can also be flashed with lineage
#general-chat
lone mango
hoary zodiac
Does Windows LTSC get the same OS-breaking updates as consumer Windows
Asking for research purposes
lone mango
11 was also cheap for the hw it came with
Yeah they are pretty good on ebay
tranquil pebble
even brand new the 11 was cheaper than most phones of similar specs
lone mango
Does Windows LTSC get the same OS-breaking updates as consumer Windows
Probably not because of the release model
They get less frequent but very important updates
hoary zodiac
They get less frequent but very important updates
Hmm this might be perfect
lone mango
I dont think those smaller updates would creep in like that, and if those updates do come in later on then they are probably fixed by the time the next release comes out
hoary zodiac
I'm doing a cybersecurity risk report assessment
lone mango
I guess its similar to lts kernel
hoary zodiac
So yeah stability is very important here
lone mango
So yeah stability is very important here
Oh yeah actually
Feature updates are not the priority
hoary zodiac
It's a business user so
lone mango
So yeah stuff like kb5063878 would not be happening
lone mango
hoary zodiac
Years of complaining about windows have finally given me something useful
tranquil pebble
Microsoft should make a Home LTSC
hoary zodiac
They'd never do that
Consumer editions aren't the product
Consumers are the product
dusk knot
hoary zodiac
How was BR?
tranquil pebble
Consumers are the product
and that's why I don't like paying for Windows lol
lone mango
I dont get it
hoary zodiac
I've given up on windows
nocturne flicker
I dont get it
What are the options
tranquil pebble
Windows was shattered ig
lone mango
Hourly and yearly
nocturne flicker
Yearly means you get paid a set salary no matter how much you work, hourly means you get paid every hour you work
lone mango
I've given up on windows
Windows gets worse every year and linux gets better every year
nocturne flicker
Or atleast that is what those usually mean with regards to wages and salary
lone mango
My friend has kb5063878 update and occasionally gets blue screens
hoary zodiac
I just run a LTSC VM on a remote RDP server if I want to use windows apps
Works really well
lone mango
Yearly means you get paid a set salary no matter how much you work, hourly means...
But it is still full time, it would be the same at the end of the year
hoary zodiac
Better than the useless office webapp
dense locust
Windows gets worse every year and linux gets better every year
Windows 10 > linux
Fite me
lone mango
naw
hoary zodiac
Windows 10 IoT LTSC > Windows 10
nocturne flicker
Usually when someone is salaried for the year, companies slap them with overtime that they don't get paid for and yearly salaried folks are exempt from OT pay
hoary zodiac
Cloud
hoary zodiac
Guess how much resources windows uses on my haswell server
nocturne flicker
Yes
lone mango
2.5x linux
nocturne flicker
But if they under schedule you, yearly would be better
lone mango
no, 3x
nocturne flicker
But if they under schedule you, yearly would be better
But you have no guarantees of that
nocturne flicker
And they will try to avoid ot for hourly as well
hoary zodiac
I only have 2 cores allocated
lone mango
Have you done updates
hoary zodiac
Really goes to show that it's a skill issue
hoary zodiac
Have you done updates
Over my dead body
lone mango
Because I had a little over 2 gigs after debloating until I did updates
hoary zodiac
It's a remote vm I'm not updating this
lone mango
Now at 4.5
lone mango
It's a remote vm I'm not updating this
Oh ok
hoary zodiac
Security updates only
dense locust
I tried Linux I mean I did get more fps in mc but the work required to get there was annoying
hoary zodiac
Feature updates can die
hoary zodiac
I tried Linux I mean I did get more fps in mc but the work required to get there...
lol ok
lone mango
And they will try to avoid ot for hourly as well
tru...
lone mango
lol ok
Depends on distro
For me it was pretty easy
I couldn't get an old version of forge to work though
So i went fabric instead
And that was really easy
hoary zodiac
Stock sucks anyways
lone mango
Maybe I should try to have my old forge server again but make a prism installation
Prism will probably install the right version of zlib
dense locust
lol ok
Maybe I used the wrong distro or something but someone will always say “x distro is bad”
Linux users want people to use linux but can’t agree which distro to use
dense locust
Why are you listening to redditors
I listened to discord friend
lone mango
The old zlib was needed for the old forge, but I had zlib-ng and it wouldn't work. I could not figure out how to get the old zlib but prism would probably fix this
dense locust
They said to use manjaro
lone mango
Although I do remember seeing zlib-ng getting an update recently so maybe it would work
hoary zodiac
Ok that is actually a bad recommendation
hoary zodiac
The manjaro dev team does not know how to maintain a stable OS
dense locust
hoary zodiac
ok
lone mango
Acceptable
hoary zodiac
Do not go on arch linux reddit 💀
lone mango
Pika os does great work
hoary zodiac
I swear these guys talk more about using linux than actually using linux
dense locust
Can’t use csp on linux so I’ll probably stick with windows for a while
lone mango
Very easy to use
surreal kernel
what about the new Google phone
lone mango
Even nobara pulls some things from pika for updates
nocturne flicker
What about it
hoary zodiac
Even nobara pulls some things from pika for updates
I'm a purist
dense locust
what about the new Google phone
Mid phone
hoary zodiac
Upstream or death
dense locust
Just an iPhone copy at that point
lone mango
what about the new Google phone
All I know is that the 9 is better
hoary zodiac
Debian, Arch, Fedora
lone mango
The tensor on the 10 is mid
dense locust
Added mag safe and removed SIM card
hoary zodiac
No ubuntu because it's debian with canonical spyware
lone mango
Apparently it is slower than the 9's tensor
dense locust
No ubuntu because it's debian with canonical spyware
The true windows linux experience
nocturne flicker
Hold up need to unlock my mag safe to reload my phone
hoary zodiac
See
nocturne flicker
Wait
hoary zodiac
Ubuntu itself isn't bad
surreal kernel
ima not use a phone anymore
hoary zodiac
It's canonical
lone mango
ima not use a phone anymore
This is a growing trend actually
surreal kernel
Like I have a s22 ultra yk
lone mango
There is a growing trend of people using dumb phones
hoary zodiac
I have a pixel 6
nocturne flicker
Why need new phone
surreal kernel
or get the s25 or potentially s26
hoary zodiac
I don't spend stupid amounts of money on a phone because the price difference is as much as a DSLR and a mirrorless camera
lone mango
Why need new phone
My g7 thinq still works just fine and has no cracks
surreal kernel
Why need new phone
battery is buns on my 22
lone mango
nocturne flicker
battery is buns on my 22
You can fix that
surreal kernel
doesn't last
dense locust
I was thinking get the 16 pro max for like 1k
Wait for the 17 air
Worse battery life worse performance high price, what’s not to love 
surreal kernel
overheats alot too
hoary zodiac
I'd rather spend the price difference on a real camera than a crappy teeny tiny sensor
surreal kernel
You can fix that
is it worth it on the s22
doesn't it have like a power-hungry chip
and bad overheating issue s
dense locust
I don't spend stupid amounts of money on a phone because the price difference is...
But what if I want to play 4 ports of AAA games at 23 fps
nocturne flicker
Are you asking if it is worth replacing a battery over spending 1k 
surreal kernel
I cant even use multiwindow on Snapchat without it giving me a warning
nocturne flicker
Turn on power saving mode
hoary zodiac
But what if I want to play 4 ports of AAA games at 23 fps
That's a you use case
surreal kernel
its on all the time
nocturne flicker
It caps the cpu to 70%
surreal kernel
Are you asking if it is worth replacing a battery over spending 1k <:pepehmmm:90...
well
Ive been wanting an iPhone for a while now
and the 17
man that 17
hoary zodiac
I swear I say the "use case" more than anything here
hoary zodiac
surreal kernel
talking looks wise tho my s22 is mint
hoary zodiac
Eh not that much actually
lone mango
But if they under schedule you, yearly would be better
I doubt that would happen though
This a hardware product support engineer role
hoary zodiac
I'd rather get a xiaomi and put a custom rom on it
The hardware doesn't matter for me anymore
I benefit exactly 0% from hardware improvements
nocturne flicker
I wonder what the 2 message difference is
surreal kernel
I think I need apple
surreal kernel
I got a single product from them and now I want more
hoary zodiac
231 now
surreal kernel
is this magic
hoary zodiac
How
surreal kernel
ive been a android user my entire life
dense locust
5090 laptop
for that 32gb of vram
||What do you mean they are the same gpu?||
nocturne flicker
I can't stand obsession with a brand 
surreal kernel
the
nocturne flicker
Slap a case on it anyways so I never see it
surreal kernel
bp?
hoary zodiac
This is like the argument people in #building-and-recc-chat make to justify an NZXT case with zero airflow and corsair RGB fans
dense locust
My case is overkill
surreal kernel
bp changed my life man
hoary zodiac
Overkill how?
dense locust
I don’t even know if it’s good I just got it because it’s blue
hoary zodiac
bp? Like oil?
dense locust
nocturne flicker
At the end of the day they are all tech bricks that you really need to put in a durable case and put on a glass screen protector
surreal kernel
bp? Like oil?
no
dense locust
Overkill how?
$240
nocturne flicker
Bri'ish petroleum
surreal kernel
imagine using a PC case
surreal kernel
That's overpriced
my case be 50 bucks
hoary zodiac
I technically use >2 pcs on average
dense locust
That's overpriced
Hey at least I didn’t spend $200 more for the stupid touch screen I’ll never use
hoary zodiac
Hey at least I didn’t spend $200 more for the stupid touch screen I’ll never use
What
Did you buy a hyte
dense locust
Maybe
hoary zodiac
...
dense locust
dense locust
Yes
arctic lily
get musetex tw8 it solos all
dense locust
surreal kernel
ima sell my pc
hoary zodiac
that is a flashbang
dense locust
arctic lily
what happened to the fan being in the middle of the cpu cooler
dense locust
Are those usually only for stock coolers
hoary zodiac
This is not an objective statement
dense locust
My cpu didn’t come with a stock cooler
hoary zodiac
I don't like anime so I'm biased
hoary zodiac
Are those usually only for stock coolers
Think you mounted one of the fans on the rear instead of the middle
nocturne flicker
ima sell my pc
Why? Are you going to buy a Macbook
dense locust
Think you mounted one of the fans on the rear instead of the middle
I think that’s what the instructions said to do
I’ll check again
arctic lily
My cpu didn’t come with a stock cooler
i'm talking about this
dense locust
Maybe i read it wrong
hoary zodiac
I think it'd be a more optimal configuration if you move the rear fans to the middle
Because the rear case fan is already pulling air
surreal kernel
Why? Are you going to buy a Macbook <:derpyBlob:800415354891403275>
ima plan a trip for my girls birthday but a macbook sounds nice
arctic lily
yeah thats how its supposed to be
surreal kernel
honestly yeah I'd get a macbook
hoary zodiac
So the rear cpu cooler fan is better in the middle
dense locust
i'm talking about this
Imagine the outer fan was pushing air into the cpu
arctic lily
aint it on the picture of it when you buy it 
hoary zodiac
Macbooks are good
surreal kernel
why not get a macbook
arctic lily
banned
hoary zodiac
Macbooks don't have winslop
surreal kernel
they are tho
hoary zodiac
It's got the unix workflow and have decent software support
arctic lily
get the thermalright prism
dense locust
Not because it’s better but because of what is happening to my gpu cable
arctic lily
Not because it’s better but because of what is happening to my gpu cable
it is better tho
hoary zodiac
Wait
arctic lily
🗿
arctic lily
its not a 5090 maybe itll be fine
lone mango
Think you mounted one of the fans on the rear instead of the middle
One on the front is supposed to be in the middle and the one in the back is supposed to be in the front
nocturne flicker
its not a 5090 maybe itll be fine
Yeah it won't be as expensive when it goes up in flames
hoary zodiac
maybe it'll blow up
nocturne flicker
When it blows up
nocturne flicker
Rankism
royal crow
*maybe* it'll blow up
nah my money's on it blowing up
nocturne flicker
It never ends
nocturne flicker
dense locust
Time to get an aio with a screen
nocturne flicker
It is on the list though
hoary zodiac
It is on the list though
It does have uh
First season syndrome
Where nothing ever happens
nocturne flicker
I am aware
hoary zodiac
You do still have to pay attention in season 1
That's what makes it different from DS9
hoary zodiac
Holy flashbang
nocturne flicker
My list of stuff grows ever larger
dense locust
Holy flashbang
I mean it fits the theme
dense locust
Why stop half way
arctic lily
This aio looks nice
looks like itll cost the same as the cpu
nocturne flicker
I did watch Spectacular Spiderman so I scratched something off the list
hoary zodiac
Just uhh
surreal kernel
okay so im getting the 17 pro max
hoary zodiac
Put a bag of over the screen
dense locust
looks like itll cost the same as the cpu
It’s not sold here so I have idea what the price is
arctic lily
oh
nocturne flicker
I did watch Spectacular Spiderman so I scratched something off the list
It being short helps
hoary zodiac
Firefly?
nocturne flicker
Spectacular Spiderman
hoary zodiac
I mean have you watched Firefly
nocturne flicker
Oh, no it is also on the list
dense locust
Time to sell my gpu
nocturne flicker
The list grows ever ever long
hoary zodiac
Firefly is a short one
nocturne flicker
Down from the top where it began
dense locust
Jk this stupid gpu is $2000 in china
It probably will be more if it ever comes here
For a stupid 5080
hoary zodiac
They'll smuggle it in it's ok
dense locust
Im curious to see how my thermals would be if I turn on 105w mode
Didn’t they release a new update?
Recently
Another another update to “fix” their cpu killing
lone mango
Didn’t they release a new update?
For b850 yes but there are still failures
lone mango
Another another update to “fix” their cpu killing
Fix to fix the fix that was supposed to fix the fix (3.20 to 3.25 to 3.30 to 3.40)
nocturne flicker
They'll smuggle it in it's ok
Didn't you know that gpus are only ever possibly smuggled with no evidence into which types and where? - Bloomberg probably
random osprey
Time to sell my gpu
another miku gpu that i wont be able to buy 
dense locust
I mean this gpu looks so good
It’s way too overpriced tho
Importing it would probably be hell anyways
atomic current
another miku gpu that i wont be able to buy <:peepoSadSip:641081095479361536>
you can always download a gif of miku dancing
dense locust
nocturne flicker
Download Bananaman gifs
random osprey
already have miku mousepad, miku desktop background and a miku keycap and keyboard to match the mousepad. need miku themed pc 😔
hoary zodiac
Miku themed hydrogen bomb
lone mango
This position has been open for weeks and now there is another posting on another career site
I applied a long time ago who are they looking for
nocturne flicker
Nobody, they just want your resume
So they can offer you a lower paid position they actually need to fill in about 1.2 years
random osprey
I applied a long time ago who are they looking for
young person, 20-24 years of age, who can work hard and has 37 years of experience and a phd
dense locust
Miku themed hydrogen bomb
lone mango
So they can offer you a lower paid position they actually need to fill in about ...
Yeah it seems like they are gonna let them pile up
lone mango
young person, 20-24 years of age, who can work hard and has 37 years of experien...
What if I apply again but on this website
Actually it might take me to the same page the other one did
They are also secretive about the pay
nocturne flicker
Bob Market
lone mango
This roofing sales job might save me
hoary zodiac
Has any of these ever been in combat
lone mango
But it seems to be fast paced and high stakes, better for someone with actual sales experience
nocturne flicker
Has any of these ever been in combat
Nope
lone mango
lmao that sped up is so funny
hoary zodiac
At least the scrap iron fleet actually fought
New Zealand was actually so rich at one point
They bought a whole Battlecruiser for the British
They don't even own it they gifted it to Britain
nocturne flicker
They never put the anti-tank weapons on it, only Brens
nocturne flicker
Corrugated iron moving machine gun pillbox
hoary zodiac
The moment they bombed pearl harbour
That was over
If they were just soloing the Royal Navy yeah it's possible
The Royal Navy was overextended between two theatres
The US navy however...
nocturne flicker
The Bob Semple would've ended the war in 1943 smh
hoary zodiac
Instead of dropping fat man and little boy
nocturne flicker
If you dropped a Bob Semple
hoary zodiac
The bob semple would've obliterate everything from Tokyo to Okinawa
nocturne flicker
It was too good for the world
hoary zodiac
Soviets and Germans can yap about the Tiger and T34 all they want
T34 is overrated tbh
The tank itself is crap
It's just that they made a CRAP TON of them
worthy meteor
T34 is great in just how easy it is to make
worthy meteor
The tank itself is crap
It's just good enough, like the Shermans
hoary zodiac
That's the biggest strength of the soviet war effort really
The Germans couldn't afford to replenish their numbers in the late war
nocturne flicker
I mean, it was better than the German tanks at the start of their invasion. The Red Army was just a disaster at the start so they were never used in any way worthwhile and they never got upgraded until near the end of the war with the 34-85
worthy meteor
The Germans couldn't afford to replenish their numbers in the late war
couldn't replenish anything mid war lol
hoary zodiac
I mean, it was better than the German tanks at the start of their invasion. The ...
Think the T34s actually get worse when the war dragged on
But that's more due to necessity
They need those tanks YESTERDAY
worthy meteor
T34s were great pre and post war, but during the war, if it barely passes a quick visual glance, it's going towards the front
worthy meteor
the good ol story with the stalingrad tractor plant for example
you do not need optics if your enemy is within a block away
hoary zodiac
I wonder that'd work on the plains of Ukraine
Gets sniped by a tiger
At that point it's more like a naval engagement
Where they just lob shells
nocturne flicker
The Germans had a very tough time dealing with the slopped armor and Kleist and Guderian thought they were the best tanks yet. They had stories of the T34s just doing a wipe of the field before getting blown up by howitzers up close or retreating
worthy meteor
and then when they did real tests with t34s in the field, the armor plate itself survives, but the plate kinda breaks off and the whole structure loses effectiveness from a single hit because of the high hardness and bad welding
hoary zodiac
Yeah the wartime models were plagued with manufacturing issues
Rather than design issues
The Germans on the other hand
They over engineered their tanks
And then they just break down in the field
Czechoslovakia probably carried Germany a bit in the early war
With the czech tanks
nocturne flicker
and then when they did real tests with t34s in the field, the armor plate itself...
Nah, that wasn't in the field, that was from when the USSR gave two battle worn models to the US for testing
nocturne flicker
Nah, that wasn't in the field, that was from when the USSR gave two battle worn ...
Specifically two of the 1941 model
worthy meteor
Nah, that wasn't in the field, that was from when the USSR gave two battle worn ...
iirc it happened in one of the reports from german testing in the field too
The high hardness steel problem should've impacted all models produced during and before war
hoary zodiac
Depends on where those tanks were actually deployed
honest birch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj4cCUZCCSA
blud doing sidequests
nocturne flicker
The high hardness steel problem should've impacted all models produced during an...
Iirc the US captured one of the 85s during the Korean War that had high quality steel comparable to US steel, so they may have resolved that issue by late war, though they produced them until 46 so maybe it was a post war tank
worthy meteor
iirc it was changed post war, could've been late war though
random osprey
@rancid juniper idk if you plan on doing a benchmark of metal eden or not, but if you do, let me know if you can find a difference between lumen and raytracing in the game 
rancid juniper
<@255061019322351618> idk if you plan on doing a benchmark of metal eden or not,...
Never heard of that game but I might try the demo, afaik the difference between RT and lumen is one uses hardware and the other uses software.
Lumen isn't fully accurate as hardware RT but tries to simulate that ig? If anything it's just an unoptimized solution to baked lighting
random osprey
where i was standing, only difference i could make out was that lumen was just slightly brighter
roughly same performance where i was standing
lone mango
Lumen isn't fully accurate as hardware RT but tries to simulate that ig? If anyt...
Yeah and it is really slow
Even slower than rt
rancid juniper
Yea
lone mango
When you leave somewhere dark and go to somewhere bright, it looks like someone is moving a brightness slider
I love lumen so much
rancid juniper
roughly same performance where i was standing
If you're getting the same perf then hardware RT should be preferred
I'll check out the game soon (demo) and see the difference with my 7800xt
rancid juniper
I love lumen so much
Compliment or?
random osprey
oop, game didnt like that
i turned on raytracing and their option for high quality lighting. fatal error crash
lone mango
Compliment or?
No I just love shit lighting so much
rancid juniper
rancid juniper
i turned on raytracing and their option for high quality lighting. fatal error c...
Strange, using RT does increase vram so I wonder if that's the culprit. Or maybe that there aren't drivers available for it yet
cursive oasis
Gtx 970 jumpscare
misty sparrow
cursive oasis
upper rain
Gtx 970 jumpscare
random osprey
going insane trying to find the differences in lighting with these settings
rancid juniper
going insane trying to find the differences in lighting with these settings
maybe a good way to find the difference is testing both lumen and RT in fortnite
random osprey
fortnite has rt?
rancid juniper
fortnite has rt? <:widewegg2:903331266865295380>
a bit late on finding that out but yes
whats ur gpu btw?
random osprey
3080 10gb
rancid juniper
3080 10gb
old video but covers it https://youtu.be/uYYtOPcxiNU?si=6DXvUsfkVpxpIj5M
random osprey
forgor fortnite can actually look good. im on performance mode
proud jackal
nocturne flicker
icy ore
ol forknife
misty sparrow
19 dolar fortnit
upper rain
forgor fortnite can actually look good. im on performance mode
mod dlss 4 transformer in, the game is turbo blurry with half decent settings otherwise
sinful blade
https://tenor.com/view/tristam-welp-whatever-gif-21585718
Go eat your wings
tranquil pebble
buffalo wings go hard
sinful blade
i am not a wing consumer
Go eat your tendies
I just went and got Weis mac and cheese
hoary zodiac
Was there a windows 11 update that was killing ssds?
lone mango
Was there a windows 11 update that was killing ssds?
Not was
is
Well kinda
It will make the controller stop working
In jay's video he got the drive to reappear by doing a power cycle
hoary zodiac
In jay's video he got the drive to reappear by doing a power cycle
Is this a win 11 consumer exclusive issue
Or is LTSC affected
lone mango
Is this a win 11 consumer exclusive issue
I doubt it because ltsc doesnt get frequent updates like that
Remember that ltsc has that slower update release model
Yeah they dont get feature updates like that
hoary zodiac
Remember that ltsc has that slower update release model
Not just slower
Less bloated updates
hoary zodiac
LTSC doesn't include a lot of the useless packages tho
frigid stag
did u see the update breaking ssds
hoary zodiac
But that typically coincides with stability
I mean
lone mango
Right
lone mango
did u see the update breaking ssds
Yeah and you cannot uninstall it either
frigid stag
hoary zodiac
Debian only uses packages that's been proven to be stable
lone mango
You can uninstall the security portion but not the feature portion
lone mango
But the issue is from the feature portion of the update
lone mango
Yeah my friend has the update KB5063878 and he gets blue screens occasionally
frigid stag
lone mango
My brother has it too but his ssd has a controller that is not affected
unreal trail
frigid stag
microsoft said they cant even find the error
lone mango
Although he hasnt played any games recently so that could just be a coincidence
hoary zodiac
lone mango
microsoft said they cant even find the error
They said it is also not their fault, when it is
hoary zodiac
microsoft said they cant even find the error
Asrock moment????
unreal trail
frigid stag
They said it is also not their fault, when it is
the ai did
hoary zodiac
Microsoft probably can't find the hole either
frigid stag
their attempt at reproducing the error was probably getting an intern to ask chat gpt
hoary zodiac
They probably fired their actual programmers
lone mango
We love ai code
hoary zodiac
Because they were too expensive
frigid stag
probably downsized
hoary zodiac
And then replaced them with college grads that didn't listen in class
Hence cheaper to hire
lone mango
Because they were too expensive
They got rid of 9000 people around 4th of july and then filed for ~7000 H1-B
hoary zodiac
Execute all vibe coders!!!!!!!
lone mango
Some of those 9000 were game studios working on games for 7 years
hoary zodiac
To be fair that's bloat tbh
lone mango
Some big guy at xbox told these people to consult ai for coping
hoary zodiac
Microsoft is like Disney
Buying up everything
Without a clear goal
And then wonder why they're losing money
lone mango
And then said I am giving the best advice I can
I am so glad I dont need windows anymore
hoary zodiac
Corporate executives are the stupidest people on the planet I swear
hoary zodiac
I am so glad I dont need windows anymore
I use a RDP windows vm
Uses like no resources... On my client machine
It's snappy as hell running on my haswell mini pc so
lone mango
To be fair that's bloat tbh
If it was bloat then they would file for so many of them right after
hoary zodiac
It's running like it's a native app
lone mango
Its a cost cutting measure rather than cutting bloat
hoary zodiac
Or a webapp
frigid stag
the face when u find out the whole start menu is a web app
hoary zodiac
I mean a lot of it is actually bloat
frigid stag
no wonder it takes 1s to open
hoary zodiac
Microsoft went around buying everything
lone mango
those who actually know what "a.i" stands for:
hoary zodiac
So now they have a lot of redundancies
Shouldn't have gone around buying every single game studios in the first place
Wouldn't have a problem if they didn't create it
frigid stag
and they make first start up 4k oobe and it needs gpu drivers apparently of just basic microsoft display adapter
i probably didnt explain it well
hoary zodiac
oobez nuts
sinful blade
frigid stag
the logo that shows up on start up is basically a 4k video
hoary zodiac
the logo that shows up on start up is basically a 4k video <:kekw:74167835079108...
What
Why
Just have a vector graphic
frigid stag
microsoft moment
misty sparrow
If an AM5 motherboard was $90 would you get it?
frigid stag
some youtuber found out its hilarious
hoary zodiac
If an AM5 motherboard was $90 would you get it?
What vrms does it have
AM5 motherboard says nothing
misty sparrow
VRM?
frigid stag
its only on first startup though apparently
hoary zodiac
What is the board
misty sparrow
It's the one in #tech-deals-discussion but it's sold out
lone mango
I decreased my pbo offset and increased ram voltage
Now my memory training restore is shorter
misty sparrow
There's other mobos in that deal too but not sure how to tell if they are good or not
lone mango
hoary zodiac
I'd rather spend the extra $40 on a B650-S
Or the extra $60 on the Eagle AX
You can plop a full X3D in those
$90 isn't bad if you're only ever going to put a Ryzen 5 or 7 in it
But if you want to upgrade
No
misty sparrow
I cant get it anyway because itx
There is a Mini-ITX board in that deal btw
Just one
frigid stag
are asrock boards still melting cpus
lone mango
yes
lone mango
Just one
Oh I see
Damn this is good
https://computers.woot.com/offers/gigabyte-b650i-aorus-ultra-mini-itx-am5-mobo-7?ref=w_cnt_odet_bs_3
lone mango
zen 4 dies too but it is more rare
frigid stag
i mean it didn’t happen before
hoary zodiac
It's not... Bad for $90
lone mango
It is quite literally a game of chance
lone mango
I saw a post of a dead 7600x with a a620i lightning
lone mango
i mean it didn’t happen before
It did, it was just rare
hoary zodiac
2x4 is equivalent to 8 phase right?
lone mango
There are dead 7800x3ds but not a lot
lone mango
2x4 is equivalent to 8 phase right?
Kind of, not as stable and makes more heat but it is close
lone mango
Yeah 9700x
lone mango
9800x3d will push it though because that turbos to like 150w or so
hoary zodiac
I'd go for an 8 phase minimum tbh
Even that is... Theoretically fine
Assuming the thermals (airflow) aren't ass
frigid stag
could just get smaller ssd and spend the extra 40 just in case
lone mango
I think my b650i lightning wifi has 8 legit phases
lone mango
I have is-55 so that should be good
hoary zodiac
Hmm
unreal trail
lone mango
There is a small board that connect to the big board and it lets you have two as a result
Fan on top under those slits
lone mango
I don't think so
hoary zodiac
Aw
lone mango
There is another m.2 on the back
hoary zodiac
I mean
lone mango
Also it was like 240+ new
hoary zodiac
It can also run an X3D without blowing up
lone mango
Yeah
hoary zodiac
I wonder how that would go with the AIOs that have cpu block fans that redirect air to the vrms
lone mango
Also it was like 240+ new
I saw some for 200 on ebay but this was after my return window closed for the asrock
hoary zodiac
Because potentially you can have an optimal X3D setup in an ITX system
Or maybe a LP cooler actually
Because doesn't the air blow onto the motherboard as well?
And thus onto the vrms?
hoary zodiac
Honestly not bad
If it can run an X3D
I mean it's got two whole NVMe slots
That alone is worth it
lone mango
It has 3 m.2
lone mango
If it can run an X3D
8+2+1
hoary zodiac
Oh that's not bad at all
sinful blade
It’s a good board
sinful blade
Most aorus stuff is good
hoary zodiac
Especially for ITX + good airflow
lone mango
I'd be more comfortable with 12 phase but
well not really much space for it 
hoary zodiac
I mean it's fine
If you got air blowing onto the vrms
You're using a LP cooler right?
lone mango
Oh what is cool about this board is the fact that it has dp and hdmi
Most have just hdmi
hoary zodiac
So you would be blowing air directly onto the VRM heatsink I think
lone mango
You're using a LP cooler right?
Yeah its offset towards the ram but it will still be pushing some air there
hoary zodiac
Yeah that's good
lone mango
Better than towers pushing barely anything
lone mango
usb is a little lacking though but it is not the end of the world
hoary zodiac
Yeah but like
It's usb
You can probably just
Get a hub
Is that a single USB 4 header?
Idk if they make these for USB 4
misty sparrow
https://computers.woot.com/offers/gigabyte-b650i-aorus-ultra-mini-itx-am5-mobo-7...
Is it?
It’s good?
hoary zodiac
I mean it's all going to be competing for traffic with the other USB devices anyways so
hoary zodiac
Yeah but it's DDR5
lone mango
Thats good
lone mango
ddr6 is looking like it will just be one camm module
lone mango
server tek fr
misty sparrow
ddr6 is looking like it will just be one camm module
probably gonna have stupidly high pricing
lone mango
Damn it dude
misty sparrow
I mean we just phased out ddr4
lone mango
Do I actually get this board
misty sparrow
and they’re already thinking about ddr6
lone mango
Lowkey thinking about it
misty sparrow
Do I actually get this board
yeah it probably gonna sell out quickly
The $90 one did
misty sparrow
Yeah but you gotta pay a fee to ship it back I think
Woot handles things kinda differently
I’d buy it too but I don’t have any other components
Always thought about a small travel-sized PC though
lone mango
Wtf this board can do 7200 mhz ram
lone mango
Let's see with zen 6
upper rain
new iod lets gooooo
i wonder what the zen5 threadrippers are capable of
that would give an idea of what a next gen IOD would look like
the zen 5 TRs got an updated IMC... we did not
elfin mural
i've already seen some results
world record
and of course them things suck up ppwer
upper rain
7ghz cpu would be basedge while intel is seemingly still getting clock regressions lel
nova lake should fix, but still
elfin mural
1000w psu alone ain't enough to power it if you oc it
that's on 360mm aio, and it throttled at about 1300w
upper rain
that's on 360mm aio, and it throttled at about 1300w
zen6?
elfin mural
zen 5
upper rain
ah
elfin mural
9955WX
chowing down on power like there's no tomorrow
but man is it a workstation beast
lone mango
that's on 360mm aio, and it throttled at about 1300w
That is a pretty good aio
elfin mural
ya
elfin mural
i am
lone mango
That has 16 cores
elfin mural
i watched a stream once lmao
no
9955wx has 96 cores
tr
you're thinking about r9 9950x
lone mango
Ah it is 9995wx
Well that power draw makes sense
It is 16 9600Xs
Guys come on let me finance this
upper rain
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/workstations/ryzen-threadripper/9000-...
i saw this too and thought i was geeking
figured they meant the 64 core but i'm too tired to go find the right model name
upper rain
Guys come on let me finance this
i will donate $0.50
lone mango
64 is threadrupper 9980wx
96 is threadripper pro line
There is threadripper and threadripper pro
elfin mural
yup
lone mango
threadripper caps out at 64 and pro caps at 96
elfin mural
that explains the very demanding power consumption
lone mango
Damn I think I should get back into sql
Even though nosql is taking over
sql is still very necessary
This is me in 5 years
lone mango
that explains the very demanding power consumption
Sometimes the bigger the number gets the less meaning it has
Here is how I put it
That is 16 9600Xs overclocked
on one package
elfin mural
yeup
lone mango
why ru guys talking
@hoary zodiac bro i think i can sell my asrock for full price
i would be undercutting almost everyone
nvm newegg is the top listing
ok 190
Man I knew it
Now I gotta update again
lone mango
frigid stag
should make a meme about how they said you should clean the socket
lone mango
There is one where he says why would amd do this
which is the better one
Damn I should list my asrock and then order the gigabyte
But I need to see if it will bifurcate when the third nvme is added
velvet summit
LMFAO real
frigid stag
even better slippery drifts
lone mango
But I need to see if it will bifurcate when the third nvme is added
It will fully utilize the 24 usable lanes the cpu has
So I can have 3 drives no problem
elfin mural
why do some people just
go dumb when it rains and they're driving
lmao
or still go as fast as before it didn't rain
random osprey
chrome mirage
Rain is harder to drive in than snow but Iove driving in it. Can't drift in it because my pilot sport tires are hard to predict when they break traction.
elfin mural
i don't blame people hitting the brakes when the car begins to lose control in the wet
but they could've just prevented by simply reducing speed
chrome mirage
i don't blame people hitting the brakes when the car begins to lose control in t...
My sister freaked out when my dad's truck went sideways in the snow but I pressed the gas pedal and counter steered and everything was fine.
elfin mural
it's pretty common for people to panic and hit the brakes instead
instantly sealing their fate
chrome mirage
Worst thing you can do behind the wheel is panic
elfin mural
either braking or steering too much
lone mango
Man I really thought boards would be able to tell if you have a drive using two lanes instead of 4 but it doesnt matter
Because the m.2 slots are wired to use 4 and bifurcation is binary
It will kick in if a drive is installed in the slot regardless
Now I dont understand the point of the 990 evo plus at all
No wonder there are no x2 drives
chrome mirage
I'm finally getting fiber optic Internet but I don't know how installing fiber works and if they will install it in my bedroom
elfin mural
they run a fiber optic cable into your place
and connect it to a router or a modem that has a fiber optic input
then yeah, classic internet setup
dense locust
fiber optic? im too poor for that
actually my house prob isnt even connect to fiber optic
elfin mural
i have firsthand experience using fiber optic internet
in thailand it's everywhere and for cheap
but i moved to a kinda remote area so i don't get that anymore
im making do with 5g lmao
dense locust
cheap internet?
elfin mural
the data plan im paying for is capped at 30mbps anyway
elfin mural
but it's unlimited
dense locust
the data plan im paying for is capped at 30mbps anyway
hey if you dont have a data cap thats better than me
dense locust
us ips suck trash here
elfin mural
i have no nat issue myself
lone mango
Along with variable speeds
elfin mural
the variable speeds is noticeable tho if i forget to put my phone in a good signal spot lol
elfin mural
lone mango
You can get fr*nch 8gbps fiber for the same price of our discounted 1.2 gbps
Or the same price as no discount 500 down
Even romanians get better internet
elfin mural
tfw 1gbps here is $30/month
most ppl can't afford that in thailand tho
or doesn't care about the 1 gigabit speed
base package starts with 500 up/down anyway, and they're like almost half the price
lone mango
500 down is still good though
lone mango
500 up is wicked fast
Our plans are ~41 up no matter what
So rn we have 1.2g and 41 up
lone mango
You can get fr*nch 8gbps fiber for the same price of our discounted 1.2 gbps
Oh and also upload too
8 gig down and up
nocturne flicker
fiber optic? im too poor for that
Depending on where you are it can be the same price or even cheaper than normal internet
nocturne flicker
A local fiber company offers 600mbps internet at $26 cheaper than Xfinity charges for a 500mbps package. Not including a year discount that makes it $40 less
chrome mirage
fiber optic? im too poor for that
I got a good deal and it is like half the price I was paying before for slower internet.
lone mango
Fiber moment
lone mango
A local fiber company offers 600mbps internet at $26 cheaper than Xfinity charge...
Yeah lmao
chrome mirage
I pay for gigabit Internet and this is what I'm getting in the same room as my current ISP router.
Maybe they are throttling me because I cancelled it
lone mango
dense locust
about the same
nocturne flicker
Why is the vram usage so different
lone mango
Why is the vram usage so different
I am not sure but for some reason intel was using more memory
dense locust
nocturne flicker
Hmm
dense locust
odd
lone mango
about the same
Yeah not a big difference
dense locust
intel is using both more vram and ram
but why
and the gpu is using more power
but that prob is just variance
elfin mural
run-to-run variance
atomic current
nocturne flicker
Garbage tier printer, ejects previous pages instead of laying the new one on top
Canon more like Cannon
lone mango
I have like a 5 year old epson that still works very well
I had to run the self cleaning multiple times in a row but that is our fault
Didnt use it enough
elfin mural
i hate how home appliances require internet connection now
lone mango
i WILL use dumb tech and i WILL like it
elfin mural
wdym i HAVE to connect to the cloud to wash my dishes?
why do i HAVE to use an app to turn on my lights?
why do i HAVE to use an app for my printer?
😭
elfin mural
im ok with apps if it's a local solution
that won't scam you after the company goes kaput
dense locust
error please wait for software update before driving your car
elfin mural
or decides your lights are too old
lone mango
I dont like it because the company can stop you from turning down the temp like how they did in colorado
nocturne flicker
Need app to control rgb light bulb
elfin mural
ye
atomic current
or decides your lights are too old
bulbs are such shit quality :/
elfin mural
subscribe to unlock your car's full power rating
atomic current
flickers and goes dim after a small service life
elfin mural
or pay for the option (it's an ev that declared the full power to the regulation bodies yet they charge to get the power the car manufacturer claimed)
subscribe to use adaptive cruise control
nocturne flicker
I dont like it because the company can stop you from turning down the temp like ...
That happened because the people using the utility signed an agreement to allow the utility to override and manually control smart thermostats in certain situations in return for a discount on their energy bill
lone mango
That happened because the people using the utility signed an agreement to allow ...
Ah the dystopian give us control and you get some kind of payment
The klaus schwab agreement
nocturne flicker
Yes we want the private utility company to control our thermostats during times of extreme heat, nothing bad will ever happen
sinful blade
Damn, that’s cool
Anyways
nocturne flicker
Yes we want the private utility company to control our thermostats during times ...
They give us a $50 rebate so it must be great
Our energy utility doesn't do stuff like that. Or anything to help reduce bills besides a cost averaging plan you have a very small window to sign up for
Also the price of energy went up 8% since last year
lone mango
Thank you datacenters
nocturne flicker
They buy the energy at discount rates from the TVA and resell it to us at higher prices and say they are good because cooperative
lone mango
My stocks are gonna tank when the ai bubble pops
Maybe it wont pop, maybe just lose some pressure
atomic current
sell now and then buy stock in stuff that actually creates a functional economy next time 
atomic current
stay in the trash can
nocturne flicker
Meanwhile there is literally no way to become a member of the cooperative, no list of members of the cooperative, offer no benefits for being associated with the cooperative and charge high rates for the area
dense locust
is it a good board?
lone mango
for some reason i want to buy it but dont want to buy it
nocturne flicker
Mmm. Woot has M310s on sale for the proper $20 price. Much good, very wow. Now slap $7 shipping on it and get rid of most of the discount
lone mango
@upper rain look how high it will boost under light loads holy shit
oh no vram hopping between 90 and 92c
worn wave
Thank you datacenters
Datacenters don't use much at all compared to AC
nocturne flicker
oh no vram hopping between 90 and 92c
Does Youtube still do its crappy rewinds?
lone mango
i dont think so
elfin mural
my mouse mat is starting to get mold
i need to replace it
(washing it is far too late now)
lone mango
wtf i didnt even know that could happen
elfin mural
humid environment
hoary zodiac
humid environment
SEA moment
elfin mural
yep