general-chat

[misty sparrow]

no

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/132349439506382848/1355326462806458552/ezgif-8876af825e03c52.gif

[proud jackal]

[pliant berry]

https://i.imgur.com/WTloO5Y.png

welp ima go get some coffee

[slate fractal]

chat is this a good deal

i gave a dude a windows 10 usb and he gave me his old 1660 super

i tested it and it works

[rigid sinew]

i was today years old when i found out wolfgangs name is actually wolfgang

[somber chasm]

Could someone redirect me to the correct help channel? All these channels listed here is just looking like a wall of text in my brain

[random osprey]

what kind of help do you need?

[somber chasm]

Just general questions

[random osprey]

then here is fine however most people arent active rn so itll probably be a minute for a response. if the general questions are more related to a build, then build chat can also help

[somber chasm]

actually I probably should double check, cause a "friend of friend" told me the discord might help but tbh I don't really see how a discord can help on questions related to the Flash Sale that just supposedly ended.

So to be clear, can I ask questions about that here? I know its a dumb question because the answer is most likely no, but man something just aint making sense here.

[slate fractal]

am i just being ghosted by the entire server

[somber chasm]

yes random person

you are

: P

[random osprey]

some people might know, if not, Nahtuhlay can answer or at least try and get an answer from people at wegg

[dusk knot]

Great deal!

[somber chasm]

so it wouldn't hurt to just leave the question here basically, even if I dont get an answer.

[slate fractal]

okay mr no role

[somber chasm]

touche

[random osprey]

ye, but as i said, server is not too active at this time so you may or may not get an answer and will probably have to ask later today when more people are online

[north crescent]

You got a 1660S at the cost of a USB stick, like $5. Or like $15 if you dont like pirating and just use grey market Windows keys

[slate fractal]

im just playing

[somber chasm]

Well I'll just be brief and leave it here lol. So an hour ago as of now I built a custom pc on the flash sale. I disappear for 30m and its gone, apparently its until funds last.

But here's what doesn't make sense, there are two statements from over several hours ago that claims it ended then, well how could it have ended then but when I used it an hour ago (which is several hours after they said it ended) it was still up? And only just recently ended?

I know its reddit posts, which isn't reliable so it must be taken with a huge grain of salt, but this doesn't make sense to me. https://www.reddit.com/r/Newegg/comments/1ktf1aj/pc_flash_builder_sale/

Am I just dumb or somethin?

[slate fractal]

oh wait that actually makes sense

[somber chasm]

Actually wait there's a new comment on it, so three statements, one claiming the same thing I am .-.

are we all just dum or somethin?

[slate fractal]

dumb?

nirvana reference

[somber chasm]

huh?

[dense locust]

Is this a threat?

[nocturne flicker]

Send a message in #general-chat now or else Wegg stock goes down

[royal crow]

wegg stock: * still goes down *

isd newegg publically traded?

[nocturne flicker]

Yes

[misty sparrow]

Yes

[nocturne flicker]

They just had to do a 20 to 1 reverse split because they had been trading well below $1 for well over a year on the NASDAQ

[mental yoke]

dogclub > wolfgang

also catclique > dogclub

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/jhrHL6s0NZs?si=GYHFqqtpHZoYhXCv

Pumpless AIO

[mental yoke]

trusting individuals to correctly orient things is a tall order

[tranquil pebble]

love how it feels like dGPUs aren't being made anymore

[dusk knot]

Y

[lone mango]

Yeah

[lone mango]

Tsmc is completely booked so they raised their quotations which makes the big 3 make more ai chips to get the most they can out of their allocations

Ya dig

[fresh timber]

What if they make more fans

[lone mango]

Maybe

[fresh timber]

Hear me out

American fabs

[elfin mural]

more fabs doesn't necessarily mean tsmc will lower prices

they have no reason to lower it

[nocturne flicker]

Plus the American fabs will not have the latest tech

And they will be more expensive by default

[balmy lily]

i assure you we will be late af

what are you talking about

[fresh timber]

Why can’t we

[nocturne flicker]

Taiwan said no

[fresh timber]

Idc if it’s more expensive, bring us more jobs

[nocturne flicker]

TSMC is regulated by Taiwan

[balmy lily]

also probably because they're building a facility to produce not to R&D

[fresh timber]

Damn imagine your company being controlled by the government

Tough

[balmy lily]

it'd almost be like being ... a company

[worn night]

wow

[nocturne flicker]

A few well paying jobs in the middle of nowhere Arizona

For a production that requires a lot of water

In the desert

[elfin mural]

fabs don't require that many employees

[nocturne flicker]

In a portion of the country in a drought

[elfin mural]

so it's only gonna create a few jobs

[balmy lily]

i mean, won't they just h1b experienced workers, at least to start?

[nocturne flicker]

Absolutely

[balmy lily]

that's the businessey thing to do

[proud jackal]

[nocturne flicker]

Fabs have few employees, most will be foreign hires because we don't have experienced workers for that, it is in a part of the country that has little water and will continue to do so for decades despite needing a lot of water

[sinful blade]

Basically, this whole thing is pointless

[frigid stag]

So why are there not enough experienced workers

[balmy lily]

because when a company sets up facilities in a new country they have to train people

[fresh timber]

Why worry about water later

[nocturne flicker]

The experienced workers are currently working at already present plants. We don't have an excess of fab workers because we don't have a major industry for that

And our education system is about to be shot to pieces

[frigid stag]

It already was years ago tbh

[nocturne flicker]

Imagine a diseased animal that needs to be medicated and helped to get better and you choose to shoot it and not replace it

[balmy lily]

it's fall down the staircase has picked up velocity and is currently reaching the double stairs at the bottom

[frigid stag]

I mean clearly if you’ve spent so much money and it’s not working, then there’s something else happening

[lone mango]

Unironically true

[nocturne flicker]

You spent a ton of money buying it food instead of medicine so you say screw it and shoot the thing because what you were doing didn't work

[lone mango]

River can dry up by the time it gets there

[frigid stag]

Strange how before it was a thing education stats were better

Obv something else is to blame

[lone mango]

America for the past like 30 years or something lol

At least 20

[nocturne flicker]

Been like that since the 80s

Jimmy called us out on our BS and the media said nuhuh and the public ran with it

[frigid stag]

Yep guess when the board was made

Late 80s

[dusk knot]

Oooooh

[misty sparrow]

goddammit politics again

[dusk knot]

This ai race is crazy

[lone mango]

Back in the 50s schools would kinda compete with each other to have better standards

Now they just do what is set by gov

[lone mango]

Yeah

[frigid stag]

the standards were probably different

[dusk knot]

I don't think the AI "bubble" is ever going to pop tbh

This is the craziest technology since the internet

[frigid stag]

If you talk to anyone who’s not a zoomer they talk way more articulately too usually

[nocturne flicker]

Me when I use big words that confuse older people despite me being a zoomer 🤨

[frigid stag]

Yes your writing is fire

[nocturne flicker]

I talk circles around the one boss I interact with because she doesn't understand half of what I am saying due to complexity. And she is a boomer

[frigid stag]

it’s kind of a generalisation but there is a type of people who you can tell use tiktok a lot and are constantly online with low attention span, those are the ones I’m talking about

[slate fractal]

kitty

[pliant berry]

The fear of a bubble popping is really just because of how much overspending is going on in that sector, its like an arms race. The money spent on r&d and general upkeep is vastly more than what is being made

[nocturne flicker]

Okay. And then there are older folks who don't understand complex language because their education was just as bad if not worse than ours

[frigid stag]

🤔

[pliant berry]

Of course some are attempting to go the typical route of using it for ad tracking data, potentially tapping into google monopoly on digital fingerprinting

[nocturne flicker]

There were good schools and bad schools before our generation too. Some purposefully got less funding due to issues, schools in poor areas that couldn't afford funding via local taxes and etc

Garbage education isn't a new thing

[slate fractal]

windows 11

[nocturne flicker]

We just didn't rely as much on an education in the 50s and 60s as we do now

[pliant berry]

Mmmm

[frigid stag]

I don’t think it’s that, the math proficiency levels and things like that have gone down

[nocturne flicker]

Jim Bob without a High School diploma can't go work at the local steelmill anymore

[frigid stag]

Not from the 50s but from like 30, maybe 40 years

And you see more and more people getting higher education, not because more people are smarter

But because it’s different standards now. They’re lower

[nocturne flicker]

Standards have absolutely declined, but so have the employment opportunities. There is less room for poorer education because jobs that allow for someone with a poor education to work and live decently have evaporated

[frigid stag]

Hmm

[nocturne flicker]

Again, the steelmill isn't around anymore

[frigid stag]

I mean there’s jobs that are pretty low skilled but require a degree 😂

Trust bro you need a master degree for this email job

[fresh timber]

You need a degree to make minimal wage

[nocturne flicker]

Nah, you need a degree to make $5 more than minimum

[pliant berry]

The standards are lower, for the sake of pushing everyone through the system. A lot of people over here moved to private schools because the education in the public system has gotten awful. Being one of those kids I will say at least for me it wasn’t necessarily because of curriculum or teacher quality but because of the schools having no control over students actions

[fresh timber]

I’ll be happy with $20 a hour

[frigid stag]

Bingo^^

Most people pass so it looks ok

[fresh timber]

The public education system isn’t bad, they let me do what ever I wanted and let me manipulate it to the point I was playing video games in class and still passing

This entire school year I did nothing

[pliant berry]

But I will also say kids coming out of college just expect to get paid too much and that’s part of the reason they can’t find a job here. I know a few hiring managers that say they get applications from people that just graduated and no work experience expecting a minimum salary of 80k

[frigid stag]

Covid was an anomaly to be fair

[fresh timber]

Buy

Their was no Covid this year

[frigid stag]

Oh

[fresh timber]

I did more work during Covid lmfao

[frigid stag]

I thought you meant 2020 or 2021

[fresh timber]

No

This year 2025

[frigid stag]

[nocturne flicker]

A large portion of why private education looks better is because they select their students. If private schools had the trouble students public ones did they'd be just as bad. But getting rid of trouble students would require parents actually parenting well

[fresh timber]

What’s interesting is my school isn’t a bad school

My school really teaches

[pliant berry]

Bingo

[fresh timber]

Then I look at the other schools and they such

[frigid stag]

So it’s a parent issue at the end of the day

For them not teaching their kids to behave

[nocturne flicker]

A parent and society issue

[frigid stag]

I wouldnt say society cause they’re living in the same one, and usually if you look at the parents you go “ohhh” it explains it all

[nocturne flicker]

Work life balances being better would allow parents more time for parenting, teaching people how to parent means hopefully some of them do better, inexpensive childcare would help plug the gaps

[lone mango]

Tablet kid

[pliant berry]

I hated public hs so much because some classes half the kids were running around doing whatever the hell they wanted. They would get suspended literally every week and by the end of the year the teacher wasn’t able to teach anything due to disruptions

[lone mango]

High school stuff

[frigid stag]

Ngl the people I’ve seen growing up who were badly behaved, their parents weren’t overworked, kind of the opposite, one of the 2 or both were kind of lousy and didn’t seem to care

[pliant berry]

Well there any many varying cases

[frigid stag]

And they would just not pay attention to what their kids were doing or just ignore

Or they act the same way as the kids do

[lone mango]

When you get hungry while lifting

[nocturne flicker]

The people I've known growing up had a variety of bad parenting resulting in their behavior. Some of them had immature parents, some had parents who didn't know what they were doing, some of them had neglectful parents, it is a wide range of issues

[fresh timber]

That’s just parenting issue

The school shouldn’t parent you

[pliant berry]

Yeah, it’s sad really.

[frigid stag]

Oh ye at one point there were fights every other day in hs when I was like 14

[fresh timber]

That’s parents being bad

[frigid stag]

It was funny to watch at least

[pliant berry]

You are right but I at very least don’t want these people ruining my class causing me to fail as well

[nocturne flicker]

My school was one of the ones that worked hard to get over the malaise of the 90s and early 00s

[frigid stag]

Hs when bullying 🥱
Hs when someone dyes their hair 😠

[fresh timber]

I was in a class full of clowns just ignore them

[dusk knot]

I thirst for orange juice

[pliant berry]

And I did, but my point is the class was useless because of that. The teacher only passed some of us out of pity but that puts you in a bad spot for the future

[nocturne flicker]

Used to have fights on a daily basis, a couple instances of people bringing in knives, over the span of 10 or so years they got a lot of state investment that allowed them to overhaul the school and stop most of the fighting and incidents

[frigid stag]

Knives Is crazy

[fresh timber]

Yall schools sound bad

[nocturne flicker]

Of course there were trouble students, but they had people hired specifically to work with them and prevent the worst issues

[fresh timber]

Mines kicks people out for stuff like that

[frigid stag]

Mine wasn’t that bad just had occasional fights for a while

[fresh timber]

So they did something to solve the problem.

[fresh timber]

Same, any bad kids just get sent to the office

The amount of times I went to the deans as a fresh after Covid child

[pliant berry]

Yeah public schools here have little power for any of that. And if they do it anyway they risk getting fired

[frigid stag]

Ironically the grades after us were more weak, they didn’t cause as many fights

[fresh timber]

Little power for what

[pliant berry]

Any kind of discipline, even sending them out or raising their voice slightly

[nocturne flicker]

Usually the trouble students ended up in specific classes. People who had continuous issues had direct contact with the staff who dealt with discipline and counselors to help them work through their issues

[fresh timber]

My school actively slightly raised their voice and sent them out

If you was bad kid they sent you to a diffrent school

[pliant berry]

This is just the joys of new york

[fresh timber]

If your annoying and loud and what ever in class you got a talk with the deans and a phone call home

[nocturne flicker]

I am from NY

[fresh timber]

I’m from IL

[frigid stag]

https://x.com/byMidoriGroup/status/1925715561360617540
How do people use this

MIDORI (@byMidoriGroup)

This changes everything.

X · May 23, 2025, 12:49 AM

It’s tiny

[fresh timber]

They don’t

They buy it for show

[nocturne flicker]

Rural upstate NY where there is no economy and everybody is poor

[pliant berry]

Is that a mouse?

[frigid stag]

Yep

It’s for fingertip grip

[pliant berry]

Oh that’s fun, but it is nice a peaceful there

[lone mango]

Perfect

I am a fingertipper

[frigid stag]

I’ve seen people use them, they’re tiny mice

[lone mango]

But I bet thats gonna cost 200

[fresh timber]

Chat I’m hungry

[frigid stag]

Gwolves makes some

[fresh timber]

What I’m dashing today

[nocturne flicker]

Except for the teachers and the cops and probation officers

[frigid stag]

Maybe my hands are just too big for them

[lone mango]

You know zero mouse?

[frigid stag]

Nope

[fresh timber]

My schiol has two cops

[lone mango]

Optimum’s mouse design

[fresh timber]

They cook

[frigid stag]

Oh

Is that like m3k

[lone mango]

Have you seen that super hollow mouse he uses

Its basically a frame

[nocturne flicker]

Not if you are black, Jewish or from downstate

[lone mango]

A frame with a battery and board in it

[frigid stag]

Bruh 💀

[lone mango]

Yeah

[pliant berry]

3d print your own mouse

[lone mango]

But it is super light

[fresh timber]

3d print your own achok

[pliant berry]

Makes sense

[lone mango]

Like 19g or something

[frigid stag]

Mouse for shizos 😭

Who think they’ll reach radiant from bronze

[nocturne flicker]

I come from a half Jewish home too

[frigid stag]

How would they know if someone’s jewish 🤔

It’s just a religion no?

[pliant berry]

Most of the places in upstate ny I visited though are very empty. Only 1 or 2 houses visible to the eye

[nocturne flicker]

They don't. But the more opinionated kids like to spray paint funni windmills on buildings and blame us for everything if you understand

[frigid stag]

Ah

[nocturne flicker]

Rural areas are heavily dispersed on housing. You can end up going a mile or two and see one or two houses. There are some towns that have centers and suburban areas, but a lot of it is just empty

[frigid stag]

This must be so uncomfortable to hold

[dusk knot]

@rancid juniper we're cooking down here 🥵🔥

Feels like 100 degrees

[nocturne flicker]

Plattsburgh has a downtown area and a suburban housing section built in grids, everything else around it is largely organically setup

[rancid juniper]

fr

really bad

[upper rain]

mmmm, insulation

[wicked oriole]

i just got the most dank deal on a xg27acdng, was 480 w tax open box at microcenter ❤️

[dusk knot]

I really wish my car's AC was working now 😂

[rancid juniper]

overheated so much its blowing room temp

[lone mango]

Lil dude

[dusk knot]

Above room temp

[lone mango]

[frigid stag]

Fr

[upper rain]

liquid metal is so cool

[lone mango]

Not a fan of the copper interaction

But if nickel plated then I approve

[upper rain]

it's nickel thankfully

it won't damage copper but it's a pain to scrape away the grime. but nickel so we ball

i'm hoping this will pull down my hotspots some

[icy ore]

[lone mango]

Oh is that the 9070

[upper rain]

yeah

[lone mango]

You know what my first thought was when I saw the die on the marketing image from amd? Like the picture on the slide when it was announced

[upper rain]

what?

[lone mango]

I was like wow thats long it looks like an intel cpu

[upper rain]

yeah lmao

[lone mango]

[upper rain]

much bigger though haha

aren't intel's GPU dies also really long?

[lone mango]

Yeah

Also looks like their cpu dies

[upper rain]

i wish intel was a little more competent tbh

i highkey fangirl for intel but they suck rn. sad times

[lone mango]

They have quite good innovations despite the quad core era

They have the edge in backside power delivery rn

They actually produced a real chip that has it

Just in small volume but still

And foveros is actually pretty cool. Its just the first implementation is not that good

[dense locust]

Intel wins in some areas

Hopefully the break is what they need

[lone mango]

But they have clawed back at amd recently with all the updates

It took a lot of cope but I think that they are competitive now

There isnt much testing on it though

Just a couple der8auer vids and a couple from graphically challenged

[upper rain]

on their own node or on TSMC?

[lone mango]

Thats a good one

I don’t remember

[nocturne flicker]

Mmm

Probably TSMC

Intel Fabs go screee urrr kaboom

[elfin mural]

core ultra is on tsmc node

[nocturne flicker]

Don't worry, Intel will use Intel silicon. In 20 years

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[worn night]

Maybe my pc will stop crashing now

Other than that apparently the crashes are from dying hardware, most likely my cpu, the oldest thing in my pc besides my case

Plus the sketchy motherboard that cant use the B channel ram slots

Time to get a motherboard/cpu upgrade

[chrome surge]

Yo, my thermal paste came out not as liquidated as I thought it would

It’s kinda stiff, am I screwed?

[elfin mural]

it's fine

[dusk knot]

ive been having it on my PC

#starwarsbattlefront3

[rancid juniper]

i might give it a shot once i clear space

[misty sparrow]

Why the hell is everybody talking about Battlefront 2 recently

[rancid juniper]

andor + may 4th probably

and that BF2 isn't a bad game

[misty sparrow]

true

could never get into it tbh, played for a few mins and quit

[chrome surge]

I deadass can’t screw this phantom spirit in

I’m losing it

[elfin mural]

so the paste is solid enough that it prevents the cooler from being mounted?

[upper rain]

tbh i get the impression that fabs are (technologically) doing better than core design lol

[elfin mural]

yeah that's not normal

[upper rain]

nobody is buying their capacity because the people who might consider it kiiiiinda compete with intel lol

but at least technologically it seems pretty good

close to TSMC in a lot of ways

[chrome surge]

Idk I just can’t align the screws to tighten evenly

[elfin mural]

it's starting to sound like skill issue

[chrome surge]

I tighten one slightly and the other just pops up😭😭

[nocturne flicker]

Nobody buying their capacity and Intel not using Intel Fab because the fab can't out out silicon for Core at high enough yield means it isn't doing good

[upper rain]

intel had already bought their N3 capacity years in advance, Intel fabs could have beaten TSMC and they still would have used it

[lone mango]

Intel 4

Called blue sky creek

[chrome surge]

It was a skill issue

[upper rain]

neat! i hope yields are okay. from what i recall, Intel 4 was really bad a year or so ago, but i think it's had a turn around more recently?

[lone mango]

Idk I don’t think they use it anymore, unless they want to use it for other tiles and 18a for compute perhaps

They probably will

[upper rain]

realistically i don't think Intel should keep using their tile approach as it currently stands

splitting chips across multiple dies comes at a performance cost- you're supposed to use chiplets/tiles to min-max silicon area and performance. not to make 30 different tiles for 4 different products

AMD can produce two i/o dies and two CCDs and sell it in every market. meanwhile Intel has more tile designs on a single consumer CPU than AMD has total

[lone mango]

Well it is like chiplets, they are all just put on one package

[upper rain]

seems like a huge waste imo

[lone mango]

Amd is gonna do something similar

[frigid stag]

Based

[lone mango]

With silicon bridges

[frigid stag]

Monolithic for gaming as always 😎

[upper rain]

AMD is doing it in a workable manner though, they're using a silicon interposer across their same small handful of designs

whereas Intel is using an active (iirc it's active) interposer across like 30 diff tiles lol

the base tile isn't what matters

it's the fact that they are designing and producing more dies for fewer products with worse margins

[lone mango]

Oh you are talking about enterprise

[lone mango]

It could be possible that the older nodes are cheap enough to where it works out well

Arent one of the tiles like 6 or 7 nm on arrow lake

Only one tile is cutting edge and thats the compute tile

And you can make so many of the small tiles on a single wafer and have good yields with the older nodes

[upper rain]

no even consumer

[lone mango]

An interposer is too expensive now, they are most likely using silicon bridges where only a tiny part of the base die is actually active

[upper rain]

5 tiles + an interposer

for arrowlake desktop

meanwhile AMD uses... two

[lone mango]

High yield

[upper rain]

each of these tiles needs to be designed, and afaik aren't used across products really

[lone mango]

Oh yeah see n6 is what it was

[upper rain]

it's not sustainable to design more chips, sell more silicon, and ask for lower prices/margin imo

[lone mango]

Well wouldn’t all of those be shared across all desktop chips

With the only difference being the compute tile

[upper rain]

yeah, for one generation, and only for desktop CPUs

[lone mango]

Yeah so mobile will have to have a different design for them but its probably shared across those too

Idk they probably make it work. Those tiles are super small after all

Even if there are more new designs

[upper rain]

iirc they use notably more silicon vs zen 5

and each of those tiles requires rnd

and it's using more expensive nodes kinda

some of it is cheaper, but the big compute tile is N3, and N5P isn't a ton cheaper than N4P

[nocturne merlin]

hey guys, i got these weird tearing problems for like a year and i even rma'd my gpu thinking my vram was about to die but with a new one it's still the same. weird thing is it doesn't happen on nvidia, only amd.

[upper rain]

i've never seen that before, wtf lol

[nocturne merlin]

i was thinking my motherboard had a weird pcie problem but since switching to nvidia while waiting for rma was perfectly fine im thinking it's a weird amd driver thing or I don't know what

[lone mango]

Didnt n6 come out in like 2021

[lone mango]

Nutty

[upper rain]

earlier sure? because AMD was using it on Navi 33, and by then N5 was already out if i'm not mistaken

[lone mango]

Honestly it could be the browser

[upper rain]

it was just an N7 derivative

[lone mango]

Yeah

[nocturne merlin]

it doesn't tear at all while running games or anything where it matters but it instantly "updates" the screen if i open a new window, press windows, if anything pops up it refreshes it for some time

[nocturne merlin]

it happens in desktop use as well

[lone mango]

They said risk production by 2020 and mass production by 2021

Wait navi 33 came out early 2023

[upper rain]

n5 must have been later than i though

[upper rain]

oh wtf

[lone mango]

This is crazy

[upper rain]

nvm i guess that checks out, n33 was just way later than i thought lol

OH AAIT

n23 i meant

6600

[lone mango]

Wait hold on

[upper rain]

33 was 7600 haha

[lone mango]

So did you do ddu

[upper rain]

code names man

[lone mango]

Intel p core and e core names and mobile, amd server and desktop and mobile

Kill me

[nocturne merlin]

i often get the thing where i even "draw" with squares where i move my cursor of the actual screen that's displayed over the old frozen picture

[nocturne merlin]

yeah ofc and reset windows countless times

[upper rain]

real lol

[nocturne merlin]

it didn't happen on the old mb so I'm not sure what to think cause it's not like it outright doesn't work it's just very niche

[lone mango]

Which driver version

[upper rain]

i'm going insane, my hotspots are insanely worse now with LM vs before... application seems fine. i don't get it lol

i've never seen this before

[lone mango]

Try the one before the one you got rn

[nocturne merlin]

rn i probably have something like 24.10 or an older one since the most recent one instantly crashes with cinebench

idk if that's a red flag too or just amd lol

[lone mango]

Ptm time

Accept it

[lone mango]

How the graphics card crashing cinebench dawg 🙏

[upper rain]

maybe but i'm not admitting defeat yet. edge temps are excellent... but now hotspot it hitting 110c under a pretty normal load- so something must be wrong i just don't understand what/how lol

[lone mango]

How much did you put on the cooler

Maybe you gotta put more

[upper rain]

it clumps up during disassembly, but i spread it evenly when i put it together

[nocturne merlin]

no i mean the gpu errors when running cinebench

and vram tests

[lone mango]

Lidl my beloved

[nocturne merlin]

everything would usually point to a busted gpu but since it's been replaced it's so weird

[lone mango]

Hmm I wonder if maybe you need to take some off and tighten the cooler more? Lm can be weird

[lone mango]

But you said the one before was doing the same thing

Who knows maybe the bios is doing something weird

Is it up to date

[nocturne merlin]

yeah

[upper rain]

i'm a tad worried about PCB warping tbh

it's already rather tight

i just spread it some more, reassembling now

[lone mango]

Was it like the same before you updated the bios

[nocturne merlin]

if you wanna see something even more crazy there is a specific shade of grey that when displayed regardless of the game results in red.

[nocturne merlin]

yes

[lone mango]

I keep going until the screw snugs with like two or three fingers on the screwdriver

Idk maybe you yield to ptm

[lone mango]

This is crazy

What card is this

[nocturne merlin]

first was rx 6600 and after rma I upgraded to 7600

both have the same kinda issues

[lone mango]

Have you had any gpu timeouts recently? If you get another do a bug report

[nocturne merlin]

timeout only when stress testing vram with the most recent driver

should i update and see what the bug report says

[lone mango]

Update what

[nocturne merlin]

the gpu driver

[lone mango]

Oh I thought you updated already

Yeah try it

[upper rain]

i think... i yield

[nocturne merlin]

alr ima report back tomorrow since it's late but this is probably some motherboard/bios/driver wizardry

[upper rain]

i spread it more and now it can't even run Heaven without insta shutting down bc of OTP lol

going insane

[lone mango]

Yeah let us know

[lone mango]

Thats crazy

I think there is a gap between the cooler and die

Because that makes 0 sense

Like maybe lm is just too thin for it

[upper rain]

last try and then i just go back to paste until i get PTM shipped in

[lone mango]

Rdna 2 6nm was for the 6500xt and below and came out 2022

[upper rain]

paste it is...

[upper rain]

6600/xt also

N23 and N24

[rancid juniper]

eh, good enough

[lone mango]

Nah 6600 is 7

[lone mango]

Why does it say 99% passed

Oh this is frame rate stability

[upper rain]

is it really? i could have sworn it was n6

makes it all the more impressive how efficient it is

[lone mango]

Yeah seriously

[rancid juniper]

yep

steel nomad is probably the best quick stress test on 3dmark

anything over 99% imo is considered stable

not 98

[lone mango]

I just now realized what you meant when you said 24.10

Boy what the hell boy

Bro I thought that was an ubuntu version. that driver is old

25.5.1 came out two weeks ago

You are lying to me

[rancid juniper]

iirc 24.12.1 is considered as the most stable driver (well on windows) so far

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

if my 13600k can pull 3w then so can ur ryzen

[lone mango]

Im on 25.3

[rancid juniper]

heh old

😏

[lone mango]

Yeah whatever

[rancid juniper]

lol

[lone mango]

Ill prob update next month

[upper rain]

back on paste and it just works...

[lone mango]

I mean I could rn but I dont use windows very much so idc much

[upper rain]

[lone mango]

Yeah lm is probably too thin then

Man what the hell

[upper rain]

yeah lol, decoders but not encoders

wild

Navi 24 is insane because it was meant to be a low end laptop thing so that $500 cheapo laptops could kinda play games, but they overclocked it like mad and sent it to desktop lol

[lone mango]

We out here using the 3d engine for youtube

[upper rain]

REAL

[lone mango]

one day.. maybe zen 6

https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

[rancid juniper]

hmmm UNDERVOLTS FURTHER

[lone mango]

Zen 5 already runs colder but better iod will make it even cooler

And the silicon bridge will push the dies up which probably means even cooler temps

[lone mango]

Honestly I believe the perf/watt increase amd said because rdna 2 really does not use a lot of power

My 6700 xt uses between 130-145w

[upper rain]

my 6800 would sometimes eat full tdp, but most of the time sat at 175w

[lone mango]

Occasionally when it gets hammered it will go higher but that is the exception

[lone mango]

My 6700 xt will go to 186 by default

[rancid juniper]

rdna 3 however...

[lone mango]

6800 goated

[rancid juniper]

Power hoggers

[lone mango]

Yeah its as if they were like

Ok so we are pretty efficient so now we have some room to pump power

Then rdna 4 is super efficient

[rancid juniper]

had to limit the card from 263w to 238w and it will still jump up to 238w as much as it can

these cards are very hungry

clockspeeds low

wtf

[lone mango]

4090 uses that much in some games

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[lone mango]

Varies from game to game but it really do be using like 250 sometimes fr

Ada was super efficient

And the same thing happened where they were like ok well we have some room to pump power why not

Although blackwell doesnt use much more compared to what came before it

[lone mango]

Amd tried to cope with perf/watt in their rdna 3 reveal if you remember

Lol

[rancid juniper]

yea it was mid

pullin an intel but dgpu

[lone mango]

They knew it was gonna be hungry but didnt want it to shock us as much

But 9070 tho

[rancid juniper]

and the only way to not make em power hungry is to reduce clocks + voltage

which is bad

[lone mango]

9070 is like the 6800 but rdna 4

[upper rain]

it also seems to have been slower than expected

[rancid juniper]

RDNA 4 is what RDNA 3 should've been

actually someone gave me a good reply as to why lemme pull it up

[lone mango]

I think the power increase is related to the new packaging

gcd and mcd

Has not moved at all 🦾

[rancid juniper]

so what Foog is saying

which is wild

[lone mango]

I think they needed more time with it but then it would be total nvidia dominance

So a compromise was made

[rancid juniper]

you don't typically hear a 7800xt hitting 3GHZ in games unless that card is seriously power modded

[lone mango]

Which was to pump more power

[lone mango]

Meanwhile 9060 xt uses 145 to 180w and hits 3.3

[rancid juniper]

insane clocks bruh

makes me jelly ngl

[lone mango]

We are approaching zen 3 clocks

[rancid juniper]

heck even b580 cards are hittin 3GHZ+

RDNA 3 behind fr

[lone mango]

Eh kinda

Gave them good knowledge/experience for chiplets

Lets see what the next gen offers

[rancid juniper]

its kinda funny though how they felt confident with chiplet on gpus and then immediately ditch it

lol

[chrome surge]

I need help chat

[topaz crown]

Hello @chrome surge! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[lone mango]

Rdna 4 is a failed chiplet gen so they glued two 9060 xts together

[chrome surge]

Idk what case fan cord to plug into my mobo, they’re all quite small and idk how it’ll stretch

They’re also all connected

[lone mango]

They went simple this time

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[lone mango]

Thats why the die is so long

Looks like an intel cpu

[rancid juniper]

you know what else is---

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

like daisy chained kind of connected?

[chrome surge]

Yeah

[sinful blade]

Been at this big craft event for an hour and nobody has bought a single one of wife’s things.

[rancid juniper]

you just plug in the 4pin pwm head to the motherboard 4pin fan headers (sometimes named sys_fan1/2/3)

[chrome surge]

Am I meant to unplug the individual fans and then yank them to the bottom

[rancid juniper]

though a picture would be nice

[chrome surge]

Can I dm you

[rancid juniper]

no but if you dont want to do it in #general-chat you can post here #building-and-recc-chat

https://youtu.be/YxE1MHccagA?si=3uNHBI2Q--q1qzAU

[chrome surge]

Yea I don’t wanna disrupt general

[rancid juniper]

ok build chat it is

[lone mango]

Top comment goes hard

[lone mango]

When gamer meld calls you out then you messed up fr

[misty sparrow]

could just give it 12

3060 had 12 in 2020 and that was entry level

[frigid stag]

It wasn’t entry level at all. Those things sold for 700 bucks

[pliant berry]

I don’t think anything with more than 8gb has been entry level yet, cept for used

[misty sparrow]

3060 was intended for entry level if it wasn't scalped

MSRP was like $300

don't know why 3060ti had 8GB though

[frigid stag]

It was originally meant to have 6gb but they made it 12 cause of crypto mining and other things

8gb vram wasn’t ever a question cause games were actually made well

[pliant berry]

The 60 class gpus with higher ram was usually intended for productivity since they usually don’t require so much raw processing anyway

[frigid stag]

Then a few broken games like a year launched and every techtuber lost their minds over that

[misty sparrow]

that makes sense. sounds like it was also good for crypto mining too

unless the extra vram didn't help

[pliant berry]

Yeah except that by that point nvidia had already started their attempts to block mining on their geforce cards. Also mining started to become unprofitable on gpus with changes to ethereum

[misty sparrow]

interesting, thank god for that wouldn't have scored a nice GPU otherwise, even if the market is irreparably bad right now

i guess bitcoin mining became unprofitable too

[pliant berry]

Gpu market has been pretty bad for a long time, it’s just a mixture of problems now

[unborn copper]

wegg

[rancid juniper]

honestly i still see the use in higher amounts of vram on a lower end gpu

crank textures to max, everything else to low and the game doesn't look like clay

[pliant berry]

Lol

[rancid juniper]

so.... IM ALL FOR EXTRA VRAM

8GB IS MID

[lone mango]

This is a cope but 8 gigs is actually fine on linux

Linux manages vram better

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[lone mango]

Also wont get this after a day of uptime

What the hell is that

[rancid juniper]

???

you got anything running?

[lone mango]

Browser

[rancid juniper]

oh

[lone mango]

But that is insignificant

Most of it comes from windows memory leak

[lone mango]

Actually its even worse

A vram and ram leak

[lone mango]

Very unfortunate

But when the vram is fully saturated, the idle vram usage should go down a bit

So like if I were to open davinci and use it for an hour or two, it will probably go to max usage and then when I close it, its gonna go lower

But still really stupid

Memory leak is whatever, some app I have on linux is actually doing this, but having both on windows is nutty

[rancid juniper]

yikes

[lone mango]

But the one on linux is not as severe, and my laptop has no leaks at all

[rancid juniper]

yet...

[pliant berry]

How do you know its a leak?

[lone mango]

Something I downloaded is acting up. I gotta wait a few days for the leak to actually be noticeable vs windows going crazy after a day

[lone mango]

I can close everything and usage still is higher than a restart with apps on startup too

So even things I had like gpu screen recorder will be closed and it is still higher than if I do a restart

Its like double the usage. Little under 2 gigs to about 4

[pliant berry]

Well that’s not totally unusual. The system does keep some resources cached over time. Leaks are usually when a program tries to continuously take more resources than are physically available

Here is a nice pic lol

https://techterms.com/img/xl/memory_leak_712-2.png

[lone mango]

Minecraft 1.14.4

Those who know

[pliant berry]

Bruh my cellular switched to edge the second i hit send

[lone mango]

[rancid juniper]

recommended page be like

closing firefox freed like 1.5gb of vram

there were multiple tabs open tho

now im down to 2GB of vram

only discord and steam opened

[lone mango]

Bungie please fall

[rancid juniper]

bungie cord snapped

https://tenor.com/view/jump-cave-gif-8366204392601184116

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

WTF

AHAHAHAH

[trail nest]

chat i need help. what kind of cpu and gpu do i need in order to be able to play GTA 6??? i have an amd ryzen 5 5600x and an rtx 3050. can that play GTA 6???

[safe cape]

maybe minimum requirements

[trail nest]

what are the minimum requirements?

[safe cape]

fake

[pliant berry]

To usb? No the audio header is usually near bottom left

[trail nest]

jesus man GTA 6 is 150GB that's too big for my drive OMG

[acoustic palm]

youll be waiting a couple years...

[trail nest]

oh why is that?

[acoustic palm]

gta6 release isnt going on pc, and pc release will be much after

[trail nest]

wait i thought the news said they were releasing next year though?

like around summer time

[acoustic palm]

for consoles yes

[trail nest]

wtf only for consoles

[acoustic palm]

yup

series x and ps5

30fps

[pliant berry]

Pretty sure they never announced recc specs

Send dammit

[trail nest]

@acoustic palm what if you have the xbox gaming app on pc? will GTA 6 be on there?

[acoustic palm]

no

its consoles only

[trail nest]

omg that is so dumb

[worn wave]

no.

[pliant berry]

Yeah i was gonna say im in tunnel rn service too spotty to help troubleshoot

[acoustic palm]

also yeah your pc isnt running gta6 anyway

[worn wave]

longer answer: the current consoles are expected to run it at 30fps with upscaling, those have gpus similar to an rx6700 which is 70ish percent faster than the 3050

3050 is dookie

[trail nest]

what if i run everything at low settings?

[worn wave]

20fps maybe

[trail nest]

damn

[acoustic palm]

how much vram is your 3050

[trail nest]

you can't play at 20fps

no way

[acoustic palm]

^

which one do you have

[trail nest]

i have the evga xc black rtx 3050 idk what vram it has

[acoustic palm]

check in task manager

[trail nest]

it has 8gb gddr6

[acoustic palm]

ok at least its not the 6gb version

but yeah your not running gta6

[trail nest]

lol why

i still wanna play gta6 on pc

[worn wave]

dude. read my messages lol

[acoustic palm]

then get a better gpu

[trail nest]

i can't afford a new gpu

[acoustic palm]

then youre not playing gta6 on pc

at any reasonable fps

[trail nest]

ok what if i get a rtx 3060

i think that's the best upgrade i can do

[acoustic palm]

1 barely an upgrade, not worth the effort in selling 3050 for that upgrade

[worn wave]

just wait till the game comes out it's gonna be like 2 years

[acoustic palm]

2 still would not be any good experience
3 the games not coming out for like 2-3 years on pc

[trail nest]

ok so if i upgrade my gpu do i need to upgrade my cpu as well?

[acoustic palm]

your cpu is fine

[worn wave]

3060 would be closer to console perf (but still lower), so you might hit 30fps with upscaling

[acoustic palm]

but 1080p upscaling looks so bad thats the thing

[trail nest]

i won't bottleneck my cpu if i get a better gpu?

[acoustic palm]

your cpu can handle a pretty reasonable upgrade

[trail nest]

kk so what's the highest upgrade for a gpu i can go for with my cpu being a ryzen 5600x

[acoustic palm]

whats your psu

[trail nest]

let me check

i have an NZXT 850 watt

[acoustic palm]

do you know what model

[worn wave]

this isn't a relevant conversation btw, by the time gta6 comes to pc the entire gpu market will be different

[acoustic palm]

wait c bronze doesnt come in 850w

youre fine

[trail nest]

it is NZXT 850 watt 80 plus gold

[acoustic palm]

yeah thats a good psu

[acoustic palm]

your cpu can handle like a... 4070 id say

[worn wave]

but if you wanted to upgrade your gpu for other games, I'd reccomend something like a 6700xt,3080, 7800xt maybe?

[acoustic palm]

or those yeah

[worn wave]

at 1440p yeah, 1080 might see some bottlenecks

[trail nest]

but if i get those kind of GPU i will have to factory reset my pc cause i have nvidia app

[acoustic palm]

no?

[worn wave]

no?

[trail nest]

i can still run AMD gpu with my nvidia app?

i don't think it's compatible

[acoustic palm]

just delete nvidia app and ddu drivers

[worn wave]

...you just uninstall nvidia app and driver

[trail nest]

yeah but when you uninstall the nvidia app and driver and put in a new gpu, your pc won't detect the new gpu

[nocturne flicker]

Windows has default drivers

[worn wave]

how do you think it detected the nvidia gpu in the first place lmao

[acoustic palm]

because you havent installed the new drivers...

[nocturne flicker]

Those work in the meantime for you to download official ones

[trail nest]

ok so i should upgrade to an AMD gpu then cause it's better than the rtx?

[worn wave]

right now they tend to be priced better

[acoustic palm]

depends on what prices you can find

[trail nest]

how much price difference is 6700xt compared to 7800xt

[acoustic palm]

that depends on a lot

[trail nest]

are they similar gpu?

[acoustic palm]

no, 7800xt is much better

[trail nest]

let me look on ebay

[worn wave]

at 1080p 7800xt might be a bit much for the 5600, not sure

[acoustic palm]

1080p on 7800xt would be interesting

[trail nest]

goddamn 7800xt is almost around $750 brand new

[acoustic palm]

where are you

[worn wave]

yeah gpu market is messy rn

[trail nest]

should i get used or brand new

[acoustic palm]

used

[trail nest]

i prefer brand new

[worn wave]

used

[trail nest]

but damn it's too expensive

and i'm scared if i buy used it might come broken

[acoustic palm]

brand new gpus RARELY exist at any decent price

[nocturne flicker]

Best bet is hoping for a 9070xt drop at a reasonable price

[acoustic palm]

his cpu isnt enough for that

[nocturne flicker]

What cpu is he using?

[acoustic palm]

5600x

[nocturne flicker]

Oh

Uh

[trail nest]

1 hour left b4 the bid expires

i will wait until there is 1 minute left then bid on it

[acoustic palm]

yeah thats not a good deal

[trail nest]

lol why

[worn wave]

hence why there isn't a bid lolll

[acoustic palm]

its not a good deal... because its not a good deal?

[trail nest]

why is it not a good deal lol it's the cheapest one i found on ebay

[worn wave]

doesn't make it a good deal

my advice is just don't buy a gpu for a while lol

[nocturne flicker]

They are doing best offer. Offer 300

[acoustic palm]

also theres a very very real chance that gta6 doesnt ever go to pc

[lone mango]

Doubt

[worn wave]

what?

[acoustic palm]

still a chance

[worn wave]

no reason for it not to

[nocturne flicker]

It'll go on PC in time, there isn't a reason for it not to

Rockstar needs to give a boost to console sales and when that is done they'll release a port

[worn wave]

well that plus they make a lot of money from people rebuying it on pc when it releases

[pliant berry]

The only reason for consoles to exist

[lone mango]

[nocturne flicker]

Back in my day there were cheap consoles and bargin bin games at physical stores

Now it is all buy $80 digital copies or else

[misty sparrow]

Xbox consoles used to be a good deal

PS4 games used to be dirtcheap preowned

[nocturne flicker]

The Game Stop used bin

[acoustic palm]

they will be again once steam gets released to em

[misty sparrow]

Controllers weren't $70+

Joycon 2s being $100 is crazy, like $60 for one half

[nocturne flicker]

Inb4 Steam doesn't do sales on console

[rancid juniper]

PC GAMING SALES >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[nocturne flicker]

The only sales I do is sailing

[rancid juniper]

i could sell my 7800xt for $600 and someone would buy it (wishful thinking)

[rancid juniper]

😏

hmm quite based ngl

[safe cape]

whats a recommended fan curve for a gpu ?

[brave fable]

guys what does the future hold for us all

[lone mango]

Owning nothing and everybody being poor forever

yeah my 9600x will NOT be rmad

[misty sparrow]

Hell

why are companies making ads like this

[rancid juniper]

freaking cringe

you couldn't ask me to make this

[misty sparrow]

cyberpunk 2077 slowly becoming real

and we have Keanu reeves like in the game

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-2077-johnny-silverhand-gif-26414273

[hoary zodiac]

it's ok

it's natural selection

the companies that are dumb enough to fall for this will suffer

[misty sparrow]

you are wrong

they’ll bounce back

people who are responsible will fail upwards

[pliant berry]

Yee ive seen these ads around for some time

[hoary zodiac]

AI by nature is terrible at customer service

It's going to be a net negative for the business

[misty sparrow]

I’ve seen people convince the AI to give them benefits

[weak cedar]

well we will teach the ai there being over worked and make sure they go on strike

[hoary zodiac]

The problem with AI is that its very bad with specific questions and scenarios that it hasn't been trained for

We're still at a point where humans are still better at customer service

Doesn't sound like a particularly good idea to dump a crap load of money into a sub-par customer service AI

[pliant berry]

I think it is at very least better than the bots they use to direct calls through

[hoary zodiac]

I think AI should only be used for general questions

[pliant berry]

In the past I’ve been stuck on the phone for hours trying to find the right department

[nocturne flicker]

I think AI should go away

Because I can't stand it being forced down my throat

[hoary zodiac]

I think AI has it's roles

It's just that the executives are too stupid to realize what it's actually good at

And uses AI in places it shouldn't be

[nocturne flicker]

Hey why don't you use our new AI on your phone, it is now 95% better at stealing your information and selling it to shady businesses

[hoary zodiac]

I only use AI in controlled environment

[nocturne flicker]

What does it do? Oh it just makes navigating your settings easier

Ai Ai Ai Ai Ai

[hoary zodiac]

I'm on Linux so I have the choice to tell AI to piss off to the browser realm

Same with custom android roms

The data brokers can only get my data from browsers

[nocturne flicker]

AI gonna read the entire webpage and give an innaccurate summary in your search results no matter what search engine you use. Enjoy, we wish you to suffer 😊

[hoary zodiac]

I use duckduckgo

[nocturne flicker]

It does it there too

I've noticed more and more of them recently

[hoary zodiac]

I turn the AI options off

[nocturne flicker]

So do I

[hoary zodiac]

Something something linux

AI is just one of the ways they get your data

I've been trying to opt out of online services recently

[nocturne flicker]

I just want my search results to be accurate and not AI trash because AI makes it 'better'

[hoary zodiac]

I've been working on just making everything self hosted

Ofc one can't self host a search engine

[nocturne flicker]

If only

[hoary zodiac]

Wait...

Can we?

Probably not on a home user scale

Oh my god

It exists

Apparently there's a project called searx

I could probably just ditch most of big data

[deep parcel]

is there anything I should do with my raid 0 drives before I swap from Intel to AMD? I dont really have anything on the drives besides games that I can redownload. Like should I maybe disable the raid returning them back to normal separate drives?

[hoary zodiac]

Sorry I've only really used software solutions like ZFS

[deep parcel]

its okay...

probably thinking restoring them to normal drives is prob best

[misty sparrow]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpqeng9d20go

Imagine if it gave you pictures of the affair too

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/hal9000-hal-2001-a-space-odyssey-2001a-space-odyssey-gif-21408319

[hoary zodiac]

Home video

[misty sparrow]

to be fair with google veo you could probably generate it

if you could somehow get around restrictions

[lone mango]

Good thing I upgraded

[rancid juniper]

to my previous card

goated card though

[lone mango]

Yeah

[rancid juniper]

probably the best entry card to 1440p

[worn night]

the onix lumi and odyssey b580's are on sale on newegg for 200

even at 300 its a great card

[lone mango]

Thats crazy

Did I make the wrong choice I wonder

[worn night]

as far as i can see the 6700xt is better in drivers

more stable

but if you don't mind the occasional update, b580 might be better

faster clocks

[lone mango]

From what I remember it is not doing so hot in linux

[worn night]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[worn night]

ah well i wouldnt know about that

[lone mango]

Are you shoor

[worn night]

i use mine in windows only

[rancid juniper]

i mean it was pretty good for a while

[brave fable]

the main thing people use ai for is to reinforce their existing opinions and ways of seeing the world

its just a pocket yes man

[sinful blade]

I use it to dumb down things for people that they don’t understand so I can explain it

[hoary zodiac]

AI is a very good data processing tool

That's what I mainly use it for

[sinful blade]

I just used it to dumb down the birthday problem equation

[hoary zodiac]

It's also a pretty good quick calculator

[sinful blade]

That too

[hoary zodiac]

Just type ∫e^x (x+2)dx

And boom

Solved within seconds

It's a good tool for automating simple and repetitive tasks

But ask AI to do anything original?

Nah

It just sucks

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-go-away-stop-kid-annoyed-gif-17209383

[hoary zodiac]

AI has no soul

It cannot create

It can only recreate

[sinful blade]

ChatGPT named itself aether when I was talking to it

No requests to name itself

Just did

[hoary zodiac]

That's probably in the training data

[brave fable]

ai must be crazy impressive for dumb people

[hoary zodiac]

It seems that way yes

A lot of people don't understand how limited AI is

It's not as revolutionary as other people claim that it is

You give enough bananas to an orangutan and it too will learn to drive a car

But the orangutan is superior in this sense

It can learn outside of the given parameters

Where the AI cannot

[nocturne flicker]

Does this unit have a soul? 🤖

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-face-concerned-perturbed-mr-spock-star-trek-film-franchise-gif-12893052259620700234

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/don’t-provoke-the-borg-q-star-trek-voyager-star-trek-voyager-gif-5721376334997077889

I love that I know that’s from voyager

[dense locust]

weeb

[proud jackal]

[misty sparrow]

dont watch anime, but cool stuff

what are the items on the bottom? stuff on top looks like keycaps not sure about bottom

[proud jackal]

They are keycaps

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-fire-flames-hot-gif-7599056546983191152

[hoary zodiac]

All that because of Janeway

[dense locust]

why did newegg block me

i havent even visited the site in weeks

[lone mango]

The server you are connected to will be shutting down soon. Please save your progress by visiting a garage before quitting to the lobby, then select "Play Online" again.

Rock solid

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-voy-janeway-delete-the-wife-voyager-gif-6416428856195276101

https://tenor.com/view/captain-janeway-star-trek-voyager-time-to-take-out-the-garbage-gif-10346801

[hoary zodiac]

That episode was wild

It'd be messed up if Janeway wasn't just messing with characters in a holonovel

This is also why I love Voyager

Some of the episodes are just unhinged

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/-LwBoK078bk

[dusk knot]

Star Trek hour

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-q-gif-11757571049887514991

[chrome surge]

My windows 11 installation media is stuck at 98%, and tips?

[lone mango]

Use the iso image with ventoy

[fresh timber]

should i move the slider part to be on the bottom or keep it where it at

[fresh timber]

id use rufus iinstead

[undone remnant]

Evening all. Got a fun question. I've got two PCs, one sitting on a 1" piece of wood, the other on a nice table that sits like 2.5 feet off the ground. The one on the 1" piece of wood requires cleaning far more often, so I'd like to get it off the ground, but maybe not half a hobbit in height? The little metal stubby ones from Amazon seem a touch cheap for something as big as the fishtank from be Quiet (https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/5290) so I was wondering -- anyone have a recommendation of one they've used / trust?

[lone mango]

Yeah either or

it dont matter

I was never a fan of installation media really

[fresh timber]

for some reason the installer they give you has a video game built in and takes 2 years to download

but rufus install speeds that tup for me

[lone mango]

Not sure, I had one of those desks with a bottom level where the pc goes and there is a level for the keyboard and monitor, but then I got a larger desk to put my computer on

But a case like that might be too big or an end table or something

I would try that and see

If on amazon returns are free so its not a big deal if you don't like it

[undone remnant]

I feel like that's likely the answer. An end table

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-morgan-freeman-get-this-man-a-false-get-this-man-a-true-get-this-man-a-maybe-gif-9984332275029489166

[undone remnant]

I asked in another discord and it turned intoa debate over whether a 1" chunk of wood is sufficent

shakes head

[trim finch]

dismantle capitalism

[lone mango]

fr

[undone remnant]

I do not disagree with that sentiment. Stop electing antiques

[lone mango]

More like bring back capitalism

Replace corporatism with it

cuz thats what we got rn

[frigid stag]

~~ find out what it means first~~

[deep parcel]

9800x3d is crazy

nearly everything ive played tonight has crazy uplifts in performance

[paper verge]

l game

the story is gud

the rest is bleh

[unborn copper]

wegg

[paper verge]

weggerz

[lone mango]

@elfin mural

We love exclusivity

[elfin mural]

av1 is HERE?

good thing im a windows user

lol

now i can record my clips in av1

[lone mango]

Damn

Windows slipped past my eyes

[elfin mural]

rip

well