general-chat

[lone mango]

I dont have a good spot to take pictures

[frigid stag]

These are op af

[lone mango]

tf

[frigid stag]

Touch screen case before hyte y60

[fresh timber]

Reverse sag

[exotic ingot]

this is an old photo

but even just with my phone

[lone mango]

Good lighting does wonders

[lone mango]

I do not think that is clearance

[exotic ingot]

^ sold that PC for $500

[fresh timber]

5090 with 5600g when

[exotic ingot]

^ sold this one for $180

[sinful blade]

If you ever got any spare GPU’s taking up space, I will gladly lighten your load

[exotic ingot]

bet you would

XD

[exotic ingot]

thats what that build originally looked like

[upper wedge]

What’s the weirdest build you’ve done @exotic ingot

Genuinely curious

[exotic ingot]

uhhhh

wierd in what way

[upper wedge]

Weird in as awkward or like, strange to you

[lone mango]

like

a weird build

[upper wedge]

Yes

Like have you ever done a shoe build

Or a Jerry can build

[exotic ingot]

i bought a PC to litterally just dust it and take better photos to resell it for $300 more

that was kinda wierd

[lone mango]

[exotic ingot]

i bought a hardline looped PC with no GPU, put a GPU in it, and sold it for a profit of $500

I avoid like, highly custom stuff cause the time and labor to go into it you dont get back out for a flip @upper wedge

[upper wedge]

Every build is so clean

[exotic ingot]

this is how i got it from the guy

just in the back of my car

lol

it was like 90% there

[upper wedge]

😭 man insane luck

[exotic ingot]

just better photos and cable extensions and a rear fan

no i swapped out the fans for RGB fans

and moved the fans on the AIO

super basic flip

[proud jackal]

did you buy it

[upper wedge]

Still pretty good luck, flipping in my area is like a war zone

Anyways have you done any strange cpu + gpu pairings?

[exotic ingot]

i bought this for $1700 off a guy

[upper wedge]

Holy custom loop

[exotic ingot]

i think it was $1700

[fresh timber]

Time to assemble and sell this piece of poop https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6nDwnp

[upper wedge]

Have we minmaxxed

[exotic ingot]

i put a 7900xtx in it

and sold it for $2800

[fresh timber]

Yes, yes we have

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/g5-gear-5-gear-5-luffy-luffy-one-piece-gif-17561618586234107710

[exotic ingot]

uhhh, name a GPU

700 series to 3000 series and AMD equvalent

[fresh timber]

6500xt

[exotic ingot]

i think i have a build with one, one sec

[upper wedge]

Smth like a 5090 (unrealistic but still) and a i9700

[upper wedge]

Or a 14900k + smth ancient

[exotic ingot]

naw that would be dumb

[fresh timber]

6700 non Xt?

My friend bought that for $200

[exotic ingot]

i5 6500, 16gb DDR4, 6500xt

[frigid stag]

Titan x gtx 6gb

[fresh timber]

Ooo

[lone mango]

Welcome back rx580

[exotic ingot]

Titan X 12GB

maxwell

never had a 6gb

i keep that one on the shelf

just for the look of it

[exotic ingot]

havent done one

[frigid stag]

The 2015 one was 6gb no?

[exotic ingot]

i had a Titan Z for a while

[fresh timber]

Ooo

[exotic ingot]

no the 700 series one, the Titan and the Titan Black were 6gb cards

[fresh timber]

9070xt when

[exotic ingot]

not unless i get a commission

lol

too new

[fresh timber]

😦

[exotic ingot]

6000 series AMD wasnt very popular for used market

[frigid stag]

Nvm that was Titan black

[fresh timber]

Ima have fun selling a rx6600 pc

[lone mango]

Same

[exotic ingot]

i think i have a 6600 or a 6600xt sitting around

lemme check

[fresh timber]

Stop copying me

[lone mango]

Mine is better

[fresh timber]

Mines better

[lone mango]

[exotic ingot]

6600 Swft

[lone mango]

I have that card too

[exotic ingot]

I had a 6750xt at one point thi

[exotic ingot]

was a custom order

for an all new build

[fresh timber]

Go to budget MATX case, go

[exotic ingot]

uhhh, name one

or a brand

[fresh timber]

Uhh

Idk

I need one for flip

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6nDwnp this flip

[exotic ingot]

i liked the Q300L a lot

lol

[fresh timber]

Oh

No

I have that

It suck, I couldn’t not scratch it

Try again

[fresh timber]

Gpu barley fits

[lone mango]

LMfao

The shoe pc is real

[fresh timber]

I want

[upper wedge]

Arrived before Father’s Day

[exotic ingot]

i was gonna say deepcool had some cool ones but RIP deepcool

[upper wedge]

Is deepcool like gone for good?

[fresh timber]

You can buy the rebranded products

lol

[lone mango]

I almost bought a deepcool case until I saw the shipping price

[exotic ingot]

OHHHH

the DIYPC QUBE

is goated

DIYPC ARGB-Q3-W mATX mini case

https://www.newegg.com/diypc-micro-atx-tower-steel-tempered-glass-computer-case-black-diy-cube01-bk/p/N82E16811353239

i think this is the newer version of it i guess

for only $55 kinda nuts

[fresh timber]

Goat

I get that

[lone mango]

What platform you sell on

[icy ore]

Gonna pay extra for the next build I do and just ship all the parts straight to your place and let you build it for me

[fresh timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKogfUtiTbY i found my new fans

[hoary zodiac]

I got spare WDs

Who wants them

[lone mango]

Drown it out

[fresh timber]

chat

the rtx5050 is comming out next month perhaps...

value??

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-5050.c4220

[lone mango]

wtf

slower than a 6600

What is the purpose of this

When the 5050 has as much ram as the 5060 ti

[fresh timber]

maybe the a310 of nvidia

[lone mango]

idk maybe a couple years from now

[fresh timber]

if its cheap enough id buy one for a flip, run fortnite on it

[lone mango]

its gonna be expensive

[fresh timber]

what do i want

for birthday in 3 months

what do i put on my list

more ssds 🤔

[proud jackal]

Why did I buy this

[fresh timber]

5090 when

[proud jackal]

I don't even stream anymore

[fresh timber]

why do u have ewaste2

[lone mango]

Pretty cool they havent rose

[fresh timber]

thats the 8gb one

it should be $250

change my mind

[lone mango]

Even the 16 gig cards

[misty sparrow]

You should stream only your fan collection

[lone mango]

Last night I saw a $350 prime on newegg

[fresh timber]

16gb is good price

it matches my 7700xt

[lone mango]

White asrock was like 380 or so

[fresh timber]

wanna know whats funny

my 5500+9070xt is running fortnite raytraced getting the same fps my 11600k + rx6600 used to get back in the day

[slate ice]

I’m looking for help on a new pc build. Can I post pics here?

[fresh timber]

#building-and-recc-chat

[slate ice]

It’s probably super basic stuff

I’m a noob

Anyone free to help me real quick?

[topaz crown]

Hello @slate ice! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[lone mango]

Ok I am about to buy everything. I think I will go with this first option
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/snTrC8
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yzn2Lc

[fresh timber]

nice choice

im going with diy pc

get me some of those fake lian lis

[icy ore]

Love it being 3am and not being able to sleep

[lone mango]

I think a black nr200 with orange rings visible from the mesh might go insane

[fresh timber]

i need to remove this 2nd gpu

[lone mango]

4 am and im doing some school

[fresh timber]

it poop

[icy ore]

Gross

[fresh timber]

How do yall feel knowing you will never get fsr3

[fresh timber]

cloud

[lone mango]

yo

[fresh timber]

i really really realllyyyyy want to buy dum crap

[lone mango]

Yeah you have this consoomer thing going on sometimes

[fresh timber]

yes

do i buy it

lcd fans

[lone mango]

Well you know what im gonna say

[fresh timber]

yes

ur goig to say do it

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

i want new fans in my case lian li are reasling new ones

at $50

[lone mango]

Are the wireless ones coming out

[fresh timber]

they been had wireless ones

[lone mango]

Or the lcds you are talking about rn

[fresh timber]

they been out

https://lian-li.com/product/uni-fan-cl-wireless/

i want

daisychain

i also want that case but for another build

its a $50 case so its going in a budget build

[lone mango]

Oops I forgot to charge my fans

[fresh timber]

do u like the new lian li case

i wish they made cases with 5 hdd slots

[lone mango]

Yeah its a fishtank but without being dual chamber

Thats cool

[fresh timber]

its a nv5 clone but for less

[lone mango]

I think you can get away with saying all recent lian li cases look good

They know what they are doing

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/G5Maw95cy0Q

real

[fresh timber]

Do I want new cpu or new monitor

Mhhh

I want new motherboard with out broken Argb 🤣

What could I sell to cover cost of new motherboard and ram

[fresh timber]

if i disable my 2nd monitor i drop by 30w.. its just a 720p tv dawg

[dusk knot]

Gm wegg

[craggy shoal]

Mmmm laptop with no screen

Holy airball

Insert Reddit post "How cooked am I?"

[upper rain]

[craggy shoal]

Some people still use a 1060

[nocturne flicker]

2.17% of the Steam Hardware Survey respondents

[craggy shoal]

Just wow

[paper verge]

waddup unc

[upper wedge]

Hmm how can I check whether ram is A die or not

https://sellout.woot.com/offers/g-skill-trident-z5-ddr5-ram-32gb-2x16gb?utm_medium=share&utm_source=app

[paper verge]

check the serial number

pretty sure gskill tridents are all a die

i mean pretty sure most d5 is a die now

[dusk knot]

Finally
.some good speed in Brazil. last ime I was there it was sub 1mbps

[paper verge]

man get outside go talk to the latinas smh

[rancid juniper]

bro went back for a second round

[sinful blade]

Nearly all 8gb cards

[tranquil pebble]

I did Touhou hijack on Xbox game showcase announcement lol

[tranquil pebble]

I have 4060 laptop, and 6900 XT desktop

At 1080p it runs pretty well if the game is not an unomptimized mess

[ancient swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIVmyOIV1MQ

I wonder what the Z2 A is, we only have the Z2 Go out right now. I can't find the Z2 A anywhere. unless they mean just Z2? o.O

[dusk knot]

That's why I'm here.

[dusk knot]

Brazil is lit

Great people and great culture

Florida is dead to me

[rancid juniper]

Lol

[rancid juniper]

Wild how imma get a 4060 laptop while having a 7800 XT desktop

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber I hope I don’t get fired

[mental yoke]

ur fired

[acoustic palm]

😦

[mental yoke]

from whatever i can fire you from, probably a trebuchet

[acoustic palm]

No one picked up when I called in to call out of work

[mental yoke]

there all dead jim

[acoustic palm]

Real

[mental yoke]

cus u didnt goto work

[mental yoke]

i got you a cookie

[dusk knot]

What the

[acoustic palm]

I have a cold

[dusk knot]

I'm astounded by the amount of handhelds coming out.

[acoustic palm]

My parents tried to force me to go into work but I somehow managed to convince them to let me not go today

[mental yoke]

punch the cold in the cajones

[pliant berry]

Im sorry but that thing looks ugly as heck

[ancient swift]

Agreed. but I wonder how it actually feels to hold.

I hope I get one to use at work. Been using an ROG Ally(Z1X) lately lol.

[pliant berry]

True, just from the looks of it I feel like the grips are a little too angled for me

[acoustic palm]

I wish

[dusk knot]

You got a point

[ancient swift]

yeee. But I might be too used to the other other ones in terms of the way I grip them. Steam Deck, Legion Go, and the ROG Ally we hold it pretty high on the console.

[lone mango]

Where 5080 black screen

[upper rain]

don't ask questions, just consoom $1500 blackwell gpus

[lone mango]

Oh it does have black screen

It happened twice

[frigid stag]

I can get it for 1100 🥱

I have a plug

[lone mango]

How is 3060 back on top

[frigid stag]

Always was

[lone mango]

These numbers move too much

[lone mango]

4060 was for a bit

[frigid stag]

It was 3060, 1650, 2060 and I don’t remember the rest

There’s more 3070 and 4070 owners than 1060s damn

I need to get that 5080 to stay competitive. Can’t have plebs have the same level gpus as me

[sinful blade]

.

[upper rain]

there is a reason for this ;)

[next knoll]

Aren't there some games like Vegas something

[upper wedge]

i've been thinking about this alot but wouldn't the "15th" gen still be considered dead? It doesn't sound like they'll make a newer generation of z790's since their Ultra core whatever series took the z890

talking about the nova lake btw, kinda like a cash grab almost

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[dusk knot]

This

I already feel better than most players in rivals after getting a 5080

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-better-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-better-gif-25853880

[tranquil pebble]

Persona 4 Revival has been announced. A tad disappointed with the title they went with but at least it is no longer rumor status.

[dusk knot]

Sus plant

[lone mango]

Fr

[tranquil pebble]

eat it

[rancid juniper]

atleast its real

but man its dummy short

i dont really like teasers but ok

That cod Black ops 7 trailer tho caught me off guard because wtf was that premise?

[tranquil pebble]

Atlus confirming the leak at least allows me to discuss it in servers that do not allow rumors

[rancid juniper]

PERSONA 4 YAPPING ACTIVATE!!!

[tranquil pebble]

including the official Xbox Discord

[rancid juniper]

im not much of a fan of that title tho, revival???

😂

[tranquil pebble]

should have been Rewind

[rancid juniper]

^^^

absolutely

[tranquil pebble]

Modders are gonna fix it lol

only a question of how quickly

[rancid juniper]

NO FORZA ANNOUNCEMENTS

[ancient swift]

Its literally a continuation of the Cradle from Bo6. :l

[rancid juniper]

😭

[rancid juniper]

i dont even play cod

[tranquil pebble]

that last Forza Motorsport was a bomb, so idk if we want a new one... maybe Horizon

[ancient swift]

Ah, well that explains ittttt

[rancid juniper]

Yea im waiting for horizon

Id get Horizon 6 day one

aswell as persona 4

[ancient swift]

Too bad Test Drive was a bomb. was hopeful

[rancid juniper]

dont remind me 😔

[ancient swift]

Woulda filled the Forza Horizon itch lol

[tranquil pebble]

IMO they should do a Forza Motorsport 8 and pretend that "Forza Motorsport" never happened lol. Just continue off of 7.

[rancid juniper]

no switch 2

interesting

[tranquil pebble]

Switch 2 might not be able to run it

[rancid juniper]

this

i mean iirc test drive is trying to make a comback just like cyberpunk

adding a casino this year and next year a game engine overhaul

[tranquil pebble]

it has a CPU clocked at a max of 1.1 GHz lol

[rancid juniper]

their main focus is optimization and server stability

[rancid juniper]

gotta get low powered for optimal batt life

[tranquil pebble]

not even phones run that low these days

[dusk knot]

Switch two only as good as Ps4

Weak

[mental yoke]

Geez

[tranquil pebble]

not even, pretty sure CPU is weaker

[dusk knot]

💀

https://youtu.be/3njzvmkEZGo?si=cMKtOkcrxQpcDWnv

[ancient swift]

Did he get it already? o.o

[dusk knot]

Let me have one yikes, please

Watch

[ancient swift]

Whaaaat

[rancid juniper]

alright sony... WHERE PS HANDHELD?

[ancient swift]

I want it

at work. not to buy it

[tranquil pebble]

if they do make one, it will be grossly overpriced

[rancid juniper]

😔

sad reality

imagine they did the same mistake that killed the vita

[tranquil pebble]

They already have a $99 phone controller which is stupid

[lone mango]

How are you still suprised

You posted like 4 times or smth

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-14307036094483991064

[tranquil pebble]

Only Bocchi merch I have is a fumo

[icy ore]

Hmmm

[velvet summit]

i thought that was marine for a sec

https://tenor.com/view/houshou-marine-kumarine-kuma-marine-cute-long-bear-gif-8841886675810905577

[misty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839452469477769236/916800847512473680/HgnGdPSt.gif

[velvet summit]

arent those the same thing

[kindred sluice]

Got DAYUM is the Switch 2 bad ass

[paper verge]

that a question or a statemnt

bruh

[kindred sluice]

Been playing the crap out of MKW, Mario Odyssey and Zelda

[ancient swift]

Xbox Ally handheld specs:
Z2E Zen 5(3+5c cores/16t), 16 RDNA3.5 CU's(890M), 24gb ram, 1TB. 1080p screen, 120hz, VRR, 500 Nits peak brightness. 80wh battery.

Z2A Zen 2 (4c/8t), 8 RDNA 2 CU's(Tuned Aerith from the Steam Deck) 16GB Ram, 512GB. 1080p screen, 120hz, VRR, 500 Nits peak brightness. 60wh battery.

Really wondering how much they will try to subsidize it with similar or worse performance due to windows overhang.(Referring to the Z2 A one)

If 300$ was the aim, that'd be insane. But I can't see them doing after raising Xbox prices lol.

[lone mango]

Doesnt it have some kind of cut down image of windows though

Even then there is still overhead

[kindred sluice]

Probably. Gotta optimize it as much as possible. it's a low power handheld

[icy ore]

Yeah they didn’t release a price did they?

[frigid stag]

Real. Helps you play better

[dusk knot]

Yeah lol

[proud jackal]

narrator: it didn't.

[opaque sedge]

I’m wondering if it will run steam games or nah

[dusk knot]

if it’s fully WINDOWS. YES

I noticed they tried to purposely promote their Xbox game pass for the majority of the trailer besides a small glimpse of the epic store for games like Fortnite

It’s almost as if they know that some or if not most people will exclusively buy their handheld for steam

That’s what I would do

Xbox pc game pass is weak in comparison

I've cancelled twice so far. Didn't like it

[opaque sedge]

If its compatible with steam and can natively run xbox game pass not some cloud bs then it sounds awesome ngl

Sucky of microsoft not mention the steam part tho

[ancient swift]

actually, looking at existing pricing. Why would this be MORE expensive than the Base ROG Ally which Asus already sold at 399? its weaker in every metric outside of the 8 CU RDNA 2 Gpu instead of the 4 CU RDNA 3 GPU. I think it'll be 349 or lower tbh.

[opaque sedge]

Its got some good games now and indies too, its a good way to try out games before u get it on steam i suppose

[nocturne flicker]

My shoe is an Xbox

[opaque sedge]

I’m abt to rma my steam deck (faulty trackpad haptics) and thinking of getting gamepass to try out new games for it

[dusk knot]

Weaker????

[ancient swift]

It can natively run games yeah. Phil has been adamant about native games on their platforms.

[dusk knot]

Pre-order canceled

[opaque sedge]

For when i get it back

[frigid stag]

Why do you need to be 21 for it 🤨

[ancient swift]

The Z2 A one is weaker than the Z1 non extreme besides the GPU yeah.

Z2 A is a tuned Aerith APU, same as whats in the Steam Deck.

[dusk knot]

I would never go for the Z2 A

[opaque sedge]

And its got a 60whr battery? Yeah they’re def competing against the lcd deck… after nearly half a decade lol

[ancient swift]

The Z2 Extreme is a much stronger APU than the Z1 Extreme or AMD Aerith so its fine depending on the price imo. No Oled though.

[opaque sedge]

[opaque sedge]

Has the 890m from the hx370 i believe

And zen 5 cpu

Really hoping its efficient

Cuz that increases the chances of a steam deck 2 in the next gen

[paper verge]

bro funny enough i had a xbox shoe

[ancient swift]

Yeah, I can't see the Z2 A working at a 399 price because of the Steam Deck and Current ROG Ally non Extreme already being priced there.

It has to be cheaper.

[paper verge]

it was an adidas DON shoe lol

[opaque sedge]

And they need to provide an initial incentive too

Like a year of game pass for example

Unlikely but just saying it to convey my point

[nocturne flicker]

The initial incentive is that it'll kill Xbox console sales even more

[opaque sedge]

Its like they’re giving up on those ngl

[nocturne flicker]

Consoles being relegated to the dustbin of video gaming history is a day I yearn for tbh

[opaque sedge]

Even upped the prices

Like do they want the consoles to sell or nah

[ancient swift]

and the 4 RDNA 3 CU's does trade blows with the 8 RDNA 2 CU's depending on wattage and game. So yeah, it is weaker than the base ROG Ally on Paper Z1 non extreme vs Steam Deck in Cyberpunk for example.

[paper verge]

bought a cooler master qube 500 to see how it is, honestly one of the most mid cases of my life lol

[opaque sedge]

Also i hope the xbox handheld is a success with its multi store support, so even the nintendo consoles fall

[ancient swift]

If you mean the Xbox Ally, its still windows. Should be able to use Steam and other launchers lol.

This version of the Xbox launcher will be coming to the othe windows handhelds

[opaque sedge]

The steam decks chip is such a marvel older gen cpu and graphics core yet hyper efficient and provides nearly the same performance as the z1 chips at the same wattages

[lone mango]

Ok but do you have the sneaker pc

[ancient swift]

Yeee.

[paper verge]

why would i have that stupid thing

[nocturne flicker]

Consoles are just closed ecosystems that are being dragged kicking and screaming into a more open reality. The Playstation has more time but is going to crumble with time, Nintendo is the one that needs to have a good wack

[paper verge]

it doesnt look good bro

and its big asf iirc

[lone mango]

Its hilarious

[nocturne flicker]

One day Mario shall be on PC

[frigid stag]

What’s the point of a console then

[opaque sedge]

A whack strong enough for Nintendo’s ass to disintegrate

[paper verge]

do you have it
?

[lone mango]

Nah i just found out about it last night

[paper verge]

fr? isnt this from like 2 years ago

[nocturne flicker]

Consoles used to be cheap ways of playing games usually dedicated to that console. Console exclusivity and low prices were the entire poinf

[paper verge]

i think and simplicity

[lone mango]

Yeah just about

[frigid stag]

I wouldn’t say cheap compared to now at least

[paper verge]

most people rlly dont wanna deal with hassles of a pc

and it makes total sense

[nocturne flicker]

Cheap in comparison to a computer

[frigid stag]

I remember getting together a pc for like 400 to 500 in 2014

[rancid juniper]

bro Arm on windows have got to be better bro

i need a rise in PC ARM

[frigid stag]

It worked well

[paper verge]

isnt windows like refactoring their code for ARM?

[rancid juniper]

never heard of that but hopefully they're doing it as we speak

because im tired of these power chugging chips

[nocturne flicker]

Back in the day, console were way cheaper than a decent PC and if all you wanted to do was play games, it made sense

[paper verge]

im pretty sure they said that a few months ago

something about refactoring the entire code base which is crazy

[rancid juniper]

if they can do it right, you'll get really fast arm chips that uses very little battery life on handheld

and native arm code

so games run just as good as x86

[paper verge]

man if they wanna refactor win code which is from like 10 years ago

its gonna take a solid 2 years

[rancid juniper]

im totally fine with that

[nocturne flicker]

Keep in mind, when modern consoles started, something like a NES was 1/4th the price of a home computer like the C64

[rancid juniper]

as long as something is done

better late than nothing

[paper verge]

Who knows maybe the xbox handheld is a test

to see if its worth it for ms to do this

[rancid juniper]

now its completely flipped somewhat

[lone mango]

Yeah because personal computers were more niche

[nocturne flicker]

And the C64 was considered the low end market

[rancid juniper]

🙏

[lone mango]

But now semiconductors are way more expensive

[sinful blade]

Did you know
If you boost the server, you get access to a secret chat

[nocturne flicker]

The suckers channel

Chump channel

[mental yoke]

oh too secretive had to delete my message?

😏

[paper verge]

bro what kinda ad is this

btw is it just me or does yt literally give everyone 2 solid 20 second ads before videos now?

[mental yoke]

dont use youtube so dunno

[paper verge]

its crazy

[nocturne flicker]

Been doing that for a while now

Google has gotten extremely aggressive

[mental yoke]

very

[nocturne flicker]

Need to pay for those AI farms

[paper verge]

well i mean

[mental yoke]

well cus they see how bad the world works with one company lol

[paper verge]

i would say that, if they fell through with the whole Anti ad movement they had going on

but as far as i know they stopped

[nocturne flicker]

Didn't someone say just a couple days ago that their ad block got bypassed and got slapped with the no adblocks message?

[mental yoke]

🤷

[nocturne flicker]

It was ggood

[paper verge]

i still dont understand how discord runs only on nitro

like how much money is it making them

[mental yoke]

warthunder discord

[paper verge]

i dont get it? cause the leaks or what

[mental yoke]

some things are more valuable then money

[paper verge]

and how does that make discord money? bro what

[mental yoke]

platforms where people think they have any amount of anonymity

basically

[paper verge]

Discord doesn't give data away (unless its by law but thats literally every other company in the states)

[mental yoke]

k

states only eh?

[dusk knot]

Hmm

[paper verge]

man i dont know why you are talking in cryptic, and nor do i get why cause what you say doesnt make sense lol

[mental yoke]

discord doesn’t need money to operate is all im saying

people flocking to something is enough

[proud jackal]

[nocturne flicker]

That is not how businesses work

[paper verge]

i mean discord never advertises itself to be anywhere close to anonymous

i dont understand where you are going with this

[mental yoke]

only the sith deal in potatoes

[nocturne flicker]

Discord gets money from both Nitro and investor funding

[paper verge]

discord is not obliged by china to give peopls data way dude

[mental yoke]

but whats stopping them from doing so

[paper verge]

given a permit which as far as i know is public, discord must give data to the us gov

[paper verge]

thats a criminal act

[mental yoke]

ok throw discord in jail lol

[nocturne flicker]

Because if they sold data, the government would find out how unregulated the platform is

[mental yoke]

[paper verge]

the only one time i remember discord giving data is with that one school shooting incident

and it was only after it happend

[dusk knot]

Hmm

[mental yoke]

ur losing sight of the bigger picture in my overall meaning but yea

regardless

give discord ur money

[paper verge]

i think i gotta agree with weary on this one

[mental yoke]

right now and newegg

[mental yoke]

what if they just give it away for free

[lone mango]

[nocturne flicker]

There is literally videos on Youtube about discords where crimes actively take place

[mental yoke]

and vice versa

[ancient swift]

Did y'all see Gamefreaks new game trailer? is it a sign that Nintendo and Creatures are holding gamefreak back or nah?

[mental yoke]

dude imagine a bonafode pokemon on android/iphone

[ancient swift]

https://youtu.be/L-qZiMPsNz0?si=xBUGWdq6eU4xYEgG

[ancient swift]

Not pokemon, their own IP

[mental yoke]

oh

wait that the vid?

[lone mango]

The grooming servers

[ancient swift]

Yes

[nocturne flicker]

Grooming is minor compared to some of the servers Discord hosts and pretends doesn't exist

[ancient swift]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[mental yoke]

looks like mon hun with robots

i wonder if i’ll live to see hl3

[ancient swift]

I think this is the kinda game they want to make pokemon into somehow, they put a lot of ARPG mechanics in Legends Arceus

[paper verge]

Your saying there is worse crime on discord than the rest of the internet? density wise

[mental yoke]

wearing socks with sandals

and sharing it on discord

[velvet summit]

discord is probably operating as a skeleton company nowadays

[mental yoke]

like 98% of the world after covid lol

[velvet summit]

meh idk

[paper verge]

before the pandemic i remember they had videos where they would have weekly parties at their hq

it was an interesting place

[lone mango]

The elite covid power grab

sotru...

[mental yoke]

i need to olay that one but i havent been able to get i to a game for awhile

playing ratchet and clank now

its nice

[nocturne flicker]

I'm saying Discord doesn't do much if anything to ensure highly illicit activity doesn't occur on their platform and what little they do is easily circumvented. While platforms may have a fair amount of protection from what users post, I imagine they'd get in trouble for how lax their moderation is if anybody seriously paid attention to them

[paper verge]

Apple punished them a bit, but its such a large platform i think its gonna be really hard anyways

the only way they'd know is by reports and i doubt anyone reporting on something they are a part of

[ancient swift]

They confirmed in the behind the scenes that any storefront you wanna use you can on the Xbox Ally.

Really hoping this goes public for my Legion Go lol

[frigid stag]

actually its a feature included on those servers they ignore

probably cuz theyre involved in them too

[dusk knot]

[upper rain]

probably discord, instagram, reddit, twitter, then everything else

pretty large gaps between each of these tbf

but all tragically and absurdly high

[acoustic palm]

i went to work but got cut early since overstaffed so at least i can study for finals

[frigid stag]

Reddit is probably the worst of them all

Ig Twitter is up there depending on which part of it you’re on

At the right time and right place you can straight up get doxxed just for “arguing” with someone

[dusk knot]

This was all you!

😤

[rough zinc]

Nuh uhhhhh

[dusk knot]

Yes uuuh

This was your doing!

[rough zinc]

Idk, I dont see an Alec killed chat sticker

[dusk knot]

Going to make one soon

[rough zinc]

Shiiii

[fresh timber]

Hi @upper rain

[upper rain]

heya

ur pink now

[fresh timber]

Wow Unc

[opaque sedge]

F no hall effect sticks

In big 2025 on top

[fresh timber]

What’s the difference between Xbox and non xbox

[nocturne flicker]

Nothing

[dense locust]

ROG Xbox ally is a weird name

[nocturne flicker]

Everything is an xbox

[fresh timber]

I see different chip

The ryzen ai

[dense locust]

If it’s anything They probably add some stupid Xbox ui

[fresh timber]

Atleast Microsoft is assisting so the experience isn’t trash

[nocturne flicker]

Everything is Xbox. If nothing is not an Xbox there can be no difference between Xbox and nonXbox

I am an Xbox

My sock is an Xbox

My Playstation is a-wait

Playstation is Xbox

[dense locust]

Sounds to me like Xbox won

[fresh timber]

Your 5080 is a Xbox

[mental yoke]

nice hope u feel better too

[misty sparrow]

If you think that’s bad, Switch 2 joycons somehow got drift already

I think

$95 controllers (for a pair) by the way

[icy ore]

Newegg is Xbox

[opaque sedge]

They still used the cheap ass potentiometers from the original switch apparently

[rough zinc]

Hall effect kinda impossible because the joycons now connect via magnets

[opaque sedge]

They totally did that to make after market joycon options more tough

[fresh timber]

So when a 3rd party does it. What excuse

[north crescent]

Afaik you just calibrate sensors with extra magnetic field in mind

[fresh timber]

The switch 2 joycons have drift already

[worn wave]

Yeah I saw a teardown and the joystick modules are basically the same as the switch 1

[fresh timber]

Switch 2 is really sad

Like really sad

[ancient swift]

Asus won't use em because they mess with their hall effect triggers. It's silly.

Only MSI, Zotac, and Lenovo did hall effects for the 5 mainstream PC handhelds.

Then none of the 3 big consoles.

[fresh timber]

Ima keep it a buck, you don’t need Hall effect

[opaque sedge]

Sounds stupid most third party controllers use magnetic sticks and trigger at the same tome

[worn wave]

To stop stick drift yeah you do

[fresh timber]

My ps5 controller is a year old no drive

[worn wave]

Tbf I think handhelds are more compact so that could be part of the issue

[fresh timber]

And how fast does that happen if your not Nintendo

[opaque sedge]

Against u may be the exception not the rule

[fresh timber]

Yeah it’s taking care of it

When it dies replace the stick easy

[worn wave]

A year old also isn't that old for a controller

[fresh timber]

My launch ps4 controller doesn’t drift lolllll

[opaque sedge]

Pretty sure the lenovo legion go s has both hall sticks and triggers

[fresh timber]

Sony cooked

Only console controller Iv ever had multiply of fail.. are my switch joycons

[opaque sedge]

Even the first legion go did apparently

[worn wave]

Hmm

[fresh timber]

Can confirm as a old legion go owner

Is the z2 e good now

[worn wave]

I mean yeah not trying to defend the joycons cause they suck

[fresh timber]

I returned my handheld cause bad performance

[ancient swift]

There are a few 3rd party manufacturers that use hall effect.

razer, 8bitdo, gamesir, guilikit(they make the sensors), and steel series. I know do. Not sure on others. Scuf said they'd start now

[fresh timber]

Nintendo is the only company who NEEDS Hall effect

[ancient swift]

But MSI, lenovo, and Zotac have both in their handhelds

[fresh timber]

If your failing within a week your cooked

Iv had joycons fail within 6 months it’s crazy

[opaque sedge]

Not even out yet but hopefully they fine tune it like the steam decks apu was cuz the hx370 with the same 890m isnt a significant performance bump over the steam deck at the same 15w tdp

[ancient swift]

I think it's due to how close they were or just manufacturer decisions. Both the ROG Ally and Steam Deck have 3rd party sticks you can buy and install.

Switch as well

[north crescent]

Eh, they just need to use 3 cent potentiometers instead of 1 cent ones

[fresh timber]

IRRC theirs other z2 extreme devices out. Or 890m out

[worn wave]

And yet you (and other switch owners) just keep buying more that's what let's Nintendo keep getting away with it

[fresh timber]

?? I just stopped buying Nintendo stuff

I was in 5th grade when it released or 4th

Holy I’m old

[worn wave]

You sound like you bought a lot of switch 1 joycons though

[fresh timber]

I only have 4

[worn wave]

That's good tho

[opaque sedge]

Yeah the hx370 has the same 890m igpu the z2 extreme will have

[ancient swift]

And no, Nintendo won't brick your switch 2 for adding hall effect sticks. That whole thing about modifying is referring to software. As in removing drm and stuff for piracy. Steam has the same clause with the same language lol

[fresh timber]

Ryzen Ai something has it too

[fresh timber]

See.. steam can’t brick my entire pc tho

[ancient swift]

They can ban and block you from steam and then continue to ban you if they catch you dodging said ban.

[fresh timber]

Steam doesn’t control it like Nintendo does

[fresh timber]

Yeah that’s fair

[ancient swift]

Revoking your access to any purchase you made on steam.

[fresh timber]

Most Nintendo should be allowed to do is block online use

Then again I think banning consoles is seriously stupid cause resale

I’ll sell Timmy my banned console and run away 😚😚

[ancient swift]

Where the Xbox and PS5 let you use physical media(but not let you update) after a device ban, valve will revoke all your game licenses. So you actually lose everything since physical media is dead on PC.

[fresh timber]

Hell doesn't Xbox and Sony ban

[opaque sedge]

Yeah the hx370 is the ryzen ai

[fresh timber]

Oh

lol

[opaque sedge]

Its a mobile chip

Its on laptops and premium handhelds atm

[fresh timber]

I’m going for a Intel laptop

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-zenbook-14-14-fhd-oled-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-ultra-9-32gb-ram-1tb-ssd-jasper-gray/6615729.p?skuId=6615729

[ancient swift]

Nintendo says they can brick it manually, but I really doubt that's the case. It's likely a scare tactic to dissuade pirates. But they won't be dissuaded. Someone's already jailbreaking their switch 2.

[fresh timber]

Ultra

[fresh timber]

They have enough to just buy another

lol

If they jailbreak the switch I’m going to do it

I just can’t use a handheld I can’t fully control

The switch was fun.. when I was 12

[mental yoke]

eh it refers to whatever they want it to refer too and companies can freely pick and choose

[mental yoke]

last year

[fresh timber]

Holy that’s almost 7 years ago

[mental yoke]

ngl ive never heard so much discussion on banned consoles as here. like who tf even does this and why

[fresh timber]

All the company’s will do it

If you do something so dumb it warrants it, like cheating

[mental yoke]

no i mean good ban people for bupassing stuff

but its likebi always see it discussed here

and its not that big of a deal

[craggy shoal]

Yeahmanitgetsprettyhotinmyroomidkwhythoughimeanit'skindainsaneyaknow?

(When you realize)

[mental yoke]

when i was mining on 4 computers my house was hot asf

[craggy shoal]

It's sitting on my exhaust

[dusk knot]

What fan is that?

[mental yoke]

oh thats not even hot or what i noticed at all lol

[fresh timber]

Hi motor

[dusk knot]

Motor

[mental yoke]

fan?

[craggy shoal]

Some AsiaHorse Uniconnect fans

[fresh timber]

I love these fans

They look so nice

[dusk knot]

Hmm

Yes

[fresh timber]

Guess how much they cost

[mental yoke]

oh with the infinity mirror?

[craggy shoal]

They’re actually really nice. Just a little loud but you forget them when you have headphones on. They’re like half the price of the Lian Li Unifans

[mental yoke]

infinity mirror fan sound kinda hot

[dusk knot]

Hot in what way

[mental yoke]

:fingerguns:

[dusk knot]

Emote fail

[fresh timber]

Uni can

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cowboy-finger-gun-pointing-moves-gif-17170914

[dusk knot]

That GPU doesn't look straight

[mental yoke]

just the angle

[fresh timber]

Want newer ohoro

Photo

[dusk knot]

Yeb

[mental yoke]

all gpus sag some

[dusk knot]

It looks extreme in that photo lol

[craggy shoal]

Yes

[fresh timber]

@dusk knot

I wish Xfx made the logo rgb

[sinful blade]

Don’t you hate it when you just

[craggy shoal]

Yeah

Man I hate barbecue

[icy ore]

Dang really?

What kind?

[fresh timber]

i want a mini led or oled

reeeee

[icy ore]

I think pulled pork sandwiches are one of my favorites ever

Granted we grew up owning a bbq restaurant

[north crescent]

Dont you hate it
https://tenor.com/view/it-discord-reaction-pennywise-gif-26348500

[mental yoke]

ti

[dusk knot]

Now get some custom cables

[fresh timber]

u know this isnt my main rig right

[dusk knot]

Yes

[dusk knot]

Get custom cables

[fresh timber]

no

this pc is semi modular too id need to fit extentions when i dont even have room to tuck the pcie cables away

[dusk knot]

@hoary zodiac B5 is getting better....

[fresh timber]

jp ru not concerned about the 650w psu

@dusk knot oh yeah my gpu is sagging i forgot to screww it in

[ancient swift]

https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_skyblivion I can't waiiiittt

We got Oblivion Remaster this year and we'll get Skyblivion this year. I love Oblivion lol.

[dusk knot]

Specs?

Of PC?

[mental yoke]

i want morrowind gdi

[fresh timber]

5500 9070xt

iim currently resisitng a 3900x

[hoary zodiac]

Ooooo

[ancient swift]

Skywind has a lot more work to modernize it. they're doing full voice acting but I'd expect it next year or 2027 depending on how many volunteers from the Skyblivion team move over there

[velvet summit]

who needs a disc harrow when you have a trailer https://youtube.com/shorts/KPmclrmpNec

[fresh timber]

chat

is 4060 to a 3080 worth

[sinful blade]

Ye

[fresh timber]

pog

[fresh timber]

he upgrading to something, 9060xt prices arnt looking promsiing so he might go used 3080

its just 10gb vram.. who knows how long it turns to 8

[nocturne flicker]

Don't you just hate

😐

[fresh timber]

i wanna sell my ps5 so adly

but i just know ima hate my self when gta6 drops and i dont have a ps5

[misty sparrow]

I looked at the PS store and saw how bad the prices of games were even on sale

like Dead Space 2023 for example, its lowest sale price on PS was higher than Steam lowest sale price

[fresh timber]

thats why i only want gta6

if gta6 doesnt have cross progression ima be so mad

[tranquil pebble]

When Persona 4 Revival releases I have a feeling that Metacritic's top 10 JRPGs is getting yet another Atlus game in it

[lone mango]

Idk if it will have it

I would just wait for the pc port

[misty sparrow]

cool and all we're getting great games being brought back into the spotlight but seems like we're getting too many remakes/remasters lately

that's a huge portion of what the past five years have been

[tranquil pebble]

We did get Metaphor though

[misty sparrow]

oh right forgot it existed

i dont play JRPGs

[tranquil pebble]

SMT V releasing on PC was also amazing

[ancient swift]

and Expeditions 33 and Sea of Stars are both "JRPG's" despite being made by French studios

[nocturne flicker]

FRPG doesn't sound as good

[tranquil pebble]

Well, JRPGs just need to meet certain characteristics

[ancient swift]

^

I was just adding them that in the last 2 years we got 3 amazing JRPG's that are new

[tranquil pebble]

Genre originating in Japan does not mean games in it are required to

[misty sparrow]

The Flee or Surrender option in those games is just a white flag

[tranquil pebble]

late 2010s started a massive JRPG revival seems like

[ancient swift]

and all 3 are so different from each other they all got somethin to offer

[tranquil pebble]

ports to PC also started getting better finally

oh and the Yakuza games

[fresh timber]

how do i get overlay like this

i want

[sinful blade]

Msi software I think

[sinful blade]

French Rpg

[fresh timber]

its a aftreburner overlay? damn

welp im getting afterburner then

[mental yoke]

ds 3 > ds2 —————- > ds 1

[misty sparrow]

what

[tranquil pebble]

Fumo RPG

[mental yoke]

ds1 worst ds

[fresh timber]

mf tried isntalling a virus

[lone mango]

[misty sparrow]

never played much of dead space, wouldnt know

[tranquil pebble]

I prefer my space to be alive

[lone mango]

My brother played it a long long time ago on the 360

I do remember some nutty moments

[mental yoke]

wanna see this lil cutie hiding under my desk

[nocturne flicker]

Frop Gah

[mental yoke]

i wanted to add little kawaii blushes but im too lazy

[icy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/too-late-never-gif-15850038

[nocturne flicker]

I dunno seem a bit late to me. 'S nearly 9pm

[royal crow]

8p here

[mental yoke]

moon time dont care bout ur earf time

[fresh timber]

is this cancer

ok this is better

ima organize this

[queen lagoon]

meow

[rancid juniper]

this tweet LOL

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/Jfr8fmF8oJU?si=WV3zbIw2wTpF_JZz

[opaque sedge]

Welp

https://youtu.be/6E_c_nPGarY?si=0sp5qVEf3Tf1vxsL

It’s happening

Damn you nintendo

[misty sparrow]

Outer Worlds 2 does NOT deserve $80 💀

[rancid juniper]

yall can buy expensive games honestly at this point idc, ill find deals anyways

[misty sparrow]

oh and another thing

whats the point of buying it for $80 when it goes to game pass day one

[rancid juniper]

microsoft/xbox taking notes on users who actually has a large wallet or those who are too far gone in consumerism

thats probably it

[opaque sedge]

Testing the waters i assume

Or to push more people into gamepass make them dependent on it and up the subscription prices

Like streaming services

[misty sparrow]

so heres the thing

lets say you buy two $80, or one $80 game and one $70 game (if no sales)

still higher priced than what PC game pass gives you for 12mo. this is why i always wait for sales

[opaque sedge]

Then its likely to upsell gamepass

Interesting the z2 extreme is now called z2 ai extreme

Looks like its different than the z2e and has an npu

Perhaps fsr 4 support?

[misty sparrow]

cool device to put SteamOS on

[opaque sedge]

Lol the lower end one is basically steam deck specs tho

Well oled specs to be specific minus the oled screen

[misty sparrow]

wonder how much it would cost

[opaque sedge]

If they dont price it competitively its not gonna sell especially cuz of the switch 2

[misty sparrow]

yeah if it's somehow higher priced than steam deck oled, at least for the cheaper model, it isnt gonna sell

[opaque sedge]

Yh dunno abt the premium one but the lower end white version is basically using outdated hardware (2019 tech) and if it wants to sell its gotta be lower than 4 hundies

[misty sparrow]

wonder what switch 2 is using

[upper rain]

i got the miku buds

[craggy shoal]

man wtf

[opaque sedge]

Imagine the next steam deck uses arm

Or handheld pcs start using arm

[craggy shoal]

8-core CPU in that little thing is actually kinda crazy

[misty sparrow]

so I guess maybe on par or slightly surpassing Steam Deck?

[opaque sedge]

Prolly similar power, but games are made for it with hardware specific optimization, no translation layers and stuff so it will do better than the steam deck if obv games optimization is done

[misty sparrow]

well, let's hope optimization is done

[opaque sedge]

I mean if they wanna sell them games they gotta pump out updated versions

They got no choice now

[misty sparrow]

probably gonna put a paywall behind the upgrade too

[opaque sedge]

Alr have

[misty sparrow]

other than the zelda games?

[opaque sedge]

Zelda games are the only ones so far with updated graphics i believe

[misty sparrow]

cant believe they're reselling the BOTW for full price and not even the DLC is included

$10 on top of that

[craggy shoal]

I want salary with no job

[opaque sedge]

Looks like there are some with free updates but they dont seem to have specified if they are running at lets say 60 frames over the old 30 or a significant graphics bump

https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/transfer-guide/games-with-free-updates/

[misty sparrow]

make your GF the breadwinner

[opaque sedge]

Motor either said that in response to u criticizing the upgrade fee for botw or he just spontaneously said that

@craggy shoal which one was it

[frigid stag]

Spending 80 bucks on this game and maybe they’ll add it later XD

[misty sparrow]

and it will never drop in price

[frigid stag]

It probably will at some point

I still don’t get why people think 70 to 80 is new for triple a games. I remember seeing similar prices for console games in like 2018

Maybe they’re used to steam prices

[misty sparrow]

nah $70 really became the norm in 2020

before that $60 was the standard for years

so everybody was thinking we wouldn't get a price jump in quite a while, but then five years later we get another jump

[frigid stag]

I saw it in stores but it was console games on cd’s

[icy ore]

I don’t know if I’ll ever catch myself paying full price of $70+ for a game again tbh

I’ll just wait til it’s on sale if I have to

[misty sparrow]

Nintendo games never really do

[icy ore]

That’s the truth

[frigid stag]

People defending this are cringe. They can’t even play at that difficulty that’s why they say that

[icy ore]

Fortunately I will only mooch off of my buddies with their switch 2 and games

[frigid stag]

They deserve to get scammed

It’s just mental gymnastics

[rancid juniper]

if it was added in the previous game why not in the latest installment?

why go one step forward and another back?

make it make sense

[frigid stag]

For 80$ it better have it

[rancid juniper]

fr man

[frigid stag]

They probably can’t play at that difficulty so they don’t mind

50cc is ok for them

[sinful blade]

I don’t buy full priced games unless it’s destiny

[rancid juniper]

look its their enjoyment at the end of the day but i find it goofy that they blatantly don't care

[nocturne flicker]

I don't buy games

-# Except when I do

I haven't bought a game in a year or two tbh

[fresh timber]

@rancid juniper

look

5.6ghz

wanna know whats funny. my 9070xt is the only gpu that wil have its drivers crash with a CPU oc

[proud jackal]

i have no energy to buy games but i have all the equipment

[misty sparrow]

I thought I debloated windows, why the hell am I getting ads in the start menu again

[fresh timber]

i got m cpu to run 4.6ghz stable

[rancid juniper]

lol pretty big OC for a ryzen 5 tho

[fresh timber]

if its stable why would i care

[rancid juniper]

those temps, you gotta keep in check and get it running all core no drops

[rancid juniper]

well... There's another way 😏

[fresh timber]

i dont think it can go below 4.6

[upper rain]

200cc is fun specifically because it feels so half baked. the tracks are NOT made with 200cc in mind. makes it fun to play bc of it

[opaque sedge]

Guys do u think this is an issue worth going thru an rma for?

[proud jackal]

im not doing drugs

[fresh timber]

the most PBO got me to was 4.45ghz but not at all core

[opaque sedge]

The left trackpad haptics are annoyingly loud

[rancid juniper]

300cc would be chaotic but funny af

[upper rain]

drugs will do you

[upper rain]

300cc mirror

[fresh timber]

i saw people get 4.6ghz on pbo and i wanna know how

[upper rain]

they're simply better

[rancid juniper]

why is that your first thought?

[proud jackal]

[pliant berry]

trackpad isn't working?

[upper rain]

probably the drugs

[fresh timber]

its stable enough, i got prime 95 to run for 10mins

[rancid juniper]

I wouldn't get it? BOI

😡

[fresh timber]

i wonder if i can get my ram to run faster

[upper rain]

not get prime 10 to run for 95 minutes, then we talk

[misty sparrow]

I can't wait for people to hack the Switch 2 so I can drive around as Spongebob in the DaBaby car in Mario Kart World

[slate ice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hn7f9C

[opaque sedge]

Notice the loudness on the left one thats whats wrong the one on the right is silent and feels pleasant the one on the left is not

[fresh timber]

4500mt/s to run stable

[slate ice]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hn7f9C

will this gpu fit in this case?

[rancid juniper]

@proud jackal make sure to chase world records on mario kart lol

[pliant berry]

oh I had sound muted lol

[proud jackal]

no ive seen videos of people speed running

they crazy

[rancid juniper]

literally not less than 5 days and people already doing crazy strats

[proud jackal]

RAIL GRIND INTO A WALLRUN INTO ANOTHER RAIL GRIND INTO