general-chat

[fresh timber]

iv been playing terraria on my laptop

glossy screen sucks in dark spots

this is truely a game a oled susceeds in

[lone mango]

@hoary zodiac if i clone linux to my new nvme do i have to clone the efi partition as well

[wary fjord]

I play terraria on my phone.. using wine xD my phone has amoled thats counted as oled right?

[lone mango]

I think only nobara is on the efi

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[wary fjord]

They going to replace them with ai

[fresh timber]

yes

if my phone was bigger and i had controller thing id do it

[rancid juniper]

😭

[nocturne flicker]

Need more for the money pit, fire everyone

Pretty soon going to be a shack and one guy named Bob scrubbing the floors

[rancid juniper]

honestly must suck to be anyone in the tech industry

constant firings like theres no tomorrow wtf

[dense locust]

Business doing bad? Fire people
Business doing good? Fire people
Business the same? Fire people

[nocturne flicker]

But guys we are building a water intensive silicon fab in a desert, that means everything is alright

[frigid stag]

Well they definitely hired the wrong people given how a lot of “modern” tech is

[fresh timber]

newegg

money pit

[rancid juniper]

literally

aint nothing you can do except waiting for the inevitable layoff

trash industry hope it burns someday

[nocturne flicker]

Sure, if firing a bunch of people and then hiring a bunch of new one results in better products, sure maybe the employees weren't that good. But we all know it is firing to cut costs and they'll still put out trash, just with less people

[lone mango]

5000 is not much

[frigid stag]

They had competent people in the Windows 7 days

[nocturne flicker]

Considering it was over 130k in 2022

[lone mango]

Shows how bloated they are

[rancid juniper]

at the end of the day thats still 5000 people who lost their jobs

we dont know if they are good employees or not

[lone mango]

amd had 28k in 2024

that is understandable

but how are 100,000 people working at intel

there must be lots of bs jobs

oh ok

so yeah

jobs where people just do stuff

[rancid juniper]

honestly thats on intel for hiring one too many people, could've placed a hard cap or something

[frigid stag]

Tbf they didn’t have much else to spend it on, back then amd wasn’t even remotely competition

Ryzen came like 2 or 3 years after

[lone mango]

i wonder how many of these 102,000 jobs are actually necessary

[nocturne flicker]

Intel is in a lot more markets and doing a lot more things than AMD

[lone mango]

yeah i would understand them having double their count

but over quadruple a few years ago kinda crazy

[dense locust]

Dunno let’s keep firing people until the company suffers

[rancid juniper]

real question is why did they make unnecessary positions, and is their hiring process even strict?

[nocturne flicker]

Their profitability got nuked in the cooling of the PC markets that happened after COVID was over, their CPU stuff happened and they had hired more expecting things to continue as they were just as everything blew up in their faces

[rancid juniper]

seems valid as this also affected many other companies after COVID

just wild

[nocturne flicker]

Doesn't help that they were sinking money into fabs just as everything was blowing up either

[rancid juniper]

lol

[wary fjord]

Need to drain those money its too much.

Down the drain they go

[rancid juniper]

money into nowhere

[lone mango]

the corpo way

[rancid juniper]

✅

[wary fjord]

Hows intel btw.. do they released counter yet. Are they back in game

Nice

Nice nice all pcores?

[rancid juniper]

XD no counters

[wary fjord]

Deym amd still straight flush?

[nocturne flicker]

They've also been getting rid of assets too, in the span of late December to late March 2025 they've dropped about 5 bil in misc. assets and short term investments

[wary fjord]

Intel needs to lock in

[rancid juniper]

yea

Ok but are they efficient with stronger single threaded performance?

I see

[tranquil pebble]

tbf it was the worst mass defect yet seen in their CPUs. Arguably worse than the Pentium bug from the 90s.

[arctic lily]

they did for the b580, very good card

[dense locust]

B770 intel
Make it happen

[frigid stag]

Ye they’ve always been consistent before

[rancid juniper]

Kinda funny when core ultra claims to be efficient with no HT but I'm pretty sure raptorlake is the same with HT off

[dense locust]

Isn’t core ultra made with tsmc

[lone mango]

2/3 will be e cores

[tranquil pebble]

arrow in the knee lake

[rancid juniper]

Lmfao

[frigid stag]

I know 1 guy that bought one, he had so many bugs with it

Returned right away

[rancid juniper]

Bruh

[lone mango]

Not only that

[frigid stag]

Or the Viking way

[lone mango]

There will be p cores, e cores, and lp e cores

Welcome back scheduling issues

[rancid juniper]

2 pcore 16 ecore reality

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-funeral-gif-20223048

[nocturne flicker]

8p cores 32 e cores 4 lpe cores go brrrrrr?

[rancid juniper]

They are adding extra problems too???

😂

[lone mango]

Waiting for the laptops

[frigid stag]

16 p cores

[arctic lily]

only 8 is sad

[rancid juniper]

Not real

[frigid stag]

12 p cores this year

Bartlett lake lga1700

[rancid juniper]

Bet windows scheduling still ain't fully corrected

[tranquil pebble]

imagine like a 128 lpe core processor

[rancid juniper]

Refreshed edition

[tranquil pebble]

Windows scheduling still has issues with e cores sometimes

[frigid stag]

I’d almost rather have only 12 real cores tbh

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[nocturne flicker]

To be fair I think the real rumor is like, 16p 32e and 4lpe

[rancid juniper]

Where are the threads?

[tranquil pebble]

I'd bet that Linux probably handles it far better

[frigid stag]

No hyperthreading

[rancid juniper]

L

[lone mango]

Its 52 max cores, 36 of which are e cores

[rancid juniper]

Another w ig

[frigid stag]

It’s an l for workstation users probably

Could’ve used more threads

[tranquil pebble]

Meanwhile AMD be like lets make a 192 core Epyc with SMT on it

[lone mango]

And at a 150w tdp. these cores will be slow

[rancid juniper]

We got
Fake frames
Fake cores
Fake games
Fake resolutions

[frigid stag]

The 14900ks is also 150w tdp

Supposedly

[rancid juniper]

Remember when cpus had 95w tdp?

I know tdp is not related to actual watts

[tranquil pebble]

i remember when 65 was the norm

[rancid juniper]

Even better

[lone mango]

Looks like there might be 3 core ultra 5s

[nocturne flicker]

Remember when...what was I saying?

[rancid juniper]

Peperidge farming remem

[frigid stag]

I don’t pay attention to tdp anymore after finding out my cpu can do 200w instead of 65w as they said

[lone mango]

All of them have 8 p cores but it goes from 8, 12, 16 e cores

at 125 w

[tranquil pebble]

then you have freaks like a 600 MHz microcontroller that doesn't even need an IHS or heatsink lol

[wraith fern]

my cpu has been idling at 19c

dang

[lone mango]

I think the ultra 9 has a too conservative power limit

[rancid juniper]

Chilly

low powered chips are out of the question unless you wanna pay top dollar

[lone mango]

There are two ultra 3s with one having 4 e cores and 8 e cores

[fresh timber]

guys

[nocturne flicker]

The rumor has the Ultra 7, with 14p 24e and 4 lpe, at the same PBP, of course it is

[fresh timber]

ultra 9 sucks

[lone mango]

4 + 4 + 4

[fresh timber]

hi i have a low poer chip

i do wish they gave me two LPE cores

[rancid juniper]

Oh you ended with core ultra 200v

Neat

[fresh timber]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

How's the battery

[fresh timber]

idk im always charging

[rancid juniper]

Oh

[tranquil pebble]

8 mb l3 kinda weak sauce ngl

[fresh timber]

i cap it at 80

how so?

8mb isf ine

you act like this is a gaming laptop

[nocturne flicker]

I'm always charging too. Credit card go brrr

[rancid juniper]

specs so convoluted

[lone mango]

Bro its 10 cores bro

[nocturne flicker]

Gonna need paragraphs for spec sheets

[rancid juniper]

bro what is assured POWER???

[fresh timber]

unironcily id buy a new laptop when i get a job, same laptop just oled display

[frigid stag]

Wait till u see laptops

[rancid juniper]

😔

[frigid stag]

The 275hx is better than 285h somehow

[nocturne flicker]

Funni name for non-boosting power use maybe?

[frigid stag]

And has more cores

[fresh timber]

give me 6 P 4 E and 2 LPE

[rancid juniper]

this company fails to get to the point

actually annoying

[lone mango]

What is this curve

[fresh timber]

what mobile cpu should i save for next chat

[rancid juniper]

mmm mountain

[fresh timber]

i wish i spent that $600 on a 9800x3d, oh well

would have a mid motherboard anywyas

[nocturne flicker]

I for one can't wait for the Intel Core Ultra Processor 1885ULH CPU with 1p core 125e cores 35lpe cores 24 lplpe cores and 1 lplpee core

[lone mango]

peepee

[nocturne flicker]

With a minimum power consumption of 10w, 25w, 18w and 12w

[lone mango]

Crazy curve

[rancid juniper]

lol

[lone mango]

Lets hope that the lp e cores are actually low power

[fresh timber]

E corse are low powe enough

i can idle at 6w

[nocturne flicker]

3 gens from now those lp e cores gonna use 30w each

Gonna make a cpu with just those and it is actually going to be an 11th gen i5 cpu with a new ihs on it

[lone mango]

I set the power limit on my 9060 xt to 150w and went down to -80

Now I match stock

[tranquil pebble]

20 years from now: llllllllllpe cores

[lone mango]

I oc the memory and now i pass stock just a little bit

This thing is so quiet rn

[fresh timber]

9060xt

weak

gt710 better

[misty sparrow]

GT 1030 the GOAT

[lone mango]

My cpu cooler is louder than the card

[royal crow]

Hell yea

[fresh timber]

my how

my gpu is louder

[lone mango]

I think its the 92mm fan

2518 to 2700 vram

[wary fjord]

Bringing my card at repairshop.. xD hope they fix the non spinning fans..

[dusk knot]

Very true. If you're familiar with the star wars Kenobi show and how much of a disaster that turned out, there was an interview with the script writer about how Lucasfilms watered down the show and story quality to being down right mediocre and unremarkable at best.

Hollywood is plagued with business men and women who are on top that have no sense of imagination or high standards when it comes to entertainment. They must be on the job just for the paycheck, not actually doing the best job possible.

[fresh timber]

its a sign to get a new one

9060xt is calling

it says Tomieeee buy meeeee

[wary fjord]

😂

[frosty sinew]

@wary fjord did u see jenk wiring

[wary fjord]

It just fan issue i can still play on it if i cap at 60.. but i really want this to get fix instead of deshrouding it

For asthethics

[wary fjord]

Whats jenk wiring

[frosty sinew]

my monitor

[wary fjord]

Yeah i did quite bulky tho aint those have small version

Same ratings

But it works it works that all it matters

[frosty sinew]

yep

[dusk knot]

[wary fjord]

What % u guys put the aio fan on?

[frosty sinew]

i have it ramp with temp

[wary fjord]

Yeah whats the curve look like

[frigid stag]

I never checked I think 100%

[dusk knot]

Must be nice having a computer

[wary fjord]

Whats the lowest i guess? I do 20% on idle.. it does 40c.

[dusk knot]

Theo moment

[dense locust]

bell

[wary fjord]

You have oled and 5080 tho hahaha

[wary fjord]

Down and it goes up on middle then down again?

XD

[tranquil pebble]

will forcing Windows to use UTC time cause any issues?

[wary fjord]

In computer no

[dusk knot]

Must be nice

[wary fjord]

In human xD maybe

[lone mango]

2800 vram passed 5 minute vulkan memtest

[fresh timber]

i dont let them go past 30%

non of my fans do unless they really have to

[wary fjord]

Nice

[lone mango]

gonna do 2850

[wary fjord]

Quite setup

[fresh timber]

yeah i have 11 fans

i dont need fast

[tranquil pebble]

That is all that matters, because I am just annoyed with Windows messing with my RTC

[wary fjord]

Where u put the last one? I can only fit 10

[lone mango]

My bottom fans are at 71% and top at 69

[wary fjord]

3 top 3 side 3 bot 1 back

[lone mango]

I have a 2% difference to avoid resonant frequencies

[fresh timber]

what case

[wary fjord]

Oh no ... I have no idea about that xD i have

They all running same % xD

[lone mango]

If its low enough it wont be audible

[wary fjord]

Ow its a sound i thought its performance or something

[lone mango]

Or maybe the fans are a little different so they all have different resonant frequencies

[wary fjord]

Yeah im wearing headset my desk fan is louder masking any noise besides it hehe

[lone mango]

My bequiets are all exactly the same so when I set them to 70% there was a hum that went away when I did 71/69

[wary fjord]

I just wish they put something to take out the wire Easy xD.. its easy to put it in.. takes alot of force to take it out

Too much wiggle

To take it out

Or am i just weak

[fresh timber]

im hungry cloud

[lone mango]

Nah fan splitters can suck too

[wary fjord]

Its fine alsong they have external power draw

[lone mango]

Ok screen flickered at 2850

[wary fjord]

Not on your mobo

[lone mango]

2800 it is

[lone mango]

fr

i am hungry for 1% perf increase

[fresh timber]

overclock

duh

[lone mango]

correct

[wary fjord]

Any fps matters they stack up

On benchmark

[fresh timber]

touh screen on windows is better than linux but still mid

im trying to use two fingers to make a PIP window bigger, doesnt work

[lone mango]

I felt touch was always mid

[fresh timber]

im ngl i thought i wasnt going to use it... i use it all the time now

[lone mango]

I am a loyal moise user

[fresh timber]

like scrolling or tapping something i dont feel like mousing over to

[wary fjord]

If you draw like jp... Touchscreen is ❤️

[fresh timber]

john pork draws?

[wary fjord]

Touchscreen is also ❤️ on blender sculpture

Better than mouse its like u relly molding a clay hehe

[royal crow]

Or drawing tablet

[wary fjord]

Yeah but it doesn't support presure point and tilt so i dont know

[lone mango]

Will increasing the core clock offset introduce instablility or will only the voltage offset increase instability

[fresh timber]

i want oled mini display thats unironcily better t han anything

[wary fjord]

Hmm

[lone mango]

Lol this thing is trying to draw 200w but cant

[dusk knot]

Ye

[fresh timber]

$99 oled

[misty sparrow]

something's not right here

[lone mango]

-100 core this is crazy

-110

3430 mhz

great the power supply fan kicked on

ok with iem in it is not very audible

[wary fjord]

Low key i want 2nd monitor but small and just foldable xD for website preview while im coding

But need one with accurate color

[fresh timber]

deadass ill take a foldable one

kyy

wait

chat

are these usbc powered

[wary fjord]

1080p need 1440p.

[fresh timber]

why

its 15 inches

also.. how do you power those monitors?

[wary fjord]

Different viewport

XD

I already have 1080

[fresh timber]

does usbc power those displays

[wary fjord]

I think they have external adapter+ hdmi thiny.. or straight usbc

The only usbc I have is back of mobo

My gpu doesn't have it

Does it carry display and power right?

[fresh timber]

fr

thats what im saying

usbc can carry power and display

so i was wondering if they can get powered by the usbc and get display from it, and then take external power when connected to something that doesnt provide power like a hdmi cord

[wary fjord]

Yeah more make sense if my usbc is on gpu

But its on mobo.. no idea if it can carry display

Maybe needs igpu?

[fresh timber]

depends on motherboard

ngl

not many will

[wary fjord]

So just power?

[fresh timber]

yeah

mhhhhh

$50

[wary fjord]

$69 but with vouch its $55

2k IPS

Will get it at October def gonna help me not to split screen... web and my ide xD its too crowded on my desktop when i do web or android stuff xD

Hmm do i need 144.. never had dual monitor yet.. if my 2nd monitor is 60hz my main also running 60hz?

[lone mango]

I am beating stock performance at 150w

[wary fjord]

Nice

[lone mango]

So your main monitor is 60

[wary fjord]

No

144

Wait is that a question or answer

XD

So 60hz second.. 144hz main.. everything 60hz?

[fresh timber]

$4000

if u only need one cable this would be fire

[lone mango]

I am actually surprised how stable rdna 4 is on linux

I am literally overclocking on here and i am chilling

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fixed

-140 core? no way

No way this can be replicated on another game

[upper rain]

if only he knew how bad things would get

[upper rain]

my non xt did -125 in everything, -150 in benches. would die in some games tho

[royal crow]

What Costco sells 4090s

[lone mango]

I went to my lower power profile and did -150

Computer froze

[upper rain]

nice

[upper rain]

cool ones

you wouldn't know

not invited

[lone mango]

Froze and crashed. screen went black and green

lost signal and came back to frozen game

[upper rain]

sorry that was mean i would invite you to the cool costco

[lone mango]

I think -140 is the highest for my 150w profile

[upper rain]

suboptimal but also -150 is a bit insane anyway lol

[upper rain]

oh ur also dropping PL?

[lone mango]

Yah

[upper rain]

i thought you meant just UV and let it rip for max clocks lol

[lone mango]

I have one for 180 and one for 150

[upper rain]

what are you clocking at with ur 150/180w profiles?

[lone mango]

Damn I just crashed my system again

I forgot to increase offset

[lone mango]

150 is just over stock

Vram oc is carrying it

Like 4% over stock

[upper rain]

bruh radeon genuinely pisses me off with the way they release insanely efficient architectures almost every gen but tune the vf curve like idiots and ruin the gains

[lone mango]

Im just surprised I can do this in linux. Honestly was thinking I was gonna be crashing at stock

But they got rdna 4 support real good

[lone mango]

Nvidia too tho

Both overvolt their cards

[upper rain]

true, but less so imo

Blackwell almost needs to be silly bc it's pretty much just overclocked blackwell lmao

[lone mango]

I think it is less but its not much

[upper rain]

ada i felt was reasonably well tuned with the exception of maybe the 4080/super

[lone mango]

I think tsmc nodes just do really well at lower voltages

You can get so much perf at like 2/3 of the power

Actually even half

2/3 would be like just under stock speeds

[lone mango]

Seeing the 4090 use like 250 in some benchmarks is impressive

[upper rain]

yeah lol

[lone mango]

Although its power draw varies a lot

[upper rain]

my 4070 ti super ate 300w

[lone mango]

Occasionally going to like 400 lol but a lot of times it was under 300

[lone mango]

I swear I have seen 213 at one point

Probably because it clocks lower

More clocks eat more power than more cores

Look at 9070 vs xt

2/3 of the power but is in fighting distance

Or 6700 xt vs 6800

[lone mango]

Even 9060 xt vs 9070

My stock power limit is 182 and the 9070 was a little over 200 right

I think sapphire pulse gn video was like 210

[lone mango]

Vram overclock is helping

But still yeah

Seeing av1 in recording settings got me geekin

I finally have it

[upper rain]

tbh i forgor that rdna 4 has av1 lol

[lone mango]

It didnt crash at -150 with 180w so ima let that run for a bit and see if it crashes

[lone mango]

They fixed the hardware level 1080p bug and slightly increased encoding efficiency

[upper rain]

neat

[lone mango]

b-frames are better

Think hevc is better by like 10%

nothing crazy

The main one they talked about was avc which is a big gain

I lowered my bitrate for replays because of that

Ok

The image before this looked like a die shot

[wary fjord]

Price of used car

[lone mango]

That was eerie

[upper rain]

not anymore

[hoary zodiac]

mfw package update screws up your initramfs

So now I'm reinstalling the kernel

[lone mango]

How the hell that happen

[hoary zodiac]

Uh

The initramfs update failed

And then I didn't bother to do mkinitpcio

It was halfway building the kernel image and then aborted

[lone mango]

Im actually over stock by 50mhz

30-60

now at -130

[lone mango]

Why did that happen

[hoary zodiac]

God knows

[sinful blade]

Go back to #linux-and-android smh

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

🗣️

[lone mango]

3.5 oc

literally cpu clock speed

I saw it peak to 3.57 for a half second

I crashed

[hoary zodiac]

Ok

I think I have another theory

My efi might be full

[wary fjord]

Hahahaha

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

This dude is funny

[spark halo]

Well i go from one problem to a new one

Pc now running at 70c

Under max load

[fresh timber]

how is that a problem

[spark halo]

The thing was scalding hot

Is it supposed to be like that

[fresh timber]

70c isnt hot tho

thats cold

[spark halo]

Odd

[fresh timber]

not really

[spark halo]

My case was scalding hot when i went to turn it off today

[fresh timber]

yeah thats heat

spin the fans faster if u care

[spark halo]

I have them on max lol

But i mean your right

More fans

[hoary zodiac]

@lone mango ok so

My efi partition was full

That's why it broke

[lone mango]

How big is the efi partition

[hoary zodiac]

1GB

not small at all

[lone mango]

Oh the boot partition

[hoary zodiac]

apparently I can only fit one kernel

[lone mango]

Yeah with nvidia you need more space

[hoary zodiac]

hm

do you reckon it'd be fine if i just gparted it

[lone mango]

For some reason nvidia stuff is stored there too I forgot why

[lone mango]

I think gparted is safe but I have not used it yet

[hoary zodiac]

I'll probably just keep it just zen kernel for now

[lone mango]

Safe as in not easy to ruin everything

[hoary zodiac]

until the next time I reboot

I like to have linux-zen and linux

just in case one breaks

[lone mango]

Try 2 gigs

[hoary zodiac]

2 gigs would probably be fine for 2 kernels tbh

[lone mango]

2 will be good

[hoary zodiac]

the initramfs and the initramfs-fallback are rougly 700-900MB

oh wait

nvm

They're not that big

yeah 2 gigs will be plenty

[lone mango]

Cachy defaults to 2 gigs probably for that

Nobara was 1 but if you picked the nvidia version it would probably be 2 as well

[hoary zodiac]

I manually partitioned so

I assumed 1GB would be enough

normally it is but I have 2 kernels installed

[lone mango]

I can choose from 3 kernels and half of my boot partition is full

[hoary zodiac]

you can install another

if you do pacman -S linux-[insert kernel]

[lone mango]

mb i meant kernel versions idk if that makes a difference

[hoary zodiac]

you just have to update grub to let you pick the different kernel

oh

[lone mango]

never used a second kernel before

[hoary zodiac]

I do it more as a fallback

[lone mango]

I see people mention zen kernel with cachy

[hoary zodiac]

I use linux-zen because it's got a bunch of quality life improvements

but can be sometimes unstable

[lone mango]

What does zen kernel provide over linux kernel

[hoary zodiac]

It's got a bunch more modules

and optimizations

It's basically just a tuned linux kernel

It's relatively stable

as far as custom kernels go

[lone mango]

If I were to get zen would I have to change repos to get zen kernel updates

or will it automatically change if I boot from one kernel to the other

[hoary zodiac]

on nobara?

it depends

some of the standard packages don't work with custom kernels

[lone mango]

Does it depend on distro

[hoary zodiac]

you have to use the -dkms package

yeah on arch you just install it

linux-zen is in the regular arch repos

[lone mango]

Oh so for you it would just be automatic

[hoary zodiac]

ish

nvidia doesn't work on linux-zen

so you have to use nvidia-dkms

not sure if nvidia-dkms works on linux tho

[lone mango]

Would you have to manually change that when you go back to linux and vice versa to get the proper packages

For updates

[hoary zodiac]

hm

oh wait

the dkms packages usually work with most kernel versions

the dkms packages contain the build files as well so

you can build the needed driver for whatever kernel you're using

[lone mango]

Ok so the two big things about zen is that it uses a different scheduler and runs at a higher tick rate for lower latency

[hoary zodiac]

it also contains a couple extras

some stuff just work without having to install extra stuff or do extra config

I forgot exactly what it was but it was useful at some point

[lone mango]

Yeah some ease of use stuff things like that

ight

Hmm

Cachy kernel seems to be what people really like

[lone mango]

Thats pretty good

My cpu goes to like 75 max

My 6700 xt was going over 90c

undervolted btw

[wary fjord]

Too high

[lone mango]

Yeah I think the paste needs to be replaced

ptm time

[wary fjord]

In games or benchmark?

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

Games

Although the game I was playing hits it hard

[wary fjord]

It should not go past 60 in game

[lone mango]

That game is more like a benchmark honestly

If I can run warframe well I should be able to run other games well typa thing

[wary fjord]

Hmm ptm might help yeah+ it will never crust

I think xD

[lone mango]

Actually 90c was lower

I saw it right around 100

100 is a big deal

lmao

[wary fjord]

If u say 90c and it was the memory temp.. that seems fine.. but if the core is 90c.. something off with it.

[lone mango]

Yeah it wasnt like that before

It used to be 60 and 80 on the core

[wary fjord]

Time to repaste

[lone mango]

vram is just under 60c

[wary fjord]

Ive never repaste my card yet since 5 years hehehe.. good thing only the fan gave up

[lone mango]

Ngl

I am in love with this 9060 xt

I knew I was gonna like it before it even came out

[wary fjord]

Hmm yeah its cool card

[hybrid pagoda]

Zero RPM is the bane of my existence

If I forget to set my Adrenalin profile, my shit crashes mid-game because of Zero RPM

[fresh timber]

Anybody good at terreria

[fresh timber]

I don’t think it’s working right

[hybrid pagoda]

No it isn't, apparently it's a known issue with my specific build. When it's on, the fans don't seem to be responsive enough to switch on when they're needed

[hybrid pagoda]

Geez what're you doing

[fresh timber]

web brwosing

[lone mango]

Idk how he is always at max

And here I am complaining about linux using 3 gigs instead of 2

[fresh timber]

i didnt touch my pc for 2 days and this happens

[misty sparrow]

he has many open tabs in incognito mode

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qofCDZR6JRM

[lone mango]

Well

It is at least a video card

[hybrid pagoda]

Maybe your memory is diseased

Have you tested it for alzheimers

[fresh timber]

i got tired of playing terraria on my laptop, time to play on my pc

hello foxer

[elfin mural]

hallo

i slept too much today

[fresh timber]

oo

terraria

[lone mango]

I had a soft crash at -140 after 30 minutes

I think -135 should be good

[fresh timber]

flash 9070xt bios to 9060xt

[lone mango]

If not then -130 should be rock solid

[lone mango]

I dont think the tool has been updated yet

[elfin mural]

my laptop has good cooling but i kinda don't like turbo mode

it's fairly loud

then again that's laptops for ya

the gpu and cpu immediately gets 10-15c cooler when i kick it into turbo instead of balanced

[fresh timber]

oh this game is so much better on keyboard

i was making my self suffer

[elfin mural]

i wonder if 13450hx is a downgrade from 7735hs

8c zen 3+ vs 6p4e raptor lake

[fresh timber]

intel will prob win ngl

new arch

[lone mango]

Sounds like turbo mode

[elfin mural]

yeah i watched a vid

it's faster

despite the 6 p cores

[fresh timber]

makes sense

it has more cores

[lone mango]

I read it too fast

I thought it was zen 4

[fresh timber]

yeah its zen 3

thats why intel wins

[elfin mural]

ive been eying tuf f15 2025 with 5060

[fresh timber]

im a intel guy

ill always go intel

[elfin mural]

the ideal choice to replace my 2023 tuf

[fresh timber]

why do u wwant new

its fine in 2025

[elfin mural]

4050

[lone mango]

When the product name is like the previous one but the first number doesnt mean the generation

[elfin mural]

that's the reason

[fresh timber]

i wish i had a 4050

[elfin mural]

i want moar

[fresh timber]

if my laptop hd a 4050 in it, id be so happy

[elfin mural]

5070 variant comes with 1600p screen

too many pixels

[fresh timber]

do u have tthe $$$$$$$

[elfin mural]

i'd rather wait for best buy to drop the 5070 tuf a16 to 1k or smth

amd, and 1200p screen

i'll just import it

[fresh timber]

am i weird for prefering INTEL laptops

[elfin mural]

i honestly only care about amd because of efficiency alone

[fresh timber]

erm

[elfin mural]

but if i have no choice, intel is ok

[fresh timber]

u know my intel cpu is prob more efficent than any amd out rn right

[elfin mural]

there's no lunar lake gaming laptops

[lone mango]

Both intel laptops I got were not good

[elfin mural]

[fresh timber]

[lone mango]

My next laptop will not be intel

[fresh timber]

egpu

easy

amd needs to set up

[elfin mural]

maybe i might just land on loq gen 10

[fresh timber]

itst too appealing not to stick to intel

[tranquil pebble]

video has more ads than content just about

[elfin mural]

ryzen 7 250

5060 with 32gb ram and 1tb ssd

but the screen is terrible

good color gamut, however.. 25ms response time

[fresh timber]

damn

i got touch screen, they cant skimp on response

[elfin mural]

gsync won't even save 25ms

all in all asus seems to offer the best i guess

just gotta wait for a price drop

i'll have the $$$ but the less i spend, the bettah

[fresh timber]

i wish those dedicated EGPU things wasnt expensive, but they include a full gpu

[elfin mural]

same

they're so expensive

[fresh timber]

they should be $300

[elfin mural]

yeowch

all that for 7600m xt

[fresh timber]

they making it cheaper for me to make a egpu my self

grab my 7700xt, a normal egpu dock. smh

[lone mango]

Thats that egpu life

[fresh timber]

only advantage those got is throwing it in your bag

[lone mango]

just how it is

[fresh timber]

but if u want more performance, your stuck with it

[elfin mural]

literally paying the extra for gamer laptop gives you more value

[fresh timber]

gamer laptop battery life sucks sadly

[elfin mural]

though ofc lunar lake's efficiency is

[fresh timber]

im allowed to say they all suck now

[elfin mural]

very good

real

[fresh timber]

im GAMING with good battery life

[elfin mural]

12 hours on windows

and with some juice left

[fresh timber]

i would legit sit in school playing games just cause i dont feel lik eleaving

next semseter i have two inperson classes and a online class

im going to have SO much freetime, and my mom doent want me working so i wil be doing alot of gaming

[lone mango]

Intro stuff is easy you should probably do 4

Unless you already set up a plan for all of your semesters

[elfin mural]

gamuh

[fresh timber]

shut

[elfin mural]

finally no side exhaust

no toasty hands

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber my hypixel account got ratted

[fresh timber]

i like side exhaust

[fresh timber]

how

i dont like laptops with big lip at end, i like slim and performant

[acoustic palm]

yknow how my acc is an acc share one right

[fresh timber]

u dont own the quok account or what ever its called

did somebody in ur coop get ratted

[acoustic palm]

flashqt account yeah, so i invited a friend i knew since 2022 to the acc share and he looted us

[fresh timber]

so you have ur stuff still right

[elfin mural]

i like the fact that asus throws in one 16gb stick

[fresh timber]

i dont, give two 8gb

[elfin mural]

i can just pay $30 n have 32

[fresh timber]

i found something i shouldnt have

[tranquil pebble]

apparently pickled cactus is a thing

[fresh timber]

what about pickled joker

[tranquil pebble]

literally me with slimes

[acoustic palm]

nope

[fresh timber]

thank god i have my stuff

you had me worried

[lone mango]

@upper rain So 105 is the max for g6

It will throttle past 95 though to avoid hitting 105

[fresh timber]

Hi

[fair onyx]

Man, I just watched the trailer for that ready or not game... It looks horrible lmao

I have never watched a trailer that made me want to play a game less lmao

[lone mango]

Yeah it was better before they censored it

for normie approval

I am sure there will be mods on pc to make it like how it used to be

[fair onyx]

The visuals, the sounds, the pacing, the scenes in general, it all looks like a low budget game from 2015. I feel like they were trying to evoke a sense of emotion, but my god it just felt so try hard and unpolished lmao

[lone mango]

It looks fine to me

[worthy meteor]

The console release trailer is so terrible, go look at their 1.0 trailer from a year ago

[lone mango]

Well I didnt see the new trailer but the game itself looks good

[worthy meteor]

they took multiple steps back in the wrong direction

[lone mango]

Yeah the game got review bombed hard

[fair onyx]

Thats the one I saw. Oh my god its abysmally bad lmao

let me watch the original

[lone mango]

I bet the comments are going off

[worthy meteor]

the trailer being bad is separate from the review bombing stuff

[lone mango]

Yeah i know

[worthy meteor]

the trailer is so, so bad

[fair onyx]

this original trailer is better, yeah. Still looks pretty rough tho 😅

The trailer one is wayyyy worse tho lmao

is this from a small studio or something?

[worthy meteor]

I'd call the 1.0 trailer decent, it's not great but it's not bad

[fair onyx]

both trailers have massive "Did the best we could on a shoe string budget", which if thats the case, then kudos to them

[worthy meteor]

I think they are a relatively small studio

[fair onyx]

That makes sense then I guess

so whats this BS about the censorship?

Oh wow, seems to be a big deal, jeez

[worthy meteor]

they decided to change things on the PC copy of the game too to comply with console rules because they said it was too hard to separate the visuals between the PC copy and the console copies

the actual differences are very small but it's the intent people are mad about

[lone mango]

Mods will fix it

[fair onyx]

oh, neat, so they compromised their vision and what likely made them stand out in order to make more money on a different platform. Man I love game studios

[worthy meteor]

ofc but that doesn't matter

it's about what the studio does for their creative direction

[fair onyx]

its called not having integrity, in my eyes

[lone mango]

Ok I get the trailer now

The cringe fake narrated stuff

[fair onyx]

I'm really jaded about games right now. All of the subnautica 2 stuff has seriously soured my mood towards new games. I have been so hyped about that game for over a year, and now I'm likely never even gonna buy it

[hoary zodiac]

lol

[worthy meteor]

like yea but it felt like they consistently had something going for them in the previous trailers before the console release, like this one between the 1.0 trailer and the console release trailer
https://youtu.be/BbxznEErPZQ

[fair onyx]

the original trailer has it too, and its just goofy, but the console trailer is way worse lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I haven't bought AAA in years

There's like one or two games that I'm actually interested in

[lone mango]

That sucks because the game is actually good

And idk what you are saying but the game looks pretty good

ngl goes hard

[hoary zodiac]

Out of all the recent AAA games

[worthy meteor]

the game itself is very good

[hoary zodiac]

Expedition 33 is the only game on my wishlist

[fair onyx]

to me it looks like its from like 2016/2017. bad lighting, really poor facial expressions, bad dynamic range and scene density. I guess its just a difference in preference

if a game is trying to be gritty and real, I think it should try to look gritty and real to immerse you

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

If you think about it

That's like half the AAA releases

[fair onyx]

One game I am constantly stunned by in terms of the graphics going so hard is Back4Blood. The game for sure had/has some issues, but that game looks sooo damn good, even on the lowest possible settings

[hoary zodiac]

Mediocre graphics, mediocre gameplay

Overpriced

[fair onyx]

Like the fact that Back4Blood still looks this good on all minimum settings is so cool to me lol

granted, this is a really basic scene

[hoary zodiac]

Is the game optimised?

[fair onyx]

let me go somewhere more detailed

[fair onyx]

I'd say so

[hoary zodiac]

Would be nice if you can run this on a

Relatively low end pc

Say

[fair onyx]

my friend plays it on a 1050ti lol

[hoary zodiac]

I5-8500 and GTX 1070

[lone mango]

Oh so they did downgrade the graphics for the console version

Damn thats crazy

[hoary zodiac]

Mostly saying 1070 because

Vram

8500 and RX 580 maybe?

[fair onyx]

my friend plays on 4GB VRAM

[hoary zodiac]

Damn

Recent release too

[fair onyx]

On my 3090 its using 4.5GB VRAM

if it was on a smaller GPU, I am sure it would be leaner

[hoary zodiac]

I wish more games are optimised

A lot of studios just throw stuff together in UE5

Without care to the visuals

[fair onyx]

I can get 260fps at native 3440x1440 in this game with my 3090 power limited to 55%

no upscaling or anything

throw in some DLSS, and you're golden

[hoary zodiac]

The good thing about older games is that the devs actually optimized the visuals in maps

You can see that through games like L4D2

Wouldn't be surprised if Back 4 Blood kept up the tradition

Of actually optimizing the game

[worthy meteor]

the textures aren't great, but in-game, they use shadows and lack of lighting a lot for the atmosphere

doesn't work well for trailers though

[lone mango]

Seems like they degraded graphics for everyone with the console release

[hoary zodiac]

I tried to play the game

Apparently it doesn't like Linux

[fair onyx]

Little show off of the MINIMUM visual settings in Back4Blood

[worthy meteor]

those graphics reminds me of the 2013 tomb raider lol

[hoary zodiac]

I think at that point it's more that they took the time to optimize the map

That's why the minimum settings don't look complete dogshit

[fair onyx]

Obviosuly I can't show off everything, but my god there are some maps with such insanely dense stuff everywhere, and it just looks goooood

[hoary zodiac]

Kinda gives doom 2016 vibes

That game runs really well

[lone mango]

Lol system monitor cant read the memory speed when it goes to its highest power state

[fresh timber]

I GOT A MUSKET

[fair onyx]

There you go, a better minimum settings example

[fresh timber]

syatan get ur bf on

me and my gf making more progress

you gotta catc up

[fair onyx]

He hasn't been available to hang out for a bit, I miss himmmm

[fresh timber]

invite an AI time machine

[fair onyx]

What the hell, why is the video I sent so damn laggy

it showed perfectly fine in the preview

[fresh timber]

its laggy sometimes

[fair onyx]

annoying. I wonder why it recorded bad

@fresh timberNow you made me feel needy for my boyfriend 😭

[fresh timber]

im projecting

[fair onyx]

I miss him so much, its been like 10 days

[fresh timber]

my gf is sleep rn

wow

[sinful blade]

@fresh timber how do I find a cheap gpu to buy for under $200

[fresh timber]

ebay

or me

[sinful blade]

DMs

[lone mango]

https://ebay.us/m/ZrMYTk

[lone mango]

@hoary zodiac wtf

Did my drive just fail

Wait no

These are all desktop environment things

Ok everything back to normal after reboot

That was probably the weirdest thing I have seen so far

[hoary zodiac]

Trolled

[velvet summit]

Video kojima

[hoary zodiac]

Untrue

There are no feet in sight

[velvet summit]

🧐

[lone mango]

fr

They had me for a second

I recorded a 1440p 60 fps video with 10 bit av1 and it was only 780 mb for 3:35

[wary fjord]

Just give it write perm

Sad if it fails

[lone mango]

The whole thing locked itself down because of something

[wary fjord]

[lone mango]

It was the desktop environment

[fresh timber]

chat

[lone mango]

Damn i thought what i sent was a 6600 xt

https://ebay.us/m/Umec9F

what i sent earlier was a 6600

damn that card is cheap

[hoary zodiac]

based

[lone mango]

It was variable bit rate but the file details say 30 mbps

I could double that and that would still be good in my standards

[tall pine]

@fresh timber @idle nexus so continuing my PBO per core tuning it seems 5.9Ghz is about the sweet spot for CCD1.

[lone mango]

so close

[hoary zodiac]

I usually go for the smaller file size

If it's going to be uploaded to streaming

The trick is to go for enough quality that it won't look worse than youtube compression

[tall pine]

Agreed.

Currently working on the 4th out of 8 cores on CCD1.

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if they make dual core k cpus anymore

[tall pine]

Once I get the best stable negative CO for each core figured out then I will start adjusting some voltages to try and yield better frequencies.

[tall pine]

Dual core?

[hoary zodiac]

easier to oc

[tall pine]

Please elaborate.

[hoary zodiac]

Generally with lower core count cpus you can crank them to a pretty high frequency

[tall pine]

For some weird reason my best core is also my worst core.

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loECMG2ySr4

It's pretty useless from a practical sense

but it's fun to play with

[tall pine]

It can hit the highest frequencies out of all the cores but hates being undervolted.

[tall pine]

Oh so you literally meant a two cores K CPU?

[hoary zodiac]

le funny

[hoary zodiac]

yeah

[tall pine]

Very impractical indeed.

[hoary zodiac]

but hey le funny 6.9GHz on a kaby lake

[tall pine]

Though you can buy a 14900K and just disable all but the two best cores for the samish result no?

[hoary zodiac]

It's completely useless but it's funny

not sure

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

iverckicj'

[lone mango]

Damn I remember these

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

Once I figure out my best pe core Undervolt without raising voltages I might turn my 9950x3D into a 6+6 layout if the results are good

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it does make sense tbh

you are pretty much cranking the best silicon to the max

[tall pine]

Hits 6.05Ghz with -23 CO.

[hoary zodiac]

would be interesting to get a good silicon chip and just run the best core

[lone mango]

[tall pine]

But isn't stable beyond -15 CO.

[lone mango]

My gpu peaked at 3.57 ghz but it crashed like 5 minutes later

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how a 285k overclocks

[tall pine]

Which is infuriating.

[tall pine]

I had HWinfo misread my best core at 15Ghz lmao.

[hoary zodiac]

especially if you only run p cores

[lone mango]

Arrow lake overclocks really well

Intel underestimated their capabilities

They didnt wanna have another raptor lake so they took it easy

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

if the prices come down

they might be a decent platform to play around with

[lone mango]

Youtuber called graphically challenged made a couple oc videos about it and it can get really fast

[hoary zodiac]

get a pa120

overclock it to 6GHz

and if you don't need the multi core perf

turn off the e cores all together

[lone mango]

Intel also added the soc boost option

Sucks that people dont care anymore

[hoary zodiac]

they cost too much for people to care

[lone mango]

If you do some cope you can have a really fast arrow lake cpu

[hoary zodiac]

honestly

[lone mango]

The boards are brutal

[hoary zodiac]

If you need single threaded perf

arrow lake might work

[lone mango]

And pcie lanes

[hoary zodiac]

but like

$559.99 for a 285k

no thanks

[lone mango]

z890 has 24 pcie 4 lanes

[hoary zodiac]

That costs more than an x3d

9950X3D is $656.86

[lone mango]

24 from the cpu makes 48 total

[tall pine]

Most 9950x3D have very little OC room though

[hoary zodiac]

oh

I should've clarified

[lone mango]

The cache is whats carrying it but still

[hoary zodiac]

I was going back more to the practical side

to why nobody really cares about arrow lake

[lone mango]

You should be able to do +200 pbo with a chip like that

[hoary zodiac]

they just cost too much

[lone mango]

I mean just the coverage of the improvements

I only know of two guys that covered anything

[hoary zodiac]

9950X3D also has more fast cores

so there's two clear use cases

[lone mango]

Graphically challenged who made two videos about it and der8auer made a few over the generation too

[hoary zodiac]

one where you want core count and performance matters less

or you want zooming cores

but in the case of the 9950X3D

ehhhhh

that's also a mixed bag

Especially with ya know

half the CCDs having X3D

[lone mango]

Ultra 9 just edges out r9 its not a whole lot

[hoary zodiac]

and the other half being a regular chip

[lone mango]

That stuff isnt as big of a big deal anymore

[hoary zodiac]

yeah but still

[lone mango]

At least now thats the case

[hoary zodiac]

both cpus have their own tradeoffs

I'd probably still go for the 9950X3D tbh

simply because there's more fast cores

[lone mango]

Its gotten a lot smarter now. plus you wouldnt want to have it on both anyway because that gets even more expensive and you still have the latency penalty from going to two ccds

It wouldnt be as bad but still

[lone mango]

And curve optimizer my beloved

A guy in here got a 9950x3d recently and his cores were drawing 155w

total package drawing 200

16 cores drawing that much is remarkable

[tall pine]

In the Overclockers discord most people can't even do +100 stable.

[lone mango]

Damn

Have I just been lucky then

[tall pine]

Most struggle to get -10 CO stable on CCD1 and only about -15 on average from CCD0.

[tall pine]

Extremely.

[lone mango]

Both cpus I had could do +200 and undervolted

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder

what platform has really good silicon

[tall pine]

I see maybe 1/10 9950x3D owners run beyond +100mhz on one of the two CCDs stable.

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how much I can push an 8350k

or a 9350k

[tall pine]

You have a 9700x yes?

[lone mango]

9600x and I swapped from a 5600

[hoary zodiac]

Kinda tempted to get a Z370 and a 9350K

[tall pine]

Those seem to have some headroom from what I have noticed as a result of being cutdown chips.

[hoary zodiac]

oh look a bundle with exactly what I want

[lone mango]

This makes sense

[hoary zodiac]

although

why is there a stock cooler on a k sku

[tall pine]

I think it's a combination of luck and it not being a already extremely well binned chip.

[fresh timber]

chat

i did it

[tall pine]

I gtg now will check back later.

[lone mango]

Makes sense

hmm should i use b frames in obs when i start using my capture card again

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how much I can push a 7350k