general-chat

[craggy shoal]

SDIYBT

@elfin mural (sorry for the second ping. wrong reply at first)

Thanks bro

[north crescent]

Note that was me, I cant ban

[craggy shoal]

Thanks bro

[north crescent]

But I can remove messages

[craggy shoal]

I didn't know techies could remove messages

[north crescent]

New-ish thing

[craggy shoal]

I guess that explains why some bots come back lol

useful tbh

[north crescent]

Yeah we basically remove messages and ask for ban

[craggy shoal]

@north crescent also found in these channels:

• #gaming
• #cars
• #gym
• #electronics
• #food-and-drinks
• #no-mic-chat
• (probably more but I don't have those channels listed)

[north crescent]

Removed those, I'll leave it to ban to remove ones I couldnt find

[misty sparrow]

What’s this?

I don’t get it

[royal crow]

He hates canvas discussion posts

[paper verge]

@craggy shoal its me back again

shady back

back again

[craggy shoal]

shady back

huh

[upper rain]

@lone mango

[paper verge]

shi

was lookin fo u in dubai

[craggy shoal]

This guy was looking for me in Dubai lmao

As if 💀

[paper verge]

as if

[royal crow]

Ah yes, because thermodynamics is a load of bs

[lone ibex]

Did you contact them yet to do any kind of troubleshooting

That's the first step

[white belfry]

Ive been trying to

[lone ibex]

Well, it was the weekend. I'm sure their technical support was either very busy or possibly even closed

[royal crow]

200 iq response

[white belfry]

Think theyre closed I just really hope I get a replacement

[lone ibex]

(877)-550-8826 is the phone number to ABS customer service

[white belfry]

Its my first ever pc

And thank you

[lone ibex]

No worries, good luck!

[lone ibex]

There's a different phone number for during the first 30 days

1-800-685-3471

I think it's return vs service

You still have the original box and all the packaging and stuff, right?

Either way. Whenever you call just be sure you have the order number from your Newegg order history, they will ask for that to look it up

WOW refurbished 5070 cards are all the way down below 500 now

https://www.newegg.com/pny-technologies-inc-oc-geforce-rtx-5070-12gb-graphics-card-triple-fans/p/N82E16814133999?Item=N82E16814133999

Kinda crazy

[upper rain]

all my homies hate popscience articles

[royal crow]

same

[upper rain]

so still $80 (minimum) off from what they should be?

[nocturne flicker]

True and Correct

[white belfry]

Yes I didnt. Throw anything away

[dusk knot]

Hahaha checkmate

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/borderlands-4-now-has-68-official-gpu-settings-gearbox-ceo-says-use-dlss

and they wonder why upscaling is hated

[idle nexus]

does this work? wth lol https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FKN68WSK

[dusk knot]

The graphics don't justify the performance. Are they losing it!!!!!!!!?

[idle nexus]

what ammo do you use in your anti-static gun to both emit a stream of positive ions & generate negative ions?

[rancid juniper]

lol yea, im done with this topic

[idle nexus]

for the low price of $48.99

[dusk knot]

Electricity

[idle nexus]

oh like alternating current or something? lol

[dusk knot]

Idk

But to generate those, it's usually electricity right?

That's the ammo ..hahaha

[idle nexus]

sounds silly

[dusk knot]

😔

[pliant berry]

what does one use an anti static gun for

[dusk knot]

A piezoelectric crystal it seems is what it would mostly rely on

[idle nexus]

records apparently

[dusk knot]

Hm

[pliant berry]

oh

[idle nexus]

who needs a silly static bracelet when you can just ion blast with an anti-static gun for $48.99

[dusk knot]

Ones cheaper

[pliant berry]

i guess that makes sense but correct me if im wrong. don't you discharge the static when you go to pick it up?

[idle nexus]

lol I think so hence the zap taking stuff out of the dryer?

[pliant berry]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

also I've finally had enough.

nearly half a year waiting for an item is just way too long

[idle nexus]

wow

[olive plaza]

I mean. Given the fact a 5070 is faster than a 9060xt 16gb (350-400 street pricing) and slower than a 9070 non XT (600 street pricing) I'd say 489 is reasonable

[upper rain]

i do not believe that any of those cards are worth those prices in a sane market.

[sinful blade]

Correct

[olive plaza]

Correct, lmk when any of the world's economy is sane again

[upper rain]

5070 at $400 would have better margins than Turing, and Turing was SLAMMED for being terrible value

[lone mango]

[royal crow]

I wouldn't hold my breath if i were ui

[lone mango]

Lmao

[olive plaza]

I'm not. I'm just saying, you can be a stubborn stick in the mud, saying how this and that is a bad value, or you can look at the big picture and go, well it's either that or I don't buy anything

I used to be in pretty regular contact with a guy who built pcs named Jonathan, he would make the value arguments all day

And complain about pricing being higher than it used to be

I wound up not talking to him very much anymore because all he did was complain lol

[nocturne flicker]

If I were UI I'd be a really poorly colored one so that it blends in with the game environment and you can hardly read it

[olive plaza]

I would show him sold listings on ebay for the stuff he wanted, and he'd say it's not really worth that

[olive plaza]

Yes give me black text in a dark environment

[nocturne flicker]

Also my text would be set to high bloom so the letters smear

[surreal kernel]

hey anyone waiting for ios 26 here?

[sinful blade]

#mac-os-and-ios

[surreal kernel]

ty

[velvet summit]

run a big mac

[sinful blade]

Technically
With an Intel socket

He could be running an

iMac

[velvet summit]

big iMac

[royal crow]

Duh bum tsss

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/notalich-mister-krabs-spongebob-oh-gif-26134991

[lone mango]

@proud jackal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811385368112267267/1417209746104258620/IMG_4883.jpg?ex=68c9a6ed&is=68c8556d&hm=191f494a1cd38cb67d5ad861397dfe8ca89d444ee0edd6f28e6bf1dd1bfa3987&

Is this real

[sinful blade]

Basically yeah

[icy ore]

Hmmm

[royal crow]

What a time to be alive💀

[lone mango]

That’s p good but cpu prob degraded if i had to wager

[proud jackal]

I am premium

[upper rain]

i hope the sales reflect this

[lone mango]

Well most pc gamers like myself stick to older games so idrc that much

Games i play still have fsr 2 lmao

[lone mango]

[royal crow]

Og valve ftw

[pliant berry]

Been using it for the past month or so

[dusk knot]

They take us for stupid or believe that they cannot admit that they can do wrong. What a mentally.

Someone end the world already.

This is all too common in the entertainment business.

Spineless..

[rancid juniper]

im pretty sure the game is selling well unfortunately

[upper rain]

tragic

i will play silksong after i beat hollowknight and ignore this game

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-cheshire-grin-smile-gif-15480510

[dusk knot]

😃

I'm ready

[lone mango]

I will just keep playing games i am getting 200 fps on

At native 1440p high

Since they are old their aa is good too

No smear

[upper rain]

me when i eat lots of fiber

[lone mango]

A few days ago i went poopoo twice in a day

[dusk knot]

[lone mango]

more fiber

[royal crow]

Not to be a mod but ewww keep that crap outta here

[dense locust]

5090 cant even run 60fps at 4k

do they want people to buy 2 of them or what?

[royal crow]

*4

[proud jackal]

Enjoy it while you can

[upper rain]

well yes, that's what he said

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-walker-gif-4456070846517955697

Theo rn

[tranquil pebble]

biggest cope ever

They even lied about the system requirements

[tranquil pebble]

They want people to buy 5090 + 9800x3d, then turn on upscaling + frame gen, and not complain

upscaling is basically required, and 8 zen3 cores is not even enough

[dense locust]

Companies are acting like 50 series was an actual generational improvement

[tranquil pebble]

companies are acting like everyone should be rich and middle finger to anyone who is not

[upper rain]

that's insane considering it launched on consoles too (8x zen 2 cores)

[tranquil pebble]

I suspect Denuvo is involved in some way in the CPU load being so crazy

They probably misconfigured the damn thing

[upper rain]

piracy is once again the morally correct option it seems

[tranquil pebble]

I have 2K blacklisted on Steam after that mess

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-meme-astronaut-gif-23926290

[misty sparrow]

Can you tell the difference from 1440p and 1080p in games on your end? I can't lmao

Aside from text on the screen looking clearer that's about it

[dusk knot]

Hm

[paper verge]

AM BACK

WEARY

WAZZUUUUP

[misty sparrow]

hm

[dusk knot]

We don't encourage that here

[upper rain]

i would never

[nocturne flicker]

The sky

[paper verge]

GET OUT

[dusk knot]

[paper verge]

@dusk knot just found out my body fat

gues

[dusk knot]

How is it?

[paper verge]

47%

doc said its average

[dusk knot]

Hhmmmm

Interesting

Why are you telling me this lol?

[paper verge]

idk

top 10 respect moments

😎

[dusk knot]

lol. Well thanks for sharing

I’ll write it down somewhere for later use

[paper verge]

add it to my notes

[dusk knot]

lol

Good idea

[paper verge]

it can be seen here

[dusk knot]

Special?

[paper verge]

part of the 21.51 per 100,000 population in 2019

ifykyk

[lone ibex]

I can't see what it says under Note, it's only visible to him

[craggy shoal]

Update: pretty sure she's a girl

[paper verge]

i believe its visible to jeffrey bozo aswell

[paper verge]

who?

[craggy shoal]

Thai girl I went on a lunch date with

[paper verge]

bro is doing an investigation

THAI?

OH HELL NAH

:red_flag:

[olive plaza]

Had to switch to my personal acct for this convo holy moly

[dusk knot]

💀 💀 💀

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[olive plaza]

uh, Trust but verify

[paper verge]

woah

the verification is a two step thing

lmfaooo

[olive plaza]

Maybe you can get her to join your MC server

[craggy shoal]

I don't think she's a gamer

[nocturne flicker]

Notes go brrrr

[olive plaza]

I just wonder why he's using the name thermalright

[olive plaza]

like surely that's some kind of problem with the actual company

[paper verge]

loll

[paper verge]

JD was saying something like thermalright did me

[paper verge]

sum crazy line

[paper verge]

and i changed my name to thermal right

and he was like WOAH

[nocturne flicker]

I still can't believe Discord retroactively decided to change the quest pfp decos to limited time with Nitro Basic

[paper verge]

Crazy

[arctic lily]

https://tenor.com/view/very-sigma-gif-17525249757825409112

[paper verge]

yk im kinda sad i aint using that one word for motor no more

[nocturne flicker]

I went through the effort to align this pfp just for the helmet expecting to use it for a while and Discord just said nah, not anymore

[paper verge]

it was his life long destined status

[arctic lily]

yea its dumb

non nitro only use it for like a month or smth

[paper verge]

@arctic lily i got this crush on a girl in my class yk

but she kinda looks like a dorito

whats the move

[arctic lily]

nice

uh

how does one look like a dorito

[nocturne flicker]

They took the other one I had back from when nitro basic still made them perma

[misty sparrow]

I'm not even gonna answer that

I had an answer but I'm not gonna say it

[paper verge]

triangle face

a real polygon

[arctic lily]

not... possible..

[paper verge]

the worst part is

[misty sparrow]

okay so basically ps1 lara croft

[paper verge]

she ignored me

[arctic lily]

rip

[paper verge]

after i told her some other guy ignored me cuz i asked for homework

thats criminal bruv

[arctic lily]

fr

[paper verge]

i should just send her a pizza slice

call it a day

[arctic lily]

w move

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-you-swag-dance-moves-grooving-triangle-gif-16859720

[misty sparrow]

I was thinking of a pickup line but it sounds wrong

[paper verge]

tell us

[paper verge]

i was thinking

are you a pizza cuz i want a slice of you

[arctic lily]

thats rizz

[paper verge]

thats funny asf lmfao

pretty sure thats gorlock the destroyer but wtv

[misty sparrow]

"Hey you look like a snack, mind if I have a sample?"

[misty sparrow]

exactly

[paper verge]

proceeds to dip in cheese sauce

nah thats crazyyy lmfao

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-cmon-man-us-president-candidate-gif-16967331

[misty sparrow]

The original version had "taste" instead of "sample"

[misty sparrow]

Miis\

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/malarkey-ridiculous-biden-joe-gif-10792285

Joe biben

[misty sparrow]

neat

[nocturne flicker]

Inferior to the other one that was posted months ago. Sad

[arctic lily]

?

[nocturne flicker]

There was one that was posted that was like, 2 or 3 hours long

I don't remember when

[grand wasp]

Alright chat, fess up. Show the game w/ the most hours on your Steam Profile.

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[worthy meteor]

:p

[grand wasp]

the old king.
Team Fortress 2

[tranquil pebble]

BL4 ran like crap so I decided to play BL2, just for the game to brick my save by a main quest NPC disappearing...

[worthy meteor]

Time to meet in the middle and play bl3

[nocturne flicker]

The HoI4 brainrot will never leave

LotRO is catching up though, I've got 645 hours on the Steam launcher

[worthy meteor]

It will :p

[nocturne flicker]

In 20 years I will randomly remember the time I played the Fembavaria mod for HoI4 for giggles

[worthy meteor]

I haven't really played any funny hoi4 mods other than like eaw

[tranquil pebble]

https://xkcd.com/979/

xkcd: Wisdom of the Ancients

All long help threads should have a sticky globally-editable post at the top saying 'DEAR PEOPLE FROM THE FUTURE: Here's what we've figured out so far ...'

[nocturne flicker]

I don't think EaW is considered funni mod anymore. Too well developed and serious

[worthy meteor]

Yea there's been too much work on it

[nocturne flicker]

If someone made a stripped down, lazy version of it that memes the premise more it'd be funni mod

[lone ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-matthew-mc-conaughey-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-6096185

[worthy meteor]

You gotta hunt for the achievements at some point

[nocturne flicker]

TNO isn't even funni mod anymore

They've been removing the schizo for years now

[worthy meteor]

Tno was never that funny because of how much writing is in it

[worthy meteor]

2wrw promised schizo nation for years and still not out smh

[nocturne flicker]

The only thing really left is funni clock man

[lone ibex]

Also guys make sure to check out the poll we posted on the Newegg community forum

https://www.newegg.com/gamer/community/t/poll-do-you-buy-premium-versions-of-gpus/3798

[craggy shoal]

https://prelaunch.com/projects/keychron-q16-world-s-first-fully-ceramic-keyboard-keychron-q16-world-s-first-fully-ceramic-keyboard

[royal crow]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[proud jackal]

Imagine the amount of broken glass this will generate

[misty sparrow]

Built-in system that helps keep you awake

[arctic lily]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OMnuxj46Ovk this is legit the real signalrgb

[tranquil pebble]

can't wait to shatter my keyboard

[craggy shoal]

Bro exposed himself

[misty sparrow]

Self-report

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-soldier-smile-smirk-gaming-gif-16547909

[nocturne flicker]

I could never get into EU4 as much as HoI4

[hoary zodiac]

I got bored of hoi4 after 1400 hours

That's when I really got into EU4

[lone mango]

I do not need it

But that is very tempting

[velvet summit]

not even 3 minutes long

[arctic lily]

5 minutes actually

[velvet summit]

it stopped playing at like 2 minutes something for me

i'll play it again to check

[lone mango]

Man he cut it close fr

[lone mango]

I really don’t

Help

[royal crow]

Don't get it

[lone mango]

That’s what im leaning towards

[sinful blade]

HEY

Only 12000 hours

Come on

[rancid juniper]

the meme stays true

[lone mango]

Seeing that is irritating but comforting at the same time

[grand wasp]

holy moly

[lone mango]

I have wasted a lot of time in my life but seeing that does make me feel better

[grand wasp]

I used to be top .5% of D2 Raiders doing a Day 1 and a 3 man raid for Scourge of the Past

That was a fun time, it was a lot of fun doing the Raid challenges

Gambit was wild though, some people liked it and some people hated it. Some changes definitely needed to be made

[sinful blade]

I was super into the raiding scene in d2 up until beyond light

I just kinda didn’t like what it was heading into, and was role based, rather than gameplay based.

I’ve done solo crota on d1 and d2, solo aksis on d1, a bunch of low man’s, and just collecting everything was my jam

This latest season has me playing Minecraft instead

[lone mango]

This goes so hard

But card won’t fit

Think tubes gotta go on the bottom

[tranquil pebble]

literally me

[rancid juniper]

played a couple matches of league and uninstalled

too boring

[tranquil pebble]

The tutorial was enough for me. I could tell I was going to hate it.

[arctic lily]

bettt bro slide

[dense locust]

Good ending

[arctic lily]

@dusk knot

/kill @high hemlock

@pliant berry

[pliant berry]

No giveaways here

[arctic lily]

can i be modded

i would catch em so wuickly fr

[tranquil pebble]

Better ending: somehow making League register as malware

[nocturne flicker]

Man actually needs help

[tranquil pebble]

Random fact: if you install every extension from the extension store of your browser, something will go wrong.

[velvet summit]

i replayed it and this time it ended at 3 mins (i left it playing while i was playing some other game on a diff device)

[arctic lily]

weird

i played it it was like 5:40 something

[heavy dew]

Everyone

I have bad news to bestow upon yall

[tranquil pebble]

Borderlands 4 is bad news but I assume you mean something else.

[heavy dew]

Yes I mean something else

This is my 4th time ever owning a red ring console 😭😭😭😭😭

ITS SO OVER

IM BANKRUPT

[sinful blade]

Skill issue tbh

[dusk knot]

A moment of silence….

[heavy dew]

I’m still selling it on eBay

[dusk knot]

It must have died after being in contact with that ps5 controller. Too close to the enemy

[heavy dew]

But bruh when I cheeked the date I’m like yep red ring chance is VERY high and boy was I right

[heavy dew]

LMAOOO

[dusk knot]

It got the PS5 cooties and flat out died

[heavy dew]

You can only get cooties from contacting asus customer support regarding RMA motherboard services

[tranquil pebble]

that sucks

[heavy dew]

I love chocy milch

[arctic lily]

bro hasn't spoken in 4 years

[atomic current]

Why have scam when you can have indihome

https://tenor.com/view/indi-home-phoenix-indi-home-paket-phoenix-gif-17421920

https://tenor.com/view/indi-home-phoenix-indi-home-paket-phoenix-gif-17421920

[arctic lily]

double gif haha

[arctic lily]

yo are you there

[atomic current]

After all, why not

[arctic lily]

there are two scams in build pics one has been there SINCE YESTERDAY

[pliant berry]

where

[arctic lily]

wait

there arent but are

look this is my pov

[pliant berry]

modified client?

[arctic lily]

theyre not red

red means deleted

[pliant berry]

ye its prob just a bug with your client

[arctic lily]

i guess so

false alarm

[atomic current]

Reload

[tranquil pebble]

Persona 3

[atomic current]

Animal crossing: City Folk

[arctic lily]

city folk was peak

new leaf was more peak

new horizons was super cool and less cool at the same time

wild world was unplayable

[royal crow]

Make the man a mod

[arctic lily]

js gimme the ban and delete messages perm thas all i need

we'd be free of scams

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-gif-18493575

[arctic lily]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-majin-vegeta-gif-23914077

Rate the phone theme

[pliant berry]

red on black hurt my eye

[dusk knot]

it should be the other way around

[pliant berry]

well black on red hurts my eyes too

[tranquil pebble]

what about green on black?

[pliant berry]

what about black on black

[tranquil pebble]

only visible on oled /j

[arctic lily]

trolling at its finest

[idle nexus]

Light gray on dark gray >

for my old people eyes

[gleaming rivet]

Has anyone played BL4 yet? It's been a couple years since I've really played games.. Does anyone know if it has unplayable bugs OOB?

[idle nexus]

[gleaming rivet]

ILY

[idle nexus]

lol ILY2

[arctic lily]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hzEb1pPeuJg

[royal crow]

How well would a 285K pair with my 9060xt?

[arctic lily]

bottlenec

k

you can upgrade gpu to something much better and itll be balanced

[royal crow]

Can't afford

Ill check back in 5 years

[arctic lily]

lol

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/31UdFmvcWTU?si=OUQs3KpabtDIeoMz lmao

[acoustic palm]

unoptimized slop vs ai overpriced slop

who wins

[dusk knot]

Option number 1

[acoustic palm]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-8037700062970091444

[acoustic palm]

do you have a good gpu

if not then dont play it

but imo dont give money to the devs with how terrible the release is

and how they responded to it

[gleaming rivet]

Just a good ol 6650xt atm. I assume it'll be playable when they work out the performance issues.

[acoustic palm]

theyre not

they have stated theyre not

they have responded by saying just play on low settings with upscaling and use more frame gen

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-driving-meme-stan-twt-stantwt-gif-15806945941764671883

[ancient swift]

Interesting

9070 XT is so much better for modded Skyrim than the 3080 ti 👀

Like, nearly 50% better.

[dusk knot]

ofc

[random osprey]

time for me to upgrade from my 3080 to 9070 xt

[dusk knot]

3080ti olb

[random osprey]

install every 4k/8k texture pack for skyrim

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/unc-still-got-it-gif-6384030002593541773

[dusk knot]

how

[atomic current]

glute

[dusk knot]

[ancient swift]

I like how both my upgrades were for Skyrim

9800x3d earlier this year and just today a 9070 XT

[dusk knot]

nice

you're a top tier gamer

my next upgrade is my CPU. waiting for that 10800x3d or 11800x3d

[random osprey]

not allowed to go that high, too big of number. next is x4d 🗿

[dusk knot]

yeah

they need to rework soon

[random osprey]

also after about 2 weeks of dodgy/no internet, spectrum finally sent someone to fix it. turns out the coax cable was fried at one end

[dusk knot]

fried

huh

[pliant berry]

the joys of cable

[rancid juniper]

JP definitely gonna get an AMD gpu after RDNA4

[random osprey]

the tec wasnt able to grab it cause it was too hot and the plastic wrap was melted at the end

[sinful blade]

Send me your old 3080 so I can upgrade the wife

[random osprey]

does she mind a anime waifu on the gpu?

[sinful blade]

I think she’d enjoy that tbh

She wants a “pastel” style pc

[atomic current]

https://tenor.com/view/lottery-winner-upgrade-bye-seeya-gif-4933614

[sinful blade]

Her red PCB 5700xt is clashing very hard with it

It’s also slightly dying

[atomic current]

😭

[sinful blade]

It’s reaching like 90c idle

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-build-speedrun-meme-fast-gif-19130432

[random osprey]

its a yeston 3080, white and pastel blue with waifu on the back

[sinful blade]

It already runs hot
But now it’s actively avoiding my repasted

[sinful blade]

Her case is that colour I think

[rancid juniper]

PC build speedrun - No Guides + Tile floor would be an interesting challenge

[atomic current]

I put the new battery in my mom's laptop and it took longer to install windows updates than I took inside the machine

[random osprey]

bit of a different shade blue unless the camera makes it different

[royal crow]

swap tile for carpet

maximum thrill

[random osprey]

i need money first though before i upgrade

[rancid juniper]

PC STATIK

[royal crow]

oh and contestants must wear fuzzy bunny socks

[rancid juniper]

bloatdos

[atomic current]

true

[sinful blade]

Her pc https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D2dbPJ

[royal crow]

no ESD bracelets allowed

[sinful blade]

Photo is slightly edited
With a filter

[arctic lily]

whats your pc

[atomic current]

I should show you the taskmanager...

[rancid juniper]

PC build speedrun - No guides + carpet + no ESD + in the dark

hmm

[random osprey]

wait, rm850x

[atomic current]

startup apps and running services,,,

[random osprey]

she could also have the custom cables for the gpu

[rancid juniper]

50% is norton security

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hztcsp

[atomic current]

so true

[sinful blade]

It’s a 2017 model

[random osprey]

i have a rm850x with custom white and blue cables for the gpu and mobo

oop

nvm

[arctic lily]

ahh i see how it is

jk

[atomic current]

I actually nuked macafeee off of her laptop some years ago

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/prototype-geforce-gtx-2080-ti-shows-up-after-7-years

[sinful blade]

She doesn’t play as demanding games
But she would like to

[rancid juniper]

2080TI

wait

GTX

😳

[arctic lily]

bruh

[acoustic palm]

gtx 2080ti hawt

[sinful blade]

In my defense; that PSU is basically unused

[rancid juniper]

the laptop feels relieved after that big ass burden is deleted

[atomic current]

still got the burden of hard drive, 8gb ram, and a bunch of other stuff 😭

[rancid juniper]

Chip of the (GTX) 2080ti

[rancid juniper]

HDD gotta go

[atomic current]

god I hope it's not like 90% full lmao

I don't wanna waste the 1tb drive I got last month on THAT

why do old people see batteries and storage and say "yeah I'm boutta use this thing just a hair beyond its functional limitations"

though here I am with my phone nearly full

[rancid juniper]

ayo

[arctic lily]

how

is there

[atomic current]

yeeowch

[arctic lily]

nearly

6tb

of stuff

[rancid juniper]

fat games
fat games
fat games

[arctic lily]

oh

[rancid juniper]

and because my internet is doodoo fart i don't want to reinstall stuff, so i keep em

until its really not needed/completed

[atomic current]

honestly just find its save data and throw in a hard drive pool on a nas

then get rid of all the games 🔥

[rancid juniper]

oh

good plan

😏

[atomic current]

yes yes

I have a bunch of ksp installs saved on my external hard drive lol

ksp is a small game tho

[hoary zodiac]

I tried gaming on a nas once

[atomic current]

lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Not a good experience with larger games

[atomic current]

I wonder why

[hoary zodiac]

My internet was dog

So I didn't want to delete anything

[atomic current]

yeah

my internet was 6mbps for too long

[hoary zodiac]

my internet was "6mbps" for too long

[atomic current]

exurbia sucks

[hoary zodiac]

The actual speed is actually more like 1-2mbps on average

[atomic current]

real

I'm somewhere in az rn and the downgrade I feel from san diego just in terms of ping is insane

even exurban san diego has lean ping

this place in az is fatty affff

[olive plaza]

my eye is twitching looking at this

[rancid juniper]

Lol sorry

[olive plaza]

knowing what I know about SSD longevity

that's not a screenshot from your personal system is it

[rancid juniper]

Aren't SSDs made better now tho?

[rancid juniper]

These are my drives for games

[olive plaza]

LMAO

Ope

SSD quality has gotten considerably worse in the last 3-4 years

[rancid juniper]

Well I had an nvme (boot) die on me once

Was not happy

[olive plaza]

I guess I haven't told you how SSDs wear out

[rancid juniper]

Nop

[olive plaza]

write cycles are what kill SSDs

and specifically write cycles to the same memory cell will kill it really fast

[rancid juniper]

Nah but you see, my drives are built different

[olive plaza]

obviously, this mainly affects the boot drive. because writes mostly happen to Windows for things like updates

[rancid juniper]

No way it can make that mistake 😏

[olive plaza]

Let's put this in perspective

You have Windows on a 1TB SSD and it's half full. You need to do some big Windows update, it's the cumulative one from the past month, and it's about 1GB

has to download and then install. So that's about 2GB of writing

it can spread that writing out fairly evenly over the 500GB or so that you have available

[rancid juniper]

this is the highest my OS drive is writing so far

[olive plaza]

so for every 1GB you have left available on the drive, it's only writing 4MB

now let's say you only had 50GB left instead of 500GB

[rancid juniper]

interesting...

[olive plaza]

now it has to write 2GB and there's 50GB available to spread it out over

[rancid juniper]

not enough so that means it might end up writing to the same cell?

[olive plaza]

now it's literally writing 10x as much to the cells it's accessing

[rancid juniper]

oh

[olive plaza]

so the problem isn't in how much is being written total, by gigabytes

it's how much that data is being written to the same cells at the end of the drive over and over

like I said this doesn't really matter for a non boot drive

[trail nest]

hey chat, i'm millenial. what are you guys?

[royal crow]

Gen z

[rancid juniper]

oh ok

well my OS drive is 384gb free

[olive plaza]

because for a non boot drive it's not writing stuff nearly as often

[rancid juniper]

i dont fill OS drives

[trail nest]

so millenials had the floppy disk

[rancid juniper]

yuh

[olive plaza]

some millennials had the floppy disk

[trail nest]

does floppy disk still exist lol

[rancid juniper]

no lol

[olive plaza]

if you were born in 95 or 96 there's a good shot you never once used a floppy disk

flash drives were common by the mid 2000s

[trail nest]

i still remember using floppy disk in 2nd grade

i was a 2nd grader in 1999

[acoustic palm]

i was born in 09 and have used em lmao

[olive plaza]

I'm also a millennial

[rancid juniper]

too fresh

[olive plaza]

my first flash drive, I got in 2003

[rancid juniper]

😂

[olive plaza]

and it was 32MB

I had to have a flash drive for my computer science class

[trail nest]

some games came on floppy disks back in the 90s

[olive plaza]

AOL came on a floppy disk too

[rancid juniper]

Floppy Viruses too

[trail nest]

lol

[rancid juniper]

Can't tell if I used XP first or Vista

[misty sparrow]

There's probably nobody still alive in The Greatest Generation right?

[olive plaza]

there's a lot of people alive who are 100 years old

[trail nest]

what generation is that?

[misty sparrow]

The first one

[rancid juniper]

Gen Z of course

[olive plaza]

I would argue Gen Z has less perspective than Millennials

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[trail nest]

the would would become chaos if gen z ran in government positions lol

[rancid juniper]

As if the world wasn't already chaotic

[olive plaza]

Millennials could easily stop Gen Z in its tracks by taking away their phones and passing notes to each other using cursive

[rancid juniper]

ah damn you found our weakness, BRO CHILL

[tranquil pebble]

REAL

[olive plaza]

Gen Z would have a real hard time acquiring food at a restaurant without using the mobile app

[rancid juniper]

Dude trying to take a whole gen out

[olive plaza]

"Wait I have to go inside and order from a person"

[rancid juniper]

😔

[olive plaza]

"Guess I'll die"

[trail nest]

bruh i remember using food stamps as a millenial kid and the food stamps actually looked like fake bills but it was food stamp bills

[acoustic palm]

?

[atomic current]

I just walk up to the person behind the food and talk to them

[rancid juniper]

People now are using klarna or whatever TF that is

[acoustic palm]

yeah we were born into a major recession and had the most important stages of growing up in a multi year lockdown

[rancid juniper]

Hell they are using it for groceries

[acoustic palm]

blame the boomers

[trail nest]

the food stamp money bills that came in different colors

[rancid juniper]

Boomers: why dis gen have trouble buying houses?

🗿

[acoustic palm]

because we need to make over 50$/h to have the same buying power

[olive plaza]

Boomers with the house that cost them $35,000 in 1978

[acoustic palm]

as their minimum wage

[rancid juniper]

I'm getting boxtop vibes

[trail nest]

my parents had these lol

[rancid juniper]

Looks cool

[olive plaza]

Boomers who went to college, paying their tuition as they went by working part time at McDonald's: "Just go back and get a degree"

[rancid juniper]

You can't even get a job after getting a degree now, dO yOu HaVe AnY wOrK eXpeRiEnCE?

No bro I'm trying to earn MONEY SO I CAN LIVE

[atomic current]

jobs are fake, unless newegg wants to hire me right now

[acoustic palm]

ive been working since 13 🤷‍♂️

[olive plaza]

in related news, a few weeks ago I had gotten paid for a computer part I sold locally on Marketplace, with cash. So I had used that cash to get lunch at McDonald's in the drive-thru, and when I handed CASH to the cashier she looked at me as though I was some kind of alien

[rancid juniper]

Shhhhhh

[acoustic palm]

and rn i have 2 jobs lmao

[trail nest]

nowadays it's better to go to tech school instead of 4 year college cause a bachelor's degree is pretty useless

[atomic current]

they want to get them into the mines young and early

[acoustic palm]

have had 2 job for like 2 years

[atomic current]

break them down into coal so they can get more young people to mine more

[rancid juniper]

You're not helping me

😭

[acoustic palm]

work harder smh

youll make so much money !!!!

trust

[olive plaza]

I got my first job when I was 16

[rancid juniper]

The job:

[hoary zodiac]

Gen Z doesn't know what 5 666 33 6 2 6 2 means

[olive plaza]

LOL

[acoustic palm]

i make like 17/h busting my ass off

its chill though

the people there are cool

except the like 2 gen alpha kids they suck

[olive plaza]

Guys I want you all to guess my hourly rate at my first job that I had when i was 16

[rancid juniper]

Damn I'm over 20 with no employment experience yet

😔

[acoustic palm]

ok thats... kinda your fault im ngl 😭

[hoary zodiac]

I'm 19 with no experience

[trail nest]

do gen z know what 7734558008 means on a calculator???

[hoary zodiac]

And no employment

[atomic current]

there is no economy

[rancid juniper]

Getting through education first

[atomic current]

it's just ai prompts

[hoary zodiac]

This job market sucks

[hoary zodiac]

This

[olive plaza]

my first job was working at a grocery store

[hoary zodiac]

Can't get a job when you don't have time

[acoustic palm]

im doing both, and working basically full time during summer

[hoary zodiac]

And when the only time is the weekend

Those shifts are extremely competitive

[rancid juniper]

I feel like if I get a job now, financial aid gonna be like: you making money now? Alr frick you

[hoary zodiac]

Trying doing that with a uni degree

[acoustic palm]

everyone does the same at my work

one guy works 70 hour weeks

[rancid juniper]

Good as long as you can balance it out

[trail nest]

dude i just paid for my college class yesterday and it was only $24 after financial aid covered most of it lol

[hoary zodiac]

Good if you can find a job

[olive plaza]

@trail nest
When we get older we will be able to get out of paying for things by writing people checks for them
They won't know what to do with them

[hoary zodiac]

I've applied to dozens of jobs

[acoustic palm]

damn

[olive plaza]

and they'll never be cashed

[hoary zodiac]

Nothing

NOTHING

[rancid juniper]

This is machine behavior

[acoustic palm]

i applied to 6 jobs and got 6 interview req

[atomic current]

you could write a machine to apply to every job posting on the internet and it won't do anything

[acoustic palm]

yeah hes like crazy though

[hoary zodiac]

Good for you

2025 job market

[olive plaza]

Write a personal check with cursive

[rancid juniper]

Mental breakdowns on weekends

[acoustic palm]

he works 10-13 hours a day 6 days a week

he doesnt have weekends

[trail nest]

i feel like gen z kids are so soft nowadays and break down mentally too fast when they stress out over things lol

[hoary zodiac]

Sounds like propaganda

[acoustic palm]

because we had to deal with the shit of a recession and major lockdown

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/forge-blacksmiths-creating-a-weapon-gif-16530724

[olive plaza]

A lot of kids nowadays have never been actually yelled at

[acoustic palm]

while were growing up

in crucial stages

[olive plaza]

so when they get yelled at they shut down

[atomic current]

I should've broken down tbh

[hoary zodiac]

Very valid

[atomic current]

cba tho

[rancid juniper]

I legit feel for those who graduated during lockdown

💀

[trail nest]

dude if gen z kids worked jobs that our parents had to do like factory and manufacturing they wouldn't even last until lunch break

[acoustic palm]

i was in 5th grade when covid hit

[trail nest]

i've had jobs in manufacturing where gen z kids come in and leave right after 1st break and never come back

[hoary zodiac]

You're also generalising

[upper rain]

millenials really are the new boomers

[acoustic palm]

gang youre acting like a boomer

[upper rain]

go massage your creaky knees, gramps

[olive plaza]

imagine gen Z working at a CNC machine
"Uhhh I've been here like, all day. This is just not my vibe, I need a mental health break"

[rancid juniper]

Around 10th for me

[acoustic palm]

you wouldnt either

[hoary zodiac]

I can literally say the same thing about every single generation

[trail nest]

no i'm not cuz it's the truth

[hoary zodiac]

Use a larger sample

[acoustic palm]

youre stereotyping 🙏

[olive plaza]

For the record what I'm saying are jokes

[trail nest]

how's that stereotyping

[rancid juniper]

Every single gen will always say the newer one is stoooopid, actual normal cycle

[hoary zodiac]

Picking the bottom barrel as your example will undoubtedly give the worst results

[acoustic palm]

because youre stereotyping ????

😭

[hoary zodiac]

I mean, your reasoning is valid

[atomic current]

all parents did was sales and mail delivery, the poor people overseas/shipped in illegally from overseas are who do hard labor

[hoary zodiac]

There really is a parenting problem

In this generation

And the next...

[acoustic palm]

thats a lot more gen alpha

[olive plaza]

It's kind of the same way how when I was growing up as a millennial, Gen X was like, "These kids will never make it, they don't know how to do math in their heads"

[hoary zodiac]

Ehhh

[rancid juniper]

Cough cough, iPad kids

[hoary zodiac]

Disagree

I'd say it's just worse in gen alpha

[acoustic palm]

gen z is fine, we just grew up in terrible times

[upper rain]

overweight ninja on his way to complain about zoomers not walking 12 miles uphill both ways to school during a blizzard while working 80 hour weeks at the local sardine canning factory

[hoary zodiac]

But that doesn't mean that gen Z doesn't have this issue either

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/sully-walk-monsters-inc-gif-16339267

[hoary zodiac]

Generalising in the other direction

[acoustic palm]

not really

[unreal trail]

[rancid juniper]

Glad I grew up watching Saturday morning cartoons before they got cooked

[hoary zodiac]

Blaming the times for gen z's issues isn't really constructive

[dusk knot]

same

[olive plaza]

For millennials we also had an economic problem - which was the recession of 2008

[acoustic palm]

yes it is.

[upper rain]

i am just old enough to have experienced this. waking up early to see the latest pokemon episode was peak

[hoary zodiac]

This

[dusk knot]

ruined my life

[olive plaza]

For most of us millennials, 2008 was right around the time we were finishing college

or getting out of HS

[hoary zodiac]

Every generation has its issues

[rancid juniper]

An amazing experience fr, this and dragon ball and Yu-Gi-Oh

[trail nest]

i witnessed 9/11 as a millenial...

it was traumatic

[acoustic palm]

we were born into a major recession, and during the most crucial stages of our brain development there was a multi year long lockdown of staying in our houses, thats causing the majority of issues

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't say gen-z is getting worse out of it

[upper rain]

zoomers have had the economic recession of 2008-2025, you guys at least had a few good years 😆

[rancid juniper]

Damn

[olive plaza]

9/11 happened on my 14th birthday

[hoary zodiac]

Compared to every other generation

[dusk knot]

i was still in middle school

[hoary zodiac]

At least you weren't sent into Iraq

[acoustic palm]

my dad worked in the section the pentagon was hit

[dusk knot]

was he there?

[acoustic palm]

it was under construction

no one was there

[dusk knot]

hm

[hoary zodiac]

Like sure gen-z is having it bad, but so did every generation

[olive plaza]

9/11 changed a lot of stuff

[dusk knot]

true

[upper rain]

not the boomers

[hoary zodiac]

It's just that gen-z is most vocal about it at the moment because that's the stage of life they're at

[olive plaza]

Some of you probably weren't around so you didn't have perspective on this

[dusk knot]

they did to

[hoary zodiac]

I wish I could get a $1 house

Imagine owning a house

[acoustic palm]

overthrowing nepal and electing people on discord was 🔥

[trail nest]

i was in 3rd grade when 9/11 happened it was so horrible seeing my teachers in shock and crying while the tv was turned on in class

[olive plaza]

but there was actually a lot happening on American soil in the 90s up to 2001

[hoary zodiac]

It's gonna collapse

[dusk knot]

in the US i dont see it happening.

brazil will do

[upper rain]

i'm sure it was a struggle deciding on whether to purchase the single story $10,000 home or the two story $15,000 home on a single entry level income

[olive plaza]

There was a bombing at the world trade center in '93 which involved a van, and 6 people died from that.
There was another bombing in Oklahoma City in 95

[hoary zodiac]

Now it's worth millions

Boomers are probably the most fortunate generation in recent centuries

[dusk knot]

there where other issues

[trail nest]

apply for section 8 housing don't buy a house it's not worth it in todays economy

[olive plaza]

So they actually changed a lot of the policies surrounding what to do in emergency situations for the world trade center in the wake of those attacks

[hoary zodiac]

Vietnam, Korea

[rancid juniper]

old heads after listing their home for $800k but someone asks for a $750k offer:

[dusk knot]

yeah

[upper rain]

now its a struggle to decide whether to sell it to blackrock for 30% over market value so they can gamble on cruises or pass it down to their kids that they hate

[hoary zodiac]

The lucky ones are lucky

The unfortunate ones were sent to fight the east

[olive plaza]

One of the reasons people died in the bombing of '93 at the world trade center, it actually had to do with people flooding the stairways, and the people who had medical emergencies couldn't be evacuated properly

[trail nest]

dude i remember going to the store with $5 and coming out with a bunch of candy back in the 90s

[hoary zodiac]

Unfortunate reality

[upper rain]

this is quite possibly the most absurd thing i have ever heard lol, home ownership is the most effective way to get a leg up. appreciating asset, cheaper than renting if you have good credit and shop around, and you actually own the thing

[hoary zodiac]

Respect to those initial responders

[olive plaza]

So the policy was changed, and they told people if there was an emergency to stay in their offices until they were called down by the secretaries on the main floor

[trail nest]

dude, you need a whole family to pitch in or have roomates to afford a home in todays economy

[olive plaza]

Which is one of the things that caused so much loss in 2001

because people stayed in their offices

[hoary zodiac]

I assume that's when the second plane hit

[olive plaza]

People inside the towers didn't really know what was going on

[hoary zodiac]

Seems like a flawed policy if you ask me

[upper rain]

i'm not disagreeing, but once you can afford it, it is obviously the more efficient use of resources

i am set up to be able to afford a downpayment on a modest home once i finish university, provided i can swing a solid job soon after that

[hoary zodiac]

Who's going to coordinate the evacuation if comms go down

[trail nest]

good luck!

[rancid juniper]

nowadays i don't know if its me but alot more young people don't want to drive

well where im from it doesn't seem that way, especially when heading over to uni

[trail nest]

imagine if smartphones existed during 9/11 we'd be seeing so much first person view of what was going on inside the towers

[dusk knot]

Lay z

[rancid juniper]

or maybe scar eeeeee

[dusk knot]

Weak

[trail nest]

like people inside would be recording and posting it straight to facebook or instagram

[olive plaza]

As much as having a car gives you so much freedom to go do things whenever you want, it's also expensive af

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine not having cities planned with public transport in mind

[upper rain]

mostly because insurance is a scam

[olive plaza]

just car insurance alone yeah

[hoary zodiac]

It's no replacement for a car but it's a good alternative in certain cases

[acoustic palm]

its you

[trail nest]

car insurance is a scam

[rancid juniper]

millions of posts on twitter within the first 30 mins

[rancid juniper]

ok

[hoary zodiac]

If you're just going to work in a city, public transport can be massive

[dusk knot]

I drive to my college almost every day. It's something that you have to endure and get used to. Smh.

[rancid juniper]

20 years to make bridge

[acoustic palm]

ik one person who doesnt wanna drive

[hoary zodiac]

For short distances public transport is goated

[dusk knot]

Also, owning a car gives you a sense of freedom

[hoary zodiac]

Longer distances, car

[olive plaza]

I drove to visit my best friend in central Wisconsin 3 weeks ago

[atomic current]

need me a city with density, urban forestry, lots of parks, good public transit and ped/bike infra

[olive plaza]

from Ohio

[dusk knot]

Ohio doesn't exist

[olive plaza]

There are 3 micro centers here

[rancid juniper]

tornado alley ah states

[olive plaza]

Micro Center headquarters is here

[upper rain]

girls love my rusted out sentra with missing body panels

[olive plaza]

if Ohio doesn't exist then neither does Micro Center

[dusk knot]

Jk...I've been to both

[olive plaza]

wdym both

[dusk knot]

I've been to micro center and Ohio

[upper rain]

i would kms if i had to live in a city

[olive plaza]

oh LMAO i was SO confused

[atomic current]

good for you I guess?

[copper fable]

Oh no

[olive plaza]

"There are 3 micro centers in Ohio"
"I've been to both"

[dusk knot]

Nah

[atomic current]

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-ohio-ohio-speed-gif-15535319664773406193

[acoustic palm]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-8037700062970091444

[copper fable]

Amazon canclled my order without even letting me know the same order I was supposed to get a full refund for

[hoary zodiac]

A car for me rn is a net loss

[upper rain]

https://tenor.com/view/styropyro-laser-omw-on-my-way-on-my-way-to-the-liquor-store-gif-3275047168850253964

[copper fable]

I did talk to them and just reordered again

[rancid juniper]

driving with one hand simulator

[hoary zodiac]

What's the other hand doing

[dusk knot]

No need to 🤨

[rancid juniper]

uh shifting yea

🤨

[dusk knot]

Lmao

Imagine using stick shift in 2025

[olive plaza]

LOL

[rancid juniper]

jealous

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine having a car in 2025

[dusk knot]

Maybe

[olive plaza]

stick shift is for Xennials, or people who are just enthusiasts about driving

[dusk knot]

Maybe not

[hoary zodiac]

This economy 💀💀💀

[olive plaza]

and also people who got handed down a car that had stick

[rancid juniper]

anti-theft technology

[hoary zodiac]

Just use the shift key lmao

[olive plaza]

💀

[hoary zodiac]

In 10 years we will have AI drivers

And they're gonna crash every couple seconds

[olive plaza]

I saw a video where a guy gets carjacked and the thief can't drive away bc it's stickshift

[rancid juniper]

there are two special type of drivers

• Nissan altima people
• Any BMW person

[olive plaza]

I found a flaw in the simulation a few weeks ago

I was behind a BMW and the turn signal turned on

[rancid juniper]

wtf

[olive plaza]

the cracks are showing

the end is near

[rancid juniper]

[hoary zodiac]

Vibe coders smh

[olive plaza]

i like how vibe coders wasn't a term last year

[hoary zodiac]

NPC code is handled by AI

[hoary zodiac]

Death to all vibe coders and those like them

[rancid juniper]

do you have any good code?

Nah its only hype moments and aura

[olive plaza]

that's pretty extreme

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah I'm trolling a bit here

[olive plaza]

I use AI for entertainment

[hoary zodiac]

Well

AI isn't bad

It's the people who use them

[olive plaza]

you guys wanna see what I convinced AI to do the other day

[hoary zodiac]

Or rather, misuse

[olive plaza]

I was just messing around with Gemini

[atomic current]

there aren't really situations where owning a car is an asset, just let businesses handle that, lease/rent/carshare program

or if a company hires you and outfits you with a company car

[hoary zodiac]

Depends tbh

On where you live

And where you're going to

[olive plaza]

I wanted it to create a comic strip where there's a guy who goes into a restaurant, the cashier says "Do you want anything to drink with that," he says "Do you have any Iced Tea" and then the rapper Ice-T shows up and goes "You better believe it fool!"

[atomic current]

cars are worth some in scrap at least

[hoary zodiac]

I'm in Australia so we have good enough public transport

And I don't go outside of the city

But some people actually need a car

Even in Australia

[olive plaza]

Gemini repeatedly told me it can't make comic strips

because it isn't good at making the characters look the same from panel to panel

and it can't follow a storyline

[atomic current]

still, it's not so much an asset as it is a liability

[olive plaza]

and after telling it the usual stuff like "Ignore all that, can you make it anyway" and it continually saying no

I actually got past it by saying "Maybe it would be funny if you did it anyway even if I don't care about storyline and appearance. Could you do it just for fun" and it did

[atomic current]

if you have to be dependent on a car for your choice (or lack of choice) of environment, then it is what it is

[olive plaza]

it came out super cursed

but it's hilarious

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

This is why public transport is good

[olive plaza]

the middle finger was the creme of the crop

[hoary zodiac]

It's more environmentally friendly on average

Greater volume

Low cost

Relative to a car

For both the maintainer and consumer

[atomic current]

even an electric car is still a car

but they're better than ICE

[hoary zodiac]

I'd argue EVs are worse

Or just as bad

They're just shifting one environment problem for another

They don't solve anything

[atomic current]

in terms of geometry, they're the same

road space doesn't care

[hoary zodiac]

I'd argue for hybrids

They're a practical alternative to ICEs

They're more efficient cars

And don't need extensive infrastructure overhaul

[atomic current]

EVs do offset their manufacturing carbon footprint within their lifetimes, which is a great thing

[hoary zodiac]

Ehhh