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if you want benchmarks you'd go to techpowerup
review+benchmarks is where techtubers provide
🤨
True
Testing games is a benchmarker
but i gotta be honest tpu does review too
and they go to great depths about the cards themselves
What’s the word for it
journalism i suppose
TPU, tomshardware, testing games, HUB, GN, zWormzGaming are usually the sources i look at for benchmarks
it's like a journalism report
how's digitalfoundry?
But it feels more like those tabloids articles compared to objective journalism 
Where they just give out the facts
digital foundry is benchmark, also sometimes emotional videos
because they have retaliated other channels before
like using words "dumb" and stuff

defending taa is copium
Techtubers beef will never not be funny
they defended that???
It’s kind of boring now though
ya

deferred rendering is also defended
rip clarity i guess
taa is like a bandaid solution to hide bad base rendering
This cannot continue
fr
Nanite
minecraft shaders use taa even
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hl alyx having better aa than modern taa games with just 4x msaa
Not all but it is pretty common
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It’ll still sell out xD
this one's a technical vid against df
Complementary has fxaa and some kind of temporal solution but it is not blurry
Guys what benchmark place is unbiased, all the ones I see look biased
TPU
GN is also unbiased, but you might not like the entertaining aspect
The benches themselves are unbiased
The narration however is different
Ye that’s what I mean
ye
He be spitting sometimes but some things dont make sense. Bro was expecting nice features/looks to be present on low/medium in alan wake
Graphics is overrated
But I guess at the end of the day it doesn’t matter because even with low it still ran like trash, even with the game missing whatever he was talking about
im satisfied with 2010's graphics and decent performance
that was basically the peak of graphics and performance lol
To the point where you have games that run 10x slower compared to slightly older games which don’t look too different
can we go back pls
yall what would be better a 5800x for 150 or 5700x3d for 230
games also look sterile with photorealism
and if i get 5800x i might get 32 gb ram too
Yeah its like an exponential curve. Those graphics look close to as good but run way better
Do you already have am4
yh but in all the benchmarks ive seen neither of them bottlenecks a 3080
yeah these cpus don't bottleneck a 3080
Yep
might as well go with more ram
yh cuz ive been seeing my ram usage go up to 15.5gb in game😭
i think we hit a peak during the PS4/Xone Era
ik GTA 6 is trying to top that tho...
fh2 looked great
alr thanks it was just to get a better idea overall
and hd 7770 or something igpu
Bro is playing an ai model
it made games so easy to run
since consoles were trash
hardware limitations forced devs to make the games run
It was ok at the time
a game like Driveclub ran on the PS4 and looked very nice
It’s like a gtx 750 for gpu
but now they just cope and tell us "don't have 4090? skill issue"
Have you seen the video called game optimization used to be black magic
Yes
How they got games to run on the ps2
its thanks to hardware limitations that made devs being extra creative
Real optimisation was in the 2000s when they had to work with 1 or 2 cores 
And 1gb ram
trying to squeeze out as much fps as they possibly can
and basically no vram
Dude that game where you are on the horse and you kill those big monsters was crazy
single core that ran like what
Websites from that time are so nice
Now mf’s trying to create blender renders with their websites
now without much limitations developers just think its easy to pump out their game without proper inspectation as they believe the hardware CAN TAKE IT
no
it cannot
it can take it if you have a 4 grand pc

anything else? you're SOL

Even if you have a high end card, you still get ripped off in those games
Frostpunk 2 30 fps on a 4090 at 4k
10 to 15 fps 1% lows
what, that playstation game?
shadow of the colossus?
Yeah the ps2 game i forgot the bame of
Shadow of the colossus
Yeah
i like how it's people's responsibility to upgrade their pc EVERY year to play newest games
Code/assets are never bad. Reason games perf badly is cuz you're using it wrong
they've gaslit us all
real
I love nvidia so much look at these features man


as much as i like dlss
it kinda kicked off the trend of bad graphics and bad perf
same for fsr
Stpid amd just buy nvidia
“Upgrade your almost 5 year old card, why do you expect games to run at all on it”
The card in question getting 5070 performance
XD
gpus have stagnated
and devs want us to upgrade??
perf level has basically not changed much
technically but where we're at (the tools now) they still choose to be lazy
ue5 enables them to be extra lazy
Even better when web devs don't split their assets between servers, don't optimize their assets, make scrolling very slow, spread out info way too much to get max scrolling potential
Exactly. The hardware is powerful enough to where it doesn’t gain like how it used to and they become more delusional
ue5 is designed for dev speed rather than render speed lol
having well established tools comes at a cost
literally convenience in general pays a price...
Anyways, I go now. Work needs me
“now theres frame gen use that”

theyre trying to psy op the 5090 owners into using frame gen
5090 frame gen sweeps unfortunately
instead of fixing the game
they manage to make 5090 owners use frame gen
huh? HOW???
and make them think the 9800x3d and 64gb ram isn't enough
tbf a lot of those games are usually mostly gpu bound
fair
but gpus are a lot more expensive to upgrade
it's just annoying to me that
having to use frame gen with a top tier latest gpu to get decent perf while at max graphics and high res is mandatory
Me when I still have a 5700xt
Dlss isn't enough sometimes
displays have gotten great with oled, and we introduce ghosting
@fresh timber do I try lossless
it's just counter intiutive lmao
why even bother with all this tech when the end result ends up smeary
3080 was close in performance anyway for 699
Gpu shortage was rough
💀 💀 💀
2080 tis were mostly 1200 anyway

Ye 999 for the blower cards xD
outrageous
Maybe evga reference cards too
and now with the 90 class of cards 80 tier buyers feel like ITS NOT ENOUGH
But those weren’t that good anyway
Guy on FB was selling a rog strix 3060 for 500$
I could probably sell mine but I’ll keep it for now
What a idiot
they keep their value all because gpus stagnated so much

That’s good for games, older cards can stay more relevant
it just paints an image that having a 5 year old gpu is equal to a new and shiny midranger
too bad devs are completely blind to this
tech industry 
we're kinda at a point where progress slowed down to nearly a halt
MLID
so gpus just get fed with more and more vram
It’s hard to upgrade because everyone values their hardware differently as well.
There is never a lasting purchase for PCs
Has it not?
i dunno
when ppl stop being able to afford pcs ig
that's when it stops
but that's not gonna slow down
if pc is too expensive people will just move to consoles
Consoles are like a prison
And probably lower end cards will still end up beating them sooner or later
even if it locks ya in
yep
I mean a 4060 already is faster than a Ps5 so
It’s not that hard to get that performance level
if xbox pulls a complete sega they'll lose even more money because people are now coming back to consoles
lmfao
its like when people who sold their 2080ti during the crypto boom
J*b 🥀
I don’t get why though
The “expensive” hardware is not even close to console tier
And you can get the ps5 performance with like a 2070 or a 2060super
well thats because you still got games optimized for the systems, so it wouldn't be as painstakenly bad as setting it up on pc with various hardware
W or L
just pick up and play is what many consumers want
1080 ti is my most fav gpu
looks good
can we have 150 bucks competent gpus again (new)
But realistically no, you shouldn’t have to pay extra
I miss evga man :(
gaming was so cheap
I guess but the price has only gone down for that level of performance
Looks good
thats impossible
1080tis near me sell for 80$
Only the top end stuff is expensive
The FES
I think another reason why the PC market is so crippled is the fact that it's not niche anymore
even 200 is difficult lol
but if you set expectations low a 6600 gets you into any game
Guy on marketplace is selling a BRAND NEW NEVER USED 1080TI fe comes with box and everything for 350&
I can tell its never used
350 bad
Yea making normies into “pc gamers” was a mistake 
I know
😂
Hang on i ftg vathrok
absolutely
all these videos n such like "I bought this gpu to turn my cheap pc into a gaming pc" Or how to buy a gaming pc in 2025 type stuff
Hm
I mean there’s always build guides on yt but they definitely became more widespread
Most people probably go the prebuilt way though
well a part of me is a bit happy that people want to dive into pc gaming instead of staying confined in consoles but man, it has gotten worse
kek
Ye some people should just stay on console 
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thats why you see so many RTX 3060/4060 on steam hardware survey
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Don’t even get me started with “mouse and keyboard enthusiasts”
NgreedAi being NgreedAi
Probably bigger brainrot than techtok
Ngreedia will do whatever it takes to suck up $$$$$
without losing any profit
Tiktok probably made pc gaming more mainstream too
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sad but eh
idc about a 5060 anyway
just a nothingburger
They need to innovate in more ways besides some small architectural changes and a smaller node
They need to innovate like cpus
Soon will be steam #1 card
Thank you nvidia for making the masses upgrade once again
3060 with 12gb staring directly at it
Nah 1440p wouldnt be that good on that card
yeh
Unless you dlss swap every game
But thats the cope
Then you get the 5060 because its two gens newer bro
Then go down to 8
Doomed to 1080p forever
pay the same for less
Unless you play older games on linux
that's the nvidia way
But dlss swap on linux is finicky
Linux manages vram better which confirmed a suspicion i had when I switched earlier this year
I was like how am I using less vram on the same game rn
ultra textures Red dead at 1440p with other stuff open was using like 5.7 gigs
Thats total vram usage
Warframe uses like 3 gigs lmfao
So if you play older games you can cope with 8 gigs
But thats the thing, you buy a brand new card to play old games?

Thats a cope of its own really
Actually nah that can go both ways
Maybe you dont like new games because of how they are made so you stick with older games anyway (me)
I just play mostly older AAA games since most new releases don't interest me
Most new games I play are indie titles
I been playing the same games for years
Deep rock ror2 and warframe are the big 3 for me
Such as ?
I'm thinking of looking back into older games
If you haven't, play nier
I'm more of a casual gamer so I mainly play more story driven games, or puzzle games
The 2010 game?
More people need to play deep rock

I have that in my library but haven't even launched it

I like it even more because it runs faster than on windows
I am in love
Oh there is also doom and doom eternal
It runs faster no way
Doom 2016 is crazy because of how easy it is to run
I saw a snapdragon elite samsung running it on an emulator
I also saw a video of it running on an i3 2120 and a 750ti at high settings 768p
Averaging 60 fps
Basically microwave could run it
Is ror2 any good?
Thinking of grabbing the base game not sure abt the dlcs tho
A steam deck maxes it out somehow
Even eternal i think
Cable fiend 🥀
Atleast i have 2 power supplys now
One for backup oc
Which is the one im unfortunately using rn
@frigid stag
I wonder if it could do 1080p low
If the settings scale like that
Sketchy
One kylintech 600w(they on newegg dont mean its good tho) and a apevia atx pr600w
That psu cost more tha my gpu dod
The spevia one
Why do you want us to care
Wasnt posted for you
Who was it for
Do you actually have a 14900k
Yes
Rip
How?
Heating issues, wattage issues, price issues, performance not as high as amd
I dont have one, even if i did i dont carr lol
Intel is better than amd
14900KS is better than any cpu amd has released
Objectively no
7800x3d, 7950x3d, 9800x3d, 9900x3d, 9950x3d, in some games 5800x3d
Nah none of that is true
It’s like 120w while gaming
And costs 400
My 7800x3d is 30-40w while gaming
Sometimes less
My 9600x using 60w including soc power
It’s not 600 unless it’s the KS
Well it’s without power limits iirc
7800x3d is like 380 😭
This gives amd a run for its money
Only an 8 core after all
24 cores vs 8 which do u choose
Still better performance
Nah
Real
Npc
Ryzen 5070

On a cpu that can do 8000
Ima be buying something else for my pc if it stays absolutely
Available
Can show benchmarks of it winning by a large margin ~ just send me a 14900k and board and I’ll do the tests 
@sinful blade its real ryzen 5070
Real
Chat where could I hypothetically buy windows keys
Hey, my monitor screen keeps going black, and the monitor itself struggles to turn on and/or off when this happens. I have confirmed that this is a problem with the monitor itself and not my PC.
Hm
Any fixes, or is my monitor screwed
Maybe the cable is bad
Unplugging the power and plugging it back in let's it work for a few minutes, then it goes wonky again
Also, I'll see if I can test that
I mean, without unplugging it, it worked again
I may have to get a new monitor
But hopefully not
You would think this is good but thats with dlss 4, which these cards run better due to their increased ai perf
Welcome back 4060ti
4060ti+
lmao i know a lot of AIBs use the same shroud and even cooler a lot of the times across radeon/geforce when the mounting isn't wildly different. i wonder if they accidentally sent a batch of radeon shrouds to the geforce assembly line, and if so, how many made it past QA and into the wild
Whole lotta mumbo jumbo
@dusk knot can we ban this guy? He touch me unconsentially lol
Im about to go in dollar store
Will keep you guys updated
Warzone
Everytime you send that i read it as a nono word that i cant say here

bouch
unsave me
Hey, right now i dont have a gpu and I was wonder if was a good option to buy the rtx 5060. It's a good option?
No
why?
so what gpu is a good idea?
Rtx 5090
I know im messing with him
If you have the money get a 5070
Actually yes
5060ti is the same price as the rog strix 4060 back during the 40 series
so its a good idea to buy it tomorrow?
Sure
But the 5060to
How much is the 5060 is question
Last gen the 4060s were bad for the money
Oh my god
You guys arent gonna believe this
What do i do
I was starting to lik this girl turns out its a GUY!!!!
Oh my god
I dont know what to do
Please help m
Giys
Im truly in disbelief
THE HANDS THREW ME OFF
THEY ARE GIRL HANDS
ON A DUDE
bad performance bad price
Lol
Everyone knows 80% “e girls” on the internet are just dudes larping
Ye lot of things on the internet are fake
(like his 4090)
a real pcb alright
Just missing components
(the GPU and memory)
Its real
Yep
damn i would have guess like 15 lol
No
xd
just for that i'm dropping it to 14
😂
Im abt to say some things
Stop
Im just not believing this
Apparently you can turn off a PC by shorting a USB port. Did that on accident once.
You can do alot of things with usb
Some of which i cant say here
Actually I probably can
Dont think talking abt is is against rule
which is why most workplaces dont like it when employees plug their own usbs in
Not what i meant
If you did I would've straight up blocked you
💀
I haven't had my coffee
Are you really one of those people
Not sure what that means but ok
Its sending
Oldegg is back around
Ok you know what
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Problem solved
Dont day anuthint
Bruh
Security not doing their jobs?
Congeats u saved a billion dolar corp 10$
Oh well
Based
Its so long its down to my bose
Dude had new AirPods, what looked to be the new iPhone, and a Prada bag, he can afford some drinks
Alr
I guess it can slid
Stereotypical loser tbh
Status chaser
Shoplifter
No mind of their own
No ambitions
How
That must’ve taken a while
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I literally copied it off youtube
I know, and that’s what makes it so nefarious
What link
Oh my god bruh
Google snuck it in and I only found out because of a recommended post
Yeah when you copy links from the mobile YouTube app you gotta remove the =fhsuwvrjxusg
I dont get ot
Bruh
I can assure you, google already has everyone heres data
Safari is literally google on iphone
Literally
So it's like those AliExpress link
Ok so that means they should have more?
Yeah
Where it's sjeneofbejdnrjdnfnekxudnwkxnrmsnekejdnejwnfnekdnrkeoduenekdnekenfjejsjrj after the product link
They already have it all
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Ask Google
Giys
Ive got breakiny news
Cdkey?
Tlou
What did i say lol
50 dollars
Idk
Its 4K
400$ thooooo
Is rhe asus tuf a good monitor?
@dusk knot
Monitor food or no?
Thanks
Its not
Its asus tuf
Butttt
Its the cheapest one thats 4K
And its 165hz
🗿
1440p >>
There are better monitors I believe
165HZ
Check the reviews.
They are HORRIBLE
yea ima stay away from asus lol
Its 2/5 stars lol
so for some reason, the monitor hasnt been acting strange at all recently. Only when i play doom the dark ages
Then its just doom
the dark ages
sad sausage bbq white bread sammy?
We call it a snag
its like weaponized depression 
Nah it's peak food
Buns are expensive
4090 and 2560x1440?
Oh my fod

do it then click buy
stop looking then 
I wonder if it’s even a good display
Also it says it’s 165Hz in the title but in the description it says 180Hz
Its a walmart brand
Yea i know
Its 165hz
According to reddit
As long as its 1440p and 27” curved and has 2 hdmi and 1dp ill be fine
Dont care abt rfr too much
I game just fine on 75hz
Ima research it
Its 190$
i got a samsung g5 for 190 on black friday
and id trust samsung or lg over onn or hjhfbzxtui anyday
cursed
Do yourself a favor and save up for OLED 
A sus company
JP
I HAVE A AMAZING IDEA
BUY IT FOR ME
WIN WIN RIGHTTT
I hate asus
Have one of their boards
Refused to send me m.2 standoffs and screws
Im out of warranty
Samsung is ass
Why do people not see this
Its overpriced bs
It’s literally apple lol
Haha
I have a iphone X
My moms giving me her 14 pro max sometime this week
Excited af
The X camera us sooo badd
NgreedAI
Me: Trying everything I can do to clone a Home Assistant disk from an SD card to an SSD, which is apparently much more complicated than you'd originally think (honestly... you try it. idc lmao)
The button I needed but didn't know it existed: (circled in blue)
i get to this point sometimes, motor, where id rather just burn everything down and start fresh with whatever i am doing and prolly wouldve hit that point for me a long time ago with whatever your doing
why wouldnt you just clone the volume though
Finally
gpu prices are dropping

my build is almost done
just gotta buy 3 more parts and were done
Oof
And another one
Careful when you plug in the power connector if you’re getting a new gpu 
New NVIDIA GPU

im not kidding
the 9070xt went down 200 dollars in my local area
its like 100 bucks over msrp now


im gonna buy my motherboard from ibuypower since they have the cheapest price on it rn
with free shipping its like 320bucks
Actually newegg might be cheaper
they have the same deal and ibuypower just ran out of stock so


9800x3d back in stock 
futureproofing
I mean Zen 6 is soon i dont think future proofing is viable
Or one of the Radeon with the 12v cable
mm i love arbitrarily making things less reliable
time to finish off andor.
yeah but still less reliable than using the perfectly good PCIE 8/6 pin connectors
yes
i'd rather run a single 6 pin at 300w than a 12vhpwr at 600
I have never seen a radeon card with a 12v
The asrock taichi and the sapphire nitro
there are a handful of RDNA 4 ones
yah
And other models that have it that I missed
i thought there were more tbh
Also they use a different version of 12v
the sapphire one is so funny to me because they legit didn't modify the PCB at all except to run the 12vhpwr into what would have been a bunch of 8 pin input planes lol
which doesnt have a dinky version of it that nvidia uses
"yeah so we took the reference PCB, made it less reliable, and then called it our halo tier product"
if it's 12vhpwr then it's 12vhpwr. the spec is made by PCI SIG, not Nvidia
I am talking about the internals
the internals are 16 pins lol, there isn't much to change
it's 6 gnd pins, 6 12v pins, and four sense pins
same as nvidia
No i mean the power transfer its hard to explain :(
yknow how nvidia makes all the power go through those 2 little things
are you talking about load balancing?
Im pretty sure its more evenly spread out through the AMD cards also they use less power so its safer
I don’t think it is
nah, it all runs into a unified 12v input plane just like Nvidia
it's part of the PCI SIG spec
12v?
12vhpwer
Thsts 12 pins
they probably mean shunt resistors
Idk what those are just cable go boom
cable go boom
12v2x6 was better because it was able to load balance since PCI SIG didn't mandate a unified input plane
the EVGA 3090 ti had three separate pin clusters it balanced load across
It really depends on the cable, my corsair rm850x fits in pretty easy requires just slighly more force than a standard 8pin lol
i don't believe that CPU is a 14900k
Wow what da ya know it isnt.
My new board got shorted out and died
Saving for a new oke
rma it
Self inflicted damage
in what way?
Theyd know lol
Took out cpu and put back in with psu on(pc was off tho) and it fried the entire thing
PLUSSS
freaked out took out cpu and i dropped it on the pins
😂
tbh it was almost certainly recoverable until the last bit
how bad are the pins? i've been reasonably successful at repairing PGA and LGA pins in the past
He never had a 14900k
Shut up bruh
i think LGA1800 is a bit more dense than usual
World better without u
He had like a 4000 series cpu
Bro
oh is this like the 4090?
Its missing vram and a core
that's what i mean
tbh j would have killed for something like that when i was younger
my first PC was a haswell pentium g3420
i played VR on it... it was not fun
If you ignore vex whining like a baby in your ear it handles stuff perfectly fine
beyond my skills lol
Its dead
yeah
Yk those little caps behind the board thats for the cpu?
Yeaaa i knocked them all off haha
how...
I evem used the corner of the cpu
Took out my anger
Board still recieves power
No clue how
you went from something repairable to complete death
Well
The board was dead before i destoryed it
I can gurantee you that
It quit posting
Would do the litte lights
was that before or after you destroyed the pins
I think dram light like it usually does and then its go to white ligjt
Just randomly stopped
Didnt do anything after d ram lifhr
Berore
So i took out the cpu(psu was off)
Put it back in still nothing
Did it once more and forgot abt psu
And yea
Dead
we need to start you a gofundme dude. or get LTT on the case or something
0.88$ to my name haha
Start me a gofund me
I need 400$ for z790
32gb corsair vengeance ddr5 white
I3-14100F
if you start a gofundme and get some traction i'll donate you my 3090 ti and you can get nwrepair to frankenstein you together a 3090 ti on a 4090 pcb
Hmmmmmm
Dm me pics of it
it's dead but the core is almost certainly alive, mem probably but not guranteed (not majorly expensive to replace at least)
I was saying hmmm to to the gofund me lol
ik i replied to the wrong message
Nobody likes me and wont give me money IRL why would strangers on the internet give me money 😭😭😭
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Are 8GB GPUs really that bad in 2025? What about for 1080p? What about for 1440p with upscaling? What if you turn the settings down. Let's find out by pitting the 5060 Ti 8GB and 16GB head to head in eight of the biggest games released so far in 2025.
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changed my transmission fluid today and heard a loud pop noise when I downshifted. I hope it was just a clip for the skid plate breaking.
Money Shift is real.
It wasn't a money shift because the engine is fine and it was an intentional downshift
Nice nice
I guess if it ends up costing me money it could end up being a money shift
Yeah the loud pop is something worth to look for
U dont want to find out what is it while u in the road speeding

it didn't sound metalic so I think it's fine
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NgreedAI moment
You know something is wrong when Steve starts talking like Rossmann
havent seen the vid but does it talk about differences between 8gb and 16gig models
i wonder if i give my 3060ti more vram it would do better
I think the 5060TI 16GB is decent
if you can find it at a reasonable price
8GB is straight up a scam
I’m thinking about picking up a 5070 tbh just to try
I’ll have the return ready

Honestly I'm really starting to hate nvidia as a business
Ima buy it, try it and see if I like it
So basically……the 16gb 5060ti can get almost twice as many frames as the 8gb version in 1080p
first the "5090 performance" bullcrap, then the botched launch, then 12vhpwr and missing rops, now this
If I don’t like 5070 I can return it to Amazon
Nvidia could not possibly go any lower
I'm probably gonna stick with intel and radeon from this point on
until nvidia fixes up their act
I’d buy a msrp 9070xt
Msrp 5070







