨

If it’s worn down you don’t want to risk the chance of it snapping mid trip

[sinful blade]

I can’t drive without the belt

[wise gull]

mine is starting to squeak and they're a pain in the rear to replace for my truck

[dusk knot]

oh my god.....i saw "can"

[dusk knot]

only takes like 15-20 mins

but rip...no money

[cedar compass]

I driving Benz so I have to do regular maintenance

at every 10k miles

[proud jackal]

Rich

[proud jackal]

I'm waiting for my next big money sink for my 20 year old car.

Changing the alternator was a nightmare because I had to also change the belt

[craggy shoal]

egg

[proud jackal]

The power steering fluid leaked all over the alternator and so much needed replacement

How much do I offer

[velvet summit]

No belts at all in my car

Thank you toyota

Timing belts are the worst design for an engine

This car got no belts at all (asides from seatbelts)
1 chain, and no clutches to burn through

Toyota hybrids are kinda goated, especially their 5th gen hybrid system

They're now using lithium ion batteries across the board

[velvet summit]

(not what I have though)

The electric motors are also more powerful now

[dusk knot]

The future

[nocturne flicker]

I yearn for EV

My car is currently degrading even more

Or rather my mileage is going into the trash

[dusk knot]

Same

[nocturne flicker]

I'm getting about 13.4mpg

[dusk knot]

The amount of torque those vehicles have....need

[velvet summit]

evs had a lot of hate when they first came out but the majority of evs still have batteries that are not degraded to the point that they can't drive for most people's uses

main killer of EVs is basically just crashes

[proud jackal]

I'm averaging 22mpg

[nocturne flicker]

My biggest issue is that my insurance would likely double, I'd have to get a loan and my state is implementing an increase to the ev registration tax and are directly tying it to inflation

[dusk knot]

Smh

[nocturne flicker]

Despite gas taxes being a flat VAT that doesn't adjust based on inflation

[dusk knot]

This world. I hate it

[nocturne flicker]

Well, not VAT

Just a tax charged to the producer rather than consumer

Excise tax, that is it

[worn wave]

Still rocking a 20 year old Prius, 45mpg 😎

[velvet summit]

I'm averaging like 52

[cedar compass]

20mpg

I remember gas prices were under 2$ when I came to US lol

[velvet summit]

Gas prices dropped here today, right on time to refuel because the gas light started flashing

[cedar compass]

slight changes here . it's still around 4.5$

premium i mean

Mercedes not selling small engine versions in US so Istuck with 4L V8 one

[velvet summit]

I mean

If you're strapped for cash, you probably wouldn't be driving a Mercedes

[cedar compass]

still paying over 100$ for filling your tank hurts lol

[nocturne flicker]

It ain't gonna change much, WTI's price has plateaued at about $88 per barrel

So prices in about a week will roughly be where it fluctates around

Maybe 4-5 days depending on how often your local gas stations get deliveries

[cedar compass]

I don't expect price decrease anytime soon . Prices are getting high quickly but it coming down slowly

[nocturne flicker]

Well yes, it is a function of this:

Global prices are higher

Brent is hovering at about $95

[cedar compass]

Oil magnates can get richer now

[nocturne flicker]

Well yes, they also coincidentally shut down some oil rigs right as the price for oil started increasing to make sure the price increases would go higher

[dusk knot]

false

[worn night]

nice

[trail nest]

chat i need help. what is the best cas latencey ram speed for ryzen 5 7600x and rx 7600xt card

[craggy shoal]

Man they got a #building-and-recc-chat that’s wild

[trail nest]

hi motor

[worn night]

Ah my friend you have quite the misunderstood debacle

[trail nest]

???

[worn night]

in normal talk, your cpu and gpu do not have a speed or cas latency requirement

[worn night]

lol

if you're going with a 7600x, youll need ddr5 ram

[trail nest]

yeah i know and i still ddr5 still has cas latency

[worn night]

Right now prices are horrible so find one you think looks good and ill tell you if its good

all that matters is your budget for ram

cas and speed dont matter the pc will function with any

lowest youd be spending for a decent kit is like 350 pre-tax brand new

better options on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/336521732353
https://www.ebay.com/itm/236768971959
https://www.ebay.com/itm/406873870072

[trail nest]

@worn night https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LFJGck

that's my build

how is it?

[worn night]

You already have all of this?

[trail nest]

no, those are parts imma order. i already have monitors and everything like keyboard an mouse

[worn night]

In that case I recommend not getting that gpu

[trail nest]

can you find me a good white gpu

to match the white build

[worn night]

whats your budget

[worn night]

gladly

[trail nest]

$1k

[worn night]

Aight

Do you absolutely want a gen 5 nvme or will you be fine with a gen 4 cause youll save some money and not really sacrifice any usable speed

[trail nest]

how much is gen 4 speed

[worn night]

gen 4 is around 5000-7500 gen 5 is well above 10000

but realistically you wouldnt be using that speed even from the gen 4 ever

[trail nest]

oh i see

even in gaming?

[worn night]

very much so

[trail nest]

like top games?

[worn night]

games benefit from cpu and gpu, even a gen 3 nvme can game at the highest settings

[trail nest]

i see

[worn night]

the nvme isnt even used except when loading the game

do you play at 1080?

[trail nest]

lol yeah my monitors are 1080p

[worn night]

K what games do you play

and are you in the american market

[trail nest]

the witcher

hogwarts legacy

final fantasy 7 remake

[worn night]

are you ok with not getting a white power supply, you wont really see it and its just extra money

[trail nest]

ok sure

[icy ore]

hm

[worn night]

Another thing, you currently have a 360mm liquid cooler chosen but to use it in the case you chose you will have to side or front mount it, is that your plan or is that ok?

[trail nest]

ya, i'm gonna mount it on the side

[worn night]

k

[trail nest]

i hate acrylic and glass cases

that's why i chose this one

[worn night]

note you will have to reverse the fans on it

but very good aio choice

[trail nest]

what do you mean by reverse the fans?

[worn night]

flip them over on the radiator

doing so will keep the airflow in the best direction and also make it a ton easier to clean

[trail nest]

oh yeah

so it pulls in air from the outside

[worn night]

did you say 1k budget for the whole build or just the gpu?

[trail nest]

whole build

this is gonna be a mid tier pc

[worn night]

ah ok

your original list wouldve been well over 1500 dollars lol

[trail nest]

wow

well fix it for me then lol

[worn night]

yup

you will have to have less storage and ram if you plan on staying on the am5 platform

otherwise I would suggest going am4

[trail nest]

why's that?

[worn night]

am5 requires ddr5 ram which is a ton more expensive than ddr4

ill show you dw

[worn night]

this is pretty much the best I can put together without sacrificing gaming performance but it has half the ram and storage https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dp9Pn2

[trail nest]

kk let me chec k

[worn night]

at a budget of 1k and with these prices, its advisible to build AM4 instead of AM5 and you might have to sacrifice the white build for a black one

you can also get a less wattage psu and still be fully safe

[trail nest]

kk

[worn night]

give this a look https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JXLK4g

[trail nest]

kk

[worn night]

much closer to 1k, 32gb ram but 1tb of storage

will still crush any game at 1080p

and some of build is still white too

[heady plinth]

That ssd deal sold out in like a minute after it went up.

[worn night]

dang lol

i was wondering why it was so low

[worn night]

unless you can up the budget then this is the best perf you can get without heavily skimping on other parts https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r4DXvR

[trail nest]

kk

[worn night]

do u have any questions

[trail nest]

nope, i will make careful considerations looking at the lists

[worn night]

aight only look at these two then
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r4DXvR
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dp9Pn2

[craggy shoal]

#building-and-recc-chat doesn't exist anymore

[opaque sedge]

What doesn’t exist anymore?

[worn night]

deprecated we aint need it 🔥

[craggy shoal]

Ask a trusted adult

[queen briar]

i cant ask myself, i dont know the answer.

[worn night]

bro is not a trusted adult

[dusk knot]

Adult status: revoked

Proceed to your nearest infantile reversal chamber at 600 hours

[worn night]

holy wall of edits

[dusk knot]

Only 3 edits.

[worn night]

caldonoxide

someone explain

[dusk knot]

What

[worthy meteor]

would you like compounding debt

because I sure don't

[velvet summit]

Credit cards are basically loan generators
If you pay it off fully within like 20 days, it's 0% interest
After that, the remaining unpaid balance (over that period) will be increased by the interest rate in your contract, and it gets compounded every month

[worthy meteor]

minimum payment just means you don't pay the slightly higher penalty rate, fee and interest structure for amex gold in the image:

[misty sparrow]

I don't get why you would ever need to use a credit card when you could just use a debit card 24/7

If you don't have the money, just save

[worthy meteor]

Rewards and cashback are good if you control your spending and set up monthly payments from your account to also build your credit score

bnpl is a big problem though

[misty sparrow]

it got to doordash and other food apps so clearly it is

imagine paying monthly for a food purchase

[worthy meteor]

$1.5 Costco hotdog pay in 4 xddd

[velvet summit]

Unless you're bad with your money, a credit card is greatly beneficial at least in North America

[grand kernel]

because you can build a $2k pc and get free $100 from 5% credit card rewards lol

[bitter ridge]

Tried changing my phone wallpaper after a long time and just realized mkbhd wallpaper app is no more

[worn wave]

because credit cards give rewards

You also grow your credit score by using (& paying off) credit cards

[pliant berry]

Also security purposes. After one incident i only ever use credit cards in stores. Lot easier to replace than a debit card if it gets stolen or compromised

But yes you shouldn’t be spending money you don’t have

[craggy shoal]

Get a girlfriend so you never get tired of your wallpaper

(Easy life hack)

[nocturne flicker]

If you are capable of paying back the total of your balance before the end of the billing period there is no problem with spending on credit. You just have to be capable of calculating roughly how much you'll make and plan accordingly with your spending. CCs are vastly superior to debit cards in any scenario in which your card is compromised because CC fraud is their money that they've lost, not yours

[elfin mural]

credit cards are cool, it's just that most ppl are bad at money

[dusk knot]

for once......Star Wars is good, guys. Maul shadow lord is the best I've seen since the clone wars TV show.

what has been disney been smoking since then...

😮‍💨

[unreal trail]

gas

[bitter ridge]

Took me a lot of energy to comb through stranger things season 5 since my Attention span is on the lower side

[trail nest]

chat i have a question. can i use extra hdd or ssd drives from my current pc in a new build if it doesn't have windows operating system on it?

[dusk knot]

Yes you can

[trail nest]

sweet! that'll save me hella money!

[dusk knot]

Mmhhm

[opaque sedge]

U… have an extra… ssd

[trail nest]

i currently have this m.2 drive in my current pc for games. it doesn't have windows OS on it. do you know how i would install this into my new build? would i have to format it in my current pc first b4 installing it into my new build?

my new build is gonna have m.2 pcie 5.0 though so this ssd should still work right?

[dusk knot]

You don't really have to format it since it previously was on windows.. should instantly work.

[trail nest]

kk

wow, i just saved myself hella money lol i thought i'd have to get an extra m.2 ssd again for the new build

[dusk knot]

Good goood goood

[grand kernel]

i just turn on autopay and don't spend more than i have

it's not even any work to do

get thousands of dollars and 810 credit score for free

[nocturne flicker]

I'm neurotic about my CC payments and also refuse to have anything automatically charging my bank account because more often than not it is empty because I am on a tight budget

Having to make sure my work's crap insurance isn't less than 10% of my income in premiums is a PITA for my income

[chrome mirage]

My credit card got frozen after my second payment and my bank doesn't know why. I never bothered to fix it since my debit card works online.

[bitter ridge]

I had to do a ton of paper work to get my credit card since I have over 5 different income sources

Looking back not sure if the benefits were worth all that hassle

[upper rain]

oh word? i may have to watch it then

is it clone wars tier, or just the first thing they haven't screwed up since then?

[bitter ridge]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-and-msi-may-build-xbox-next-project-helix-systems-leaker-says

If true in theory we would have more choice but also higher ceiling on prices

[craggy shoal]

@opaque sedge build a server (slap Proxmox on it)

[upper rain]

i think PS6 caps prices on what the next microsoft PCXbox can be priced at

Xbox is definitely going for performance leadership, but i'd be shocked if PS6 was priced above PS5 pro, and the Xbox platform has greater overhead anyway

if they go for a $1200 box against a $700 box, who cares if they win performance by 20%, Xbox exclusives basically don't exist anymore because Microsoft bought out all of the studios. they HAVE to sell them cross platform or they're just burning money

not to mention that like 80% of Xbox sales were Series S. i don't think an expensive Xbox is going to sell very well. Series X sure didn't

[sinful blade]

Microsoft wants pc and Xbox together

[upper rain]

mhm

[sinful blade]

They don’t want exclusives

[upper rain]

that's what i'm saying

there is almost no reason to buy an Xbox unless it's a cheaper alternative

[sinful blade]

PS prices are gonna be sky highs regardless

[upper rain]

all the Xbox games go to PC/PS

[upper rain]

idk, the die looks exceptionally cost optimized

i think they're trying to price it as low as they can considering the circumstances

my thought is probably PS5 pro pricing

then using the handheld die for a budget PS6 offering

[sinful blade]

it’s probably gonna be $100-150 higher than ps5 pro
They have VERY loyal fan base

No one is more deranged than PS fans

I sold an old PS4 on fbmp for $200 a few months back

That’s not right lmao

[bitter ridge]

Current ps5 pro pricing or the one before the price increase

[upper rain]

depends on what the market looks like. i'd suggest current ps5 pro pricing with a defacto price cut once the AI bubble pops

[ashen swan]

https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-steel-legend-rx9070xt-sl-16g-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814930136
Great

1000 USD

[bitter ridge]

This says newegg canada

[ashen swan]

..... DAMN IT

[velvet summit]

Lmao

[ashen swan]

so Davinchi resolve seems rlly good now ?

[velvet summit]

Wdym

It wasn't bad in the past

[ashen swan]

I never got reccomended it to me until now for Linux so maybe I am uninformed lmao

[unreal trail]

Im gonna buy a tree

[velvet summit]

it's a slightly less popular video editor but it's still part of like the top 5 video editors used

[ashen swan]

I use KDELive rn

but my FW 12 is dead rn

[velvet summit]

the top options are avid media composer, premiere pro, davinci resolve, final cut, and maybe.... honestly idk what would be in the top 5 lmao but those are the top 4 (not in order)

[ashen swan]

does Davinchi have a good photo editer getting sick of Gimp

[velvet summit]

no

for photo editing, i'd recommend using affinity photo which is free... though actually idk if it works on linux

[ashen swan]

ah Heard of that

it takes along time to set up

[bitter ridge]

Capcut?

[velvet summit]

capcut is pretty popular on social media i suppose

the top 4 i listed are used on movies as well though

i doubt capcut was used on any movies lmao

asides from like youtuber films at most (if even)

[ashen swan]

GUYS

GUYS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN8Z7bCGgjE

barely higer then 270K plus in cinebench

(means nothing)

Only really wins at puget system benchmark

ah

so 270K plus is just a better deal

[bitter ridge]

Horizon is doing something right to take advantage of it

[ashen swan]

900 USD MSRP

[worn wave]

I believe they updated it recently, could be worth a try

[bitter ridge]

Acc is also doing something right

[bitter ridge]

Cheap multi core performance is all it has going for it on a dead platform

Definition of a one trick pony

[dusk knot]

Its a little better I believe

[bitter ridge]

How do you rank something subjective

(You can't)

[ashen swan]

even so 9950X3D 7950X3D exist if you wanna go on AM5

and people DO need a Cheap muti core CPU rn

[bitter ridge]

the best sellers on Amazon,Newegg say otherwise

[upper rain]

270k hit top 10 sellers on newegg within 3 days of launch lol

it's currently 5th place

it has been steadily climbing since launch

AM5 is quite great if you upgrade frequently, but a proper Arrowlake setup gets you performance that pretty closely resembles at least Zen 4 x3D on the 1% lows, even if average is a bit lower. and you get so many cores it's insane

[upper rain]

a lot of the games i play my 270k feels considerably better than my 7800x3D. the intercore latency and memory bandwidth just kill it in games. it's attrocious at stock, mind you. like worse than or comparable to non 3D zen 4, but if you give it good memory and OC the uncores it is amazing

[upper rain]

notice how that's not newegg?

[bitter ridge]

My brother upgrading from a 7500f to zen7 will have like a 5 year gap so the "upgrade frequently" thing is bs

[upper rain]

the enthusiast market clearly had recieved arrowlake refresh well

[upper rain]

so he saves like $100 on a board lol, so what?

$100 saved across 5 years is negligible

i'd rather have modern i/o anyway

AM4 was great because CPUs had stagnated for so long that every generation brought meaningful performance improvements, we're at the point now where CPU is basically solved. i just want better USB and more m.2 and more/faster PCIE for my wicked fast 20 core CPU that crushes everything I do

which is exactly what ARL promises

sorry, 24 core in the case of the 270k

[ashen swan]

getting 265K tommrow

[opaque sedge]

With the 4070super?

[icy ore]

https://x.com/igndeals/status/2046254393620603092?s=46

IGN Finds (@IGNDeals)

This Piranha-plant shaped Nintendo Switch 2 dock and charging station is marked down 12% to $87.99 at Amazon. Charges two pairs of Joy-con, the console itself, and works as a TV dock, too. Also has a night light? This goes hard. https://t.co/JntFy9dWSf #ad

X · Apr 20, 2026, 3:47 PM

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/bcUTRJNCah8?si=Lu2RAqbdsvS02Yhf

https://youtu.be/1PcO2k6vprY?si=rlecK_3gu8D1wz5K

https://youtu.be/p6O4LCmah98?si=RShbU1r199tKSk49

[ashen swan]

yep

alr covered

AMD wtf is with this chip

[craggy shoal]

Not needed (unless you don't want to run headless), but sure

[bitter ridge]

A 25 minutes GN video is on the lower side

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-gun-heisenberg-gif-27155752

[dusk knot]

Hello wegg

Don't do it, Theo

[ashen swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqFDIR00Mwo

2 and a half more horus

[bitter ridge]

Buy everyone in Newegg server a ps5 pro to play GTA 6 ?

[dusk knot]

Lol

Not me

[nocturne flicker]

Buy everyone one share in Wegg (it is expensive because NEGG is like $42 right now)

[upper rain]

hype! it's such a nice chip i think you'll be really happy. sooo much connectivity too

[royal crow]

Every tech tuber dunkin on intel until arrow lake refresh but arrow lake proper is pretty darn good

[upper rain]

yeah, as long as you have a Z series board (for gaming, productivity barely benefits). the low D2D KILLS gaming performance. but ooohhhh my gosh, give it fast memory and overclock the uncore and it's ridiculously smooth

[royal crow]

Best part imo is the igpu

I could rip out my 9060xt rn and still be perfectly fine just using the Xe

[upper rain]

i couldn't really tell the difference between my tuned arrowlakes and my tuned 7800x3D. the average FPS was higher with the X3D, but frametimes/pacing and 1% lows were negligible. and the Arrowlakes are SO CHEAP! and you get sooo much multithreading too it's really so good for my use case lol

[upper rain]

it's that good?

[royal crow]

As good and in some cases better

Like for example

[upper rain]

wild. we talking the ArrowlakeS iGPU or the laptop graphics focused CPUs?

[royal crow]

The Xe can load >16K textures on blender while the 9060xt cannot

[royal crow]

Desktop igpu

[upper rain]

ahhhhhh i see. i take it that's mostly encoder things?

in games it seems to be pretty standard iGPU performance

[royal crow]

Yeah, still not anything to downplay though

Works just fine on Minecraft+shaders+terrain pack+distance mod

[upper rain]

i saw skatterbencher took his to like 3.1ghz or something

[royal crow]

60 fps

[upper rain]

with that and DDR5 8000+ i'm sure it gets a solid uplift

[royal crow]

Lemme see

Mines running at a solid 2 GHz according to intel graphics

[upper rain]

40% uplift per Skatterbencher's results

[royal crow]

Dang

[upper rain]

went from 27fps to 38. apparently at 3.7ghz though lolol

i wish desktop Alchemist clocked that high. i still need to get a waterblock for mine. the LE cooler throttles bad (or maybe this is an excuse to get an AIB a770 lolol)

[royal crow]

B770 wen

[upper rain]

only b70 i think 😔

[royal crow]

Tbh I kinda wish I had bought a b580 when it was still at msrp

[upper rain]

i might get one as a wedding gift lol. my fiancé has seen me positively shake when i've been considering just saying f it and dropping a grand on a b70 lmao

[royal crow]

I even made a neat lil custom skin for it

[upper rain]

i am so bad about collectors items, especially expensive techy ones

[upper rain]

if i fix my Acer one i'll sell it to you for MSRP if you want lol

[upper rain]

oh wait i think it was asrock i forgor

[upper rain]

wow, nice

[royal crow]

Ye looks way better than whatever they have going on by default

[upper rain]

i like the b580 LE cooler, but it's definitely an aesthetic step back from a770 LE

[royal crow]

Plus no 3 fan

[upper rain]

it's also made out of that weird spongy plastic stuff that scratches ridiculously easily

i was so pissed off when i found a scratch on my backplate after literally just sitting in its box while i was moving

[royal crow]

💀

Normalize custom machined gpu plating

[upper rain]

truth nuke

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-wojak-soyjak-soy-jak-truth-gif-10540901418861964264

[sinful blade]

GAMERS

[royal crow]

ROOMBA

[upper rain]

MODERATORS

[bitter ridge]

My controller usage lately seems to be 70% and K&M 30%

I should probably work on getting it 50/50

[royal crow]

I use my controller for exactly 3 games

[dusk knot]

Hhhhmmm

[ashen swan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqFDIR00Mwo

1 HOUR

WOOWOWOWOWOW

[royal crow]

So if we're taking my whole day into account it's usually 99/1 or 100/0, favoring kbm

[honest birch]

https://wccftech.com/intel-no-longer-limit-overclocking-to-high-end-skus-plans-more-unlocked-cpus/

[bitter ridge]

I thought stuff like the core ultra 5 225 were already unlocked

This is a net negative imo because some people are better off just using a locked sku so that they can't mess something up and risk instability.

https://insider-gaming.com/xbox-game-pass-price-drop-announced/

$29.99 to $22.99

[rancid juniper]

FINALLY, I HOPE THIS IS TRUE

We can get CORE 3 OC once more

undervolting + overclocking should be available for ALL chips

[nocturne flicker]

Someone who isn't overclocking won't have to worry about instability or messing something up

[rancid juniper]

hopefully this extends to most mobile SKUs

[rancid juniper]

Wild because that should apply to gpus right? Locking them down further so they can't OC

[nocturne flicker]

OC capable does not mean OC mandatory

[rancid juniper]

^^^

[nocturne flicker]

Plus if all cpus can OC, the product stack can be simplified. Theoretically they can cut prices a little more if they aren't dividing cpus between k and non-k variants but this is 2026, no price cuts for us

[rancid juniper]

You couldn't even undervolt on an intel B board properly because of the performance reduction compared to the Z boards (B660/Z690)

which is atrocious

[ashen swan]

neat

[rancid juniper]

Honestly glad that they're finally changing the way they support CPUs

more options for everyone

[elfin mural]

a lot of ppl doesn't even know what xmp means

[bitter ridge]

Walmart The rock finally getting things done

[nocturne flicker]

Xenophobic Memory Parameters

[grand kernel]

looks like intel knows they're in trouble lol

ayo

AMD blacklisted GN

[bitter ridge]

Caveat being we don't get day one cod launches anymore

[nocturne flicker]

Xylophone Melody Permitter

[ashen swan]

Man what to distract myself from being sad

[bitter ridge]

I am yet to watch the full video but is it a blacklist or just not getting a product sample just this one time

[grand kernel]

it says blacklist

[nocturne flicker]

They are no longer getting samples and have been shunted to a third party for any questions iirc

[bitter ridge]

GN can be hyperbolic

[nocturne flicker]

And have been not getting any responses for months from AMD

[ashen swan]

GUYS

UM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqFDIR00Mwo

10 MINUETS

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[grand kernel]

didn't you already post this

like a few minutes ago

[rancid juniper]

They gonna introduce the framework phone'

[elfin mural]

you're the only one hyped about this thus far

[bitter ridge]

I love GN steve but he does have a habit sometimes of blowing things out of proportion

[grand kernel]

so you're justifying him being blacklisted

[ashen swan]

YEAH BUT THERES 10 MINS LEFT

[elfin mural]

gn got blacklisted by amd

[bitter ridge]

I did not justify that just mentioning what he sometimes can be like

[rancid juniper]

when you question the company practices a lil bit:

[ashen swan]

only 2000 watching ?

dang

[nocturne flicker]

GN doesn't pull the company didn't include us this one time card, when they say they are getting blacklisted it is due to repeated behavior, not because Steve got annoyed once

[grand kernel]

bringing this up in this context can only really mean trying to justify it

[bitter ridge]

Like the linus thing imo he blew way out of proportion

[grand kernel]

disagree

[ashen swan]

I still dunno that situation

[grand kernel]

linus got exactly as much attention as he should have gotten for that

[ashen swan]

one of Linus's employees was stupid ?

[nocturne flicker]

Everyone blew it out of proportion, you mention GN on the LTT subreddit today and you'll get harassed out of the subreddit

[ashen swan]

like

[grand kernel]

yall really enjoy victim blaming that much huh

[ashen swan]

bad bencmarks ?

[rancid juniper]

🍿

[ashen swan]

I don't get it ?

[rancid juniper]

thats still expensive

[bitter ridge]

Ok brewing a coffee and about to watch the video for more context

[grand kernel]

are you a proponent of sexual harassment?

or not giving your employees raises for 3 years and then making videos memeing about them when they complain

[ashen swan]

brother I said I didn't understand it
all I knew was GN and Linus part was the LTT labs part

[bitter ridge]

First time hearing about the latter part

[grand kernel]

it's all publicly available information go find it

[dusk knot]

$10 plz

[rancid juniper]

good offer for ultimate

[honest birch]

Probably not

[rancid juniper]

thats why im hoping it happens

[bitter ridge]

I never played any of the black flag games because they were too janky compared to newer games

[honest birch]

If anything they will probably put unlocked cpus on locked laptop chipsets

[rancid juniper]

ultimate ragebait

[grand kernel]

hey my intel laptop supports overclocking

[honest birch]

Also even if your cpu and chipset support OC the laptop manufacturer can still disable overclocking

[grand kernel]

on h470m chipset

[rancid juniper]

Elite Tier Ragebait

[grand kernel]

next time I buy a laptop I'll be on the lookout for one that supports ram overclocking minimum

[rancid juniper]

its like they're doing this:

https://tenor.com/view/blob-jelly-memes-stare-at-it-bob's-gif-8902687973428544154

[grand kernel]

I won't go back to a laptop that's stuck at jedec

never

[honest birch]

Look for one with a mux switch.

[ashen swan]

20 HOURS BATTERY LIFE

HELLL YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[honest birch]

Able to disable the igpu and only use the dgpu, increases performance

[bitter ridge]

So Resynced is a good thing for me but I still would prefer them using the resources for a new game

[grand kernel]

mine can do that without a mux switch but it's not automatic

[rancid juniper]

on my end the igpu + dgpu combo is not too bad on the laptop

[grand kernel]

have to reboot and select mode

[honest birch]

Yes thats how most are.

Mine is

With my 4080M

[grand kernel]

it's fine for me cause I only game on it when I'm travelling

so most of the time I'd rather keep igpu active

[honest birch]

It still gets good battery life even with the dgpu only mode

[grand kernel]

nvidia optimus kinda sucks though

[honest birch]

At least for me

[grand kernel]

lol mine gets terrible battery life with dgpu enabled

even though I have a modded battery

[bitter ridge]

Most laptops with dgpus get terrible battery life

[honest birch]

Mine is 95Wh

How big is yours

[rancid juniper]

thicc

[grand kernel]

99

[honest birch]

Shit must be sucking power

[grand kernel]

I get 10 hours if nvidia optimus decides to work

45 minutes if it doesn't

[honest birch]

I use a 14900HX 4080 laptop, ecores disabled

[rancid juniper]

i hope it doesn't become a spicy pillow with that capacity

[honest birch]

Insane

[rancid juniper]

[grand kernel]

i7-11800h 3070m

[rancid juniper]

ecores disabled on a laptop?

[grand kernel]

i7-11800h @ 4.6ghz all core

3070m flashed to 140w tgp and bios hacked for permanent dynamic boost

[grand kernel]

if I push it hard enough I can force the laptop to drain battery while plugged in

[grand kernel]

280w power brick not enough

[honest birch]

I have a 330W brick

[rancid juniper]

power hog

[bitter ridge]

People like you bringing those thick laptops into classes is why windows laptops get the bad stigma to them

[grand kernel]

32gb ddr4-3200 17-20-20-38 gear 1

I brought my laptop to class and my friend laughed at me

[rancid juniper]

i'd rather get a laptop with a fan instead of an airless cooktop

[grand kernel]

by the end of the class he asked me how it was quieter than his macbook

[rancid juniper]

[grand kernel]

🤣

liquid metal

fans didn't even turn on for 3 hours

[honest birch]

Performs better, in a laptop we are more worried about heat, ecores just generate more, 8c/16t all i need anyway, more than enough

[grand kernel]

full passive cooling

[honest birch]

If i need MT id probably keep them enabled

[rancid juniper]

fairs

[grand kernel]

worried about heat?

smh

[bitter ridge]

Why not disable the P cores and only use E cores

[grand kernel]

just slam 135w through the 45w chip and redline 100c permanently

[rancid juniper]

my gpu's vram does get hot (up to 90c)
should i open up my laptop and add ptm 7950 + putty (never did that one)

🤔

[grand kernel]

90c? your laptop is cold bro

[rancid juniper]

i wanna oc the vram further

[bitter ridge]

Arrow lake E cores have the ipc of zen 3 iirc

So pretty good

[rancid juniper]

hmm

[grand kernel]

90c is fine you wont get meaningful oc headroom by improving cooling

in fact

you might make the overall system worse by improving vram cooling

[rancid juniper]

WHAT

[grand kernel]

by having the vram dump more heat into the shared heatsink

gpu core might boost slightly less

when I pad modded my 3080

[honest birch]

Modified heatsink, make it as big as possible

[grand kernel]

my vram temps fell by 56c

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-true-true-face-morgan-freeman-sponge-gif-2079152472903869039

[grand kernel]

but my gpu core temps rose by like 6c

I mean in that case it was def worth

cause it was permanent 112c vram

but 90c is good you're fine

[rancid juniper]

so far my 4060m is stable from 2595mhz @ 1.010v (STOCK) > 2610mhz @ 0.945v (OVERCLOCK) on the core

i think i shaved off around 10-15w?

not too bad

[grand kernel]

"desktop replacement" laptops should consider just coming without batteries

use the space for more heatsink

[grand kernel]

smh

why save power

[bitter ridge]

Wouldn't a mini pc be a better choice atp

[rancid juniper]

so my lapper can last longer

[ashen swan]

I don't need a desktop anymore

[grand kernel]

I oced my 3070M from 1560mhz stock to 1920mhz

[ashen swan]

Framework 13 Pro

[upper wedge]

#tech-deals is it even worth it for a 90 day warranty

[ashen swan]

lets go

[grand kernel]

imagine being happy with 15mhz gain when you could get 360mhz gain

smh

[ashen swan]

with a B390

[rancid juniper]

And plus, the core OC isn't really worth. It's stable at 2730mhz from 2595mhz

Not a big jump

[ashen swan]

DANG LIFES GOOD

[rancid juniper]

LG

[grand kernel]

a mini pc doesn't typically have a keyboard or screen built in

[grand kernel]

1560mhz to 1920mhz is definitely noticeable

have you done time spy on your laptop

I wonder how it compares to mine

[rancid juniper]

You see, that's your silicon jumping that high

And yes I have

[bitter ridge]

Frame work announcing panther lake models ? @ashen swan

[grand kernel]

it's an aggressive oc + liquid metal + vbios flash + dynamic boost hacking

not just the silicon

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[rancid juniper]

unfair matchup man

[grand kernel]

I was beating $6000 3080ti laptops from the same gen

[rancid juniper]

$6000 3080ti?

[ashen swan]

yes

[rancid juniper]

hell is this scam?

[ashen swan]

but at 1199

[rancid juniper]

💀

[grand kernel]

yeah 3080ti laptops were top of the line for that gen

90 class laptops started with 4090

[bitter ridge]

b390 for $1199 ?

[grand kernel]

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27913333

[rancid juniper]

this is my best result: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/57367405

[ashen swan]

(no it's the base model which is a ultra 5)

[bitter ridge]

Sad

[grand kernel]

damn

my 2021 laptop holding up well

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/57367405/spy/27913333

[rancid juniper]

site is broken

bruh

[ashen swan]

I have 2000 USD for it LMAO

[grand kernel]

works for me

[rancid juniper]

what a score

[grand kernel]

ah i remember why my i7-11800h is so cold in this test

i had the laptop's bottom cover off and my balcony door open with a desk fan blasting winter air directly onto the heatsink

lol

75C cpu 53C gpu

[rancid juniper]

i wish my cpu can undervolt

[grand kernel]

yeah i really pushed this hardware to its absolute limits

[rancid juniper]

too bad the 8945hs can

[grand kernel]

it's holding up really well thanks to 1080p screen

[bitter ridge]

Worth a shot for a second pc but I would want longer if someone uses it on their main pc

[grand kernel]

even the 8gb vram isn't so bad

[rancid juniper]

modding goes crazy

[grand kernel]

the best thing is

i treat it as a normal laptop and have no problems

[upper wedge]

yeah honestly it scares me a little

they had 1000w but scalpers got that quick

[grand kernel]

i took it to 4 countries and my liquid metal never became a problem

[rancid juniper]

liquid metal handled better than PS5 consoles?

[grand kernel]

best kind of modding is the kind of modding you can safely daily

[upper wedge]

woot also dropped pc parts but never had an area listed for them on their page, some woot tryhards 🫰

[rancid juniper]

[grand kernel]

yeah im kinda surprised my liquid metal holds up so well considering

my laptop spends its whole life at like a 45 degree angle

i have a fanless laptop stand that just raises it up

[ashen swan]

@elfin mural Framework 13 pro with Ultra 5 Panther lake starting at 1199

[grand kernel]

fanless is better unless you drop $100 on one of the super premium laptop stands

[ashen swan]

Better cooling and screen
Better speaker

ALUMINUM

[grand kernel]

i believe these are the gold standard

[rancid juniper]

overclocking the 13600k is almost useless

[grand kernel]

but too expensive for my liking

[rancid juniper]

little gains

for extra power and temps

[grand kernel]

basically it's not a real laptop cooler if it doesn't plug into the wall

if it's powered off laptop usb the fan is too weak to move enough air to be worth it

[rancid juniper]

thats just a desktop pc atp

[grand kernel]

at that point you're just introducing turbulence

i mean not really? you can still take it off the cooler and do laptop things with it

[ashen swan]

HOLY MOLY

530000 NTD FOR B390

[grand kernel]

but yeah you're basically "docking" it to become a desktop pc

[rancid juniper]

new framework phone?

oh

nvm

[ashen swan]

https://frame.work/tw/en/products/laptop13pro-diy-intel-ultra-3/configuration/new

[grand kernel]

it's reversible instantly

[upper wedge]

I know 😔

[grand kernel]

have you seen the laptops modded with external water cooling loops lmao

[rancid juniper]

glad im not alone in this

[rancid juniper]

yes, its goofy

[grand kernel]

or even the ones with a massive cpu cooler ziptied

[upper wedge]

extra 75w for like less than 5% boost

[grand kernel]

that's when you get into "this is no longer a laptop" territory

[upper wedge]

might aswell overclock my GPU

[grand kernel]

as long as you can still toss it into your backpack it's still a laptop

[rancid juniper]

better gains that way

ram oc is probably the best area to overclock

but the MOST ANNOYING

[upper wedge]

also can't forget if your bios & CPU ain't messed up

you'll be alright

but in the highly likely chance that it is

[grand kernel]

might be better off doing turbo boost OC than all-core OC for gaming performance

[upper wedge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/operation-teapot-nuke

[grand kernel]

all-core helps with shader compilation though

[upper wedge]

that's how your 13600k gonna be when it has degenerative bios & voltage issues

[grand kernel]

ehh i feel like 13600K has plenty of headroom before things get dangerous

it's only 5.1ghz stock boost

the chips that were having problems were trying to boost higher than that

[rancid juniper]

this is what i get with an undervolted 9070 xt + undervolted 13600k (-150mv)

[grand kernel]

if you can squeeze 5.5-5.6ghz turbo out of the 13600k that's a reasonable uplift

think some people have achieved higher

you're at 61w not like you don't have room to go up

[rancid juniper]

I have a
5.5 ghz pcore
4.4 ghz ecore
4.8 ghz ring

stable profile

but it consumes way too much power at 1.230v

i dont like it

[grand kernel]

my 13700k was able to reach 5.9ghz on 2 cores but it wasn't really useful practically lol

[grand kernel]

how much?

I never saw my 13700k exceeding like 130w in gaming

except for the time genshin randomly pushed it to 400w