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I can pick one up for $550
the 16gb that is
used gpu go brr
that's a whole different market tbh
good chance u end up with better
New server rule: discourage anyone from getting a 8gb card
used starts to fall apart at higher end
I'd make that more specific
nah buying 8gb card period in 2025 is a bad idea unless its like $150
discourage anyone from getting an 8gb card when the card has no right to have 8gb vram
12gb minumal
depends on use case
again
depends on use case
nope, idc the price
Doesn’t matter how cheap. No 8gb
if ur spending $300 on a gpu 8gb is a scam
i bought a b580 😴

again
depends on the use case
Eeeeeeehhhhhh
and obviously it doesn't apply to $300 gpus
use case doesnt matter when ur being scammed
5060 is a scam gpu
again
Just don’t think of playing modern games on high settings
depends on use case
besides
A310 has 4GB vram
you might be able to find a decent alternative depending on the used market
doesn't mean the card is bad
it just means that the use case shouldn't be vram intensive
they gave it 4gb out of pity
4gb is enough to run a 4k display and watch youtube
you can use that for other comptute tasks
it's a display adapter
that can also encode
I see no issues for having a decent display dapter
gpus aren't designed for a single purpose
Unless AMD the your stuck
I'm at the point where I always tell people to look for used cards at lower budgets
the market is screwed up
Anything non gaming I tried AMD in, it kinda sucks
I be getting out matched by a 4060 sometimes
I mean
that's just radeon
they're good for gaming
not much else
unless it's specifically optimized for it
I wonder
how would the performance differ if you had a 13600k
It'd be interesting to see streaming on the igpu vs dgpu
od just use the igpu
since resources would be shifted around
Guts
higher ram usage, cpu load
quick sync doesnt have issues with aot
do i enlist in army
I was thinking more along the lines of qsv vs nvenc
rn i get performance issues in some games when screensharing
Enlist yourself
where the hypothetical benchmark would be more examining the difference in loads
Any millitary basicallly
my theory is that shifting streaming to the igpu can free up the dgpu
although I don't know how that would impact the cpu load
and memory usage
hence fps
Im 5’4 overweight AF i csnt sleep without medication and i have fallen arches which is a automatic decline for millitary
it'd be interesting to test regardless
i wanna test a nvidia gpu really, i wonder what their advantages are, i know for one nvidia broadcast is amazing
nvidia is better by being the industry standard
Same.. i cant deal with loud shouting near my ear..
Might snap
ill snap
everything (except linux) just works better on nvidia
id tke a used 4070
I only see it as a weigjt loss thing
for a bigger performance jump
Thats fine.. maybe you can find your harley on the army
too much
I don't think it's worth going from the 7700xt to 4070 tbh
yeah but it's never going to be that low
so the 4070 cost more than the 5070
and at the point when it is
thats nice
there will be other options
you're kinda at the awkward point
where upgrading is kinda bad value
do these people not know the 5070 can be found at msrp
i wont
let the scalpers suffer
fr
play stupid games win stupid prizes
how tf are u scalping something when the "better" verson is litterly avalible for less
they deserve to lose their money
i should get my self a new monitor
i know i wanna get something tech related as a gift to my self, i just dont know what
meanwhile
my baby
i really should get a mini pc to swap all my compute to
yes
mini pc compute is goated
you can set up clusters too
for easy vm migration
that's not hard for ddr4+ machines
ddr5 is a lot more meh
and this is the reason why
found a prebuilt with an athlon and 9070
only downside is i cant upgrades the networking
that has to be a GTX 970
boomer guess what i did
there is no way there is an athlon and 9070
nah rx9070 XD
i found a old pc case with like 6 hdd slots
oh
atholon from 2035??
i dont haev side panel anyways
Nevermind
however
nvm its not athlon
I've found something better
but its low end
4U cases
Jesus christ
You 2 talk wayyy too much
rack cases are great
they have a decent amount of drive bays
i want something like this
a 10100f is faster it looks like
jonsbo is good
yeah
surely it doesn't take a 10100f to beat that
A10 isn't that powerful
surely a 6100 could beat it
if i could id use my nas as a htpc too
wanna know whats crazy boomer, its cheaper to get two 4tb hdds than it is to get a nas case to fit my 500gb hdds
i can save money while getting more storage
yes
who tf thought it was a good idea to order those
idk what i wanna do with my 500gb hdds
it's more cost effective to just get a 4-8TB
once i swap to 4tb.. they will probably still sit in my nas
backup nas
it was more cost effective for me to get 500gb
and the cpu is listed at the bottom XD
why? it was free
Need to show off the 9070
bot
bot
ban them
@proud jackal
I'm not a moderator
This has to be a fake listing lol it says ddr5 32gb
they probably got the name wrong for the cpu
i could swap to ddr5..
are you on ddr4?
yes
🤨
@random osprey
I guess it makes sense
i could set alerts for this
since you came from a ddr4 platform
this 5070 goes for msrp all the time
699?
11600k to a 13600kf, kept same ram, now I dont even use that ram
eh
scalper price
they probably got the name wrong theres other pcs with similar specs
that's nice
a10 7700k and 5070 ti for 3 grand 
what if it's an i7 7700k
better deal
$550 for a 5070, aamazing value
yeah but it's 3 grand
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Hyte is working on a new "X50" series of computer cases with strange, bubbly panel designs, vibrant colors, and an extremely high focus on airflow. Hyte wants to make this case one of the highest performing cases on the market, especially for the price, and will be launchi...
3 grand for a quad core is a ripoff
but still pretty scammy
Woagh
isn't that the case with meh airflow
ooo
theyre not selling them anymore in usa
Y70 is better
decide quick
from my basic info they have meh airflow because people tested them with the stock fan config
any case can be good airflow if u stuff it with enough fans 
oooo
for instance
and by good i mean good enough
if the front panel is blocked
so even if you put fans there
the air can't get through
i have a case with a blocked side panel, im ngl it still pushed air
so the fans would just be decorative
my 2nd pc can run with out fans
well you can with a certain extent
deadass if i remove the aio fan its just fine
as long as you have decent airflow
i ran that for an entire day while gaming
adding more fans wouldn't do anything
if the case is designed in a way where there is no airflow
only my 13600kf needs fans, or it over heats
then adding fans won't do anything
i think any modern case with engineers with some braincells will be fine
obviously tehirs some bad apples
you'd be surprised how many modern cases have completely blocked front intakes
but atleast 99.9% of modern cases have good enough flow
put your pc parts in it and be happy
it's nowhere near 99.9%
side panel overrated ¯_(ツ)_/¯
that you have to open the side panel
open the side panel and replace it with a 20" box fan?
i be putting my side panel on and end up taking it back off
deadass i wanna do that now
idk any good cases to replace a nv5 with grrr
trying to force a pc upgrade is difficult
blow away from the case so it leans back on the case when you turn the dial up to 3
i deadass bet i could run my pc in their with low temps
you shouldn't have to get a case with crap airflow anyways
the point is that you shouldn't even buy the case with crap airflow
because there is another case for the same price
that has actual airflow
Man you spam
the moment chat is slow and you are bored and complain when it is too active
Woah. It sent
i had this case, suprisling good airflow
Whatevrr dude
which is usable
point is
you dont have to minmax ur damn air
your little 7600 and 9060 will be just fine in that case
i mean, you kinda do, cause of thermal throttling
you dont have to minmax every little pc thing
you're not listening
sir, i ran that case no throttling

having alot of airflow is 100% a want for alot of people
ok
then you're maxed enough which is probably your whole point
stop typing for a second
iv ran all my fans as exhaust before, barley a temp diffrence
Bro is that the og thermaltake riing
note for luls: you're both boomers (boom in the name)
we are not the same

boomer and i are not the same
lmao
at least we agree on that
to be fair if you compare me and you to that syntax guy
we suddenly look a lot more similar
@lone mango what useless upgrade should i get
360mm aio
i mean we use our common sense and dont spam chat with our broken 4090
we also dont say where going to kill our selfs or join the military
And build pics
Its spreading
link to the message?
I have pretty much always ran laptops and thermals were definitely a big deal there so I would also be picky about thermals on a desktop. If you're not getting thermal throttling, your temps aren't trashing your hware, and your fans aren't loud AF from running aull blast all the time - I agree I'd say good enough
@random osprey
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oh I have to unblock to jump to message
that's annoying
Am I a boomer now 
yes

original message was deleted
My father was a boomer
id get soomething like this but im scared of trying new aio
An actual one
did you have the message link?
No but I think mods can see deleted messages
1955 go brrrrr
oh I think a mod deleted that
I am become death
well the thing is
Destroyer of bots
He may or may not be on thin ice
i'm also the lazy minipc guy so I'm going to let you guys get back to your case rage 😉
hes already on thin ice with mr roomba
lmfao
i sent roomba a intresting dm with some evidancex
Dr Mr Roomba plz use assume manual control of a roomba and post antics
did you say mini pc?
lets just say same dm got bro banned in the toastybros se rver after he annoyed the poop out of the staff and members
please elaborate
titan

you think this would perform better than a ls720 se
no
i deadass would get one for my tv too
the most gpu intensive game I play is occasionally wow classic but I wfh as a sr devops engi so I wound up with a atomman g7 pt barebones and put 96gb ram in it
what's your mini pc specs
iCUE more like iSue. Criminal prices
I want an aio with a screen for my build
same
really want that alder lake
Dunno if any are affordable tho
im sad
thermalright makes one
my ram isnt stable on am4
that's under $100
AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX
96gb ddr5 5600
Radeon RX 7600M XT
did you get corsair'd
thats a.. impressive mini pc
96GB?
im using g.skill
wtf?
yea
2x48?
We need ten quadrillion chromesticks
that's where the devops engi stuff comes in
that mini pc is faster than alot of rigs
2x48, yeah, I run a bunch of docker container crap and compile stuff a lot
cloud.. i could do a ddr5 swap...
im the type to run 7200mt/s
and I don't want 5600 CL40
sodimms are quite limited
sadge
not that my use case really cares all that much tbh
ram speed & latency might not matter actually
but that latency is pretty painful to look at
my worse kit is probably my laptop kits
DDR4 3200 CL22
Hmmm maybe
sodimms do be slow
yeah i think these are cas40 i haven't actually checked bios or whatever the mem profile app was, i forget... haven't been back in windows for very long lol
no CL16 on mobile I guess
I mean for the use case that mini pcs are typically used for
i just made sure to avoid lddr
ram doesn't matter as much as on full size pcs
where gaming loads would prefer lower latency memory
but since it's a compute machine
it's not as important
this is my only computer but again it's mostly for software engi/docker/kubernetes
@wary fjord check dms pls
bro
Another

I’m back at looking at this
i have that actually
for the performance you get out of it
depends on use case bla bla 13600kf destroys it even with ddr4 if it's used as a workstation cpu
Bots galore recently
13600kf wins in gaming too
Lolll
the gap is larger for non gaming
a lot larger
Gaming is the only thing the 5700X3D is justified
and that is assuming you already have an am4 machine
if you're building brand new then nah
9600X or 13600K
or 7600
the market fluctuates a lot
could a bios update give me bad 1% lows?
If you don’t plan on upgrading your system after 5 years I honestly like 13600kf over 7600, rn they are around the same price
Xmp gives me bad 1% lows
i rolled back my gpu driver as well, wasnt happening before the bios
I have to tune my ram my self to get good lows
i may roll back my bios, i didnt make any changes that wouldve caused it
ok
how else could i test for 1% lows?
Hi
no real psu shroud is a struggle lol
Can we make a "pc specs" channel to go along with #build-pics ?
Seems redundant
pretty redundant
I will run helldivers 2 on linux
Based
Im applying for cashier at the pizza place literally one mile from my house
I pray like hell they hire me
Mannnn
I remember when i applied for a warehouse manager
They got back to me talking abt blah blah blah i can’t remember and then texted me a few days later saying the spots been filled

What
How is it done at 5%
Well it launched again immediately so I guess thats it

I applied
LOOL did yall see that
Thank you moderators
This is the only server im in that has bots
Yeah I hit him wit that 
I think theyre coming from someone thats actually in the server
Wow a second eula for helldivers
What is this bruh
This is supposed to be a video game
Whoever's making these bots is going to get a pizza
Its not me
I applied for the sonic in my town and the one in the city 20 minutes from me
What is this
My town so poor we had to bulldoze the mcdonalds for money 😭😭
Time to kill some freaks 
Its all garbage slop made to degrade your health
I just need 1500$
Engineered, even
And 4000$ for a car
Based
We are going to die one day
It's not fast, it's not food, and it's not cheap
Good point
Thats probably like a check and a half idk
Standard pay is 400$(every 2 weeks)
For teens
From what i know
I attempted to apply to this sonic a few days before I turned 16 and the girl had a very ugly attitude old ahh workin a deadend job prolly was mad lol
How old are you
if i recall properly shes 37
Bro what who
or maybe that was clouds dad
17 is not young
idk i forgot
That is a he
I thought he was below 16
He has ginormous hands

Definitely not a girl






21
pretty sure a mademoiselle
6
No way
I haven’t grown since I was 15
But i dropped out of school and i dont go outside mainly due to lack of social skills and i dont have anything to do for me to go outside
So
No vitamins
This is louisiana
You dont need much sun exposure to get the benefits
The bugs outside, youd think your in the amazon rain forest bro 😭
balkans are like
Plus its termite season rn
stick men
The swamp
but you lost half the match
Dankam said hi to me
1990s bosnia
the serbian movie
Serbia is a bad place to go
or wtv
As a matter of fact we fly the commercial planes around serbia
Don't talk about what Serbia from 1991-2001
Oh you know about that?
💀
I forgot Croatia did it's own thing until you reminded me
even germany said it was too much
Reminds me of communist Cambodia
Even Maoist China told Cambodia to calm down
Yes
Chairman Mao himself
I killed a roach in a brutal way
I caught it with the bug trapper, opened it a little bit and sprayed some raid into it
It collected on the bottom and the roach fell into it
I have no sympathy for these creatures
bro is describing war crimes
what did croatia do
i thought croatia was known for their women and uh yheah
about it
Nevermind not gonna be able to make it to the interview
They want me to “pick a date”
I try that
Yk what it does?
NOTHING
just confirms that i want what they want me to want
looks like my watch loses is slow by 1 minute per week
Lmao I saw t he thumb down
it was only 35 cad though so i'm not surprised
We need to stop this
This the kinda stuff people needa beat up for
Like i truly can’t believe this
IT LITERALLY TELLS ME TO PICK A DATE
Yeah job hunting can be its own job fr
I CANT
Quite unfortunate
ITS SGUCK ON FRIDAY MAY 23
I CLICK IT TO CHANGE IT AND IT JUST CONFIRMS THE OREMADE DATE
Im sending video
They literally want me to contact them
Thats the point here
I see it im nkt stupod
Hit confirm
I cant
It has to be a weekend thing
Loke
The interview
My granny gets off work at 4 and doesn’t make it home till 5:15
Its the worst possible time
OTS ON A FRIDAY TOO
Call them in the morning and see if they can change the time to something you’re able to do.
Ill see
Its a sonic
The roaches own the place lol
The inside when i had to walk in was pretty chaotic
So much stuff happening at once
Usual fast food
The girl doing application had a bad attitude
That made me so mad
“CoMe BaCk wHeN yOuR 16
That mafe me sooooo mad 😡
Im not gonna do a interview with then, and if i do it wont be for a few weeks
damn bro
i was gonna give a very US BIASED suggestion
What
but i dont even think i gotta say it for us all to know what i mean
😂
I wonder if Optane is worth it for caching
Damn i missed jt
Optane is almost unknown to me but perhaps
I wonder how many drives I can fit in my nas
I restarted after a crash and it is taking a very very long time to do it so I did ctrl alt f2 to see what the system is doing
And its looping
It just did it again
There is now a fifth section with the word jiffies
Whatever that means
I think I gotta hit that power button man

We are now at 2,225,139 jiffies
nothing will happen
Anybody happen to have any links to PCIe bifurcation risers?
I think I finally wanna try one and see if it helps me
does your motherboard support bifurcation?
I dare him to say he will not review any nvidia gpu from now on. Just to escalate the situation 
Its a one sided beef
That would be dangerously based
Nvidia: keep yapping YouTubers 💅
CUDA is the industry standard
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This is a dual-GPU video card with 2x Intel Arc GPUs on one PCB. Intel has new Arc GPUs in the Battlemage family that are using existing BMG silicon, but with more memory and some other tuning for workstation, so-called "AI," inference, and content creation workloads. The...
48gb workstation dual die gpu from intel??
I think it's third party
Not from intel
Funny Chinese card
ah
Nvidia will put and extra gigabyte on a card and make it $100 more
i dont6 think nvidia uses that emoji
What do they use 
💰 this one
funny exploding PSU brand
ik, but then the brand was mentioned
Kaboom
Praying to the machine gods it wont blow up
Apparently even gigabyte peripherals have combustibility
Such as that gigabyte mouse
No way that's true 💀
That's absolutely wild
LMAOO NO WAY
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1i7br8w/my_gigabyte_mouse_caught_fire_and_almost_burned/
omg jc a bomb
damn it I thought it was for gaming for a sec 😭
good morning my discord friends
hi
sup
how the hell does that make sense 
has anyone watched the accountant 2?
idgi
8gb is obsolete
For those who don’t want to play on acceptable settings
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NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang spent about two minutes during his 2-hour Computex 2025 Keynote presentation talking about the RTX 5060, which is (percentage-wise) about how much NVIDIA cares about the PC gamers who built them as ...
Unbelievable
man, I just went from 6GB to 8GB and now it’s obsolete
For newer games, yeah
what kind of newer games
stuff like helldivers 2?
that’s the only one I own that really pushes it
Most triple A games that studios won’t optimize
Is there a 5060ti too?
5060tie
No drivers or reviews allowed since ngreedai knows it SUXX
I guess another fake frames card 
They just want to grow as much as possible till they become the only tech superpower worth a quadrillion dollars
Yall just now realizing this? Ive known since he ignored that one guy at that convention or whatever
Yeah, more fake frames. The only data provided are slides about MFG
We’ve been knowing
fun thing is gpus isn't their main income source tho 
i mean consumer gpus . they getting 10x more money from data centers and AI robotics 
we have huge monomoply on tech market . only 2 companies making highend cpu gpus and they probably have fake compatition
competition is last thing big corpos wants . they rather have concerted practice instead. it's open clear in tech market
Competition *
my english still sux
even tho been living in US for like 7 years 

we have another member of fake frames family
which named 5060
we don't have any data without 4x frame gen lol
Hey
A very boring watch
apparently the intel card with the dual chip actually is a thing
lol it could be interesting and hi
Already watched an overview
It’s just more AI AI AI AI
servers
And AI
oof, welp im mostly waiting for intel to reveal their higher end arc cards
ROBOTS
ROBOBOBOT
I love robots, but it’s all virtual training
🗿
these workstation cards actually look kind of sick. would consider getting for a new system
Ig
Supposed to be 48GB vram i think
Do we have price and release day
It’s just two separate “gpus” on the same pcb
maybe after computex
I would be interested in an affordable card that could do high quality ai images and videos
yeah but it looks perfect for ai and workstation workloads
Is the AM5 mounting the same for AM4? Just double checking…
Meant other way around but thinking it is
gaming cards honestly kind of suck for some editing
ok
5090 sucks
mfw nerds were still coping that there would be an a780 weeks before b580 launch, and now nerds are coping that intel will magically spit out a high end die despite still losing money on Arc
that it is
5090 sucks at editing
arc should high key have been cancelled when it was apparent that Alchemist was going to be years late and at worse performance than expected
Give ghosty his b60
Why
Competition good
Intels doing this for the hope they make profit in the long run
is Arrow Lake a good architecture? and would the cancelled future design changes have been good?
imo the answer is clearly no, yes. which begs the question: should intel have put money into CPU core design instead of dumping it into a vast pit via Arc?
imo it's a clear and obvious yea
they're not competing
Yes they are
they're losing money per unit sold not including RND
You don’t understand
And? A lot of company sell things at a loss
they are producing as few cards as they possibly can, are using massive dies to reach low end performance, and even still are only barely competing in price/performance
Arrowlake is good now ngl
it's pitifully mediocre, and there are very very few reasons to purchase it over Ryzen
imo the best thing for them is to focus on the professional space where nvidia and amd lack unless you are spending over 5k on a gpu
When bought at the msrp, which they are promising to resolve, it’s an amazing card
they can't resolve it since they're not making any GPUs really, and even at MSRP it's quite mediocre
Looks like intels focus is the professional space which they succeed in, arrow lake is amazing for video editing
They promised they would, I think that suggest making more gpus
yeah, that's pretty much its only use case lol. they're losing in mobile and server, which is what keeps the lights on
Their mobile is surprisingly good
yeah i'm sure at a time when Intel is continuing to lose revenue they're really really keen on losing even more money
they're losing marketshare. the market clearly disagrees
Just raise the price a bit?
But have you.. looked at the mobile CPUs
it's mediocre at MSRP, plain bad above MSRP
yes, they're okay. not really that interesting
A b580 is a $300 gpu in my opinion
They could get away with $330 if they wanted
Not like you can buy anything new gen anyways
They don’t exist
bringing things back into focus, Arc is bad, CPU is... okayish in some ways. i'd rather they have good CPUs and no GPUs than simply outright losing in both
i think that's a reasonable preference to have lol
as things currently stands, Intel is making products for two segments, and losing in both
would it not be better for "competition" if they actually competed in one market?
that's a big question to unpack. as a product or as a technology?
huh
yeah, they kinda suck lol. Alchemist still barely works and Battlemage is pretty mediocre
We are consumers, I’d assume we will be looking at is as a product
Does the b580 beat the 5060
If it does, I think they good
as a product it's barely competitive in price to performance while having less competitive feature set than either Radeon or GeForce, next to no availability (because technologically it sucks/is very expensive), and rarely sells at MSRP, making it lose even in the one area it barely makes a splash in (budget value)
it's a bad product
You have OLED. No need to buy
its price is the only thing that sucks about them
its better than amd in alot of ways, worst in others, same for nvidia
arc for example has good encoders
not trying to defend the company here but this is their second gen card
im all in for more competitors
we've discussed TPU's graphs in the past. this is the correct one
5% better than a 4060 at 1080p lol
but they're not competing... either in GPU (understandable) or CPU (way less so). to me it sounds absolutely insane to suggest that intel should continue throwing money into a pit so that they MIGHT make money in 6 years instead of simply putting money in existing IP that actually kinda works
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lmfao
yeah in the same way the 4060 is 
the 4060 isnt a 1440p card for the fact it has no vram
and b580 isn't because it's slow asf lmao
why is this even an argument, the point is bringing back competition. intel arc has had some of the most promising releases out of all the competitors as of lately. in some areas they are extremely well performing and cost effective. in gaming they still lack some software support but show great improvement. the improvements arc has made is much more than nvidia has been pulling off lately. not saying it's perfect but that competition is always good
i have games sturggling on one of my 8gb cards for lack of vram 
didn't you see the demand in the arc b580?
its... not even slow
like the demand was so high that there was no inventory
how is this slow
if anything they're trying to gain mindshare here
sounds like the 9070xt
even if it had 24gb it
wouldnt use it
absolutely
9070xt has demand, it sucks
because they're not competing! this is such a silly argument because people stupidly assume that merely existing means to compete- they are not producing cards, and the few that they are are underwhelming products, and bad technologically. they're not competing lol
intel exisiting in the gpu space is competiton
4060 is slow. b580 is barely faster than 4060
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GeForce RTX 4070 T...
that's an absolutely insane statement
you realize youre argument is essentially "well they're bad because they are bad, therefore they don't compete"
at least the 4060 can run older games
do you actually make arguments or do you just recycle thumbnails to form your opinions?
the video contains benchmarks
anything not on dx12 on b580 is rough
they don't compete because they are bad. they can't compete because they are bad. therefore they should try to be good in something that they are actually good at (CPU)
being a 6700xt is bad
perhaps you should take a class in logic before you continue this argument
that's such cope lol
Dude, i dunno what goes on with intel internally but you do realize that they're trying to tap into the dgpu market as best as they can. Drivers aren't great, overhead is high, and stock is low.
6700xt is bad now sorry



