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#general-chat
opaque sedge
opaque sedge
which one?
…
opaque sedge
$800? There goes my stage 1 tune
No 650
With discounts and tax
Oh wait sales over
It should come back soon
craggy shoal
Missed that lol
opaque sedge
Missed that lol
Christmas is around the corner
And 4th gen panels are coming soon too
(If u work with text btw oled has this weird fringing which is annoying)
This how it looks
opaque sedge
This how it looks
@craggy shoal if u got good finances pretty sure amex does major cashback on dell.com purchases like a 100 bucks or smth
craggy shoal
Bruh we just got AM5
craggy shoal
<@263791870281383937> if u got good finances pretty sure amex does major cashbac...
Not in that tax bracket yet lol
craggy shoal
Always have to have it
opaque sedge
What kind of ss software are you using? 💀
Nvidia capture
Also i got hdr on maybe its cuz of that?
lone mango
Bruh we just got AM5
3 years ago
royal crow
The swift is better
The swift looks real cheap tho
lone mango
naw
nocturne flicker
The swift is better
Cloud is a Swiftie confirmed
craggy shoal
I use Cloudflare
opaque sedge
i hate that guy
dusk knot
What I hate about recording HDR is how desaturates everything
dense locust
https://videocardz.com/newz/amds-next-gen-am6-socket-to-feature-over-2100-pins-m...
do you think people will try to put am5 cpus in it? 
rigid sinew
good morning everyone
random osprey
worn wave
Morning 🤨
rigid sinew
technically still am
worn wave
True
lone mango
fr
lone mango
do you think people will try to put am5 cpus in it? <:meguuuclueless:13679841163...
yes
sinful blade
Here’s a Strange Thing I found
random osprey
Here’s a Strange Thing I found
thats pretty fantastic
rancid juniper
do you think people will try to put am5 cpus in it? <:meguuuclueless:13679841163...
Absolutely
dense locust
cant wait for the reddit posts
dense locust
wil we get x4 lane gpus 
lone mango
pcie 8 card with 8 gigs because the amount of bandwicth to the cpu will not impact performance as much
And about that
9060 is gonna be x16
dense locust
lone mango
So its gonna be better than the 5060 in vram limited scenarios
dense locust
makes it more usable on older systems
lone mango
makes it more usable on older systems
Yeah and for newer systems you wont tank as hard with 8 gigs. i really do think they will use pcie generations as a way to keep vram low
Brutal
dense locust
pcie gen 8 prob wont be used for a while on consumer system
we dont even have 6 yet
lone mango
Yeah I know
dense locust
companies will love it for their ai farms
lone mango
Just saying as the bandwidth doubles with 6, they will use that to keep being stingy with vram
And a hypothetical where it still happens even further into the future
lone mango
companies will love it for their ai farms
sotru
unreal trail
dusk knot
Here’s a Strange Thing I found
LOL WHAT
lone mango
arctic lily
hows this speed
pliant berry
Is good
rancid juniper
hows this speed
the type of speed i envy, very good
dusk knot
Sped
rancid juniper
these consoles catching up like crazy, and i know its gonna be mad expensive
rancid juniper
your heart making fresh beats
frigid stag
XOC
narrow haven
Anyone have experience with ABS eurus ruby?
idle nexus
I got it working btw
USB & all
well not quite
can't get drivers working for HD7970 quite yet
I think it's because there are a bunch of PCIe devices for the motherboard without drivers rn
frosty sinew
your heart making fresh beats
Fr
paper verge
bro is having a heard attack
dusk knot
hmmm.
rancid juniper
all pcs obsolete
idle nexus
lol dammit why are there no Z790 Chipset drivers for Windows XP?
royal crow
these consoles catching up like crazy, and i know its gonna be mad expensive
Impossible
Console is supposed to be absolute unmitigated bullcrap
rancid juniper
slowly its not
rancid juniper
imagine if they stopped subscriptions for online services
PC is truly cooked if so
😭
dusk knot
looks like we need a 5090 now
hoary zodiac
PC is supposed to be MILES ahead!!!!
The prices is miles ahead too 🔥🔥🔥🔥
narrow haven
Anybody watch the pc games show?... tells ya what ya need to know.
idle nexus
PC is supposed to be MILES ahead!!!!
probably will be by the time those launch
nocturne flicker
The prices is miles ahead too 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Don't worry every game is just $80 and the internet has a console tax on top of your internet bill
rancid juniper
Anybody watch the pc games show?... tells ya what ya need to know.
not really
narrow haven
probably will be by the time those launch
Will only cost 7k for a competitive option pc wise.
dusk knot
probably will be by the time those launch
true...arent they projected for 2027?
idle nexus
$7k? lol what the heck are you putting in there?
rancid juniper
i mwan even if PC was still ahead an RTX 5080 type console is no slouch
hoary zodiac
$7k? lol what the heck are you putting in there?
50 noctua fans
rancid juniper
$7k? lol what the heck are you putting in there?
6090
dusk knot
6090 will save us....
hoary zodiac
$7k to perform 7% better
nocturne flicker
6090 will cost 6090
idle nexus
realistically, 6090 will probably be what? $2500-$3k MSRP?
that's not even halfway to $7k tho
narrow haven
realistically, 6090 will probably be what? $2500-$3k MSRP?
"Msrp" so like 5-6k
idle nexus
lol for the first 6 months probably
royal crow
realistically, 6090 will probably be what? $2500-$3k MSRP?
My bet is 3-3.5k
hoary zodiac
The 5090 msrp was overpriced in the first place
rancid juniper
that's not even halfway to $7k tho
MSRP now is a joke, its time to look at the market prices
hoary zodiac
It's not worth anything more than $1699
nocturne flicker
MSRP acts as a third party price inflator
royal crow
The 5090 msrp was overpriced in the first place
They needa sell ts at a loss
hoary zodiac
What
idle nexus
cheapest 5090 on newegg is Zotac SOLID OC for $2400
hoary zodiac
English?
narrow haven
MSRP is a myth.
royal crow
It costs like 2$ to make a 5090 right?
idle nexus
lol I love how it's $2400 & those @$#%@ still charge $13 to ship it
royal crow
I mean purely for manufacturing
rancid juniper
you got money right? now buy shipping
-newegg probably
idle nexus
oddly it's the only 5090 shipped by newegg with that you have to pay for shipping...
royal crow
Bru
idle nexus
lol I can't even complain about prices on 5090. I lost all my credibility when I bought my 4090
fresh timber
you guys may be wondering why im not active anymmore
im on a new account 👅 thats all
idle nexus
I was just thinking
nocturne flicker
I'm not wondering
idle nexus
"gosh why isn't VextroAi active anymore?"
hoary zodiac
Who
fresh timber
im hungry,. what do i eat
tranquil pebble
probably not long until $900 video card is low end
idle nexus
so I was trying to get WinXP Integral working right & didn't touch it for like 10 minutes or so
idle nexus
and my screen saver came on
idle nexus
these heckers make the default screen saver scrolling text
hoary zodiac
Who is vim enthusiast where is Boeing
Boeing got boeing'd
idle nexus
that says, "Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down" going all the way thru the refrain
fresh timber
i fixed my laptop a little
idle nexus
so basically, I got rickrolled by Windows XP Integral edition
worthy meteor
Boeing got boeing'd
which kind, the whistleblower kind or the plane kind
nocturne flicker
He knew too much
Guess he tripped out of the open airlock while in flight on a private trip that only had three people total on it 
fresh timber
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1132462579109867663/1402405776458387596/IMG_0867.mov?ex=6893cba8&is=68927a28&hm=ca976caaf187a145b3b31ee37ce141c8f567780d7cc5858d7dd0f7b4ea781779& https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1132462579109867663/1402405777032871936/IMG_0868.jpg?ex=6893cba8&is=68927a28&hm=d8997e2d2f1907df16a3d5200e699dd39e1431cc9643315488a0d5c6d36cdea5&=&width=674&height=898
hoary zodiac
Both
fresh timber
is htis noraml
hoary zodiac
It's easy to assassinate a Boeing engineer because you know what to sabotage in the plane
fresh timber
is this approprate for egg
nocturne flicker
I don't know, this is Newegg. You'll have to ask the Egg server, not us 
nocturne flicker
Grandegg
idle nexus
lol I wonder how that guy is doing these days
nocturne flicker
Let's go back to 2015 and complain about how Intel is fumbling and stagnant
hoary zodiac
Probably still shilling nzxt
hoary zodiac
Let's go back to 2015 and complain about how Intel is fumbling and stagnant
We can meme on amd for being useless too
lone mango
Boeing got boeing'd
nocturne flicker
If I am remembering the correct person then yes iirc
idle nexus
he's the dude who got a 3080ti then got a 4090 or something
nocturne flicker
Okay no I'm thinking of someone else then
I've been here on and off for 5 years, that guy who was a NZXT shill but was banned from NZXT is vague for me
idle nexus
U need legacy driver for it
I got one from AMD's website but installing it doesn't do anything
I mean... it should work... 980ti can work supposedly & that came out like 2 years later or something
proud jackal
ati drivers 
idle nexus
lol aren't they notoriously bad or something?
icy ore
tranquil pebble
idle nexus
wait a second... reading 3dguru & what not, there may not be an HD7970 driver for XP
rancid juniper
nocturne flicker
tranquil pebble
wait a second... reading 3dguru & what not, there may not be an HD7970 driver fo...
pretty sure XP drivers ended at HD 4000 series
nocturne flicker
Almost as if they said they are on the verge of cancelling everything
You don't say that everything is getting nixed next year if nobody contracts out your production if everything was going fine
rancid juniper
You don't say that everything is getting nixed next year if nobody contracts out...
This is honestly embarrassing for that company, this is what happens when you stay entitled and stagnate for too long
nocturne flicker
This is what happens when a company takes on a big money sink and doesn't even work out how they'll make money on it before they start spending money
idle nexus
this ostensibly works https://archive.org/details/sapphire-amd-radeon-drivers-12135
upper rain
Intel 18A problems
i thought 18a was okay technologically, they can't find customers? iirc this was the same issue they had with Intel 4, so they just pushed on and said "well we'll make 18A really good so people will buy that instead"
idle nexus
pretty sure XP drivers ended at HD 4000 series
it actually showed a driver in the catalyst install thing but let's see
nocturne flicker
Government doing subsidies if we sink a ton of money on our unprofitable fabs?!?!?! Guess we gotta sink the entire company building them now
idle nexus
wth is this even supposed to mean? early computer crap was weird man
rancid juniper
i thought 18a was okay technologically, they can't find customers? iirc this was...
Apparently some sources claimed that yields aren't great still
nocturne flicker
wth is this even supposed to mean? early computer crap was weird man
AMD secretly getting into nuclear fusion
upper rain
Apparently some sources claimed that yields aren't great still
wild
idle nexus
lol ya in 2012 ig
oh heck
my screen resolution changed after restart
we might be getting somewhere
upper rain
wth is this even supposed to mean? early computer crap was weird man
fusing cores together for fx?
nocturne flicker
The future is fusion fission bros
rancid juniper
Nuclear CPU
idle nexus
lol highest resolution is 2048x1536.
nocturne flicker
Nuclear CPU
Nonono, nuclear PC
wary fjord
Fake PNG smh
idle nexus
I'll settle for 1920x1080 ig
rancid juniper
Nonono, nuclear PC
Included free rads to the user
nocturne flicker
Like the cars in Fallout
idle nexus
waaaait
nocturne flicker
The ones that let off a nuclear explosion if you shoot them
wary fjord
I'll settle for 1920x1080 ig
Goated Res
idle nexus
wow that is high res XP
dense locust
Tell me what’s new
idle nexus
1440 works lol
rancid juniper
Tell me what’s new
Intel xess 2.1 frame generation supported on all gpus ig
nocturne flicker
Tell me what’s new
The new Intel Fab that we built in the desert only to cancel production after it was equipped and staffed
dense locust
nocturne flicker
Now we just need to find out how to write off a multibillion dollar failure in our taxes
dense locust
create manufacturing that requires water
put it in a desert
nvm cancel it
They are fine
idle nexus
dense locust
For now
nocturne flicker
>create manufacturing that requires water
>put it in a desert
>nvm cancel it
C'mon bro we are going to save so much money on hauling sand if we build it in the place that will be inhospitable in a couple years
idle nexus
I wonder why it thinks there are two monitors tho... odd
nocturne flicker
*For now*
Yeah if they cancel the projects now and stop spending they'll prevent themselves from having negative profit within the next 5
upper rain
ngl i kind if stan arc now, but i still don't want them to make a big push
i think losing tons of money on neat GPUs is probably bad for their GPUs going forward, let alone the businesses they have that actually make money and could use that funding
rancid juniper
I hope they don’t cancel gpus
Yea if Intel ever fails I hope that the GPU side manages to stay alive
And become its own thing
nocturne flicker
Surely their CPU segment won't bomb next gen 😐
Maybe Intel could buy their own silicon and find an excuse not to close their own fabs
"We did it guys we found a customer the fabs continue"
It'd be like the Obama giving himself a medal meme but intel
idle nexus
i think losing tons of money on neat GPUs is probably bad for their GPUs going f...
ya but they kinda have a pretty major incentive in AI to keep GPUs going
upper rain
ya but they kinda have a pretty major incentive in AI to keep GPUs going
not consumer GPUs really
idle nexus
if they're making GPUs, won't they have some mediocre yields they can sell us? lol
nocturne flicker
I imagine the data center GPUs are too far gone for them to get into at this point. Unless they pull some Intelium grade magical product out of thin air
upper rain
Maybe Intel could buy their own silicon and find an excuse not to close their ow...
they used to use their fabs to produce their products. but after 10nm/Intel 7 went bad they switched to TSMC
upper rain
if they're making GPUs, won't they have some mediocre yields they can sell us? l...
the architectures for enterprise and gaming are very different. take a loob at BG200 vs BG202 for an example on the Nvidia side of things
Nvidia gets away with selling rehashes of their enterprise architectures that are more optimized for non-enterprise tasks, but they have a captive market for that, which Intel does not
wary fjord
Sleep
upper rain
gn
nocturne flicker
gn
royal crow
gn
wary fjord
Its 6am
wary fjord
wary fjord
Fair
wary fjord
Somewhere on earth
nocturne flicker
Some people don't
opaque sedge
Yea if Intel ever fails I hope that the GPU side manages to stay alive
Intel’s still strong for mobile chips no?
rancid juniper
Intel’s still strong for mobile chips no?
Mobile yea
idle nexus
oh I heard a rumor
wary fjord
Hx something
opaque sedge
Intel’s still strong for mobile chips no?
Seems like the intel mobile chip used in msi’s premium handheld pc is on par with amds z2extreme
Intel just hasn’t seemed to heavily market those like amd have
nocturne flicker
Wasn't the MSI handheld a dumpster fire?
idle nexus
Dual CCD X3D https://wccftech.com/amd-readies-new-3d-v-cache-ryzen-9000-zen-5-desktop-cpus-8-core-96-mb-16-core-192-mb-dual-x3d/
nocturne flicker
Because the CPU had problems?
opaque sedge
Wasn't the MSI handheld a dumpster fire?
The first one yeah they came up with another one months ago but haven’t been able to deliver on availability
wary fjord
X3d on laptop must be nice
opaque sedge
Imagine they stuff in so much l3 cache that the next break through is gonna be stuffing a shitton of l2 cache
idle nexus
Nvidia gets away with selling rehashes of their enterprise architectures that ar...
I'm sure they can find something to do with them. Maybe just release 50 different versions like AMD & AM4 CPUs or something
opaque sedge
Imagine they stuff in so much l3 cache that the next break through is gonna be s...
(I am uneducated in the matter of whether or not that will provide a worthwhile performance increase or not)
wary fjord
Do you guys think another am4 cpu will drop again?
idle nexus
lol how much vcache do we need before we just don't use RAM anymore?
isn't 5500X3D happening? or happened I dunno
upper rain
I'm sure they can find something to do with them. Maybe just release 50 differen...
50 different versions of a massive 1000+mm^2 APU that basically lacks shaders in favour of low precision accelerators
wary fjord
lol how much vcache do we need before we just don't use RAM anymore?
Imagine dedicated slot on your mobo next to your cpu. Vcache slot
Just size of a sd card
XD
upper rain
not tryng to be a hater i just think they're doing the right thing for the wrong circumstances
wary fjord
Its close enough to the cpu maybe the slot can go at the back of the board where cpu at
Ooo
No more latency
idle nexus
50 different versions of a massive 1000+mm^2 APU that basically lacks shaders in...
I just hope arc will survive so I'm reaching ig lol
upper rain
i'd rather they cut GPUs if it helps keep their core businesses afloat than continue losing money u til they spiral into IBM 2
upper rain
I just hope arc will survive so I'm reaching ig lol
i hope so too
idle nexus
Its close enough to the cpu maybe the slot can go at the back of the board where...
I think that would just be RAM again cuz it's relatively far away from CPU
wary fjord
Rtx Rx Arc 6000 GT XT Ti Super
idle nexus
until copper traces turn into fiber optic or something
wary fjord
I think that would just be RAM again cuz it's relatively far away from CPU
But at the back of the board tho.. where cpu socket is at .
nocturne flicker
isn't 5500X3D happening? or happened I dunno
It came out in June
idle nexus
lol just put it on the back of the socket or something
cut out a hole in the motherboard
might even cool better who knows
nocturne flicker
It came out in June
It is a Latin America exclusive so that is why nobody knows about it currently
wary fjord
Hmm
nocturne flicker
I think that would just be RAM again cuz it's relatively far away from CPU
It'd technically be L4 cache
Cache also used to be on the mobo too. Way way back L2 cache was on the board rather than the cpu
royal crow
Gpu Thursday :D
nocturne flicker
Thermal Compound Thursday
idle nexus
It is a Latin America exclusive so that is why nobody knows about it currently
I think it is ya
royal crow
I meant im getting my gpu
nocturne flicker
Are you?
royal crow
Most hopefully
nocturne flicker
Could be getting bricks in a gpu box
royal crow
Bruh
Well I'll just open it at the store for convenience
If it is bricks, im sure they'll let me find a real one
nocturne flicker
If it is factory sealed you'll probably be fine, I'm just taking a dig yeah?
tranquil pebble
Imagine dedicated slot on your mobo next to your cpu. Vcache slot
This existed. It was called COAST... Cache On A STick, and was in the 90s. It was much slower than on die cache
rancid juniper
alot of people really having issues running battlefield 6 because of secureboot/tpm 2.0
seeing angry posts and a bit of laziness
😔
dense locust
I don’t think that’s even an hdmi adaptor anymore
Mostly because it doesn’t have hdmi
Also because it’ll probably lag at any resolution
rancid juniper
igpus are better than that
nocturne flicker
I don’t think that’s even an hdmi adaptor anymore
Mostly because it doesn’t hav...
Convert the dvi to hdmi via a cable
tranquil pebble
wonder what kind of hardware you would need for Cyberpunk pathtracing ultra in 8k at 240 fps
wary fjord
wonder what kind of hardware you would need for Cyberpunk pathtracing ultra in 8...
It will be childs play xD
Near future
dense locust
Is the near future 20 years?
nocturne flicker
In 20 years the mid range priced entry level will still be 1080p cards
wary fjord
https://youtube.com/shorts/Xq-pNRIjrAw?si=k2gEoNONQYWvF8zO
I can use this to clean dust on my pc right?
Seems easy than me brushing manually
icy ore
Need fr
tranquil pebble
look what showed up in a Humble Bundle
icy ore
5
tranquil pebble
The main one was released once on PS3/4 then got a new version called Royal. Royal then got a remaster itself... and then the spin offs lol
P5R is the main one worth playing
frosty sinew
frigid stag
I sure hope no one is desperate enough to steal a 9060 xt
Only broke people 
royal crow
Welll good thing im not :copium:
craggy shoal
What backpack is this? (I need it)
frosty sinew
What backpack is this? (I need it)
Uhh
Idk if u wanna know
It was a lot
Like think of a reasonable number and double it
craggy shoal
I'm fine with it being $200
frosty sinew
Its the ltt wan backpack
royal crow
Ltt backpack? (Lttstore.com)
frosty sinew
Yes
craggy shoal
oh LTT idc then
royal crow
Its the ltt wan backpack
Called it
craggy shoal
Then I guess I need their supplier (would be a lot cooler imo)
frosty sinew
See the problem with this logic
Is a lot of the time
Its hard to find the supplier, not to mention buy ONE item
And even past that most of them have contracts binding them to only sell through ltt
craggy shoal
Chinese websites exist. It only takes a name to find them lol
Buying them is easy. Finding the name of company who makes them is difficult
frosty sinew
I rlly doubt they would sell you one
frosty sinew
I've only had it for 6 hrs cant review it yet
Once it gets filled with laptop and textbooks then we'll see
My og roots backpack lasted me uhhhh 8 years
north crescent
I rlly doubt they would sell you one
One off test samples exist, but they typically cost like 2x+ more than individual items in a bulk purchase
frosty sinew
One off test samples exist, but they typically cost like 2x+ more than individua...
So, impractical
craggy shoal
yikes
dusk knot
wth....why dos using my keyboard and mouse feel soo strange after being away from a PC for 2 months
💀
craggy shoal
A better question: How did you put Discord on dos?
bro built a Discord client for dos 😭
nocturne flicker
DiscOS
ripe harness
Discord isn’t really that different from IRC’s
wary fjord
wth....why dos using my keyboard and mouse feel soo strange after being away fro...
Because you're not locked in yet
dusk knot
Because you're not locked in yet
Correct.back to the gaming grind
dense locust
Do they even have a real sample
yeah sure just send them some money and theyll give it to youy in a few ||decades||
wary fjord
I only see renders of it
hype them up so nvidia got scare
then lower the card price
hehe
true the sample includes $10k on a envolop and a picture of chuck norris + NDA
dense locust
thats prob the third "we beat nvidia" headline i read this year
hoary zodiac
Do they even have a real sample
-Theranos
lone mango
hoary zodiac
I swear these silicon company startups only hire 3D artists
dense locust
which gpu is it
lone mango
Some cards can do 200w
Although when I went to windows I could do 200 as well
So idk if those could do 200 from the vbios or if adrenalin just lets them do it from the driver
random osprey
<@408037951604391937> i think ima get this skin
what skin is that? drawing a blank, i assume citrine
lone mango
what skin is that? drawing a blank, i assume citrine
yea citrine deluxe
velvet summit
thats prob the third "we beat nvidia" headline i read this year
It's from the same company every time I've seen the headline
Also it's 99% fake
And it's not because of their ridiculous claims
But their company site is blatantly AI generated
Or at least was a year ago when we looked at it
atomic current
where's the fricken 1% real
velvet summit
The 1% is that they somehow actually did it but was just too lazy to actually make a proper site
cedar compass
no one have smaller chip node than tsmc and samsung so without smaller node no one can change current market
unles they use something different than silicon
all headlines with "we beat big semiconducter companies" are obviusly fake
atomic current
they have Bsmc
cedar compass
Bean Semiconductor Manufacturing Company
cedar compass
idle nexus
bro wth. My RAM overclock keeps failing FFTv4/VT3 but it takes like 26 hours to happen
tranquil pebble
bro wth. My RAM overclock keeps failing FFTv4/VT3 but it takes like 26 hours to ...
this sort of thing is why I don't OC RAM
craggy shoal
I get the appeal to OC'ing, but yeah imma just stick to buying RAM that can handle the speed I need lol
frigid stag
I get the appeal to OC'ing, but yeah imma just stick to buying RAM that can hand...
Some overclockers do that they just mess with timings
craggy shoal
Yeah I'm aware of that
elfin mural
and that falls within the similar category
so yeah still needs work and effort put into gettin the most outta somethin
craggy shoal
They almost should be called "RAM latency decreasers" rather than "RAM OC'ers"
frigid stag
True
elfin mural
or ram optimizers
craggy shoal
Polling rate*
frigid stag
You were more awake than me I guess
craggy shoal
lmao
elfin mural
i have a feeling most ppl who messes with their computer hardware are autistic to a degree
not to be rude ofc
craggy shoal
Nah you're probably right 💀
frigid stag
There’s probably some link
elfin mural
im guilty of some of this myself
frigid stag
Nah you're probably right 💀
True 💀
craggy shoal
"toonig"
Man I hate printing with black filament and trying to view the print with a camera
Can't see anything
I need an AMS riser to I can put a light in my printer
frigid stag
What are you 3D printing
craggy shoal
What are you 3D printing
Eventually it'll look like this
Already have most of the stack
Actually I need to put it back where it belongs. Kinda not the best space lol
craggy shoal
Pointless video then lol
craggy shoal
Nice how long does it take
All threee of these plates takes 12.75 hours (given the filaments and printer I'm using, and of course the settings that I've set)
frigid stag
Damn not bad, are they sturdy
wary fjord
bro wth. My RAM overclock keeps failing FFTv4/VT3 but it takes like 26 hours to ...
Deym
Get new ram again should fix it
idle nexus
it's fiiiine
I think
the thing is, the room I was testing it in has its own AC
& it's off overnight
so it's probably like 85F+ by the time it borks out
heck I dunno
ig I'll keep playing with timings
craggy shoal
Damn not bad, are they sturdy
frigid stag
Nice
How much even is a 3D printer. I remember a few years ago they cost a few grand 💀
craggy shoal
There's a couple options. You want to learn how 3D printers work? I'd say start on an Ender 3 (like roughly $200, depending on the specific one you go with). If you want something that just works, get a Bambu Lab A1 ($349 rn). I wouldn't bother with the A1 mini. People are like "it's not THAT small." It's pretty small lol
My printer (Bambu Lab P1S) is $549 rn
And now I feel ripped off because I paid $700 for this thing almost a year ago (maybe it has been a year. I forgot lol)
You can get it with the AMS for $749, or with the AMS 2 Pro for $869
Personally I'd start on any of those printers. If you go the Ender 3 route, you might as well upgrade to a P1S or even a Bambu Lab H2D when you're finally fed up with trying to get reliable prints with the Ender 3 lol
frigid stag
I’d probably start with the 200$ one, too broke to spend $ 800 on one rn
Is it that bad
craggy shoal
Keep in mind that you'll also be spending some money on upgrades. I got my Ender 3 for Christmas and ended up putting $100 worth of upgrades on it just to get reliable prints
frigid stag
What’d you upgrade on it
craggy shoal
Also a Raspberry Pi running OctoPrint and a spare webcam I had at the time just to get some extra controls and make it a remotely accessible printer
frigid stag
Damn that sounds like a lot of parts
craggy shoal
What’d you upgrade on it
- New motherboard (makes the motors quieter, might've been like $40?)
- Some stuff to keep the print bed level (stock is very loose and sometimes completely makes the bed unleveled)
- Extruder upgrade (OEM is plastic and can fail. Also came with the bed leveling stuff, overall a $40 kit when I bought it)
- Raspberry Pi cost for remote printing can vary, use any spare system you can tbh, not taking up too much energy for just remote printer access lol
- Power supply extension cable (maybe like $10? Needed it because the bed would usually run into the stock PSU cable. It just needed some slack)
- PEI plate (Honestly, make this your first upgrade. Should be like $20 iirc)
I had a spare Raspberry Pi and webcam
frigid stag
I didn’t even know u could upgrade the parts inside lol
How much did it all cost like 1k?
worn wave
I didn’t even know u could upgrade the parts inside lol
Nice thing with the Ender printers is that they're quite user serviceable/upgradeable
...But often take some tweaking to get working well
craggy shoal
Nah, printer was like maybe $200, but I got it for Christmas. The motherboard inside the printer kinda sucks. You can upgrade to a better one that has a specific chip that makes the stepper motors MUCH quieter. I'm not an electronics engineer, so I'm not sure how it works
For the Raspberry Pi, it was just a spare one that you can plug directly into the front of the printer. I printed a webcam mount to the printer so I could view the print (whole RPi setup was external from the printer)
frigid stag
Yea I was thinking of getting that cause it’s the cheapest. But if it’s something that needs to be upgraded soon I might as well wait and get the higher end one
worn wave
Might be able to find a used one that's already had some upgrades done, idk
craggy shoal
If you want something that just works, the Ender 3 is more of a "the poor man pays twice" type of printer. You'll spend time stressing and upgrading it anyways
But if you like tuning things, the Ender 3 is actually great lol
If I didn't have so many other hobbies, I'd focus my money on fully upgrading my Ender 3 (but I have a GTI now. I want to put my money into that lol)
frigid stag
Tbh I have no idea how to tweak with 3D printers, I barely know how they work
But ye I have other things I could spend the money on. So the $200 one looks most appealing
craggy shoal
True, but keep in mind that I've warned you lol
You'll eventually spend $100 in upgrades anyways lol. Plus a lot of stress with prints failing. Still overall a great printer for learning how they work
frigid stag
true
Unless it ends up costing as much as the 500$ one with the upgrades I’d probably get the cheaper one
craggy shoal
Keep in mind that you'll end up getting a better printer eventually anyways lol
I was actually going to upgrade from an Ender 3 to an A1. But at the time, the paused production of the A1 to figure out a recall with the power cable, so I ended up spending more and got a P1S instead lmao
frigid stag
I don’t even have anything complicated to print, idk what I’d make, probably some mouse shells for a start 💀
craggy shoal
You think that at first lol
If you've had a few moments like "man I wish I had a 3D printer for this one thing," you'll definitely go down the rabbit hole of printing everything
My gf got annoyed because I kept talking about my printer lmaooo (if you know me well enough, that says something)
frigid stag
royal crow
Intel core i was 14
craggy shoal
dawg what 😭
elfin mural
what
arctic lily
huh what
royal crow
Intel core i7
craggy shoal
Intel core i7
arctic lily
Intel core i7
atomic current
Intel core i7
royal crow
Was like 15 when they dropped the branding
arctic lily
Bruh
arctic lily
elfin mural
i like how the core i branding is so powerful some ppl still calls core ultra as core i
arctic lily
they do? that’s wild
elfin mural
i mean it's been forever since intel decided to ruin the naming
for smth weird
we went from p4 to core and core 2, then core i for almost a decade
it became iconic pretty much
arctic lily
what was before ryzen
elfin mural
amd fx
arctic lily
Oh
elfin mural
even before that would be phenom and athlon
royal crow
But yeah they released in 06
arctic lily
Athlon isn’t before it technically right because they are low low power CPUs
like celeron and pentium
elfin mural
athlon used to be high end
royal crow
So make that 20 yrs(sorry millenials)
elfin mural
then phenom came in and slotted in
elfin mural
phenom x2 x3 x4 x6 (core count)
arctic lily
Before that?
elfin mural
those were the fun amd times where you can unlock cpu cores that were disabled lmao
arctic lily
Turion?
elfin mural
nah
elfin mural
turion is low end
before that it was like..
amd k-xx (numbers)
and k-8 for example
royal crow
Was intel 80386 high end
craggy shoal
Remember when Intel was good?
arctic lily
I actually have this chip
upper rain
So make that 20 yrs(sorry millenials)
zoomers rise up
elfin mural
amd started off by reverse engineering intel chips
their cpus were literally intel design, just a cheaper alternative
slots right into the same socket
upper rain
no wonder intel hated them lol
elfin mural
intel stopped allowing that so amd had to start resorting to actually making its own designs
craggy shoal
I actually have this chip
You sure? The laptop looks gutted lol
elfin mural
funny thing is amd developed the x86-64 architecture
intel tried but failed with Itanium64
I-64
arctic lily
You sure? The laptop looks gutted lol
It is, it stopped working a long time ago one sec
elfin mural
so intel has always been paying for amd's license to make 64 bit x86 chips
in a way the two competitors benefit each other
elfin mural
because marketing i guess
intel downgraded the pentium name severely as soon as pentium 4 era was over
arctic lily
What socket is this
elfin mural
laptop cpu moment
elfin mural
that socket can take up to a quad core chip
phenom ii quad-core mobile
spicy single core
lowest of the lowest for mobile cpus
arctic lily
well if it actually worked
elfin mural
you were lucky to have a dual core turion then lol
arctic lily
i really want to get a refurbished model of this laptop to relive what it was like
arctic lily
you were lucky to have a dual core turion then lol
how so
elfin mural
those were like in more expensive models of laptops
arctic lily
oh nice
lemme find the model
its an HP pavilion dv4
but it also says altec lansing on it
whatever that means
elfin mural
that's audio branding
i used to also have a pavilion, tho it was equipped with i3 2310m
pavilion g4
now it's long gone, i gave its husk to someone lmao
sinful blade
arctic lily
now it's long gone, i gave its husk to someone lmao
i copied the entire os onto one of my drives before it was broken, and i found a lil something in it
elfin mural
i mildly regret digging into the rabbit hole of old amd marketing
and i know with personal experience that amd vision laptops does NOT run cool at all
even to the touch
they were hot, so hot they'd throttle and shut down
elfin mural
i copied the entire os onto one of my drives before it was broken, and i found a...
that kinda low quality spooky music is kinda nostalgic
dusk knot
Huh?
royal crow
gusty coral
Hello newegg ppl, is general the right place to ask this or the specific build part(s) chat? I have a parts list for my current PC I've had for some years and want to ask what's good to upgrade it
I've been wrapped in college and haven't been able to do too much research/practice building in years😓
arctic lily
Hello newegg ppl, is general the right place to ask this or the specific build p...
yeah i can help
send the list
royal crow
yeah i can help
Average titan w
arctic lily
Hold up don't think that worked
it did
Ok are you planning to build a new pc very soon
and what is your budget
royal crow
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Migweegwee/saved/#view=WTgC8d
This one?
gusty coral
Yes okay it worked! I've saved up around 1,500 for upgrade(s)
arctic lily
Yes okay it worked! I've saved up around 1,500 for upgrade(s)
Oh this is your current pc
gusty coral
Yes please, I'm getting close to running out on my current projects
worthy meteor
Yes okay it worked! I've saved up around 1,500 for upgrade(s)
With $1500, you'll probably want to upgrade everything but the case and fans
arctic lily
Yes please, I'm getting close to running out on my current projects
with your budget you can basically build a whole new pc
What do you want to keep with your current one besides case
gusty coral
I could keep fans, Case, and/or ssd and solid storage if needed
worthy meteor
probably good to keep the storage and just add onto it
arctic lily
I could keep fans, Case, and/or ssd and solid storage if needed
would you like faster storage or just more bulk storage
gusty coral
Can you run down which is for what? I have musicTheory work and making on my Daw, and I'm learning to make videos and stream
arctic lily
i guess more bulk would be good for you, so maybe another hdd
gusty coral
I apologize I'm not as updated as I used to be with pc stuff
arctic lily
no worries
are you fond of the idea of getting new cpu, motherboard, gpu, power supply, and ram?
gusty coral
If needed then I don't mind at all, and lot of this stuff is approaching 5+yrs old, right?
arctic lily
yeah its a pretty old build lol
i will get started on the list
Another thing, do you prefer an all in one liquid cooler for your cpu or an air cooler?
gusty coral
Air cooler is more than fine as that's what I've helped build in other ppl's things. You're talking abt the fan sets with tubing set just to cpu?
Like I don't have to be bending tube's n stuff?
worthy meteor
AIOs are all-in-one, you don't have to fill the tubes, you don't have to bend the tubes
arctic lily
This kinda thing
arctic lily
Air cooler is more than fine as that's what I've helped build in other ppl's thi...
liquid coolers are cooler and cooler respectively
lol
worthy meteor
it comes with coolant already in the loop and sealed for you
gusty coral
liquid coolers are cooler and cooler respectively
Lol okay then, let's do one of those coolers this time
arctic lily
The only thing with your case is that itll have to be mounted on the front
which is fine in terms of performance
gusty coral
Changing the case is fine with me, too
gusty coral
I've seen these L shaped open glass cases at my nearby tech store, let me find a picture
worthy meteor
I could keep fans, Case, and/or ssd and solid storage if needed
With just keeping case and storage, adding onto the storage, you can practically have a new build, but can also cut back and change bits here and there as needed
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWLG4p
worthy meteor
I've seen these L shaped open glass cases at my nearby tech store, let me find a...
Fishtank cases like the Y60?
arctic lily
With just keeping case and storage, adding onto the storage, you can practically...
that drive is wild lol
worthy meteor
that drive is wild lol
somehow it's the cheapest drive that's known to not be qlc at 4tb
gusty coral
Fishtank cases like the Y60?
Yeah yeah!
arctic lily
Yeah yeah!
they look cool but are expensive
gusty coral
I really like those more open face designs
If their price would impact the actual specs of the build, than I don't mind a cheaper case and save later
worthy meteor
that drive is wild lol
xg7000 can be qlc, ud90 can be qlc, p400 lite is unknown, vp4300 lite can be qlc, mp44q is qlc, p3 plus can be qlc, us75 can be qlc, nq780 doesn't have good data, g50 doesn't have good data, and somehow s880's 4tb model is only known to be YMTC TLC lol
arctic lily
what is qlc
worthy meteor
If their price would impact the actual specs of the build, than I don't mind a c...
fitting one into the budget is definitely possible, just have to cut some small corners
quad level cache, gives you more storage density but performs worse and can have less endurance than tlc
arctic lily
Yeah yeah!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D5PHHCK5?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1 how do you like the look of this
worthy meteor
If you're going to be doing work off of the drive with larger files, it's best to get tlc just in case you use enough to run out of the pslc cache and it has to start using the native nand
worthy meteor
Yeah yeah!
More fish tank options that you can look at:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWQQMML7
https://www.newegg.com/atx-mid-tower-sama-sv-series-abs-spcc-tempered-glass-cases-sv-01-black/p/2AM-009W-00063
arctic lily
If you're going to be doing work off of the drive with larger files, it's best t...
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4cG3C/silicon-power-ud90-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-sp02kgbp44ud9005 what do you think abt this
they might not need 4 whole tb
@gusty coral How long did it take to fill up your 3 terabytes
worthy meteor
ud90 2tb can be qlc too, tbh I'd just cut the corners and take the qlc xg7000 4tb to fit the case in, pslc cache tends to be big enough in general
gusty coral
More fish tank options that you can look at:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWQQMML...
These look dope, But I think I'll stick with black, The Monarch XR @arctic lily showed is very cool
arctic lily
These look dope, But I think I'll stick with black, The Monarch XR <@12878545944...
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9cLG4p full list (draft, dont buy anything yet)
gusty coral
<@661700597015248956> How long did it take to fill up your 3 terabytes
Around 2020-21 to now
arctic lily
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9cLG4p full list (draft, dont buy anything yet)
Mr1111 can you change the storage in this
gusty coral
I still got 200Gb sum storage left after cleaning old projects
arctic lily
Around 2020-21 to now
oh yeah then you should be ok with another 2
yeah do clean up old stuff too
gusty coral
Mk then!
worthy meteor
These look dope, But I think I'll stick with black, The Monarch XR <@12878545944...
What about the Sama sv01? that'll open you up to 360mm aios later if needed
novel ferry
wtf is this
arctic lily
What about the Sama sv01? that'll open you up to 360mm aios later if needed
the montech xr supports a 360
arctic lily
wtf is this <:JPhasnocomputer:1385022118827397191>
the plus is just another piece of metal 💀
worthy meteor
actually xr would be fine too, sv01 just supports both side and top mount 360
arctic lily
top mount is preferable
worthy meteor
anyways something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PWvrgn
Yea I'd do top mount, having extra options doesn't hurt though
gusty coral
What about the Sama sv01? that'll open you up to 360mm aios later if needed
Lets do that then, I was having a hard time picking between the two so either is great
arctic lily
anyways something like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PWvrgn
if you make it 2 tb more instead of 4tb they can get a 9600x
who buys a 7000 series for a brand new build anymore
worthy meteor
I would lmao
wary fjord
Screen on every pc components are the new meta now it seems
worthy meteor
it's like a 2% difference from 7600x to 9600x in most scenarios
worthy meteor
Lets do that then, I was having a hard time picking between the two so either is...
What exactly will you be doing with the PC? What specific applications?
arctic lily
Lets do that then, I was having a hard time picking between the two so either is...
both cases support 360mm aios
theres too many people talking to the builder
worthy meteor
I mean I'd usually take sv01 for the extra included fans but it doesn't really matter when there are already preowned fans
both are fine here
gusty coral
What exactly will you be doing with the PC? What specific applications?
Ill be doing a lot of at-dorm/home work for college and music on my DAW, I currently play smash Competitively and use my obs for recording vids and making videos/guides to share
sinful blade
How about moving to #building-and-recc-chat to get the conversation streamlined?
arctic lily
good idea
gusty coral
Ill be doing a lot of at-dorm/home work for college and music on my DAW, I curre...
It's made me want to play more pc games, and learn to start streaming them
arctic lily
everyne go there
gusty coral
It's made me want to play more pc games, and learn to start streaming them
A close friend of mine does motion design and offered to make my stream transitions and screens
sinful blade
Lucky.
gusty coral
Lucky.
Lmao yeah, I'm being "friend discounted" in exchange for it being a new format instead of just music synching
sinful blade
@gusty coral they’ve moved to #building-and-recc-chat btw
gusty coral
Oh kk! Thank you
dusk knot
Cheater cheater pumpkin eater
ah
gusty coral
Lmao yeah, I'm being "friend discounted" in exchange for it being a new format i...
Last thing, the agreement also has me making an original song for them to synch stuff to
dusk knot
peak heart
using 33w charger on a laptop which originally supports 45w would decrease its performance in terms of gaming?
elfin mural
very much so
icy ore
dusk knot
peak heart
is wooting the best keyboard out tbere??
novel ferry
the plus is just another piece of metal 💀
not even metal, plastic
arctic lily
not even metal, plastic
wild
worthy meteor
is wooting the best keyboard out tbere??
Currently, the best switch type is arguably Hall Effect magnetic switches, and wooting offers options with those HE switches, but they're not the only option and they can't really be called the best option either, there are cheaper alternatives that work just as well, and there are more expensive better custom board options
rancid juniper
royal crow
Hmmm
proud jackal
is wooting the best keyboard out tbere??
For gaming? Yes
dusk knot
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-says-their-gpus-do-not-have-backdoors-kill-sw...
RRRIIIIIIGGHHT
rancid juniper
RRRIIIIIIGGHHT
😂
a bit sussy ngl
why are they publishing that when no one talked about security?
dense locust
Seems the Chinese said nvidia gpus have a back door, according to the article
proud jackal
What about far bashing people over the head
Depends on the case
upper rain
Seems the Chinese said nvidia gpus have a back door, according to the article
Intel CPUs have since forever
rancid juniper
something something management engine
upper rain
yes
misty sparrow
Intel CPUs have since forever
So do AMD cpus
rancid juniper
yep
upper rain
So do AMD cpus
was not aware of this
rancid juniper
was not aware of this
its called AMD PSP
tranquil pebble
Warhammerpunk 40077
tranquil pebble
its called AMD PSP
the worst PSP ever, cant even play games
nocturne flicker
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-says-their-gpus-do-not-have-backdoors-kill-sw...
We have investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing
rancid juniper
We have investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing<:derpyBlob:8004153548914...
This is true
tranquil pebble
We have investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing<:derpyBlob:8004153548914...
nvidia is very guilty of plenty but until there is evidence of them spying I don't think it is unreasonable to assume they are not
elfin mural
i doubt nvidia spies on its users from a gpu firmware level
nocturne flicker
It is reasonable to assume a company is doing the worst, especially when it is monopolistic and has bad consumer relations
elfin mural
but its nvidia app software? likely
tranquil pebble
nvidia wouldn't build this into hw anyways, but in software/driver
rancid juniper
i mean, if they would they could
honest birch
rancid juniper
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/processors/amd-said-it-would-be-too-expensive-a...
honestly they should release it as a top end enthusiast chip
tranquil pebble
Intel didn't even need Ryzen to fall apart... it was falling apart internally on its own lol
dusk knot
Luna skin. Need
elfin mural
honestly they should release it as a top end enthusiast chip
if anything this can be a threadripper
tranquil pebble
16 core gaming Threadripper with all the lanes one could ask for
elfin mural
but cache only does so much in tr workloads
and sometimes it even results in regression
rancid juniper
Intel didn't even need Ryzen to fall apart... it was falling apart internally on...
There is this trope that stands true where "Insert whatever" killer would end up dying but it's rival destroys itself instead
tranquil pebble
I'd assume that applies to gaming too but we were just never near the performance plateau
elfin mural
tbh x3d does benefit you but
if you're looking at 1440p or above that effect starts to diminish
nocturne flicker
It applied in games that don't care about extra cache. The decreased clock counts effect performance
elfin mural
especially in gpu blind games
tranquil pebble
nvidia is not far off of just pulling a 2015 Intel and stagnating enough for their competitors to run them down
elfin mural
bound*
rancid juniper
IPC matters
tranquil pebble
IPC matters
AMD FX: lol whats ipc
nocturne flicker
AMD FX: lol whats ipc
8 CoReS
elfin mural
after seeing that im a bit skeptical about spending more for 3d cache lol
that money can be put towards like a better gpu
tranquil pebble
closer to 4 but yes it was bad
honest birch
Exaggerating
rancid juniper
4 cores 8 threads im guessing
tranquil pebble
inverted multithreading
rancid juniper
FX 4300 was 2 cores
tranquil pebble
4 cores 8 threads im guessing
no, 8 cores but every two cores shared some parts
it was cursed
elfin mural
it's more so because resources were shared
rancid juniper
no, 8 cores but every two cores shared some parts
what in the PS3 frickery?
elfin mural
effectively cutting the performance in half
elfin mural
since the cores have to wait to take turns to use the cache
and that's inefficient as hell
tranquil pebble
so basically, CPUs should not share
beyond high level cache yeah absolutely not
elfin mural
l3 cache is usually shared anyway
elfin mural
but that doesn't have as severe as an effect as l2 or l1
nocturne flicker
What if CMT in 2025
elfin mural
there's a reason l1 is per core
tranquil pebble
since the cores have to *wait* to take turns to use the cache
not to mention shared fpus
nocturne flicker
I bet it could be forced to work
tranquil pebble
not to mention shared fpus
absolute death for gaming performance
rancid juniper
What if CMT in 2025
DoA
elfin mural
fpu is like the cpu's math processor
elfin mural
sharing that naturally kills performance
rancid juniper
Intel's newest product <:derpyBlob:800415354891403275>
they have to be extremely high to do that tho
tranquil pebble
insane
meanwhile Intel was doing the proper opposite and putting multiple FPUs per core
lone mango
Intel's newest product <:derpyBlob:800415354891403275>
Brotha took it right outta my mouth 
Imagine
tranquil pebble
meanwhile Intel was doing the proper opposite and putting multiple FPUs per core
which is also what AMD does now... they learned
elfin mural
thank god it was corrected
tranquil pebble
a company can learn if it nearly kills them
elfin mural
without consoles amd would've been a goner
rancid juniper
meanwhile intel in 2025
elfin mural
like gone gone
tranquil pebble
without consoles amd would've been a goner
their investments into APUs ended up saving them
elfin mural
apu solutions ended up being the very thing that saved it
lone mango
a company can learn if it nearly kills them
The only way sometimes
tranquil pebble
Intel iGPUs generally always lost to Radeon iGPUs even back when they were on the mobo chipsets
nocturne flicker
without consoles amd would've been a goner
That and selling off a lot of their projects. Like selling the precursor to Adreno
rancid juniper
let alone radeon gpus
it would be a much sadder world ngl
honest birch
This bot bro
rancid juniper
my 7800xt has been doing amazing
tranquil pebble
Intel iGPUs generally always lost to Radeon iGPUs even back when they were on th...
AMD probably saw ATI was doing well here then acquired them and continued efforts there
lone mango
This bot bro
Fr
upper rain
it was cursed
inb4 (now axed) rentable units (intel) were aiming to do a similar thing
rancid juniper
alright intel where the rest of the gpus bruh?
lone mango
Tru
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too bad amd had to shed glofo
worked out pretty well for them tbf
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these days they're basically TSMC's closest partner, which is arguably a more advantageous position than simply having your own fabs
elfin mural
it used to be bleeding edge
lone mango
Lisa fab when
elfin mural
but glofo is now focused on legacy/long term nodes
upper rain
Lisa fab when
AMD buying Intel foundry
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Glofo also operates with negative income
elfin mural
oof
lone mango
automotive, electronics
Yeah I watched a video about them and they make chips for things you don’t really think about
I think the ceo said that
lone mango
AMD buying Intel foundry <:kekw:741678350791081994>
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Maybe then they would actually make a node
rancid juniper
hopefully Arm will be competitive against x86 (not counting Apple)
elfin mural
intel foundry is a disaster
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Glofo also operates with negative income <:derpyBlob:800415354891403275>
2024 reports had them operating with a 200mil deficit
elfin mural
anyone buying it would be insane
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samsung could use it tbf. Intel's nodes mostly work, but they can't find customers. meanwhile Samsung's mostly don't work, but they have tons of business connections
a merger would be goated
lone mango
When intel drops 14a development what node will they jump to
elfin mural
samsung got to make new chips for tesla
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As yes, two megacorps merging, what could go wrong
elfin mural
big money
rancid juniper
samsung + intel = neighborhood heater
rancid juniper
14nm++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Samsung the company with a country and Intel, the dumpster fire spiraling into the void being propped up by a different country
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As yes, two megacorps merging, what could go wrong
specifically intel foundry, intel as a whole would not need to consider merging with samsung. also that argument doesn't make much sense to me since both companies are flailing a bit. i'd rather have one working company competing than two failing ones not competing
elfin mural
intel 18A node is apparently facing yield issues
tranquil pebble
but glofo is now focused on legacy/long term nodes
they found a niche where they can survive. Honestly smart given how crazy TSMC went
rancid juniper
ngl they should shut down 18A i hear nothing but bad news from that Fab
this is getting ridiculous
tranquil pebble
Intel burning money in the wrong places fab wise ig
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It doesn't matter if both companies are derping out. Big companies merging is rarely if ever good and Samsung already has a ton of influence without getting a major foothold in the US
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intel 18A node is apparently facing yield issues
until we get (or don't get) panther lake i think it's difficult to say for certain how accurate this is
panther lake i think is going to be the best indicator of 18a performance
if, not withstanding architectural flaws, the chips perform reasonably well and are in large volume, i think we reasonably conclude that 18a is at least okay
tranquil pebble
It doesn't matter if both companies are derping out. Big companies merging is ra...
Microsoft getting Activision was enough proof there
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otherwise... might be toast
rancid juniper
It doesn't matter if both companies are derping out. Big companies merging is ra...
aint samsung contribute to most of South Korea's GDP?
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Yes
rancid juniper
☠️
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They also practically own the government
lone mango
20%